Indiana Jones and the Great Circle [4K] AMD RX 7900XTX - Very Smooth + Missing Settings Discussion

[@RJTHEGAME]

Also speaking as someone whos tried it on a 4080 Super I think the main differences for me I noticed while not checking everything in every area was the shadow quality when RT is on I think that's what stood out the most for me AMD Users still getting a great experience at native with the RT baked in otherwise I expected it to look a lot worse considering it's Nvidias baby lol, but really does look nice without all the FULL RT & yes it was really great to see the XTX Running it so well at native on max settings when it has some RT which you can't turn off

[@oropher1234]

The other settings may be less noticable at first glance, but actually are quite noticable.

[@AMD718]

Kudos for being one of the few reviewers to call out the lack of FSR upscaling, and XeSS, as well as locking the PT modes out of non Nvidia hardware. I feel like if this were reversed the Internet would be on fire and HUB would be out making videos castigating AMD for anti consumer behavior, but for some reason no one seems to care when it's Nvidia doing it.

[@MirelRC]

As usual

[@UKKN516]

Right another marketing game for Nvidia tbh like Cyberpunk still no FSR 2.2 and no FSR 3.1 but everyone is going to use these games to make their argues when clearly Nvidia is paying the devs not to implement the best tech from the competition. This is why I stay away from RTX titles. Callisto didn’t have dlss for a month or two the whole internet raged and cried. Took Cyberpunk forever to update their game and still hasn’t done it properly .

[@TerraWare]

Indiana Jones the Great Circle runs great on the RX 7900XTX but what about the missing settings and features? Lets discuss it.

[@chrissyboy7047]

Its not purely an amd issue but where is the full screen mode? Is it just the game pass version that doesnt have it?

[@TerraWare]

@@chrissyboy7047 Correct. Game Pass version is missing the Fullscreen option whereas Steam has it

[@chrissyboy7047]

@@TerraWare thank you for confirming. I thought I was going crazy as I kept seeing benchmarks where they had it set to full screen. I wish they wouldnt do that with game pass. Why not just give us the same version

[@Paulie8K]

Agree with the settings that are meant for future GPUs. As a guy who made a massive jump from a 960M laptop to a RTX 3080 (had a 5700XT shortly in between then sold it), going back to old games that I was barely able to play at 1080P low settings on my laptop and just cranking them at 4K made me feel as if I was playing remastered versions of the same games.

[@dougquaid570]

Path tracing can wait. It's the future but not worth having to upscale for as that degrades image quality anyway. In my humble opinion.

[@oropher1234]

I haven't seen anyone talk about the CPU demands of this game. It can really stress the CPU in and around the Vatican area, i think especially with Full Raytracing enabled. Actually Full Raytracing still looks really really good on my 4080 at 1440pDLSS quality even on my 4koled TV. I noticed that this OLEDTV has much less noticable degradation in image quality when playing below native res compared to all pc monitors i have used in the past.

[@TerraWare]

I agree, I have run many games at 1440 on my LG oled TV. It looks great. Not as sharp as 4K but doesnt look as bad as running under native res in LCD alternative

[@MaxPowerThe]

And what is surprising here is that this game works great on xbsx, I played it for many hours, at a resolution of 3200x1800p with some reduction.

[@TerraWare]

Works good on Series S too. I want to try it on my Steam Deck. If it can run at a consistent 30 FPS this may be one of the most scalable games.

[@bfhandsomeface409]

Got a 7900xtx for around $650 after a sale and a discount I had on black Friday. Hopefully it can be undervolted to get the power use down a little bit.

[@qarim350xd]

Not being a fanboy here, but if the RDNA 4 will be capable or performing Path Tracing here, why prevent those future users from making use of the next gen? On my 7900xtx I wouldn't even bother because I know it will fail to do so when PT were activated, unless FSR 3.1 is on set on balanced and PT is only at lowest setting activated, but FSR is totally missing as well. Very weird PC gaming industry nowadays, I hope a patch comes before RDNA 4 comes

[@TerraWare]

Yeah I agree. PT may be difficult now but maybe RX 8000 could have a shot I'd like to see the settings be unlocked for the sake of preservation but also all users who bought it to have access to everything. Maybe since it's an Nvidia sponsored title the effort with the PT and game overall went into taking advantage of Nvidia technologies. I've heard with partnerships of this caliber Nvidia can be pretty hands on with sending engineers, especially being a proprietary engine. It could be a QA issue that these settings may not be ready including FSR. Just a guess, I have no idea obviously. Looking at the ton of other Nvidia sponsored games we have out already they have FSR and even FSR FG with all settings available. I know there's rumors Nvidia paid to not have FSR or PT on Radeon. I don't believe that because it doesn't make sense. It would be the case with other games too. Judging by how this game launched and PT had to arrive through a patch and its still not 100% perfect I think it's a QA issue and will eventually come. Time will tell.

[@AMD718]

Actually, if the 4060 can run PT mode then the XTX should be able to run it as well. Maybe not fully maxed out at 4k native, but should be a very respectable experience at 1440p. It's locked out because it's an Nvidia sponsored title.

[@roki977]

@@AMD718 4060 cant run PT in this game, rtx 3060 can. Only Nvidia GPUs with 12gb or more.

[@AMD718]

@@roki977 Daniel Owen tested PT with both the 3060 and 4060 Ti. Correct that 8GB is basically a non starter for PT.

[@roki977]

@@AMD718 even 3080 10gb cant use it, imagine that. Such powerful GPU..

[@Godmode_ON24]

I'm quite annoyed they don't have FSR at launch. On my 7800xt at native 3440x1440p, it sometimes drops to 60 in the starting jungle at max settings. With XESS 1.3 quality and FSR FG that would be a nice locked 140 fps. Also the non RT shadows are a huge downgrade from the previous games in this engine, not that surprisingly given this is made for Nvidia cards.

[@OniiXGaming]

great video brother

[@dougquaid570]

i hear there's a way to fix shadows in the lod config files.

[@RJTHEGAME]

Yeah i'm back on my 7900XTX now and playing it native Looks very nice indeed & I don't think FSR is needed at all on the XTX, but we should have the option at least 3.1 FSR hopefully Brilliant game also, love it! I also totally agree yeah it's good to have games with certain settings that are even making a 4090 struggle & then it gives you some more use of your new graphics card to try it again Always interesting to me that also

[@Kenj040x]

my XTX is getting temps like GPU 56 and Hotspot 75-76 playing on Hyper. Is that normal on 2100rpm?

[@TerraWare]

Those are great temps

[@puffyips]

Planning on using the 6800xt?

[@yoshikombat5217]

I hope he is, I'm curious to see how the game runs with that gpu.

[@TerraWare]

Yeah will check it out on the 6800XT too. Probably within next couple of days.

[@XDDX_NZ]

I think i'll still wait for the FSR patch. Even though it runs 'well', the FPS is still not high enough if you are using a high refresh rate 4k screen. Without FSR you are also using 100% of the GPU for only 70-80fps. I like to play most single player games these days at 4k FSR quality, capped to 60/70fps and then use FG to double it to 120/140fps. This way your power consumption is much lower, around 200-250w for a 4k high refresh rate experience, and in games that are CPU limited you don't hit the CPU limit as much and your CPU/PC is also using less power overall. Would also be nice to have the Path Traced Shadows as an option because the shadow draw distance is a bit low without it, not sure if that LOD setting fixes it.

[@TerraWare]

Could've tried the res scale on Steam version but I'm having some framepacing issues on the Steam version that are not there on the GP version. I've been playing the GP version its smoother.

[@XDDX_NZ]

@@TerraWare Yeah I tried that but it didn't seem to give that much extra FPS and was a bit soft. Might as well wait for FSR since the game has some more issues and those might get fixed too. The sad part is that none of the FSR3 mods work on this game either, apparently because it's vulkan. The game pass version also doesn't work with AFMF because there's no profile in the driver for the game and you can't add it in.

[@TerraWare]

@XDDX_NZ I do think FSR not being in the game yet is probably a QA issue and the game was a bit rushed out the door if you look at how so much was added with a day one patch. Reflex doesnt even seem to yet be in game, some frame pacing issues etc. I'd go as far as saying the PT settings is probably a similar thing. Could be leading into crashes for non Nvidia GPU's. I think waiting a bit to play isn't a bad idea.

[@primesuspect4992]

What's the 4090 getting at 4k supreme? In your last video you didn't include it.

[@TerraWare]

Yeah, that video was focused fully on PT

[@chadwolf3840]

Great stuff. Are you planning to get a 9800x3d? I’d love to hear your opinion on whether it’s worth the upgrade.

[@TerraWare]

I've been thinking about it but am not sure. Not in a hurry about it.

[@armandocano]

I also tried from Game pass with my 7900XTX, fortunately with this card theres no need to use FSR at 4K max settings, but that is a little bit strange not having FSR or XESS, also no option for Full RT, I always wanted to try that even on my XTX in order to see that i don't need it and the difference in my perspective is not so much. i fear that the industry turns this way because as you mention, future intel or AMD cards that can take advantage of this not being able to enjoy because of nvidia exclusivity, we need to have all the opcions and all technologies available for every card, please microsoft make it happen that in windows.

[@TerraWare]

Well this is how I feel about it. I don't think there's anything malicious happening here as far as the Nvidia partnership and path tracing. Nvidia are very invested in RT/PT and AI this is no secret and seeing the tech be pushed forward is a good thing imo. I've personally always been interesting in the tech and seeing it be pushed forward is pretty cool. That said I wouldnt want to see these settings be locked behind exclusivity indefinitely. Thankfully that hasn't been the case with all other games. I'm just speculating but judging by how PT was added with a patch and FSR is coming later. It could be a QA issue. Maybe these settings are causing other GPU's to crash. Even DLSS FG doesnt work with HDR enabled. I think the game needed to release a bit later with all these features well implemented and tested for all GPU but this is nothing new in the industry.

[@mersadazadbakht]

Auto save stuttering has been fixed？

[@fabiantotheonlyone]

i was wondering if its only happening to my system or is a thing nowdays

[@mersadazadbakht]

@ really annoying in this game

[@MrNelahem]

Which model xtx are you using and it stock or overclocked ?

[@TerraWare]

Sapphire Nitro+, i have made some tweaks.

[@MrNelahem]

@@TerraWare Thanks for the reply I was looking at your power draw and clocks compared to my XFX Mercury model.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

Why is no one mentioning the bad frame pacing ? I can clearly see it in this video and when I play it on my pc. The frametimes might look smooth but it doesn't feel smooth what so ever, probably more noticeable with a controller which is how i play but I can see it plain as day in this video lol. Does that look smooth to anyone? Lol

[@TerraWare]

I've experienced frame pacing issues with the Steam version, the Game Pass version doesn't have that. I may make a video about this actually. Are you playing on Steam?

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

@TerraWare mine is actually the gamepass version which is weird haha. I tried everything to sort it out, ddu to uninstall nvidia driver then reinstalled, fresh windows install ( what a waste of time that was lol) I'm not sure if its an issue with Windows 24h2 possibly. I tried setting bios back to stock settings, deleted msi afterburner as that can sometimes cause stutters I've noticed. Nothing works, latency off on the nvidia control panel, vync on, capping it 80 fps seemed to smooth it for a little bit and then it would start becoming off paced again even with the frametimes appearing smooth ( also at times it wouldn't be smooth, at times every 5 seconds it would get a sligglt rough on the frame times, usually when starting the game...goes away after awhile) i just settled using a fixed refresh rate at 60hz which sorts it out but 60fps feels sluggish. Such a pain, putting me off playing lol

[@moosewayne8434]

Nvidia locking PT is just lame exclusivity. Nothing to do with ray tracing power if it was they wouldn’t let a 3060 run it.

[@TerraWare]

I think it's a QA issue. I don't see how locking PT away from Radeon would be a threat to Nvidia. It would be unplayable even if the settings were there. If that were the case they would've done it in other games.

[@jordanturner7821]

I like nvidia for sponsoring this small channel. Thats what we want to see.