India's Chandrayaan 2 Reveals Highest Resolution Images Of The Moon From Orbit

India's Chandrayaan 2 has been orbiting the moon for over a year but hasn't been sharing the data with the world until just before Christmas. I'd been hoping that the high resolution camera would let us see things on the moon in a detail we'd not seen before, but it appears that they've only shared 3 images and 2 of those are blurry.
Still I hope this is a start and we'll be seeing more data in the future.
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[@aritrabiswas7827]

I live in India and I've had the opportunity to meet some scientists from ISRO. Really friendly people, even the chairman was nice enough to hang around with us schoolkids for quite a long time. They work so hard but for whatever reason don't show off the results of their work. Hopefully in the future we'll get better communication from them.

[@shigekax]

Older space agencies probably get a lot just from experience

[@slinkerdeer]

They don't show most of their work because they aren't allowed to due to the anomalous things populating the moons surface

[@Maxdubi]

It’s just *CHAIR* now. Can’t have man at the end.

[@AeroCraftAviation]

@@Maxdubi Chairperson? No can't have "son"...Chairhuman? No can't have "man"...Chairpeople? No must be singular...Chairbeing. Perfection.

[@5Andysalive]

They are probably not the people who decide that.

[@StevenAndrews]

It was a crater...until you told me it could be a mountain.

[@GregMcCarthyUK]

I can't unsee it now. Its always a mountain

[@richardupcott9026]

Then it became a chamelon eye.

[@rcknbob1]

"First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is" -- Donovan

[@thiesenf]

Goes to show that the brain reaally can't differentiate what it is being fed by our senses...

[@flszen]

It was a mountain for me and stayed that way after he said it was a crater.

[@chrisc1140]

"a crater with a depressed object in the middle" how did they get a picture of me on the moon?

[@jdh2024]

I can see why you'd be depressed, stuck in a crater on the moon!

[@Shogoeu]

That's a mountain. You were standing on a mountain.

[@bradbrown8759]

Lmao😂 "A crater with a depressed object in the middle." That's the story of my life. 🙊

[@AttilaTheHun333333]

that’s deep

[@multitimmytiger2]

"a crater with a depressed object in the middle" aka "me in the middle of my life".

[@canis9178]

My grandfather built his own telescope and would be amazed by these lunar images. He gave me my lifetime love of astronomy and I know he’d be a subscriber to your channel if he was still living.

[@DSX1]

@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ no space agency will ever send you on a mission to die, your life will put theme in debt, and it’s also a crime, even if you consent. : )

[@mk1cortinatony395]

9@@DSX1 theyve done it with soldiers for over 150 years (or more) why stop now ? lol

[@DonLee1980]

bless your grandfather.

[@Ellexis]

Sounds like a great man! Hopefully he wasn’t one of the deceased that “voted” for Biden.

[@DSX1]

@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ you know, I see a lot of ideas like yours on the internet recently. You haven't thought this through, only thinking of "this is cool" not "what happens after". Of course you are not alone in this, the internet has been trying to act very philosophical lately, but think about this. If I gave you the chance to be in a place on Earth undiscovered by civilization- a barren wasteland - you would call me crazy (although you may answer differently since this is the internet) because why would I send you to an unlivable terrain all alone with no food? You cannot colonize mars on your own. So if you want a one way trip, your gonna be going with others to colonize.

[@benjaminsmith4058]

For fun I did some quick Fourier analysis on the Chandrayaan 2 images vs. the LROC images. The analysis confirmed that the max resolution of the LROC camera is 1.0 m, which is the same value published by NASA. The Chandrayaan 2 OHR images have a resolution of at least 0.45 m. I say at least because the optical resolution was higher than the pixel resolution, so we can't measure the full optical resolution, but can say with certainty that it is at least 2x better than LROC. That said, the Chandrayaan 2 OHR images also show a classic signature of a small amount of motion blur in the vertical direction. Fortunately, if measured carefully, the motion blur artifact can be deconvolved from the original image, producing an image without motion blur. My guess is this is something they are working on right now. One other thing I noticed is that the pixel values (i.e. dynamic range) of the Chandrayaan 2 OHR images is around 10x higher than in the LROC images.

[@akashmazumder8235]

Dayum... What field of work are you in bro?

[@WetaMantis]

I suppose they can't track terrain and stabilise the image to keep it still during frame capture?

[@callsign_Elysium]

Legend

[@bearseatbeets2498]

Bruh this is a hell lot of technical jargon😂, anyways you seem to be a master of your art. Keep going👍

[@ashupatil9098]

@@akashmazumder8235 lol

[@SauerlandSlackliner]

These Images are amazing, i love just looking at them ...

[@shieldmate7444]

You could even print it and make a huge detailed wallpaper with this resolution.

[@Declan-pg8cg]

@keith moore It can be used anywhere. You don't have to be in Pakistan.

[@General12th]

@keith moore Also, these aren't pictures of Pakistan. They're pictures of the Moon. :)

[@Ron4885]

Me too. Should do the same thinking with Pluto, Io, Europa and Cyliene.

[@falxonPSN]

@@shieldmate7444 Ooooh! I could feel like I'm living on the moon! I like it!

[@micaiaskauss]

3:14 "HD, which is 1920 pickles across"

[@Touay.]

Thanks to modern technology, we now know the moon isn't made of cheese, it is made of pickles. ...... who could have predicted that!

[@Nuffsed81]

I'm pickle Rick...

[@albclean]

🤣

[@override7486]

FullPickle standard, very defined, smallest picture element in raster image. 1920p (pickles)!! Not some 720p or even worse 720i for babies. In fact, it looks like batteries made using pickles are better than any Li-Ion or even graphen batteries in development.

[@jeffnewcomb601]

@@override7486 19,200 pickles. ^^ I suppose we could call the FullPickle Standard a "plot."

[@deborahduthie4519]

That does look like a perfect square etched onto the surface at the very beginning. There’s is certainly archeology up there. One crater grows deeper in the middle with straight lines showing the steepness of the 3photo crater. Brilliant stuff India.

[@mjproebstle]

i haven’t seen craters of that resolution since i last looked at my face in the mirror

[@hennemmc5021]

Self roast those are rare

[@RobRoschewsk]

r/roastme

[@sudiptaranjanpatra1876]

Lol😂😂

[@AeroSpaced296]

😂😂lol

[@DeathValleyDazed]

Lunar dust allergic reaction = acne vulgaris as I prepare to crater with zit popping thumbs down. 👎

[@AlexanderBatyr]

7:42 ...this is a crater with a depressed object in the middle... - Yeah, absolutely, nice crater! 7:45 ...unless you got your eyes reversed and it looks like a mountain coming up! - WTF, I don't see crater anymore, my eyes are reversed now. What did you just do to me?

[@ufo2go]

Look the other way! 👀

[@LangstonJordan]

It wasn't a failure. Just a rapid unscheduled impactor mission.

[@TimLF]

R U I M does not quite have the same level of understatement, or role off the tongue in the same way. Maybe RUS (rapid unscheduled sprawl).

[@callsign_Elysium]

That would be funny as long as thats not the actual official statement

[@justusgoll9731]

They wanted to try a moon intercept Mission to prepare for a possible asteroid intercept mission.

[@callsign_Elysium]

@Sabir wut?

[@savageking3948]

@Sabir yes they're but smartest of em all

[@John.0z]

That is remarkable resolution, and an amazing recording process. Thank you Scott, and happy new year.

[@virajkhairnar369]

I think you should thank ISRO

[@tomboyd7109]

Delaying data from expensive time consuming experiments is pretty common practice in academia. You can't blame them for favoring their own PhD theses and other research papers. Go India!

[@Dylans_astro]

We neeeeeeeed to see the Apollo landing sites through this!

[@chriskennedy2846]

Good luck with that.

[@headcrab4090]

@@chriskennedy2846 Why is that? The LRO has pictures of the landing sites.

[@chriskennedy2846]

​@@headcrab4090 you can't really tell what anything is. Just a bunch of arrows telling you where the flag is etc., I would actually like to see much higher resolution at closer to horizontal angle. Kind of strange that with all of the money NASA has blown since the 1960s a justifiable spend would have been a 50th anniversary unmanned rover landing that would send back photos/video of such a historic location. It could have been combined with a mineral / Helium-3 study to further justify cost. I'm not saying the whole thing is a hoax and if you force me to choose a side I would say we probably did go and land but I know how capable the Gov't is of telling monstrous lies (JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, 1st gulf war - babies removed from incubators by Iraqi soldiers, 2nd gulf war -weapons of mass destruction....) so I am keeping an open mind.

[@michaelkoncal7622]

First they must exist!!!!!

[@blablabla1185]

Ask Buzz Aldrin where they are on the moon! Probably you will get a fun answer.

[@Thepher6]

It just takes a while to photoshop out all the aliens and Bezos' moon base

[@tirathfaldu]

😂😂😂😂 what about Elon Musk base and ship

[@fryede03]

@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ Or is it round? We only see one side of it! JK

[@ububox2087]

@keith moore 5G that shit keith!

[@tma2001]

yeah I saw a documentary about that starring Shia LaBeouf :)

[@gthakur17]

Bezos is Martian btw

[@TheZoltan-42]

When you said at the three-phase picture that "depending how you look at it", I consciously "inverted" my view, but I did not see a high mountain... I saw a black&white picture of a chameleon inspecting its surroundings. And musing on its menu: "Hm... fly good... fly safe..."

[@enjibkk6850]

😆

[@Zonkotron]

@Sabir Yeah, and ?

[@charliepark1122]

Good to see our foreign aid spent wisely.

[@joelmano103]

Love from India🇮🇳. I’ll never forget that depressing night, when the lander and rover were crashed onto the moon’s surface just the minutes before landing, while descending from orbiter. But feeling a little relief by seeing this amazing work from the orbiter. Waiting for the Chandrayaan 3 mission, which consists a lander and a rover.

[@whattha_huh]

You could use a Starship as a 50m measuring tool.

[@simongeard4824]

Only a 9m measuring tool, unless the rocket has tipped over on landing... and SpaceX aims for a somewhat higher standard than KSP players...

[@dotancohen]

@@simongeard4824 Maybe a StarShip _during_ landing. They're tipped over at that point (yes, I know, no atmosphere on the moon, it was a joke).

[@simongeard4824]

@@dotancohen they're presumably horizontal for the deorbit burn though, so yeah, if you know the altitude, you could use it...

[@Andrew-13579]

The Lunar Starship standing up and casting an accurate, simulated shadow on the surface. 😃

[@PlumSack79]

You could also have mentioned Muskwit at every opportunity like a deranged fanboy.

[@debayanDas]

I had the chance to attend the launch of Chandrayaan-2 last year. Had to scrape together a last minute plan to make it to the launch at Sriharikota on-time, but it was totally worth it! The sonic wave from the rocket has to be felt in person to truly appreciate it. Stayed up to watch the landing attempt ofc, but hard luck. Hope Chandrayaan-3 will ace it 🤞🏻

[@SPEARHEADGLOBAL]

and it did

[@paulbugnacki7107]

Thanks for taking the time to put those images together. It didn’t sound easy. Incredibly sharp images.

[@singleplaya0]

Thats all great, but when will we get street view?

[@moosemaimer]

There is a streetview of sorts for the Apollo missions, in Google Earth.

[@davros_adl8155]

2024 if Artemis holds its schedule?

[@ignorasmus]

Presumably after the streets have been bilt.

[@kartikpathak629]

Send google to moon.

[@RCAvhstape]

The Apollo rovers had camera masts on them, but they weren't omnidirectional like the google cams.

[@nethascotx24]

Am from India, I’m so proud how much ISRO has evolved from moving parts on bicycle to the VAB to international recognition and surpassing!

[@stargazer7644]

It's too bad they're as transparent as a mud puddle.

[@RCAvhstape]

I want to see images of the crash sites where the Saturn stages and LM ascent modules impacted.

[@srinitaaigaura]

There's a video of it. One amateur astronomer worked very hard to find out where they could have crashed. There's a doubt though that Apollo 11 LM might still be in orbit.

[@mybluemars]

Thank you Scott for your hard work and great explanations! I love push-broom imaging techniques that come in huge data sets such as this 94K by 12K.

[@amirsafari7140]

We want apollo pics for those who believe landing on moon was fake

[@ENTERtheCREATOR]

It wouldn't matter. Conspiracy theorists will always claim any evidence against their theory is faked. Pictures? Photoshopped. Video? CGI. Eye-witness accounts? Clearly they've been paid off. The only thing that would convince conspiracy theorists that we landed on the moon, the Earth is a spherical planet, there are no aliens in Area 51, etc. is them being present. They would need to be in a space shuttle themselves, observing the lunar landing sight, the spherical Earth, etc., etc...

[@TheMrCougarful]

Photoshop is still a thing.

[@macdjord]

Won't help. There've been plenty before - even ones where you could see the trails left by the astronauts (not individual foot prints, but distinct lines of disturbed terrain) - but to a conspiracy theorist, there are only two kinds of evidence: evidence that supports their theory, and evidence that the conspiracy _goes deeper than they ever imagined._

[@nerobernardino88]

@@ENTERtheCREATOR Also, they would need to be exposed to actual space or else they would claim it was just monitors in the windows.

[@ENTERtheCREATOR]

@@nerobernardino88 Ha! I have to admit, though, that would be some very efficient problem-solving.

[@TechGorilla1987]

Thank goodness you "learned to code." We appreciate it!

[@davidinvenio3094]

Well he HAD to write his own code since the size of some of those craters was "fractal". I'm a little surprised that there are comments about that. The stuff about jpg bombing out was another bit of hilarity. (software engineer, so yeah getting a kick)

[@DeathValleyDazed]

Scott, your technical skills and analysis are so much appreciated. Thanks for translating space stuff into “understandable” for an average dude like me!

[@coreys2686]

4:23 the left image is Chandrayaan. There's a few extra craters on that side.

[@bgbthabun627]

@Corey S, well spotted! it took me a while to see that. -_-

[@Kualinar]

Those images are awesome. My guess is that the first few months where mostly used to calibrate the camera and learn how to effectively use it.

[@noahgoodwin-rice6049]

I'd love to see those crater perspective shots in a side-by-side orientation that's more conducive for viewing as a stereogram

[@spaceflightnerd]

6:15 that crater looks like so weird lmao it feels like its infinitely deep

[@Релёкс84]

That's because the hole you think you're seeing is just the very sharp shadow of the right edge of the crater. The crater's bottom is actually relatively level but the shadow gives the illusion it abruptly drops.

[@spaceflightnerd]

@@Релёкс84 I know

[@hobbygaertner420]

That's an optical illusion. That is not a crater but a MOUNTAIN!

[@xlynx9]

Have you never been outside an atmosphere, Earther?

[@spaceflightnerd]

@@xlynx9 No, also I live on Mars

[@mikerichards6065]

It’s a shame India hasn’t released much data from this and their Mars orbiter - they’re both incredibly impressive achievements, so I hope their reticence isn’t down to any sense of embarrassment because something has gone wrong.

[@GyanTvAmit]

isro want all date to remain top secret, India's mars mission last long than expected,sorry for bad english

[@alantasman8273]

India is in solidarity with the international space community in keeping secret the structures that have been found on planets and moons throughout our solar system. Go to 6:44 and check out both larger craters for an example of what I mean.

[@ttruth1822]

Why should release ?? 😂. Lets keep secret first, else american will do copyright claim 😂

[@scottbreseke716]

Above Top Secret group needs time to get India to edit out the things we're not supposed to see.

[@danieltaylor5231]

They left the anti-scratch film on the lens.

[@captainTubes]

Tardigrades playing pinochle on the gyro again.

[@erikb8979]

Good job India. Keep up the good work. From USA

[@SwedePlaysGames]

7:40 Me too crater, me too...

[@steamsuhonen9529]

I appreciate you had a lot of trouble producing this video, but I still think it should have been in 4K resolution... ;-)

[@jonnymoka]

Thanks for the awesome work! Can’t wait to hear and see about more space science! If you always fly safe we will never advance! But it’s ok to wish us safe flying:) have fun Scott! Thank you! I am so excited I can’t quit yelling!

[@felipewozniak]

It is so nice to see one more country launching important space programs. Diversity and competition are important.

[@11moonshot]

Thank you so much of your ingenious work with the data! And for sharing your thoughts with us! True!! I'd also like very much to see - after some 50 years - the landing sites of the Apollos! Hopefully someone of the Chandrayaan team takes a peek at your channel!!! (But there are good chances they do... because this is one of the very best space-related channels in the world!!) Mike, Germany

[@scottmanley]

There are 0.5 meter photos of Apollo sites www.lroc.asu.edu/featured_sites/

[@olasek7972]

the landing sites of Apollo’s have been available in good resolution from LRO spacecraft for years now ...

[@DeputyNordburg]

@@scottmanley The Chandrayaan team released photos of the Apollo 11 & 12 sites in late 2021. It would be great to see a video about that.

[@Sololop]

I think a lot of people need to update their prescription. The left side was noticibly sharper. No question.

[@jamesstenhouse4113]

I am hoping that they get some new images of the Apollo mission sites. Great work once again Scott. Cheers from Canada l*l

[@deepaks8430]

LRO orbit: 50km Chandrayaan-2 orbit: 100km It does have a better camera but the mission objectives are different as chandrayaan-2 has many more instruments collecting data, camera was mainly used for identifying proper landing spot.

[@DhruvPatel-qp3ww]

Lander this year (Chandrayaan 3)

[@subhakantagmail]

Those who continuing to say Chandrayaan-2 was a complete failure should see this video to understand the orbitor high-res camera collecting data for next mission even though the lander Vikram failed. I am sure these images and other data helped the next Chandrayaan-3 mission for the great success.

[@fbn7766]

Chandrayaan - 2 wasn't a failure. But to the public it kinda is. The reason being ISRO's failure to make the data public. ISRO is a public sector agency, the amount of data expected for a mission like Chandrayaan 2 with its advanced equipments are huge. But in reality the data available to the public feels very constrained and little. This hinders new innovations and discoveries. There still isn't a paper on why the lander failed. Papers like these shape new generations of innovators. What ISRO is achieving is very brilliant. But making it private reduces the hype around it.

[@stargazer7644]

It wasn't a complete failure. It did make it to the Moon. That's hard enough.

[@dextermorgan1]

They couldn't show the rest of the HD pics from the moon because nobody is ready to have the conversation about what's up there. 🤷‍♂️

[@cost-pluscontent2371]

>takes the best photos of craters >becomes one coincidence?

[@fifagamer1857]

you are what you photograph

[@fifagamer1857]

@@spaceflightnerd haha what?

[@spaceflightnerd]

@@fifagamer1857 nvm i am dumb

[@RealHogweed]

"to understand the crater, you have to be the crater"

[@angelarch5352]

"When you stare into the crater, the crater stares back at you!"

[@I2yantheGreat]

good job india!! love from usa

[@jasperkennis8499]

You’re always hinting on how you programmed all kinds of cool things you show in your videos. I know it’s somewhat off topic but could you do a video more about your career and the kind of skills you use to do these things? Pleeeease!? Okay thanks!

[@badjebediah4756]

I was having a perfectly normal day looking at craters... and then you said it looked like a mountain and I can't unsee it now.

[@5Andysalive]

Makes you appreciate Nasa, Esa Jaxa and others. And how they (have to) operate and what they add to science for everybody. Besides it's just NOT embarassing to crash when trying to land a space probe. It just happens. To everybody. What is embrassing is that cringy comedy show that happened afterwards. That has damaged the image of Indias space program a LOT more than the crash itself. Frankly, you just look better if you're open about it. Like Israel was.

[@chedagoz7145]

What happened afterwards? not Indian myself.

[@motokid6008]

Yeah what do you mean by " cringy comedy show"? Was there something in India that made fun of the mission?

[@ignorasmus]

As an avid science and astronomy enthusiast from India, I totally agree with you. Just like SN8, the Chandrayan 2 mission was really something to be proud of - despite the landing failures. It is sad that pointless, needless, nationalistic chest thumping has become the primary activity in India since last 6-8 years. It is even messing up with the covid vaccine situation where an "Indian vaccine" needs to be approved and rolled out before any of the "western" ones. There are concerns being raised about the thoroughness of the Indian vaccines due to this hurried implementation.

[@5Andysalive]

@@ignorasmus I can not possibly judge from halfway around the world. But even here it is noticed that the current rulers seem to fancy the idea of a dictatorship and coming down hard on democraty and various minorities. When this makes the news in Europe it has to be quite noticable.

[@neithere]

@@ignorasmus as a Russian... let me hug you and cry together

[@TechMasterRus]

- "Why so little data?" - "They are drawing Apollo landing sites right now" )))

[@nikhilchandra2293]

“They point to applo landing site but can't find anything so USA asked ISRO not to release any data or...!! Hence very little data.” Good theory to feed my lunar sceptic friends 😂

[@angelarch5352]

Well... the USA better hurry up with some secret launches to dump a bunch of that garbage onto the moon surface quick to save face. Just say that the "Moon storms" hit the Apollo landing sites which explains why all the landers and junk is knocked over and strewn about randomly... :)

[@odysseusrex5908]

Don't give "them" any ideas.

[@kurunthalingamm897]

Thanks for reviewing our one of the moon mission. Proud to be an Indian.

[@Forest_Fifer]

They've taken more photos, they just haven't had time to download them from the moon yet...

[@Angrymuscles]

There's no shame in failure. Disappointment yes, but not shame. Sending hardware to the Moon is an exclusive club, it's something to be quite proud of. I'm pleased and thrilled to see them do what they've done in the pursuit of science, and I look forward to further such endeavors in the future.

[@alzandermuller]

At 3:58, the split comparison gives a very subtle parallax that lets you see the depth in 3d when you look at it cross eyed. It's not perfect, but it will give you a sense of how tall those hills are. Same thing for 7:14, if you tilt your phone and go cross eyed, you can see the depth of that crater. Very neat!

[@osiversen]

Orbit to ground images is always nice, but I wish there was a lot of ground level photos

[@justinmcginty6815]

Good show India. Great science. From Australia

[@MysteryScoop]

3:55 there is definitely an artificial object in that small crater, middle of the screen...

[@GeorgeTsiros]

94e3 x 12e3 pixels means... eh... approx. 100e3 x 10e3 = 1000e6 = 1e9 so 1 billion pixels and considering we're talking about computers, it will either use 3 or 4 bytes per pixel so to keep it uncompressed in memory, you'd have to allocate a 3 or 4 GB contiguous chunk of memory. That, in itself, is straightforward for 64 bit systems (and probably even 32bit systems with PAE but icba to investigate)... the problem however is that you can't expect the graphics card to accept that kind of texture image. Common maximum sizes are around 8000 for each dimension. Even if they supported 10 times that, it would still not be enough. The only practical solution is keep the data compressed and display only uncompressed sections. This to be done efficiently, requires the data to be in a specific compressed format. I am confident there are programs out there created for this exact purpose. Hell, even my calculator has one...

[@Killbayne]

Imagine a Moon Orbiter that orbits at less than a kilometer..

[@erikz1337]

It would probably crash pretty fast since the moons gravity is uneven

[@spaceflightnerd]

Wouldn't last very long, would it?

[@Formula1st]

I’m sure we could think of a way to get science out of a ‘how low can you go’ challenge

[@diesistkeinname795]

A better camera would be more reasonable. Longer focal length, larger aperture and better sensor configuration etc.

[@FrikInCasualMode]

It would need a very capable station keeping propulsion system to stay in such orbit for long.

[@subhranshukashyap5877]

Hey Scott, you will be happy to know that India is again going to moon in 2021 with new chandrayaan-3 which only contains a Rover which will make you to study more data........Respect to you from India😊

[@scottmanley]

Posted before you watched the whole video right?

[@subhranshukashyap5877]

Yup

[@subhranshukashyap5877]

Atleast you replied me for the first time in 6 years😊

[@plupkination]

Pretty capable cameras they have there! Hopefully they will do more structured sets of images, and release a lot more pics in the future.. One thing he mentions with the three pics of the crater at different angles, is the tendency of your eyes to get "reversed", where you see what is actually a crater, as a mountain instead.. THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS TO ME ALL THE TIME WITH SPACE IMAGES, AND IT DRIVES ME CRAZY! loll! It generally happens more with high resolution, monochrome images, but it seems to happen quite a bit for me regardless of the image type! Is there a name for this phenomenon? I find myself often trying to 'reset' my eyesight to see the image properly, and sometimes it can take quite awhile.. I have found it helps to look at one thing in the image, and try to re-focus properly, as opposed to looking all around and hoping things will 'pop' back to their correct orientation.. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this odd visual phenomenon, what its called, and what you may have discovered to either prevent it from happening, or to get your eyes to see the images properly!

[@shivamanand3686]

Yeah ...I have seen this common phenomenon in my child hood when I visited a science centre nearby ...it's called hollow face illusion I guess ...

[@shipofthesun]

4:37 At standard zoom, very hard to tell. But when you push in, the righthand image starts fuzzing up noticeably. It's all about the pixels, baby. 8:37 I would pay good money for a large format framed photo of an Apollo site. The LM is our best flying machine to date.

[@janzahradka]

Those side by side images create amazing 3D view of the surface! despite taken from different spacecrafts in different time. Perfectly aligned and synced, Scott 👏. (I am viewing it on my phone by naked eyes adjusting my sight that left eye looks at the left image and right eye at the right one, cheap and instant but need some practice:-)

[@pankajsaikia1986]

After reading your comment I also watched that part in 3D with my nacked eye by adjusting the focus, and man that's look amazing.

[@sgn4899]

Agree photos of the apollo landers should have at least been added.

[@icegiant1000]

You did some coding? GOOD MAN! (I'm a software developer myself, and have worked with oceans of different file formats, both image and 3d, it certainly can get overwhelming!)

[@General12th]

Software development is Mr. Manley's day job.

[@viveknayak9899]

He works at Apple, buddy

[@shankd.4924]

Wow India is the Best, World No. 1 🇮🇳👍

[@TropicalGardenGuy]

Wow thats clear!, except 50 years ago we could have used a microscope on the moon! Now thats close up!

[@Emophiliac2]

Except you would have to jump up when you take the photo, to meet the criteria.

[@my3dviews]

@@Emophiliac2 Huh? Why would you have to jump up?

[@Emophiliac2]

@@my3dviews It is highest resolution images of the Moon From Orbit. If you're on the ground, then you're not in orbit.

[@my3dviews]

@@Emophiliac2 Okay, but if the criteria is that you have to be in orbit, then jumping up wouldn't satisfy the criteria either. You need enough horizontal velocity to make orbit as well.

[@vishaldwdi]

Fantastic Longtime subscriber Love from India.

[@moehudson001]

Scott, I loved the scale you put on the image. It certainly gives perspective on features what we have no day-to-day interaction with. However, what would really drive the relative sizes would be a reference to known objects.....so, for example....where you have 200m..put a superimposed football field. Or where further out...put a known city for reference or a known lake. I mean...the Osirus mission...it would be nice to see a car parked in the area where the debris was taken from. I could then really relate the sizes. Or, for example, images of the moon surface taken by the astronauts in the 70s where we see a mountain far away....put a few ghost landmarks for size along to the horizon (maybe the Eiffel tower at a few locations.) I love your vids...the perfect amount of info. Maybe you can make a video focused on relative feature sizes compared to known everyday objects and explain why it's so hard for our minds to visualize them correctly? everything from a closeup of asteroids, to features on Pluto, to sunspots, to Moon landings, Mars horizon pictures....etc.

[@navdeepsengh]

LRO did a great job too so far in mapping the entire surface. It's imagery is however magnitudes lower than what CY-2 can do.

[@olasek7972]

Can do? Clearly it can’t do if it isn’t doing it, results so far are pitiful

[@BlackHawkTejas]

@@olasek7972 Images in not released to public doesn't mean the camera is not capable. They are keeping thr high quality, highly detailed images with them for now. Guess jumping the gun is your speciality!

[@olasek7972]

@@BlackHawkTejas no comrade, I don’t believe for a second in this nonsense that they are on purpose not releasing those images. If you want believe in this crap - it is a free country.

[@BlackHawkTejas]

@@olasek7972 Then comrade you have very little knowledge about India & ISRO. You can take your crap somewhere else. You haven't backed your claims. Maybe you can fix your NS first!

[@olasek7972]

@@BlackHawkTejas your “knowledge” is laughable, yeah, if you find someone gullible enough to believe you - good luck.👍

[@RogerGarrett]

Thank you, Scott. It would b great, with all your imaging expertise, if you could chop those huge unwieldy files into smaller, more manageable, sizes so that lots of people could down load them and view them with their not-so-capable imaging programs.

[@bradbrown8759]

Beautiful. Nice work India. If your gonna do it... Do it big.

[@kylecramer8489]

Zoom! Enhance!

[@L1ft0ff]

Jesus Christ it's Scott Manley

[@heitorasf]

We waited for decades for high res images like that. Great o/

[@TheHacknor]

Why is India so secretive with its space activities, it doesn't say much when even China is more open about their operations

[@bragr_]

I wouldn't say China is more open. Sure the Indians have had poor communication about this, but at least they live streamed the landing attempt. China is known to not announce something until after it is already over.

[@adolfodef]

Because China has a real chance to enter one day in a real (hot) war with India. Then, since India is still uncappable of doing "much" on the Moon (while China is expecting to land people & even mine some stuff); releasing to the public this valuable visual & radar data would only help India´s "future enemy" [so there is a military/political interest on keeping it secret]. -> If you become one of their best scientists & citizens (wife & children living inside India for years), you may get access to this files as a "source" for your tesis [after signing an N.D.A. that basically says their "Men in Black" will make you """dissapear""" if you try to "spy out" the data].

[@manofsan]

India certainly hypes its missions on Twitter. I think it's just the crash stuff that they weren't forthcoming on, probably because they were embarrassed. And mainly, the crash was an event they didn't plan for, so they had no plan in place to deal with it.

[@mxn1948]

@@bragr_ only military stuff is secretive and even then most of the launched are known(but the payload is a mystery), the chinese moon landers and rover launches were known about months in advanced by the public. the latest moon sample launch didn't get a proper live stream(only amature streams) but the entire landing back on earth was live streamed from the moment it enter earth's atmosphere, including thermo vision of the capsule coming down from the sky. just because western media calls it secretive and didn't cover it in news at all, doesnt mean its actually secretive if you actually paid attention to space news. they even publish roadmaps for the next 5 years or so for their moon and mars projects, latest news is their new space station core is going up in feb.

[@mviv6339]

@@mxn1948 u r Chinese

[@newworld6190]

top space agency of 2020 1. NASA 2. ISRO 3.Roscosmos 4.European Space Agency 5.Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency

[@yangshujian]

Who made such ranking? You?

[@newworld6190]

@@yangshujian no surendra modi of india.

[@yangshujian]

@@newworld6190 Link? 😂

[@Veptis]

Hope that Google earth (kinda ironic I guess), adds this data. Which is a great tool to explore the moon at high resolution and even get the surface panoramas etc.

[@argh1989]

Check out Space Engine, although I think it's no longer free but maybe you can find an old version.

[@Snailmailtrucker]

F Google !

[@Veptis]

@@Snailmailtrucker if you as friend of Google, why are you on KZbin?

[@malluspacetech1477]

Waiting for chandrayan-3 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@thePronto]

Scott, that's a monochrome close-up of a poppadom.

[@AeroCraftAviation]

😂😂😂 Best comment!

[@nondimensional4977]

Interesting distribution. What is the explanation for the boulder clusters at 8:18 and 8:45 toward the end of the video?

[@odysseusrex5908]

Alien Feng Shui.

[@darrenkay2293]

Good one the Apollo landing sites. Nice

[@MrHichammohsen1]

Saw your tweet early and was waiting for this to drop! Fly safe guys.

[@UpcycleElectronics]

I don't understand how anyone can see these images and avoid forming a bunch of questions. Awesome upload. Thanks for sharing.

[@MrZerlex]

7:37 If you put two Pictures Side by side and cross your eyes till both pictures overlap, you can make out the 3 Dimention. Similer to Those magic Hologram picture books. Cheers Edit: (Left Pic; Cone Middle) (Right Pic; Cone Left) this will display correctly

[@GauravSharma-dy8xv]

Lol I watch 3D movies with this technique 😂

[@MrZerlex]

@@GauravSharma-dy8xv and you're not crosseyed? 🥴 😂

[@GauravSharma-dy8xv]

@@MrZerlex Obviously I never watch full 3D movies, I love my eyes😂 It hurts after 5-6 minutes. So few scenes only at a time.

[@chandankuamr8887]

Proud To Be An *INDIAN*

[@NoSTs123]

I need to port it to Google Earth immideatly.

[@Damien.D]

Google *Moon* ;)

[@Touay.]

@@Damien.D damn google maps ... I'm trying to get to southend-on-sea .... how the hell did I end up at the sea of tranquility!?

[@court2379]

So what you learned is, 40% if your poll cannot see very well...

[@philipwells2793]

I don't think India is going to reveal SHADO's moonbase, hence the lack of imagery.

[@dt8129]

Space agency didn't even reveal failure report on Vikram lander. They have started testing Vikram-2 lander as well but never revealed any progress. That's more secretive than Chinese space agency tbh

[@Sathish_12]

@@dt8129 somebody hacked the rover or it malfuctioned becaz later images revealed the rover is found a few kilometers away from the original landing positions

[@zero1zero184]

Sadly Philip, these people have no clue.. S.I.D:- UFO detected, Sector Green, speed SOL 7. "Red Alert, Red Alert" Interceptors immediate launch!

[@prateekgupta5945]

@@Sathish_12 hacked..? That's some serious bollywood bullshit. Hacking into such a system is only possible via radio and link is next to impossible. First of all, program for landing is mostly autonomous on such probes, which is again hard-coded in the flight control software which takes data from onboard sensors, and acts as governed by those hard coded instructions. If manual intervention are at all allowed, one has to know what frequency is used to connect with the probe. Even if you get that info, another challenge is the commands that the probe would respond to which in turn requires thorough knowledge of the onboard software. Again, even if you get that, you can't broadcast anything without being detected. If you've looked the live simulation which they were showing during the webcast, it shows that the probe rotated rather abruptly, which in this case is only possible if there is a problem with the sensors, most probably IMU, or data corruption due to radiation or some rookie mistake in the hard-coded landing program. Whatever it was, ISRO is never disclosing it but it was definitely not a "hacking".

[@divyanshukumar8557]

Congrats...u just got highest number of views ever by adding word 'India' in video name

[@scottmanley]

This is my worst performing video in weeks.

[@kunjukunjunil1481]

@@scottmanley 😂😂

[@kunjukunjunil1481]

@@scottmanley But you only had two videos in this week😂. Joke aside , space X is the magnet on KZbin when it comes to sci-tech channel viewership .

[@boazeilander3617]

Still can't believe that Scott has the same Interests as me. Space and synthesizers.

[@DonSolaris]

I just spot Behringer 303. Anything else he has?

[@scottmanley]

I have a Volca Modular and a bunch of Pocket Operators as well as a ton of Soft Synths.

[@boazeilander3617]

@@scottmanley the pocket operators are pure fun, i have 2 myself.

[@DonSolaris]

@@scottmanley Nice and modern! I just have old junk: Jupiter 8, Prophet 5, OB-X, Xpander, MiniMoog, SH-5, Emulator II+ and many many others.

[@seng1v5]

as someone that works in film I find it strange how quick the creators go to black, it’s almost like a solid line then a uneven shadow from creator edges

[@beenaplumber8379]

Someone who knows about camera optics should understand the effect of atmospheric light scattering, which is not a factor on the moon. (I'm new to photography, and even I know about that.) You should also understand there are no distance cues present in these images to give a sense of scale. From a distance, the blur around shadows becomes less apparent. These photos were taken from orbit, which is usually pretty far from the surface.

[@RobertEmery]

Pretty amazing images! On a side note, yt close captioning cannot handle Scott's accent *at* *all!* ... but omg is it funny to read

[@TeVolt805]

KZbin seems to think the original language is VIETNAMESE! It usually get is right and does a lot better than it has this time.

[@sparker599]

haha, yes. 9:13: your dad is just replacement for android 10:53 Quantum astronautic Encore Need for Speed

[@PlumSack79]

No voice activated program can a handle Scottish accent, it's a real issue, I was trapped in a voice activated lift for 2 fucking days. I lost my fucking voice asking it to open the fucking door. Turns out I'd entered a broom closet by mistake.

[@PlumSack79]

I learnt alot about myself over those two days, turns out I have a fettish for old janitor gentlemen. Because when he rescued me I turned his mop bucket over, sat on it and sucked him off to show my gratitude..

[@spacex3144]

Chandryan 2 sequal is arriving " Chandryan 3 this year "

[@prashanthr4322]

Can't wait to see it , as I hav heard that they r going to make significant changes even in its design....

[@dlmickelsen]

Resolution is a "quarter of a meter" sounds like metric need a new unit 25cm = 1 manley

[@override7486]

LOL. Just now I noticed how weird (and idiotic) it sounds. Let's use metric... but not quite.

[@kjzwaagstra]

I am going to use this unit in my profession of engineering henceforth.

[@Forest_Fifer]

So 10 inches is pretty Manley?

[@PlumSack79]

A humble guy

[@stephenbenner4353]

The nice thing about your two images side by side is that while watching them on my phone I crossed my eyes and saw a 3D image of the lunar surface.

[@sproctor1958]

Only Vietnamese Closed Caption? ...sorry...i just can't...

[@kartikpathak629]

Yeah. I also got fooled.

[@ojkolsrud1]

To all Indian people - nothing to be ashamed of here. Next time you'll probably fully succeed! The Images look amazing, can't wait for the full dataset! Also, I have to say, I really liked how Modi reacted when it was clear that the lander was lost. He seemed so compassionate and proud of everyone, despite the lander failure. I know he's not popular with everyone, but his display as a leader while at ISRU was admirable.

[@thedimensionalidea8396]

Yes, we Indians should accept the failer in a better way. Speaking of Modi, he has the highest acceptance rate than any leader in the world.

[@ojkolsrud1]

@@thedimensionalidea8396 Definitely! Would you say that the Indian people weren't proud of what they achieved, since the lander failed? Regarding Modi, I have my info from some of my Indian colleagues. Only one of them didn't didn't like Modi, but unfortunately I can't remember why.

[@thedimensionalidea8396]

@@ojkolsrud1 No, the general Indian population is super proud of ISRO achievements. Most people here understand these failures are just a stepping stone. The issue is few others have a pessimistic mindset, and when Modi visited ISRO center that day, the opposition parties here made it a political thing and gave it a negative connotation.

[@ojkolsrud1]

@@thedimensionalidea8396 Good to hear that they are! If they were able to make Modis visit into something negative, then they're good. I thought Modi was genuinely uplifting in his approach. I don't know so much about his policies, but at least I really like him for his visit to ISRO.

[@thedimensionalidea8396]

@@ojkolsrud1 Yeah, he is quite pro-science/development. ISRO's budget more than doubled in 5 years since he came into power.

[@wan7ucxOqSUBryTgfpBr7777]

2:15 those are lunar towers !! look at the shadows, they must be no less than 100m tall 😄

[@crawlinginfilm9683]

Or the land slopes downwards where the shadows are

[@Dwayne_Green]

Theoretically, you could see the Lunar landers with this camera!