India Scraps No-detention Policy for School Students | Vantage with Palki Sharma

[@knuckleheadninja2307]

Drop out rates will surely increase in the initial years but trust me this will only benefit the students, it will also work in increasing the accountability of government teachers.

[@devilisbackk]

Yes it will increase their awareness about the tough education policy and they would eventually put more efforts to pass the exams. These days half of the students literally take things for granted because anyhow they will be pushed and promoted to the next class even after failing....let this bring good change among the students and the management.

[@nitishvidyadharan8240]

@@knuckleheadninja2307 , also pressurise students to pass 3rd language which is useless and failing a student just because he failed in 3rd language even though he is good in other subjects. Why is govt after 3 languages. It shpuld be optional to learn 3 languages not compulsary.

[@knuckleheadninja2307]

@@nitishvidyadharan8240 you can put forth this argument for any subject of the curriculum, our generation also had 3 subjects, I can speak and write 4 languages same goes for the majority of Indians, the more we learn the better.

[@rynreaperz8716]

@@knuckleheadninja2307 why only accountability of govt school teachers? What about accountability of govt to develop the infrastructures and the other offices and agencies of the education department who are way more irresponsible than govt school teachers...

[@nitishvidyadharan8240]

@knuckleheadninja2307 , learning 4 languages is not necessary. I have studied 2 languages till tenth amd third language sanskrit in 9th which i barely passed by copying. Third language had no use in my life. If by ur logic someone else will come and say six languages is essential. Can we then force to learn.6 languages. In most of the developed countries only one language is taught. Other languages are taught as optional. I am succesful as per my expectation without learning 3rd language. I never used 3rd language in my life. Learning more than 2 languages should be optional not compulsion. If someone has interest to learn more than 2 languages then let them learn. Dont force others to learn.

[@moments4842]

Again, India is not ready to develop. People are opposing this scrapping. Have you ever encountered with an eighth class student not able to solve a division, not able to read a line of English without stuttering? I have, and trust me, you feel pity for them. This no detention policy ruined the value of education. It should have been scrapped a long time ago

[@jyotideshpande3593]

Very true

[@thehawkseye3412]

BS.. This idea of "no detention" policy was introduced during MMS time only and in name of modernization claiming that US has this policy, implying it was "development". + Everyone knows who re the people opposing it.

[@eltonalvares8480]

Same here

[@pyxis02]

I used to tutor students of class 5 to class 12th during my bachelors degree, guess what; even though govt had reduced syllabus, had difficulty in covering the topics; few of them used to say "the school won't fail them, even they don't study" and the thing I observed in class 10 student is that they can't even solve the basic mathematical problems of substraction and division; I am just 23M but still when I check the syllabus that we had and the syllabus they are having now, I fail to recognize why they are struggling to study. If we look the students now a days, they are carrying lots and lots of books i their bag each and nd everyday, but don't have aptitude in their head. They can only solve the problems, that they have practiced in school, also only if all the numbers matches the same.

[@karthikeyan53]

Lol, It's the mistake of teachers.

[@Kt6000-r1p]

Automatically promoted that's why even some class 9 students can't even do simple calculation 😢... tutoring them is a nightmare 😂

[@Shuvadeep-xp5es]

Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those basic calculation, its ur fvcking duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student

[@Shuvadeep-xp5es]

Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those basic calculations , its ur duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student

[@oeirkdkroor]

​@@Shuvadeep-xp5esno it's the fault of the education system itself because people just do ratta and pass the exams people don't learn anything by passing exams upto class 10th they just do it to clear them

[@yahooyahoo5692]

​@@Shuvadeep-xp5es it's easy to bark

[@souravsahu2328]

You can't ask a higher class teacher to teach lower class topics as they have their own pedagogy also in a class of 50-60 students you can't teach every student as per their standards. ​At the end of the day you need to complete the syllabus else management to deo. everyone will blame you.@@Shuvadeep-xp5es

[@winchester_deanna7539]

As a university educator, this is a welcome change… most of the time the kids that pass out of schools and come to colleges and universities are clearly not prepared for the consequences of their own choices and parents are not doing a good job either… the constant coddling is spoiling everyone…

[@lloydtc1139]

you are really right

[@HarshMishra22301]

Our pass criteria is 33% aggregate out of this , 20% from projects If a student can't score 13 marks in 2/3 hours of exam, they should be failed at any cost Passing them ahead without any merit only produces useless candidates who then go to blame govt

[@java2architect]

Exactly. People don't realize this. In Engineering colleges passing percentage in India is 40. In the US it is 60. Indians supposed to be smart right?

[@HarshMishra22301]

@@java2architect In ISC & CBSE 12th, there are few subjects where total written paper is of 70 marks so a student has to get just 3-5 marks to pass in theory papers Those ppl who pass with these marginal marks achieve nothing in their life unless they are god-gifted

[@Anant_Agrawal]

​@@HarshMishra22301 No man,for getting passed in exam in CBSE, you need to score 33% of the 80 marks = 27 marks in theory exam seperately irrespective of your score you recieved in Practicals/Assignments. Government done the right thing...

[@Akashkrsingh806]

Bro... Correct your knowledge.... You still need to score 33% marks in written to qualify... Not just 33 marks....

[@HarshMishra22301]

@@Akashkrsingh806 Some schools take the aggregate 33% atleast in ISC

[@ssingh2516]

I'm an educator. When a child fails and is still promoted to the next class due to no detention policy, his/her classmates know about is very well. The child is still outcasted. I have come across students who didn't know basic tables and couldn't do things like 3 digit addition without mistakes in 8th class. We want well educated and hard working children, not some spoiled brats educated only on papers. The BJP govt should have scrapped this policy in 2014 only.

[@Bhairavvvv]

And all the well educated kids are fueling the cog wheel 😅

[@Shuvadeep-xp5es]

Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those 3 digit addition, its ur fvcking duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student

[@Shuvadeep-xp5es]

Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those 3 digit addition, its ur duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student

[@Shuvadeep-xp5es]

And as a result there will be more criminals in the society

[@Shuvadeep-xp5es]

And as a result there will be more criminals in the society

[@bharat8096]

Good decision many students of class 9,10th don't know basic education they need to be serious about education

[@nitishvidyadharan8240]

What about student who is way ahead in science and maths but fails as he fails in third language which is of no use at all.

[@AnuragR-v4l]

​@@nitishvidyadharan8240 bro I myself am from a science and research background. Other subjects before 11th are nothing more than general knowledge, everyone should know it. You don't need to rote learn in other subjects as well.

[@medicamedico4335]

@@nitishvidyadharan8240 Pass hone hai, top thodi karna hai

[@nitishvidyadharan8240]

@medicamedico4335 , pass hona bhi mushkil hai. Uskeliya dusre subject me jitna aasan hai top hona utna mushkil hai sanskrit me pass hona jiska koi use nahi hai.

[@AnuragR-v4l]

@@nitishvidyadharan8240 mere school me bhi sanskrit compulsory tha 10th tak

[@PeilinSong]

India is doing right thing!

[@ash_aaa]

Having less teacher is not the policy issue rather administration issue

[@aravindhanveeramani856]

Its crazy how many people appear for Teacher exam and there are still vacancy in that post

[@esdeathsama9323]

Because most of th people can't pass the exam and the rest can't pss the interview. And even those who get selected they don't know HOW TO TEACH. So even if they do pass exam it's not worth it cuz all they think is "oh good now I have a govt job" ashh hi ashh​@@aravindhanveeramani856

[@Varun32924]

@@aravindhanveeramani856 they are lack of teacher staff

[@FlexQG]

​​@@aravindhanveeramani856bro there are teachers but no post ...in my village there were two teachers for class 1-5..when students enrollment is low they blame the teachers...but the same authority won't dare send their children in this school because of less number of teachers... hypocrite

[@ash_aaa]

@@Varun32924 let Panchayat play roles. Whr issues are there.. Not recruit but run. From what they have to what they wanna build i guess they will gind better solution.. Unless power of democracy.. Let solution come from root lvl.. Step by step

[@philipjacob1979]

1 teacher for 60 students is definitely a huge disaster. But a bigger disaster is 1 teacher for 30 students or less and still churning out failures. Why? Because teachers have many months of salary due to them and so they are not interested/invested to teach or less interested to stay. Teachers leave schools at an alarming rate per year, that students of 10th grade who have to show up for their public exam next year, remain confused as to the syllabus covered and where they have to pick up from. And this issue starts from 7th grade!! I am talking about CBSE schools in UAE. The quality of education is not just in the students hands or the schemes by the government. It is with everyone. And in the group of everyone, al lot is in the hands of the adults starting from the governments, boards, teachers and parents.

[@Sudeep.Manerkar]

True

[@neetarao4563]

True

[@AA-IS]

@@philipjacob1979 u mean to say education system is better in UAE?

[@philipjacob1979]

@AA-IS On the contrary in most schools. There are of course a few which still maintains high standards.

[@nerf2752]

4:45 1 teacher per 60 student class is everywhere in india almost no matter how many cherries you put on a turd it won't become a cake. No one addressing fundamental problems.

[@shivu6377]

I studied in a small public school till class 5th and they only had around 25-40 children per class and teachers paid far more attention to each child and sometimes even taught multiple subjects. Even the Principal Mam used to teach different subjects, this made the Principal more approachable and respectful. I now think that it probably wasn't bad because the teachers gave more attention to every student, unlike the 60+ students classrooms in my prestigious secondary school

[@drkirankumar4126]

Quality of education should be improved not play with students life

[@Sanguine3466]

I give tuition classes and yes this policy is needed. Today's 9th class student don't even understand a basic calculation, let alone solving the questions on their own (despite having only 60% of the previous syllabus as many chapters have been removed from the books ). There is no concept of self study in today's generation's life.

[@nitishvidyadharan8240]

What about student who is way ahead in science and maths but fails as he fails in third language which is of no use at all.

[@Sanguine3466]

@@nitishvidyadharan8240 13 marks is not much to get. One can get it with even minimum efforts.

[@prajaktajoshi4794]

​@@nitishvidyadharan8240 it never happened... If he can passed in science and math.. he can easily score in language wether he likes it or not... And for your kind information... Languages are necessary... Wether you like it or not.. if you don't have knowledge of language you are missing out great literatures of your own language because you are not able to understand it

[@Komaralasivakrishna]

I feel you

[@nitantjoon1975]

Yeah I agree with self study part

[@The_Math_Enthusiast]

Very good. Everyone learns at a different rate. If they'll fail then they will have one more year to grasp those concepts and build a stronger foundation. If the base is weak, they will not be able to cope with higher studies. We only have to change one thing: the mentality of the society towards those being detained, they are not weak, just need some more time to learn.

[@Nevermore-g2h]

Aur phir degree lekar chai becho dukan pe 🤡

[@The_Math_Enthusiast]

@Nevermore-g2h Abe abhi degree leke chai isliye bechna pad rha hai logon ko kyunki foundation weak hai, degree ek paper ka tukda hai aur employability nhi depict karta. Jabtak basics clear nhi honge tabtak kaise koi apna degree se mile education ko use karega?

[@anamethatlastsforeverinternet]

@@The_Math_EnthusiastI am repeated a grade when I was young, trust me when I say that constant feeling of knowing u couldv have been in the next grade sends u to hardcore depression with solution Back then I almost considered $$uii side

[@kedarchougule9067]

The idea that repeating a year in school-often called "grade retention"-might have a positive effect on a child is debated within the scientific community. While some may believe it helps a child catch up academically, the evidence from research is mixed, with many studies showing more negative or neutral effects than positive ones. Key Findings from Research: Short-Term Academic Improvement: Some studies suggest that, in the short term, students who repeat a grade might show slight academic improvements immediately after the retention. This could be due to more time spent on the same material, and the opportunity to master it. Long-Term Negative Effects: Research generally points to long-term negative effects associated with grade retention. These include: Lower self-esteem: Repeating a grade can cause emotional and social challenges. Students may feel stigmatized or less competent, leading to lower self-confidence. Increased dropout rates: Retained students are statistically more likely to drop out of school, particularly if retention is repeated or if they face challenges in later academic years. Worsened social outcomes: Being older than peers can result in social isolation, bullying, or a sense of being disconnected from classmates. Ineffective for Academic Growth in the Long Run: While some research indicates short-term academic gains, evidence suggests that these gains often fade over time. After a few years, retained students often catch up to their peers or may even fall behind again. Better Alternatives: Many experts argue that interventions such as additional tutoring, smaller class sizes, and individualized learning strategies are more effective than retention. These approaches address the child's specific academic needs without the social and emotional drawbacks of repeating a year.

[@Bappichakraborty5705]

This is a brilliant move. Many students can't solve simple Grammar exercises of English and other languages.

[@anilkumarn.m3252]

Sometimes failure is better than success...... I passed all classes with distinction and got a good employment and now at 65 my assets 1.5 crores. My 10 th classmate who had failed in all exams started doing business and now at 65 his assets 211 crores...... Now a question arises..... Who is more successful in life? 😂

[@Asura_clan]

So he got motivated from failing ?

[@manojsuri007]

Your classmate knew the art of becoming wealthy. You knew the art of pleasing people around you. That's the main difference.

[@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups]

Education is not limited to school Life is also education He gained practical skill not ratta marao padhai And business is also very competative Very few individual without any support can do it effectively He must have worked hard than you

[@anuj_s_world]

You can't use 1 example for everything. He had a natural talent in business which he discovered due to his failure. That's different. There are countless examples of kids who lost all hope and committed suicide because they failed and couldn't tolerated facing their parents and society with shame. They failed; they didn't commit murder but that's how society here looks at them.

[@msdolly6101981]

Your classmate must be a politician 😅 that's the only profession in India where failures succeed 😅

[@melalcantara4377]

In the Philippines this is normal. Teachers failing their students if they don't perform or passed. Some students can't accept it and committed suicide. Hope this won't happen to Indian students.

[@richanigam2097]

Failure and handling failure is a very important lesson of life , more important is for the parents to teach perseverance and fight back attitude than creating shock absorber. These absorbers don't exist in real life what will they do then ?

[@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups]

And also we to decrease work load of students Give them some experiential learning So they can easily passed and also learn effectively

[@thehawkseye3412]

I think it's better to let them fail in lower classes too. If they keep getting easy promotions, they neither learn how to work harder and better, nor how to handle failure. Eventually they will have to compete with others and then there would be no more free rides. Then the failure becomes harder to deal with since they don't know even basics and cannot improve themselves in short period.

[@karthikeyan53]

@@richanigam2097 This is not America to get waiter job in restaurants and living decent life lol. This is India, if you are uneducated then you are fucked up.

[@karthikeyan53]

@@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups Do you think teachers with 15K per month salary are ready to put this much effort lol.

[@SuryaMantha]

Other thing is raising a kid is not a cakewalk anymore... Parents are going through Trmondous pressure... And thinking of not to have (no kids )at all.. It will be a total disaster if government won't intervien and do something for education expenses...

[@hindiisonlyalanguagenotkno913]

Yes, they should be failed. Also, students who study in English language schools (even vernacular schools which have English as a subject) and yet repeatedly write things like "he have the keys", "they didn't done anything", "suuuper speech", "they knows the answers" should have marks deducted even if their answers are correct in terms of getting the right answer in maths etc. Without that, you have an epidemic of poor writing everywhere from court notices, customer care chats and social media to hospital and bank websites in the workforce in India. The next generations should have much more fluency in English writing than the previous ones. Part of the issue is also hiring the right people for the job of English teaching as opposed to simply hiring people because they have a degree.

[@TilakPati]

4:21 Govt is more interested in freebies than paying teacher. 10k salary for a school teacher is not nearly enough to leave their home town and teach in a remote place. Same with health care segment.

[@nightbot6480]

lol , the salary of govt teacher is above 40k , its the private school teachers hired for 10-20k salaary

[@Aaditya_official]

​@@nightbot6480actually goverment now recruiting guest teachers and highest salary of guest teacher is in delhi which is 25k and in other states it can lower as 10k he is kinda right

[@thehawkseye3412]

​ @Aaditya_official Guest teacher- are part timers or contractual... Don't leave your hometown if you do not find it suitable for you. Guest Faculty salary at Government of Uttarakhand ranges between ₹2.7 Lakhs to ₹3.5 Lakhs per year for employees with 4 years of experience.

[@karthikeyan53]

@@nightbot6480 We all know how govt teachers are not teaching students and some are not even coming to schools lol.

[@nightbot6480]

@@karthikeyan53 Not all teachers behave in that manner. also attended a government school, and in that school, only the Math and Physical Education teachers were irresponsible in their work. The other teachers were dedicated taught well.

[@rynreaperz8716]

Failure amd succes are part of life. Students need to know about it in schools. As you sow, so you reap...

[@jslp9dj]

Due to workload and pressure students lack interest in the system. Same thing happens with teachers.

[@sundars6771]

Parents lose interest because fee structure😅

[@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups]

​At least in goverment and goverment aided school

[@kss2102]

When I am studying 9th teacher told me , they will try to pass everyone because if students study upto 10th they can goto ITI/Army ...etc....if they fail them they will discontinue their studies ...they will become burden for the society....

[@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups]

Yes that's correct But i think they should give good external mark by doing some activities For passing i think 35-40 marks is required in any subject of 12th std

[@chandragupta4u]

By repetion of year, what they gain is bot even 10 perxent. .the fame is alredy lost for those who fail, atleast they will wotk in ITI, crafts....noy vevry one 9s going to attend engineering entrance..

[@sani2205]

problem is not students its the terrible teacher's who dont know how to teach students in different levels ..

[@java2architect]

students need to take effort. I grew up with a lot of them who indeed did fail and were held back. it is not about teachers. It is about other factors. Cannot have unilateral views on this IMO. Bad teachers and Bad students are independent issues to be addressed independently. Besides understand the real issue here. You want a Civil Engineer to build a bridge you are going to drive on, then you want to know how he went about becoming a Civil engineer.

[@shwetapatil1736]

The same teacher teaches to the bright student and to the dumb one then how can you say its teachers fault?

[@Shuvadeep-xp5es]

​@@shwetapatil1736ever read of a research paper stating each human is different , those bright students don't need ur teaching, even without u they will succeed, ur a made a teacher for the sole reason of making those weak students better, have u ever heard a brand new car needing a mechanic , because it doesn't

[@vampyrkiller]

​@@shwetapatil1736 main problem is there is no personalized learning. Each student needs a different kind of teaching method. Teaching is a skill most can't master.

[@Shuvadeep-xp5es]

​​@@shwetapatil1736ever heard of the line each human is different, those bright students don't need ur teaching they are already bright because they got the right environment ( they will shine no matter who the teacher is just better teacher makes it easier)but not everyone can have those environment , its ur duty to make weak students better, have u ever heard a brand new car needing mechanic , it doesn't

[@theneed_ur]

This policy is the today’s requirement, I am a teacher and I am facing students of class IX having no basic knowledge of anything(leave Maths and Hindi reading) they don’t know how to write their name correctly in Hindi or in English. The problem, specially in the government schools is that on an average only 20% student arrive in the school and teachers make attendance of 90% student, the attendance is too low due to no detention in any class and this is a vicious cycle. The students who are appearing daily in the school discourage from this behaviour and stop coming to the school too. If you look the data of government school, in Xth board exam almost 20% students are failing, but not a single student is getting failed in class X pre-board. Think how it is possible and who is responsible for this. I can’t even talk about the situation of class XI & XII.

[@saraswatipillai4749]

I am teacher, and welcome this change wholeheartedly as students will now learn to be serious while attempting to write their papers.

[@sri.gullapalli]

Any progress towards improving teaching? May be empowering and training teachers instead of focusing on braining washing students (kids)?

[@hareshneeraj998]

yes, checkout reforms by NCTE on teacher recruitment and training.

[@RahulMahajanGoogle]

Good change. 5th and 8th are critical milestones. Delaying detention is costly, sin, irreversible. Good education is critical pillar to nation's growth. Educating kids is a responsibility and we have to take the job super serious.

[@Subhash_VCU]

India ranked 72 of 73 in PISA in 2009 and shamefully vowed not to take part in this world’s affair, The need of the day is education system overhaul like singapore or norwegian countries, Yes we have wonderful higher education schools but doesn’t mean we turn blind eye to primary education

[@ManishKumar-sg1hg]

Instead in focusing on improving education and teachers salary, like always govt chose the easy way out

[@Sudeep.Manerkar]

True

[@suneeshduvvuru6581]

I think govt teacher's salary is way higher compared to a normal private school teacher.Govt school teachers are earning more than a lakh/month by the time they retire.

[@maha_sage]

Yes exactly

[@NamanKumar-iv4cr]

@@suneeshduvvuru6581 yeah exactly . These kids have no practical knowledge , But keep blaming government for everything.

[@saibharath1236]

Exactly easy way out

[@drbaala6378]

Welcome this change ...in our days students can be failed in any class.we have to earn our pass marks.Because of no detention policy by stupid government ,no respect , no fear , no interest among the students to learn (in mindset no one is going to do anything , anyhow we are gonna pass).and No fear or respect for the teachers .

[@nitishvidyadharan8240]

What about student who is way ahead in science and maths but fails as he fails in third language which is of no use at all.

[@adityachaudhary1610]

The fact that its only about GRADES 99.9% Student don't learn anything cramming up IMPs during exams and later forget everything Whole system needs to be reviewed especially if we really want to be a vishwaghuru

[@batman_2004]

Yeah man. Just cribbing all stuff and vomiting it on exam day. Summed up our education system.

[@tharunb4124]

Yeah the education system needs to be reviewed and radical changes needs to be introduced and our edu system encourages cramming not critical thinking but 99.9% dont learn anything is a emotional exaggeration, I would say somewhere around 50% dont learn much! if 99.9% dont learn anything how are they competing with first world education system in us and dominating the silicon valley?

[@adityakumar-iu1yf]

vishwaguru 🤣🤣. first india should get out of poverty

[@tharunb4124]

@@adityakumar-iu1yf POVERTY IN 1947 WAS 90% AND TODAY LESS THAN 13% AND IN LAST 10 YEARS 450 MILLION WERE LIFTED OUT OF POVERTY, VISHWAGURU IS AN LONG TERM FUTURE ASPIRATION THAT EVERY COUNTRY/EMPIRE HAS IN DIFFERENT WAY, THE CHINESE BELIEVE ITS AN CHINESE CENTURY, JUST BECAUSE YOUR LIFE SUCKS DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY IS IN POVERTY, GROW UP KID OR ELSE EVERYONE WILL LAUGH AT UR LIFE LIKE U DID NOW.

[@adityakumar-iu1yf]

@@tharunb4124 brother, there is still a lot of poverty . see the per capita income ... 1% of india has 40% wealth .. we should try to eliminate poverty provide good basic healthcare roads quality education rather than becoming vishswaguru

[@susheel_dogra]

Bring back 5th board, 8th board, 10th board, 11th board and 12th board !!

[@devilisbackk]

Yes absolutely...that brings back much more seriousness among students and teachers to put more and more efforts to pass out. Right now half of the students and management are taking advantage of the existing policy. 😅

[@darkvader125]

no need

[@Aditya_97g]

11th board seems illogical. Students are also humans .. Moreover students in class 11th and 12th are more inclined towards competitive exams.. Already these exams are hectic and such things can make things fatal.. Things need to be updated.. boards... boards mentality is to be removed.. Things are changed now

[@susheel_dogra]

@@Aditya_97g lol, are you trying to say that people who gave 11th boards are not human being ?

[@susheel_dogra]

@@darkvader125 That's your opinion and I gave mine too !!

[@st_12345_]

Not only in schools but colleges especially engineering should have atleast 50% passing criteria just like mbbs and more weightage should be on practical rather on craming books and notes...

[@athribhat2243]

Welcoming step...

[@Romaldochristopher5572]

Scrapping the no-detention policy could help improve academic accountability, but it should be balanced with support systems to reduce stress and promote holistic learning.

[@sivarohitk8154]

It's ok to fall and try agan, world doesn't end with failure, i believe it will change peoples mindset

[@BIOS190]

Good that government has reversed it. I did 5th class board and 8th class board. It's good that government is bringing it back.

[@akatakataka753]

This should have been initiated long ago, I have seen my school's student at class 8 who can't even solve basic calculation they are always confuse with BODMAS rule and some bullies who are not good at studying were also directly promoted to next class discouraging students why they are even studying if they are getting promoted with no effort. This should help many students who really want to study and those should be stopped who are not worthy of passing.

[@sundars6771]

Please reduce fees as well. Paying fees double time. 😢

[@Ajsgwiakba]

In primary classes ...we don't have that much fees in govt school...that even includes classes 10 or 12.

[@manumudgal5776]

Private school fees is not regulated by gov. So stop crying

[@raihanakhtar2080]

​@@manumudgal5776either improve government schools environment or make a regulation that private schools can not charge ridiculous amount for lower classes fees.

[@JMC624]

As a teacher, I totally support this….we get students in Class IX and X who can’t even read or write a basic sentence …this has severely affected student quality and merit…

[@ash_aaa]

Y not. Some seriousness is required. They have given supplementary exam. Schools can choose which board they wanna follow. Students can choose which school they wanna join what level they wanna achieve. Don't ruin academic quality for few to avail it rather let them reach that level

[@nayansupreeth8932]

This policy should be applied from "upper primary classes" so, that students would learn to read and understand the books properly by themselves. It would also help students to learn the portions by themselves without any support which, would improve mentality and understanding skills in students. Which, will be useful from the future generations... This law should be implemented all over the country l. So that, students would learn, read and write by themselves l..

[@madhan9623]

Everything you said is wrong. This whole policy is wrong if you ask me.

[@cyclonous6240]

A neighbour kid from Class 10 can't even read analog clock and don't know what comes after 12:59 even in digital clock. Indian education system is just... interesting.

[@adventurer6352]

Why put presure on children instead of education system. If teaching becomes better, children will start learning better.

[@WonderfulMittens]

Why to blame teachers when one can blame students and get away with it.? I dont think a class 5 or class 8th student had even wanted this policy to exist in first place.

[@bgpcusercheater5174]

That's perfect. This should be accepted throughout the country. If they fail, it means they are not getting the education. Passing is still too easy, with the present cut-offs. But the 'failing fear' actually made me study a lot, but only after class 8. Now I hope to see the effects after some years.

[@NwjwrBrahma-rw1nj]

To all those who r saying its not good n blaming the teachers for not teaching them well. They r the ones who bunk classes and when teacher's are teaching they don't listen instead they make noises. You just have to get 40 above out of 100 to pass the exam and that also they can't do. I am also a 12th student

[@littbun]

You're right. People nowadays don't respect teachers. They make fun of them and while they're teaching, students think they can do it by themselves at home or by tutors and don't even try to concentrate in school.

[@StudentofPCB477]

U think one-sided it's system and society fault as well think about depression students go through our education system needs to be revamped for eg why do we study Shakespeare when their is no use of it also our education system is memory based instead of critical thinking

[@littbun]

@StudentofPCB477 Learning Shakespeare is in ICSE/ISC because they focus on English for the students who want to study abroad and take SAT/TOEFL exams. You can opt CBSE if you don't like Shakespeare. And btw it brushes up your skills and persistence, not useless.

[@thehawkseye3412]

Students not taking any responsibility for their own action is also a thing now. The YT comment sections of useless reaction channels, reel, asian drama, tiktok collections or gaming videos etc are full of Indian kids who say they were watching that video while in class. There would some student posting that he has exam the next day but watching long videos. or they would be playing some video game or chatting on some stream.

[@karthikeyan53]

I blame teachers becuase in my school almost 40 out of 60 students are dumb. Then whose mistake is that lol. Only 10 students understand the what teacher is teaching remaining 10 will mug up and write the exams. rest 40 just try to mug up and get screwed.

[@bittumishra1293]

I work in a government school and i suffer this problem every now and then. You can imagine a student just enrolled in class 11 science is unable to read texts. 'Aadhar' They cant pronounce it. They wont tell u which is greater 1/2 or 1/3. This is our policy and they have passed boards with distinction. Imagine this shit. They say its a teacher duty to teach will i teach him/her Laws of physics or how to spell a word.

[@vishwa7122]

But brother do you think teachers will start failing the students if the student is weak. If they fail then the school needs to take another exam for which only few teachers agree from heart else no one want a re-exam till there is any incentive involve in failing the student. Take the example in class 9th and 10th pre board, in bihar board there is no law restrict the teachers to fail them but if you see your school data there is a chance that no student fails the exam.

[@Himanshu_Upadhyay_]

Great and helpful news. 👏👏

[@jeanminatchy1381]

WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE IN EUROPE ABOUT DIVISION CALCULATIONS WE DO NOT MAKE THEM REPEAT

[@theunstoppablerockstar4959]

Palki Maam.... My favorite....😊

[@Shringar_seva]

Promoting healthy competition is essential.

[@lemorathejoblessbard1356]

Good Descision!

[@randhirpersaud4342]

Wonderful investigative reporting. 👍

[@ajvideos-c7o]

All govt teachers are only there for salary, not with the intention to teach students.

[@HarshSahu1519]

Not all, correct your statement. Many teachers want to teach the students but students are not likely to come to school for study, as they already know that they will pass the exam either way.

[@dm5665]

Very good move, 20 years before economically India was not doing well. But the quality of education was far better in Govt school.

[@anithajose]

Good...no detention shud have been scrapped long ago...

[@gideonkarthik]

Kudos to all teachers who educate children. Its not easy

[@jyotideshpande3593]

Correct decision for th future of country n students...

[@thuglife5236]

Right approach

[@GeminiRay-hs2bh]

As a student, I welcome this change. It was a pain to grow up with certain people in class who would pass each class even when they did not study anything. They will always disturb the class not know how to do even basic things. This will frustrate all the teachers too and we constantly had a very negative environment because of that. I am sure they also have their part of the story but it is also true that one cannot play with the future of all the other students just because of a few.

[@AnonymousAnonymous-dc3jm]

It's not the students, some teaches are terrible, they don't teach anything properly and students don't understand anything due to these teachers.

[@kingdorm9546]

@@AnonymousAnonymous-dc3jm how would you know about indian education system dude , you not Indian

[@AnonymousAnonymous-dc3jm]

@@kingdorm9546 The Advantage of Anonymity gives me no identity of nationality, only identity as anybody else, so I can say I'm an omniscient being so I do know a lot about India.

[@adarsh6036]

​@@kingdorm9546I am and he is right (I am rich if you consider the whole indian population, but still the education I got was not satisfactory. So idk what the rest of the teachers will be like

[@thehawkseye3412]

Some teachers maybe terrible but are you saying students are never to blame? The YT comment sections of stupid videos are full of Indian kids who say they were watching that video while in class. There would some student posting that he has exam the next day but watching long videos. or they would be playing some video game or chatting on some stream.

[@rajkrishan3092]

Thank God, good step

[@KiranSharma-sd4wr]

It's a welcome step taken by govt. Students were not at all serious and not even serious towards teachers and not paying respect to them

[@TheKarankansal]

A welcoming step for empowering teachers!

[@narenpradeep3766]

Our current exam system is like holding a competition among a monkey, elephant, fish, eagle, snake, deer, and lion, where the task is to climb a tree to pass. It’s absurd and meaningless-pass or fail it makes no sense. Exam shows only your memorizing capacity. Scrapping the exam system would make more sense. People often ask, “How will we know if students understand the concepts?” A good teacher already knows which students excel in what areas and where they struggle. Schools should focus on teaching basic skills up to the 8th grade. After that, they should guide parents by identifying the fields where their child shows potential, allowing them to plan their child’s future accordingly.

[@Ajsgwiakba]

Thanks God that pass fail is back.

[@Ajsgwiakba]

Some people never learn basic things. They can't even write a single line but take those full scholarships and in the same class with students who study. But I don't know if my state govt will allow it or not....as usual WB always ... whatever who ever starts this kudos to you people ❤

[@madhan9623]

I feel like this policy is not a good decision. It just downgrades it more.

[@lalitmehta3621]

The essence of examination is very clear, if u fail then u have to study again . Otherwise no purpsoe of taking and giving exams. in my opinion, this is a good step in ensuring the quality and value education among our student.

[@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups]

Wheter yes 9th and 10th std basic of math and science is important If you don't know basic of that Then you will struggle in 11th std and 12th std And i am live example of it😅😅😅 Scoring 34 in math exam in 12th board

[@littbun]

​@@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups Are you still in 12th? Maths is not tough, you just need to practise it daily. Just daily at least for an hour or two. I used to score horribly at it too but consistency really helped me.

[@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups]

@@littbun I completed 12th in 2023 now i am doing engineering I got decent marks in math 34/50 in first sem and 44/50 in second sem

[@raiAshwa]

If you get into scholar debates on these then it's a never ending topic, you (in this sense the government) should have the courage to make a decision and back it up when the time comes to act !!

[@sangam214]

2:00 excellent 👍

[@Hariom.pandey07]

I truely and whole heartedly support this change.... Nd i admire the minds behind this change... It feels a headache teaching those 9-10 th std kids who don't even know division

[@drkabhisar]

Obviously they should not be detained. If you fail an exam you should get 3 months to pass the exam again and again until you pass. Meanwhile they should be allowed to sit with their batch mates for next class but they should be allowed to sit for the final exam only if they have cleared last year's final exam.

[@kinginblack2845]

Great Idea

[@meerasrivastava-gp6jm]

This is a great initiative for all children and they also help in mental ability of students country always going towards the growth and development of country.

[@kunalvarshney9927]

CA CS CMA crying in the corner. Despite writing right answers students are failed 😂😂😂

[@UkpscUpdates007]

Yes if failed in studying definitely get success in other fields without wasting their high energy young age on matter which they don't relate

[@LensFromNorthEast5338]

It is the fault of teachers. Just see indian high school in our own area.

[@MrLam-92]

This is one of the best decision taken, parents, gaurdians, and students you should know that just passing or be promoted to next class is not necessary, you might passed class 8 but know nothing. Its better to detain those whom the teachers feels that the student needs tobe taught again so that they can gain better knowledge. There are many students who have passed class 5, 6 but still donot know how to read and write put aside understanding because of the no detention and pandemic.

[@yaswanthmannava4072]

I just saw new AP government textbook its 1/4 th of what we studied which is 1/2 of what seniors studied if rhey study this the jump from 10th to intermediate is insane.

[@pradyua]

Any similar policy for politicians or bureaucracy or judiciary???

[@shindersamra4020]

No fail students in class 1 to 8 that is right ways because give children encouragement they will do well.

[@richanigam2097]

Why is the encouragement not helping in passing the class ?

[@devd_rx]

i would assume you are a product of that system too

[@siddharthtripathi1818]

Considering how you yourself can't even frame a basic sentence proves how idiotic this no failure policy is

[@richanigam2097]

@@siddharthtripathi1818 good , I hope you are doing well with no failure policy ...

[@hareshneeraj998]

Proper teaching is needed for those students who are unable to pass, not a free promotion to the next class.

[@musemotif]

Very good policy change. This needed to be done.

[@sanjaykumar-xv4xd]

Good job Palki Madam.

[@shubhan2002]

Mujhe to bohot mara h school me teachers ne ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ

[@siddhartaray4225]

Palki Madam's Analysis is Apt. Nice. Failing should be very much a part of Education. Jai Sri Ram. Jai Maa Bharati

[@nitishvidyadharan8240]

What about student who is way ahead in science and maths but fails as he fails in third language which is of no use at all.

[@kasturim17]

The problem arises in the primary school when a student fail to learn basic concept because of absentism and thus like a domino effect cant be good in latter years... i am am example i was in english school, absent when क ख ग was taught.. i am 34 now still dont know the sequence.

[@thehawkseye3412]

It's really easy to remember it though. Just pay attention since nagari script is very systematic in arrangement. I was abroad for almost a year when my son was 5. When I came back he was admitted in first standard but didn't remember any Hindi alphabet since his kindergarten was abroad. My mother taught him Hindi writing for like three days- around an hour per day. Then school started and he was writing Hindi sentences in school. His writing sucked because of lack of practice. His teachers complained for a long time. Then one of them told me it was too late for him to work on good writing. It would be better to make him focus on clear writing, instead. But other than that I was rather impressed that he still could write in Hindi. His English writing was not much better either- in Canada they only taught print letters to kids in kindergarten. Indian school standard is much higher than there, at this stage. My son had learnt cursive letters in India before there, but his school didn't allow him to use it. So Canada ruined his English writing too. Back here his writing became a mix or print and cursive.

[@LEVIACKERMAN-im9xz]

*GOOD DECISION*

[@debarunbasu4945]

It is good to have a measure which can be done only by having a passing or failing in exams... Students of class 8 failing in simple mathematics of class 2/3 is a shame... No point in having such education system!!! Education is the means of creating learned, competent and capable future!!!

[@trideep220280]

The world out there is tough. The quicker a child learns it the better it is. We have too many cotton wool kids

[@WonderfulMittens]

The level of anxiety and stress in a student is similar to those that were faced by people when they were in a war. I agree that this policy needs to change but also let's not forget that the entire society will label them as failure. Cotton wool kids or kids calling out the pressure put on them?

[@Oktolibre]

This will create chaos, Take the case of Kerala, where majority of the students secured 90 plus percentage in 10th, the result is that many students are not getting the desired stream to study in 11th standard. This year, i heard in news that a state rank holder didn't get seat for 11th standard.

[@manumudgal5776]

No one cares lol

[@FlexQG]

That's bull shit ... there are tons of higher secondary schools...both government semi and private...

[@Oktolibre]

@@FlexQG Not bluffing Many students in Kerala were not able to get 11th stream of their desire despite good marks. Some have opted to do in Private Tuition centres

[@ishitasrivastava880]

As someone who has gotten a chance to work in delhi government schools, I can say with confidence that it was a much needed step indeed, the policy had brought children with an ease based convenient attitude of not studying as they would get passed anyways. Biggest drawback laid in students becoming disinterested in studies and teachers carrying a casual attitude of not teaching properly too. The quality of education had stooped to such a low that an 8th class student didn’t even know basic mathematical operations. However the sad part is whether the present delhi govt would comply to this new change or not or prefer to maintain the status quo

[@kasturim17]

There could be extra classes and exams held in summer holidays for those who perform poor.. this way students would perform better to keep there holidays and those unable will get course correction..

[@jewett425]

Great decision 👏 👌

[@vasusingh2475]

Great move!!

[@QazWsx-sn3bn]

The question itself is wrong. We should ask why our education system is not able to educate students? Tests were supposed to check if one learned something or not. If one student fails then that means there is a problem in the student. But if we are covering up the failure of the whole class then the system itself is at fault. Education should not be privatised but it is. As one smart guy said there are two things missing in our education system. Education and system.

[@smartbaba1321]

As teacher, i can tell even in class 6th students are very poor in basic math calculations and read.

[@sanketvaria9734]

isn't it obvious? If I know I am gonna pass then why would I study in first place. this will incentivize teachers as well to relax and not teach.

[@theguy2940]

basically quantity over quality

[@TalkShowwithPrashant]

I am the principal of a private school, I see the worsening quality of education. Good decision by the government.👍🙏

[@anishs9699]

From a students perspective here the problem with education system & parents is that these people never teaches about how to study because studying is an art just like any other work. Students are fed in their mind that one will have to spend lot of times with their book in order to get good marks which is not the case and that results in boredom, hating study and some might go ahead by copying.

[@everything2042]

Fr mate the jump in syllabus from class 10 to 11​ was like heaven and hell difference.@@WonderfulMittens

[@anishs9699]

@WonderfulMittens absolutely every person who is studying hasn't been taught how to study. The situation is similar to one who is searching for god and no one knows how to find. This is the situation where beleif kicks in and not the knowledge because the knowledge is very rare most of them won't share

[@ravindranmokkilmaruthur23]

There are many who were not good at studies succeeding in life and becoming inspiration for others.