INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Clip - "Moon Base" (2016)

[@edwalgino1]

If you're gonna shoot... shoot. Don't make countdowns.

[@ThatRandomChannelTRC]

That shit me in the cinema.

[@phaestor]

Everyone that starts a countdown should be shot on principle.

[@Spookssga]

Thats writers for ya. They love their countdowns

[@williammorris4327]

Tuco definitely should have been in charge

[@fixitdad1955]

@@williammorris4327 My Man, I was thinking the same damn thing after reading the comment!!! That was awesome! 🤣

[@Shadowkey392]

You know what's really stupid? We find out later that they also reverse-engineered the aliens' energy shield technology...and put it on a truck instead of on their actual important bases.

[@bobshanery5152]

@@averyvaliant The fact we could just magically "reverse engineer" alien technology like that is nothing else but absurd. It has not been that long between the last war and we are already flying in space, using shields and alien guns (Around 20 years we did all this?). We would more likely still be trying to rebuild from the last invasion and not reverse engineering alien technology. The war from the first one would of wiped out most of the population by either the aliens themselves or the destruction to natural resources they did. Really was looking forward to this movie but its a D rated movie at best.

[@Dweller415]

😂😂😂

[@sumerd-l8j]

@@averyvaliant cities not important, reverse engineer harvester tech

[@martinsimeonov1563]

@@bobshanery5152 you not really right. They had no time to destroy natural resources since their attack was not nuclear neither radioactive. In the end instead,they left 27 destroyed ships on the earth's surface, all waiting to be srapped, so TONS of NEW materials instead. Also if you know such monsters exist,you would really hurry up to reverse engineer. Wich is much easier than invent. 20 years is definitely possible, under the appropriate conditions... lets say 1000 teams of scentist for each of the techonologies, would succed within that time. What i dont believe is that there qould be so much new skyscrapers and flying shit on earth.

[@kinngrimm]

@@bobshanery5152 if every filmmaker would go for realism, we would have had a lot of really boring movies

[@minicooper2572]

The biggest weapon the enemy ever has is our own countdown 😏

[@YourOldUncleNoongah]

hahahahahahahaha yes!!!!!!!!!!!!! reactors that need time to prime, but can readily be used at 35% and shields that works BUT only when they need to provide plot armour! hahaha.

[@asilvap]

deus ex machina. Otherwise movies would last shorter.

[@philipchenmba]

Counting down before you shoot is like telling your enemy how many seconds they have to shoot you first.

[@Willisawesome-u7s]

Fair point😅

[@Phoenixesper1]

1:21 "Ships more then 3,000 miles in diameter....how the hell did we miss this?!" In the immortal words of Billy Bob Thorton from armagedon "begging your pardon sir, but its a big ass sky!"

[@chedderburg]

Jupiters moons are under 2000 miles in diameter. And you can see those with the naked eye. So we would easily see this coming assuming it didn’t worm hole or ftl

[@CosmicFoxbat]

If you look carefully during the first seconds of this video, you can see that the ship has a cloaking device that had been activated previously. It's similar to yautja ships. That's the reason why mankind wasn't able to see it until it deactivated its cloaking.

[@armorpro573]

@@CosmicFoxbat But why deactivate now when they could steathily sneak up to Earth

[@connortg5]

@@armorpro573 a: plot convenience (the likely answer) b: powering things is not free, especially not when you're powering something covering a 3000 mile wide space ship, and thus they would only power it when necessary, by this point not only are they probably close enough to earth to have been able to send scouts to determine if our tech rivaled theirs, which it still didn't, but they are also ripping apart the moon as they travel past it, and the moon is both earth's closest off-planet base but also clearly visible from earth, meaning that the people of earth are most likely fully aware that something is almost upon them by this point, making the cloaking tech fairly pointless (the more logical answer) especially when you consider that the whole point of their journey to earth is to harvest the core for energy, so they're not gonna waste energy on something if it isn't worth it

[@armorpro573]

@@connortg5 Well that makes a bit of sense, though I find it unnecessary that they had to send in a 3,000 mile ship and park it on top of Earth.

[@skell_chr26]

Ah yes, the goddamn countdown got us again

[@johnclaudetaylor5224]

lol just fkn shoot XD

[@randybobandy9828]

It wasn't a count down to fire the weapon...it was a count down to when the weapon was charged enough to be fired. Nothing could have sped it up.

[@dailyrider2975]

"Aliens sighted!" "OK, automated satellite defense activate" "Well, about that, it's not really automated in that it needs to be told to activate." "Send the order then" "Ah well you see, Bob is the guy designated to give that order and well he had a really spicy chimichanga for lunch but should be back in plenty of time....."

[@perfectionbox]

The writers couldn't let those cool defense satellites get off even a single shot... geez. 🙄

[@thomas.parnell7365]

That and not even a single earth prototype weapons of less powerful but human built technology .not just built around

[@fixitdad1955]

@@thomas.parnell7365 Your Grammar is impressive... Eat any good books lately? 😆

[@thomas.parnell7365]

@@fixitdad1955 only mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson which I will admit some of its hard to follow .

[@fixitdad1955]

@@thomas.parnell7365 That's great. However, I was joking about your Grammar and the way you put that small paragraph together in response to the first original comment. Give it a proof read and you'll hopefully see what I mean. As far as the book, sounds like a good read so I will check it out. Thanks.

[@roryedward2631]

Not only that...but why wasnt the orbital defense grid shielded? The fighter jets are much smaller and they had shields. they knew the harvesters were gonna come back at some point...you would think their defense grid would be highly.. defended. Lmao

[@NordicSnowhammer]

They need to make an Independence Day Resurgence and Rise of Skywalker crossover movie so we can expand the level of dumbness to infinity. Just to see what happens.

[@albay543]

lol

[@michaelversace456]

Throw in predator with Autistic telepaths and you have a pretty good example of idiocy.

[@rayparkerjrr]

The Star Destroyers in ROS can one-shot planets, and they're way smaller than this mothership but able to destroy things 1000 times their own size, and there are 1000s of them. But yeah, a crossover would be strange and full of stupid logic lol

[@marksmith3947]

Next time the alien needs to be a protected minority and they let earth die in order to be politically correct

[@NordicSnowhammer]

@@marksmith3947 I sense the dark side in you.

[@TigercatDesign]

I never believed anyone could make an action movie with spaceships that I would actively hate. Then this came out.

[@predetor911]

Have you ever seen Skyline?

[@jimmy03827]

Am I weird for enjoying this movie? :(

[@mycroft16]

The sad thing is, this is still a significantly more believable and better movie than Moonfall.

[@HowlerBarca]

@@jimmy03827 absolutely not. Enjoy it. But make no mistake, this movie is a dumpster fire floating in a pool of shit.

[@80s_Boombox_Collector]

Not to mention a fighter pilot chick who looks like she's happy when she's supposed to be scared

[@mek86]

They should have had them send another ship the same size as the one before to attack earth, only to have the earth defenses destroy it. THEN , send in the Queen's ship.

[@Maramara13Fly]

that would've been awesome. it will show that Earth could've handled a normal invasion like last time with ease, but not with a dreadnought like that...

[@thomas.parnell7365]

They had 20 years and this flawed thing is the best they can do with a story

[@toddkes5890]

I was hoping it would be a case of "The first time, we found out they were Locusts, harvesting as they traveled. This time, we find out what they were running from"

[@thomas.parnell7365]

@@toddkes5890 something like. The brethren moons from dead space but less insidious and beyond ability to destroy .a story line involving the harvesters having to put aside their differences with humans to Fight alongside to defeat a superior enemy would have been powerful .be like 1 year from collapse ww2 Germany joining with the allies if say China and Russia and Japan teamed up last minute to attack the allies

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

@@toddkes5890 What's sad is a week after I saw the first one in the theaters during initial release, I actually wrote a draft of a story that was damn near identical to this with a few differences....but even then I realized it would have been a crap story. lol

[@Dweller415]

@@technewsfortechnoobs nah, the follow up story had promise but there’s too much cheesy nonsense in this rendition. I’m certain your version would have been better.

[@CFRF13]

It's not like they were working on the sequel the entire 20 years, more like leafing through the classic film catalogue to see which one they could grab a few nostalgia dollars off of next for a CGI infused sequel.

[@connortg5]

considering that the last blast they did didn't even make it through the ship's shields, i'm guessing the synchronised countdown was on the assumption that none of them would make it through if they fired individually, so they planned to all hit the same point at the same time to try and break through the shield... of course, that didn't work because the countdown was too slow, but if that's the logic then it was definitely a good idea

[@HowlerBarca]

This movie does not exist. They never made a sequel to Independence Day.

[@Mayan_88694]

It does exist, and it’s a sequel

[@Mayan_88694]

The movie does exist and it’s the sequel. Your denial doesn’t change that

[@moycorbin4750]

This is just an asylum ripoff

[@devilmaythink]

💯

[@Myself_here]

Yes they did, your watching it right now

[@nukepuke932]

What sort of alien queen scrapes her ride on a moon?

[@ThatRandomChannelTRC]

lol

[@predetor911]

Female drivers…..it’s universal man.

[@derricktaylordavid1393]

Coneheads did it first

[@DrKO2453]

Another movie that proves not all movies need a sequel

[@thedoomslayer3266]

Even though this was a terrible movie I really enjoyed seeing it with my father because he showed me the first Independence Day movie and when we went to see this in theaters it was a great father and son moment for me and him.

[@Scarletraven87]

It's not the countdown that gets me. It's this scene: 1:55 Baricentre vs propellers... Useless, cheap suspance. A scene that could've been cut. Oh and also "Evacuate!" To where? You're on the moon.

[@NyuuMikuru1]

Not only that, the ship scraping the surface of the moon down to a few kilometers so no where to escape to.

[@randyangel9412]

Crazy how the media and stuff have made this movie disappear lol

[@broodyhenloloa]

4:50 only in Hollywood they do a countdown in that situation.

[@albay543]

4:37 the look of the main mothership energy cannon as it is charging up is really awesome, the part where it fires is so cool 4:43 it can just lock onto multiple targets at once, i remember drawing that when i was nine years old, very cool 😎

[@sahitya7603]

Imagine starting a countdown to shoot your enemy then complaining you died without getting a chance to shoot.🤦

[@jimmy03827]

Actually the countdown wasn’t to shoot the enemy, it was to when the charging was finished. There was no way to speed it up.

[@albay543]

4:38 this tri parted energy cannon is really awesome

[@briankidd1509]

They really need to remake this film. So much potential and I'll be happy to do it with Roland Emmerich.

[@Starfighter-nk4mo]

Ah yes, fighters flying like planes in near complete vacuum.

[@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor]

With antigravity it might be possible

[@Felix0587]

The people who write movies nowadays deserve to lose their jobs. Its mind boggling that no one has the guts to tell them "no, thats ridiculous, your idea is stupid".

[@DAndyLord]

I watched this movie on a porch in NS during a torrential downpour super high on E with my ex.

[@ensignmjs7058]

Weren't there other orbital defense systems?

[@lima6638]

There was, just not facing the ship.

[@jacobvelasquez8494]

0:18 when first seeing godzilla earth in planet of the monsters.

[@royalfly12]

The Death Star evens fires in less time than those satellites

[@optombomber2980]

DECEPTICONS ARE ENTERING OUR ATMOSPHERE!!!

[@Leondrius]

More like Unicron.

[@Izzyduude]

The alien ship doesn’t even need to fire anything. Fly close enough to the earth and it’s size alone with its gravity will cause earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes to erupt and destroy the planet. But that would a 27 minute movie and no one wants that.

[@mechax1]

You have to realize most of the ship is hollow so it wouldn’t have a lot gravity but it could make the make the earth have less than 1g of force on you

[@ymxjack]

1:36 "Ship's more than 3000 miles in diameter" well, earth's 8000 miles in diameter, somethings not right

[@DeusJensenGaming]

its mere presence near the earth would cause a mass extinction through tidal forces

[@LeongGunners]

A good way to raise the stakes for the sequel would be for the aliens to come back with better ships, better weapons, and maybe better anti-virus. But no no no, for Hollywood it is always "let's just make everything bigger".

[@ronjacob9242]

The directors idea on the first film was good since will smith was on it. And I don't know what gotten to his mind to make this second film.

[@spockmcoyissmart961]

Money got into his mind

[@khymaaren]

I don't think that whether Will Smith is in a movie or not is in any way indicative of its quality...

[@DeltaSierra181]

They should have just built an orbiting shield for the entire planet earth. A second one could be built on the moon, to capture objects and if deemed dangerous, the shield could be shrunk down to something the size of a marble and shot into the sun.

[@eelo216]

the cannons destroy shields

[@eelo216]

but yeah thats stupid

[@kairoward7738]

Against a shit that size all humans are dead anyway

[@captainfalcon3036]

Can we talk about the cyan light of the shields and the laser missiles? It's damn beautiful😅🤩

[@randybobandy9828]

That's not cyan... it's too green to be cyan.

[@80s_Boombox_Collector]

You mean the same color they use for all alien tech in almost every scifi movie?

[@Blagger3000]

3,000 miles in diameter - How did we miss this Yeah OK dohhhhh!

[@kamranashique7229]

That's almost 5,000 km💀...

[@captainfalcon3036]

I wonder why a spaceship that big needs deflector shields?😂 It sure is heavily armed and armoured so why?😅

[@FunkyDouch3000]

in real life even tiny debris the size of mllimeters can inflict serious damage to spacecraft. the extreme velocities involved gives objects hurtling through space immense kinetic energy. if you have the opportunity to create shields, why would you not? The mothership is far too big to dodge incoming projectiles, and it's always best to mitigate damage if you can.

[@captainfalcon3036]

@@FunkyDouch3000 good point. Didn't tought about that

[@DennisOppermann]

4:55 That Face he make says: What the Hell am i doing in this Movie? The first Movie was better by a lot.

[@moebetta4224]

What a joke of a film. It really should be marketed as a comedy. Judd Hirschs' ridiculous ethnic parody reminds me of a 1970's era Mel Brooks satire.

[@albay543]

This whole sequence was really cool

[@hmrafi2920]

Does anyone notice that they used one of interstellar background music and it actually blended with the scene.Its actually good.

[@dragosdesign4563]

I think we're running out of reasons for the aliens to invade us...

[@khymaaren]

There hasn't been a single theoretically plausible scenario in the history of cinema.

[@KawaiiSoulB42]

1:30 Long range scanners put up a a enemy Titan on the way to Earth.

[@karelsurya4809]

4:39 humans look like a pack of idiots when they counting down (and not just shoot right away) to shoot a freaking huge alien spaceship that surely is a huge threat

[@leewriter4656]

Where did all the sound come from? It's SPACE!

[@SimonCrazyCatGaudet]

From Sci-Fi Space Opera logic. ;)

[@beckonerseven9517]

Actually there is sound in space, it's more accurate to say *human ears* don't work in a vacuum. Sound is just vibration, which is created by kinetic energy which can travel through space (otherwise rocket engines wouldn't be able to generate thrust).

[@leewriter4656]

@@beckonerseven9517 OMG SHUT UP! Can someone tell me why there are people like this? Always trying to "Professor" people... and with stupid shit!

[@lindsaymonroe567]

@@leewriter4656 its not stupid, I enjoyed the explanation. You however are an idiot. You asked a question then get mad that you got a legitimate answer? How mature LMAO

[@417Owsy]

@@leewriter4656 >asks for an answer >gets answer >gets pissed off

[@meetdogblack8277]

Wow I’ve never heard of this movie.

[@meetdogblack8277]

@Martin Cantiberry hahaha

[@doobadood]

No way thats A train on the plane

[@Corporal_Hicks]

I love this movie!

[@K3Flyguy]

Don't count down, just push the dam button already! You don't count down to shoot a gun, you just pull the trigger. You don't count down to bust a load, you just let it fly! You don't count down your only real weapon, you just use it! Oh wait, in movies you do...

[@fernandoalberto8351]

Second parts... A kick in the boot for some fine movies...

[@sidpheasant7585]

Never more so than in this case.

[@JanasZoro]

best color palette for laser beam ever

[@williamlynn14]

This movie has some problems but I hope they make a third one, where they help the eva robot eye fight the harvesters on that planet.

[@80s_Boombox_Collector]

Does that fighter pilot chick have only one expression?

[@lamario295]

Seriously, the claw machine and shitty controls are the best they could design for a goddamn spaceship

[@nickolassmaltz9546]

4:50 : Generals New Orders "Bring me my brown pants."

[@TemplarX2]

1:10. Is that joke? How weak is that guy? He is on the moon where gravity is extremely low and yet he can't pull himself up.

[@Gwydion_Wolf]

Inertia? and in space, Sir Isaac Newton is god? Depending on how much forward thrust that ship's creating, it'd be hard to push yourself 'up' from the floor of it, even if that floor is the ramp. Granted, magical gravity fields lets the people in the cockpit area walk around like nothing... but chalk that up to either the field not extending to the ramp... or just movie-magic :P

[@TemplarX2]

@@Gwydion_Wolf Inertia? do you know how inertia works? The ship isn't accelerating upward but moving more or less in a horizontal plane with a constant velocity (hence no acceleration). That guy should be able to push himself upward with one finger on the moon. Inertia is not significant for such a small body.

[@sacr3]

@@TemplarX2 yup lmfao But alas people don't try anymore in movies

[@abrahamigene8973]

Lol

[@garfield12344]

A metalic ship 3000+miles/km doesn't matter is heavier than Moon, massive Iron nickel (they mine entire earth size planet cores!) First by scratching with their shield the Moon that will be displaced from orbit in opposite direction, maybe toward Earth since ship came from outer Moon orbit tangently? Second on landing such a mass on Earth also perturbed Earth allot around its axis , rotation around axis, inclination, and general orbit around Sun (either sending it closer to Sun or further away Kaput clima for life in hours!). Third that atmospheric burn is at least equivalent to an Yelowstone eruption if not more so again Nuclear winter 1000years...

[@sacr3]

That ship is a ship, meaning it's 90-95% empty space by volume. If you were to compress that down into a solid mass it may be the size of a 20 mile wide sphere. It in no way has more mass than the moon, which is a SOLID rock. If you made the moon 90% empty space by volume it would be many times larger than Earth. So this ship should never have a gravitational pull greater than Earth or the moon.

[@garfield12344]

@@sacr3 not so much... It is massive walls construct... They say it even in movie... "It is soo massive it has its own gravitational pull...", augmented by their propulsion based by some repulsive atractive gravimetric drive... Also in one vision via mental link with aliens the Mad scientist with long hair and glases with the cutting laser... Is presented a vision how they extract a Earth like planet core they molt it into a blob which is modeled using imponderbility an gravimetric tools into their motherships... Like a droplet of water in zero gravity but shaped in liquid form than solidified into the motherships hull...

[@garfield12344]

Also they harvest water H2O from planetary oceans for theyr fusion reactor which powers them, oxigen to replenish ship atmosphere since apparently they breathe O2 also (probably they also could use ammonia NH3 from planets which are metalic core like Earth but frozen there ammonia is either liquid or ice, etc) They started with Earth because our treat, but they have in Solar sistem 4 metalic core planets to mine Venus too, Mars and Mercury too...Therefore the interest! Venus is 90% CO2 so in fact 90% O2 if decompose cataliticaly...

[@sobczak0712]

I m gonna make a dinner now... but wait... countdown first!

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

I actually liked this movie….but EVERYTHING has its own gravity.

[@albay543]

Same, the action was really awesome and fun to watch, the whole sequence with the mother ship landing?? Really cool id rewatch this film anyday😎😎

[@acidpandagames1062]

Anyone know the name of the track that plays during the negitive impact part

[@yonatanschlussel]

1:25 Yeah HOW THE HELL DID YOU MIS IT The ship is like the size of AMERICA! - honest trailer lol

[@Lover-of-Creative-Priorities]

0:31 the moment U realise that it shuts itself down to be undetectable

[@abuzafor900]

What is the name of movie?

[@jimmy03827]

Even though people say that the movie is bad, to me I really didn’t care tbh. To me it was like: “Oh wow big lasers, sci fi weapons, aliens, ships, big explosions.” Am I weird for liking the movie because of this?

[@albay543]

Great movie

[@ronaldwhite1730]

Thank - you . . ( very entertaining; visually fun )

[@bantalee2002]

Should have fired off defense long before it closed in on moon. Oh well,.maybe in the next sequel.

[@Talha00985]

Movie name please

[@aiolos0053]

Cette fois ci les extraterrestre reviennent avec un ANTIVIRUS pour leurs programme 😂😂

[@lemdixon01]

Thank God for the government

[@alexinanalogue2645]

Haha thank god we have government, what would we do without them?

[@Daehawk]

Maybe should have re engineered shields too.

[@TheGary108]

They did, but they had it installed into a truck instead of scaling it up into planetary defense systems.

[@thomastarwater6035]

This movie stank on ice. The filmmakers (Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin, et al) tried to cram too much into a two-hour movie. A feature like this, it should have been at least three hours long. And what's this crap about making Dr. Okun into a gay character? That didn't happen in the original movie. No wonder INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE crapped out at the box office.

[@misterchristmas]

Like all Emmerich films the dialogue and script are terrible. The special effects are pretty much the only vehicle and the special effects are pretty special.

[@shealupkes]

I don't care that he's gay I care that they devoted too much time establishing his relationship with his boyfriend and too little time actually making that boyfriend a character

[@themuseboy]

​@@shealupkes I'm gay and I agree with you, but I have to say Mr. Tarwater sounds a bit homophobic? Also what was the thing in the first movie with all the glorified usage of the cigars. Is that really something they should be teaching all the young kids watching these movies? Don't we have enough people already dead from lung cancer?

[@leonardotubeyou4739]

@@misterchristmas Haha.

[@tmoore007]

This would be the part lol where the ALIENS 👽 say "Hello boys ...we're back"

[@bensoto3741]

This shit is like The Asylum production but with a bigger budget

[@jovimathews]

How come there’s gravity in the space shuttles and the moon man based but not on the moon surface?

[@albay543]

3:21 this scene is really awesome, the music does it for me, this sequence is stuck in my head for a day now and i dont mind it, 3:46 so epic

[@Khalcetines]

The most forgettable scene with the most basic stock soundtrack... and you call it awesome.

[@albay543]

@@Khalcetines i respect your opinion, i dont think the music is generic its allright and i do think its awesome bc its my opinion

[@ExplodingPiggy]

I think the negatives of this movie should be buried in the desert, along with the director and the writers.

[@AgiHammerthief]

oh, I‘m so glad I missed this shit till snippets appeared on youtube recently.

3:41 Beef chow mein AND egg fried rice!

[@CrazyFunnyCats]

Is this worth watching? Thanks 🙏

[@moycorbin4750]

This movie needed someone like Michael Bay to make an actual good action film 😅

[@Mocking69]

Count Down TV on Independence Day =3

[@YourOldUncleNoongah]

whats with the two fingers on the temple thing that many ppl do in movies????

[@calligraphyfineart5037]

nice movie

[@hunterknobelcatholicknight3006]

Hope one day for Independence Day 3

[@kenp7814]

This is how Websters defines Disappointment

[@neilibanez3712]

Citywide Apocalypse From No Straight Roads Encore Edition Tiny Troopers Global Ops

[@briandaleske5139]

I genuinely really like this (Moon Base) scene from the movie of (INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE).

[@JoseOrtiz-ye2jb]

I enjoyed watching it here on the app of the KZbin

[@paja4373]

@@JoseOrtiz-ye2jb hahaha

[@MrRashidTV]

Honestly? This movie had so much potential. AND THEY SQUANDERED IT COMPLETELY!! this scene was the only part that felt like there were real stakes. Then they just rushed the rest of the script and gave us garbage. we waited 20 years for this? really?

[@kevlonabess3738]

EPIC INTRO

[@ReaLifeHDchannel]

They should’ve tried sharks with frickin’ laser beams.

[@juliandasilva8333]

That's our Annunaki Gods taking back planet KAI from the oppressors.

[@nalhurst9042]

if the aliens were smart they would just blow up the Moon then come back 50 years later

[@JustinGreenBaxter]

I'm sorry but why didn't they arm the orbital defense system the second they saw that thing?

[@armorpro573]

Perhaps the ship was out of reach

[@55ehe]

ماهو اسم الفيلم؟

[@echodelta7680]

That was 'avada kedavra' by the alien ship. You can't change my mind.

[@Ebuka7J]

This is why i love "Tuco Ramirez Santa-Maria"..🔫.. Count down for what?..when the aliens already has scanned the brain wave of the soldier with the red beret and cornered him as their eyes/ears within earths defense..

[@dimitristsekeris1821]

Putting the plotholes and cheesy script aside, the overall design and cinematography of this sequel is extremely underwhelming compared to the original. The sound effects are not nearly as bombastic and natural sounding, like explosions, they are all just polished futuristic "plows" and "phwews" 0:34 3:03 The scale of this spaceship, which is supposed to be dozens of times bigger than the original mothership, is not apparent cause you only have clean, polished close ups, without the revealing shots of the original film like the entire mothership against the infinite space backdrop or like the revealing ground views of the city destroyers with atmospheric haze. ALSO, the design of the original mothership itself emphasized its size and nature, cause it looked like a planetary hemisphere with two legs, so it is like a planet but there is something artificial about it. The saucer designed meanwhile was meant to emphasize the relation of the city destroyers with the ground, as they rotate to be parallel to it. Here, they chose to use the saucer design for the mothership, massively upscaled to look like a cancer on the Earth, even though the idea of "drilling" could mean that they use a vertical drill-like design instead, plus they try to hype it with all these Transformer parts like the crab legs, going look "oooooh, look how CGI has progressed, we make complex moving robot models that are all clinky clonky!". Personally, I don't care. I don't want the goddamn crab legs. Make it a stiff object like the original. And finally, like all blockbuster films in the 2010s, it is TOO FUCKING DARK.

[@sidpheasant7585]

Yes, this is CGI'd out of any truth or reality whatever, and is just a pastiche. The original movie was not like that. Also David Arnold's music for the first film was really high quality, with gravitas, and at times quite moving.