When did Saruman turn evil?

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[@neildaly2635]

Hard to say when. He may have been frustrated with lack of efficiency of the White Council, which probably had a lot to do with him as the head. Saruman did not have a good track record of working with others largely due to his ego. Treebeard probably put it best - “He was always hasty, it was his ruin.” Love your insightful work!

[@TheHippyProductions]

I love a good nature being done right. Blessed be Tolkien, the grandfather of fantasy.

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

It was when Qui-gon died.... wait wrong Christopher Lee!

[@thechairman74]

Lee must have been wondering why his characters always did heel turns. 😂

[@thechairman74]

@@mitwhitgaming7722 Lee was probably saying, "Guys, I know I play a lot of villains, but I was a war hero for Christ's sakes, doesn't that matter??" 😂

[@WeirwoodNet]

Twice the proud double the fall

[@videnez]

there is no wrong Christopher Lee!

[@adinocc2042]

I wish Qui Gon was here. He'd never stand for a Sauron in control of the senate!

[@cyrilmeynier5688]

Her : i'm sure he is thinking about another woman. Me : When did Saruman turn evil?

[@sarab6415]

I laughed out loud😂

[@jacob4920]

So you were, indeed, thinking about another MAN!!!! lol

[@Belligerent_Herald]

Of note, Gandalf and Radagast make a point of constantly interacting with regular folk, Gandalf with people, Radagast with the creatures of the Forrest. Perhaps this helped to keep them grounded, that much power in isolation was only ever going to end one way.

[@TheZetaKai]

Wait, so you're basically saying that Saruman should've touched grass?

[@Scientist_Salarian]

Same reason why politicians live in gated communities and eat at members-only clubs. They don’t want to interact with the commoners. When you lose connection with normal people, you lose empathy for them.

[@crowhaveninc.2103]

@@TheZetaKai He should've at least touched Treebeard's beard from time to time

[@t_k_blitz4837]

@@TheZetaKai Does pipeweed count?

[@traceyedson9652]

@@t_k_blitz4837It addles the brain.

[@awesomehpt8938]

When he smoked a bad batch of longbottom leaf.

[@Savag3ly]

That would send any man in to the darkness.

[@infinidominion]

​@@Savag3lyGandalf was fine tho, he got bad stuff from the Dwarves dozens of times

[@0The_Farlander0]

The idea of someone as powerful as Saruman becoming a villain after a bad trip is pretty funny

[@macrosense]

He was not a mellow smoker. He wanted a souped-up hot rod with big bass speakers. Maybe some Nike Shoes

[@jamesdejesus7668]

Known among some as the “evil weed”

[@istari0]

To my mind, Saruman's fall began even before he left Valinor with his reaction to Gandalf and Radagast being added as Istari.

[@DestroyedArkana]

Yeah it seems like that he was always bound to head down that kind of path from the beginning. The only question was how long it would take.

[@KingofKarnies]

I've always felt that both Saruman and Galadriel were both allegories for pride and hubris. Saruman succumbing to and Galadriel overcoming, the test of The Ring, their pride and hubris.

[@RingsLoreMaster]

I never thought of them as being connected. Galadriel, to my mind, was Denethor's foil. At all events, there is a good deal more to the novel's heroine.

[@traceyedson9652]

The current series is certainly setting that up.

[@neildaly2635]

Heresy! No bad batch of Longbottom leaf was ever exported. Sealed in a barrel with trademark Hornblower marks means perfection!

[@everettdepangher6131]

Thanks for this commentary. I feel LOTR includes additional clues to this question in how the characters react to Saruman’s imprisonment of Gandalf. Most starkly, Gwaihir simply accepts Gandalf’s account and frees him. However, as far as the eagle actually new, Gandalf had turned evil, and Saruman had imprisoned Gandalf to neutralize that danger. Gwaihir must have already had a firm opinion of the wizards’ relative moral character to forgo even checking in downstairs and hearing Saruman’s side of the story. Later, the members of the Council of Elrond will unanimously accept Gandalf’s account (and do so without even much comment). None even consider the option that a genuine misunderstanding had arisen between their wizard friends. Maybe even more importantly, we see little emotional reaction. Aside from perhaps Gandalf and Theoden, no one mourns the loss of a relationship with Saruman or tries to contact him to seek reconciliation. Even Denethor (who might have still seen himself as at least nominally Saruman’s superior as mayor-general of Isengard) says little on the topic. Everyone seems to act as if Saruman’s treachery, while not expected, was not especially surprising either.

[@12classics39]

Very good point!

[@josevns95]

Excellent, never had that in perspective.

[@vidarfe]

Gwaihir may have been in contact with Manwë and could potentially have some special intel from him. But for the others, very good point.

[@traceyedson9652]

@@vidarfeDid the eagles go “back and forth,” as it were?

[@thomasrinschler6783]

I would guess Galadriel pretty much already suspected, and Elrond wouldn't be that far behind her in his suspicions. What is so surprising then, is that Gandalf walked right into the trap of Orthanc without taking any serious precautions, especially given the fact he knew of the location of the Ring and that the plan was for him to guide Frodo to Rivendell in the immediate future.

[@blakelarsen7023]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. What was that armadillo in the Palantir? Tom Barmadillo?

[@marcpeterson1092]

Sauruman appears to be wondering the same thing.

[@host_theghost507]

You try keeping white robes clean for a thousand years and see what it does to your mood.

[@t_k_blitz4837]

No wonder he just gave up and went with Many Colours.

[@RingsLoreMaster]

No wonder Saruman wanted a robe of multi colors.

[@ericthompson3982]

Heh.

[@thomasdawicki141]

@@t_k_blitz4837throwing in the towel after the ninth mustard stain

[@TheInselaffen]

The last time I was this early Morgoth himself had yet to begin his discordant song.

[@arthurdownes5198]

Arda marred yet?

[@FunkBastid]

“Hmmm. I’ve named my evil lord, Sauron, but what shall I name his right-hand man?” *draws on pipe* “By jove, I think I’ve got it.”

[@tmage23]

Even as a Maia, he was jealous and prideful and shared a number of personality traits with Mairon. He was the worst of the Maiar to choose for the task he was given.

[@beatleblev]

One of my favorite lines in the Legendarium comes from Unfinished Tales concerning Saruman: "And Curunir Lan, Saruman the White, fell from his high errand, and becoming proud and impatient, and enamored of power, sought to have his own will by force, and to oust Sauron; but he was ensnared by that dark spirit, mightier than he." That perfectly encapsulates the arc of Curunir as an Istar. Saruman sleuths his way along tracing the footprints of Sauron right into darkness. They have so much in common. I wonder if Marion and Curunir were friends in Aman and if Curunir might have taken Sauron's betrayal personally, which would explain his eagerness for the mission. Perhaps he was already curious about the 'technology' of the Rings of Power.

[@vidarfe]

Didn't both Saruman and Sauron work for Aulë back in the day?

[@thomasrinschler6783]

@@vidarfe Yep, both were Maia of Aule.

[@beatleblev]

@@vidarfe Yes. It is a shame that Aule could never teach his students that the joy of creation is in the making and not in the possession. The Valaquenta says of Aule, "But Aule remained faithful to Eru and submitted all that he did to his will; and he did not envy the works of others, but sought and gave council." Unfortunately collaboration and generosity were two of Aule's best traits that his pupils failed to emulate. And for Saruman and Sauron both spent their spirits in pursuit of domination and exerting their will on Middle Earth and wound up powerless shades invisible and impotent for as long as Arda lasts.

[@stephenjohn2131]

Way to hell is paved with good intentions or something like that. I believe he glanced into the possibilities of the ring being destroyed but Saruman being so knowledgeable about the ring's lore second only to Sauron himself. I think he came into the dark realization that no one can willingly destroy it. I am aware that we as the audience are made fully aware of that being a ring lore master there's a possibility that he came to learn that. The outcome may have frustrated him knowing how the world will fall under Sauron's dominion. Saruman also is a practical man who believes in what he sees, he has little interest in hopeful quests or prophecies, ironically despite being one of the ainur, he knows should the full might of Mordor and it's allies unleashes, there's little that freefolk could do to stop him, in time all shall be subject to the will of the dark lord. The last alliance was the last time the freefolk were as powerful, elves have been sailing ship for Valinor since the death of their high king Gilgalad and were fading. Gondor also didn't fare better as it had no king to lead. Power of men has diminished and it's a decaying world, realistically Saruman, unlike Gandalf, had no reason to place his trust in men. So he forsake his purpose of guiding the free folk altogether for other alternatives to defeat Sauron. Saruman believes in power as well, but being in a body of an old man with his powers being so limited he realized he was no match to oppose Sauron who sided with Morgoth in his full might. His power may have diminished after the sinking of Numenor but he was still potent and powerful enough. The only way Saruman could ever defeat Sauron, is if he had his One Ring. A small object that contains majority of Sauron's power and essence. If only he could claim the mastery over it, he could defeat Sauron. So that's exactly became his plan, he started to look for the one ring to defeat Sauron. He realized that alone he couldn't achieve it so he allied himself with Sauron, in an attempt to fool him and get what informations he could get via Palantir. The outcome of this alliance only furthered his corruption. Simply put, the One Ring is absolute power and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Saruman being prideful only hastened this process. He later also tried convincing Gandalf to join him and we know the rest of the story. Saruman truly is one of my favorite characters from Tolkien's world.

[@RingsLoreMaster]

Wow! Thank you so much. I have been looking for the novel's fallen hero for I can't remember how long. No need to continue trying to fit Smeagol into that role.

[@t_k_blitz4837]

I'd completely missed the significance of the wind coming up out of the West and blowing him away; needless to say, it blew ME away when you pointed it out in another vid!

[@dntn31]

Video idea: Why didn't Saruman take Narya from Gandalf when he imprisoned him in Orthanc (Or Glamdring for that matter)?

[@gptsiteuser]

I asked this comment and someone said that Gandalf could make it invisible to Saruman if he wanted

[@Mathemagical55]

@@gptsiteuser I doubt he could make it invisible to a fellow-Maia.

[@Scientist_Salarian]

He may very well have planned to once his pressing work with the Uruk Hai was finished. He didn’t count on Gandalf escaping. Saruman thought he’d have more time to deal with him

[@t_k_blitz4837]

"A wizard did it."

[@Beregorn88]

Because when LotR was written, only the ring-bearers and Cirdan knew who the other were. The part about Saruman knowing it was added in later works

[@WonderKidWunderkind-ig1ms]

Easily my favorite KZbin channel these days. Such an easy, informative listen! Thank you!

[@deraldlean8487]

Ive always thought Radagast had zero intention of returning to Valanor. I like to think Yavanna gave him another mission apart from the other 4. To care for the wild life until the end!

[@RingsLoreMaster]

I love that!

[@shokmusic_AC]

I agree

[@DisFantasy]

He also did not think Sauron could be beaten. His lack of faithfulness more than jealousy was his downfall.

[@ATVatcher]

All of the Istari were likely impatient with the relative stupidity of the people of middle earth. Olorin/Gandalf had a particular background in the lessons of pity and forgiveness.

[@Welverin]

I’ve long wondered if Saruman was responsible for the disappearance of the blue wizards.

[@12classics39]

That’s not likely. If he was, then his treachery would’ve been detected much earlier.

[@Welverin]

@@12classics39 Considering how little interaction there seems to have been with the East, I'm not so sure about that.

[@12classics39]

@@Welverinas mentioned in the video, the Istari weren’t exactly a team. They each went about doing their mission in their own way. Gandalf was in touch with Saruman and Radagast because they were all in and around the West. But the Blue Wizards were behind enemy lines in the East and probably were forced to lose all contact with the other wizards. Their “disappearance” doesn’t have to mean that Saruman harmed them. I definitely think there’s no way Saruman could’ve killed them. Two against one - besides, they would’ve just been sent back like Gandalf was, and then, after something as extreme as that, they probably would’ve made the effort to expose Saruman’s treachery.

[@errantwinds-up8uu]

"Saruman was a bit put out." Well that has a nice understated ring to it (ring... haha).

[@Cosper79]

Best Tolkien KZbinr!

[@reallythatbad1]

Probably when he saw the future where he doesn't even make it to the theatrical release of Return of the King.

[@rexdipietro116]

Happy birthday to Frodo and Bilbo!! 🎉

[@IMSwimmer19]

The story of good vs evil is maybe not so straightforward as good and evil characters, but also the good and the evil within each one.

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

Gandalf is really the only one of them who actually did his job, even taking down a balrog. - Radagast - hanging out with critters and smoking something… - Blue Wizards - gave up in the end and founded some cults. - Saruman - eventually tries to become the next dark lord.

[@Inverter222]

When he got Twitter he turned evil.

[@Turnoutburndown]

Another legendary In Deep Geek! I love it how your videos hammer home the message of LOTR: There is potential for greatness in EVERYONE, and also potential for evil.

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

He was evil from birth. Eru had it all figured out, and the outcome was written in stone.

[@sggames4787]

That would go directly against Tolkien's legendarium. He said that not even Morgoth was evil from the first.

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

@@sggames4787 I know. But Eru contradicts himself. He knew from the very start where it was all going to end. This is the eternal conflict between divine predetermination and the concept/illusion of free will.

[@sggames4787]

I don't deny that there's conflict between Eru's foreknowledge of events and the free will of those in the events, but your statement is still technically incorrect. Saruman was not evil from the beginning, because Eru could not create anything inherently evil, even if he knew Saruman would eventually choose evil.

[@Tryingtogetradical]

Love that they all kind of just F’d off, especially the Blue Wizards. Showed up and decided they’d rather not

[@Wrugoin13]

Another great video and essay. Saruman has always been one of the charters I felt I least understood. This was super interesting and helpful.

[@darkhoof69]

Saruman was playing both sides, so that he always comes out on top.

[@tonyjanney1654]

It sounds like these sayings could have served as warnings to Saruman or apply to him: “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.” and "Be careful who you choose as your enemy because that's what you become most like." ― Friedrich W. Nietzsche

[@viator21]

Armadillos aren’t dark things! They are adorable!!!

[@fvefve12]

Did he turned evil? I think he thought he could fight fire with fire. I think he really thought that if he had the ring, he could defeat Sauron. He became an ally to Sauron just as Russia allied with Germany for a while. Edit: Great stream of videos about Middle Earth the last weeks!

[@nicholaswatson1045]

I literally wondered this about 20 minutes ago and wondered if you had made a video on this. wow haha

[@jacob4920]

I really wish we had gotten more information on THE BLUE WIZARDS!! That's the one element that Mr Tolkien never really did come through for his readers. Their absence from the overall storyline, and the complete lack of detail as to what those two were actually doing, for all those years, almost makes me feel like it would have made no difference if they were there at all! Hell, we never even got their freaking NAMES!!!

[@cartoonistanonymous]

I'm curious, is there more written/mentioned about the details of Saruman's volunteering; to be sent to middle Earth / to be the "leader" of the guys? Specifically, was he: 1. asked to be leader? 2. asked to go? 3. asked about who to send? 4. asked about the trip in general? 5. told about the trip & he asked? 6. told to go and accepted? 7. aware of the trip because everyone was talking about it and he was excited to so he asked? 8. offered the chance for the trip? 9. actually volunteering for bowling captain but didn't want to seem rude after the mixup and he's been carrying the embarassment of that moment ever since, plus the disappointment at not being in charge of snacks on league nights at Wingilótë Lanes, the jealousy of seeing the position go to Ulmo (because of course they pick Ulmo, everyone likes Ulmo), a wedge of perceived slight wedging like a wedge between him and the angels, eventually culminating in his rejection of the side of light and life due to them robbing him his true passion of holding shiny spheres in his palm but then also being allowed to roll them on the ground to knock things over without everyone going all, "Saruman, stop! These are really old and magic or whatever! And Aiwendil's gamecube is coming out of your allowence!", the tyranny of the Valar going unnoticed or ignored? 10. Was Eru involved/behind it? & how much? Thank you deeply for talking Tolkien so much! I find their world & stories really inspiring and I love finding out new things about them, and I can tell you do too, the efforts show! ❤

[@matthewhelmers1426]

Can you imagine being the spirit of Curomo reincarnating in Valinor, a bunch of Valar standing around "you've got some explaining to do"!

[@christianjacinto7042]

According to the book he didn't even get that. It says a spirit rose up from his dead body, looked west and was then blown away by the wind.

[@Pfhorrest]

Interestingly, Saurman's core flaw seems to be the same as Melkor's: *he* needs to be number one, on top, in charge, not subservient to anyone else. (And if you've seen my previous comments on this channel, I think that Melkor is just a projection of that same quality of Iluvatar himself, which is consequently the core flaw of the whole of Ea, which will be redeemed when the Flame Imperishable is finally shared with all at the Second Music.)

[@WackyIraqi1000]

Every time i watch one of your video,s i wish you did a full read of lord of the rings, your story telling voice is epic .... much respect to you mr Geek

[@alexanderericson8628]

I have a different interpretation. I think he envied Gandalf all his life and when the chance came to find his own master he wanted Gandalf to join as well, this was because it would put him on an equal status. He becomes enraged when Gandalf is unwilling to listen, and it isn't just because they lose a powerful warrior it's personal for Saruman. The game to stop the fellowship becomes his trial to prove to himself that he is stronger than Gandalf. Saruman wants a clear order a hierarchy to live by he does not see neither good nor evil only power and the recognition that would give him, or so he believes.

[@LNVACVAC]

The dangerous study of armadillos. 😂

[@jordanvickaryous-remenda876]

It's a great feeling... getting off work kn a Friday and seeing IDG video

[@ericgeddes3353]

I've been waiting for this one. Thanks Robert!

[@eoinwestman6222]

He was later described in text as not Saruman the white but as Saruman the many coloured

[@christophercharba1891]

I thought it was when he looked into the palantir and saw Rings of Power would be made.

[@shokmusic_AC]

Excellent video and great writing! I always look forward to your videos.

[@antoniotruong5647]

Why was he so weak? He was easily defeated by a bunch of trees. Gandalf took out a Balrog, rode to battle at Helms Deep, defended Gondor, took on the Witch King, and was part of the battle at the gates of Mt. Doom. Wasn't he suppose to be more powerful than Gandalf???

[@blueshattrick]

In Tolkien's world, good is always stronger than evil! 😉

[@temmy9]

he had likely begun to disperse his power into his minions and artifacts to control them

[@g1novanni]

One of the reasons why I hold the belief that the Blue Wizards stuck to their task is because Saruman was NOT clearly turned after spending hundreds of years in the East. If they were corrupted, then Saruman would have been. That's just me, though.

[@ScottHess]

We know that Saruman went east with the blue wizards, but we really don’t know what happened to them. Perhaps Saruman is the reason we don’t know about them.

[@ColeKulina]

I’d love a video on why Tom bombadil couldn’t beat Sauron… as he seems pretty damn powerful

[@corrinflakes9659]

It was when his metal Christmas album didn’t hit Sarumanillion copies sold.

[@wayneshilcock3027]

Including the rise of Aragorn to become King of Gondor, which he did not seek.

[@roderickfemm8799]

As the ancient Greeks taught us, the gods are archetypes of human frailties and strengths. Saruman is the haughty one whose hubris is his downfall.

[@John_Locke_108]

He was corrupted by Darth Plagueis.

[@smorsnbread1002]

Hey IDG!! I seriously love your content and I love the LOTR videos! If by any chance you come across this comment, could you maybe consider doing more witcher content? I just finished the books and I would love to hear your in depth perspective on them! Thanks!

[@markadams7046]

I always wondered if Edward VIII was the inspiration for Saruman. He sided with the Nazi's shortly before the outbreak of war. Was King of The United Kingdom for a short time, and supposedly desired the crown that he relinquished in order to marry Wallis Simpson. Perhaps he was jealous of his brother having the crown and seeing himself as the rightful leader of the Kingdom.

[@permeus2nd]

The odd thing about both Sauron and Saruman is they both served what most would call good aka Order, they both wanted the world to be orderly just orderly under their control, the problem is life can not survive under total order just like it can’t survive under total chaos, life needs a careful balance between the two. The same can be said for Gandalf the only difference is he understands that there needs to be a balance.

[@PumpkinHoard]

When Sauron caught him by the Palantiri. And no, that's not a euphemism. I think.

[@kimwilliams3214]

IDK man, I slightly sympathize with early-on Saruman...he was instructed to head a division of Istari and had that leadership questioned multiple times in those early stages. I'd be kinda pissed too. Who's to say that if he'd just been given that elven ring and chosen first as the head of that council that maybe he'd never have gotten jealous. It definitely had to burn even more when he willingly chose to do the job and the guy who kept getting picked over him (Gandalf) didn't even want it. Would you find that encouraging? Should a person be required to humble themselves next to someone who LITERALLY didn't want the job? "Cool thx I guess, f*ck me for giving a shit!" He probably should have been the one to stay in the West though, to build bonds with those elves but I guess hindsight is 20/20.

[@jackcoogan310]

Mark my words: Saruman is the Stranger. All the hints point toward Gandalf or a Blue Wizard, but I think it’s a long was of explaining how good Saruman once was (and how he got a love for Long Bottom Leaf…)

[@matthewanipen2418]

this might be one of the best! 2nd to Bill of course...still crying

[@sarab6415]

Bill the pony is so nuanced💕

[@GravesRWFiA]

a follow up might be to look at them as maiar before coming to middle earth. a great many of the followers of Aule seem to have gone wrong.

[@phoule76]

He didn't like Bakshi calling him Aruman, that's for sure.

[@ripdimebag42]

Keep your friends close and your allies closer

[@Radenshaal]

Are these old videos, I feel like I've seen it before?

[@mr.jglokta191]

What a great idea to send one pupil of Aulë to defeat another pupil of Aulë Now I'm not pointing fingers here, but...

[@wulyfs]

yassified Círdan gets me every time

[@highlandoutsider]

Yeah I'm pretty sure he was doomed to fall long before ever getting to middle earth, I have a feeling it's part of the reason he was sent, Eru Ilúvatar knew he had a part to play and play it he did

[@Swarzyc]

Didn't Tolkien changed his opinion about blue wizards later and said that they were working agains sauron on the east?

[@brad1840]

Video idea: Can anyone other than Sauron truly master the One ring?

[@merwindor]

5:32 dark things looks like cat meme's on a crystal ball

[@maxstr]

What would have happened to Saruman if he had died? Like how Gandalf was sent back, would Saruman face judgement by the Valar?

[@Johnem-Love]

Was there a kin-ship of sorts between Sauron and Saruman, going back to the elder days when both studied under Aulë - and the love both bore for craft and order. The former chose a divergence unto that path of dark discipleship as he chose to folow Melkor. One begs the question, did Saruman too bear a similar fault/weakness. A deep seed of a forgotten bond that blighted both?

[@christianellegaard7120]

Gandalf is one of my favourite characters. But I liked him better when all I knew about him was what I read in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. He seemed a wise and highly educated human. He was part of an order (perhaps one of many) of wizards with Saruman as its head. I always felt that learning that he is an immortal being, diminished him. His order consisted of just five such beings, only three of which are ever mentioned in the main story. Rather than being part of a wider class of magicians.

[@pmtoner9852]

In deep geek should have its own amazon series

[@richardnelson354]

This is a really good one

[@tk423b]

His most vile act was choosing the name Sharky

[@JeffreyWillis800]

It's like parts of this actually connect to history somehow.

[@malkav_ils]

Nice to see old videos reuploaded

[@adinocc2042]

Great video!

[@shamusomalley4263]

Muh boi Sharkey ain't evil, he's just written thay way!

[@Ashecomics]

when you think about it. Gandalf killed the mayar durins bane(belrog), glrofindil also killed a mayar (belrog), but then we have wormtounge who also killed a mayar (saruman). thus wormtounge is as strong as gandalf and glorfindal!

[@cartoonistanonymous]

that isn't canon, Tolkien cut that from the movie, also in the book it was like a punk waterwheel or something

[@pineapplesthechad4757]

did your maegor video get taken down or am i miss remembering ?

[@F.S92]

Guy deleted like 90% of his Game of Thrones lore videos. With zero explanations.

[@RW77777777]

When i watched the Fellowship i noticed at the 28:45 timestamp his eyes shifted left and then right; and there was some pretty ominous music in the background. I guess I should have said something

[@MrLostMD]

..... the harfoot scenes are in the past of the shows timeline, right?

[@presidentjojo3418]

another question... Why is Aule so bad at mentorning Maia?

[@NotoriousCRD]

Did Galadriel form the white council? Where does that info come from? Thanks

[@jacobshore5115]

Maybe he could’ve been better if he’d learned from Nienna like Olórin/Gandalf did…

[@laptopdragon]

where did the storm giants go and did they ever go to war against the giant middle earth eaters (Were-worms)?

[@timmymeredith7499]

Love your videos you may have already made a video like this but if you haven't could you make a video on what will eventually happen to morgoth what will eventually happen at the very end when all things are reshaped and redone love to hear the story

[@Plarby]

Hi, Robert, this is everyone, we love your content :v

[@booboolips6053]

He was turned by Darth Sidious.

[@Anarchouettisme]

Can we really say that he was "evil"? I mean he's not "evil" like Morgoth or Ungoliant were. I don't know maybe I'm playing with words, you could argue that "turning" evil and "being" evil is different, difficult for me to really grasp as english is not my native language.

[@Corleone1891]

Amazon should just fund and air In Deep Geek instead of Rings Of Power.

[@nichescenes]

New to the channel. Great stuff. May i ask how you feel about the new show, or season of rings of power. I looked up your take on the first ep and you seemed very good at reviewing it. No over the top hate or love. I hope you watched more. If others know he watched it all please let me know i do not see it on search.