Indian Scout as a FIRST Bike...?

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[@kendil22]

I'm one of those that started on the Scout. It's really just a case of being honest with yourself as a rider. I'm 43 and perfectly happy riding within the speed limit. Younger people might not be as cautious as I am. Heck I won't ride 2 miles down the street without all the gear. I've had to lock up the brakes once (non abs version) but kept it under control and upright. I'm careful in the corners and don't do any abrupt changes that might upset the bike. I take it easy on the on and off ramps so I don't have to make crazy emergency stops. I bought a cruiser to cruise, if wanted play speed racer I'd have gotten a sport bike :) . Living in NJ I can tell you the drivers here live by the "ME FIRST" rule. They have absolutely no regard for anyone else on the road. They don't look, they don't move over, they don't signal, and they don't put their phones down. I've had people run stop signs and try to merge into me. Since everyone here tailgates the crap out of you, stopping isn't a good option. Twisting the throttle and getting the hell out of the way is many times the best answer. Now almost any cruiser with more the 650cc will be more than fast enough to accomplish this, I looked really hard at the vulcan 650s before the scout. It's almost as fast as the scout with half the cc's. But it's also covered in plastic which didn't appeal to me a whole lot and I'm not a Harley sportster fan (though they're reliable and well made). It's a know yourself situation. Are you going to be able to resist the temptation to push the bike? And realize the bikes limit isn't necessarily your own? That'll be the difference on whether it's a good beginner for someone.

[@Lonewolf23-26]

kendil22 and by this guy is referring to someone with zero bike experience? I appreciate your comment I’m not super experienced but I’d consider myself a novice if only slightly above beginner as I’ve rode plenty off road bikes lots of quads but maybe only a handful of times on road on sport bikes, never been on a cruiser but I was looking into a used higher mileage scout for my first cruiser and realistically my first bike you think that’s a good idea? Thanks in advance for your advice it’s always appreciated

[@caseysimon6357]

kendil22 I currently own and ride a Kawasaki Vulcan S. I’ve been licensed since 1989. I purchased the KVS in early 2016. It’s been a huge disappointment since day one. I test rode a leftover 2019 Scout demo just yesterday. I’m thinking I’ll be upgrading next season. I’m just here to see and hear the scout online.

[@superchill5264]

"I'll tell you how to make a responsible decision regarding motorcycles..." *80mph through a neighborhood*

[@marshallr4013]

Got em.

[@theGiantAngryRobot]

35 years old and started on the scout sixty, can confirm it's a great first bike if you've settled down a bit and matured.

[@francescocesario2658]

I’m 32 and was thinking the scout but now may go with a scout 60.,

[@SB-mw1bg]

I think the sixty is the one for me.

[@claytonsorensen1596]

I'm 44 years old, just learned how to ride and I bought a 2018 indian Scout as my first bike... fantastic bike and my 15 and 22 year old kids both learned how to ride on a Scout.

[@saliston]

You are right. The scout is liquid cooled which makes it much more powerful than an air cooled 1200. People dont realize that and can easily get themselves in trouble. I think for young riders that like to twist the throttle it can be dangerous. But for older or more sedate riders it will be a great starter they can grow into and keep for many years.

[@paullukasorlowski]

I am 33 years old and bought an Indian scout in 2019. My first bike. I love it! For me perfect to ride.

[@superchill5264]

I'ma be saying that soon too! Except I'm one year older hahaha

[@sirdumbthicc4294]

Yeah I’m 30 and have test ridden the Indian scout bobber, fits me very well and it will be my first bike as well.

[@CSchaef02]

I’m 33 and signing for an Indian Scout tomorrow as my first bike. So pumped!

[@raulgillette5589]

@@CSchaef02 How is it man!

[@johnjohnson5496]

Too many people want to start running before they even know how to walk ten steps without falling down. Great video and great advice.

[@RaynorTheOne]

HD Iron 883 was my first bike. 2 months later, a friend of mine recommended to test Indian Scout. I wish I knew about this bike sooner. It's great for beginners imo.

[@WxMcGee66]

First bike and first time on 2 wheels, I got a scout bobber and I love it! Did the 3 day learner course at a Harley dealership nearby and I already want more power 2,500 miles later

[@AlexJames-br9im]

Lol got trained on a Harley then bought a Indian got em

[@brianbalcer]

I'm about to take the beginners course at a Harley dealership and I have been looking at the Scout or Scout sixty, but everyone is telling me it's too much for a beginner, which I understand. I do feel I would respect it's power though, and I am not looking to race or yank that throttle. I'm a pretty cautious driver. It does have me conflicted though. I feel like a noob who just wants a bike that most people say begginners cant handle lol

[@WxMcGee66]

@@brianbalcer you can handle it man! Don’t listen to em lol

[@signalmanmikeable]

I getting a scout 60 for my first bike. Love everything about it and I respect the power and responsibility of riding.

[@InvictvsNox]

Good move!

[@edwardm.6132]

I just turned 37 today... got my first bike last year... 2018 Indian Scout. LOVE it.

[@juanacum1100]

The best bike is the one you’re riding. Buy whatever you want. If it makes you happy and you can afford it. Forget what others have to say. Enjoy yourself

[@jeremyconley6467]

I'm 40 and took the MSF course on a Harley 500 Street Bob. I bought a Yamaha V Star 650 and loved it. I just recently sold it and I've been looking for another bike. I'm loving the look of the Indian Scouts and thinking that's where I'm going to go.

[@alennagy3741]

I’m 34 and just started riding about 2 months ago. I took the riders course and when I finished I’m not going to lie, the scout scared my day one of taking it out at night. The barely pulling on the throttle made me think I made a mistake buying it but after 3 weeks of just riding at night getting comfortable with it I now love the bike and I got used to the power quick but it still surprises me when you go full throttle and all of a sudden it’s R6 quick.

[@esundproductions]

My Scout Bobber is my first bike. I absolutely love it, but I grew up on motocross bikes so that definitely helped with the learning curve. Great video!

[@petemoonwolf6762]

I agree with you. I started out on a Honda Rebel 250. After taking the motorcycle safety course and got my endorsement, I moved up to a Harley Davidson Street 500 ( that's also a great starter bike as well ) then upped to the Honda Shadow 750. Now I am a proud owner of a 2015 Indian Scout in which up to date I already put in 14,000 plus miles on. Perhaps maybe in the near future I'll move up to the Indian Chief...Maybe...

[@InvictvsNox]

My man.

[@craigdonovan4277]

Harley Street 500 is going gang busters in Australia.

[@trevorbrown4674]

I started on a scout bobber at 56 years old. I am also at ease doing the speed limit. Well, actually, I restarted on a scout bobber after a 27 year hiatus from riding. I love it. Start with a bike you can grow into, not out of. We as a people try to idiot-proof life. It can not be done. Idiots will hurt themselves on a Grom. Get what makes you happy. And if it kills you, at least you will have died Happy :) :) :)

[@ObscureJester]

I'm 38 and learned to ride a Vespa before learning how to bicycle. And I agree with you. My first bike was a mini cruiser 150 (Kymko Zing 1998), then Swapped for a Yamaha Virago 250. After that I got a Kawasaki ER6N 650, then back to cruisers with a Honda VTX 1300. I'm temporary sitting on a Honda CBR 650F limited edition and by Xmas I will trade it in for a brand new Indian Scout. It's super important not only to handle the power by steps but also to ride different types of bikes to understand their limits on the road and be prepared to avoid accidents (I know how much a sport bike can bend compared to a cruiser, so I'm able to foresee if the biker in front of me is about to crash or not).

[@699669king]

I concur with every point. Things can get stupid REAL quick if one twists the throttle just a bit too much. Hit a bump and get your throttle to give it gas unexpectedly and the bike wants to leave your ass behind. I got the 1920 seat option so nothing to hold me on other than my knees gripping and pointing my toes downward. LOL !

[@InvictvsNox]

I love the look of that seat, but I also need my ass held in place when I'm really getting on it! lol. Thanks for watching.

[@699669king]

Trust me I am thinking about that myself. I like the Corbins. I just wish they made Corbin Tractor Seats. And thanks for producing KZbin videos I look forward to watching.

[@bobbersbeardsbrews3720]

I'm sure you're right as a general rule. But I saw the Scout Bobber and I knew that was the one and it became my first bike. But I bought the bike over a decade past my regularly getting bi annual speeding tickets. Timing is everything. Ten years ago, this bike would have been way too much. Now, it's just right.

[@hotrodhendrix1]

Spent 2 years restoring a 64 Honda dream. Three reasons 1. Break from cars 2. Cheap when broken up but still super cool 3. Make the wife get comfy with the idea of a motorcycle. Enjoyed that around town for 6 months before going to the 15 scout. Took a few rides to get used to having power and brakes lol

[@JakubKazmierski]

First bike was/is a Scout 2018(ABS) - Night Dragons. Put over 15k KM so far on it. The Scout drives differently at over 4000 RPM and at around 2k-3k RPM. As it actually is my first bike I can say it did the job fine. I drive in rain and all sorts of weather as soon as it's above freezing. The big advantage to this bike is that I don't want to get rid of it after a year. I grew with the bike and I still love it. You have to pick your argument, can't state that the 60 is fine and the 69 is not as a beginner. Got to try the 60 this year and it rides very similarly to the 69. The 60 is missing some HP on the higher gears(5th which is 6th on regular Scout) when you are doing over 100km, but it has almost the same pickup on lower gears where torque comes to play. Comparing the two the sixty is a: 999cc, 78HP, 65 ft-lbs, and weights 525 lb. The 69(regular scout) :1133cc, 100HP, 72. ft-lbs, weight 533lb. The "power" specs are very similar, hence they ride and pickup similarly on the first 4 gears. One big difference is that the regular scout comes with Telescopic Fork - Cartridge Type front fork, which is better than the Sixty, and a pair of NightDragon Tires(some of the best tires on the market), vs the junk the Sixty comes with. You can't claim that one bike is fine while the other is not, they are too similar. In the first 4 gears they ride very similarly, but the 69 has better shocks and tires. Also the 69 handles the highway a bit better because you have access to the extra HP on the highway. However, overall the bikes are very similar in performance in the first 4 gears, the gears you would be using on the street. Trying to argue that the 60 is okay and not the 69 seems very ignorant, it's like you haven't been on both the bikes.

[@canadianrydz7057]

The scout bobber was my first, i have almost 30,000km on it. I tell everyone its a perfect first bike because you won’t outgrow it, the throttle range is massive meaning you can short shift while new and never accidentally spin the tires, the huge flywheel makes it unbelievably forgiving if you shift poorly. Your situation where someone downshifts and finds they’re in the high (dangerous) power band just doesn’t happen. A new rider hears that engine rev higher than they’re used to and they don’t grab the throttle, twist it and wait for it to explode.... I feel like you kept saying everyone was going to disagree with you because you were just saying that for ratings. Anyway. It doesn’t matter to me what people get for a first bike but ive said exactly the opposite to almost everyone, recommending against the 60 as well and i think ive probably caused a few sales. Ive talked to a few people whose first bike was a honda shadow. It was almost my first bike. The scout is like 5lbs lighter. I just don’t see any reason to guide people away from the scout

[@newjargon1697]

The Scout is a beast. Very fun bike. Faster than you think, until you start observing the speedo climbing. On wet roads caution is definitely necessary, it'll start baking tire when you may think the clutch is slipping, until you get used to it. Ride safe brothers!

[@jonathannovak5961]

My first bike ever. Scout 60. Couldnt agree with you more. The big scout would've been waaayy too much for me. But, like you said, I was drawn to the look. I find myself chugging along at 45 in 4th and feels like I'm in too high a gear but hit the throttle and the power is there, but not too much to get out of control. Great vid.👍

[@InvictvsNox]

Many thanks again, Mr. Novak~

[@jonathannovak5961]

InvictvsNox so you suggest crash bars? Since I only have 200 miles of experience... I'm open to as many suggestions from an experienced rider as I can get. If I can do them within a tight budget is to be determined. I'm a 44 year old married dad, so I'm not a daredevil but I'll rip through 3 gears (I found rev limit in 1st once). I have noticed I dont lean into my turns enough. I dont know if I trust the tires grip enough yet.

[@dalekidd420]

I'm looking at Scouts as my first bike... I just have a thing for Indian bikes. I have not yet decided between the Scout and Scout 60, but I'm actually leaning toward the 60 purely due to insurance considerations. (Up here in Ontario, a rookie pays through the nose for insurance on anything over 1000 cc.) Interesting note: quite a few of the motorcycling courses up here have moved AWAY from the 250-300cc bikes to learn on, because they are recognizing that NOBODY is going to actually BUY and RIDE anything in that size range! My local school now trains riders on Honda 600s... I hope to take the course this spring.

[@dalekidd420]

Oh... and at 55, I'm WELL past my hot-rodder phase. In a province where the HIGHEST speed limits are 100 km/hr (about 60 mph), I'm not likely to be pushing EITHER bike to anything even remotely approaching it's limits!

[@MiamiGuy1972]

I agree with you; when I started riding in 1992, I bought a Yamaha Fazer 700cc as my first motorcycle (before that, only a Vespa and other scooter types...) without any formal training, and I immediately realized it was too much. But I was young and dumb, and that's what I did. After two years I sold it, and I haven't been on a bike since then. After all this time, I'm trying to get back into the saddle, with a novice motorcycle class, and a bike size I can enjoy more and feel more comfortable. Great video! (I DO LOVE an Indian Scout though...something like that is my eventual keeper)

[@petermackay4267]

For my first bike. I looked at a Scout and a year ago bought a Yamaha Bolt instead for the reasons he stated here. In retrospect I feel it was a mistake. I had absolutely no issues with the Yamaha. It is a nice bike. I drove the bike 1,000 miles and just 3 weeks ago traded it in for a 2019 Scout, which is what I should have bought in the first place. If you have respect for this bike she will be whatever you want it to be. It is a beautiful machine. I have 350 miles on it because of the weather, but if it were good weather, I wouldn't be writing here, I'd be out on my Scout. My advice? Buy what you love. Treat it right and respect what it can do but wait until you can do it, and you'll be fine and save a few G's in the process.

[@jasonadams1875]

I think I agree with you- I bought a scout rogue 60 as my bike- I’m a returning rider after 20 years- it’s honestly got plenty of juice, with pipes and air flow kit, probably around 85-86 hp at the higher rev, but it gets up to speed really quick- I like cruising at 60-70, and going through twisty roads but by no means am I a racer- it also does great in traffic- kind of a Swiss Army knife of motorcycles- also they just look so good- my rogue looks like it’s going fast while sitting still- yeah a reg scout may be too much for beginners, I think a 60 honestly would be too, but it depends on the rider and I would have done fine with the reg just because of my riding style

[@timwolgast9906]

I bought an Indian Scout 60 last year and took the course. The 60 is a GREAT FIRST bike! It is not the bike but the person riding that counts.

[@InvictvsNox]

I think it can make an amazing first bike. I'd just try and find one used.

[@josephhathy815]

I totally agree! My 1st bike was a Honda nighthawk 450, and to me that felt perfect. A scout I think is too much as a starter bike... at least I know it would've been for me. I still have my Honda and its a fun bike, but I'm ready for something bigger and faster ;)

[@InvictvsNox]

If you've explored every inch of that bike's horsepower and handling, I think you'd find a full-size Scout a great upgrade!

[@lgen626]

Joseph Hathy bro get the Scout. You’ll love it. I got the the 2018 Scout Bobber and I love it. Kind of a stretch for my budget but worth every penny.

[@juliancain6128]

Good advice! Started on a scooter way back...15 years later I was on a V-Max. Took a few years break from riding, bought a TW 200 then back on a Triumph 900 - start small, go bigger .

[@spoonbruh741]

If I’m honest, I trust myself enough, maybe not as my FIRST. But my second or third, once I get used to riding.

[@davidperton4956]

So I am 44 years old just got my endorsement. Took the class, after doing a lot of research and got the Honda rebel 500 for my first bike. And I do agree with you, as a new rider we all want to get a cool looking bike but as new riders we do not have the practical experience for riding a more powerful bike. We need to gain the experience before moving on.

[@keithsingleton1698]

I know you think people will disagree with you but I don’t. I started out (30 years ago) with a 550 Yamaha. It was exactly what I should have ridden at the time for two reasons: 1. It wasn’t too big (heavy or powerful), 2. It wasn’t too expensive (in case I had an accident). I bought the Scout for two reasons: 1. It is a re-introduction bike for me (Haven’t had a bike for 20 years even though I rode a LOT) 2. I can afford a nice bike and wanted the quality and looks of the Indian Scout. So, even though I am experienced, it was an easy choice because, as you mention, it is an easy bike to ride and you can grow into the power the bike provides. Thanks for a great video and for taking the chance that people would flame you. Takes guts my man.

[@InvictvsNox]

Thank you! I'm happy to hear your perspective.

[@rebelwraith8138]

Great video. Would love to start out on a scout sixty but I think my first bike is gonna be a Craigslist special that I can beat the hell out of.

[@InvictvsNox]

You are 100% on the correct path.

[@OpenRoader]

It's a smart move. Then if you fark it up, you won't be too upset. After a year, you'll be good to go.

[@lgen626]

RebelWraith 81 that’s a smart choice ma dude

[@coryjones7360]

I just did the same thing... 1500 dollars on Craigslist ... my first bike. Give it a year, and I’ll be ready for my first good bike.

[@rebelwraith8138]

@@coryjones7360 I went and got a 1996 Kawasaki Vulcan 800 for 1000 bucks. Needs some work but it runs.

[@TheDanielriggins]

My first bike was a "17 Scout 60! I went from just casually cruising to having a lot of fun now that I hit 10k miles. It took a while to build confidence and experience on it. Forgiving enough though for mistakes. I take the toll roads to attempt to wind out 2nd gear....otherwise it wouldn't be legal (have easily punched it to 115 twice now). The 60 will still get to 70/80 in 2nd.... Not the most comfortable on the hands unless you switch the grips but it has pickup. A good test of skill is smooth slow turning coming from a higher gear and generally anything in the rain. I learned some finesse after learning to ride in the rain on it.

[@iKillborn2kilNOE]

My very first bike is the 2015 Indian Scout. I took classes and very early on learned that I need to be respectful and mindful my surroundings its more about being responsible. Took me about 2-months before getting on the freeway. In fact this video made me JUST realize that this bike is in fact a high performance bike and I didnt ev3n know I can treat it like a sports car. Time to jump onto the GIRL!!!

[@InvictvsNox]

Glad you're cautious! Stay safe.

[@Burnersforvanlife]

I agree with most you said. Old time biker, 60 years old. Had everything from mopeds to busas. My bike is now the Scout, and it delivers far more power than a newby can handle safely. Thats not saying he will kill himself, but his chances of death will be higher. Learn on something more sedate.

[@matthewsinclair507]

Got the regular Scout for my first bike. Absolutely no regrets.

[@brianremington]

I disagreed with you on FB and disagree with you here. The Scout is my first bike and it does not have too much power. Funny thing is if I don't twist the throttle it doesn't go fast. Maybe its not a good first bike for someone under 35??? Good video like usual.

[@InvictvsNox]

I think you're onto something there. Testosterone is easy to overdose on at a young age.

[@stogie0608]

I agree, just got my bobber and I don’t see how people say it’s too much power.It’s easy on the throttle and doesn’t take off like a rocket. I love it. Very light bike I can’t picture how I can ever drop this bike.

[@wesley8624ify]

It's TRUE I do shift at 4 grand for normal riding,...6 or 7 to kick dust.

[@citylumberjack9169]

My first bike was a Yamaha V-Star 250. Owned it for three years (20,000 miles) before upgrading to a Honda Shadow 750. Now I've had the Shadow for six years (only 10,000 miles though) and I'm debating if I want the power of the Scout or would be happy with a Scout Sixty (and I'm leaning towards the Sixty frankly). No one should be starting on a full-blown Scout. Full agree.

[@InvictvsNox]

I'd honestly say you're overcautious, but that's just me! I think you'd love the Scout at this point!

[@tkordik]

First bike was an SV650 and it was a PERFECT starter bike. 10 years later I’m on my fourth bike now: a 2018 Indian Scout and loving it!!

[@InvictvsNox]

Awesome! I've never ridden an SV650 but I absolutely love the idea of them. The early-mid 00s models are so pretty too.

[@wesley8624ify]

I agree I am a daily rider and I know when it rains be careful!

[@christianmeyer5198]

The Indian scout bobber is my first street bike. Ive been riding dirt bikes my whole life and found that the transition from dirt to street wasn't too complicated. I understand it a whole other world in comparison and I agree that for someone who never road before; the scout is not the proper bike.

[@torstentorson1738]

There's no such thing as a "beginner's bike", it's all about the rider's mentality. No bike is "difficult" to ride as long as you take it wasy. Not even sport bikes.

[@jacobmanning8593]

I absolutely agree with everything you said because I bought a Scout Bobber brand new. I agree because I'm aggressive in everything I do and I'll say the bike has put me through my paces. I've put 5000 miles on my bike in less than 4 months and I know that may not sound like a lot but for a beginner like me ... Let's just say from the start I was out of my league. But I've grown to love the power ban. It's gotten me out of more situations in the highway than I can count. My advice to other beginners is to just ride smart and think ahead,because if you relax too much on this bike you can hurt yourself.

[@dave0z96]

I started on a superduke which was ridicules, but it wast hard for me to control I put it in rain mode a pretty much putted around town and back roads at first you have to really pay attention though it's no joke . I rarely use the the power anyway unless I get on the highway, or in the middle of no where in the country, and I usually don't do more than 15mph over the speed limit . I wouldn't recommend most people do that though I know how people are, I had a yfz450 quad and let a guy ride it once he was grinding gears and almost flipped the damn thing . I couldn't imagine a guy like that on a motorcycle . If I went back in time I'd probable get a Yamaha FZ07 or a Honda cb650 because those bikes aren't to slow but not super fast, lower insurance premiums than a superduke and something that I would probably keep for years . For a cruiser I don't mind the scout I've road one and wouldn't mind owning one . I road my dads Ultra classic and don't much care for it because they're heavy but I'm sure I'd get used to that if I had to .

[@airtexaco]

My Scout is my third bike and in the middle size wise, but third in CC. I love it. First bike was used. I would still have it if my wife didn’t like to ride along-which influences my decision. I’m 50 (part geezer), but do not like geezer/touring bikes. I like having no windscreen. I want to ride for a couple of hours or a commute, have lunch and a drink and go home. Don’t want to live on the damned thing. The idea of sitting on one for 10 hours is appalling... my commute is 30 minutes and a nice mix of 65 mph and too many red lights... it’s perfect. I agree with the MSC. It is so beneficial. And you can use it for your practical at the dmv in most states.

[@bushnelljb]

my first bike was a 2008 Suzuki s40, I put 12k miles on that thing in 2 years. kn&n filter, re jetted it, and gutted the muffler out. it did me very well and bought it for 2k, made it into a bobber style removing fenders and fabricating my own seat and side mounting the license plate. towards the end of that bike I would literally be all the way in it whenever I road hard nearly in the last or second to last gear going around sweeping corners. just recently I picked up a indian scout and put a tune, exhaust and intake on the thing and it is sometimes too much and I love it. I still cant ride it at it's full potential, I tried using a drag racing app to see how fast my 1/4 mile was and did nearly a 3 second 60 foot rolling into it and managed a 12.6 at 107 mph

[@InvictvsNox]

I love your style, man. That little LS650 engine rules and I love what people do to that bike!

[@bushnelljb]

@@InvictvsNox wish I could add a picture of it! it sold fast when I put it on the market place

[@InvictvsNox]

@@bushnelljb kick it to me over on Instagram, I'd love to see it!

[@kennethwarren6447]

Just got my first bike last month and it’s a 2016 scout.

[@willosigler4253]

I gotta say if he thinks this bike is real powerful he’s got another thing coming when he rides a fast bike(totally a fine first bike). Scout is no slouch and I still love it!

[@ChangedWinds]

I got the regular scout as my first bike because the guy I was talking too about Indian kept pushing that "girls aren't that strong/not good riders" button. I just hit my one year anniversary owning it and my first full year riding, despite how tame it is I'm excited how I'm not board of it yet. Traveled around the Midwest and South, started getting minor upgrades to improve my comfort, performance and I love it. Wanna get a Springfield, but I'm happy with my cute little Indian Scout.

[@InvictvsNox]

Hell yes! And nice Toriel avatar too, haha. Ride safe.

[@ChangedWinds]

InvictvsNox thank you, I got a soon-to-be 13 year old at home so I can't be turned into road kill just yet

[@dtrust68]

I started on a 2005 Suzuki GSX-R 600 20th anniversary edition never riding before this bike was scary for me but i ended up doing 150mph and blah blah got a ticket going 96 in a 70...didn't even have my endorsement but i did have a permit. then sold it. got a 2016 Yamaha FZ07 hated it but it was ok for 3 years. finally got my endorsement when i bought it brand new...now as of 4 days ago i'm on a 2019 Indian Scout Bobber and i couldn't be happier.

[@InvictvsNox]

That is quite a methodology lol!

[@stopdalies]

Thank you! Makes sense, trying to get my M class soon, will keep this in mind when searching for my first ride.

[@turtle19dad]

I actually agree with you. I went to MSF and started on a Rebel 300.

[@poorasslawstudent]

YEah don't make your 1st bike new or expensive. You will drop it, even if just in the parking lot.

[@docbaduck]

thank you a lot ! I was debating wether or not the scout was too powerfull for my first bike. and I have a friend who actually recomended me to take it instead of the sixty. but that same friend as always chosen more than he could handle and he admited it. but still... that scout with 100 horsepower looked sooooo good ! so thank you so much. thank you for stopping me from making a terrible mistake. i'll get the vulcan s instead. (and even than, i'm worried because everybody says it's so powerfull and fast)

[@InvictvsNox]

The Sixty or the Vulcan (preferably not the new S) would both be great starter bikes. Happy to help!

[@MeatballRebel]

Funny I took the MSF course on a 25hp bike, bought a Ducati Monster 620, and the first time riding is was like holysh%t I had better be careful. Fast forward years and many thousands of miles, the Scout is fun at full throttle but you better be careful cause it is fast and does not brake like a sport bike. I save the fast stuff for my Aprilia RSV Mille which is definitely 100% not for beginners!

[@jamesrevell6475]

Not my first choice as a beginner. Unfortunately anything under 1000cc is impossible to find nowadays. The Scout 60 is the smallest cruiser in stock that I can find. Wanted a Honda Rebel 500 as my first bike but I'd be waiting another year before it's available. Plenty of Honda Rebel 1100 for sale but for the price the Indian is a much better deal.

[@applemuffin7253]

I kinda understand your point however We tend to steer the argument that the bike is somewhat the problem to so many accidents etc when really it all boils down to the rider and attitude on the road especially respectful riding behaviour and the way the bike is treated I own an R1 & GSXR 1000 and I always try to think of the consequences of what the possibilities are if I was to take stupid risks and the outcome So of course ride a bike that is best suited however your a goner on a slow or fast bike regardless

[@quintinlindsey7967]

I have a shadow vlx 600 by far not the fastest but man can you ride the heck out of it, draggin pipes through every corner!!!

[@theunfortunatespectacle7381]

I taught myself to ride on a V Star 1300, mostly at night, with MC Rider videos. The bike and I are still alive, probably because she outweighs the Scout by 200 lbs. Now that I've learned to handle that thing, I feel like the Scout would be swell. The motorcycle course is on 150s(?), which made me feel like a circus bear in the rain for 8 hours. You should avoid it. Your first bike is not meant to be your last bike. They're like marriages that way.

[@davidknowles3459]

I think you are spot on.The Scout 60 was designed for the first time rider.

[@mamalannightshyaman]

I was 4 hours from buying a scout as my first bike but I balked, ended up with a rebel and it was a good choice but I think my next one will be the scout. You want to know how I know I’ll get one next? I still watch goddam scout KZbin videos

[@cembanditx1]

The 2018 scout now comes with night dragon tires. Way better then kendas. Scout is fine as a first bike. 4K isn't really short shifting...2800k for scout would be a short shift. The bike cruises at 3600-4400 for most people. The rest of the rev range is for funsies.

[@davidmcbrayer8286]

My first bike was a 1986 Honda Rebel 250 with like a whopping 15 hp. I am glad I started on the rebel and not the Scout. I would have probably killed myself on the Scout being that I started riding when I was 14 at the legal age you can get a motorcycle license. I agree with you 100 percent. I own a 2019 Indian Scout now and love it! Just hate the seat, but that's fixable.

[@InvictvsNox]

Exactly! I'm glad you're having fun with the new one too!

[@shawnbrooks9642]

Ordered a 2019 scout from the dealer, but before it arrived I changed my mind and got the 19 chief dark horse instead, I’m happy with my decision

[@OpenRoader]

Every time you put out one of these videos about how I probably won't agree with you and then I do, I have to question myself LOL It always makes sense to start out on something smaller and work your way up, especially on the street. The Scout over 6k RPM is fucking scary. The real bummer is not having a proper tachometer. It's impossible to see that little digital tach while your pounding out the gears, which is one of the reasons I rarely hammer it all the way up to the top of the redline.

[@MeatballRebel]

That's the fun of the Scout rev it up and hang on! All kidding aside, not advised on a Scout for a beginer at all.

[@InvictvsNox]

Ohhh, I do it way more times than I probably should passing people lol

[@blindblackdog2818]

My first bike 2021 scout sixty, no riding experience I drive like a grandpa never been over 50 on scout doing ok just low speed crash while making a u turn crash bars nice Investment

[@matthewbrady2311]

Thank you for you opinion and honesty Ill keep it in mind if i dont listen and die on a scout becuz i really want one! Never ridden before

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

Yes I agree with most of what you say , being a motorcycle instructor myself in Australia you are by law in this country are not allowed to ride a bike over a certain HP or KW. ( its a power to weight ratio thing ) and to obtain a motorcycle licence in Aus takes some time and training. Which I agree with ,I also think that riders should do advanced riding courses every 2 years to refresh there skills. The riders in Australia that are in the highest risk group is the over 45,s believe it or not ! as when they got there licence there was no such thing as training etc so theses guys have still got there licence ( from 20 years ago ) haven't ridden in that long " the kids have finally left home and they know have some money to spend and go and buy the fastest thing on 2 wheels and think they can ride like they did 20 years ago !

[@InvictvsNox]

Respectfully, I disagree. But you make good points too. I think you've inspired an upcoming video. :)

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

Our road statistics in Australia reflect this. Education on everything in life improves our skills .

[@theghostofloki]

I mean I’m taking the msf course soon. I’ve been wanting a scout for years. I’m a bigger guy 6’3 230 pounds. I plan to start on a scout because it will be comfortable. I do plan to buy used though. I don’t wanna finance my first bike.

[@ARXFrag4U]

My first bike was a 2015 Indian Scout. Not sure why you wouldn't start on an Indian Scout. Unless you can't afford it.

[@scottmitchell6389]

Have had my scout since 2016 bought it new crushers on it first thing i did then a tractor style seat beach bars new led head light indian saddlebags old school indian horn which i ordered from australia intake under the seat so the tank was raised looks better turned over 22.000 miles on her so had everything it needed done at the dealership she runs like a new bike and loud and growling luv her probably won't part with her keep her and get maybe a bigger indian in a couple of years had two bikes in the past 700 yamaha maxium x the scout is a great bike

[@ShiftStyle]

Scout sixty was my first bike still got it 4700 miles later !!!

[@terrenceconway6173]

With it being your first bike, did you ever lay it down, or has the process been good as long as you're easy on it?

[@terrenceconway6173]

I'm searching for a first bike, has settled on the Honda Shadow 750, but am very intrigued by the Scout 60. I have heard that the Shadow can be a little iffy in the 70-85 mph range, and my commute is 40 minutes each way of open road, so I'm starting to second guess that.

[@ShiftStyle]

Terrence Conway I did drop the bike twice because I hit the breaks to hard and the bike went down I practiced so much on it to the point that I traded it in and now have an Indian challenger I think the scout is a great first bike but would say get the regular scout because it’s fast 🤪🤪

[@KlingonCaptain]

Point well taken. I am planning on starting with a Scout Sixty because of the price point, but for a second I thought about waiting a little longer and just going for the full Scout. I will definitely stick to getting a Sixty now that I have seen your video and understand the logic. Thanks for the down shifting demonstration as well, it really drove your point home.

[@jonathannovak5961]

KlingonCaptain I got my thunder black stock 60 about a month ago. First bike ever. Couldnt be more pleased. Only thing I owned before was a Suzuki 250 quad. Drove a CBR900 about 20 years ago a friend let me try. Out the door no extras $10,570 in Michigan. Get it man. You'll be happy you did.

[@InvictvsNox]

Thanks for watching, KK! Super happy to know it's helped you in your decision. It won't be the best bike for the highway, but even the Scout 69 doesn't fit that description either. At least your 5th gear will be the same as my 6th, so highway cruising won't be an issue.

[@jonathannovak5961]

95 is brutal without a windshield. Cruising at 75 is only fun for 40 mins.

[@jonathannovak5961]

@@PG1000. spartan cycle in Clinton twp across from wolverine Harley. Gratiot just south of M-59. Ask for Brian Bell and tell him Ty sent you so i can get $100 towards parts.😁👍

[@jonathannovak5961]

@@PG1000. didn't get any upgrades but it was $10,570 out the door for my thunder black scout 60 2018. Got RCX excalibur slip ons later for $379 installed.

[@snowmanrainmaker]

I love my Indian Scout!!👍🤩

[@sterlingross9133]

Wouldn't an Arch be the top of the v-twins , I mean the scout isn't event top of the Indian line. The scout 60 is the same bike , gotta admit your opinion is very unpopular indeed. Almost troll bait.

[@InvictvsNox]

Arch is a boutique brand. Indian is mass-market. I even struggle to consider the Ducati Diavel a "cruiser".

[@Pipes61874]

It' would be great if someone developed some type of limiter for any bike that way a new rider could buy what they want then as they develop there skills could remove the device

[@mattellis7856]

The bike only goes as fast as you make it, but thank you for you thoughts!

[@danielwardley6138]

good point, its a split personality. when you wind it up you quickly realise that the chassis is no match for the power, and that when it get scary, btw, what pipes are you running, sounds great

[@InvictvsNox]

I use the RPW Brave system. Check out my previous vids on it!

[@thunderhawkthebassist5048]

I asked my teacher in college about a first bike and I said I would start with like a 700 even though I’m a bigger dude so I wouldn’t kill myself and he told me that it doesn’t matter if I started with a 1500 or a 700 it’s all about how fast you go

[@InvictvsNox]

That's awful advice because speed is only a single factor in the overall experience of motorcycling.

[@keithintheplains1667]

Have grown up with bikes... Am 57 now. If you can't fix it yourself......don't get one....EV-EH!.....Now have 2005 Honda Shadow Aero 750....best bike I've ever owned. Balance is best I've ever ridden...power...yeaaaa buddy! While buddies have to take their Harleys to the shop for an oil change.....mine keeps on runnin'! (Do my OWN damn maintenance) And my insurance is $42.00 bucks a year. Great vid! Good advise! My addition to your vid? If you can't fix it yourself....don't buy it. WWG1WGA

[@InvictvsNox]

Thanks! Totally agreed.

[@Aglassact77]

Great Video! Also couldn't agree with you more on the 60 and it's handling. My third bike and I'm loving it . For a bit of money you can make it faster than a regular Scout Power Commander 5 Better intake Better Exhaust ( I went with Hacker exhaust) it Dynos at around 103 hp and that's plenty for me . It will take on a smaller type sportbike no problem now 👍

[@TheJMan1K]

I’m looking into getting my first bike, turning 16 very soon. I’ve ridden dirts and 4wheelers most of my life (yes completely different beast) but would you say a used Scout would be a reasonable investment. I understand the responsibility that comes with having such power and don’t plan on doing stupid stuff. Think it’s worth it considering I can buy one off a family member for the same price as a Rebel500???

[@Grassroots_Hegemon]

I can only speak for myself but I started on a 650 V star and a couple months of riding and I was already looking for more power.

[@exexpat11]

One it is a light and small bike. It has a lot of power. Easy to put the feet down on the ground at stops. Thing is a blade on the road. I can see it getting away from new riders that are not careful. If you are conservative and ride careful why not? Only major drawback is a small tank.

[@InvictvsNox]

I prefer to recommend starter bikes that absolutely can't get away from anyone. But yes, it's very manageable!

[@civicboiG703]

For everyone that says they had it as a first bike have you had some experience with bikes as in like dirt bike experience

[@RebelRides]

I kinda, sorta agree and disagree. It's been a fantasic first bike for my mrs but she's sensible. If I had one of these as my first bike I'd definitely have come unstuck. 😂

[@chrisbolton2500]

Dazzle Яebel Rides But don't you envy their ability to choose what bike to start on? I was one of the lucky one's who was restricted to 250cc before the test, after which depended on your wallet as much as anything........(BSA Lightning in my case, don't judge me) I dread to think what they have to go through now, it's a whole different level of dedicated and financial investment. UK = 'Nanny State'! (Rant over........and, breath) Like the lower mirrors mind you. I think I'll have some of that on my Thruxton.

[@InvictvsNox]

@Chris: I do NOT envy the UK's displacement laws. I love that you can simply go out and buy a Suzuki Hayabusa with nothing more than a LEARNER'S PERMIT here lol But that's why I wanted to make this video. Sportbikes and cruisers are totally different animals, but I feel like people don't take into account just what kinda monster lays in wait at the top of the Scout's rev-range.

[@chrisbolton2500]

InvictvsNox I take your point entirely. I would be tempted to say the Scout is a wolf in sheep's clothing, but that sort of implies I find the looks lacking. Nothing could be further from the truth, I came within an inch of buying one. Loved it then and love it still. I found it had similar manners to the Thruxton R, which was my eventual choice. The Thrusty is a prefect lady until you hit 5000.........and then the 'good time girl' comes out to play. Again, similar to the Scout, the Thruxton is specd., to flatter you. As you point out in one of your previous videos, most bikes are bought with the heart and not the head. Arguments about cost effective transport and the rest are just used to convince others. The last thing I ever asked looking at a bike was 'what's it return mpg?' I don't know what the insurance situation is in the USA, but I'd place a bet on premium price being the major factor between what you'd like opposed to what you'll get........(unless your very old like me, then it doesn't matter!) It's a difficult question. I'd never try and stop someone in their choice, but I would perhaps council caution as you point out. Besides, I'd hate to see £12,000 of someone's hard earned go down the road in a shower of sparks that's for sure........

[@DaemonWulf7]

i told my son with no experience "i could hand you the keys to my bike ('18 Scout Bobber) and if i told you to keep the revs under 4000, AND YOU LISTENED, you'd be perfectly safe." because the minute you get over 4000, it's a whole different beast.

[@InvictvsNox]

Yes, exactly!

[@hillumicheal2370]

Haha am 20 and scout is my first motorcycle♥️♥️♥️ and I love it the most ...I would like to know what exhaust was that .. that sounds good 🔥

[@InvictvsNox]

Thank you! 😊 I made a video about it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZDUmmiYoK99Z7M

[@matthewbarnhart5874]

Thanks for the cautionary tale. Be careful and be wise.

[@alxemend7655]

He's kind of right, I know we wanna be macho men and all but this things can kill you. I own a 2020 scout bobber sixty.

[@Fallair24]

So I rode a Bonneville T100 until it got stolen and haven't ridden in about 10yrs, have I transitioned back to being a "beginner" rider?

[@InvictvsNox]

Nah man, you good.

[@benedictang9103]

I like the indian scout and scout sixty on numerous test rides. It is comfortable and the feels lighter than my Kawasaki Vulcan S 650. I sold my Vulcan S 650 but i just can’t buy the scout or the scout sixty because of the price. Also the Vulcan S 650 has a sportbike engine with alot more torque because of a different crank. It is fast but the vibration kills my hands and legs after an hour of riding

[@InvictvsNox]

I wasn't really referring to the new Vulcan. I should have specified that, but I'm happy to hear from you about it! I need to try one for myself.

[@ChaohsiangChen]

I plan to start on a Chinese dual sport.... Teach you how to ride and wrench your bike.

[@dryphillogic]

Hey brother. Hope I’m not too late to the party, but what jacket are you wearing? Thanks and ride safe.

[@SonnOfSam9975]

What do you think about people like me that's forced to be outside of the beginner box that wants to learn 6'6 280LBS. Any suggestions for someone that wants to get into the world of motorcycles?