In the Shadow of Nessmuk Part 3

[@nickp.2432]

Nothing but respect for this man. So damn knowledgeable, fact that he has been giving it away for free for years is priceless..

[@mrwes100]

Nessmuck was a pretty small guy, barely over 100 lbs. I think he understood the relationship between body weight and pack weight.

[@skipper9400]

I used an Exped pad for many years Dave, and was very well satisfied with the performance...if I remember right, it was a 3" pad with insulation that deployed when it was inflated, and I think it had a R-value of 7.......very comfortable, and never was cold again......that thing was ABSOLUTELY reliable....used it for 6-8 years and then passed it on to my Grandson, who is STILL using it 10 years later......(I'm now 76, and still doing day trips only), it really was tougher than whale Poop, heavier than the litest, but MUCH better.......thanks for the series man...keep up the great work.....OnWard.....

[@19ghost73]

As an active lightweight bushcrafter I see with joy that You explore that route somewhat, too. A super successful, multi-day & unsupported solo trip through the untamed Carpathian mountains in Ukraine in springtime, with temps down to freezing, proved that my system works for me & my style. I got rid of most packages (like the one for your ground pad or the one for your cook set). My groundpad is a thin but durable plastic foil (super lightweight), and from TYVEK I made a large breathable bivouc bag ("bivy bag"). My T-A-R xtherm pad is the shortest version that exists, as I'm abt. as short as You AND my feet rest on my backpack (Granite Gear Virga 2, reduced in weight as much as possible by trimming off unnecessary stuff). A good down quilt is my favorite and it is warm & light. My REFLECTIX DIY pot cozy with large lid is shaped like a container and eliminates the need for a pouch for the cook set. I don't go the CUBEN/DYNEEMA route for a tarp (too expensive for me), but the way of very lightweight & durable spinnacker fabric. A real knife (fixed blade) helps in creating camp implements and is worth its weight in gold. Buying good but used/2nd hand items helps to bring the cost of equipment/gear down. Bottom line: Joy & comfort in nature with few & lightweight but good gear is no contradiction! ATB, Gereon

[@robertweldon7909]

Some times you have to use what you have on hand (my situation), therefore you have to determine what is necessary, not by weight, but by essential need. I have perfectly good stuff that I got in the 1970's, so now I have to figure out how to transport stuff that is just a bit heavy, by today's standard, or reduce the stuff I carry, or both. Not an easy task. Super light stuff is expensive too, The best approach is "The more you know he less you carry, do more with less, and have multi uses for any item". Your original approach from the Dual Survival days, which is still good thinking.

[@bobhope5773]

Another interesting video David. Nessmuk (George Washington Sears) would love the kit available us these days!

[@StoneE4]

Hammock Gear sells an economy version of their quilts for almost $100 cheaper than their premium quilts. The economy quilts use duck down rather than goose and the fabric used is slightly heavier than that of the premium quilts (but that's getting way too far into gram weenie territory for me). I just purchased a set of their economy quilts a few months ago and I've never been so happy with the performance, lightweight nature, packability, and cost of camping gear. My sleeping bag has been officially retired to the back of the closet as loaner gear for friends.

[@allennundel6532]

I have watched many of your videos over time from 2009 to 2019. I do like all of them and learned many things. I like this series as you seem to embrace the light hiker mentality. I have backpacked many, many times since the early 70's. in the mid 80's I backpacked with much less gear in the Sierra (no tent, no stove, minimal sleeping bag and was able to keep the pack 18 to 20 lbs. Much more enjoyable hiking!

[@shanemccauley8354]

Thank you for going through with promised videos. So many people promise video series that they are going to put out for us and before long they aren’t even on KZbin anymore. Two guys that started at the pathfinder school put out videos like mad for a while piggybacking your videos promised segments on nessmuk and never came through and now neither one even put out videos now. So thank you again for coming through your word is golden.

[@michaellong3598]

Thanks again ! Dave ! you Rock ! OLD Man ! thanks for sharing

[@johneckert1690]

Dave. Your rambling is educational so you go on and ramble all you like and I will listen and learn from every word after all "the more you know the less you need to carry" I will be 62 years young in about 2 weeks and I don't mind getting older as long as I gain knowledge and have the wisdom to use that knowledge. I look forward to the next video in this series. Take care and bless you sir.

[@Eric-gi9kg]

No ever knowing what an Over quilt was...now I do. It makes good sense to have a under and over quilt, in place of the sleeping bag for 3 seasons. Though I would definitely have a bag for winter up here in the Pacific Northwest. Learning a lot about reduction.. Loving this series.

[@dez410]

Great info! I'm enjoying the series, man!! And appreciate it! I've camped out on my trap line a few times in single digit temps in a tent on the snow, I use the Klymit Static V air mattress with an R value of 4.4. I supplemented that with another cheap closed cell foam mattress and the only thing I couldn't keep warm was my nose. I cant figure that part out yet. Can't breath in my sleeping bag because of condensation, yet I can't keep my nose out or else it will freeze off! lol My sleeping bag was the military modular sleep system that can go down to -50...However, I've got to get rid of that set up, it's very heavy. I think the bags are 5 pounds together or something like that.

[@cmliphone]

I'm really enjoying this series. It's great that you're still searching for new ways to do things. You're still excited to learn and that's a real inspiration and lesson. Dirt time never ends.

[@davidvance3527]

Great series. Your doing what I did years ago and still do. I studied backpackers equipment for motorcycle travel. Bikers and hikers have the same concerns, weight and space.

[@shadomane]

An excellent video Dave, very informative and to the point. As always thanks for taking the time to research this stuff and sharing/presenting your findings with us. I'm enjoying following this series and continue to look forward to the next one.

[@glenharrison123]

Wise words Dave. I'm really enjoying this Nessmuk series. Most of the time camping here in the South Island of New Zealand a bug net is required also. We have a great system of huts on most trails here which means it's possible to carry less gear if using those facilities.

[@BruceNitroxpro]

You are able to do so much work, knowledgeably, that others just couldn't do. Thank you for doing what we all NEED, not just what you want.

[@greenwoodsbushhogging6704]

You need to plan a canoe trip. I'd love to see what you'd bring with you for a X day long trip. Give me a different look at gear from a like minded woodsman.

[@therealbigfoot3076]

Microwave, hot pockets, the fridge.. 12 pack of Pepsi, and wife to cook and gather fire wood

[@herbertwerner2287]

I really liked how you explain the possible need for lighter gear or heavier gear. To save a pound or two makes room for other things. As you said David a gallon of water is 8 pounds, everything a person needs to pack adds weight and how much weight depends on the gear chosen for the pack. Nice to have a great teacher show us first hand, and as always a great video treat.

[@jojobrimhall5161]

One of my favorite sleeping methods is a helikon Tex swagman made into a sleeping bag and a surplus goretex bivy sack. That knocks out my sleep system as well as shelter. I’ve slept THROUGH a rainstorm and only woke up to help guys resecure their poncho shelters. I set up under a tree so I’m sure that helped a bit. But this combo is worth considering. Both are kinda big when rolled up but they save the space of a tent or hammock without adding weight

[@shanedavis4309]

Enjoying this series immensely Dave. Keep up the good work.

[@johnlord8337]

Sleep system: Time for Shawn's (and Black Hat's) two HD black 50 gallon garbage bags (minimal ounces) as footprint. Easily fill with leaves for a huge (full body length) 8-10 inch deep duff mattress and quality R- and air-value insulation. Use the 16 ounce Thermarest blow up mattress atop the duff mattress (or not !). The quilt is a perfect item. This sleep system would then be (3 or) 4 items of (1) minimal ounces of 2 HD garbage bags, (2) 16 ounce Thermarest (or not !), and (3) 29 ounce down quilt = ~ (2-) 3 pounds for 3 season use. Could even consider carrying 2 more HD garbage bags for a lower and upper (weather, wind, and rainproof) garbage bag bivvy sack for the quilt - and dramatically keep the heat inside.

[@theaveragewoodsman6002]

I'm not personally an ultralight backpacker but I do try to keep my weight down. Which can be hard during the winter months. I'm originally from Florida, so winter camping isn't a whole lot different from any other time of year there. I've been traveling for work so I've done some camping in real winter weather (northwest Nevada, South Dakota and Wisconsin). I've come to rely on the MMSS black bag and bivy. I slept on top on the snow covered ground in the Black Hills National Forest with just the bag and bivy. It got down to 12 below that night. Wasn't cold at all but getting out of that bag in the morning was a serious chore. Thanks for all the great content, Dave!

[@loosejooce]

Another excellent addition to the series Dave. Thanks :)

[@robertherek4020]

Looking forward to what your going to show for the hammock sleep set up. Used tents all my life but been seriously thinking of switching to the hammock set up for more comfort and versatility

[@toneyjohnson8910]

Great series can't wait to see what clothes you are wearing for this series.

[@2secondslater]

Dependent on the climate, you could even do away with a quilt or bag and carry a space blanket for a lean to and start a fire, keeping warm from the reflective heat. So many ways to cut wieght down.

[@stevenfournier1933]

Love this series. Had been using a Kelty Redwing 50L pack for two years. Cut a few straps down and got it to 3.15lbs . Great for 3 to 5 days in bush for 3 seasons . Extremely durable and comfortable. Recently picked up Granite Gear Crown 2 60L pack. Going to use it this winter for 2 and 3 days out and see how it holds up. Only 2.2lbs. Big enough to hold gear for the New England winters if you strap snugpak blanket and a down bag to outside. Might want to check it out. 60l for 2.2 lbs. As always thanks for your efforts.

[@jeffrichards5106]

Great information Dave, thanks. That down overquilt is something I definitely have to look into.

[@ajpain6673]

Dave Canterbury + ultralight camping.. my life is now complete! All the best from the U.K

[@484magnum]

Another Great video Dave, I really like this series. Thanks

[@RustyGunn7]

Thanks. Nice, interesting series.

[@ebony5766]

From just this video I learned so much! Thanks Dave.

[@WayneTheSeine]

Great video David. Not rambling at all..... very well presented good information.

[@spfb]

Great information! It is really amazing how things add up in weight that people probly just don't realize! Really enjoy all your videos....

[@JSG-mw4qr]

It only takes 16 ounces to make a lb.! It only take 35 lbs to make yer life a nightmare Haha

[@AerodynamicBrick]

@@JSG-mw4qr I wish someone told me that when I took off one trip I played football and figured I can carried more... 61lbs later the devil is laughing at my misery....

[@jjakejones]

Did not think it was rambling at all. Straight forward IMO.

[@thebrizzy]

That sleeping pad looks like the X-Therm which has an R-Value of 5.7. I’ve used it for over a year now. Super warm.

[@DavidCanterbury]

Thanks man appreciate it-

[@michaelcarter8209]

Outstanding

[@LegionTacticoolCutlery]

Zpack has everything you need. Pack, shelter, sleep system but will be costly

[@jamessotherden5909]

This series is definitely worth watching. L:ike how you explain the whys and whats of the equipment your showing. Thanks.

[@Thereisonlyonefrankdatank]

Solid info. Hiking gear is a lot to cover. Thank you Dave

[@pastorpfp1]

Thats great, Dave! I like the new series. On a fishing trip in the summer would be lighter, because the hunting gear is lighter then fishing gear! :)) LOL! HAha!

[@mattalbright180]

It was a really good ramble though Dave!! It does all add up so quickly, that weight and cost. I know I have allot of money in my backpacking kit, so I only bring it out if I have miles to cover. If I used it every time I went into the woods it wouldn't hold up as long

[@jessierobbins2321]

Good information

[@Seancmccormick]

Yes! Now we're getting somewhere! I can't wait to see the layout. The tyvek is a great idea. Love the direction this is going. Atb Sean

[@andremackay8565]

Love the series, great options, keep it coming

[@jeffrichardsonoutdoorschan5324]

Great info Dave! I've learned a lot from the channel and starting to incorporate some of what I learned in my own videos! Can't wait to see more man! 🤘

[@thomasnugent7602]

Very good ideas, Thank you very much

[@jeremiahacree3619]

Cool video... I'm really enjoying this series...that first pack is pretty nice too

[@daankoolstra]

Hi Dave, thank you for another great series! Question: have you considered a bivy sack instead of a groundsheet for added warmth, moisture protection and smaller footprint? Love to hear your perspective as I am considering purchasing one.

[@kentcostello8099]

Hay I love watching your videos there full of info. My 72 hour bug out pack weighs just at 25 pounds thank you 🤔🇺🇸👍

[@Atkrdu]

Dave, you can make a very light pack with a garbage bag & some tubular webbing with a folded exercise mat inside against your back (maybe some aluminum foil taped to the inner side for heat reflection), Just do it like one of the old Russian backpacks, but put a sock in each end/corner for knobs & tie that knot from Winterizing the Hammock for the Common Man behind them. Now you can fold the middle of the strap down against the two lines coming up & pull the lines behind that bend up to make a loop that you pull the top of the pack through & the weight keeps it closed as you go.

[@rickyjackson4307]

Great video Dave, I love it, keep up the good work

[@timroseberry9079]

Keep it comin

[@ramshacklewizard]

I use my neoair in a hammock with an overquilt and no underquilt. As long as you're not way down below freezing it's more than enough insulation to be comfortable in Western Canada :)

[@shocktroop0351]

Keep up the great work! I’m very interested in what your four seasons gear is going to be. Is an overnight fire a part of your planning, or are you trying to avoid it since the modern gear is pretty sensitive to it? Thanks again Dave, please ramble on!

[@EarthToneLoGear]

Dave, Could you add the names of the packs to the video description. I was able to look up the first one you displayed, but your ohio accent won't let me figure out the name of the second one. :) Thanks, - Joe

[@benthere8051]

Well done Dave. That makes good sense.

[@sargintrock2538]

Most Excellent!

[@snaponjohn100]

Great video Dave. I think if you can keep the “big three” under 9 pounds you’re doing really well. I think those Oiled Canvas and Leather Rucks weigh 9 or 10 lbs. by themselves. lol. Be blessed my friend. John

[@Datsyzerberg]

Pretty much how I've operated since I figured out what that magic weight number is. Anything i want, as long as it's all under that number.

[@kevinmoyer6224]

I bought my forever pack Which is an alps outdoors 80L pack. Which im strong enough to carry 80+lbs of gear and ive practiced with it, but for the reg camping stuff, i have a smallers alps pack that i camp with normal. Im a hammock/tarp guy, so its pretty light

[@Adventurer-1971]

Liking this series alot

[@nulisticONE]

I switch out my canvas and leather packs for ULA packs, super durable and very lightweight and comfortable. Highly suggested.

[@ROE1300]

A lot of useful information.

[@daeholm]

Excellent series. It's unfortunate that the bushcraft/hunting world and the ultralight world are viewed as separate when both approaches can and should compliment each other.

[@eddywiggins620]

Interesting series of videos. Ashame there isn't a kit load out list similar to like Josh, the Grey bearded green beret does with kit in his videos , so we could compare and investigate the different load outs and possibly take good bits from both kits

[@anthonymusso5282]

Good vid, sleeping bag/wool blanket has always been a weight struggle for me

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Great series

[@marjiecleveland]

Very useful. Weight sure does add up quick. You weren’t rambling!

[@treerat6959]

I get the jest of the modern day nessmuck kit and I'm sure it's good for trail hiking but I can't see long term heavy off trail usage of it. What if a spark lands on the quilt will it be as rugged as a wool blanket ? How about tarp will it hold up to an area that has stormy weather that in high winds drops branches upon it from time to time and not tare not talking limbs but branches here . Packs to take a beating when off trail through thick vegitation not sure of the different possibilities of fabrics out today as I've only used canvas and GI ruck sacks and both have been good but not near perfect.

[@jjdamage855]

I'm loving this series, I was wondering what kind of burrow did you get (size,model)? I've got a HG burrow econ and I'm really enjoying it. I use it on the ground.

[@atsp18]

I really like this series.

[@northernwoodsman]

I really miss the Yurt videos. I like when you focus on Weapons, gear, and shelter. Especially guns and axes personally.

[@maritimespook]

Awesome Dave another great vid in the series brother!!;:,;,; cheers !;:,:;, Spook

[@spider5001]

Man I love this series!🙂 Will you still ruck with weight for exercise? I kinda have experienced the reverse of this process. Started out backpacking and found I really enjoyed bushcraft. A lot of my gear is still lightweight hiking. It just never fails lol. You know everything you’ve just shown will be sold out for months. Maybe not that cuban fiber stuff. It’s a little on the expensive side. I wish I could show you my 3 season bag. The baffles run horizontally from zipper to zipper. I can shake all the down to be on top of me. It’s super light and warm. It’s the marmot atom. I don’t think they even make them anymore.

[@vonsprague7913]

Great video as always and incredibly well presented. All back to the usual conundrum though, to lose pounds you have to spend £s (dollars). If you use your kit a lot as I do then buying more expensive lighter kit is well worth it. It's up to the individual to decide.

[@Nofixedabode859]

Dave the groundpad you were showing looks thesme as mine, grey neoair xtherm and it is a winter pad with a r value of 5.7

[@DavidCanterbury]

Thanks man

[@sartiwitt4892]

I use the sleeping bag upside down like a Quilt. My old sleeping bags I are to small wide. Works great for WWII ECW down bag.

[@anthonyromano8565]

I never thought the ultra light world would collide with bush-craft and survival. Worlds collide.

[@R.C.1161]

Age is the driving force :)

[@marvinjim6957]

Great video Dave! Would you be kind enough to tell me what boots you’re wearing?

[@mattmcconnell6870]

Welcome to the fold Dave. I love your videos and I'm glad your finally doing something weight related. Have you considered doing a cut down video on some of your new kit? dropping wight by removing extra materials tags webbing and the like is a handy UL trick. You might check out Mike Clellands UL books I found them really helpful for saving weight without spending money.

[@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE]

I love the series of videos mostly because I’ve been calculating the same thing from the past three years 👍

[@wilbed1082]

Dave, what boots/shoes are you wearing? It seems like you've had those a while and I'm in the market for some more.

[@DavidCanterbury]

GO RUCK MACV-1

[@smd482000]

Btw great vids

[@garrettnelson9890]

Thanks for the great video! Can you please tell me the thickness of your air mat? (You may have said it already, and I missed it...?) I currently use the Stansport self-inflating that's 1.5" thick on my outdoor excursions. I need the mat for my bad back, but the trade off is bulkyness.

[@Rooster1964]

I got the 15L hidden woodsman bag. Been trying to figure out what to do with it for a day hike, overnight bag.

[@AdventuresWithDaniel]

Another good one Dave!

[@czechmate9591]

If you weren't too worried about in regards to the sleep system what ish your thoughts on a wool blanket.

[@Jonsoh811]

Hi Dave, I was just wondering, what total weight (not base weight) do you expect to be carrying? I’m looking to lessen the weight I’m carrying for my 2 week (without resupply) trips. However I don’t know what a realistic weight goal would be.

[@DHFHades]

would sheepskin be good for a sleeping pad for winter? kinda heavy at 3 pounds for a 2x6 foot, but the r value is pretty good. and they are comfortable.

[@pheonixdown3944]

Canvas or poly tarp.dave? I see you use both and there are pros and cons.

[@jhanks2012]

a friend of a friend is interested in making cloaks that one can wear that would block an infrared camera from seeing his heat signature from above ... is high R-value what he should be looking for?

[@Wildwestwrangler]

Yo Dave instead of a cheap pair of binos you could get a decent monocular and save serious space and weight!!!

[@mulishadelta]

What is the stuff sacks and tarp? What is the gear in general?

[@Jason-pf8qc]

What is the small ground pad in the front of the pack?

[@jim7115]

EBERLESTOCK M1 mainframe with j-type drybag/zip on.... 65L. lightest pack AVAILABLE for 65L.

[@RyanBissell]

After 16:00, 90 seconds of wondering if you noticed your glasses had fallen.

[@shofarox4037]

Great topics this ones in "At the shadow of..." series videos for all those who are in between hiking-bush crafting or hunting-hiking, many where looking after someone who speaks about a balance between ultrahigh but also heavy duty gear. Now... Which backpack would you choose out of this three : Fjallraven, US army ILBE or a Seek Outside backpacks. Thanks