inFAMOUS 2: Evil Ending with Good Karma

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[@Zivalene]

Everyone asking me "How do I do this!?", you switch karma during the mission like I did in the video. If you don't understand, there is a link in the description to a video I made showing you exactly what I did.

[@Zivalene]

What kind of drugs you on?

[@Zivalene]

Sorry, who are you again? A poser?

[@Zivalene]

Dude, you're the one that needs to chill. I was joking because you're the 3rd "Cole MacGrath" commenting on my videos but the only one who has the name messed up. And you all make the same old joke.

[@diamondpandas9090]

Cole Macgrath Perry we miss you cole

[@timhaynes260]

U changed it by reviving that guy cause ur karma was low right

[@ghostofsparta757]

Hearing civilians begging you to stop when you are doing the Evil ending with Good Karma really hits you hard.

[@gsn7625]

In what part of the video?

[@gsn7625]

@Lyfis gr8 where it was??

[@bartbarnes9596]

Dang

[@derekmaullo2865]

They deserve it

[@UmrSamuels]

Hey, Timestamp(s) please

[@superlombax1561]

7:39 What a shame. After all that training to defeat the Beast, Cole dies to some random debris.

[@ruinedracooon]

Super Lombax R.I.P Cole - died by a piece of rubble in the end of the world

[@rusticzombe]

tokyo ghoul 2.0

[@adrianpc7389]

@@rusticzombe lol

[@minecraftpe657]

@@rusticzombe the 1st episode of Tokyo ghoul

[@koromationsproduction]

@@rusticzombe this is some of the funniest shit that shouldn't really make me laugh. thank you

[@Smiley0.1]

Killing Zeke with red lightning was bad enough, killing Zeke with blue lightning was soul destroying.

[@Jacob-hx7kk]

This makes me wish that Sucker Punch just let you pick either ending, regardless of Karmic state. It would have been an excellent way to undercut the binary moral system. No Karma gate, no color coded prompts. Just a very painful decision.

[@Rizzy-Bizzy20]

But if you do the good ending at infamous your hellfire rockets won’t really be effective against the beast

[@jamainegardner4193]

@@Rizzy-Bizzy20 use Alpha Rockets then.

[@Tywil714]

This was the only ending or choice in the infamous series that felt morally grey and not goody two shoes good or cartoon villian evil for no reason. Cole had a legit tough decision to make with the fates of two speiciesresting of his shoulders. If he uses the RFI to save humanity he and other conduits activated or not will die. If he destroys it he dooms humanity to potentially extinction, betrays his best friend who's stuck with him since the begining, but saves his kind. Either way a lot of people are going to die and it will be his fault

[@DeadGhost307]

@@jamainegardner4193 ye lol

[@sunsetman22]

I legit thought it was possible this entire time. since I only ever played with good karma, I always had this small inkling of "but what if I pressed the other shoulder button?". to see that you can't actually do it without being booted out of the mission is kinda sad. hell, I think the devs should've planned ahead for this and made a slightly different outcome or experience when you choose the opposite ending to your karma.

[@tylergeorge8902]

"Half as long..." "Twice as bright.." "I gotta try" "I know..." Damn InFAMOUS has a funny way of playing with your feelings

[@lcudelta6593]

"If you ever see me again, shoot first"

[@kacpernowak8088]

LCUDelta well, Zeke shoot first anyway

[@demonitization9370]

I hate the evlil ending. Yet I keep having to redo it because of accidental save overwrites

[@atk2009]

I remember when I figured out how to do this I was so happy. It annoys me so much that you can't freely choose the ending mission. BOTH have the concious decision to kill an insane amount of people so the others can live. Cole doesn't even mention doing the "evil" ending because he wants to save himself. Just that it guarantees some people will live. Sucker Punch should have let you make the choice freely and not label the missions good and evil, allowing you to first see the results of your actions and THEN find out if you're the hero/villian you think you are or not. How awesome would it have been to go full hero, destroy the RFI to guarantee saved lives, only to inadvertently become the very thing you swore to destroy?

[@Netherwolf6100]

This is why moral choices and alignments in games are bad. They're too linear and straightforward as good and evil are both arbitrary concepts that different from person to person

[@lightdx7008]

@@Netherwolf6100 I belive otherwise. I really love moral and alignements choices in games. And both infamous 2 endings were awesome and cry worthy. Still i have to agree with tkarenko that i would have loved to be able to pick the ending no matter your current alignement.

[@huskyland1259]

tkarenko I did not think taming nix’s pets was wrong and would always do it anyway

[@huskyland1259]

tkarenko even on a good run

[@texasgent4694]

tkarenko you are right Cole only considered helping John because he thought that it may be the best option and would guarantee that at least some of humanity would survive whereas the RFI was guaranteed to kill off the Conduits with no proof whatsoever that it would cure the plague in the end though Cole made the leap of faith and sacrificed himself, and it turned out to be the best outcome

[@superlombax1561]

Something else that's worth noting is that, when Cole decides to betray humanity, Nix takes the RFI and runs off, with Kuo chasing after her. However, Nix still had the RFI and still posed a significant threat to Cole and the Beast, and it's never really explained what happened between the two.

[@Zivalene]

Knowing Kuo, she probably just gave up and figured the RFI wouldn't be too much of a threat without Cole using it.

[@jojoguzman4794]

Carl Hart

[@superlombax1561]

jojo guzman

[@wizzyrasta4039]

Nix just doesn't like Kuo, especially in the story line, they don't, really get along and mainly because nix likes Cole and doesn't want Kuo too take him away... it's like A love hate thing... AGAIN YOU CAN TELL THROUGH THE STORY LINE IT HAPPENS ON WHAT TYPE OF KARMA YOU CHOOSE, wich is actually smart! for the game developers to do that! SuckerPunch I love your infamous games! okay don't try and move the subject... if you were talking why nix is pissed off with the beast... restart the video she clearly says. But if your confused well, think about the mission "The Beast draws near" the beast is in the swamp killing of the millta, and probably the swamp monsters. The Beast can feel Coles energy from A far... I'm not sure how this happens but I think this involves, something too do with DR.Wolfe and John helps with the Rays - sphere wich is quite interesting, and wich brings us back to infamous 1. John knew about the Rays - sphere but wanted too destroy it for the chaos it would create on normal civilians wich makes them sick wich is sad and terrifying... you destroyed it but something happens to John... but what was that meant to do? It feels like he did have A connection with DR.Wolfe he does but those are only recorded messages scattered around empire city, or new Marais, and also... Kuo! Me or yous may already know that Kuo already had A connection with DR.Wolfe... this is all interesting but the most interesting theory is about... KESSLER THE FUTURE COLE. okay that's all I have too say but it's still pretty interesting...

[@2diefor]

Like what Zivalene said, Cole is the missing link in activating the RFI, without him it becomes useless (or a weapon of some sort like what Nix uses during the fight.)

[@daytoonyt8530]

Who else cried when you had to kill Zeke?

[@thefoxxgamer1246]

me :(

[@thefoxxgamer1246]

when i had to shoot him with electricity i just let him shoot me

[@Thatguyneb610]

definitely

[@boxerchester0933]

DaytoonYT I hated myself

[@ahmadmourad8233]

DaytoonYT yep

[@bigpmp883]

This is NOT why Kessler killed your girlfriend in front of you young man!

[@Zivalene]

Or was it......? "Kessler wanted me strong, ruthless so that I could make impossible decisions without being tied down by emotions-all for the common good." Could go both ways.

[@CosmicMetalhead]

I mean I believe when your evil your stronger anyway

[@josef2739]

Kessler: "You were right trying to use it (the ray sphere) again. That's the kind of thinking that will help you face what's coming - maybe you're not a lost cause."

[@adolfogarzachaires394]

@@Zivalene saving a couple of millions instead of billions doesn't look so heroic to me in my opinion

[@Zivalene]

If the RFI didn't work, would failing to save anyone be more heroic?

[@heavenlyderpfowl1180]

Something interesting to me is that the comic cutscene shows him with his hero outfit, almost like it wasn't supposed to be tied to karma, (the red lightning is because of beast powers)

[@starwraith5659]

This game and Infamous 1 seriously need a remaster. I'm sure anyone and everyone can agree.

[@strange_perplexed_enigma9052]

Also give us options to play good or evil missions, be free to do whatever mission we want and choose the ending without labels

[@MyNegroAcademia]

“Relax. My powers will amplify yours” gives me chills every time

[@codyd13]

"Now, I stand at it's center... I have become the Beast." That's the one for me.

[@Saltboi1823]

"Cole, where are you? Get back here!" That was supposed to sound menacing/evil, but it honestly just sounded like John was a tired dad or something.

[@enjoyer2227]

To this day... I still play this game. It will never die.

[@rlharveson]

Same here

[@sats8959]

Same here

[@lagbuster4206]

Yup

[@thatcatperson3801]

Yes

[@en1g1rl]

same

[@hollowkiller1011]

the next infamous game should be this plot right here

[@Zivalene]

+Bob DaFrog Probably won't get an official one, but I am working on a fan fiction of exactly that.

[@hollowkiller1011]

I don't know it's been three years since the last one and they have a prefect plot waiting for them one can hope.

[@Zivalene]

+Bob DaFrog They said they won't bring Cole back and if it was going to be an inFAMOUS game we would have known about it by now. The rumor is that it's a brand new IP next.

[@wolfman100hits]

Zivalene you think they'll announce their new IP this e3?

[@Zivalene]

+Drake Jones Been three years and we know it's playable on some level. Won't say 'most likely' but 'probably'.

[@13superjedi]

After reading the fanfiction you made for good cole with the evil ending, watching this is like watching a movie adaptation of the scene where he fights Nix because now I know about all the details of the fight you included in the fanfiction :3 it's really cool

[@SoI_Badguy]

Woah, can I get a link to that? You can't leave me hanging like that!

[@13superjedi]

@@SoI_Badguy m.fanfiction.net/s/12397216/1/inFAMOUS-Legacy-of-the-Beast Hope this works 👍

[@quicksilver5789]

Even if you enjoyed playing the evil side of infamous, THIS ending really pulls the heart strings, and makes you reflect your actions in the game. R.I.P, zeke.

[@caesarthemonkey2488]

I think this should've been the canon ending, Cole doing the evil ending with maximum good karma.

[@S.b7793]

Freddy Spaghetti but he didn't have good karma, he had evil karma of course he will do the bad ending. and stop being a clickbaiter

[@Zivalene]

+Bo7si -KsA Two things: The game isn't as black and white as you think it is; both endings are morally neutral and equally "evil" or risky. And this is not clickbait; I'm not putting all caps in the title or exclamation points and I do have good karma during the mission. You may want to watch the video before commenting. Did the like/dislike ratio give you a hint at all?

[@S.b7793]

Zivalene when the cutscene ended at 4:55, the game shows that your karma is thug. that was the first thing I checked. But I can see that you have good karma. How is that even possible? please let me know because I'm just new in the game and I'm just trying to get all trophies. sorry for the misunderstanding.

[@Zivalene]

No problem, a lot of people give me the same comment and it gets a little tiring to read. It's simple to do, just a little time consuming depending on what your karma state is by the end of the game. Just try to keep your karma as neutral as possible, then spend some time before the ending doing deeds that would reverse your karma. Save often because once you change to the opposite side of the spectrum, you will re-load your save and ensure that you are within one action of switching your karma. Once I did all that, I started the missions as Evil (since you can't start he mission as Good), then healed the first cop I was able to and I switched to Good during the mission. If this confuses you, I have a video explaining and demonstrating the process. You can do this on both endings if you want to, just change your karma appropriately. Good luck platinuming the game, I was able to do it within 3 days of getting the game and it's not very difficult to do.

[@faresalsayed9005]

Bo7si -KsA this is why you should ask people before essentially calling them pricks because you really just played yourself

[@Plamkton]

i really wish suckerpunch would make an infamous game where you did the ending where cole lives and you have 2 seperate stories

[@retr0420]

Complete inFamous 2 in evil then cole lives smh

[@Zivalene]

He means a sequel to the evil ending instead of just Second Son.

[@S0ULSTICE777]

Zivalene isnt second son the evil ending if you think about if

[@S0ULSTICE777]

Zivalene I mean look at it like this, if all the conduits died including the dormant ones than there’s no way for the gene to be passed on , if you do the evil ending the conduits live to pass on the trait so technically by doing that infamous second son would need the evil ending to exist because it’s 7years after this

[@Zivalene]

If it was the Evil Ending, all the humans would be dead and there would be many many more Conduits.

[@W0LFB3AT5]

Killing Zeke was heart wrenching for me. I felt like crying... 😞

[@demonitization9370]

I do cry. Every time my save corrupts for the evil ending I have to do it again.

[@eduardojara6955]

@@demonitization9370 what could have been worse, is that originally Cole was supposed to become the beast, this ending was supposed to be the cannon ending. There was a video called " Cole Macrgath character study " And the video points it out

[@RealLeel]

17:49 This dude cole is a straight savage

[@mattovo5004]

Why don't they just say that second son was where the good ending was used and make another where the bad was so we'd get a sequel to the good and bad ending, and then they can decide on the next game or do it again.

[@Zivalene]

Because money and executives.

[@super.hero.landing]

It makes me wonder what that game would be about then, and how would the karma system work? Sure you might be able to play as Cole but wouldn't it defeat the purpose of having a good karma system if he went full evil and became the Beast before?

[@ownedmaxer607]

@@super.hero.landing I doesn't have to be cole, could be a conduit human sympathiser.

[@rovernvercet]

Or better yet how could conduits be there if the good ending explained that all conduits died?? What do some people have the conduit powers when the raysphere fired off killing the old ones and new ones that have been infected with the plaque now a conduit?

[@deathripperfromhell7977]

@@ownedmaxer607 YES COLE

[@SaiyanGamer95]

I heard that Nate Fox, the director of the Infamous series, planned on the Evil Ending being canon. I imagine this would be how things go; Cole having Good Karma, but picks the evil ending. He expected people to want to keep Cole alive rather than sacrifice himself, but according to the player data, an overwhelming majority picked the Good Ending.

[@GeneralSouthParkFan]

Interesting detail I noticed while replicating this strat while also grinding the Rebels to get to Hero: Cole retains his scar characteristic on his left cheek even when maxing out good karma, despite the inverse also being applicable as seen in evil karma/good ending (likely because the good ending was designed around having Evil Cole's model specifically) I'd try showing off such footage, but the capture of the RPCS3 fucked up & it only recorded the audio by & large, beyond also taking several grueling hours of killing the rebels over and over to get to Hero in the mission.

[@kevinescobar370]

Zeke: Cole don’t let the humans die to save the conduits! Also zeke: Cole kill the conduits so the humans will live!

[@July-gj1st]

Rewatching this now, having replayed both games (1 and 2) this is basically what Kessler wanted you to understand when he makes you choose between the doctors and Trish. It's the exact same decision but on a much much larger scale. In the end, Kessler wanted you to go the utilitarian way, more lives vs less lives, in the good ending you basically choose the doctors again.

[@animeman8203]

@@July-gj1st Here's the thing though, sometimes more is less and less is more. With Humanity giving way to Conduits Cole is saving those who he knows can be saved and Humanity can come back stronger and more knowledgeable than ever with everyone having a superpower. Cole when he was weaker was easily worth hundreds of soldiers within one person. Multiply that by just 1000 and you get an army of just 1000, yet worth easily into the hundreds of thousands.

[@epsilonlivs732]

Tbh, the evil ending in Infamous 2 is better than the good ending. Not because it looks better but because it fits better. There was no proof the RFI would cure the plague and Zeke shouldn't be upset that Cole wants to help John. He's upset because he doesn't wanna die but neither does Cole. Not to mention that Zeke betrayed Cole in the first Infamous so think of it as poetic justice

[@ryanhowe5595]

I honestly find it jarring that this ending is labeled as the bad karma ending considering it being logical while everything else with Nix on the bad karma path is completely illogical

[@SoI_Badguy]

They should've left both options as grey. There was no good choice.

[@InhabitantOfOddworld]

@@SoI_Badguy The "good/bad" labels in these games weakens the point of choosing They'd be better off leaving all the choices grey and letting the outcomes speak for themselves

[@deathripperfromhell7977]

Good ending Cole dies bad ending cole becomes evil just leave it grey

[@Codex951]

Imagine if the 'evil' ending was canon. Have InFamous 3 or Second Son as a war between humans and conduits.

[@romerogamezjorgeluis4218]

@@Codex951 And the Evil ending was going to be canon And in the third game not only would make sense that conduits still exists, but actually would benefit Delsin if he is still created, practically he would be the difference in the war and show the humans that not all conduits are with Cole, because humans would probably make concentration camps for the captured conduits Or if we take the bad path, Delsin ends up joining Cole or even dethrone him from his spot as the leader of the conduits and beat the humans in the war

[@thatoneguyyouknow9737]

It’s funny because, at least in my opinion, good cole is more likely to pick this ending than bad cole. I say this because at the end of the day, it’s really an argument of a possibility of this miracle device killing everybody who could survive the plague, or a guaranteed way of saving some portion of humanity using the Beast’s methods. Bad cole, at the end of the first game, is all about strength. He’s not gonna go out of his way to save anyone unless it’s in his best interests, and he has enough of an ego to not let go of the beat down he got from the beast at the beginning of the game. Good cole however would hesitate a bit in choosing, gamble on saving millions, or guarantee a few thousand? The only reason bad cole would pick this ending is because he’d get to live, but he’s depicted as a sort of conduit messiah here rather than an evil powerhouse.

[@crowfather3838]

Yo, I don't know if the voice actor for Cole in this game does very much of that work but his yell was so damn emotional. Well done in my opinion. Not over done, but definitely filled with the remorse of killing a friend and keeping your resolve in the mission that damns you. I mean, either way Cole was damned. In my honest opinion there was no good ending to this game. Just genocide or genocide. The only difference was if he had to live with the outcome or not. Fantastic story.

[@lukejac0562]

I just learned that the evil ending was supposed to be Canon it would've made Coles story so much more interesting

[@L.2.L]

And would’ve made Second Son make sense

[@alduintheanti-dragonborn]

And instead they decided to make a sequel to the ending that should've stayed just that, an ending, nothing more than that, as much as I liked said ending.

[@Mumu0451]

“I don’t call you brother because I like the way it sounds”

[@serzel9134]

I love the evil ending. As its intent isn't based off evil actions, just logical ones. I also love it for the end, when John says he can't do this anymore and Cole says "What? after all this?" almost like he regrets killing zeke and destroying the RFI. Also I dunno if its intended, but the end cut scene Cole no longer has the AMP on his back, is this supposed to represent killing zeke and removing anything to remind him of zeke? Or he just dropped his AMP into a pool and zeke couldn't get it back out cause he's desd

[@Zivalene]

You can see the Amp in the last cutscene. Cole leaves it in some rubble as a memorial or grave marker.

[@serzel9134]

@@Zivalene Ah ok, thanks!

[@personman1148]

I noticed in the cutscene he's also wearing his hero outfit.

[@MarshallXeno]

This makes Zeke's death even sadder.

[@obinwakanaobi4338]

This is honestly just the canon outcome

[@eduardojara6955]

It was, but they decided it wasn't. infamous1 has the image of cole in a Jesus pose and with the mouth of the beast behind him. So this was supposed to symbolize that Cole would become the beast, because in this ending you see the same pose.

[@TheUltimateE]

That final 'half as long, twice as bright'💔

[@aileencasey2083]

The REAL hero ending

[@ryanhowe5595]

I hope in the future Nate Fox would go hack and think "Wait a minute, nobody voted for what would happen next, WHAT WAS I THINKING?!" And makes the game that he originally planned and says in an interview "We don't usually don't go back to previous IP's, but we can fix this, let's never make this mistake EVER again"

[@leelee8718]

I'm gonna do this cause when you're fully evil Cole look like a sith lord

[@Zivalene]

You're going to be spending a lot of hours killing civilians during the final mission, then. lol

[@wizzyrasta4039]

young breezy yeah reeeeeeeeealy long... not worth it I killed them for fun, or I just wanted to become infamous for no aparent reason... at least I can finish the dame game in one day with every side mission and story... I hate most of them side missions but it's just too 100 percent the dame game... too sad I completely finished second, ehh... yeah I don't care I say kill them civilians... and no he just looks red, vainy, ripped apart, looks really like A high white and A guy with A rusted amp... yeah

[@anonymouscontributor1520]

Dang. Zeke is without doubt the hardest boss in the whole game, yet you made it look easy!

[@mathewlombardo3876]

I PUT MY CONTROLLER DOWN AND LEFT THE HOUSE WHEN I HAD TO KILL ZEKE I WAS NOT OKAY

[@TheBunnygirl20]

Lol

[@KHFanXIII-ULRoxasXIII]

it is like of do all the good karma and do a Evil Ending It will be like a Anti Hero Ending. but evil karma and do the Hero Ending It will be like a Anti Villain Ending

[@redviper57]

also I wouldn't mind if this became a comic book series

[@Zivalene]

+redviper57 This IS a comic book series. Look up 'inFMAMOUS: Post Blast" and 'inFAMOUS'. You're welcome and enjoy.

[@orelyosif5852]

The fact that it even works is phenomenal

[@demonitization9370]

Half as long. Twice as bright. Rest in peace brother.

[@chrishansen9102]

when i first heard of second son i thought it was gonna be a conduit rebelled against Cole and kills him in the end of the game

[@eggsandbacon345]

the would have been really cool, maybe they could make a version a o second son when it's begins after cole becomes evil

[@grenha8]

Chris Hansen that would be stupid because cole in the end of this game became the strongest conduit in the world, literally no one would be able to kill him, not even Kratos 😂

[@eduardojara6955]

@@grenha8 I mean delson might have stood a chance, ( not how he is in his own game), but if he touched Cole in Beast form (if possible) he would get a hell of a lot of power, adding to that is if he convinced other conduits to lend him there power he would stand a chance. He would have to also train a lot to be ready for a fight with Cole. But if you took Delson as he is now, not a chance

[@grenha8]

Eduardo Jara If delsin touch cool in beast form he would die, watch what happen to cole in evil ending. And delsin wouldn’t have a chance to take 5 foots in front of cole

[@eduardojara6955]

@@grenha8 sneaking up on him, without Cole knowing who he is? However like I said not the Delson we have but a different type if Delson made so he could fight Cole. If Delson touched Cole in "Beast form" definitely not, no chance in winning. But there are other possibilities.

[@harambeliveson4038]

Since Cole used RFI I think he killed all the conduits then in infamous second son there were multiple conduit or bio terrorist then how does that work

[@harambeliveson4038]

On the good ending I mean

[@Zivalene]

Harambe Lives On The answer is a horrible urge to make a sequel out of a game that didn't need one to make more money. But if you want a half-baked answer from the plot, Second Son basically says Zeke and Cole were mistaken and that the RFI only killed about 90℅ of the world's Conduit population based on relative distance to the RFI (Even though there were clearly people dying in India). The military killed another several hundred, leaving only about 500 Conduits left during Second Son. Somewhere they mention that some Conduits were simply immune to the RFI and there was also a conspiracy that the DUP was somehow reintroducing the Conduit gene to stay in power. Basically, Sucker Punch couldn't keep their story straight after ending their franchise.

[@abaddon5759]

They based it of which ending was made the most most people chose the good ending so they continued second son based on the good ending

[@Zivalene]

+Omega Wolf Yup, based on trophy data but not actual preference. They originally shipped the game with Evil as the canon ending and only changed it months afterwarrds. Sucker Punch has sense expressed a bit of remorse for not going with their original plan.

[@nathan24-_-2]

Harambe Lives On it was years after so probably because some people had a better resistance (what's the scientific term for it?)to the RFI than others so they probably lived on carrying conduit symptoms

[@connorlennox1485]

Legit cried my eyes out the first time I saw that you have to kill zeke in the bad ending

[@voltaalta1307]

This "Good Karma Beast Ending" was going to be what the canon ending was but due to people picking good majority it was changed when Second Son was made

[@amitr24242]

If they would make a game that takes place after the evil ending, i think the best option for the karma system would have worked as a "redemption system" where cole is evil and because of some plot event he would have the option to redeme himself for the sake of humanity, or stay evil and have his fun...it could be a good game i think... fuck suker punch if in the future they dont make this and call it "infamous" 3(because its the evil karma Sequel and the final evil karma level is "infamous" and it wont ruin second son that is in a diffrent timeline after all). Sorry for writing too much😂😂😂😂

[@Zivalene]

Please, write as much as you need.

[@amitr24242]

@@Zivalene ok thanks lol. i must say i love your videos and i came back to those amazing games again because of those. I missed this franchise and its nice to see that its still relevant.👏👏

[@localdude2979]

I feel like "eViL"/inFamous ending was kinda heroic for the conduits who Cole activated and the devs decided to gave him the same white t-shirt Hero Cole wears at the good ending 7:40 Yeah and I never liked when that happend... I think debris/cars falling on Cole killing him must be a bug

[@roguezero3427]

In my opinion infamous2 Is what of the few games I would dare call perfect

[@dead_shot_1498]

24:40 attack on Titan confirmed

[@Zivalene]

I have never seen the show. I don't get it. lol

[@colehughes5651]

You can look up images of a monster called the "colossal titan" from the show. It usually depicts this massive humanoid figure looming over a giant wall, and the Beast during this scene looks reminiscent of that

[@Zivalene]

Ohhhhhh.

[@StreetTaco]

When you realize this was intended to be canon

[@kellenvanberkum3119]

24:13 Cole Destroys Ray Sphere which was the good choice

[@eddieyacobozzi6300]

I've played this game for years. I actually played it before I played the first, and after thinking about it, I really think the evil ending is much better than it's heroic counterpart. Partly because Nix isn't such a pushover like Kuo and the Beast, but also because it's so much more emotionally profound. At the end, even after choosing to side with the Beast and killing Zeke, the game shows how Cole really cared about him, by kneeling down in front of his body and looking at the ground in a respectful kind of way. It also let's people know that somewhere inside Cole is still a tiny bit of good, but it really just dies when he smashes the RFI. I also think this ending couldve made second son waaaaay better, and there was a lot of potential for it to build off of as well. The good side could have a story where Delsin powers up to try and take down Cole, and the evil side where delsin could side with cole to accomplish something else, or defeat him and take control over the conduits. Theres so much they couldve done with this and its kinda painful knowing that there probably wont be anything to come of it. Sry for the long rant. Just had a lot of time to think about this.😅

[@sebas8225]

the true canon ending

[@asmodeus235]

I’ve been thinking about this game a lot. I read your Legacy of the Beast. Pretty good. A lot of game designers seem to agree that the best part about morality in video games is the grey; not the black and white, good and evil actions. I would have four moral states. Weakness, kindness, strength & brutality. You can think about them as different points along the infamous scale in the aforementioned order. I would reinvent the karmic system so that the goal isn’t to become a hero or a villain. There is just some awful threat. The protagonist plans to take it down. And they balance their karmic meter as they do so. Two characters would represent the karmic extremes and both might seem appealing on the surface but are pretty deeply flawed upon further inspection. It would really be a world of choosing between the lesser of two evils. Being ‘nice’ or ‘good’ will often get you kicked in the teeth, and if you were persistent about it, you wouldn’t be strong enough to take on the antagonist. Likewise, choosing power over all else would make you similar to Infamous 1 evil cole. You would just end up replacing the antagonist. It would be a balancing act. I think that would be a good way to make a good infamous sequel.

[@robertshelley4223]

Haha got a few points here. I wish I knew this was possible! I had to fight nix with just base powers back bc I went all the way through with good karma until the final mission. Also that’s the one aspect of the game I wish was changed bc you don’t learn johns full plan until later in the game and to pick the evil ending you have to have bad karma (vice versa for good karma) I love the karma system I just wish that the ending you choose didn’t have to be reflective of your karma choice. They could’ve even thrown in some comments from other side characters in the game about your choice to change sides in the end. Also killing Zeke was heartbreaking not just bc of him being coles best friend but also with how little fight he put up. It be different if he had a big boss fight and he shot rockets and junk but Cole basically just executed his best friend. Last thing, love the channel and all the great content!

[@gangatalishis]

I didn't like zeek to begin with so this was my good ending.

[@GilesJ325]

gangstalishis I still have a grudge from the first game

[@diogitalk]

Killing Zeke was the saddest thing I've ever done, I legit cried my eyes out

[@cronchulus5489]

Honestly it’s interesting because despite all the good Cole did he was human, thinking at the end everything would turn out right but when he found out he was going to die his fear came out on top and like I think many of us would have he chose to live because he wanted to even if the guy who calls him brother would have died. No one gave a shit about Cole so Cole chose not to care about anyone else, tried to turn a new leaf but when it finally came to pass he wasn’t up to it and did what he always did

[@Kinsley_XD]

I wish evil Cole didn't look like a stupid vampire this just looks better

[@左氏]

One of the huge disappointment in this game is they make last mission choice only follow karma. It make sense the if Good Cole make same choice as Koe did. Bad Cole would also wanna kill beast no matter the cost like Nix did. The Good ending make Cole look like saint but he just killed over thousand peoples, and if the plague still go on. What he did is just wipe last hope of humanity Sucker Punch kinda suck at making hero hard decisions scene.

[@foxtrotgames9154]

Damn killing zeke with good karma his hard

[@TheRulerOfEnd]

Humanity is so afraid of change that they would turn on anyone that shows signs of being different. It sickens me that humanity wants change but is afraid of everyone that is different.

[@jayhenry6327]

I cried at the bit you kill zeke

[@atreyuhuang4791]

Rip Zeke and Nix AND THE BEAST😿

[@HotPinkShade]

I wish there was a release of a sequel after the evil ending instead of JUST the good one

[@wizzyrasta4039]

"Half as long, twice as bright" dame I get sad at that bit...

[@Nayops23]

5:45 Yup that pretty much did the trick alright

[@ZevianAlter]

A hard choice if Zeke was a conduit I would of just chose evil ending in a heart beat.

[@1980Shadowwolf]

I remember my platinum playthrough when i cared about trophies. I played evil side and used the towers connected to the church to snipe Nix. Wasnt a honorable fight but using the towers to shield her attacks on hard made it more doable lol.

[@jqyhlmnp]

I wish this was the ending, then Delson would have had to fought against Kuo and eventually Cole

[@eduardojara6955]

This was supposed to be the original cannon ending, but reasons it wasn't. But I like the idea, here are some points to make it good. - Have it so Cole has a personal relationship with Delson, example would be Delson brother being killed by Cole. - Have it so Delson touched Cole to have his powers, but is not as skilled as Cole or have a mental barrier that stops him from using it all. - Also a nice call back to Kesler is mentioned, like him talking Delson and showing his sadness for Cole becoming evil and becoming the beast. -Finally also have it that when he does beat Cole, he has a struggle, thinking if he should become the next beast or try something else These are my points.

[@grandgojira8182]

This might sound really dumb but when I got to zeke I literally sat there for like 5 or 10 minutes thinking to myself if I really wanted to go through with killing him this was the first game where I hesitated to finish the evil path questioning if everything I had done up to that point was worth it and no lie I picked up my controller and said “I’m sorry” and killed zeke and that has never happened to me while playing a video game before

[@texasgent4694]

You know it would be badass if you could do the Evil Karma ending at the Hero Rank, and the Good Karma ending at the Infamous Rank but I get that it would be way too much of a hassle though

[@seniorpoopane5754]

Good but not willing to die.

[@alejandrogarcia-du8gy]

No se por que pero el final de karma malo me parece más natural, no las acciones de karma malo cometidas por Cole alrededor de el juego, solo la última es la que siento que incluso teniendo karma bueno se sentiría como algo lógico que el haría en esa situación

[@Nayops23]

22:16 Damn.

[@docriley79]

so your karma level has no effect on the ending, you just have to pick the good or bad ending?

[@Zivalene]

If you are Good, you must pick the good ending. If you are Evil, you must pick the Evil ending. The only way to switch this is to become the opposite karma during the mission. Because Sucker Punch didn't take this exploit into account while making the game, there is no difference in plot for doing it-- just aesthetic and slight power differences.

[@Zivalene]

+dwaine riley Yes, it does. If you are good, you have to pick the good ending. If you are evil, you have to pick the evil ending. I had to switch my karma in the middle of the mission, as you saw, to be able to do this.

[@docriley79]

Zivalene ok. cause i was thinking alot has changed since i played the first infamous.

[@Zivalene]

Quite a lot, really.

[@yugox2921]

This is how cole changes to evil cause he had no choice

[@cbyerly3107]

For those of you who don’t know, this ending was originally planned to be canon, and they ended up having a story written for InFamous 3 using the bad ending as the canon ending. But the creators didn’t follow through because of the PlayStation trophies showing that more people played the good ending.

[@SuperDdall]

Evil ending would be 100 times better if it just didn't have the main antagonist, who has tanked a nuke to the face at this point, go "Gosh, I just don't even know, Cole. I don't even." and then proceed to literally be written out of the plot. Zeke's sacrifice, while futile, deserved better follow-up IMO.

[@lukegilbert4398]

what does she mean by babies

[@Zivalene]

She means it in an affectionate way. Not to say that they are literally her children, more like they are her family. It's the same way one would call their pets their babies.

[@lukegilbert4398]

oh thanks for telling me

[@jayy5987]

Luke Gilbert, she means her monsters. There like babies to her

[@unkownneon7225]

Luke Gilbert dildos

[@unkownneon7225]

Cole Macgrath Perry yup she bought dildos and John destroyed them

[@trevincarroll5978]

I could never kill Zeke or Nix. Not after everything that happened in the game

[@JabamiLain]

I can. It sucks, it's a fact. But I refuse to destroy the Conduits, the humans next stage. Besides, there are still enemies to fight. I'm not drained yet. I can still fight for the cause. I can still reshape the world.

[@charliesnark6535]

Since I just replayed this game recently (and the first time I played it I was too young to really care or understand) I genuinely was like, well the bad ending kinda makes more sense logically, but I'm also struggling with the act that if the evil ending did end of becoming canon, would Cole being evil be the canon "playthrough" as well, because the evil playthrough really isn't, well, good, in the literal sense and I just feel like it wouldn't make sense to be canon. But if it was canon where Cole played good but ended with the "Evil" choice, I could see that.

[@superlombax1561]

9:53 But if the RFI beam was able to stun the Beast at that level, shouldn’t it have done worse to Cole when he got hit by it?

[@lightdx7008]

What a wonderful game this was. I loved and cursed Sucker punch for this ending choice. Both were really good and conflicted me a lot. I played as the good hero, because i liked it the most (and the waifu too), but i wanted the evil karma ending better sadly i could only pick the karma i had, thought i knew i could change karma if i spend a good while. Is sad that the waifus changed side in the ending (I liked more the ice girl) Neverless both endings made my want to cry for diferent reasons. This one for Zeke.

[@ryanhowe6543]

If only Nate Fox didn't give the slightest shit about trophy data...

[@Bigedub101]

The music 20:00 min. Epic...

[@spongebobsquarepants1657]

Cole kill his own best friend

[@BrownCameraman29]

Whenever cole with RFI he power increase i meant he dage and everything

[@TheSmoke510]

To be so honest I always held that grudge against zeke when he backstab me with Kessler (future me) so on infamous 2 I've vowed to myself get him killed

[@splash_067]

best ending tbh

[@tvgameskiller5286]

What is the name of the soundtrack at the beginning?!

[@urgay7954]

I did the evil ending once. And hated it. Now I only do the good ending. Never ever ever again!

[@michelleuribe6421]

Fines de infamous en good karma

[@zillomanstrum]

Quick question what happens if you’re neutral when you start the mission. Does the game automatically pick a side for you?

[@Zivalene]

You can't be neutral past the opening mission. You are either good or evil for the main 40 missions.

[@zillomanstrum]

Zivalene ah thank you

[@michellehacker4120]

Being the infamous can that you are with a channel and fanfiction revolving around infamous have you used the psnow service on ps4 and if so is it good, bad and is it true to the original control vise.

[@Zivalene]

It's exactly like playing the actual game except with worse framerate, more latency, lag and a high possibility of disconnecting from the server.

[@michellehacker4120]

@@Zivalene ok that's what I was expecting thanks!

[@susie5251]

Half as long...Twice as bright....