NEW update strategy? Linux Mint 22 Beta - What's New?

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[@Whatupdays]

Glad to see you back after your six-month hiatus.

[@mikeunt44]

Yeah this guy doesn't even know what version he claimed to be on. He is probably a Windows user and just decided to comeback to make some cash.

[@slamislife74]

LINUX MINT MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@anonymous_opinions1924]

FUCK YEAH

[@_memetastic_]

WTF IS CO-PILOT 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[@fabricio4794]

Men of culture we arw here again

[@Ewie7]

Realy? I could not see or hear it. I'm color blind

[@Krim_playz]

LINUX MINT RAHHHH 🦅🦅 🔥🔥🔥🔥 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@Lana_Warwick]

Hi, new to linux (mint) yesterday after 40+ years windows. Nice to hear an Aussie voice explaining this stuff. 👍

[@CrossHusky]

I love the aproach you have towards linux in general, very sane, very mature and the way you present everything is very natural. I can't stand most of the linux youtubers but you are on another level. Hope you get more recognition :)

[@BrodieRobertson]

The legend has returned

[@malitaus5672]

Good video, thanks mate (from Libya). I've used Mint for years on and off. I now use it at work (my organisation uses windows but I use the web apps or other clients to allow me to connect). I stayed using windows again this week and it drove me crazy with frustration.

[@MikeWood]

That is a big leap for the kernel. I run an older machine with Mint Cinnamon, but even my LMDE 6 machine's Kernel is only 6.1.0-22 as of the update I did today. Nice initial review of Mint 22. 👍 Also, Welcome back.

[@althomas6045]

this is a brilliant linux channel. hay and thanks from colorado.

[@CNich90]

Always look forward to your videos man, appreciate the content!

[@propjoe1060]

Always nice to see new content from this channel.

[@user-jy4oi2mu1s]

Hey nice to see you back 😅 will be watching out for your valued content on the channel which I really enjoy so please don't drift off like many other channels have done on ere 👍

[@wyldwulf06]

Nice to see that you're still at it, IG. You, Spatry, and one other Arch/Manjaro guy (forgot his name lol) influenced me to switch to Linux in 2014ish. It has been a decade now and I think you're the only one that's still active. Keep it up!

[@nico1337]

5:04 that pronunciation of cache :D

[@morandy13]

sounds cool from now on i will be pronouncing it as caché :D

[@avidwriter2882]

That's actually the correct way to pronounce it.

[@mkrleza]

I grew up in the 80es, during the DOS days. It's actually the proper way to pronounce it...

[@pekempy2]

@@marco31 That is correct for Plymouth

[@mkrleza]

@@marco31 What would the other way be?

[@ContantContact]

@infinitleygalactic You have used LM jus a month or two more than I have. I switched 5 laptops to LM and have been quite happy with it, after I found all the software and utilities I needed. And the replacements were actually improvements over what I used on windows.

[@alexb8969]

Yay for a Cinnamon / Plasma comparison !

[@michaell.8748]

I'm happy to see you back

[@erixIsOffline]

I am so glab and lucky that the one distro that from the longest time even before i got interested in linux itself becoming so good especialy the moment i wanna switch to it, nice. Thanks for so clean and informative video man.

[@CNich90]

Would definitely be interested in a comparison video with plasma

[@aintworking1]

I enjoy your videos, and have learned a lot from them. Would like some advice if I may. I have a 2021 Dell Vostro 3500, Core i-7 1165-g7, 16 gb ram(max). I am not big on using the terminal, most of my daily activities involve using the graphical interface and I cannot remember how to effectively use the terminal. Wanted to run Linux Mint 21.2, which I installed on a new ssd. Worked okay until I started trying to connect with my router USB drive. I spent 1and1/2 days trying to use terminal to connect. Finally installed Files(nautilas) and connected with it graphically. Everything seemed to be working fine, until the next day, my internet speed( Spectrum) upload dropped from 9.7mbps to .6 mbps. The only way I could get it back was to revert back to windows(swapping ssd) and reset various network settings, updated the drivers. Then I went back to Mint, worked okay for a few days, then I wanted to connect up to Dropbox, and I run into same problem with the internet speed. My questions is: Is there another distro of Linux that would work better? and Is this an issue with my laptop?

[@Winnetou17]

What do you mean your router USB drive ? As in you have a USB drive directly connected to your router, like a barebones NAS ? A bit weird that, from what you say, the router settings get changed, not just how you connect to it. Anyway, your problem sounds very specific, so if you don't have the luck over here on YT, you should ask for help on a forum or in a chatroom, like that Matrix one.

[@aintworking1]

@@Winnetou17 Thanks for the response. I will give that a try.

[@balsalmalberto8086]

The updates are sane. The move to use newer kernel is a good move, better gaming and hardware support. I had to install mint edge to get my wifi card working.

[@deultima]

I noticed Adwaita was removed from the theming options when I was playing with the live boot last night.That sucks since I like to use it.

[@oce1616]

still missing the green color of LM 😢

[@doomnationalist]

Me too, but you can atleast add it back in the theme settings

[@oce1616]

@@doomnationalist oh yes I know that! I'm just sade it's not the default anymore...

[@robertbodnar8745]

ohh!!! Desktop Shotcuts for files and folders!!! Huraaaay!

[@YourHuggyFriendo]

The thumbnail looks like "peta" instead of beta because of the hand.

[@some1lambda]

yes

[@InfinitelyGalactic]

Thanks for pointing that out - fixed the transparency so that my hand isn't in the way.

[@YourHuggyFriendo]

@@InfinitelyGalactic 🫡

[@Nostalgia_Realm]

Really am hoping that there is an easy in-place way to upgrade to this new release once it's out. I've replaced Windoze on a few of my client's machines with Mint and would be a shame if it required a full reinstall.. Update automation is on in the Update Manager.

[@davey820051]

The LM blog post announcing the beta release states "It will also be possible to upgrade from Linux Mint 21.3.". I think version updates (within the parameters posted by the dev team) usually go pretty smoothly for most people. Timeshift and data backups are our friends, of course.

[@oraz.]

Man it's favorite distro, I like the whole vibe but Cinnamon is starting to look a bit dated.

[@drumpf4all]

LM getting really good right now.

[@WalterPetrovic]

If you don't special install the BETA will it just be normally updated in one of the rolling updates to what Mint version you are already running?

[@InfinitelyGalactic]

It will be made available as an opt-in upgrade from the Update Manager a few weeks after the stable release. 👍 Not an automatic update - opt-in only.

[@WalterPetrovic]

@@InfinitelyGalactic Thanks

[@Sil3ntLynx]

Looks like some great changes! I only just switched to LMDE as my daily driver, finally all in on Linux. I don't imagine this will happen especially soon, but any notion on when these changes will apply to LMDE?

[@omerta3393]

Not a mint user but I watched just beacuse your videos are really nice.

[@MALLUPLATO]

Can you please show a separate video about Gnome 46 which is pre installed in it. I am excited about the changes.

[@motoryzen]

The Gnome desktop is not installed into mint. It has not been for many many versions now easily more than seven straight. Not sure where you got that from, but this is Linux Mint not Fedora and not Pop OS .

[@craigtrish2011]

It uses cinnamon not gnome, what lol

[@StarlordStavanger]

I'm watching this on Fedora 40 Gnome!

[@JoshuaT902]

You should be using the Debian version of mint. Idk why they go with Ubuntu when they already take time repackaging the snaps to deb

[@darmoed_phantorm]

because of better drivers support

[@3dFirefly]

How do you make your own folder in LM start menu? "Edit menu" (right mouse click on LM button) , I make changes but never see the changes even after reboot. I had it duplicate links to programs if I try to move them to different category.

[@KZ_Official90]

I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon and I've run into a bit of a problem. I think this also happened on Windows. I have a problem with my computer being connected to the TV via. HDMI but for some odd reason I can't get the resolution up to 1920x1080, or I can but the whole screen or picture will be more "zoomed in", it kinda stretches further than my TV. So for now it's set to 1680x1050. It looks just fine but I'm confused as to why this happens. I've tried messing around in the display settings on both Linux and on my TV but I can't fix it from either. What do I do?

[@user-us8om9lp2q]

i would have liked to see more changes, nemo still cannot change the size of icons in the left pane, there are too many themes installed and almost none offer coloured icons in nemos left pane. i don't use mate so no comment there. xfce looks loverly as usual but i could not resize the menu using the mouse ! i currently use xfce 21.2 coz .3 showed too many errors in the log file, after install and daily use i could see an error for md5 check failed to start on live iso ! so i went back to 21.2. that might have been fixed by now, i don't know. i'm whinging i know, but it's a damn fine distro, but it could be so much better with fine tuning. thanks and cheerio

[@davey820051]

Always find IG vids informative. Please don't be so concerned about overexposure-once every six months is NOT too much. 😉

[@CORVETTEZO6-C6]

how to update to that version, please

[@svendyy]

I'm very excited about LM 22, because my hardware is really new, and because of that, LM 21 with old kernel just simply can't boot on my computer. I tried LM Edge, and it was working, but because of Graphic drivers issue, it was lagging so much as if I had 30-60 Hz on 144 Hz monitor, not to mention that it's gaming laptop and I want to run some games on it, and games couldn't load at all. Distros like ubuntu which I tried in my experiences was very laggy, and I had not very good experience with other distros, but I used LM Xfce like a couple of months on my old spare laptop before and I loved it because of it's stability and lightweight.

[@zebo-the-fat]

Will it be possible to upgrade from the previous version or will it need to be a fresh install?

[@avidwriter2882]

I would like to see Gnome 47 vs Cinnamon. I like Cinnamenu but i prefer the "android style" buttons on the top for wifi etc in Gnome 47.

[@nimlouth]

I've been using GNOME 46 on Fedora and it's kind of a pain imho. Extensions are mostly broken, the customization is kinda trash, wayland implementation still has some quirks not present in KDE i.e. etc. They are bringing accento colors on the next update but I think GNOME is again looking bad in comparison to other DE like cinnamon and KDE

[@raphaelkyembe4407]

Lack of system-wide search in Cinamon is the biggest pain I'm enduring after being a long time GNOME user.

[@lKrauzer]

Do you use Mint with EXT4? I really wished the installer had a BTRFS option, instead you need to manually partition the thing

[@AKMishra60]

Splendid...keep it up.

[@raphaelkyembe4407]

Just switched from Fedora GNOME to Mint Cinamon. Only complait I have is the lack of system-wide search

[@kidgoku1984]

Try using the extension "cinnamenu" instead of the default menu, it provides system-wide search

[@raphaelkyembe4407]

@@kidgoku1984 I can't find it. Kindly help with the link

[@kidgoku1984]

@@raphaelkyembe4407 There's no link, it's a Cinnamon extension. Search for "Applets" in the menu, it will open a window. Then go to the "Download" section at the top and search for "Cinnamenu" it should be near the top. Download it and add it to your desktop. It should have system-wide search.

[@bonelifer]

An accurate description, is that Hexchat's author has sunset it's development. So Mint decided not to go forward with a now unsupported app. Less FUD, more INFORMATION.

[@davidhailstone7794]

Might we dare hope that bluetooth will work again? Seemed it went loco two versions ago.

[@williams.ritter3010]

miss seeing you brother

[@thatfitnessguy4718]

How's fractional scaling??

[@Jordan4Ibanez]

I'm just letting you know that your hand makes the thumbnail look like Peta instead of beta

[@williams.ritter3010]

all gtk 4,does this mean more consistent theming?

[@fdg394]

New subscriber here... great channel, informative and very balanced. I just went back from Zorin 17 Pro (and from Zorin to Mint) to plain Debian 12 + Cinnamon; with some tweaks it works exactly like Mint with the advantage of being really light and super fast. I like Mint, I will consider it when (and if) they will migrate completely to Debian

[@pyepye-io4vu]

Anti Ubuntu / Canonical obsession is very strong. I see this "drop Ubuntu" comments everywhere. Mint Ubuntu users on the other hand are normal people.

[@fdg394]

@@pyepye-io4vu Let me disagree... I'm not anti Ubuntu / Canonical (or any other brand or distro). Everyone is free to use whatever they like and whatever they feel the best solution for them. Ubuntu is a Debian derivative; if you know what to do and how to do it, I think using Debian is extremely satisfying as well as incredibly stable (for me, IMVHO). That's all. (I also use FreeBSD for other purposes). I don't use Windows though, no, that I don't like :)

[@nairac212]

Need a refreshed theme

[@atlantic_love]

4:44 "now opens almost instantaneously" 😆 Dropping the IRC client was a good move. IRC has been DEAD for a long, long time. Back when I was spending time on it in the very early 2000's it was also a toxic environment where very few of the folks present actually knew what the hell they were talking about, but most everyone loved to pretend that they did know. YuR hAwT

[@drakemallard6100]

So the installer still gives me the @ and @home Subvolumes when installing on btrfs out of the box?

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

Hoping it will land on LMDE soon.

[@Wayne-Pr]

As a Linux Mint 21.3 user will there be an easy risk free upgrade path to Linux Mint 22 ?.

[@AhmetSamli_]

Yes

[@mikeunt44]

They will put an icon near your update manager, or you can open the update manager and click edit and it will be there.

[@kriswayne7938]

What version should I download now? i just want to get to work on my brave

[@amitshaw0702]

Is there any harm to our SSD if we frequently flashing means within 2 day new flashing

[@MotownBatman]

Been MINT since Day 1, the first few versions were just Ubuntu so I didnt Actually make it a Daily Driver until 4

[@free-palestine-w2x]

I love Linux Mint with KDE. Cinnamon is depressing to me

[@davidhailstone7794]

Will the final version be an upgrade or fresh install?

[@InfinitelyGalactic]

It will be an in-place upgrade available through the Update Manager a few weeks after the stable release. 👍

[@fabricio4794]

I did not Update my Virginia version,maybe mext year....

[@k.b.tidwell]

I've hopped almost every distro within every Linux family and I have always come back to Mint because it's just an all-around great package. I'm on LMDE now, because Canonical is Microsoft repackaged.

[@Jimbo-v3m]

So WHERE is the link for the beta?

[@avidwriter2882]

Does fractional scaling still drop lots of frames at 4k on youtube?

[@motoryzen]

Even if it did it doesn't matter yet because this is a beta not a final product. Do not assume that by installing Linux Mint 22 beta that it is fully ready to be on a production machine or any PC where you put your valuable data on

[@AndreFachat2]

Thanks for the video! A comparison to Plasma would be nice!

[@positivanollan6353]

I just installed Linux Mint 21. It's the first time I try Linux and I'm very happy with how I have managed to customize it to look exactly as I want. Will it be possible to upgrade to Mint 22 and keep all the customization I have done or will I have to make a whole new installation and start over with the customization?

[@k.b.tidwell]

The upgrade should not change your customizations at all. I have never had problems over several full upgrades.

[@positivanollan6353]

@@k.b.tidwell Please excuse a dumb question from a complete novice, but will Mint 22 show up as a software update in Mint 21, or will I have to download the iso and install it on top of the existing system?

[@motoryzen]

​@@positivanollan6353it is a pretty reasonably High chance that it will show up as an update or upgrade within the software application called update Manager. Given the past one or two major versions straight as well as the subversions which is. One, two, and. 3 subversions have all shown up in there as well

[@kriswayne7938]

Should i download 21 or the 22?

[@k.b.tidwell]

@@kriswayne7938 apparently my comment from yesterday was deleted because I included a link to a page on the linux mint blog showing how to upgrade it. Search on "how to upgrade linux mint" and you will find the link a couple entries down the page. Before you do anything, make a snapshot of your system for just in case there's a problem. Go with the latest version. Again, the process is pretty much bulletproof but: timeshift is your friend.

[@abatabat8855]

What do you think : when is the final release date of LM 22?

[@InfinitelyGalactic]

In the grand tradition of Linux Mint..."when it is ready". But seriously, it will probably release in the next 3-4 weeks from the publishing date of this video. That's the rough timeline of how long a BETA testing phase lasts before they release the final.

[@abatabat8855]

@@InfinitelyGalactic ok thank you ^^

[@MrKrimstah]

We need you now more then ever as Mac OS and windows integrate ai spyware

[@Komentujebomoge32]

Woah GTK4, already? Damn.

[@akitake_]

Still not having Wayland is a bit of a bummer, otherwise great stuff! Much prefer arch here over a debian/ubuntu base for a desktop, but that's just me.

[@mikeunt44]

Change it at start up lmao

[@prism223]

Linux Mint Peta was what the thumbnail said

[@InfinitelyGalactic]

Thanks for pointing that out - fixed the transparency so that my hand isn't in the way.

[@Eric.Abraham]

Still X11?

[@mikeunt44]

When you sign in you can change to Wayland.

[@emirvmendoza]

10:23 "Patrick Griffis (aka “Tingping”), known for his work on many open-source projects (GNOME, Flatpak, Gnome-MPV, Meson, etc.), announced the end of the Hexchat project: [...] In Linux Mint, Hexchat has been the default IRC client since 2014. Before that Linux Mint shipped with Xchat, which Hexchat was based on. I can’t remember the last time we shipped without an IRC client, if we ever did. Going forward, since Hexchat is discontinued, we need to either remove it from the default selection or replace it with another application." - Clem, "Monthly News - February 2024", 5 March 2024, Linux Mint Blog Not because "IRC as a protocol is getting quite ancient now"

[@someone01233]

Welcome back

[@satyamevajayate7263]

Wayland is still not as default for mint 😐. X11 looks so ancient.

[@craigtrish2011]

x11 and wayland dont LOOK like anything. Cinnamon desktop environment is probably what you're talking about....

[@mikeunt44]

Wayland and X11 are just display servers, you can change this at sign in. Not hard at all, just a simple toggle.

[@satyamevajayate7263]

@@mikeunt44 as default…x11 is still buggy.

[@svan71]

No Wayland?

[@MichaelTavares]

Kaysh, not cash-aye

[@K0r0n1s]

Caché?

[@86ericg]

There still using old nvidia drivers no 550 or 555 drivers they need to verified microsoft edge flatpack i love edge drfault it will not show until you enable unferified flatpack

[@motoryzen]

No Linux Mint does not need to verify Microsoft Edge as a flat pack or it's flat pack version to make it easily accessible, it is a Microsoft product not a Linux product not a mint product not a Debian product. If you want to use a Microsoft product or service or software then you need to run Microsoft Windows and be done with it

[@86ericg]

​​​@@motoryzenfirst of all microsoft edge is available for linux second it's block by default or hide flatpack if you dont enable to see unverifide flatpack they need to check that its safe🤨

[@motoryzen]

@@86ericg I couldn't care any less if Microcrap Edge is available for Linux ..You can call it " native Linux" version if you want also...but Microcrap has PROVEN throughout multiple decades of history that they DO NOT...share the Linux philosophies and HAVE..proven for multiple decades they still live by E.E.E. Second...Yeah..no shit it's blocked by default in Mint 22 beta ( and good for that ). Clem and his team already stated any Unsigned Flatpak applications will be visually blocked in Software Manager store app by default. So what...that DOESN'T stop you from finding it. Think a little... It's not that hard

[@86ericg]

​@@motoryzen why you have to be a asshole

[@go0ot]

Nice one mate

[@Tubeytime]

I hear Australian accent > I stay

[@jackburton5085]

No more IRC? Noooo😭

[@SouthFacedWindows]

Cinnamon needs a massive UI overhaul. Looks too old now!

[@atlantic_love]

Linux WM's in general need a massive overhaul. It's 2024.

[@motoryzen]

If you want to use a tablet or phone then use a tablet or phone, the entire point of Linux Mint cinnamon is a tried-and-true traditional design that just works and it's something that Windows users are very familiar with which draws more incoming Windows users to the Linux world than any other distribution for throughout the past 7 plus years

[@motoryzen]

Tying into that point and a case you're whining about how Linux Mint never has the newest kernels, Linux Mint isn't about being brand new and bleeding edge it's about being rock-solid and dependable and being a happy medium between that and bleeding edge. It's not like any of this is anything new

[@sayemoid]

They should really work on start menu design. It's ugly af!

[@Tubeytime]

ah yes computer nerds, they only understand things in 0 or 1

[@motoryzen]

Just because you wanted to look like Android or iOS tablet doesn't make it ugly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the start menu. It gets the job done it's tried and true it just works

[@sayemoid]

@@motoryzen I don't want it to be like Android tablet, but I think putting a bit effort on it's design to make it more modern would be a great thing to do. Don't get me wrong, I understand different people have different use cases and taste and I love Linux mint. It's just start menu feels way too much traditional and windows like. Making it better doesn't mean to make it more tablet like mate.

[@balsalmalberto8086]

Just because you wanted to look like Windows 11 with ads doesn't make it ugly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the start menu. It gets the job done it's tried and true it just works

[@motoryzen]

@@balsalmalberto8086 I never said a damn thing about wanting my desktop or operating system to look like wind turd 11. I was speaking to the masses who are coming from Windows who want something a little more relatable than freaking gnome vanilla such as what's found with Fedora or pop os Why the flying butt nugget fuck what I want ads baked into my operating system? I'm a Linux user you numbskull

[@k90v85]

cacha

[@gideonunger7284]

mint seems so behind and slow compared to other distros. ubuntu is moving so much faster when it comes to wayland, fractional scaling, gestures, up to date kernels etc. used to have mint for a long time but now its unusable with modern hardware.

[@user-sm1jp4en9u]

True

[@jothain]

It also works like absolute shiiit. Just for longest time tried to install Ubuntu LTS to one of my laptops. Got everything setup correctly and then began to copy very large files from USB drive to internal drive and system freezes completely every single time. Good reminder why I ditched Ubuntu for a long time. There's always something broken in it.

[@user-sm1jp4en9u]

@@jothain he is talking about mint not ubuntu

[@jothain]

@@user-sm1jp4en9u That was the exact point.

[@user-sm1jp4en9u]

@@jothain nah man cinnamon is also problematic along with the ubuntu base.....

[@smebox]

I dont use windows now. linux mint and zoring is my daily drive no..