Who is Tom Bombadil?

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@InDeepGeek
@InDeepGeek 2 ай бұрын
This is a revised and updated version of a video first published in March 2020
@RHCole
@RHCole 2 ай бұрын
We need a Farmer Maggot video, even if it's only a short 👍🏻 That dude is pretty awesome
@ihcfn
@ihcfn 2 ай бұрын
thought it was
@meorgegoran
@meorgegoran 2 ай бұрын
I'm so glad it's back
@mr.jglokta191
@mr.jglokta191 Ай бұрын
I was just like "wait... I watched this a while ago 🤨🤔"
@bityew
@bityew Ай бұрын
What a completely delightful assessment of Tom's "meaning." I needed this today.
@golbez1583
@golbez1583 Ай бұрын
That moment when you realize that Tom Bombadil is ‘older than old’ simply because the character was developed before the story of middle earth itself XD.
@McClogs
@McClogs Ай бұрын
Buddy, your narration is so pleasing. Your tone of voice, your vocabulary and intonation... it's all spot on!
@AlistairFairweather
@AlistairFairweather Ай бұрын
Hard agree
@chrisbrown4539
@chrisbrown4539 Ай бұрын
@@AlistairFairweather Indubitably!
@SPIKESPIEGEL1969
@SPIKESPIEGEL1969 23 күн бұрын
jolly good show tip o the mornin
@turqeeman
@turqeeman 21 күн бұрын
Get a room! 😂 jk
@maxerea4380
@maxerea4380 2 күн бұрын
Its an AI voice you can find online.
@DragonsAndDragons777
@DragonsAndDragons777 2 ай бұрын
Everyone always asks; "Who is Tom Bombadil?", never "How is Tom Bombadil?"
@MintJellyfish-te3bt
@MintJellyfish-te3bt 2 ай бұрын
Jolly no doubt
@feynthefallen
@feynthefallen 2 ай бұрын
or "Why is Tom Bombadil?"
@paulsarnik8506
@paulsarnik8506 2 ай бұрын
Everybody always TALKS about Tom Bombadil, but nobody does anything about Him🤷🏼‍♂️. 🤓😎✌🏼🇬🇧
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 ай бұрын
"WHAT is Tim Benzedrine?"
@wanderhillen2435
@wanderhillen2435 2 ай бұрын
I can assure you that Tom Bombadil is doing exceedingly well and has been enjoying his life together with Goldberry in the woods. But he thanks you for asking and hopes that you too are doing well!
@The-Mstr-Pook
@The-Mstr-Pook 2 ай бұрын
Tom bombadil is the Avatar of the music of the Ainur. that's why he can say he was there before anything else in Middle Earth. He's always singing, and his power is revealed in verse and Rhyme.
@IstariAzul777
@IstariAzul777 2 ай бұрын
🎯
@jamesdreads7828
@jamesdreads7828 Ай бұрын
Isn't everything a product/result of the music of the Ainur?
@kynareth3605
@kynareth3605 Ай бұрын
Yes, but some hypothesise that Tom could represent a direct manifestation of the music itself, not what the music created, similar to how some might see Ungoliant as a direct manifestation of the discord, as opposed to the evil that the discord would later lead to.
@timhiker5512
@timhiker5512 Ай бұрын
That’s been my general sense of Bombadil.
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz Ай бұрын
That’s a fun theory.
@thedragondemands5186
@thedragondemands5186 2 ай бұрын
He's a merry fellow.
@nigeldepledge3790
@nigeldepledge3790 Ай бұрын
Bright blue his jacket is; And his boots are yellow.
@chrisbrown4539
@chrisbrown4539 Ай бұрын
I wonder if Mr. Tolkien would take offense to questioning whether he's inspired by, or even synonymous with, Jolly Ol' Saint Nick? Or "Santy Claus," for the layman.
@RoamingAdhocrat
@RoamingAdhocrat Ай бұрын
Hi fol, merry dol, ring a ding a fucking dillo
@noahLogue-x5l
@noahLogue-x5l 18 күн бұрын
Tom Bombadilo Bombadilo.🎶🎵
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz Ай бұрын
My implicit take on Tom Bombadill is that he is an ideal or principle, perhaps the opposite of Ungoliant. Both are living manifestations of an ideals. One of the void, darkness, greed and gluttony/hinger. The other of joy, delight, contentedness, and singing.
@guyrixon5406
@guyrixon5406 Ай бұрын
Opposite of Sauron, perhaps, rather than Ungoliant. Sauron was explained on this channel as the embodiment of control: his desire for order took him over and consumed him. Bombadil is the exact opposite of that.
@beardedgeek973
@beardedgeek973 Ай бұрын
​@@guyrixon5406I think Ungoliant is more fitting, it is a lack of greed, the lack of having for having's sake, the focus of the natural over unnatural. Not tyranny vs freedom, but fullness over void.
@stuartl7761
@stuartl7761 15 күн бұрын
Ungoliant is also rather fitting as they have just as mysterious origins as Bombadil. One is tempted to think they may be opposites that opposed eachother even before and beyond the world of arda.
@tomharrington1453
@tomharrington1453 Ай бұрын
I have heard it explained this way: Tom Bombadil is a reminder that nature and the natural world are bigger and more eternal than men, dwarves, elves, orca and trolls. Regardless of how the war of the ring comes out nature will continue as it will. I think it’s a reminder from the author that despite the urgency of the story, the natural world will continue. I think Bombadil is meant to help us keep things in perspective.
@pacmonster066
@pacmonster066 Ай бұрын
I mean yes and no. The Ents were caretakers of nature yet sided with and aided the Fellowship because they knew if Sauron got his way, nature would be destroyed. Could also be said of Radaghast the Brown. Immortal miar that he was, rarely left his home in the woods and would have stayed there doing nothing much but again, he understood Sauron was a threat to nature, so aided Gandalf behind the scenes. So I agree with In Deep Geek's view on the character. Tom Bombadil simply exists in the moment and it's not more complicated than that.
@ricsouza5011
@ricsouza5011 Ай бұрын
Its Eru Illuvatar and later Tolkien thought it would be Heresy since the incarnation of God in the world is Jesus so he retconned him on one of his letters "hes not God brah"
@patrickcole2356
@patrickcole2356 2 ай бұрын
So - in this explanation- Bombadil is something like a fully enlightened Buddha. Beyond desire, simply enjoying existence in a sort of benign compassion.
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz Ай бұрын
He’s more like the western view of contentedness and joy. Not beyond or past desires as in enlightenment or nirvana, but content enjoyment in the simple desires of life.
@fransmith3255
@fransmith3255 Ай бұрын
Yes, that's what I see him as too. I think that's the kind of idea JRRT had in mind, even though he probably didn't know what an enlightened Buddha is.
@CB-ke7eq
@CB-ke7eq Ай бұрын
​@@fransmith3255The man was an Oxford scholar and professor, I'm certain he had an understanding of Buddhism and it's central tenets.
@fransmith3255
@fransmith3255 Ай бұрын
@@CB-ke7eq He might have. I don't know. But Buddhism was not exactly generally well known about at all in the west at that time.
@CB-ke7eq
@CB-ke7eq Ай бұрын
@@fransmith3255 Riiiight.
@891Henry
@891Henry 14 күн бұрын
I see Bombadil as Tolkien's homage to the countryside, his rose-tinted belief in the simple life of the past. He is the epitome of the very best of us when we leave the world alone to shine in its own glory, unaltered by the hand of man.
@SlartiMarvinbartfast
@SlartiMarvinbartfast 2 ай бұрын
After Goldberry replied "He is" to Frodo when he asked her who Tom is, she gave some further details: "He is, as you have seen him,’ she said in answer to his look. ‘He is the Master of wood, water, and hill.’ Frodo then asked: "Then all this strange land belongs to him?" "No indeed!" she answered, and her smile faded. "That would indeed be a burden,’ she added in a low voice, as if to herself. ‘The trees and the grasses and all things growing or living in the land belong each to themselves. Tom Bombadil is the Master. No one has ever caught old Tom walking in the forest, wading in the water, leaping on the hill-tops under light and shadow. He has no fear. Tom Bombadil is master."
@JLkeepinitrealdude
@JLkeepinitrealdude 2 ай бұрын
While it is a shame we don’t ever get to see him in film form- in a way, I feel that is a great positive. I fear *all* directors would do him little justice, and would present him as something either heavily inaccurate, or embarrassingly misinterpreted.
@Bhez7
@Bhez7 2 ай бұрын
Just look at what they did to Radagast in the Hobbit
@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836
@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836 Ай бұрын
​@@Bhez7 And Jackson turned Gimli into the comic relief, quite the opposite of his role in the books. I'm used to it now but at first it annoyed me. Lol.
@goobfilmcast4239
@goobfilmcast4239 Ай бұрын
Amazon is preparing to ruin him in the second season of The Rings of Power
@pizzaburgerparty
@pizzaburgerparty Ай бұрын
Rings of power 😐
@Mathemagical55
@Mathemagical55 Ай бұрын
I agree but he's going to be in Rings of Power played as an Irish leprechaun.
@shii5795
@shii5795 Ай бұрын
From my perspective, as I read the various books, he came off to me as the essence of Whimsy. He did because he desired to, but without goal or malice.
@davidioanhedges
@davidioanhedges Ай бұрын
He is middle earth...
@justjones5430
@justjones5430 Ай бұрын
Tom Bombadil, just seems like 'Brother Nature' to me. The Green Man of the Woods is maybe the inspiration for this character. 😊
@ricsouza5011
@ricsouza5011 Ай бұрын
Its Eru Illuvatar and later Tolkien thought it would be Heresy since the incarnation of God in the world is Jesus so he retconned him on one of his letters "hes not God brah"
@sweetloveelmo
@sweetloveelmo 18 күн бұрын
900 year old Yoda and ancient Tom Bombadil would understand each other very well. They both giggle and are beyond the drama bubble.....living embodiments of enlightenment.
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 ай бұрын
Notice everything that crosses your path. If they have need, help them to the best of your ability. And _never_ forget to enjoy your path as often as you can.
@randomgrinn
@randomgrinn 25 күн бұрын
I like, "everything" rather than, "everyone". I do not understand why someone would arrogantly and ignorantly kill a spider rather than simply letting them outdoors. Help them to the best of your ability.
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 25 күн бұрын
@@randomgrinn Thanks, I was deliberate in my word selection. I'm happy to coexist with all the creatures I run across and I leave them be. If necessary I do what I can to make their lives easier, I'm a sucker for feeding them in particular. I'm lucky to live where I now do (south central Oregon, near Ashland) in a small city with lots of native wildlife. We have beautiful red-striped garter snakes in our backyard, and I've trained our cats (who only go out on leashes or static leads) that our snake buddies are not prey. Our second youngest enjoys lying down near one of their nests just to watch them, and I have more than occasionally watched snakes slither around him hunting with no fear or concern. I use an old fashioned push mower and walk the yard before cutting the grass so I don't endanger them unnecessarily. I leave a couple of large dandelion patches spring to summer so our pollinators have a little something before everything really blooms. At our last place we had a wasp nest in the backyard. In the spring I'd put out sugar water with shredded meat in it to feed them in their early developmental stage. The nest endured about 12 years until the big apian die-off hit; in all that time not once was any person or pet stung, they were quite tame when simply left alone. I've found that in most cases people are easy. Almost all simply want their existence acknowledged, even something as simple as a wave and a smile, a pleasant greeting, whatever is appropriate, goes miles. Apologies for going on and on. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts. 😁
@as3609
@as3609 17 күн бұрын
@@randomgrinn Ah, irony: if you 'let' a house-spider outdoors, you've ignorantly killed it as surely as if you stepped on it, and pat yourself on the back for your benevolence.
@hughmann9568
@hughmann9568 7 күн бұрын
​​@@as3609That's major false equivalence. "House spiders" don't exist. Just a spider in a House. 😂 How can you rationalize its not benevolence by allowing it to live further? Because it will die eventually? EVERYTHING THAT EVER LIVED WILL DIE. Period. No exceptions. While the person doesn't deserve sainthood for it, calling it malevolence or as you put it IRONY is also ignorant. Ye all moral KZbin crusader.
@andrewbrown9308
@andrewbrown9308 Ай бұрын
I'm glad they ommited him from the movie, but also I'd love to see him be played by Brian Blessed
@lab483
@lab483 Ай бұрын
Indeed Brian Blessed just is
@ScooterDoge
@ScooterDoge Ай бұрын
You’ll get to see him shamed in august.
@majkus
@majkus Ай бұрын
Brian Blessed was exactly my dream-cast actor for Bombadil for a long time! Of course, he's too old now to play the role, except as a voice actor, I suppose. In any case, the 'casting game' tells us more about the people playing the game (us) and how we see the characters than it tells us about the characters. Other people imagined Robin Williams in the role, for example.
@rcrawford42
@rcrawford42 Ай бұрын
Turn Tom into the Genie from Aladdin? No thanks.
@jaakkomantyjarvi7515
@jaakkomantyjarvi7515 Ай бұрын
@@rcrawford42 Have you ever seen Robin Williams in a drama role? Goofiness was only part of his performer persona, and he well understood the characters he played.
@XxAzraelGTxX
@XxAzraelGTxX Ай бұрын
a silly thought just popped up while watching the video, Gandalf bringing Pipe Weed to the undying lands, and becoming a farmer of sorts just to have a good smoke here and there.
@ThisGM
@ThisGM Ай бұрын
It's hinted that Samwise might have been permitted to go West as a Ring-Bearer, I'm sure he'd be happy to help out. You can imagine the two of them and Yavanna having a grand old time, it'd be a fitting retirement for him.
@joanmilton9986
@joanmilton9986 2 ай бұрын
I guess I missed the old video, but I've been binging everything and was literally wondering, just yesterday, where he was! I watched the movies before I read the Lord of the Rings. I absolutely fell in love with the book through Tom. I've read that he is the physical representation of the world itself. "Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow, Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow. None has ever caught him yet, for Tom, he is the master: His songs are the stronger songs, and his feet are faster."
@OBieWolfMan-v5g
@OBieWolfMan-v5g Ай бұрын
Hey! Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo... through wood and...something I read the books in HS, 2000-2004. Love that guy!!
@adamoneale4396
@adamoneale4396 Ай бұрын
His pants need oxi-clean and his socks are yellow?
@tattsenglee733
@tattsenglee733 21 күн бұрын
One of the best if not the best explanation of who or what Tom Bombadil is meant to be by Tolkien. Thank you!
@The-Random-Hamlet
@The-Random-Hamlet Ай бұрын
As my father once said, "He is the embodiment of the world's joy."
@Armakk
@Armakk Ай бұрын
Best take I've ever heard on this enigma. The framing of LOTR as "two factions, one good one evil, seeking control" and TB as a being uninterested in control, is brilliant.
@iainballas
@iainballas Ай бұрын
I like to think that when Gandalf showed up at Tom's place, Tom already had a chair and a pipe ready for him... and they mostly sat in silence for a few months, occasionally commenting on something, before parting ways. They both seem the sort to just enjoy quiet company. Gandalf was only ever active as he was because of his job. I think it's obvious why he loved the shire: That's the place Gandalf wanted to live and exist in. A place to observe and enjoy the world around. Tom was everything Gandalf aspired to be. Certainly not his power, but what he WAS: Relaxation and enjoyment of life.
@davidioanhedges
@davidioanhedges Ай бұрын
The few words Tom said to Gandalf, were carefully considered for a few thousand years ... Then...
@jemhoare2105
@jemhoare2105 18 күн бұрын
Gandalf, just sitting there in a Valinor temp agency waiting for his number to come up.
@LEGOMANIAC419
@LEGOMANIAC419 2 ай бұрын
“Why do we leave the ring with Tom Bombadil?” “I mean, sure, he seems immune to the Ring, but can you really expect him to keep track of it?”
@davidduke7076
@davidduke7076 Ай бұрын
Man, among many excellent analyses, this one of yours stands tall among them.
@die141
@die141 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for making these Robert. Brilliant insight into LoTRs
@mlc4495
@mlc4495 16 күн бұрын
Tom Bombadil is Switzerland. While everyone is away fighting he's chilling.
@shongueesha7875
@shongueesha7875 10 күн бұрын
F switzerland.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 ай бұрын
Tom Bombadil is the light by which to measure the darkness.
@jamesdreads7828
@jamesdreads7828 Ай бұрын
🧀
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz Ай бұрын
I’ve always thought of Bombadill and Ungoliant the spider as opposite ideas personified. He is content, joyful, and at peace. She is never satiated, greedy, and a void of emptiness.
@rankovasek1987
@rankovasek1987 Ай бұрын
@@Nathan-vt1jz That makes a lot of sense. I never thought of it that way, but I thought that Tom really is something similar to Ungoliant. Something, or someone not created by Eru and Ainur. Another creature of the void, just like Ungoliant and other beings older than age we don't hear much about. It's just that they are different in what they do, Ungoliant was dark, evil, angry and Tom joyful and enjoying the moment. I've thought that there probably are many more of these "spirits" if you can call them that way, both good and bad and that they just do not feel the need to interfere much with the world as it is. In the end, Ungoliant was never heard of after she fled, but she still is somewhere. Gandalf also mentioned "tunnels by beings older than the age" beneath Moria and from what I understood, these would have been scary enough to have Gandalf and Durin's Bane just flee without fighting each other and I don't think he was referring to Ungoliant herself. The watcher is rumored to be one of these as well I believe. It always left me wondering, how many of these good spirits are there and where they are, what do they do.
@Qubite93
@Qubite93 Ай бұрын
wrong! Tom Bombadil is beyond light and darkness.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 Ай бұрын
He can not be beyond Eru. He is the source of all. There might be a pre-creation, as hinted. Older and fouler things than orcs at the root of the world - and maybe some better than we know. A hidden part of the Music, maybe Eru’s own, and the Ainur know nothing of it.
@scottfitzpatrick1939
@scottfitzpatrick1939 Ай бұрын
I think being a WWI veteran and seeing the depths of cruilty to fellow humans Tom represents the peace and harmony that world war survivors aspire to. After living through an experience of ultimate darkness Tom represents transcending beyond desire and finding total acceptance, never living outside the immediate moment and experiencing appreciation when its a moment that feels good. Nothing bothers or concerns Tom, he doesnt worry about the future nor dwell on the past. Although he is an outlyer in the story's theme, i really apprechite him. He is a love letter to peace and harmony from a world war survivor ❤
@filosophik
@filosophik 9 күн бұрын
Superb script! Made my heart glow-merry-dol!
@drewschrep
@drewschrep 8 күн бұрын
In my humble opinion, Tom Bombadil represents the people reading the stories of Tolkien's works. We are experiencing and "living" in that world as we read it but we are not physically affected by it (i.e. we are also "outside" of it).
@michaelocchipinti8265
@michaelocchipinti8265 8 күн бұрын
Tom Bombadil and his arc was crucial to the LOTR, which is why Tolkien had him in there to begin with. The point is that there are places in Middle Earth that have peace and are not affected by battles and war. Tom B was above it all and had no concerns
@grimnar1976
@grimnar1976 Ай бұрын
that last picture where we see Sam, a sword in each fist, railing against the darkness is the absolute peak of inspiration
@peewee0224
@peewee0224 Ай бұрын
can you imagine robin Williams playing tom bombadil. that would have been a perfect addition to the trilogy
@thegreatgazoo7579
@thegreatgazoo7579 Ай бұрын
Great idea!
@gutocracker
@gutocracker Ай бұрын
I'm sad to hear that as today it's impossible.
@SNEAKJOB
@SNEAKJOB Ай бұрын
I feel like he would have portrayed the essence of the character as well as can be but I think it may have been too distracting
@peewee0224
@peewee0224 Ай бұрын
@@gutocracker don’t remind me, robin is the rare actor I actually got sad about his passing
@Elredion
@Elredion 14 күн бұрын
Absolutely perfect casting
@DrIanRubenstein
@DrIanRubenstein 10 күн бұрын
A masterful analysis, Robert. Bravo!
@insu_na
@insu_na Ай бұрын
I think the fact that he's not present in other adaptations strengthens my personal hypothesis that he's the creator of a completely different universe, staying in middle earth as a vacation of sorts. He could probably interfere, wipe all evil from middle earth etc., but that may upset the creator of middle earth's universe, who had plans for it after all. So he stays cordial and just keeps enjoying what he came there for. Him not being in other adaptations I'd interpret as a sign that these are not the universes he'd chosen to have his vacation in, they lack what he came there for, so he's not there.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 Ай бұрын
All under the One - could be.
@andreaven2287
@andreaven2287 15 күн бұрын
Tom Bombadil, being of joy and symbol of life simples beauties. What a gorgeous idea he is...
@lpluva1
@lpluva1 Ай бұрын
I like to think that if Ungoliant was the manifestation of the void and darkness then perhaps Tom is the manifestation of Arda and the light. It would explain how he came to-be seemingly when Arda did, why his only concern is for the natural world, and why he expresses himself through song. His melody is an echo of the Ainur, a song that will only end after the Dagor Dagorath, which I imagine he will be witness too. It feels true to me and it's a nice thought so I'm going with it.
@scragar
@scragar Ай бұрын
This is how I think of it too. It explains a lot about his character and why things like the ring don't matter to him, they're so insignificant compared to the song of creation. The ring can't change the song, but the song can't just unmake the ring(as an object created through discord sewn into the song itself), so it's a sort of limbo where the ring can never be safe with him but has no power over him.
@d_mosimann
@d_mosimann Ай бұрын
What a nice interpretation, thank you. We all have to have some Tom Bombadil in our heart, and live becomes easier. Being in a Tom Bombadil mood even let us recognize the meaning and purpose of life itself: Just be (and enjoy).
@undercoverduck
@undercoverduck Ай бұрын
The Tom Bombadil segments are so vividly described in the book that I often forget they aren't part of most adaptations. I do think the segments are essential to the pacing of themes of the books. The only reason I don't mind their omission in the Peter Jackson adaptation is because that adaptation in general veers away from the themes and pacing that make Bombadil so essential in the books.
@terryleatherwood7427
@terryleatherwood7427 Ай бұрын
It is all very well to say that Tom is a comment or plot device employed by Tolkien to express some idea about nature and being at peace with the natural world. However, that leaves Tom as a loose end and most people like things to fit. No random elements, please. Therefore, in the spirit of making things fit, I will give my theory about Tom. Tom, and Goldberry, are both members of the Maiar. There are more Maiar than just the wizards, Sauron and Balrogs in Middle-Earth. Tom is a servant of Yavanna. He entered Middle-Earth very early, when the Valar was first forming it and its lifeforms. The reason that he “remembers the first acorn” is because he helped Yavanna to plant it. He was in Middle-Earth before the Elves awakened. When he says that he was there “before Melkor entered the World”, this is a reference to Melkor’s second entrance. Melkor was expelled from the World, for a while, but then managed to re-enter the World and stage his attack on the Two Trees. Tom’s comment means that he was already in Middle-Earth prior to the attack on the Two Trees, not that he pre-exists Melkor himself. Yavanna left Tom behind in Middle-Earth to keep an eye on the natural World. That is Tom’s duty rather than the contest between Good and Evil. Thus, we see Tom’s power over “Old Man Willow”, and other natural lifeforms, via the power of Yavanna. That is also why the ring does not affect Tom. He has no lust for power (that is simply not his duty) therefore, the ring can’t gain any hold over him. However, as Gandalf says, he cannot break the power of the ring over others. Just himself. He is his own master. Goldberry’s mission is similar. She is a servant of Ulmo (she is the River-Daughter) and her mission is to keep an eye on the rivers and streams of Middle-Earth for her master Ulmo. Both Tom and Goldberry had been in Middle-Earth for ages prior to their meeting up with each other. No doubt, they missed the company of other members of the Maiar. Therefore, it is not surprising that they formed a bond and union when they met each other in Middle-Earth. Note that the above concept fits Tom and Goldberry, very neatly, within the World of Middle-Earth. They are no longer “loose ends” which I find very satisfying.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 Ай бұрын
It fits most things, and is a serious theory. In it, no Maia has a duty to lust for power, but some succumb. Sauron and Saruman are two of those we know who succumbed. Why does Tom not, then? He is a Maia, too, in this theory. He is to watch over nature, but how does that make him immune? I note he has the power to command Old Man Willow; that seems like something the ring could use.
@terryleatherwood7427
@terryleatherwood7427 Ай бұрын
@@hoodatdondar2664 Tom is immune for a couple of reasons. One, his duty to watch over nature leaves him unconcerned about the battle for good versus evil. He is, in a way, "above" that struggle and, so, is above any lust for power. In addition, Tom's long service in Middle-Earth has given him a very "long-term" perspective. He has seen kingdoms come and go many times. He is likely, in fact, the oldest being, living continuously, in Middle-Earth. This long-term perspective also puts Tom above the lust for power. A lust for power is the lever that the Ring uses to control people. Gandalf said as much when he refused to take the Ring for himself. Gandalf would want to use the Power of the Ring for Good. But, any lust for power, even to do good, puts one under the control of the Ring. Tom is, absolutely, free of any lust for power. Even to do Good. His duty is not Good versus Evil. It is to protect and nourish nature. So, with no lust for power as a lever, the Ring is powerless over Tom. That is the source of his immunity.
@MisterOcclusion
@MisterOcclusion 27 күн бұрын
That satisfies me.
@WolfRamAndHart
@WolfRamAndHart 16 күн бұрын
This seems plausible. I would add, I think the videos conclusion, is correct also. Tolkien wanted an enigma, in his world', to help people understand to live their own life, perhaps get married to a soulmate, and not be distracted on what are usually petty concerns (the One Ring was serious though), and thus Tom was important to appreciate.
@CP-tm7be
@CP-tm7be 13 күн бұрын
Could be. I think if Tolkien were alive today and saw your explanation, he might nod and say "Plausible. Very plausible." Then go back to smoking his pipe.
@paperweight57
@paperweight57 Ай бұрын
BEST video I've seen on Tom Bombadil. Well done!
@ZetaFuzzMachine
@ZetaFuzzMachine Ай бұрын
5:55 its pretty clear to me that Tolkien is playing a joke on us! Its his first character, for sure he would be the eldest! I think he is just making a cameo in The Lord of the Rings, kinda like Arale in Dragon Ball
@feynthefallen
@feynthefallen 2 ай бұрын
I didn't pay much heed to Tom Bombadil when I first read the books. As you say, he comes across like the odd man out, like a foreign object, not even really a deus ex macchina. Knowing what I know now, I'd say he is the quintessential indifferent, insouciant overwhelming force. Unstoppable force were he aroused, yet also the immovable object in a whirling maelstrom of war and power struggle. The pillar of the hope that there is one small bit of the world unfazed by the overwhelming power of the enemy, that would remain when all else fails. In that sense, Tom Bombadil represents the hope for salvation, for the greater good that lives deep inside all of us. Maybe those who speculate he could be an incarnation of Manwe aren't far off.
@hoodatdondar2664
@hoodatdondar2664 Ай бұрын
You have interesting thoughts - but I remember Gandalfs guess. About how if all else failed, Bombadil would fall, Last as he was First, then, the Darkness. I always figured Olorin knew more than he was letting on.
@feynthefallen
@feynthefallen Ай бұрын
@@hoodatdondar2664 I guess it all depends at which level along, if not in the ranks of Ainur, Maiar and other races you want to place Tom Bombadil. Given the respect Gandalf has for him, we at least have to assume he is of equal standing to a Maiar, if he isn't secretly one of the Ainur, or, as some have speculated, an aspect of Eru Iluvatar himself. One might speculate that in the end, all that exists, i.e. everything but Eru Iluvatar would perish, and he would start a new song. And who could say exactly what Gandalf meant by those cryptic words? Would Tom fall last, because he would be the last to go down fighting, or would he simply chose to cease to exist, disgusted by a world no longer worth existing in?
@MrNicoJac
@MrNicoJac Ай бұрын
I like the notion of Tom Bombadil being a scribbled comment in the margins - an alternate reality mirror of what it would be to not even care about power at all...
@samuelfinnerty5767
@samuelfinnerty5767 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for enriching my experience of this world of Tolkien Robert. Been a pleasure reacquainting myself with Middle Earth after many years away, helped along by your thoughtful commentary
@MeanGene1983
@MeanGene1983 20 сағат бұрын
Thank you for this. I just read his chapter and it really helped frame him in my mind.
@miiicah8939
@miiicah8939 Күн бұрын
I got a strong Narcissus and Goldmund vibe by the end of your narrative. Tom being Narcissus to Gandalf the rolling stone, Goldmund.
@Conkee1711
@Conkee1711 5 күн бұрын
Boy I sure would have loved to be a fly on the wall for that last conversation between Gandalf and Tom!
@blightvoet
@blightvoet 7 күн бұрын
What a thoughtful, beautiful video. Thank you.
@aspromonte5179
@aspromonte5179 13 күн бұрын
I love the fact that Tolkien was writing about Tom well before he wrote anything about middle-earth, and he expresses that he has been around “since the beginning of time”.
@L_B_M_LandDownUnder
@L_B_M_LandDownUnder Ай бұрын
How interesting is this wonderful character. This is great information, thank you Robert.
@SnugglehPuppeh
@SnugglehPuppeh 2 ай бұрын
Before he created Dragon Ball, Akira Toriyama was most famous for a manga called Dr. Slump which featured a little robotic girl named Arale. Arale makes a cameo and participates in the story of Dragon Ball. She is just a fun nod to the author's previous work. I see Bombadil as the same. He's a nod to Tolkiens early poems and stories he told his family. If I wrote my kids some stories about their stuffed animals and then went on to become a famous author, and I included their animals in one of my stories for fun, I'd find it ironic if my fans wrote lengthy essays about how these stuffed animals represented God or were angels or something. I don't think this is any more complex than that.
@ssjmonstar
@ssjmonstar Ай бұрын
A gag character Unaffected by the established rules of the universe, they happened to be in Can even bend and break those rules
@Elredion
@Elredion 14 күн бұрын
But he's more important than that, because of what he represents. This video beautifully explains that
@flamboyentpromotions3471
@flamboyentpromotions3471 11 күн бұрын
Bombadil is a proto valar, the creator made him first then said nah i wanna create something a bit different an just left him in place
@jokervienna6433
@jokervienna6433 Ай бұрын
Yep, the difference between doing and being. I feel it is very important nowadays, and a very actual topic. For those that can afford it.
@BuckyUnderbelly
@BuckyUnderbelly 2 ай бұрын
Bombadil is a vibe.
@jjwubs1638
@jjwubs1638 Ай бұрын
Tom Bom-brat-dil
@as3609
@as3609 17 күн бұрын
@@jjwubs1638 Reported.
@AlbertCanil
@AlbertCanil 7 күн бұрын
Dear sir, having read the tetralogy for the first time 50 years ago (I have reread it more than once since then and plan to go through the four books yet again), plus being a Shakespearean Thespian and Voice Actor, I believe I'm qualified to remark your wonderful reading of the text for this video, with a musical lilt that makes it really come to life. I believe that congratulations are in order.
@haile308
@haile308 6 күн бұрын
To me, I theorise Tom represents the feeling of nostalgia. As we strive through our passage of time on this earth dealing with the good and evil that presents itself, I guess many of us also yearns for nostalgic moments in our lives. It is not significant in our daily grind, but important enough to shape our thoughts of deep desire. As we age many desire to marry and have kids, maybe to recreate our childhood nostalgia. The one ring corrupts most who wears it, as it represents many people's real desire of power in life, the desire of getting that dream job, promotion, body, partner, house etc. However there is one desire that is stronger than the one ring, and that is nostalgia. Tolkien is probably trying to say that through Tom. His strongest desire above fortune and fame, is his desire to relive his nostalgic moments in younger years by the country side. It is quite poetic. I guess in our last breadth on earth, our thoughts will travel to that nostalgic place, and that is powerful.
@Luspenchief
@Luspenchief 8 күн бұрын
Tom teaches me things about myself. thanks Bombadil and Deep geek
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 Ай бұрын
Many of us have wished the Hobbit trilogy was much improved and perhaps not even a trilogy but 2 movies. For my part, I think inserting Tom Bombadil into An Unexpected Journey helping Bilbo and the dwarves similar to how he rescued Frodo and company in the book would’ve lent to the more lighthearted, whimsical tone of the Hobbit films. Robin Williams would be the only actor I could see pulling it off. Am I crazy here?
@Corbearable
@Corbearable Ай бұрын
I felt odd and kind of sad that Bombadil wasn't added to the Peter Jackson movies. He represents an incredible level of saint-like enlightenment and Zen-like transcendence from the cares and attachments of the world that weigh so heavily and dramatically on all the other characters of the story. This makes him a delightful and needed counterweight to the oppressive, distressing darkness that pervades the Lord of the Rings. Calling him a nature spirit seems rather reductionist as well. When reading the trilogy I found an incredible fascination with Bombadil's presence and an upliftment of spirit knowing that he existed in the Tolkien canon. I suppose I understand why he's called "problematic" for movie producers, but the irony is that he embodies what Middle Earth is when its greatest problems are solved. He is the heart of Middle Earth.
@TheLeadhound
@TheLeadhound 2 ай бұрын
He is a merry fellow Bright blue his jacket is And his boots are yellow
@kentvesser9484
@kentvesser9484 Ай бұрын
Worf in Star Trek: I am not a Merry Man.
@adamstewart5188
@adamstewart5188 Ай бұрын
His songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.
@Freekymoho
@Freekymoho Ай бұрын
Tom bombadil just feels like an easter egg that you're not supposed to think too much about. It's almost like he's more there for the benefit of Tolkien's kids than anything else
@Artofficial1986
@Artofficial1986 25 күн бұрын
Tom Bombadil is actually me. Tom Bombadil is you too. The real lesson is the Tom Bombadil's we made along the way.
@elijahkatz5083
@elijahkatz5083 Ай бұрын
In all my years of loving the Legendarium and pondering the enigma of Bombadil, this is perhaps the most satisfying exploration of the character I’ve heard. Thanks for sharing these thoughts!
@xliquidflames
@xliquidflames 21 күн бұрын
The Old Forest and Tom's house are my favorite part of the early Lord of The Rings Online story quests. That and Weathertop. But meeting Tom and Goldberry in-game for thr first time is one of my fondest memories of playing that game.
@MKeller4033
@MKeller4033 Ай бұрын
One of your more brilliant presentations. Well done, Robert!
@bugsby4663
@bugsby4663 Ай бұрын
He reminds me of the ghost of Christmas present. He is a stout, hearty fellow who lives only in the moment.
@mattborba1340
@mattborba1340 Ай бұрын
One of my favorite videos from this channel. Really great stuff.
@chrisregister8021
@chrisregister8021 13 күн бұрын
Tom Bombadil is the best version of ourselves...
@thenerdfaraway
@thenerdfaraway Ай бұрын
Thanks for the reminder, Robert! I didn't realize I needed to hear that today. ❤
@rafaelgustavo7786
@rafaelgustavo7786 2 ай бұрын
The Avatar of Arda.
@katherinegraham3803
@katherinegraham3803 Ай бұрын
This is my take too: he is the personification of Arda unmarred by Melkor's corrupting influence. It's why he can command the barrow wight to leave the barrows or make Old Man Willow release the Hobbits and go to sleep - he has the power to set things back to their "right" state. It's also why the Ring has no power over him. It is his nature to be uncorrupted.
@systemicthinking
@systemicthinking 12 күн бұрын
As a child I hated Tom Bombadil. The idea of so much power and not putting it to any use. Then, as I have got older and more powerful, I have realised that power to change things is dangerous to execute, because even doing something righteous often stirs up much greater things in opposition, which in the end make the original intent pointless. Now, in my final years, I feel closer and closer to Tom. It is very rare that I intervene in the World beyond my garden, and when I do it is with the humility of knowing whatever I do could end up undoing itself. "Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing." Macbeth
@nicodemusedwards6931
@nicodemusedwards6931 Ай бұрын
Tom Bombadil is. That’s it. Complete sentence. He simply is.
@davidjones5269
@davidjones5269 Ай бұрын
He's also first
@ricsouza5011
@ricsouza5011 Ай бұрын
in the bible that refers to God.
@ricsouza5011
@ricsouza5011 Ай бұрын
@@davidjones5269 aka God. but tolkien regretted it and thought it would be heresy against jesus (the only incarnation of God in the Bible) and retconned his idea on one of his letters
@markbay9275
@markbay9275 9 күн бұрын
Bombadil was an epic bard in all legendary gear.
@simeon9506
@simeon9506 Ай бұрын
The fact Tom Bombadil videos get so many views shows how much we want to see him in adaptations, I think. Personally, I loved him in The Battle for Middle-earth 2 video game.
@marcharley6465
@marcharley6465 Ай бұрын
This is by far the best exploration of Tom Bombadil that I've seen on facebook. Well done, In Deep Geek.
@monicabritt3769
@monicabritt3769 8 күн бұрын
I wonder if Tom Bombadil is a physical ‘earthly’ representation of Eru Illuvitar? He was before everything. Untouched by anything. Wandering and enjoying all of creation.
@r0bw00d
@r0bw00d Ай бұрын
I don't know, why, but every time I think about Tom, the first verse of "The Ballad of Davy Crockett" always gets stuck in my head.
@Calvinosaur
@Calvinosaur Ай бұрын
King of the Wild Frontier
@majkus
@majkus Ай бұрын
Actually, the 'Ballad of Bilbo Baggins' (sung by Leonard Nimoy) scans almost exactly to the 'Davy Crockett' song. It was not composed much later than the Disney show, and I feel almost certain that this is what the lyricist had in mind as he wrote it. "Bilbo! Bilbo Baggins!' is just too close to "Davy! Davy Crockett" as the first line of a chorus to be wholly accidental.
@r0bw00d
@r0bw00d Ай бұрын
@@majkus Interesting comparison. I'm aware of Leonard's performance but never made the connection...not consciously, at least, anyway.
@The_Jam_of_Love
@The_Jam_of_Love Ай бұрын
I like to think Bombadil is also the embodiment of joy of positivity in Middle Earth and the chance encounter with the hobbits could also signify to them subconsciously what’s at stake, should Sauron reclaim the ring, that even the immense joy that is Tom Bombadil would eventually falter under Sauron’s darkness
@StMyles
@StMyles 18 күн бұрын
Tom is how JRR’S sees himself in the history of the world he created.
@MustAfaalik
@MustAfaalik 18 күн бұрын
YES!😊
@Parocha
@Parocha Ай бұрын
The quote “last as he was first” takes on an interesting meaning considering Tom exists before the books about the Rings were written (for Tolkien created Tom first)
@njvalueinvestor
@njvalueinvestor 14 күн бұрын
So wonderful and refreshing.
@Just_Lars
@Just_Lars Ай бұрын
I like to think that Tom Bombadil and his realm were a sort of mental refuge. A place that has its own dangers, but is unaffected by all the things going on around it. A place where you can (mentally) return to when it all just gets too much. And I think it was as much intended for the readers, as it was for himself while writing. It is easy to get enveloped by the doom the story slowly builds up, especially when following the story of the Hobits. But in such moments, you can remember Tom Bombadil and his realm, and just enjoy the warm, fuzzy feeling that the description of it build up.
@VHavengrad
@VHavengrad Ай бұрын
Someone made a AI animated slide show about alternate actors for LOTR, and while most of it was whimsy there was one that stuck out that seemed so apt it made me cry. Robin Williams as Tom Bombadil.
@K4inan
@K4inan Ай бұрын
That made you cry? Are you 6?
@cris_ad
@cris_ad Ай бұрын
@@K4inan That's a weird thing to take the time to type out.
@leonardpaulson
@leonardpaulson Ай бұрын
Definitely better than my initial pick, Joe Pesci
@meganofsherwood3665
@meganofsherwood3665 Ай бұрын
Oh. Oh my 😢
@tibiademon9157
@tibiademon9157 Ай бұрын
@@K4inan This is not a merry fellow
@richpeltier9519
@richpeltier9519 24 күн бұрын
"Oh Tom, he's just zis guy, ya know?" Z. Halfrunt
@tishie42
@tishie42 23 күн бұрын
Don't vote for stupid... 😂42
@austinwarden9148
@austinwarden9148 Ай бұрын
This is the video I've been wanting to see get remade!
@ThaoLe-xv1di
@ThaoLe-xv1di 14 күн бұрын
He’s a passive god that rules in the state of free will, watching and waiting as both sides paths unfold and collide.
@BobMacay
@BobMacay 10 күн бұрын
Mother nature in human form kinda
@diegoshevek5927
@diegoshevek5927 14 күн бұрын
Nice touch reminding us of Ursula K Le Guin!
@jordanvickaryous-remenda876
@jordanvickaryous-remenda876 Ай бұрын
0:57 I love the wat Rob says Tom Bom-ba-dil!
@anthonyprioletti7800
@anthonyprioletti7800 Күн бұрын
Im here from universes beyond to learn about my commander. (Magic the gathering) Thank you for this lore video!
@bigmike2464
@bigmike2464 17 сағат бұрын
I was very happy Rings of Power have Tom in the series
@Ddddddddddd381
@Ddddddddddd381 Ай бұрын
Who is Tom bombadil? My favourite character that was cut out of the movies
@antongalamba9296
@antongalamba9296 14 күн бұрын
amazing story - thank you !
@Malisman77
@Malisman77 15 күн бұрын
He is simply Eru. Eru unburdened by the creation of the universe. Like Eru he sings, he can seemingly revert things to original form (as Eru intended) is not affected by great evil...
@flavorwise3511
@flavorwise3511 19 күн бұрын
Tom Bombadil seems to have been a direct inspiration from L. Frank Baum's 'The Patchwork Girl of Oz'. (1913) Specifically, 'The Shaggy Man", one of Oz's major side characters. The Shaggy Man's first appearance in 'The Patchwork Girl of Oz' is of him arriving, whistling a tune, just in time to save a munchkin boy (hobbit) from a man-eating plant (old man willow). Sound familiar? I'll just lie my mic here on the floor gently.
@donweatherwax9318
@donweatherwax9318 19 күн бұрын
"Patchwork" not "Pathwork". (Also: I 100% agree with your theory.) (Also²: The _Oz_ books effing rule, and L. Frank Baum rocks.)
@flavorwise3511
@flavorwise3511 19 күн бұрын
@@donweatherwax9318 Thanks for the spell check! (looks like I butchered 'whistling' as well! lol) Nice to meet a fellow Oz-beyond-the-movie fan!
@donweatherwax9318
@donweatherwax9318 19 күн бұрын
@flavorwise3511 The truly disastrous box office returns of _Return to Oz_ caused two tragedies. First, it cut short the directing career of Walter Murch, one of the last great living pioneers of the film medium. And second, it gave Baum's _Oz_ sequels the undeserved reputation of being "box office poison". Oh, well. At least we got a really cool Scissor Sisters song out of it!
@xina968
@xina968 Ай бұрын
Love this one! Thank you Robert ❤
@sirris4330
@sirris4330 Ай бұрын
Tom bombadil represents the projection in words of everything Tolkien wishes he could be in real life. Not what he is or even what he thinks what he should be. But a subconscious reflection
@nickcastings1568
@nickcastings1568 Ай бұрын
Tom Bombadil proves you can be both Knowledgeable & simple, a happy carefree soul!
@def1ghi
@def1ghi Ай бұрын
This is very good and I've heard similar theories: Tom Bombadil as Trappist, praying eternally in the present for the salvation of the world.
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