India’s Airline Problem

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Nonstop Dan

Nonstop Dan

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@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 4 жыл бұрын
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@samyakinho
@samyakinho 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan...
@Classof2020
@Classof2020 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Dan!
@chakshak
@chakshak 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan! 15 year old fan from India 🇮🇳. This problem is partly due to an absurd national financial crisis, where owners of airlines are unavailable to pay certain prices and loans set by the government.
@shakesnbake
@shakesnbake 4 жыл бұрын
Loving these educational videos Dan :)
@ajw2733
@ajw2733 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video!
@paulandre3250
@paulandre3250 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a subject studying airlines at school. I would love it.
@benrgrogan
@benrgrogan 4 жыл бұрын
Not at school. But some universities run degrees on transport economics/planning which may include stuff on aviation depending on the course Edit I think both the geography and economics causes I did at school included stuff about the aviation industry.
@davidkamen
@davidkamen 4 жыл бұрын
There are colleges and universities which offer airline management studies and business degrees.
@queenpenelope_
@queenpenelope_ 4 жыл бұрын
I would have loved it, too!!
@sebaplays8416
@sebaplays8416 4 жыл бұрын
SAME
@birbolo302
@birbolo302 4 жыл бұрын
Omg yesssss
@JohnSmith-kr9zw
@JohnSmith-kr9zw 4 жыл бұрын
I’m American and I’ve been to India 3 times. Always love their insanely low air fares, they are so low you start to worry how they offer seats so cheap. Indigo is a modern well run airline, air India is scary!
@mehulsrivastava6934
@mehulsrivastava6934 4 жыл бұрын
as an Indian avgeek, the low fares concern me as well and the price sensitive market of India made the 5-star airline Kingfisher go bankrupt.
@parthmishra4173
@parthmishra4173 4 жыл бұрын
For you. For Indians a 5000 rupee fare is not that cheap....
@JohnSmith-kr9zw
@JohnSmith-kr9zw 4 жыл бұрын
Parth Mishra that is a very valid point sir!
@seventhuser904
@seventhuser904 4 жыл бұрын
@@parthmishra4173 Anything from 2000 to 4000 is cheap for Indians. Above 4000 rs Its Costly
@viralpatel6213
@viralpatel6213 4 жыл бұрын
Air India is hated by Indians too 🤣🤣😂😂
@saikumar-od2uy
@saikumar-od2uy 4 жыл бұрын
Another reason for low profitability is the Indian Railways. It has vast operational network across India with affordable prices unless u opt for premium trains or class. Many of the middle class people opt for rail journey instead of flight due to huge difference in travel cost.
@seventhuser904
@seventhuser904 4 жыл бұрын
@Li'l Squeak Yep. I paid 2700 Rs for 3rd AC Class in Duronto from Delhi to Pune. The flight Cost nearly the same nearly 3000 Rs..
@rext8949
@rext8949 4 жыл бұрын
Railways cannot compete with airlines when it comes to the time factor. The average top speed of a train in India is 80 kmph. Fact is commercial aviation has seen a boom in business with ordinary people travelling by air.
@saikumar-od2uy
@saikumar-od2uy 4 жыл бұрын
@Li'l Squeak i completely agree with you. I have also mentioned that price will be same if you opt for premium trains or classes. However, vast population in middle income group and many people use to travel in economic fare only in trains
@yashsinghrathore9615
@yashsinghrathore9615 4 жыл бұрын
@@rext8949 lol are you talking about American railways Because in India some trains runs at a speed of 160kmph
@rext8949
@rext8949 4 жыл бұрын
@@yashsinghrathore9615 the trains are capable of that speed but due to track conditions in India the average speed for the journey is maintained at a lower speed.
@democracyisgood4906
@democracyisgood4906 3 жыл бұрын
I am Indian and i am impressed with amount of information you have I don't have enough financial independence to support you on patreon but i will promote your channel personally to my friends i used to do that for polymatter , wendover production , Caspian report and many more you are also in my list
@bingbong7777
@bingbong7777 4 жыл бұрын
Being half owned by Singapore Airlines, I think Vistara will be a success in India.
@grozaphy
@grozaphy 4 жыл бұрын
SIA have been profitable for 43 years in a row until COVID-19 so I expect Vistara to succeed
@Abhi.the.Voyager
@Abhi.the.Voyager 4 жыл бұрын
Not to forget, it's Tatas fm India who r behind Vistara and they were the first to start airlines in the country. It's a very respectable business conglomerate, who might be one big reason for the success of this airlines.
@ashray0611
@ashray0611 4 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt be surprised if they didnt succeed because vistara's prices are much more expensive the other airlines and like dan said low cost carriers are preferred in india
@nathanaelhalim8191
@nathanaelhalim8191 4 жыл бұрын
Dont hold your breath though.. look at virgin australia
@bingbong7777
@bingbong7777 4 жыл бұрын
Nathanael Halim SQ owns only 20% of Virgin Australia, where as SQ owns 49% of Vistara......
@chinmaymahajan7778
@chinmaymahajan7778 4 жыл бұрын
UDAN: "Ude Desh ka Aam Nagarik" basically means "Every Common Man will Fly"
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like AirAsia's slogan too: *Now everybody can fly* . Greta Thunburg might be like: _How dare you?_
@riteshyeddu
@riteshyeddu 3 жыл бұрын
@@lzh4950 🤣
@taushsidhu9335
@taushsidhu9335 4 жыл бұрын
Dan this case study is brilliant ! You've perfectly exposed how the Indian Aviation Ministry has potential to do alot more for its domestic carriers . Also another factor to consider is that air fares drastically rise up during season time ( sometimes to an extent where flying international is more feasible ) which brings in the affordability factor for the average consumer ( in comparison to other modes such Rail and Roadways ) Looking forward to the Jet Airways video 💯
@a.k.6878
@a.k.6878 4 жыл бұрын
I used to fly in Jet Airways from Paris to Mumbai.... I miss them... They were amazing... Better than other French carriers
@bhushaaa4244
@bhushaaa4244 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed! I too have done the Mumbai-Paris route on Jet airways. It's one of the best international flights I've had.
@shaunakwasker20
@shaunakwasker20 2 жыл бұрын
Jet airways is back
@Mephala15
@Mephala15 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a fun fact: Most of the Cabin Crew from collapsed Jet, are now part of Qatar Airways Cabin Crew
@wanp8158
@wanp8158 4 жыл бұрын
True lol
@King9king
@King9king 4 жыл бұрын
They have been fired now due to covid
@varunnair4705
@varunnair4705 4 жыл бұрын
@Li'l Squeak as a former qatar crew, they werent nice to say the least
@superskierful
@superskierful 7 ай бұрын
Not just cabin crew, pilots too; especially the Boeing 777 ones
@SFAvgeek
@SFAvgeek 6 ай бұрын
That is quite sad. Qatar does not treat its crew well.
@AARON-ft9bz
@AARON-ft9bz 4 жыл бұрын
Do Thomas Cook. I loved working for them and it’s shocking a profitable airline had to shutdown due to the brand as a whole 🥺🥺. I was on duty, 3am, when the news broke it was awful.
@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 4 жыл бұрын
Gosh that's horrible! I'll look into the video potential🙏
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 4 жыл бұрын
As some one from Asia it seemed unfathomable that there are/were airlines that didn't target business customers while also not being budget, or travel agencies operating their own airlines too (because I thought their existence was already under threat by travellers cutting them out as the middleman by booking travel-related services online directly) e.g. TUI, Condor, as it wouldn't have seemed economically viable
@Hannah-cw9do
@Hannah-cw9do 4 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this
@camdened123456
@camdened123456 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like "Smaller communities" undersells the lack of infrastructure that you have at these airports. The airport closest to my extended family is STV, which was in the government scheme to improve access. We flew into this airport having spent some time in Goa in 2016, which was the last time I went to India. Despite being a city of ~5m people the airport terminal was smaller than the train station in my university city of ~80k people, which would as many passengers in an hour as STV would have in a day!
@hpatel3263
@hpatel3263 4 жыл бұрын
I know right?! Surat Airport is also by far the closest airport to my family in India, but due to lack of availability and expensive flights we have to usually bear the long drive to Mumbai or Ahmedabad to catch flights, especially international ones. How can a city with over 5 million people have less than four int'l and a few dozen domestic flights a week? Where I live, in New Zealand (total population: barely 5 million), my home city of under 500,000 has at least 5-8 international flights and over 50 domestic flights daily, despite being closed from 12am-4am.
@tony.airlines
@tony.airlines 4 жыл бұрын
I feel in many ways that India's aviation industry mirrors that of Mexico. Here in Mexico we have only 4 major airlines (Aeromexico, Volaris, VivaAerobus and Interjet). Corruption is also a key factor here, as Mexicana Airlines - the only other full service airline besides AMX went bankrupt several years ago. Most traffic in Mexico is also VFR, just like in India. Many airports and cities with potential throughout Mexico are also underserved, or have been nearly forgotten about, such as Cuernavaca near MEX, and Guaymas in the North of the country. Similar to Mumbai in India, Mexico City is one of the largest metropolitan areas in the world, yet only has one airport operating at capacity. Nearly all of Mexico's transatlantic traffic comes on foreign airlines. AeroMexico only serves a handful of European cities. Many European airlines dominate the long haul routes from airports in Mexico such as Cancun, Puerto Vallarta and Los Cabos. This is similar how European airlines such as British or Lufthansa dominate in India, because of the perception of Air India by the population, and their lack of international services. Ultimately, I feel several other countries are faced with similar situations as India, such as in Central America and South America (very few airlines, high ticket prices, government corruption, etc). I feel this video was very helpful understanding the airline industry a little bit more deep down so thank you very much for sharing!
@SSIyer
@SSIyer 4 жыл бұрын
This was so insightful! Thank you.
@tony.airlines
@tony.airlines 4 жыл бұрын
S.S Iyer For sure!
@MoonShine-o5n
@MoonShine-o5n 11 ай бұрын
They’re both developing countries. India is investing so much in infrastructure and I’m sure Mexico is too. These prices are pretty high for local Indians. This guy just doesn’t account for the fact that it’s not a rich, developed country.
@mxachary
@mxachary 4 жыл бұрын
Any impact that Indian railways has on passenger volume? Even the growth of airlines has barely dented rail passenger volume
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is that most airports are far aware from the cities, with poor connectivity. So sometimes it takes more time to get to the airport than the actual flight times. While the railway in India, most cities are build around the station
@aniketmehra4579
@aniketmehra4579 4 жыл бұрын
The video is very informative and it's true that Mumbai airport lacks as compared to other. I'm from New Delhi and Live close to the airport and all I see are Indigo, air india and spicejet (all low cost airlines) and sometime vistara. It shows that there are barely any premium airlines arriving here.
@aniketmehra4579
@aniketmehra4579 4 жыл бұрын
@@God-mv4zb yeah you're right. And also because Mumbai has very less space to have more than 1 airport.
@rext8949
@rext8949 4 жыл бұрын
Worldwide legacy carriers are struggling. It's the low cost carriers which are doing good business
@aniketmehra4579
@aniketmehra4579 4 жыл бұрын
@@rext8949 fr fr. Facts! And also I was watching lately news and got to know there will be a lotta new airports building around in India including a new one in Mumbai. 🙃
@siddhanth9484
@siddhanth9484 4 жыл бұрын
Got to know about my country aviation state from a foreign guy! Thank you dan
@dcmhsotaeh
@dcmhsotaeh 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile their Air network software is being done in bengaluru
@akshaypendyala
@akshaypendyala 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcmhsotaeh 😎
@riteshyeddu
@riteshyeddu 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@simondavey7787
@simondavey7787 4 жыл бұрын
I love your documentary style videos. Having been with you on this KZbin journey since the early days of Dantorp, it’s a pleasure to watch your channel grow and the quality of your videos increasing. You really have hit professional level. Much love to you from a locked down England!
@FSHVTAGMMY
@FSHVTAGMMY 4 жыл бұрын
6:10 the staff have a better headset than I do, they literally have a 100 dollar hyper x stinger
@MayankPawar27
@MayankPawar27 4 жыл бұрын
Dan just saw that you'll be making A video on Jet Airways!!And I'm dying to watch it as it was my Favorite Airline!!!!
@sambsstt
@sambsstt 4 жыл бұрын
Jet Airways is your..favourite?
@sannidhyabalkote9536
@sannidhyabalkote9536 4 жыл бұрын
Favorite indian airline
@taushsidhu9335
@taushsidhu9335 4 жыл бұрын
@@sambsstt Jet Airways is a big deal in India bud.
@sambsstt
@sambsstt 4 жыл бұрын
@@taushsidhu9335 Well, that doesn't mean it's a good airline, and it's bankrupt now, so...
@taushsidhu9335
@taushsidhu9335 4 жыл бұрын
@@sambsstt I agree , Corruption on the top levels of management was the reason for its downfall . Yet we all crave that nostalgic feeling of good times , you know ...
@pranavnair2036
@pranavnair2036 4 жыл бұрын
I really used to wonder why Indian airlines struggle,but now I got the answer very informational
@PaulB-17
@PaulB-17 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate these docu style videos Dan. Comprehensive, not overly technical and well spoken. interesting and educational to us av geeks. Well done and more please.
@chaimsaviogomes6129
@chaimsaviogomes6129 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Dan, You also have to factor in buying capability of passengers. People have get paid meager salaries making it impossible for them to purchase airline tickets from full service carriers and forcing budget airlines to drop prices. This is also a reason for people preferring trains in India because they are cheaper.
@PDCh84
@PDCh84 4 жыл бұрын
Also the airports in majority of places are way far from city centres and lack quick and affordable connectivity to city. For example it takes more time to reach my home from BLR airport than it takes to fly in from Delhi
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 4 жыл бұрын
Nice research Dan. It’s also down to the four P’s of marketing; product, price, promotion & place. Also the research you presented play a massive role. Nice video Dan. Thanks for taking your time researching this. 👍
@mjching239
@mjching239 3 жыл бұрын
USA: *WE HAVE THE WORST AIRLINES* INDIA: *HOLD MY BEER*
@sarthsingh3271
@sarthsingh3271 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@sahilanant123
@sahilanant123 4 жыл бұрын
A great insight as an Air Transport and Operations student. Currently pursuing the Masters in The Netherlands. As an Indian, this made a lot of sense :)
@gcntech9071
@gcntech9071 4 жыл бұрын
As a person more in the tech industry, I have the a similar question, how is it possible for India not to have their own phone or computer brands? Especially in tech that many Indians have a great knowledge in both hardware and software....
@cameronjournal
@cameronjournal 4 жыл бұрын
I get no phone brands, setting up hardware manufacturing is tough and due to globalization its simply easier to import existing models from China. Samsung may be korean but the handsets are made in China and its a short haul. They already run android so how would a domestic competitor compete? Same situation with apple. Computers end up having the same problem as well.
@MayankPawar27
@MayankPawar27 4 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched it yet but am sure it’s gonna be great! Love from India 🇮🇳 !
@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it and learn something🙏
@MayankPawar27
@MayankPawar27 4 жыл бұрын
@@NonstopDan Dan just saw that you'll be making A case study on Jet Airways!!!! I'm literally dying to watch it as it's my favorite Airline!!!!!
@vidhyuthviswanathan5202
@vidhyuthviswanathan5202 4 жыл бұрын
Mayank Pawar you should say it WAS your favorite airline lol
@pirayv3397
@pirayv3397 4 жыл бұрын
@@vidhyuthviswanathan5202 Yeah lmao
@Maldivian001Aviation
@Maldivian001Aviation 4 жыл бұрын
I hate airlines from india
@MarkAClarke
@MarkAClarke 4 жыл бұрын
I really love these educational aviation videos... Maybe time for a spinoff channel when this covid mess is done !! Well done Dan !! Love your work!
@MrPsychomonkey
@MrPsychomonkey 4 жыл бұрын
I think major factor is that India is surrounded by quite a few foreign hubs conveniently located for major markets (Europe (middle east), Far East & USA (Europe or Far East). A lot of these hubs are bases for good quality airlines (great customer service) ,reasonable prices, often massive baggage allowance and often connecting flights to airports near their final destination in India. While the Indian international airlines have in my experience got a reputation for poor service, planes not maintained well and delays, so people tend to spend a little extra especially for these long haul flights from US or Europe.
@anubhavmitra8928
@anubhavmitra8928 4 жыл бұрын
People say ticket prices India are cheap but they are more expensive than airfares in Europe or USA as the average ticket price even for two hour flight on a low cost carrier cost 50 to 60 dollars. Compare that to Europe where it costs 20 dollars.
@jasonmuyumba280
@jasonmuyumba280 4 жыл бұрын
I love these short docu-series Dan! Please keep them coming. Regards from South Africa! 🇿🇦
@ripunjaymallabuzarbaruah2655
@ripunjaymallabuzarbaruah2655 4 жыл бұрын
Love from Guwahati ASSAM INDIA ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@rajnikantpandey3699
@rajnikantpandey3699 4 жыл бұрын
Another great reason for no indian airlines serving internationally is the weakness of indian passport which allows citizens to visit visa free to smthing around 63 countries only as compared to 185 countries which US citizens can travel visa free and getting a visa involves time and process which people tend to avoid!!
@burstingsanta2710
@burstingsanta2710 4 жыл бұрын
USA is other case but 63 is not a bad number it's just average,many countries have lower than that
@sonaldosui8154
@sonaldosui8154 4 жыл бұрын
Also the nation is too poor
@themaus3847
@themaus3847 4 жыл бұрын
@Paul Fox no, we’re actually quite rich. But due to the GDP per capita, so many people are poor.
@sonaldosui8154
@sonaldosui8154 4 жыл бұрын
XxMegamonsterxX I’m not Indian
@rext8949
@rext8949 4 жыл бұрын
@@themaus3847 Rich?? On what parameter is India rich? With a population of 1400 million and less than 2 trillion dollars GDP India is one of the poorest countries with the maximum number of people living in poverty .
@noelabella3884
@noelabella3884 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Info Dan....Well done...
@rexdude
@rexdude 3 жыл бұрын
1.3 biLLioN population, as though all of them are potential customers for budget airlines, let alone full service ones. Actual demand is much less, and the vast majority still travel by train.
@FlyHighSpotter
@FlyHighSpotter 4 жыл бұрын
I know the quality is little low. Anyway glad to see my video footage on your channel. Thanks 🙏
@sidharthcs2110
@sidharthcs2110 4 жыл бұрын
Answer : Indian Railways
@sarangtambe3585
@sarangtambe3585 4 жыл бұрын
But India is not known for its railway. They are nice these days but nothing special about them.
@sidharthcs2110
@sidharthcs2110 4 жыл бұрын
@@sarangtambe3585 It doesn't matter. It's just cheaper than air travel. No need to be special
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a reversal of the situation in the USA?
@Racko.
@Racko. 4 жыл бұрын
@@lzh4950 Yes
@HK_SPOTTING
@HK_SPOTTING 3 жыл бұрын
I live in bombay and now in HK and see spicejet 737 indigo a 320 and air india 787 dreamliner here in HK
@warrenmills7935
@warrenmills7935 4 жыл бұрын
Corruption is one of the big issues with any business in India. This in itself is one of the main reasons potential buyers of struggling airlines are scared of jumping in. The government being corrupt itself and owning shares does instill confidence.
@CinemaDemocratica
@CinemaDemocratica 4 жыл бұрын
"VFR" does not stand for "Visiting Family and Friends" -- not least because it isn't even the correct combination of letters, to stand for that. (It stands for "Visual Flight Rules.")
@kuvira4092
@kuvira4092 4 жыл бұрын
VFR in terms of tourism stands for ‘visiting friends and relatives’ whilst VFR in aviation is visual flight rules
@Harish-im4zr
@Harish-im4zr 4 жыл бұрын
Been a subscriber for the past 7 years and being from India I learnt a lot about the current situation. Nice job. Can you perhaps make a video on how you edit your videos its really good !!
@pennybr1dge
@pennybr1dge 4 жыл бұрын
Love this kind of content, gives your channel something extra. I understand it would be difficult to take requests, but would love to see a video about asia's first and oldest commercial airline - philippine airlines.
@heavenlyhashbrown1
@heavenlyhashbrown1 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this was a literal dissertation. Well done!
@veddaga1504
@veddaga1504 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Dan, I have recently noticed you produced the most videos per month, good job and very good videos
@suvra_95_uchiha28
@suvra_95_uchiha28 4 жыл бұрын
Middle class Indian travel on Train, only when we don't get train tickets then we fly domestic .
@malahammer
@malahammer 3 жыл бұрын
I worked with Indian internal East West Airlines in the 90's as a supplier. It collapsed after the MD was shot dead by a Mumbai criminal gang. There were some allegations floating around at the time. EWA was the first scheduled private airline in the country that was launched as soon as the Indian economy opened. It will be interesting to see what you actually say about Jet Dan. I'll have a look at that video on Jet Airlines to see what you say about their rivalry with EWA at the very beginning!!!!
@ashwinshankar
@ashwinshankar 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. I just wanted to add from personal experience why Indian prefer international carriers over Air India is because of the way they are treated by flight crew (Stewards/air hostesses). I have witnessed the change in body language ,attitude and mannerism in which they interact with an Indian traveler vs one from the west. It was actually sad they variance in service in the same flight. This is only in Air India, as Jet Airways services have actually been very good.
@tally1604
@tally1604 3 жыл бұрын
This is truly horrible. To be treated as second class citizens by your own airline.
@nishantahvan
@nishantahvan 3 жыл бұрын
Four reasons: 1. Huge tax 2. Huge airport cost. 3. Huge fuel price 5. Price sensitive
@ash05
@ash05 4 жыл бұрын
If they aim to open the new airport in 2023, it won't actually open until at least 2027.
@tompeled6193
@tompeled6193 3 жыл бұрын
About 2030
@obamium3266
@obamium3266 4 жыл бұрын
Just a fact check: Mumbai's current airport has 2 active runways and 89 gates in terminal 2, 30 in Terminal 1. Traffic flows in Mumbai well, but you're certainly correct about the monopoly.
@jeetshaah
@jeetshaah 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video #NonstopDan Indeed loved your vast research on Indian Aviation and their Profitability. Hyper cost sensitive market, Dominating LCC's, Under developed airport infrastructure and one of the highest ATF fuel tax by the government prevents Indian Aviation from profiting and expanding.
@KunalDebChandra
@KunalDebChandra 4 жыл бұрын
Great documentary Dan. What you said about the airports in India, it's unprofitable such as Kolkata where it lost two links to Europe such as London Heathrow with British Airways and Frankfurt Airport from Lufthansa. Partly is due to the cost of aviation fuel and other parts of due to the airport infrastructure, washrooms, and the food such as airline catering. There is a big difference if you fly out of Mumbai, New Delhi, Bangalore, or even Chennai where there airports are better organized by the airlines compared to Kolkata Airport which is underserved by foreign airlines except for Thai Airways, Singapore Airlines, Qatar Airways and a few others. British Airways, Lufthansa Airlines, Turkish Airlines and other foreign airlines may not want to go to Kolkata fit to a lack of business opportunities in that city.
@anindyamajhi8331
@anindyamajhi8331 4 жыл бұрын
Kolkata once had direct connection to the US via PanAm as well as to Australia via Qantas. Not to mention the flagship European carriers such as BA, Lufthansa, AirFrance etc. Underdevelopment of industries and businesses for 3 decades has led to this situation, where we only have direct connections to the UAE, Qatar and some other cities in SE Asia and Kolkatans travelling beyond have to endure a great deal of suffering, first looking for connecting flights and then undertaking longer journeys. For a city like Kolkata, this is indeed a matter of shame!
@unknownperson3691
@unknownperson3691 10 ай бұрын
Btw for future readers, the airlines pulled out of Kolkata due to a lack of premium demand which makes sense considering the city’s lack of higher end industries.
@steve3ri
@steve3ri 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, Dan. I learned something!
@andrewkosmowski3985
@andrewkosmowski3985 4 жыл бұрын
Your description of Indian airlines rings true with my very limited experiences. I was in Bengaluru (BLR) when JET collapsed. This city has one terminal and one or two runways. International flights used the airport at night. My flight leaving was scheduled to leave at 3 AM! BLR was in the midst of building a second terminal. Rumor was it would have been for international flights only.
@routadu
@routadu 4 жыл бұрын
Jewar Airport is also being built in Uttar Pradesh with initial capacity of 6-8 Mn passengers and 2 runways expanding it into 60-70 Mn passengers with 6 runways
@avishkarrishi2611
@avishkarrishi2611 4 жыл бұрын
most of the points are accurate but profitability also depends on the route we have available to fly in india the air space available for commercial is very less {has been changed now} and tax on fuel. but few points that are wrong are 1 trujet is not bankrupt 2 and spicejet is not profitable consistently { indigo and goair is}
@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 4 жыл бұрын
Good point - it seems Trujet is almost entirely grounded, but perhaps not completely. Regarding Spicejet, I mentioned that they and Indigo are "almost" consistently profitable :)
@avishkarrishi2611
@avishkarrishi2611 4 жыл бұрын
@@NonstopDan spicejet from 2012 till now, only 3 years in profit rest all loss and twice was in verge of bankruptcy and still is. But now leaving IndiGo, every airline is on verge of collapsing. Tough times in indian aviation
@CodeDeb
@CodeDeb 4 жыл бұрын
What mic are u using for ur voiceovers Dan?
@baristheperson4255
@baristheperson4255 4 жыл бұрын
I love this new video format. Since you can’t travel, you found a way of making fun video without flying. Keep up the great work.
@kiranm4762
@kiranm4762 2 жыл бұрын
We have amazing railway network in India which serves the majority of the country. We didn't miss having air transportation for a really long time.
@pranavharikrishnan9840
@pranavharikrishnan9840 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dan you’re right about the perception of international airlines being better. One of the reasons could be ticket prices. For example while travelling to the US, ticket prices on British airways,Lufthansa etc was half that of jet airways and air India
@ZhangtheGreat
@ZhangtheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
It's downright INSANE that the largest city in India, a country with well over a billion people, has only ONE major airport with ONE runway.
@UmairActorModel
@UmairActorModel 4 жыл бұрын
People in India travel by train a lot (within India) which is probably also why airlines don’t profit as much!
@NozomuYume
@NozomuYume 4 жыл бұрын
And really, for most trips, a train just makes more sense. It can carry more people for less cost across medium distances. Flying should be reserved for trips of over 600-800km. The sensible solution is to stop trying to have an airport in every city and focus on routes between major cities over 600km apart, and have good train stations at the airport to take you on the last part of your trip.
@spitfiremkiv339
@spitfiremkiv339 4 жыл бұрын
Well, thats how the govt is running things here. I remember when the govt asked legendary aircraft designer Kurt Tank (who designed the FW190) to develop an indigenous aircraft (HAL MARUT). First, they didnt give him enough time and resources to build a proper aircraft. and when Kurt Tank did make an aircraft, the govt blamed him for not making a proper aircraft. Bureaucracy just wasted away all of Tank's potential.
@SS-hw1ou
@SS-hw1ou 4 жыл бұрын
Well the government had KGB to satisfy
@NihazVIDZ
@NihazVIDZ 4 жыл бұрын
Truly a great analysis of Indian Carriers, thank you Dan for sharing this. Awaiting for your next video eagerly.
@chrisrobling
@chrisrobling 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dan. I have flown QR, Indigo, Emirates, BA, Alitalia and KLM to/from MUM and DEL. Notice -- no Air India?
@eddy9890
@eddy9890 4 жыл бұрын
Really like your video. Hope you make video of more struggling airlines in near future.
@pramitkhanna7163
@pramitkhanna7163 3 жыл бұрын
I think another factor here for airlines to take into account is the fact that a vast majority of folks flying for the first time in India were used to frequent cheap travel by rail. These people would expect flight tickets to be somewhere near those kinds of prices.
@freddiem6805
@freddiem6805 3 жыл бұрын
but it is similar price lots of time. At least if you are talking AC class rail.
@hmishrahm
@hmishrahm 3 жыл бұрын
@nonstop dan You have not considered two very important factors in the domestic sector. India has a very intense railway network that provides access to the middle of the city. The railway times are set at a good time with its super comfortable at a third of a price. I prefer an overnight journey on the train which I can board in the middle of the city and reaching less than 15 minutes prior to departure. Airports are situated away from the city which add an additional hour or two of commute, in addition to the cost. Indian Railway plays a great alternative to flights, especially for travels less than 7-8 hours (500 miles).
@captauron4514
@captauron4514 4 жыл бұрын
Indian people will pay for a seat on the wings of a plane if it meant they can save a few rupees.
@hariomtalreja3101
@hariomtalreja3101 4 жыл бұрын
I am economics student, and the real problem with India's aviation industry is the lack of privatization. Privatization is when a firm is sold to a private sector. This is especially the problem for its national carrier air india. The national carrier air india is being destroyed by the government, as there is no proper maintenance, if this airline is privatized, it will grow in profit.
@astitvakumar8618
@astitvakumar8618 3 жыл бұрын
In India about a decade ago we didn't used to have a lot of private cars and owing a car was considered as a luxury and now almost everyone has a car
@sumanhazarika7563
@sumanhazarika7563 4 жыл бұрын
Indian Aviation sector is really very complex... it's a price sensitive market as people look for cheaper tickets rather than meal services and so the big companies like Indigo, Spice jets cuts there cost to offer competitive prices and which results in loss to other airlines when they can't provide at competitive prices.
@vulc1
@vulc1 4 жыл бұрын
Stockholm has 4 airports and not 2 as mentioned in the video. The airports are: Arlanda Airport (ARN), Bromma Airport (BMA), Västerås Airport (VST), Skavsta Airport (NYO).
@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 4 жыл бұрын
The other two are by no means actually Stockholm’s airports. They’re both in other cities and are served by LCCs.
@monsieur1936
@monsieur1936 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from a tier 2 city of India named Patna which is the capital of the poorest Indian state Bihar. Patna's population is 2.2 millions and we have Airport operates at 100% of it's capacity during vacation times it has only one runway of 2100 meters and it can hold only 3 airplanes at a time.
@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115
@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 4 жыл бұрын
Kids fly Emirates, Etihad, Qantas, Men fly Air India, Indigo, SpiceJet, Legends wait for *JioAirlines*
@earth2k66
@earth2k66 4 жыл бұрын
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@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115
@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 4 жыл бұрын
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@earth2k66
@earth2k66 4 жыл бұрын
@@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 I was really pissed when they increased the cost by 100rs and there was no free night data after the new year offer! It's like selling an anti-virus after creating a virus!
@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115
@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 4 жыл бұрын
@@earth2k66 😂 where in India you are bro??
@viralpatel6213
@viralpatel6213 4 жыл бұрын
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@aqilnaufal14
@aqilnaufal14 4 жыл бұрын
I really love this new format 😍😍😍
@Chell_AV
@Chell_AV 4 жыл бұрын
Just rediscovered your channel with these educational video, they are definitely quality ! I would love to see more of these
@tally1604
@tally1604 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't always dirt cheap even at the hight of the aviation bubble. I remember having to pay 200 usd for one way tickets to Daramshala from Delhi circa 2009-2010. Considering I only had to pay 300 dollars round trip for my international flights to Delhi from my country.
@VikasChaudhary1
@VikasChaudhary1 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis Dan, I learnt a lot here
@amarsingh122
@amarsingh122 4 жыл бұрын
HI!! awesome video nonstop dan.. Im a longtime fan of your channel, and really love your background!! I am an Indian and i thought this video was very insightful and your research is just amazing. One thing I think is also a source of much difficulty for the Indian airline industry that you didn't mention is the extensive railway network in India. Many Indians are very much adapted to travelling by rail. Though this is a cheap service, it is not very time efficient. I hope that things will change! Love your channel and hope to see many more videos like this!
@timmyjones1921
@timmyjones1921 4 жыл бұрын
Today I looked on Flight Radar 24 at Air Traffic Over India , It Was Slim to Say The Least in fact Seems there was More Planes Flying Across The Mongolian Desert than The Whole Of India.
@krypticencoder
@krypticencoder 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive research on the Indian aviation market. As much of a skeptic I am in opinions drawn by most many aviation critics, this has to be by far the most sensible insight into the overall health and challenges faced for continued sustainability in Indian aviation.Just to add, airlines in India recorded a profit for the last quarter of 2019. Indigo reported profit upward 500 million $, Go air and Spicejet too reported profits. Vistara still needs to break even and with international ops soon to begin, they wouldn’t want to loose time. As you have pointed out, the poor government policies as among the main reasons for airlines to barely make ends meet, there are some other points that I would like to shed some light on:- 1) Govt has recently reworked on the air navigation restrictions that were in force all along, paving the way for more direct routing, avoiding circumventing military and security navigational restrictions, thereby cutting costs. 2) India inkling on a dream to became a hub is still a long shot, at the moment only Delhi has the geographical, national significance and a fairly acceptable infrastructure to pull of something of a hub model, however, this model is in itself questionable in the post covid world. India has the scale and the means to capitalise on the very under served colossal middle class population. Just catering to the millions within the country could make it cut across the nation for airlines to break even. The gulf airlines monopoly and the past governments liberal policies encouraging international airlines at the perils of our own state carriers have much to be blamed for it. All hope is not lost, the new policy in the wake of COVID has given a much needed impetus for Indian airlines to operate internationally on a priority basis. Let’s hope things change for good.
@jasdsb
@jasdsb 4 жыл бұрын
Listening to this in a car, going towards to work at the airport DEL
@gammacheese
@gammacheese 3 жыл бұрын
I'm losing my shit every time he says udan 😂 cause udan literally means 'poop' in my language Oromo
@mrunmayeejoshi8317
@mrunmayeejoshi8317 4 жыл бұрын
Another reason why Indian airlines Don profit is becoz flying in india is considered mostly as international not domestic . If a average earning middle class man is given a choice between railway and airline tickets he would go for railways as they are much cheaper than airlines . Plus railways have a extensive network in Indian . They connect almost all parts of country . Nowadays they are also on time .
@madmanthan21
@madmanthan21 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you missed one of the biggest reasons, Indian Railways, because of the vast size of their network and fleet, they can offer sleeping berths far cheaper than an economy class ticket, while still being profitable, and if i can go somewhere overnight, in a sleeping berth, for cheaper than i can fly, ill choose the former option.
@bliblablubb0712
@bliblablubb0712 3 жыл бұрын
I love india since I went there for the first time in my youth. And I went there because I was in love with india, if that makes sense. In the next two decades I travelled a lot (mostly asia and europe) and it kinda felt that people and life are somewhat the same everywhere in the world but with the exception of idia. India, for me, is not only the most different place to my home europe, but also sort of a complete different universe in a very positive sense. It seems that heaven is nowhere as present as in india, despite all the profanity that exists there as well, of course. But still. If you havent seen india, you havent seen the world.
@AnjaliSingh-0304
@AnjaliSingh-0304 3 жыл бұрын
If Indigo goes out of business I swear Indians wont travel anymore lmao
@gsp113
@gsp113 3 жыл бұрын
*The Reason is Indian Railways -* *India has the largest Rail network and Railway stations in just about every village and Town where a 2 day journey can cost about $10 in second class covering over 3000 kms.* *Rich passengers can opt for AC class or Full AC express trains which neither Europe can due to it's borders nor US due to it's vastness.* *Indians love the travelling and sightseeing experience on trains and saving money for other better usage rather than a few hour journey across the country.* *Indian Railways are always packed to the full across India.* *Please Comment.*
@prashanthnatarajan89
@prashanthnatarajan89 4 жыл бұрын
Love how a good portion of the video is based in SFO (G93 AI174) and BLR (The Indigo footage).. Also, flying was a luxury for the longest time. Growing up, flying was almost never an option to get from city to city. You always defaulted to the trains. Things have changes A LOT in the last 15 years with larger number of travel websites making it possible to book tickets from home, penetration of the internet and the increase in number of airlines. People now see airlines as a travel option which is a huge change.
@jfwfreo
@jfwfreo 4 жыл бұрын
The obvious question is, if there is so much demand for air travel but the airports in cities like Mumbai aren't up to the task, why haven't they done what pretty much every other city has done and built more airports and more capacity?
@Vicstarz26
@Vicstarz26 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, coming from a aviation enthusiast - was really interested in all the information :)
@ashleyxipatly
@ashleyxipatly 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos because I can learn and of course,it is very interesting 💖
@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ashley🙏
@shahnawazkhan3118
@shahnawazkhan3118 4 жыл бұрын
There was a similar situation in the aviation industry of Pakistan. Survival for any airline was difficult due to high taxation. 30% of a domestic ticket was tax and 25% fuel cost. However, the current government reduced taxes considerably. New airlines can be introduced with less paid up capital requirements but these won’t be allowed to connect two major airports, they will be allowed to connect a small airport with a major airport however. Aircraft age requirement is relaxed from 12 years to 15 years now. New airlines are in the pipeline. I wish good luck to airline industry anywhere in the world.
@sarthsingh3271
@sarthsingh3271 3 жыл бұрын
That "Ude desh ka aam nagrik" pronunciation killed me😂😂
@deerpark29
@deerpark29 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent research! Thanks
@talksailesh1
@talksailesh1 3 жыл бұрын
Well researched video Dan. Great job !
@2kgamer1884
@2kgamer1884 4 жыл бұрын
This is so crazy I travelled to India last year and I remember flying indigo and spice jet I’ll leave my options to myself but if you want to hear them lmk
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