RANT- Disappointing Live Albums (w/Martin Popoff & Chris Alo)

[@Footjones]

My god, Chris is hysterical and knowledgeable, Martin is a legend and Pete is why we are here. What a great conversation, a great trio! Cheers!

[@MrMshossain]

A power trio of music enthusiasts.

[@eric_in_florida]

@@MrMshossain their knowledge of bands and their releases is pretty amazing.

[@Footjones]

@@eric_in_florida It really is. I can't count how many times I've looked into their recommendations.

[@matthewnunley1775]

I agree with all of the above!

[@slammingsammy9617]

Pete. Martin. Chris P.M.C Perfect Music. ChaTT

[@craigkaminski]

Pardo...Alo...Popoff...this is the Clash of the Titans! What a great start to my week!

[@LuisGarcia-ee2tr]

Tremendous power trio. Full of insights. Great show !!!!

[@markrago7217]

All great music journalists. I'm not ALWAYS keen on Martin's opinion of certain albums, musicians, or songs, but those are opinions for you. He's still very educated, I just feel he occasionally has a higher opinion of certain material that feels to me like it is clearly inferior to other things he gives lukewarm reviews on. Regardless, he has gotten money and relatively famous for his opinion at times.

[@ellamcclanahan9811]

Yeah I like papof

[@janpoelkamp4229]

@Craig Kaminski: Pardo, Alo and Popoff... Put those 3 names back to back and you’re moving into Greek philosopher territory, hehe..

[@DonHornsby]

When you have Pete Pardo, Martin Popoff, and Chris Alo on a video together - you know it's going to be great. I love the Pete/Martin videos. But Chris adds an additional element that makes these collaborations unique. Thanks!

[@johnbenard9550]

Watching Pete's expressions while Martin is Ranting on Rainbow's On Stage is priceless.

[@berliner0]

Hell yes

[@Protometal66]

I usually agree with Martin but not with this one. I absolutely love Catch The Rainbow. Rainbow On Stage is a great album in my opinion

[@oneconsciousman1942]

Chris is something else. He hates the album so much he had to buy every format over the years. Now that is funny.

[@geruto17760]

Probably still hoping it would improve over time :-P

[@lahloonatic]

I think his collector ethic is second to none. And his sincerity.

[@davideckert2889]

Yeah and want's a live album to sound like your at the show but no extended jams?

[@ScottyKirk1]

@@davideckert2889 I love that (seemingly) hour long super-jam version of Wicked World. I borrowed a bunch of Sabbath LPs from my boss in college and that was one of them. Drank it all up as I was just getting into hard rock and metal.

[@Danimal77]

I've loved Rainbow on Stage since I first heard it! Ronnie had such an amazing voice back then and was able to improvise with his voice really well, so songs like Still I'm Sad are a goldmine for him to explore his range, of which he did!

[@flaviotp]

On Stage is one of the best live albums of all time. And Still I´m Sad is not instrumental there.

[@spaceace4387]

On stage is a good performance I just wish that more songs from Rising had been played

[@fuinrock8346]

Agree with Pete on Intensities in 10 Cities. Juvenile and silly. The part of Nugents career where he lost me. Probably the low point of the post Derek St. Holmes years.

[@sspbrazil]

Chris hates “Live At Last..” so much he bought it 5 times. Lol

[@chrismecklin1710]

"Why did Sharon put this out again", uh because you keep buying it.

[@slammingsammy9617]

Probably bought the shirt 5 Times LOL

[@sspbrazil]

C. Meck lol.

[@sspbrazil]

Slamming Sammy 😂😂😂

[@MichaelWH]

I like the album myself 🙂

[@abba96]

Great as always! Have You ever considered to display the album cover in the corner of the videoframe while discussing the album. This would be helpful since the display of the album often is short and easy to miss :-)

[@mikefoose9688]

Pete w/ theeee 2 best co-hosts!... more please!🤘🤘

[@alexandergilles8583]

Respectfully disagree about the jamming. I like the jamming/extended solos. That’s when you see the true creativity of the band. Plus it adds variety to the show, instead of being a carbon copy of studio songs. If it sounds and is played exactly like the studio version, then what makes the live version special?

[@bob3334444able]

Who could badmouth Allman Bros Live at the Fillmore right? It's what drew me to The Mars Volta as well.

[@urbangustafsson8067]

Agree, that is the purpose of to go to a concert

[@ndmich88]

Hear hear!!

[@Triton63]

I honestly think it brings to question his credibility on criticizing the greatest forms of music, Prog Rock, Hard Rock and especially Heavy Metal. Someone that has a problem listening to a John Bonham drum solo? Keep you opinion to yourself and go buy a Pop album.

[@RAPTRx-xm7zb]

I’m a little in the middle. I’m not a huge fan of extreme jamming, but I’m not a huge fan of carbon copies either. I like live albums that are somewhere in the middle.

[@fabrizioortu9105]

On Stage; Still I'm Sad has lyrics on this live album On Stage is a great live album. Catch The Rainbow is absolutely magic.

[@aaronlutz4436]

Yep, was gonna say

[@incarnate6779]

Yeah, I felt my blood pressure rise regarding his disparaging remarks about On Stage. Different strokes for different folks. I personally love On Stage. Always have. Always will. If there's ANY negative thing for me to say about On Stage is that it doesn't have Stargazer. But I've got a ton of bootlegs that have it so it's all good.

[@uhforja]

Though On Stage is definitely worse than Live in Germany 1976 which has 8 songs and clocks at 100 minutes (and it has Stargazer)

[@Dibbdroid]

Unfortunately one person on the panel has no appreciation of musicians who branch out beyond the studio song, he hates Made in Japan as well. In his book he barely mentions the album. Dismissing Catch the Rainbow, which has some amazing performances from Cozy, Ritchie and Ronnie and Mistreated has an amazing guitar solo, poor and conceited. What's not to like about musicians who can play, improvise, create?

[@spaceace4387]

Yes Still I’m sad was an instrumental on the debut album

[@davidg3019]

Chris is great, I hate this album, but i bought it 5 more times. Hope springs eternal.

[@Daniel-415-Ponce]

Brings to mind that old adage about the definition of insanity being doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

[@jazzpunk]

I'm not even that nutty... ;-)

[@tomgorman748]

Definition of insanity - buy the same dumb album 5x and expect it to get better LOL

[@ZMsoloman5000]

Kiss Alive 2, I feel like the only reason to own this is for the studio track ‘Rocket Ride’. Just not as good as the first Alive in my opinion.

[@gamleskalle1]

Blasphemy!!!!? Great record. Kiss alive 4 is worse, love 3.

[@independenceltd.]

I'll take II anyday. But it was my first Kiss album...

[@jerryattwooll4864]

I like ll, but don't think it's as good as the first album. Rocket Ride is certainly an awesome tune.

[@sdfgikbvcdfjy]

It's been a while since I tackled Alive II but I definitely felt the same way initially

[@charleswood123]

Great album. All of the studio tracks are solid also

[@lahloonatic]

I disagree completely with Popoff on his take on Rainbow live and instrumental music. Though, as a bassist, I wholeheartedly agree with his take on bass and drum solos. It’s a piss break, which I would take if it meant I didn’t have to pee my pants, so we don’t do them. Great show!

[@jerryattwooll4864]

This is like listening to 3 friends in the pub having a discussion, great stuff even if I don't agree with everything said here, but that's what makes it interesting. Always thought Live On Stage is a disappointing live album. The band plays well on it, but I agree with Martin, the song choices are puzzling at best. No Stargazer or Tarot Woman or Starstruck or Light In The Black.

[@brucefranklin6295]

Yeah,I was such a big Blackmore and Rainbow fan at the time,but was kind of disappointed with the song choices. Catch the Rainbow is nice and Blackmore does some nice soloing, but it wasted a whole side of a vinyl. Still I'm Sad has some good passages, but still that amount of time on vinyl could have been filled with some of the songs you mentioned.

[@elbib2446]

loved dio era rainbow,but yes i was too dissapointed with rainbow live on stage,starts of great with kill the king,then just sort of meanders,and i dont mind long extended jams,but not the ones on that album,when i first heard it,i thought it must be some hastily put together contractual thing

[@slammingsammy9617]

Blackboard has the biggest ego on earth narcissistic that’s his playpen Good for him

[@DamageCase91]

Try the Nürnberg & Düsseldorf ‘76 shows . . Or the Osaka ones. 1.5 to 2 hours and you get a lot more.

[@LuchaLibertaria]

Iron Maiden - A Real Dead One - It was released in October '93 after Bruce had already announced that he'd leave the band. It has poor production and the band is not at their best.

[@richdrums6886]

Agreed 1000%

[@gamleskalle1]

Thought of this. A real live one too.

[@davel7791]

I love that album. It sounds raw and vicious.

[@mikem.7921]

I agree a total flop

[@porkins74]

I like A Real Dead One. Its A Real LIVE One that is terrible. The 'rawness" that they were going for just does not work at all.

[@analogkid2869]

Pete - this is a legendary, perfect combo of guests - can this become a regular panel of Pardo, Popoff, and Alo ? This in my opinion, is your best combination of celebrity guests!

[@LuisGarcia-ee2tr]

Absolutely agree

[@jessevanblommestein9200]

I disagree! I love all his guests/ combinations (including him of course!!)

[@miguelbarahona6636]

IMHO: "On Stage" is tied with "Strangers In The Night" as the best live album ever! And I love "The Song Remains The Same" and "Speak Of The Devil".

[@greensombrero3641]

completely agree

[@MatthewClise]

I've always loved Exit Stage Left. When I got into Rush as an adolescent, it was basically a greatest hits comp of the bands most popular period. That being said, the arguments against it are completely valid. We need a remixed and expanded version so hard.

[@Geezer-yf8hv]

As a teenager, I was a huge Kiss fan! Their first “Alive!” album was iconic to me! “Alive 2”, was the last Kiss album I ever bought! It had many songs I loved, but I knew it was over for me. I had moved on EDIT: I DID buy Double Platinum! I got it because my early collection was on 8-tracks and self-destructed over time, and it did have most of the songs I did love at one time!

[@cleftturnip7774]

The long jamming sections are why I buy the live albums

[@19genesis70]

Rainbow on Stage and dp Made in Japan changed my Life..These are the two best live Records for me...

[@incarnate6779]

They are amazing albums.

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

MIJ is my fave live album of all time. Having said that, On Stage could have been so much better with shorter songs.

[@andrewmeyer3423]

Omg so funny. Chris and Martin are my favorite guests of yours, Pete. I had the same smile and laughter that you had during the whole video. Awesome!

[@johnmichaelwilliams6694]

One word for this show.....Magic. Great laughs and interesting choices and not everyone in agreement. Makes for fun viewing and many laugh out loud moments. So thanks to Chris, Martin and you too, Pete, for getting this Trinity together. Hope to see some additional shows with the three of you. Thanks again, guys!

[@jameshunter7303]

The thing with Dazed and Confused on TSRTS is the song is only used as a vehicle for Zep to incorporate a load of unrelated covers into their set - for example the lyrics to “if you’re going to san Francisco” is in there musically backed by something similar to what would eventually become Achilles Last Stand. Out of the 26 minutes I’d say only around half of it is taken up by something you’d recognise as Dazed and Confused found on LZ1. It works for me although it’s not something I’d listen to frequently for sure

[@harrymccandless5995]

This was great! You three make for an entertaining watch! Hope you guys come back together and do more.

[@commonman317]

"The Song Remains the Same" is Zeppelin live at that time. Per Jimmy Page, they were able to stretch some songs, be creative, and find new ground while having fun. Also, it was the 70s, and many bands had lengthy jam type songs. That's how it was back then.

[@gorancabrajic3240]

I love Rainbow on stage I only wish that there is more Rising songs I think the band is perfect and Ronnie was brilliant. On stage is a fantastic document of a greatness that Rainbow was with Dio. Song remains the same for me is a great album it was the album that made me love rock music.

[@gorancabrajic3240]

@Bace it's a shame it would be a perfect album

[@gorancabrajic3240]

@Bace stargazer is great on that album

[@benedictdonald4338]

Goran Cabrajic indeed, it’s a top ten all-time live album, IMO.

[@johnkatsoudas4767]

Add Stargazer, Tarot Woman, and A Light In The Black, and it would have been perfect.

[@cmiller6501]

The only problem with ''Catch The Rainbow'' from On Stage is it isn't long enough! Blackmore & Dio creating 15:35 of sonic bliss! ...While A Show Of Hands may not be the best live Rush album, it ends with a great version of Closer To The Heart.

[@GrahamS67]

For me the most disappointing live album was "Queen Live Magic". I was at the Wembley concert, and couldn't wait to get this live lp. When I got it I'm like "Where's the rest of it?!" A ridiculously truncated highlights package which sounded like it had been spliced by a three year old. They even cut out the operatic section of Bohemian rhapsody. Fortunately they did bring out the full version "Live at Wembley" later, although I still prefer "Live Killers".

[@adamsmashups4839]

I had the same reaction.

[@Barneyrubble241]

Yup. Love Live Killers. Probably my all time fav live album. Freddy Mercury was the man

[@GrahamS67]

@@poitor5915 Sorry are you being serious? All music videos are mimed. Their live videos most definitely are not.

[@jimtremblay5539]

Chris Alo is a natural treasure! Martin is my new favorite expert. Together they are gold!

[@deek49]

Pete Pardos laugh is infectious . Makes me laugh every time!

[@brandonbelt5055]

Sharon's intent was always to do a Sabbath covers album at that point because some publishing deal expired and they would cash in. That's at least per Rudy Sarzo in his excellent bio of the Ozzy years. Rhoades said he wouldn't do it and Ozzy slapped him across his face. Eventually they compromised that Rhoades would do the Sabbath covers album, a third studio album and then leave to become a solo artist.

[@jcollins1305]

Rhoads.

[@dtltmtgt]

My vote: come back guys and rant again. Great show!

[@johnw706]

Great discussion gentlemen . I'm usually not a big fan of the long stretched out live songs either . However , the live version of No Quarter on The Song Remains the Same is sensational . Otherwise , I generally like the songs to be more reigned in. I look forward to future videos from you.

[@mortimerbustos4487]

Chris, Ozzy wasn’t eating jelly. Those are raspberry preserves.

[@wernersteynberg4034]

Yes we would like to see this combo again 👍

[@wholelottarock5288]

Since I heard Martin Popoff saying he didn't like Made In Japan, I thought he was not the right guy to be commenting on live 70's albums. Made in Japan and The Song Remains the Same are all time favorites to me. And if he thinks not even How The West Was Won is great Zeppelin, I don't think he likes the band, although he wrote a book on them.

[@jamesrudd8705]

Those albums suck. Period. You have to be a delusional hardcore Fan to think otherwise.

[@patrikeriksson726]

Van Halen Live: Right here right now. How could such a fun band for the first few years get so boring.

[@mikem.7921]

The new stuff live was boring and had no fire whatsoever

[@alexandergilles8583]

I can’t believe we’ve never had an official live album from the classic Roth years. 78-84

[@mikem.7921]

@@alexandergilles8583 Dave was too drunk to give a fuck 😂

[@3sidesofeve711]

That whole thing was overdubbed in the studio so it's not live.

[@stevemcnary7963]

@@alexandergilles8583 They released a live album during their last tour but, unfortunately it was recent performances & not during the golden age of Roth.

[@michaelclements1862]

Pete and the two best co hosts. So informed .Great anecdotes and they keep me smiling.

[@ndmich88]

Thank you to Alo and Popoff for ranting about long jamming on albums that I haven’t found yet. Gives me more to listen to! I’m all about the jams lol.

[@SwanShadow]

Anytime Pardo, Popoff and Alo want to record a live album, I'm here for it! Love this lineup! Also, so glad you mentioned Eagles Live, Pete. I actually like the Eagles -- the Walsh-period material more than the earlier, countryish stuff -- and have enjoyed them live, but that album was, to quote the band themselves, "Wasted Time."

[@gavinsmith9016]

Really enjoyed this.What a great trio. Exit Stage Left would be on my list but for different reasons to Chris as I've never liked the mix/production on it. Show of Hands is worse. When originally released on LP I was dissapointed with Saxon's The Eagle Has Landed. I saw them at Hammersmith on that tour and they were fantatsic but that original LP release just did not convey what I experienced at the show; it was also the victim of a poor mix and missed key tracks but the remastered version is much much better. It's a similar Story for Sabbath's Live Evil, I much prefer Heaven and Hell's Live At Radio City (it's still Sabbath) or Live At Hammersmith that came with the deluxe Mob Rules. I would also add The Reunion album to that list of dissapointment. I've never got on with 'ACDC Live' too much either and they're my favourite band.

[@puddleglumsmusiccollection9151]

That Rainbow is awesome! You're suppose to jam live 😆

[@b2tall239]

Guns N' Roses "Live Era". The only album I actually threw out after listening to it. Literally.....I stared at it for a few seconds and then tossed it. Something tells me Martin had no problem finding 3 live albums he doesn't like :-) Unlike Martin and Chris, I look forward to listening to extended or alternate versions of songs that are often included on live albums.

[@kutnersuicide]

The only decent live they made was the fake live like a suicide (it's great despite being fake). They always kind of sucked live especially Axl voice got fucked up pretty early in their existence.

[@independenceltd.]

Can't believe I forgot that turd.

[@andrewdunn49ers]

Agreed. I'm die hard GnR and its awful. Axl overdubbed all the vocals too - after his voice had gone shot.

[@christopherconard2831]

The secret with extended or long jam versions is moderation. Adding a minute or two, that's okay. Even having a set couple songs that a band usually drops some solos in to works. But, as he pointed out in an earlier video, a six song set that lasts 90+ minutes, I can't take. I think a lot of it is based in 70's excess and prog pretentiousness. The Moody Blues, Yes, and Deep Purple (among others) were famous (or infamous if you don't like it) for going into long experimental pieces that just wouldn't end.

[@independenceltd.]

@@111highgh Chris Alo, is that you?

[@Zoey-K-1]

Another great show...I have to sort of agree with Martin on Stairway to Heaven. I liked it when I was younger, but now it’s on my list of songs I’ve heard so many times I never need to hear them again as long as I live. Pete, that’s a future topic!!

[@tdog5035]

I have a different view about Show of Hands. The first Rush album I bought. Had no idea who they were but the gatefold pictures were so cool. Opened my world to a whole range of interesting and varied music. It was a life changing record for me. The version of Marathon on the album remains my favourite version of any Rush song. Always skip Mystic rythms though.

[@richardpeiser4359]

Power Windows needs more love, man!.... Top to bottom, an incredible listen... What's your issue with Mystic Rhythms?... I think it's one of Rushs most adventurous songs.....

[@spaceace4387]

A Show Of Hands is a good performance, everything sounds solid it’s just that the song selection comes from what I think is a weak era for the band (80s pop era). But heck Witch Hunt sounds freaking amazing

[@WallerPictures]

Marathon is really good on that album.

[@troy78]

Me Pete Pardo, I rarely comment on anything but I must say this is a Classic Lineup! Pardo, Poppoff & Alo has such a great dynamic. Keep up the excellent work. Sea of Tranquility is hitting on all cylinders. Ps. You and your channel introduced me to the band Eloy, and I have gotten heavily into Prog rock because of it. More Prog episodes !!

[@brizzieleif5258]

Disagree with On Stage, the sound is amazing and I do like the long stretched out versions. Worst live albums for me: Rush - Exit Stage Left Black Sabbath - Live Evil Van Halen - Tokyo Dome, haven't heard the whole album but enough to to know it isn't great ( bad albums with great covers)

[@JosephFrancisBurton]

Brizzie Leif - the ONLY Rush album that I love is All the Worlds a Stage. The rest, including Exit Stage Left are so obsessed with reproducing the studio version that I find no point in listening to them.

[@rodcrispo5859]

Deep purple always did long jam songs live!

[@mikem.7921]

I actually loved the tokyo show because it was 100 percent live

[@thorstenkehde3453]

I totally agree with Live Evil. When you here the Hammersmith gig, you know how the album should have sounded!

[@rocky-o]

great video...i love these discussion groups...excellent choices...although i do have to admit, i loved rainbow on stage for one reason alone...ronnie james dio...to hear him sing mistreated was the biggest treat to me on that album...and yea, there were alot of great rainbow tracks that could have been there (i'm looking at you stargazer) but i could always hear ronnie sing that on rising...this was a once in a lifetime shot captured...anyway...thanks again...peace...

[@lonegroover]

As soon as I saw the title, the words Exit Stage Left appeared in my head.

[@paulstancartneynumbe]

Hey guys loving these rant videos! You guys should consider doing one about songs with great choruses but terrible verses. I’ll be watching regardless!

[@GGfrerer]

Wow, you guys are killing me here. I LOVE A Show of Hands by Rush and also love Priest...live! (also love the cover art, yes!). A Show of Hands made me a Rush Fan for life, I heard the songs on the album there for the first time. Same thing with Priest...live! which was my first Priest album and made me actually a real Heavy Metal fan. So I will love these 2 albums forever!

[@richardpeiser4359]

I couldn't agree with you more!..... A Show Of Hands is filled with outstanding performances(Territories is incredible) and represents my favorite time frame of Rushs incredible career(Permanent Waves through Power Windows that be)....

[@scottricci5063]

Unleashed In The East was my intro to Priest and 2112 (tho not a live album) was my intro to Rush. So, knowing this, you can see why Priest...Live! and A Show Of Hands seem anti-climatic to those of us who knew these bands in their creative prime. 🤘

[@drummusicinc4027]

Great show... love Chris and Martin both. Good idea, Pete mixing them on the same show. Interesting how, Pete, a guitarist, loves the jammy stuff, improvisation jams, lengthy solos, and Chris and Martin, I’m guessing they don’t play instruments, they hate it. As a drummer, 40 years and counting I love Song remains the same and similar albums.

[@jakobsprogworld]

Great video idea, I love the team of you three discussing. Great stuff as always!

[@garyjoyce2160]

Damn- I wish in the 1970s when i was growing up- I had access to you 3 guys( I’m not leaving the house). 💯 = AWESOME fun cheerful and super SUPER knowledgeable! Love Chris “ summary and humor: I ve been known to word and see things just like him. I’m in total agreement with him. I despise long long jams! A+ SHOW!!!!

[@profesorblancocienciassoci8873]

As a fan of Rush since 1980, I agree with Chris: Exit... is not a good live album. The presentation it s also very poor. 3 photos and that is. The sound is obscure and once i discovered the video, with other songs like Limelight, wel... In december of 83 i flew to Rio de Janeiro,and i bought both Live evil and Holy diver, and my friends in Argentina worshiped me (you have to understand how the LP market worked in those days in Argentina to understand this, but I was big with those albums), and i loved Live Evil. Still do, even with that horrible one song in to sides thing...

[@claytonchaney9171]

Funny ..when I saw this topic, "Exit Stage Left" was the first to come to mind and I am a huge Rush fan...even the "synth" albums...as a pro keyboard player. those 80.s albums were very influential.....I know a lot of old guitar players who are reconsidering this period....Alex was using alternate tunings and doing creative unorthodox things....a good chunk of their live show always featured these songs....

[@michaelsalisbury1477]

I still daubthat Rush is a poor mans Yes!!!!?

[@davidmel2158]

How in the world can you not be taken by the live version of CATCH THE RAINBOW? As a musician & a huge Rainbow fan, it’s one of my favorites. Has deep meaning in my life.

[@williamgeorgefraser]

My rant comes down to a minor detail in an amazing concert. The Cream reunion in 2005 is all I could ever hope for but WHY did Clapton not use the wah-wah pedal on "White Room"? I bought the DVD for that and "Badge" and he let me down. I still love Cream and the video. RIP Jack and Ginger. The other live album with which I have a problem is Hawkwind's "Space Ritual Live". The album contains recordings from Liverpool and Brixton. The version of "Master of the Universe" that they played in Edinburgh was far better than the version that is on the album. It was also there that I interviewed Lemmy for my uni radio station. We drank a bottle of wine together and I met Stacia. Wow!

[@vincenzonapoles4371]

I was pissed he played a strat.

[@peterm.fitzpatrick7735]

I generally don't like live albums too much, but I remember seeing some really great guitar players pull off some amazing performances during concerts. I don't mind if they take the theme into new places, if they have talent and inventive energy to make it exciting.

[@kylebuschfan100]

I love these kind of videos and I think the three of you are awesome together! I hope you will keep doing these kind of videos

[@sadekx5251]

Chris "I hate this album but I have 5 copies" Alo 😆

[@ronbo11]

Yeah, he's a glutton for punishment I suppose.

[@jhar26]

Makes you wonder how many copies he has of the albums he loves. :)

[@raymondwarmke7094]

Cmon Chris for someone who hates the album why the hell do you have 5 copies . That's stupid

[@thewurm9177]

I'm a bit surprised that no one mentioned how horribly processed and artificial Ozzy's vocals sound on Speak Of The Devil

[@Dehumanizer3000]

I agree, its not a good live album, alot of studio would on it, tribute is a better live album

[@capnzilog]

"Speak of the Devil" reinvented early Sabbath for me; those early recordings were just too primitive sounding for me to give them the time of the day.

[@Dehumanizer3000]

@@capnzilog oh thats a good way to look at it, yea like a different perspective to the song, I do that myself but with Black Sabbath bootlegs, Ian Gillan does the Ozzy stuff great, he sounds evil, and Tony Martin/Dio give the songs a fresh take

[@bob3334444able]

Yes! Like he's singing in a campbell's soup can

[@slammingsammy9617]

It’s live at the Ritz in New York it’s horrible sounding It sucks.

[@j.j.4150]

Martin must love The Mule on Made In Japan😂.

[@j.j.4150]

@@jaspergillgannon4991 Yeah, but The Mule has that spicy 6+ minute Drum Solo lol.

[@GBCR]

Happy birthday LEONARD COHEN today Sept 21st... (I wanted to put his comment on the Kerslake obituary, but am too lazy to look for it now).

[@kevindudley9617]

This was the best rant video yet! Keep them coming!

[@cbciosubs]

Agree on Intensities in 10 cities, awful. Do love Show of Hands , but, agree a couple big omissions on Stage Left. Last few live albums basically just included enough discs to capture pretty much everything they played!!

[@eastbayrocker1]

The Grateful Dead: Steal your Face......uggg! I was majorly bummed when this hit the racks after “Europe ‘72!” Thank God the Dead went back into their Vault series to release more of their ‘72 tour- awesome gems for all those deadheads from way back when! Cheers!

[@spaghetti.lee-69]

Your Right John. As A Long time Dead Tape & CD Collector, Steal Your Face is just Bad.. Poor Production..Stick with the Dicks Picks & Daves Picks Series..Awesome Recordings

[@ykmgeedee]

SYF was one of those "we owe the record company" obligations. While most of the material off the Winterland farewell shows are good, yeah after those first 3 live ones this comes up short.

[@jydymyyyr9630]

Not sure if the discussion provides helpful information but it is entertaining. Thanks for the laugh this morning:-). I have seen the Eagles live (during the Hell Freezes tour) and they sounded great... can't say what they sounded like in the 70s and 80s.

[@amadeoeichberg1765]

Aerosmith Bootleg Live features sloppy performances, sonic unevenness and not enough deep cuts. Live album during this band's peak should have been so much better.

[@Nick-qf7vt]

I suppose it's understandable that they sound sloppy, as they were constantly strung out on hard drugs.

[@spaghetti.lee-69]

Good Point!!!

[@michaelriffee4526]

Live Bootleg is my all time favorite live album. I love the rawness of it. Most live albums sound watered down with overdubs

[@Hawk999]

I bought ‘Bootleg live’ the day it was released. And I always liked it. I could finally hear Aerosmith live. Sure it’s a bit raw around the edges, but I have no problem with that. I enjoy it to this day.

[@MichaelWH]

I think it's great lol...to each their own 🙂

[@gillesthibault429]

When it came out on CD, "Exit...Stage Left" was cut to fit on a single CD (that was then limited to about 60 minutes, not the 78 minutes the CD Standard became later)

[@iansouthcote-want1606]

Glad Pete is here to talk some sense, don't know how you can claim to be a rock fan but "hate that jamming stuff" and complain about people doing solos. I can see it getting old if it goes on forever but that's where the creativity can really shine.

[@thomasgellhaus306]

@@jamespaul8058 Chris and Martin aren't "noobs", but I do want to ask Martin why he hates most live albums so much. The whole POINT of a live album is to, i don't know, play songs longer, or differently. If I don't want a "jam" version of a song, well that's the studio album version. Makes me wonder how much of a Deadhead Martin is or isn't!

[@alexandergilles8583]

Thomas Gellhaus I agree. I wouldn’t call them noobs, but it’s a curious opinion to me. I’ve never understood why people don’t like jamming/extended solos. That’s when you see the true creativity of the band. Plus it adds variety to the show, instead of being a carbon copy of studio songs. If it sounds and is played exactly like the studio version, then what makes the live version special?

[@masheanhed]

Maybe they should just stick with the studio albums if they dont like the extras.

[@alexandergilles8583]

dan cussin I agree. Like I said in my comment, if the live version is just a carbon copy of the studio song, played exactly the same with no variation or extra stuff, what makes the live version special?

[@jazzpunk]

@@alexandergilles8583 I am with you. Although...I have a couple of friends that want cd-quality & 'just like the record' when they go to a concert. They're frustrating, to say the least.

[@devindungan4081]

Great video!!! Definitely want to see this group again!!! One of the more disappointing live albums for me and even though I do like it is KISS Alive III. The problems I have with it are the production is way too polished with the high-hats being way too in your face, the setlist includes stuff from the previous two live albums and my final gripe is that it should have been done in the 80s with Eric Carr. It does have great performances all throughout but all in all it seems basically like a glorified greatest hits album with audience noise attached to each song.

[@troglodrew]

Caught in the Act by Styx, Rattle & Hum by U2, A Show of Hands by Rush

[@sspbrazil]

troglodrew as we used to call it back in the day, U2 “Prattle and Drone”.

[@davel7791]

I like Caught in the Act because it's the only live album of Styx up to 1983.

[@kevinthetruckdriver353]

@@davel7791 - The video concert version of *Caught Live in the Act* was worst than the album. They did a mini play of Kilroy. That mini play ripped the heart out of Styx. Return to Paradise should of been their first live album. Much much better.

[@davel7791]

@@kevinthetruckdriver353 Return to Paradise CD and DVD are incredible. I saw them on that tour. Could have died happy that night seeing my first rock heroes reunited (minus John). They still sound good on Caught in the Act, though, in my opinion.

[@waedi73]

Great show ! The louder you play it, the better it sounds ! This is the Magic of Priest live ! And why it is for me one of the greatest metal discs ! The intro moves you out of the sofa in front of the stage and blow you away ! I agree to Martin that some tracks are unliked today but I keep that album as a holy grail ! 🚀🌍👍🏼

[@richdrums6886]

I LOVE those Rush albums - ESL is my ALL-Time fave - BUT - I totally understand where Chris comes from. Hoping for the Moving Pictures 40th Anniversary to make up all what's missing

[@glmglm5480]

Agreed. One of my fav live albums but I get his reasoning. But its full of simply the best version of those songs

[@chriscookguitar6816]

Great video. Great points on all your choices. I disagree on Speak of the Devil but you have a valid argument for your frustrations. Looking forward to more conversations!

[@747jono]

I love you guys so honest. I ordered 3 of Martins books today

[@monsieurdupraz8579]

As Martin Popoff said in the "Bands With Bad Album Covers, Part 4" rant about making a positive show after a negative show, how about a "Bands who released a fantastic live album at the peak of their career : great live + perfect timing ? And many thanks Pete for all you do : greetings from France.

[@knightvisioniixv]

Absolute blast. Alo's comments on Rush's A Show of Hands had me f***ing dying!!! Pete's face during Popoff's commentary on the Rainbow album was PRICELESS. Alo's "garbage" comment was icing on the cake. The Song Remains The Same was ridiculously overblown. Borderline embarrassing. And to make matters worse, those performances did not feature Zeppelin at their best, but, for the most part, I still like the album and the film.

[@johnludmon7419]

Song remains the same if they had kept the songs near to the original length it would have been better. Moby dick was a sign of the times drum solos were the rage even though they were awful. Dazed and confused is one of my favourite tracks on the original album but on the song remains the same it is the sound of a band disappearing up it’s own bottom. I have to admit though that I tend to avoid live albums as they are often pretty poor imitations of the concert experience along with some pretty average production especially on seventies albums.

[@knightvisioniixv]

@@johnludmon7419 With few exceptions, I'm generally not the biggest fan of live albums. Never have been, and as a result, I don't own very many. Like you, I think live music is better seen, whether that be at home on a DVD, or, even better, at an actual concert. I loved TSRTS film back when I first saw it. Spotted the original soundtrack CD in a flea market for cheap, so I picked it up. Now, years later, I see those Zeppelin performances as hit and miss. The 27-minute Dazed and Confused, in particular, comes off as the most drawn-out and ridiculous of the bunch. But, as mentioned, it's a bit better to see the accompanying visuals in the film during that performance. Even with that, I still can't sit through the entirety of it without cringing a bit, if truth be told. What seemed mystical then, now seems corny. And yet, I still like it enough to return to it every now and then...

[@keefmack]

I actually really love Rainbow On Stage and the jams. Cozy Powell's dynamics are superb on that record and it sounds like you are really there

[@garyjoyce2160]

Chris quote on VENOM - somebody played the VHS in @ school gymnasium .... LMAO 😂

[@gatorguyblue]

Chris said Venom members arent good musicians....so why would you be a fan? ive never heard anything by them but if a group arent good musicians, i'm out

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

@@gatorguyblue If that's the Venom who did Black Metal, I love 'em...!

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

@@gatorguyblue Bad musicians can still write compelling songs!

[@lahloonatic]

@@gatorguyblue The Sex Pistols? musicianship is not connected to popularity. Have you seen the charts? I have never heard Venom, but now I sort of have to...

[@johnnyjohansson1736]

In my opinion listening to Venom is a waste of time. They are really bad, it was the image and hype around Black Metal that made them big. Mercyful Faith was far better, but that, again, is my opinion.

[@brucefranklin6295]

I'm with Pete on Speak of the Devil.Haven't heard it since the 80's and as a huge Sabbath fan,hearing a rhythm section play stiff without the Sabbath swing and a guitarist take all the soul out of the songs and solos was too much for me. I can understand some people who aren't diehard Sabbath fans liking it.Especially people who were Ozzy fans,but not necessarily Sabbath fans.

[@andywitch666]

Trouble rules!..!

[@Jackylone-]

Love the 29 minute version of Dazed and Confused! Loved the flick and still love the soundtrack....but thats me. I love most long jams....Made In Japan is the best live album of all time!

[@dancalmpeaceful3903]

Love that album....the version of D&C is perhaps one of the best (and I have a LOT of bootlegs) short of what they do at Earl's Court. I think Earl's is just a bit longer...

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

I agree with everything Alo said about Exit...Stage Left, my other issue with that Rush live album is the mix of the bass, this has always been the problem for me going back to the original vinyl, it sounds too loud and snarly but when the remastered CD came out, I was really hoping that issue would be fixed but it sounded worse than the original. I'm a huge fan of Rush but I'm not fan of that live album for the reasons I mentioned and mostly for what Alo said. Great rant with you three gentlemen and looking forward to seeing you guys do more of these in the future, it was a lot of fun.

[@mmk7340]

Hall of Fame quality show guys. The 3 of you together was priceless. 👍

[@rayhollingshad3580]

Chris should have his own rant channel! Great show guys! Hilarious!

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

Well I happen to love The Song Remains The Same. For me it contains definitive versions of Dazed And Confused and No Quarter.

[@stuarthecht8196]

I love that album!!!

[@yrlic]

Which version, though? I got used to the original release, then got the remastered one with additional tracks but was shocked by the poor edits.

[@ChromeDestiny]

Disc two of Zeppelin's BBC Sessions is my favorite official Zeppelin release. I don't mind jamming on live albums but I like it to be good and I like it to not go on for ages and ages. For me that 1971 Paris Theater show on the BBC releases delivers on that front.

[@mrheem44]

yeah that album just blew me away last time I heard it

[@seinfeld8812]

Great album

[@phillipanderson7398]

Martin, BOC's second live album wasn't Extraterestial Live, It was Some Enchanted Evening.

[@dferris7767]

This was a fun rant. I bought Rainbow on Stage on a used LP back in the 80's when I was in college. At the time, I was a big fan of Cozy Powell and I was taking in everything that Cozy played on. So, when I first heard it, I was entranced in the whole thing. I loved it at first listen. But, as time goes by, I find it harder to listen to. I agree the 26 minute version of "Dazed and Confused" is an overkill. I still find it hard to listen (and watch) the Song Remains the Same in its entirety. For recent (past 10 years) for disappointing live albums, I would include the Van Halen - Live in Tokyo album. For die-hard fans who had wished for a live album with DLR, this was such a huge disappointment.

[@lahloonatic]

I thought Who’s Last was no good compared to Live at Leeds

[@drummer78]

Luis Nasser To say the least

[@ChromeDestiny]

Who's Last is a sad story. The original idea was to put out a live anthology with some live stuff with Moon, some stuff from the '79 tour when Kenney Jones was playing better and only a bit of stuff from the '82 tour but The Who's label insisted on all '82 tour recordings and pretty much only the most popular Who songs and no real emphasis on deep cuts.

[@drummer78]

ChromeDestiny I always felt Kenney just lost his heart on the 1982 Tour because Daltrey had been on his case and literally called a band meeting to address Kenney’s status in the band. On top of that, Pete had basically checked out and said it would be his last tour with the band (which probably enabled promoters to give it the ever profitable “farewell tour” billing). Kenney played great onstage in my opinion from 1979-1981. 1982 though was a weird tour...they all seemed to be going through the motions, although there were some great moments.

[@ChromeDestiny]

@@drummer78 I agree that the '82 tour had the odd good moment. There's some videos circulating of shows from that tour. Seattle '82 has a few highlights imo and Florida '82 is actually a pretty great show.

[@drummer78]

ChromeDestiny KZbin has definitely shown some examples of their good nights on that tour. At least with 82, they were still essentially just a 4 piece (with keys)...better than 89 in that regard. Still, there was something “thin” about their sound compared to the earlier Kenney tours of 79-81. Maybe it was Pete’s guitar amp set up.

[@jroquendo8680]

Don't complain about long live version until you went to a iron butterfly show and hear In a gadda da vida live in the Seventies. You can make festival for 3 days just playing it.

[@dr.phibesinred6066]

Just make sure you don't run out of drugs.

[@lonegroover]

Saw the Eagles live in '95 - they were really good, and the crowd (Wembley Stadium) loved it.

[@thomasmarthinussen8978]

Yeah, they were good right? Martin or was it Chris, saying The Eagles probably were the worst live band ever, I mean, come on he can't be serious! They were consumate musicians, amazing singers and one of the finest harmony bands in history. Agreeably, their 1980 live album is a bit on the safe side, never really going out of the comfort zone, but I love their earlier, country laden material. They were just an amazing live and studio band, and STILL going strong! I love Glenn Frey and he's sorely missed but Vince Gill, you really couldn't get a better guy than him to take over where Glenn left! Just an awesome singer/songwriter and he has so much passion for The Eagles music, I mean it's his favourite band of all time, being a contemporary with The Eagles in the late 70s, albeit on a lower commercial scale, with Pure Prairie League. Don't even joke about The Eagles being the worst live band, it's not even funny, you know what Im sayin!?

[@alanmilne9359]

@@thomasmarthinussen8978 I used to love the Eagles but had heard that their live peformances were boring and when the live album came out , I had to agree. When I finally saw them live it just underlined the lack of inspiration I got from it . Hardly ever listen to any of their live catalogue. Rather try You Can't argue With a Sick Mind by Joe Walsh.

[@jamesrudd8705]

The Eagles were always very boring live. Boring. Just fucking boring. Did they sound good? Absolutely. But man, I saw them twice ('77 and '80), and an hour into each show I was waiting for the concert to end. Fucking boring.

[@pvdguitars2951]

1. When Chris is on the show, it is guaranteed to be fun; 2. Martin was spot on for each of his picks, couldn’t agree more; 3. Before the show even started, my immediate pick were : live at last, the song remains the same, Priest live, rainbow on stage, Uriah Heep Live. 4 out of 5 got picked!

[@myleswoods8544]

While I very much respect your guests views(and sub to one) Im of the opinion that concerts are ,and should be a differant animal to the lp/cd/etc versions.Ive always looked forward to having a unique expieriance at a concert.Ive more than not already bought the lp.Just my op.As for solos love Richies ,but I get those who dont like double digit songs.Great vid as usual Pete!

[@hellojimmypage]

Absolutely, on that matter I believe Purple/Rainbow deserve bigger respect and credit than Zep as their jammimg consisted strictly on their own creativity and work, while Page and co. often put together a bunch of blues covers, one after another, on those long jams - see Whole Lotta Love from How the west was won.

[@powrnap]

I had a similar timeline to Pete. I was a huge Sabbath and Ozzy fan. My first concert was Ozzy w/Randy at Nassau Coliseum in ‘81. The year before I had almost (like horseshoes & hand grenades) convinced my older brother to take me to see the Black & Blue tour at MSG, as we had been huge Blue Oyster Cult fans since childhood. So I was uniformly disappointed by 1) Speak of the Devil (an obvious money grab), 2 Live Evil (I really dislike Dio growling through Ozzy material), and 3) Extra Terrestrial Live (the departure of Albert Bouchard and the inferior versions of songs found on better BOC live albums signaled the beginning of the end of their glory years).

[@sspbrazil]

The majority of Nugent’s lyrics are juvenile Pete. Lol.

[@Nick-qf7vt]

As a Nugent fan, I completely agree. But Insensities In 10 Cities took it to another level entirely, and in many instances way too far.

[@sspbrazil]

Nick Jones lol.

[@kirkwoerner1107]

I always found his lyrics as insightful glimpses into the hidden dilemmas of the human condition.

[@sspbrazil]

Kirk Woerner hahahaha

[@bob3334444able]

new level: "My love is like a tire iron"

[@David-wo9un]

Excellent; love when all three of you get together and give your perspectives.