Indian Muslims And Rising Hindu Nationalism | Dr. Christophe Jaffrelot and Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy

Join us for an insightful exploration into the dynamics of Indian Muslims’ experiences amidst the backdrop of rising Hindu nationalism. Let’s discuss the historical, social, and political dimensions that shape this complex narrative. This session aims to foster a deeper understanding of the multifaceted issues surrounding religious identity and nationalistic ideologies in contemporary India.
About the Speaker:
Dr. Christophe Jaffrelot is Senior research fellow at CERI-Sciences Po/CNRS, Professor of Indian Politics and Sociology at the King’s India Institute (London), President of the French Political Science Association and Chair of the British Association for South Asian Studies. He works as a Non Resident Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and as a Permanent Consultant at the Centre for Policy Planning Staff of the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Among his recent publications are, "The Pakistan Paradox. Instability and Resilience", London, Hurst; New York, Oxford University Press; New Delhi, Random House, 2015, (as a co-editor with A. Kohli and K. Murali) "Business and Politics in India" (OUP, 2019) and (as a co-editor with A. Chatterji and T.B. Hansen) "The Majoritarian State. How Hindu Nationalism is Changing India" (Hurst, 2019), as co-author with Pratinav Anil, "India’s First Dictatorship. The Emergency, 1975-77" (Hurst, 2020) and as sole author "Modi’s India. Hindu Nationalism and the Rise of Ethnic Democracy" (Princeton University Press, 2021).
Moderator: Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy

[@mohsinafzaal7159]

1:33:20 every country works for its own interests….. Muslims or not Muslims…..what has Muslim countries have done to stop the war in Gaza? Indian Muslims needs to get modern education keep religion inside their homes they don’t need to carry a Muslim banner on their foreheads become productive citizens of India …….make a difference…..modern education modern thinking is the key……Jai Hind 🙏

[@billtensus]

Next we will talk about "how USA democracy is in danger" in Beijing. And "World Peace" in Gaza.😂😂😂

[@dpdevgan8353]

Why Pakistanis are concerned about indian Muslims and not Chinese Muslims?

[@monideepadey3101]

Why does not this esteemed professor do the same kind of research regarding the state of minorities in Pakistan.

[@anitasingh37]

It will be very helpful if Professor also study conditions of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh.

[@kumaresan2]

Why did the "elite" muslims who left india in 1947 not succeed in making pakistan glorious?

[@MOONLIGHT-zu4ru]

A failed state is talking about democracy and minorities. Wow !!

[@riderpikachu7403]

I'll Summarise with this. Why Pakistan lag far behind India, is the prime example of why Muslims lag behind India.

[@kentcorrea1747]

I would have like to see a paper on Hindus and other religions in Pakistan. People are obsessed with India🇮🇳

[@rajeshvetal8342]

My respect towards Veer Savarkar is increasing day by day; thanks 🙏 to all theses intellectuals😂😂😂😂😂

[@jagdishjagwani7945]

One important fact of India. In a Muslim dominated constituency, there has never been a Hindu representation to the Lok Sabha. On the other hand, that’s not the norm in Hindu dominated constituent. Again in those Muslim dominated constituents, the talk is mostly about religion. On the other hand, there is universal talk (mainly development) in non Muslim dominated areas.

[@srinivasgupta]

Two main thing you have to remember 1. Hinduism is pluralistic by nature...A Hindu doesn't have any problem if you want to pray any other god or follow any religion unless you disturb them. 2. the current movement of hindu unity is only because of divicive politics by nehru and congress where you appease Muslims by giving them unimaginable favours and facilities just for votes. imagine muslum population grew from 6% to 20% in 50 years

[@Northcommercial]

It will be the first time for me that I will vote in 2024 and thankyou so much for making my mind to vote for BJP 🙏🏼

[@udaisingh2509]

Truth will never be spoken that Nehru prohibited entry of Sadhus to North East India . After 1947, Verrier Elwin ( who began his career in India as a Christian missionary.) was asked by Nehru to find solutions to the problems that emerged among the tribal peoples living in the far northeastern corner of India, the North East Frontier Agency (NEFA). Elwin entered into an agreement with Nehru which prohibited the entry of Sadhus into Nagaland .[11]

[@alokmehrotra893]

Help me understand how will this discussion help Pakistan repay its debts or improve its economy or help feed its ‘Muslim’ population who can’t pay for food in current circumstances!

[@vaibhavtiwari_-ekstudent485]

What are the dynamics of hindus in Pakistan is no more hidden, not even 1%,so please take care of your own economy which you get from IMF, india is a HINDU RASHTRA, JAI SHREE RAM, Jai hind❤🔥

[@chandrasekharmogilisetti8209]

This person did not study the CAA. Anyone can become Indian citizen if he stays for more than 11 years. But other than Muslims can get it in 6 years because all these countries he mentioned are Muslim countries.

[@gauravmathur3142]

Did not answer shaqil chaudhary question, why are pak muslims worse off in education than Indian muslims?

[@respectallfaith]

Why is it so difficult for intelligent people in Pakistan to change their Constitution to a Secular/Democratic.

[@amanmishra6324]

Jab Muslim apni country main gair muslimo ko democracy aur secularism nhi dete to gair muslim country ko bhi apni country main democracy aur secularism sirf muslim ke liye nhi deni chaiye

[@anujay81]

Sanatan idealogy is secular in nature, which promotes pluralism, hence India 🇮🇳 is secular.

[@surajitray9001]

I totally disagree with the guest lecturer. We never discriminate against the minority. We work hand and hand. In my professional career and personal, I have many Muslim friends. I stay in Mumbai. Even after the Mumbai serial blasts and 26/11, there were no riots in Mumbai. That itself shows the social harmony we have. I think professor Hoodbhyo should have more visualisation on the internal problem of Pakistan not India. That is the main problem of Pakistan, they spend all the good time investing in others instead of them.

[@bijujoseph6798]

It's funny. Dr. Christophe is complaining that Indians are successful abroad. Sir - we worked hard for it. It's not because of Mody or RSS.

[@sridharsm366]

We as Indians already are fed up with so many positive discriminations. The whole world is doing negative discrimination. We totally oppose one more positive discrimination in the name of Muslims.

[@karsan69]

India will be Hindurashtra. Anybody who does not believe in Hinduism is not needed in India. Because Hinduism is NOT A RELIGION. IT IS A WAY OF LIFE.

[@anjan67]

Anything wrong with Hindu nationalism???

[@ahydershoaib107]

Pakistan should care about their Muslim not Indian muslim

[@karolbagh3793]

A debate on state of education of muslims in India, in a country where 25 million children are out of school (Claps 👏👏👏)

[@RakeshSharma-tz1wi]

Hindutwa is not equivalent to Islamic extremism

[@AbhishekTiwari-cn8jk]

You guys should discuss status of minorities in Pakistan too 😂 Hippocracy at highest level.

[@KararaJawaab]

*_Thank You So Much. We'll Not Let Positive Descrimination Happen And Hold Indian Development Back._* *_I Am A Dalit. I Have Not Taken Any Quota Or Reservation To Grow Up On Socio-Economic Ladder._* *_I Don't Support Indescriminate Reservations Or Quota System Because, It Turns Out Into A Social Divide & Feeling Of Anger Among People._* *_No More Positive Descrimination._* *_Education Is Now Almost Freely Available To Everyone Of Us In Age Of Internet. You Can Learn Anything From Anywhere Can Compete With Anyone._* *_I Don't Think There's Any Descrimination In Exams. And With The Development In Technology, Education Is Democratized._*

[@alokmehrotra893]

It is so ironical that this seminar is happening in Pakistan. Pakistan shud look within itself and shud not worry about India.

[@snehajitadhya827]

The irony is all the people sitting here have hindu ancestors thus they carry the same blood as us. So we are of same race and same genes.

[@prabhakarpotu6617]

what happened to minority population in Pakisthan since independence

[@nishant6392]

when a community has been given rights to manage your institutions in the Indian constitution, which in give rise to madrasas, then expecting more IAS, IPS from the same community is asking for too much, the community leaders of this minority has immensely failed them, therefore Uniform civil code is the need of the hour, so every section of the society can flourish together, other than thinking every thing is a conspiracy by yahood or hanood to marginalize this certain community.

[@user-hy7zx7xo3b]

Why not remember apj abdul kalam president by bjp

[@vjhon49]

Can you talk about the destroying of masajids, editing Quran, restricting islamic practices by the government in China?

[@punchmukhi]

Since Dr Parvez Hoodboy talks about the Aryan Invasion Theory and looks for scientific evidence, I feel he should visit Rakhigarhi in Haryana and the Central DNA institute in India based in Lucknow that has done extensive ancient DNA mapping of the region. Since he is a scientist he would appreciate the extensive scientific work done in this space by Indian geneticists, archaeologists and scientists that provides a verifiable thesis on migration from Harappa (Rakhigarhi and other regions) to other regions in Asia. Would be an interesting exercise if you could get them on your show to probe and discuss this extensively.

[@catgpsok]

Thats what makes me vote for BJP

[@kartikshiroya2270]

Arab considers you second class Muslim converts... you still didn't able to understand 😅

[@NeuzEmo]

Why dont you do same analysis on your minority

[@Him-hk2yz]

Why doesn’t Hoodboy make program on minority discrimination in Pakistan

[@chandrasekharmogilisetti8209]

Per Capita difference is due to number of people in family and it is very high in Muslim. No birth control in Muslims. Going to madrasas for education is the problem.

[@nishikantsingh5595]

The Whole Socio-Political discourse of Pakistani state revolves around Modi & Hindutva😂😂😂😂.... Great going keep it up 👍👍

[@rajeshpundir4979]

It's very interesting he had nothing good to say About India ....

[@dheerajsingh8947]

What never make any sense to me is why pakistani's are always worried about indian muslims but completly silent on chinese muslims. My Pakistani friends and intellectuals( if you have any ) please first take care of your own people and start that by first feeding them and please bring this galloping inflation down in your country and give some relive to your poor people.

[@madhablalkarmaker9761]

Pakistanis' want India must continue as a secular country as it was during Neheru regime, but on the other hand they want Pakistan to thrive and continue as a pure "Islamic State". What a fun or purely Nuisance !!!

[@mandeepnanda]

Islamic republic of Pakistan talking about Hindu RAshtra and its problems. What a irony . Correct your house first. . Baateoin ke champion

[@Prasanta22011]

Only vote for hindu party. To demolished Christan agenda

[@ushachikoti4530]

His study is very biased 😢he is not talking about the Kashmir where Hindus has been genocide so Hindus are scared of Muslims to be in our ruling party. We don’t want same fate as Kashmiri Hindus

[@MistahP07]

It's amusing to see that two non - Indians talking about India while living outside of India 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@bruno66yc]

As an outsider, while it is true that hindu nationalism is on the rise in India, it is still far more tolerant of minorities than Pakistan. Minorities of all sorts are all but gone in Pakistan. So instead of looking at the "plights" of Indian muslims in India, it is perhaps more productive to reflect on the plights of non-muslims in Pakistan.

[@Harshvardhankumar40]

BJP will win again 🙏🙏

[@pritammulaokar7549]

Pakistan should tell what happened to its minorities especially hindus?

[@Pramodsharma-uz8ix]

"Indian Muslims And Rising Hindu Nationalism" Title itself describes their area of interest, these so-called professors are not discussing something great but as usual like any Pakistani, Islamist.

[@chandrasekharmogilisetti8209]

Graduates are more Hindus because we care about education. Muslims due to their big family can't go for education and send into small petty jobs.

[@GuzzarAwan]

Muslims already get reservation under OBC categroy. What is he talking abt ??? From where this Gora has came , what r his credentials ??

[@Sarthak010]

When he said, India was created sechular... Khel khatam.

[@neelachaldash]

Baseless absurd thoughts presented as facts with a preoccupied prejudice in mind against Hindus. Totally disagree with the views tabled in the debate. This is not expected from the so-called intellectuals of the western world. May God bless you with real wisdom.

[@rahulnkulkarni]

I would like similar study for Hindus in Pakistan and bangaladesh and discuss on this channel 😂

[@kotresh31jan]

When a country like pak born out of hatred for other faiths and their very existence is based on religion , the outcome of which what we seeing here in this debate. The very basic issue with Pakistan and Pakistanis is to view the world as Muslims and non Muslims . This is the very country what started as borne out for hate of Hindus and now it reached a stage where it has eliminated chunk of Hindus from their society , castigated ahmedhis by law and constitution, downgraded Shias etc., Now, they debating a liberal democracy next door whose preamble of constitution states clearly all resident of India are equal in all aspects of their existence and enjoy the same rights. This is the real tragedy of Pakistani mindset and the so called educated elite here

[@premicism9955]

Mr. You have invited yourself to trouble. Which book or classroom makes Muslims uncomfortable in India? IAS and IPS are purely on merit basis. There is no reservation based on religion.

[@user-hy7zx7xo3b]

Shahnawaz Hussain youngest MLA and minister by bjp

[@rajendrayande]

Request to hoodbhoy for arrange lecture on Pakistani minority like hindu Christian s and others minority . The lecture will be like this fighter and facts.

[@durgeshvishwakarma8336]

Pls ask from guest about minority representation in pakistan politics.😂

[@sanjaygaikwad9643]

Ask GORA why today's Europe crying?

[@Keeping_it_reall]

I would very much like to see similar results for Hindus and other minorities in Pakistan as well. Guess that will answer a lot of your questions.

[@PramodPatil-ti1qk]

No need to discuss about Muslims in India or any other minorities discuss Hindus in Islamic countries....can you dare to discuss

[@ud1976]

I’m glad Dr Hoodbhoy brought up the differential in outcomes in UK between immigrants from India and those from Pakistan. It was a bit surprising how CJ dismissed cultural differences out of hand.

[@sureshamin490]

BJP doesn't have Muslim MPs because they do not have Muslim members. Tickets will be given to only BJP members. Hope you will agree.

[@sunilgaur3223]

Conversion is not made difficult but converting people by deceit was made criminal

[@Kuldeepsingh-pr6pq]

India is more secular now than before. Previous Indian government (INC) was anti hindu

[@terminator5812]

18:12 Matter of fact: There is no national language in India. We cherish our diversity with mutual respect and acceptance .

[@cprijesh]

In USA also indians are excelling in studies and highest-paid category jobs. Majority r hindus. ?????????😮

[@r.b.industries8935]

Justice sachhar commitee found Muslims is much better placed in BJP/Modi run state Gujarat in govt and other life

[@abhisheksang.9937]

what about muslim which are behind the bar in Europe more then ethnic

[@mohsinafzaal7159]

1:13:40 I hear this statement all the time that they are not representing “The Real Religion” …… so who is going to decide what the real religion is?

[@pritammulaokar7549]

They should be asked when muslims have equal or more rights, what about China demolishing Masjids and no one question but in India they just have one thing to say they are bad with muslims.

[@kanya-7x]

Why you r not talking about minorities rights in pak ??? What u had done with hindus n christian in pak since 1947 ?

[@manthan8366]

Soon india will be hindu rastra

[@rohitp4952]

Sorry sir, Hindi is not national language we don't have any national language.both Hindi and English are official language.

[@bobmontrey]

This is so strange talking about India.. not uttering a single word of Pakistanis decline.. specially the country which is founded on the basis of religion. Come on guys..and to be honest..Muslims have to be progressive that is main difference why Indian Muslims are far more educated and advance than Pakistan Muslims

[@sumitghosh9761]

Mr. Intellectual tell your research on "Aryan invasion theory".

[@kamrish009]

Thanks I have made my mind for the vote in elections due to this video.... Voting for Modi. Don't want to go back to Congress days... Was bad, really bad. Infra, incomes, services, opportunities and education everything is of good quality now. No return please... We want to cross the point of no return 😂

[@Discover-Hidden]

They called guests from country which itself is responsible for India Pakistan conflict. And expect them to be non biased?! 😂😂 good luck.. They will only multiply this conflict!

[@nishant6392]

sorry, but the last time.., the quota system was introduced , it led to the patrician, the idea of quota on the basis of religion is dead on arrival.

[@bogusrevealer9890]

Pakistani may see difference between southern states and northen states. But in practice no such difference. 99.99 % of India's population considers India first and rest comes only after India. Crores of southern population settled all over India. So as nothern population.

[@civilizational_bridge]

Guess what, TMC and CPIM have destroyed West Bengal. Look up the economy numbers of the state. Its absolutely distressing. They are absolutely last. The new generation likes to vote for educated people who can present a vision. Its a competition. Democracy is a race. The better candidate wins. Its ok to have women's reservation but not other types of artificial construct based quota systems.

[@srinivasgupta]

India is more secular now than it was ....BJP does not do appeasement politics for Muslim votes

[@movieteamkannada7669]

First discuss about what happened to hindus of pakistan.why they are only 1 percent in pak?

[@neilbrown5501]

Hoodbhoy bhi akhir musalman hi nikla

[@Vader19k8]

I can bet not one hindu was in that room 😂

[@dhiraj6380]

Great propaganda 😂😂😂

[@kapilparashar3461]

How this discussion will help Pakistani people in queue for grabbing a bag of rice/wheat? As far as Indian Muslim are concerned, let me tell you even if we push them to go to Pakistan on our expenses they will spit on Pakistan.😅

[@sanjaygaikwad9643]

Parvez we don't want your thoughts, kindly educate your religion how to behave with minority

[@nkasdfh6901]

India is peaceful because of its majority not minority. Look at Pakistan and think on think on this. Why a particular religion has issue worldwide?

[@kashmiripundit5455]

two hypocrites discussing plight of muslims in india , and they become an ostrich to see plight of minorities in pakaaaastan specially hindus , the son of the soil ( subcontinent ) { used this phrase to make you happy that an RSS wala came and commented

[@Sk-cr2bl]

Prof. hoodbhy should visit India to see the condition of minorities in India. All information about India is showing wrong and I'll inform information......🙈🙉🙊

[@d.s.9989]

If you that much concern about Indian Muslim why can't you take them

[@Avantika005]

What about hindu minority in pakistan