Indirectly Moving Your Maxilla (Forward and Up)

Lots of people are using mewing to push their maxilla up. This direct solution has mixed results, and in my opinion is missing a few massive things. Is there something we can do with our head, neck, torso, and entire body that will relocate our maxilla?
I offer lessons in the Initial Alexander Technique, which are conducted one-on-one with a teacher over Zoom. They are designed to help you gain conscious control over how you move your body. Most people have no idea what they’re doing with their body, and as they misuse their body, they end up with discomfort, pain, and other issues that they may not even realize are caused by what they’re doing to themselves. But how do you figure out what you’re doing wrong? And how do you change what you're doing and overcome lifelong habits?
In an Initial Alexander Technique lesson, you will record yourself through Zoom, so you will be able to see and understand what you are doing when you stand, sit, walk, and perform other simple gestures. With the assistance of your teacher, you will come to understand how you are misusing the mechanisms of your body, and you will gain the ability to choose to use yourself in a more sensible way. You can learn how to use your body without pain. You can break free from long held habits. All you need is a system that works.
For more information or to book a lesson, please visit my website: mechanicsofpoise.com/
You can contact me at: [e-mail]
"...[In] my view her maxilla is down and back and should be taken forward by about the same number of millimetres."
John Mew

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Lots of people are using mewing to push their maxilla up. This direct solution has mixed results, and in my opinion is missing a few massive things. Is there something we can do with our head, neck, torso, and entire body that will relocate our maxilla? I offer lessons in the Initial Alexander Technique, which are conducted one-on-one with a teacher over Zoom. They are designed to help you gain conscious control over how you move your body. Most people have no idea what they’re doing with their body, and as they misuse their body, they end up with discomfort, pain, and other issues that they may not even realize are caused by what they’re doing to themselves. But how do you figure out what you’re doing wrong? And how do you change what you're doing and overcome lifelong habits? In an Initial Alexander Technique lesson, you will record yourself through Zoom, so you will be able to see and understand what you are doing when you stand, sit, walk, and perform other simple gestures. With the assistance of your teacher, you will come to understand how you are misusing the mechanisms of your body, and you will gain the ability to choose to use yourself in a more sensible way. You can learn how to use your body without pain. You can break free from long held habits. All you need is a system that works. For more information or to book a lesson, please visit my website: mechanicsofpoise.com/ You can contact me at: [e-mail] "...[In] my view her maxilla is down and back and should be taken forward by about the same number of millimetres." John Mew

[@crocr]

yes. This is so true. By following your advice, I got hunter eyes. I can feel so much pressure (in a good way) all around my skull while hard mewing. I was able to split palatal suture without surgical intervention and It feels so damn good. This has been an absolute game changer for my breathing.

[@jeffsmithdawg]

That's interesting, may I ask what advice you took in particular?

[@crocr]

@@jeffsmithdawg Head should be slightly tilted forward when standing straight. Think of it like this, if you are about to fight someone, when you stare them down, your head's position feels more natural when slightly tilted. This will also give you hunter eyes. You will also notice this feels natural when driving your car or motorbike at high speeds. You will naturally tilt your head a little bit and go into super focus mode.

[@jeffsmithdawg]

@@crocr You mean move the head forward in space, or tilt the angle up? What your saying is nonsense that wouldn't modify your bones around the eye area... If anything tilting the head down while looking up covers eye which would contribute to that look but that is just temporary effect and of course, doesn't really change anything...

[@alexandrosstavrou4224]

What's your age

[@gt_gaming8888]

Bro didi you also do mewing and I wanted to know did mewing give you hunter eyes or only the head posture

[@Matty-H]

There is a craze going on in the mewing world if you go into their rabbit hole with something called 'reverse face mask', it attaches to a mouth piece (usually MSE or palate expander) with rubber bands to bring the maxilla forward. However what you're advocating is pretty much the same without the need of a face mask/device and is also a permanent solution you can do 24/7 where the face mask they say to wear for 16 hours a day.

[@vedicarya7]

Thanx, just what I was waiting for

[@user-qb3uy5cg1u]

This is very interesting. More of this please. Thank you.

[@WholeBodyBreathing]

I like the way you're thinking about this man, much more lucid than the main thought stream

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Thank you! That’s what I aim for: a reasoned approach to guiding and controlling bodily movement.

[@kusalsilva-qt9ej]

Keep the good work mate

[@lukazashovski]

this is such a hidden gem. thank you so much man :) is there any way to vertically grow the maxilla? just asking even though this is probably impossible to do voluntarily aside from surgeries and has nothing to do with moving the maxilla. my maxilla lacks height so when i keep my teeth touching it doesn't look good and my mouth area looks like a chipmunk's and i get chubby cheeks lol

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

In my opinion, it’s not about getting the maxilla to grow, it’s about getting the maxilla to be in its correct spot. When it’s in the correct spot, the fascia of the head will function properly, and over time the influence of properly functioning fascia will reduce any problem there is with the maxilla. The shape of the head, like the shape of the torso, is not static. It takes time, but if you get the boney structures to be in the right relative positions, the condition of the body will normalize towards what’s healthy and natural. And correcting the torso is to a large degree necessary to correct the head, because the head is supported by the torso.

[@XEditsvids]

Wow, ive never looked at it from this point of view. Everything in your video made logical sense. Can you explain first of all how we can change our posture from what it is now to the correct posture and we are not always going to be standing up straight, so how do we maintain this posture walking, sitting, sleeping.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

That’s what my channel is all about! There are a lot of details and nuances to putting together a system for taking conscious control over how you use your body. I can’t sum it up in one post. I have a few playlists that build from the torso to the legs, arms, and neck and head, if you’re looking for a specific place to start. But all the videos on my channel are about presenting this new model of posture and how to attain it.

[@SeethingSimp]

Interesting stuff, I'll check out your other videos about it. I was just wondering what you should do (if anything) while laying down? Obviously in modern times, people aren't upright for most of the day, so you'd think if your theory was correct that even models who are laying on the couch may be undoing whatever posture is needed to keep their faces attractive. Does that sound accurate?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Yes, laying down can tend to cause one to pull their upper sternum back - which when you’re horizontal means pulling your upper sternum down relative to your lower sternum. This can be mitigated somewhat by putting a large blanket under not just the head, but under the upper end of the ribcage.

[@SuperPulseadasArmwrestling]

Guys, do you know how to get to this posture? Whenever i contrcat glutes and abs i get into this posture, and i feel much more pressure on the maxilla

[@Vicgnk]

Very interesting thank you

[@Matty-H]

Thanks for the great video. So, how do we get the maxilla forward and up? By tilting the head, do you mean tilting the chin up, so totally the opposite to a chin tuck? And should I still follow what the Alexander technique says lift the occiput up like a string is attached to the top of my head? Ive noticed when i do this although it slightly puts me into a chin tuck. I was wondering if you could help. Thanks Edit: So after a closer look at your video we are pretty much tilting the torso forward from the anchor point at the hips? Thats the easiest way i like to look at it as it would be easier to remember and put into posture. With also a slight pulling up at the top of the head if i have that correct?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Getting the maxilla forward and up, in my opinion, starts with getting the torso reorganized. You want the ribcage to rotate forward and up at the upper end and backward and up at the lower end. You can place the center of rotation around the height of the armpit at the font of the chest. You also want to lift the ribcage up away from the pelvis. Realistically, you’ll need to consider the pelvis as well, which needs a back and up rotation at the front. For more in depth explanations of the above, you can check out my older videos. Manipulating the head is not where I’d recommend starting (you can’t do much with the head if the torso is disorganized). That said, you don’t want to lift the chin in a way that will tilt the head back, but you do want to lift the entirety of the chin. I don’t think the idea of the string at the occiput is useful. As you say, it can easily cause a crunching of the larynx by retracting the chin because it’s not a very precise direction.

[@Matty-H]

Is it normal to feel like you're leaning forward when in this posture? And would you say we should imagine there is a pivot in line with our armpit where we should start going forward with our torso from this point? Thanks!

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

The pivot should be around the front of the ribcage at the height of the armpit. It can feel like leaning forward, though you want to make sure you’re not going forward and down. You also want to make sure you’re not bringing your lower ribcage or pelvis forward with your head.

[@exphys6513]

Interesting, maybe some are mewing incorrectly. My hallucination was that mewing was creating a suction on the roof of the mouth which may over time decrease the high palate arch widening the palate potentially changing tensions and structure.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

While the suction aspect is something that’s used, I would say most people understand mewing as pushing the tongue up against the roof of the mouth. Widening the palate is part of the goal, moving the maxilla forward and up so that it does not obstruct the airway and is not back relative to the jaw are also key goals. Though, as I say in the video, I think people would be capable of getting a lot more movement of their maxilla if they got their entire head forward and up to where it belongs. Then the fascia and musculature can work the way they're supposed to, and that will, over time, tend to widen the palate.

[@itsover8]

Man this is more complicated than i thought

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

In some ways it’s simple, but it is also complicated. The whole body is connected, so if there’s a problem in one spot, the rest of the body must compensate for that. Trying to correct a problem in any one spot will require changes across the entire body.

[@ChaiWayfarer]

I’ve been watching your videos about posture and its been pretty hard for me to wrap my head around. My main goal is to figure out if I can have a more visible jawline or not would even though I already have low body fat would your course be able to actually help me with that?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

The purpose of the system I teach is to help people coordinate the movements needed to get the parts of the body into the correct orientation and relative position. When that’s done with the head and neck, it will lead to a generally better facial structure, and the jaw should function properly and in balance. When people have a melting chin or weak jaw, it’s essentially always the result of subconscious, habitual movements the person is making that cause the structures of the body to shorten and collapse. That said, without first really working with the torso, sustaining changes in the facial structure is not very doable. Nothing I teach is aimed at fixing an individual postural problem, because in my view and experience that doesn't work. The whole body must be addressed.

[@ChaiWayfarer]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Okay I’ll be booking this weekend 👍

[@JLITTLEBIRD]

Brilliant sir

[@acockworkorange4301]

excellent work. a natural progression of my thoughts on the limitations of afrocentricism in contemporary movement ideologies.

[@7b8yx5b3o]

So, in 2:55, the correct posture is the one on the right? That seems counterintuitive to me since the person looks slouched over. Usually good posture is described more as the left image. Just want to make sure I'm not interpreting it backwards lol

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

The image there is edited to reorganize the parts of the body more towards what I would say is optimal on the right. You say he looks hunched over, but I’ve edited it in such a way that he’s clearly taller on the right. I’ve literally just cut the image and rotated it forward and up. I do understand why it appears closer to what you might think of as hunched, but I think you should question that assumption that a head being forward is necessarily hunched. Hunched typically means forward and down with the head, not forward and up. While I do understand why you would say the left picture looks closer to what’s typically called good posture, does it not seem like his head is pulled very far back in the image? Even those who support the standard model would likely say he looks a bit pulled back there. Do you see that his eyes are pointed on an angle upwards? Do you see that his face is well behind his lower sternum and the front of his ribcage? Look at the ears. In my edit, his ear is upright. In the genuine image, his ear is tilted back and down. In my view the standard model of posture is wrong, and I’m using Jeando Masoero’s model, which I think is much more accurate. So yes, the image on the right is what I’m saying is closer to optimal (although obviously, since it’s an edit, it’s not perfect).

[@JohnBillow]

I have been studying this concept by observing people I know and noticing the patterns in certain postures with positions in facial bones.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Interesting! Let me know if you detect any patterns.

[@JohnBillow]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Oh I already have.. Mewing properly is important but not everybody does it. It is actually a lot less common than you think. This is my analysis and theories on how differences in tongue and head posture can affect your face. 1. *Forward and Upward growth are separate, but can both be achieved* We know there are sutures in the roof of the mouth that allow for more bone growth, one on the x axis and one on the y axis. MSE expanders help expand the palate left and right equally. The same suture is found in the very back of the mouth where the wisdom teeth go, (I'll get into wisdom teeth later). Anyways, the back suture (when pressure is on it through mewing) will expand, making your maxila more forward grown. (And yes when your maxila expands, your mandible/jaw follows with it. Remember that everything is connected) (This is more on how to achieve both growths) 2. *Head posture affects the jaw the most* When you mew with downward head posture, the maxilla will move as usual but the jaw will barely move upwards as much as it should or could. This depends on how bad your head posture is (the worse the posture, the less jaw growth) and if the jaw doesn't move enough, that'll not only cause an overbite but also restrict the maxila from moving completely up to it's full potential because the maxilla and mandible are all connected, and if the jaw is lacking, the maxila will lack too. When your maxila grows forward, your jaw does too, but doesn't get more upswung. When the maxilla grows upwards, the jaw gets more upswung too. Notice how a lot of people (with a prominent nose and decently deep set eyes) tend to have a slight overbite? (And not the slight overbite you're genetically supposed to have with your teeth, but a slight overbite that you can see when their mouth is closed, their top lip sticks outwards). I believe this is because putting your tongue on the roof of the mouth is more common than holding good posture because let's be honest, bad posture is comfortable amongst us all. But remember, the maxila is still forward grown due to the tongue still being there, giving them the features like a prominent nose and decently deep set eyes 3. *Wherever the pressure of the tongue goes, that affects the maxilas forward growth, not upwards growth* This is a personal experience but I've noticed people with an overjet tend to have not very prominent noses, prey eyes, not deep set eyes, a chubby kinda face that doesn't have the sharp angles that make for attractiveness. I believe this is because not enough pressure from the tongue goes towards pushing the maxilla forward because it's touching the teeth, which also causes the teeth to move at the same time, but remember, the tongue is still pushing up so I and other people like this, don't have what is called "long face". I have fixed my tongue posture and have gotten deeper set eyes and a slightly more prominent nose. 4. *The less tongue you apply, the less teeth will show* Front, middle and back third of the tongue matter. In childhood while you're growing adult teeth, wherever the tongue is not resting, the teeth will appear shorter like how we always see our back teeth covered mostly by gum and look shorter in length than our front teeth. I do not know if this can be reversed with mewing after teeth are fully grown in. I do also believe applying less tongue can have the same effect of poor forward maxila growth, but even less growth because at least for the last pattern, the whole tongue is assumed to be applied while in this pattern/example, it isn't. 5. *Mewing makes more space for your wisdom teeth* This has already been theorized by Mike Mew. Make sure your jaw and maxila are well enough grown to ensure that you have space for your wisdom teeth because (realistically) if you get them pulled, (depending which ones you pulled) it will recess your facial bone structure, setting back your full mewing results. If you remove your top wisdom teeth, your maxila will recess (move back) not a whole lot, but noticeably, and if you remove your bottom wisdom teeth, your jaw will recess (move back) not a whole lot, but noticeably. People have made videos talking about that. *(I still have my wisdom teeth and have no plans on getting them removed AT ALL)* 6. *Buck teeth could be caused by the tongue slightly touching the front teeth, or maybe just being closer to the front teeth than the rest of the teeth* Since I previously theorized that more tongue = more teeth, especially in childhood, the front two teeth are getting the most pressure opposed to the rest of the teeth (I'm still not fully sure about this one but I'm thinking it's true, especially since people I've seen with with buck teeth tend to have the same (but slight) overjet look, or if not an overjet, a more oval look to the teeth alignment instead of round, due to the tongue placement I just mentioned earlier in this specific paragraph 7. *Top front teeth and tongue placement* In Top front teeth, gaps are caused by the tongue being too far from the front teeth, and crooked top teeth are caused by: the tongue being too far from the teeth, a recessed maxila & or a narrow palate (not 100% sure on this but just a thought) These are all the patterns I have noticed in many different people and I didn't think I'd find myself typing this all out, but I am. An I'm glad I am. I want other people to observe what I have noticed too. And *AS LONG AS I AM RIGHTFULLY CREDITED* ,Feel free to use this paragraph in a video or anything if you want to further inspect it or break it down or even debunk anything. P.S. this is a pre conclusion, kinda filler space to make this whole entire essay 10 paragraphs long :) lol In Conclusion, Mew with the full tongue on the roof of the mouth and maintain good tongue and head posture so that you can see the best results with maximum Maxillary and Mandibular growth 📈. My family and friends all have different facial bone structures so that's how I was able to put the pieces together. Thank you for reading this well organized Multi- Paragraph essay. 🙏

[@JohnBillow]

Oh I already have.. Mewing properly is important but not everybody does it. It is actually a lot less common than you think. This is my analysis and theories on how differences in tongue and head posture can affect your face. 1. *Forward and Upward growth are separate, but can both be achieved* We know there are sutures in the roof of the mouth that allow for more bone growth, one on the x axis and one on the y axis. MSE expanders help expand the palate left and right equally. The same suture is found in the very back of the mouth where the wisdom teeth go, (I'll get into wisdom teeth later). Anyways, the back suture (when pressure is on it through mewing) will expand, making your maxila more forward grown. (And yes when your maxila expands, your mandible/jaw follows with it. Remember that everything is connected) (This is more on how to achieve both growths) 2. *Head posture affects the jaw the most* When you mew with downward head posture, the maxilla will move as usual but the jaw will barely move upwards as much as it should or could. This depends on how bad your head posture is (the worse the posture, the less jaw growth) and if the jaw doesn't move enough, that'll not only cause an overbite but also restrict the maxila from moving completely up to it's full potential because the maxilla and mandible are all connected, and if the jaw is lacking, the maxila will lack too. When your maxila grows forward, your jaw does too, but doesn't get more upswung. When the maxilla grows upwards, the jaw gets more upswung too. Notice how a lot of people (with a prominent nose and decently deep set eyes) tend to have a slight overbite? (And not the slight overbite you're genetically supposed to have with your teeth, but a slight overbite that you can see when their mouth is closed, their top lip sticks outwards). I believe this is because putting your tongue on the roof of the mouth is more common than holding good posture because let's be honest, bad posture is comfortable amongst us all. But remember, the maxila is still forward grown due to the tongue still being there, giving them the features like a prominent nose and decently deep set eyes 3. *Wherever the pressure of the tongue goes, that affects the maxilas forward growth, not upwards growth* This is a personal experience but I've noticed people with an overjet tend to have not very prominent noses, prey eyes, not deep set eyes, a chubby kinda face that doesn't have the sharp angles that make for attractiveness. I believe this is because not enough pressure from the tongue goes towards pushing the maxilla forward because it's touching the teeth, which also causes the teeth to move at the same time, but remember, the tongue is still pushing up so I and other people like this, don't have what is called "long face". I have fixed my tongue posture and have gotten deeper set eyes and a slightly more prominent nose. 4. *The less tongue you apply, the less teeth will show* Front, middle and back third of the tongue matter. In childhood while you're growing adult teeth, wherever the tongue is not resting, the teeth will appear shorter like how we always see our back teeth covered mostly by gum and look shorter in length than our front teeth. I do not know if this can be reversed with mewing after teeth are fully grown in. I do also believe applying less tongue can have the same effect of poor forward maxila growth, but even less growth because at least for the last pattern, the whole tongue is assumed to be applied while in this pattern/example, it isn't. 5. *Mewing makes more space for your wisdom teeth* This has already been theorized by Mike Mew. Make sure your jaw and maxila are well enough grown to ensure that you have space for your wisdom teeth because (realistically) if you get them pulled, (depending which ones you pulled) it will recess your facial bone structure, setting back your full mewing results. If you remove your top wisdom teeth, your maxila will recess (move back) not a whole lot, but noticeably, and if you remove your bottom wisdom teeth, your jaw will recess (move back) not a whole lot, but noticeably. People have made videos talking about that. *(I still have my wisdom teeth and have no plans on getting them removed AT ALL)* 6. *Buck teeth could be caused by the tongue slightly touching the front teeth, or maybe just being closer to the front teeth than the rest of the teeth* Since I previously theorized that more tongue = more teeth, especially in childhood, the front two teeth are getting the most pressure opposed to the rest of the teeth (I'm still not fully sure about this one but I'm thinking it's true, especially since people I've seen with with buck teeth tend to have the same (but slight) overjet look, or if not an overjet, a more oval look to the teeth alignment instead of round, due to the tongue placement I just mentioned earlier in this specific paragraph 7. *Top front teeth and tongue placement* In Top front teeth, gaps are caused by the tongue being too far from the front teeth, and crooked top teeth are caused by: the tongue being too far from the teeth, a recessed maxila & or a narrow palate (not 100% sure on this but just a thought) These are all the patterns I have noticed in many different people and I didn't think I'd find myself typing this all out, but I am. An I'm glad I am. I want other people to observe what I have noticed too. And *AS LONG AS I AM RIGHTFULLY CREDITED* ,Feel free to use this paragraph in a video or anything if you want to further inspect it or break it down or even debunk anything. P.S. this is a pre conclusion, kinda filler space to make this whole entire essay 10 paragraphs long :) lol In Conclusion, Mew with the full tongue on the roof of the mouth and maintain good tongue and head posture so that you can see the best results with maximum Maxillary and Mandibular growth 📈. My family and friends all have different facial bone structures so that's how I was able to put the pieces together. Thank you for reading this well organized Multi- Paragraph essay. 🙏

[@Victoria-bi8ee]

@@JohnBillowthis whole review is crazy, I read it all. Thanks!!

[@JohnBillow]

@@Victoria-bi8ee you're welcome:) this took me an hour to write and edit. Thanks for reading it!

[@cryingman102]

Im 15 and my jaw is reccesed and my nose is big. I had really great nose and jaw 2 years ago idk what happned but now my jaw is reccswd and nose has a bump pls help

[@siuuumorto]

Sir i kindly need ur advice as i am suffering from crossbite which makes my face assymmetrical it is so much visible that people can see and tell do to This face has worsed . And i consulted a doc and he said that i have to do palatal expansion . Can my chin protude more longer or not

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

I’m not sure I follow your last question on the chin protruding. I would say that your skull is deforming towards an asymmetry because it’s lacking support from your torso and body generally. Getting the fascia of your body and neck working will do a lot to allow the head to be in its correct position, and then the muscles and fascia will pull you away from asymmetry. I don’t have a huge problem with palatal expansion, I think there are pro and cons. But either way, working on the torso and body generally would be beneficial in the long run and would mitigate the negative sides of palatal expansion if you go that route.

[@ofekmizrahi3079]

My maxilla and upper jaw is misaligned to the right side and it causes my whole body to be misaligned in posture and i wanted to know if its possible to move the maxilla and upper jaw horizontally somehow

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

In my view, correcting the torso so that it is not twisted or misaligned will have a huge impact on the jaw. It’s not likely that the jaw threw the body out of whack, it’s the torso that has caused the jaw to become misaligned.

[@LS-gg7on]

so pretty much just spam the posture u showed urself doing over and over till it forms correctly?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

To some degree, although I would say that correcting your posture is not done purely through will power. You have to use your reasoning capabilities to understand what you’re working towards, and you have to use visual feedback to verify that you’re actually moving in the right direction. If you just impersonate what you’ve seen, you aren’t likely to get very far, whereas if you understand the coordinated movements that improve your posture, and you verify that you are orchestrating those movements accurately when you direct yourself to, you will take control over your posture and change right in front of your eyes.

[@HEALME-wh1tb]

Can you make videos about TMJ disorder and facial asymmetries?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

As someone who has had fairly severe jaw problems in the past, in my view, what really matters most to those problems is correcting the torso. When the torso is twisted up and shortened, the head lacks support and falls into asymmetry. Trying to just address the jaw doesn’t tend to work because the problem is not localized to the jaw. I don’t typically focus in on specific problems because the remedy I offer is not aimed at specific problems. By correcting your general coordination and getting the tissues of your body to function properly, you will get at the root cause of the asymmetry and dysfunction. If you haven’t seen it, I do have a series on the neck and head that touches on those subjects and has some procedures you can try out. I have a playlist for it on my channel.

[@omarshaahz9362]

Please can you explain, i can't understand the vedio. Please sir could you explain this. What's we shoud to do for getting forward and widen maxilla. 1. Tuck our chin back 2. Press our tongue forward. Am i correct❓️ Pressing our tongue forward on maxilla 👈🏻 is this step is compulsory ❓️ please explain me in text

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

In my opinion, no you don’t want to tuck your chin back. Chin tucks move the face and head back. If you want your maxilla to go forward and up, you need to move it forward and up. The important thing to consider is this is not just about manipulating the head. You need your torso to be in good condition. When your torso is lengthened, you will have the support you need to move your head forward and up to where it’s supposed to be. When the torso and head are in their correct relative positions, the fascia and musculature will tend to pull the maxilla forward, up, and apart. I don’t think the tongue should be pressed against the maxilla. The tongue goes to the roof of the mouth when we swallow, but it should not be against the roof of the mouth when breathing, and it cannot be against the roof of the mouth when speaking. If you have your fascia and musculature working properly, which requires the bones to be closer to their correct positions, then you don’t need to push the tongue against the maxilla because the muscles and fascia that connect to the maxilla will already be keeping it forward and up and widened. Really your whole body will hold up your maxilla. The tongue is integral in swallowing and speaking, it’s job is not holding up your maxilla. As I say in the video, the first thing to consider is the condition of the ribcage. Is your sternum angled back at the top? Take a picture/video and see.

[@omarshaahz9362]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 thank you a lot ♥️♥️aI'll try and I'll tell you my honest reveiw. And also use this method for widen our palate ❓️and how long time take for this process... How long time i want to do this process for seeing changes in my face❓️

[@TheGuide00]

dude i fixed my posture in minutes wth

[@yusufmohammed9839]

When I do what you say I feel my neck vains closing and I get blind for seconds

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

There shouldn’t be anything that extreme from these manipulations. Have you addressed your torso at all? I’ve tried to make clear that attempting to manipulate the head prior to looking at the torso will not work. You should not experience anything like what you described from manipulating the torso.

[@Shveyy]

Hello sir! Please how to lift lowet eyelid without surgery ... I mean scleral part over showing under eyes

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

I have a series in my playlists that covers the neck and head. If you haven’t seen that already, there are some specific directions that can help bring tension in the the musculature and fascia of the face. You are going to need to work on the torso though to be able to support the head where it’s meant to be. When the head is out of place, issues like what you describe around the eyes can occur. The way out is to address not just the face and head but the whole body.

[@Shveyy]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 could you please share that video because I can't able to find the exact video

[@alexandrosstavrou4224]

I'm not sure I quite follow. What people who mew want is to remodel the bone structure of the maxilla forward and up in relation to the other bones, not just move the head around, but the bone structure stays the same. But in the video it sounds like all you achieved is a different head posture, without actually changing themaxilla bone in the desired direction

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

If what I’m saying about people’s heads being pulled back and down is correct, then we can think of that as equivalent to someone putting their palm on your face and pushing your face back. That will move your whole head back and ultimately down. If someone pushed on your face all the time, it would deform your skull, and your maxilla would get smushed back. If your maxilla and all the other bones of your skull are out of place, your muscles and fascia will be in a confused situation. Your fascia will be made limp. Your muscles will have all their points of leverage out of place, and so they will function erratically. Some muscles will get used to overworking in a certain direction, while never working in the opposite direction. Certain muscles will have to overwork while others do little at all. This reenforces the conditions of deformation in the skull. My contention is that if you get the entire head forward and up, and you get your torso into better condition so that it can support your head, you will be able to get your maxilla to where it’s actually supposed to be. Your muscles and fascia will then be able to function properly and will reenforce the correct position of the bones of the skull. Over time that will eradicate the deformation of the skull. The bone structure absolutely does not stay the same. I would say it’s probably impossible to maintain the same bone structure between the typical posture and the posture I’m advocating for, because the general forces that will act on the skull (whether that’s the musculature, the fascia, or gravity itself) will be interacting with the bones of the skull in a totally different manner.

[@alexandrosstavrou4224]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 ok, now I understand. Ty for clearing it up

[@gillik7801]

Yo bro should i start doing this before i get my teeth fixed with braces or a plak?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

There’s no reason to delay correcting your posture. If you’re following a good model and have good practices, it would only help you generally. Personally, as someone who had braces for many years when I was younger, I don’t think they’re typically a good idea. But I also understand why people just want their teeth to be straightened quickly. I’m not an expert on orthodontics, but I would suggest that anyone who definitely wants orthodontic intervention should seek out an alternative to braces: almost anything is better than traditional braces.

[@gillik7801]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 how about plaks, the ones u can see through

[@LS-gg7on]

does this help with height too technically?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Yes, lengthening the torso is a visible act that observably causes a small increase in height.

[@danielsalvador8232]

What do You think about glute dominance

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Idiosyncratic over use of certain muscles relative to other muscles can certainly happen, especially in those who lift weights, but generally I think the idea is too narrow to be particularly useful.

[@trick0451]

how to fix scleral show,due to sunken anddownward growth maxilla

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

The same ideas are going to apply. What I’m recommending here is not a specific fix for something, it’s just about getting the bones of the skull, neck, torso, and whole body into the correct geometry so that the fascia and muscles can work properly. Any issue like scleral show is typically going to be the result of poor posture causing parts of the body to be moved out of place. So as I say in the video, look at the torso first, as that will provide your head with the support it needs to stay in the correct relative position.

[@Adil_vib3s]

What apply ??? Tell me plz

[@osenhordarazao3615]

Great

[@bruceonchuru9577]

Your skeleton has excess internal rotation, you need to work on external rotation. That will bring your scapulae back and closer to your spine.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Bringing the scapulae closer to the spine will mean my shoulders and upper back are narrowing. Why would I want to narrow my upper back? I would say you want as wide of an upper back as is possible.

[@Jodie59]

How about in sleeping position?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

In sleeping the biggest issue is probably sleeping on your back in such a way that you ears are below your sternum. That will tend to cut off the airway and will encourage the habit of retracting the head.

[@SuperPulseadasArmwrestling]

What exercises do you recomend to get this good posture?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

I don’t recommend typical exercises because I don’t think this is a problem that is remedied by repetitive movements or strengthening exercises. The problem is not a lack of strength, it’s a lack of coordination. It’s as much a mental problem as it is physical. In my opinion, the only way to correct posture is with a conscious system of guidance and control. That means you control how you move your body by implementing concepts that are reasonable: that make sense. I do use various procedures for challenging your equilibrium, as that gives you an opportunity to practice implementing a conscious strategy for maintaining your good posture in response to a stimulus. But for those procedures to be useful, you need to have strategies for dealing with postural perturbation. It’s also worth considering that we will use all of our poor habits of movement to perform any traditional exercise. In fact, people tend to bend their back more than usual when confronted with having to lift a heavy weight or perform a strenuous exercise. So how could that improve your posture? An excellent procedure that I use is going up on the toes: essentially standing on the forefoot with the heels off the floor. But just going up on the toes is not how you succeed, the point is to maintain lengthening of your torso and to not allow your torso to go too far forward as you go up on your toes. That’s not easy to do. It’s not something that can be done with strength, it can only be done with the support of your fascia - which requires you to coordinate the movements needed to make the fascia of your body taut. That’s why I say it’s a problem of coordination. The skill that is lacking that causes poor posture is the skill of coordinating movements consciously.

[@EFTforeverything]

Can osteopathy help?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

I think osteopathy may have some benefits in terms of breaking up some of the adhesions and stuck parts of the fascia and musculature. But in my opinion, unless you change your underlying habits of movement, you will end up back where you started before long.

[@EFTforeverything]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 how do I change my underlying habits of movement?

[@goldenfeet2874]

i do agre with the tongue on the roof of the mouth, but not your entire tongue esspecialy the back third but the mid and front tongue. If you try lifting you back third iof the tongue and breath, you will notis that its imposible if you have an underdeveloped maxilla. I personaly have a some what developed maxilla and i find it easy to breath (not easier, but easy). I feel dryness when ever my back third is engade, which i daut is any good. i also agree with what you said about how we should't always be in a swolloing state(from an other vid of your). The problem with "MEWING" is that it's only seen as tonge on the roof, but its a combination of tonge postur, proper swolloing and eating hard food inorder to promote correct facial growth. The emphasis of the back third being slamed to the roof and negleting the mid and front, which i belive is the cause of the "V" shaped palate insted of the "U" shape one

[@mantapmantap6175]

so this posture will move the maxilla forward?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

It will move the maxilla forward and up. The only way to sustain the head and maxilla forward and up is to have the support of your torso and neck - which means you need your fascia taut and not slack. Without that support, the head and maxilla must come down in space.

[@t50-lk8qv]

It won't change the maxilla. It's stupid

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

@@t50-lk8qv It will obviously move where the maxilla is in space. Perhaps you mean that it will not change the position of the maxilla relative to the other bones of the skull. I addressed this in another comment here, but if I’m correct that people are pulling their head back and down, then you can also think of that like someone putting their hand on your face and pushing your head back. If you constantly pull your head back (which most people do), it’s like someone constantly pushing your face back. Over time, that will smush the skull and the maxilla will go back and down. To eradicate this deformation of the head you need to get the bones in the right relative positions so that the fascia and muscles can work the way they’re supposed to. That will never happen if your head is pulled completely out of place. However, if you correct your posture, and you get your head to be where it’s supposed to be, your fascia and muscles will apply forces to your bones that pull them away from deformation and towards their correct positions. So while there are some further adjustments that may need to be applied to the maxilla, simply getting your head to be in its correct spot will improve the position of the maxilla relative to the other bones of the skull. Whereas, if your head remains habitually pulled back and down, there’s nothing you can really do to get your fascia and muscles working properly, so you will be stuck with a deformed head.

[@Jose-antonio2]

Chin tucks cause me pain in my ears

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

I recommend that no one does chin tucks.

[@rasyidmuh_650]

I disagree. Your argument stands only upon the premise that the healthy body posture presented by Mike Mew is incorrect and yours is, until you can bring scientific evidence that Mike's posture is wrong and yours is right, there is no point in adopting your model since it can be potentially harmful to our body if we adopt it. Speaking from experience from 7 years of mewing. I've gained the most forward growth after adopting the correct body posture and chin tuck advised by Mike Mew. It has grown my maxilla forward literally: my cheekbones are more apparent and the whole upper teeth has shifted forward. Also, the chin tuck has encouraged my lower jaw to reposition forward naturally and adjust with my upper jaw. What mewing aims to achieve is different to what you preach in this video which is achieving an illusion of forward maxilla position by moving your entire head forward relative to the torso.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

What is the scientific evidence that convinced you that the posture that the Mews support is correct? I have many videos on my channel that explain why I think the model I support is better. I can’t include all that in every video, but a few things to consider. Where does the airway go? If you pull you head back, your pharynx will be moved back relative to the airway in the lower throat, essentially causing a kink in the airway. When you combine in lifting the tongue, you will be shutting the airway even more, since you will lift the larynx. Having the tongue and larynx lifted is what we do when swallowing (if you put your hand on your larynx and swallow, you will feel it go up), since we need our airway closed when swallowing (so food doesn’t go into the airway). It also opens the esophagus. We don’t want to be breathing in a way that opens the esophagus and partially closes and kinks the airway. Retracting the head will coincide with the upper torso going back in space, which will bend the torso, protrude the abdomen, and make the fascia of the body limp instead of taut as it should be. I don’t want you to get your head forward and up in order to move the maxilla, in my view, moving the head forward and up relative to the torso is essential to getting the fascia and muscles of the head, neck, torso, and entire body to function properly. The added bonus is that, when the fascia and muscles are working right, they will widen the palate and move the whole head, including the maxilla forward and up. When the head is forward and up, there is no kink in the airway, so breathing will no longer be impaired. But this is only worthwhile if the torso is lengthened at the same time. If you’ve adopted Mew’s advice on posture, I would guess that you have a hollow back and protruding abdomen. I obviously can’t see you, but you can take a picture of yourself from the side and see. Where is your abdomen? Is it out over your toes? Is your back hollow or full? You may very well have improved over your starting point by engaging your tongue and doing some exercises of the muscles of your face. But are you sure you’ve improved as much as you could? Are you sure your general body posture improved at all?

[@NektoNC]

Can you just show what you think is the ideal posture? Some example of a real person

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

At 4:16 - 4:28 I use an older and somewhat newer picture of me. It's not perfect, but it should give you an clear picture of what I'm saying is desirable.

[@NektoNC]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Well it looks strange. Thats why I asked you to show a really healthy posture

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

@@NektoNC You can watch this video if you'd like, it has some pictures of F.M. Alexander:kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWfaoH-dqNx5i8k The opening of this video shows Masoero in sitting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fX2Ve5l4dptjbbM It's going to look strange to you because you're used to seeing people with their head and shoulders retracted and their abdomens protruding. If you look at an image of someone you consider to have a really healthy posture, take note, is their midsection pushed forward? Is their back hollow? If you so, why? Is that really healthy?

[@waedi_]

Tuck your chin back so that the tongue is pressing forward into the maxilla, newtonian physics.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Are you going to keep your chin back? Because a correctly performed chin tuck is supposed to form a double chin. The point of the video is that you can lift the maxilla by getting the fascia to work properly - which requires the bones of the skull to be moved closer to where they’re supposed to be (forward and up). Pulling the chin back might crowd the mouth and cause the tongue to push on the maxilla, but it will not move the head forward and up. It’s also not sustainable, unless you want a double chin).

[@Hightiertrashcan]

Did your face change by doing this ​@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147

[@Artolink97]

What you are saying is very wrong. You are basically adapting your whole body to "fix" your problem of sleep apnea due to a recessed maxilla, basically trying to justify a forward head posture of the neck by adapting the rest of the body. This is very wrong and your posture looks unnatural. Even if you would do so just to get the maximum out of the muscles of your face to grow the maxilla forward in a shorter period of time, that posture is still incorrect and you would have to fix it later, but at that time it could have become a problem. Chin tucks in mewing are used for two reasons: 1) allowing the whole posterior tongue to go to the top of the mouth, and not just the tip 2) fix forward head posture, that is a wrong adaptation of the body due to a recessed face that causes apnea. This way, with these two forces combined, positioning your body right, you are forcing correct posture not allowing it to "relax" in that wrong one. Jutting your neck forward and adapting the rest of the body to that wrong posture like you are preaching, does not move the maxilla and fix the rest. Also, you cannot preach theories without any medical knowledge and research studies, you can cause damage to others.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

I can't explain the entirety of the model I use in every video, but a lot of the things you've mentioned have been addressed in other videos I've put out. I'll leave a couple links at the end of this comment if you want to go in depth on my arguments. I am presenting a model that is different from what you've seen before. You talk about forward head posture, but you really need to be clear on what you mean by that. It seems like you're focusing in on the head and neck, but from my view you must consider the torso as well. Is it possible for the head and neck to be out of place, but for the torso to not compensate? If not, then obviously the torso is relevant. It might even be that the head and neck are out of place because the torso is out of place--that is bent and crumpled. What you will see in every picture of someone with genuine "forward head posture" is that their upper sternum is back relative to their lower sternum: their ribcage is tilted back at the top and shoved forward at the lower end. This is why you'll see people with so-called forward head posture who have their lower sternum and lower ribs forward of their head (meaning their head is really not all that forward, their posture might be better described as "forward midsection posture"). You can't just leave the rest of the body out of your analysis. The posture I point to as good in this video shows a vertical sternum: that is something you will not see in someone with so called forward head posture. There is no relaxing into a slumped forward neck, the head must be forward and up, which can only be sustained by a full back. If you try to actually coordinate the movements needed to produce this posture, you'll see it's not easy at all, and is certainly not something you can relax into (though be sure not to cheat, the head must go up as it goes forward and the ribcage must not come down towards the pelvis) You ought to look at what you consider to be good posture. Why is the lower back bent? Why is the back hollow? What does that do to the thoracolumbar fascia? Why is the midsection out over the feet? Why is the ribcage tilted back just as it is in those with FHP? As for your argument on chin tucks, I find it odd that you want the tongue against the roof of the mouth. I would say you only want the tongue against the roof of the mouth when you're swallowing. When you're swallowing, your airway needs to be closed and your esophagus needs to be open. Why would you want to stay in swallowing mode when you're breathing? You want your airway open and your esophagus closed when you breathe. You also must understand that chin tucks, even according to those who advocate for them, do not put you in optimal posture. You're supposed to form a double chin when you do a chin tuck, and obviously no one wants to induce a permanent double chin. So when you say: "Even if you would do so just to get the maximum out of the muscles of your face to grow the maxilla forward in a shorter period of time, that posture is still incorrect and you would have to fix it later, but at that time it could have become a problem." that actually directly applies to chin tucks. The only difference being that obviously a chin tuck would move the whole face and maxilla back not forward. Do we want our maxilla to go back? What I advocate for is not to make an undesirable set of movements in order to build muscles. That's what I'm totally against. I want people to make the corrected concerted movements of the torso, neck, head, and entire body in order to get the fascia of the body working. I never recommend making wrong actions to build muscle. But that is what the chin tuck crowd supports. You should also consider the shape of the airway. If you pull your head backwards in space, what does that do to the airway? Where does the airway connect into the lungs? Where does it connect into the nasal and oral cavity? Sleep apnea and other breathing problems are largely caused by people closing their airway by retracting their head. Even people with so-called forward head posture are typically retracting their head relative to their lower sternum and their larynx - which kinks the airway and interferes with the breathing mechanism. In a hospital, someone with serious respiratory issues will have their head and upper back elevated to the point of their ear being in line with their sternum - that's because this mechanically opens the airway. Pulling your head back, as in a chin tuck or the standard model of good posture, causes the ear to be behind the sternum, not in line with it - restricting the airway. Lastly, you say what I advocate for will not move the maxilla, and that is obviously false. If you move where the head sits in space to get it both up and forward, you will move the maxilla in space forward and up. You can argue against that movement if you'd like, but I don't see how you can reasonably dispute that the maxilla will move. Once your skull and neck are in their correct position relative to the torso, the fascia and muscles in this area will function properly and will tend to pull the maxilla towards its correct spot. Whereas constantly pulling the head back (and ultimately down), which is what the FHP/chin-tuck crowd suggests, will make the fascia of the head, neck and torso limp, leading to a collapse of the structure of the skull. It's just like the torso itself, which can collapse and crumple as a result of the bony structures (the ribcage and pelvis) being habitually moved out of place. I understand that you've accepted the standard model, and so the fact that I'm saying something different means your first impression is naturally that what I'm saying must be wrong. But I invite you to actually look at my arguments and look at the arguments that support your side. Interrogate your side just as you interrogate mine. I'm always happy to answer questions. What I'm presenting is not my original research, I'm putting forward the ideas of Francois Delsarte, F.M Alexander, and Jeando Masoero. I've studied the issue for many years now, and in my view it's quite clear that their work and their models are much more accurate than anyone else's. kzbin.info/aero/PLS9hwTssXHJbjM3a4cjYLsTsn5FLElNJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnjRe5tnZ6-LqZo

[@momo777777777777777]

Completely wrong.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Feel free to explain why.