This is the vilest limit I've ever seen and if I ever become a calculus teacher I'll definitely put it in one of the exams
@jewlez89157 жыл бұрын
Kiritsu u evil beast
@UltraLuigi24017 жыл бұрын
Just make it the exam. Or the extra credit that gives you a huge boost.
@giannispolychronopoulos26807 жыл бұрын
While I have to admit it was quite tiring and time consuming, methodology wise, it was pretty simple. Not even comparable to some monster like lim( n!/n^n)^(1/n) with n approaching infinity. That’s by far the most difficult one I have ever seen
@karinano1stan6 жыл бұрын
@@giannispolychronopoulos2680 yea that one is definition of hard question-simple answer.
@redaabakhti7685 жыл бұрын
not good not good we need more proofs related questions
@mbossaful7 жыл бұрын
To be honest, if I got that in an exam, about half-way through working it out I'd assume that I'd done something wrong and just give up and move on to the next question.
@tcocaine7 жыл бұрын
I mean the exam would have to be just that question because you're using every rule in it anyway haha
@landochabod76 жыл бұрын
Ben McKenzie This solution is unnecessary complicated, with all the fraction multiplying. Just collect x, do a MacLaurin expansion of the square roots, stopping at the first term after the 1 in order not to get 1^inf. It's going to be: lim (1 + a/x)^x = e^a, with a = -1/2, which you should know, or if you don't, you can easily find with De l'Hopital.
@KnakuanaRka6 жыл бұрын
landochabod7 I have no idea what you’re talking about, and this is from somebody who understands everything bprp’s talking about!
@okaro65956 жыл бұрын
I thought the same.
@dekippiesip5 жыл бұрын
@@tcocaine it would be best to give this as a homework exercise.
@RoderickEtheria2 жыл бұрын
The teachers I have had in the past would hate that answer. They'd want to get the square roots out of the denominator, and have (square root e)/e instead.
@ianmi4i7272 жыл бұрын
Perhaps. In Calculus, it's customary to leave the result unrationalized.
@mmmtastyalidzie24352 жыл бұрын
after doing a question like that i wouldnt give a damn about rationalising the fraction lol
@Nonexistility2 жыл бұрын
You mean e^1/2 ?
@sirjain44082 жыл бұрын
@@Nonexistility They just rationalized it
@JayTemple2 жыл бұрын
That's the difference between an algebra teacher and a calculus teacher.
@JohnDixon7 жыл бұрын
If you look up the word "tedious" in the dictionary, you will almost certainly find a picture of this limit problem.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
John Dixon If you search calc2 final exam, then... :)
@skilz80984 жыл бұрын
This is an easy one. Next up, find the limit of the needed angles to perform 3 consecutive orthographic rotations in Polar Coordinates using Quaternions while mapping it to a 3D Complex Cartesian plane where those rotations do not change its original orientation!
@skilz80984 жыл бұрын
@@kausarmeutuwah8304 Haha! I was being a bit sarcastic! That type of problem with all of the multivariable unknowns and many partial derivatives and multiple integrations would be insane! It would probably take 3-5 whiteboards and about 30 pens and about 15 hours to do it by hand! Let's just open up Wolfram or Mathlab... let it do it for us! Get the response, can not compute!
@luismariabiaggioni85144 жыл бұрын
Heavyyyyyy!!!!
@luismariabiaggioni85144 жыл бұрын
Heavyyyyyy!!!!
@PopKa167 жыл бұрын
imagine you want to show this in a perfect formal way. I think the video would go over 1 hour. But a real good problem in which you can check if you really confident in limits.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
namensindüberbewertet yea I know. That's why I just circled circled loll
@pullingrabbitsouttaahat4 жыл бұрын
This is an example of the Abuse of Lopital's Rule not the use of it. Watch This Video fo learn More About the abuse of Lopital's Rule : kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaekp6Obpq-ee9U
@JakubS3 жыл бұрын
@@pullingrabbitsouttaahat I would see it but you spelled l'Hôpital wrong
@pullingrabbitsouttaahat3 жыл бұрын
@@JakubS Thanks For Pointing Out. But I Don't Care Much Useless Things.
@wristdisabledwriter28937 жыл бұрын
Bursts out laughing when you said pray your calculus 2 teacher doesn’t see this. Thank goodness I already finished calc 2
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
nadia salem (I am actually a calc2 teacher loll)
@wristdisabledwriter28937 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen I just hope you don’t give this one on the finale unless it’s the only question
@zombiedude3474 жыл бұрын
It's been 6 years since I took calc 2, although my teachers covered this type of limit in calc 1.
@bombardier60334 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw it, I knew it would lead to 1^infinity What I was not ready for was the bit after. I love your videos and they've genuinely helped me.
@pullingrabbitsouttaahat4 жыл бұрын
This is an example of the Abuse of Lopital's Rule not the use of it. Watch This Video fo learn More About the abuse of Lopital's Rule : kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaekp6Obpq-ee9U
@playmaker5605 Жыл бұрын
@@pullingrabbitsouttaahat this link is probably an add to his content that seems controversial, probably not something to waste time one except if you wanna laugh.
@adamkangoroo84757 жыл бұрын
Square root of e... That's when you know you broke mathematics.
@seroujghazarian63435 жыл бұрын
Or when you find out that a subset has more elements than the original set
@skilz80984 жыл бұрын
@@seroujghazarian6343 That's not hard to do. How many integers are there in the set of values in this inclusive range of [0,1]? Simply 2. Now, how many reals are there in that same inclusive range? Infinite!
@seroujghazarian63434 жыл бұрын
@@skilz8098 Yeah, but considering ]0,1[ has as many elements as R (cot(πx) being the bijection between them)...
@skilz80984 жыл бұрын
@@seroujghazarian6343 Nice! I like my conjecture... Every single concept of mathematics, all branches, and levels are all embedded in the simple expression (1+1) ... Everything is derived or integrated from it. Just the act of adding 1 to itself, the application of applying the operation of addition which is a linear transformation, translation to be exact defines the unit circle. There is perfect symmetry, reflection, and a 180 degree or PI radians rotation embedded within it. It isn't directly obvious at first, but take a piece of paper and mark a point on it and draw a line segment of an arbitrary distance towards your right. Now label the starting point 0 and the ending point 1. To add 1 to this line segment or unit vector is to take the total length or its magnitude and translate it along the same line in the same direction. The tail of the new vector will be at the head of the original and the head of the new vector will be pointing at 2. By doing this the total distance is from the initial point of 0 to the new location will be 2. This turns the expression of (1+1) into the equation (1+1) = 2. This equation is actually the definition of both the Pythagorean Theorem and the Equation of the Unit Circle that is positioned at the origin (0,0). You see, we went to the right from the starting point and labeled that 1. We could of went to the left and labeled it 1 as well. However, they are opposing directions, and vectors have two parts, magnitude its length, and its sign or direction or angle of rotation. So, we can label the point to the left with -1. Here the starting point of 0 is the point of reflection, point of symmetry and the point of rotation. If we rotate the point 1 to the point -1 with respect to the initial point 0, you will make an arc that is PI radians which also takes you from 1D space into 2D space. Now we have the Y coordinates as well. This is simply due to 1+1 = 2 which is also 1x2 = 2. And this is evident because we know that a circle with a radius of one has a diameter of 2, its Circumference is 2*PI and its Area is PI units^2. We know that the Pythagorean Theorem is C^2 = A^2 + B^2. We also know that the equation of a circle centered at the origin is r^2 = x^2 + y^2... They are the same exact equation. When we look at the general equation of a line in the form of y = mx+b we know that m is the slope between two points and b is the y-intercept. The slope is m = (y2 - y1)/(x2-x1). We can let m = 1, and b = 0 and this gives us y = x. A diagonal line that goes through the origin. This line has an angle of 45 degrees or PI/4 radians above the X-axis. We know by definition that the slope is rise/run. We also see that it is (y2-y1)/(x2-x1) which is also dy/dx, change in y over change in x. If we look closer we can see that dy/dx is also sin(t)/cos(t) where (t) is the angle above the x-axis. This is also tan(t). When you look at the original equation of the line y = mx+b we can see this as f(x) = tan(t)x + b. This all comes from 1+1 = 2! Every polynomial, every geometrical shape, including vectors and matrices, their operations, even concepts in calculus such as derivatives and integrals are rooted in (1+1)! I just love how everything within mathematics is all connected and related! I'm sure you know all of these concepts but was just wanting to illustrate all of their interconnections. Yes, I take a Physical approach to mathematical induction! Why? Because without physics, or the ability to move, or translate, then the operation of addition would have no application or meaning! You can not even add 1 to itself in a scalar manner without treating them first as vector quantities. The number 1 itself is the unit vector, and the unit vector is the number 1 itself. You need physics, motion to perform the operation of addition! And as soon as you have motion, you have, limits, derivatives, and integrals!
@raghavagarwal34684 жыл бұрын
skilz8098 very well written!
@anastasiskanidis19252 жыл бұрын
This is honestly the best limit I have ever seen, it has literally everything a student needs to be able to calculate limits (when x goes to infinity). Absolutely amazing.
@SN-of5tu2 жыл бұрын
I just failed my calculus test, and after having watched so many videos on youtube on how to solve indeterminates, the algorithm has recommended me this. Never before have I been so happy to never have stumbled upon this equation. I'm pretty sure that it would have broken me if it had appeared in the test. Now I have newfound respect towards normal indeterminates. This right here is the eldritch equivalent of indeterminates. It makes me shudder to think how you even stumbled upon it.
@azmath20597 жыл бұрын
This is truly great maths to watch, and one hell of a limit problem. Thanks for posting.
@NazriB2 жыл бұрын
Lies again? DMP Triple
@dugong3693 жыл бұрын
By doing a little more algebra on the first limit calculation (that resulted in 1) you get 2x/(2x+1) (which is 1 - 1/(2x+1) ). So the original limit is (2x/(2x+1))^x. By substituting m=2x+1, this results in (1-1/m)^(m/2 - 1/2). Using lim as n->inf (1+a/n)^bn = e^ab, the limit is e^(-1/2).
@yoyoezzijr2 жыл бұрын
This is the best answer
@alanturingtesla7 жыл бұрын
I am really happy to see 20 minutes video. Yay indeed! Thanks!
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Crazy Drummer I am very glad too. Thank you!!!
@Joshinthetronk Жыл бұрын
I just finished my calc I final exam and I gotta say I’m pretty excited for calc II. Thank you for such a great rigorous video to end my night :D
@kono152 Жыл бұрын
congrats on finishing calc 1
@purushotamgarg84536 жыл бұрын
What a patient guy... I usually edit a step to change it into the next step and this way I save a lot of ink and space. But he is so hard working. Hats Off..
@JBaker4527 жыл бұрын
This idea of ignoring lower order terms reminds me of something we call O-notation in rough algorithmic time and memory measurement calculations.
@Latronibus3 жыл бұрын
You can do this problem with a Taylor approach, which ends up being formally written with oh notation (you need your error in the brackets to be o(1/x) to get the right final answer).
@BrutalBeast6663 жыл бұрын
I saw this video on my recommended today and even though it is late I just had to comment on what I found. Changing the constants by 1 multiplies the solution by a factor of 1/√e As in lim(x->inf) of (√x²+2x+4-√x²+3)^x = 1 and lim(x->inf) of (√x²+2x+2-√x²+3)^x = 1/e The other constant also works similarly lim(x->inf) of (√x²+2x+3-√x²+2)^x = 1 and lim(x->inf) of (√x²+2x+3-√x²+4)^x = 1/e Basically the solution comes out as lim(x->inf) of (√x²+2x+a-√x²+b)^x = e^[½(a-b-1)] I would never have guessed that just by looking at the equation.
@valentindo4 жыл бұрын
If we substitute x with 1/y , y approaching 0 in the positive area we can jump a lot of algebric steps.
@thibaultfelicite96416 жыл бұрын
The evil Laugh at 17:18 x)
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
: )
@LudwigvanBeethoven24 жыл бұрын
This is those questions that you skip without even looking at it
@perpetuarealityVODs7 жыл бұрын
Yo Dawg, I heard you like indeterminate forms, so I put an indeterminate form on your indeterminate form so you can calculate limits while you calculate limits!
@mohan153doshi Жыл бұрын
I don't mind answering this question in my final exam but only if you are my calculus teacher, for I would then surely know that my efforts would be truly appreciated. Of course no other calculus teacher would even dream of such a vile limit, let alone put it on a final exam paper. Great explanation, great problem and as usual - that's it.
@kira-ph5eh4 жыл бұрын
In India , we have a easy formula for limits in the form 1^Infinity. It is lim x->a f(x) ^g(x) and f(a)=1 and g(a) =Infinity = e^{lim x->a g(x) * ( 1 - f(x) )}
@preetpatil13664 жыл бұрын
Yaa its right
@AndDiracisHisProphet7 жыл бұрын
that was süper brütal also, as a christmas gift almost as good as socks.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
AndDiracisHisProphet hahahahahah. I like those dots on the u
@AndDiracisHisProphet7 жыл бұрын
that's the second time derivative.
@voltairesarmy67027 жыл бұрын
Wats wrong with socks? I could use a few pairs. :)
@AndDiracisHisProphet7 жыл бұрын
It's like gifting your girlfriend with a vacuum cleaner or an iron
@pullingrabbitsouttaahat4 жыл бұрын
This is an example of the Abuse of Lopital's Rule not the use of it. Watch This Video fo learn More About the abuse of Lopital's Rule : kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaekp6Obpq-ee9U
@altrogeruvah7 жыл бұрын
I've watched so many blackpenredpen videos enough to start understanding what it is I'm watching, I am so happy ~
@hipepleful2 жыл бұрын
This gave me the idea of an inverse limit. I can't really come up with a way for it to be used consistently. "Lim^-1 as x -> oo of 2" would be the notation. Maybe, instead of a constant, it would help do a function inside a function?
@PixelSergey2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean "find a function that approaches this limit as x->inf"?
@hipepleful2 жыл бұрын
@@PixelSergey I'm not really sure.
@createyourownfuture38402 жыл бұрын
I had that idea too, but then it quickly dawned upon me that the idea of an inverse limit is impossible. This is why:- 1) lim (2x/x) x->oo 2) lim (x²/x) x-> 2 3) lim (x) x->2 All lead to the same result, but there's no way that we can list all possible limits which lead to 2. You will say, we cannot list all the answers of ln(-1), but that's different. There's at least a system by which we can do this. We only have to keep changing the number of rotations. This case is exactly the result of 'there are different types of infinities'. You can say that ln(-1) has countably infinite answers, while the idea of inverse limit has uncountably many answers.
@hipepleful2 жыл бұрын
@@createyourownfuture3840 is it different to log1(x)? I do admit the inverse is realistically useless. My guess is if it DID have a use, it would more likely for organization (ie. Making sure that you have to raise your "answer" to e in order to fully answer the question. Maybe something with catagorization theory (I heard it's a thing, and I have no clue what it's about minus the obvious)?
@tusharkaushalrajput4 жыл бұрын
Maths will be interesting if you are my teacher. I remembered that today is teachers day. Happy teachers day
@Stepbrohelp7 жыл бұрын
I just want to know who drew the house that you can faintly see on the left side of the whiteboard
@waterdragonlucas82632 жыл бұрын
As someone who is not very familiar with calculus, I feel like bprp is making up rules as he goes to make it look like he knows what he's doing (which he is)
@Impossiblegend2 жыл бұрын
Watched the video twice (and know calc) everything he does is correct I just would have done it differently
@ununeniy58434 жыл бұрын
lim x->infinity (1+1/x)^x->e; after we have 1^(infinity)=e
@swarupjyotibiswas29403 жыл бұрын
This 22 mins was the best part of my day...
@YaStasDavydov7 жыл бұрын
I believe it would be easier to solve using t=1/x substitution and then doing McLauren series expansion at point t=0
@itamarrosen79117 жыл бұрын
Yo i checked in the calculator and the limit is true!!
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Itamar Rosen thanks!!!!!!
@badhbhchadh5 жыл бұрын
Damn, do you have a TI-89?
@inx18194 жыл бұрын
@@badhbhchadh most likely he didn't use a ti89, i typed it in like 2 minutes ago and it's still calculating LMAO wolfram alpha gives it in 2 seconds tho
@mathevengers11313 жыл бұрын
It means that you don't trust him.
@11cookeaw14 Жыл бұрын
I worked it out with the simple approximation (a+b)^.5 is approximately a^.5+b/(2a^.5) when a>>b.
@MateusTinoco1237 жыл бұрын
I think I have a challenge for you... It's a question that was on the test for calculus monitor of my college, here in Brazil. It goes like this: -Calculate: limit when n -> Infinite of ( 1/((√n).(√(n+1))) + 1/((√n).(√(n+2))) + 1/((√n).(√(n+3))) + ... + 1/((√n).(√(n+n))) ). It might be a challenge, or not! It would be really nice to see you solving it in video, if possible! Thanks for all your videos, they are very funny and inspiring!
@phythematics21884 жыл бұрын
lim (sqrt ax^2+bx+c-sqrt ax^2+c=e^-(b/4sqrt of a)
@fitriazusni26552 жыл бұрын
I ll have calculus I final exam next week. Thank you for the video!
@maxhaibara88287 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you're not a lecturer in my univ, or else the exam will be hellish haha
@jeim3764 жыл бұрын
Max Haibara tbh I think this problem would be fun but it would take me hours at least
@arielfuxman88684 жыл бұрын
e comes up when you do not expect it. Brilliant!
@fellipeparreiras44354 жыл бұрын
This is more of a hand workout than a calculus question 😂😂😂
@jwky82955 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that got cracked up when he said "oh, I drew the same box again" I spent 5 minutes plus laughing man
@c.j.31844 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this makes it any simpler but since you have f(x)^x as a limit, maybe you could use the limit that defines e^x? Or in this case, e^k? Like so... [sqrt(x^2 + 2x + 3) - sqrt(x^2 + 3)]^x = [1 + k/x]^x solving for k gives k = x*[sqrt(x^2 + 2x + 3) - sqrt(x^2 + 3) - 1] but [1 + k/x]^x is just e^k in the limit you still have to work out that x*[sqrt(x^2 + 2x + 3) - sqrt(x^2 + 3) - 1] is equal to -1/2 in the limit
@Jacob-uy8ox6 жыл бұрын
one of the most insane limits ever seen! a huge madness..
@KwongBaby7 жыл бұрын
I watch it all amazing and very complicated differentiation work thank you
@erroraftererror832912 күн бұрын
If I was a calculus professor I would put this limit in as a bonus question for a test for extra credit. It’s a good challenge for the students who could take it on.
@crimfan3 жыл бұрын
Oh... my... God. That's some seriously insane algebra. Talk about a test of knowledge of detail! Well done.
@digbycrankshaft75722 жыл бұрын
A great feat of perseverance using various interesting techniques. Awesome 👌
@sloosh21882 жыл бұрын
Sqrt(e)/e makes my calc teacher happier. Great work amazing video!
@____________Samuel___________72 жыл бұрын
Next 1+1 = log 5 (69)/ln 2 e^x dx - lim 3->x^2
@kerrynewman12215 жыл бұрын
My Alma Mater, UC Berkeley. Love it, hate it. It's academics are great, love your lectures. Hate Berkeley's politics. I graduated deplorable. EE 1984.
@spontidakisnikolas33133 жыл бұрын
10:40 yeah because the other part was really easy to think of
@copperfield427 жыл бұрын
is a Indeterminaception XD
@XBGamerX202 жыл бұрын
here's a simple explanation from a 10th grader: (personal opinion - theory) * infinity is not a number, therefore something unknown, probably an unknown set with unknown value. it's a value that's above every number. therefore: 1. subtracting infinity from infinity equals infinity and not 0 again, due to the fact that its value is unknown. upon raising it to the power of infinity, we would again get infinity. 2.another theory is that subtracting infinity from infinity may equal an infinity smaller than those 2. and that smaller infinity can eventually get into a really big one if we raise it the power of infinity. (ok this one's a little confusing lol) 3. finally, if infinity - infinity can equal 0, raising it to the power of infinity can somehow equal infinity again, similar with the undefined equation 0x = a (a not 0). 4. considering that infinity may sometimes represent the set of real numbers, we can use simple algebra (which is false) to get what we know from properties: (infinity - infinity)^infinity = 0^infinity = 0 5. another theory may be that again if infinity represents the real number set, we can say that we have a subtraction within all 2 real numbers raised to a power that has all the real numbers. that sounds like the 2nd one, except we have a specific number set, the real one. remember those are theories, nothing of them is proved so they're false in current terms of simple algebra
@sansamman46197 жыл бұрын
i have a rule made its called de' or eo rule (de)means take the derivative of all functions inside the parentheses and the derivative of the power as well, eo means take the integral ( the second step might not work, but you should try ot if the de step fails )
@adandap4 жыл бұрын
Wow - you managed to make this *way* harder than it needed to be! Use the Taylor series for sqrt(1+a) = 1 +a/2 - a^2/8+... for both square roots after pulling out x. Then you get L = lim (1-1/(2x))^x = e^(-1/2) very easily.
@blackpenredpen4 жыл бұрын
adandap yup, I like to torture myself with math! You should check out my “extreme algebra” and “100 integrals” videos : )
@HimmDawg7 жыл бұрын
This thing looks like the raidboss of calculus, but once we know its secret, it becomes easy(er)...... it still looks terrifying :D
@harshjain31224 жыл бұрын
Or could have just substituted x=1/t Then used binomial on those two polynomials. Finally, series expansion of ln(1-t) or standard formula of ln(1+x)/x = 1. Could have been much much easier to solve but ok
Video length: twenty fuckin minutes Me: isn't anything minus itself zero? And isn't zero to the power of anything, zero?
@Tortoisaurus2 жыл бұрын
Thats me
@Cross_Marian004 жыл бұрын
Really bruh moment for student which in a exam
@tesfahuntilahun10385 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your idea. The thing that I like to add to you is that there is some possibilities that 1^infinity=1 this is from great professor.
@zaidsalameh17 жыл бұрын
Rationalizing denominator for the final Answer?
@alexanderterry1877 жыл бұрын
ZAID SALAMEH why?
@FranLegon7 жыл бұрын
How?
@FranLegon7 жыл бұрын
scrt(e)/e still has an irrational denominator
@jeromesnail7 жыл бұрын
ZAID SALAMEH "we're adults now"
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
jeromesnail (sqrt(e))^(-1)
@gtziavelis7 жыл бұрын
upside-down thumbnail
@nathanielb35104 жыл бұрын
9:39 "because of the Chain Rule" ... the what? Is that related to the Chen Lu?
@godson2004 жыл бұрын
No because of the china flu
@pullingrabbitsouttaahat4 жыл бұрын
This is an example of the Abuse of Lopital's Rule not the use of it. Watch This Video fo learn More About the abuse of Lopital's Rule : kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaekp6Obpq-ee9U
@gregorio88277 жыл бұрын
Whats the limit of this expresion when x goes to 0? It is a 0^0 situation
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
omg.....
@gregorio88277 жыл бұрын
Omg!! I've done it. The answer is 1. I just aplied LH two times and i ended with ln(L)=0 so L is equal to 1. I take a look with geogebra and im right! I can't believe this is the first limit i've solved
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
OH WOW! that's impressive!!!
@gregorio88277 жыл бұрын
Could you take the limit when x goes to negative infinty and work with complex numbers? I think that would be pretty dificult (Sorry for the bad english)
@Sam-el4hq4 жыл бұрын
@@gregorio8827 I, using my s___ty math ended up with 0, read my comment to see how I got it
@V21Jays7 жыл бұрын
13:05 the x in the line above is hidden by the glare of the lights in case you're confused like I was
@FuhrerShattercore7 жыл бұрын
Thank god I finished all calculus courses before blackandredpen invented this monster
@jarmingho7 жыл бұрын
Best Xmas gift ever!
@paradoxicallyexcellent51385 жыл бұрын
You should do a follow-up video doing this the right way, with the second-order Taylor approximation of the square root function.
@paradoxicallyexcellent51385 жыл бұрын
First order gives you 1^infinity. Second order gives you (1-1/(2x))^x
@UnknownGhost97 Жыл бұрын
This is the one i thought Ramanujan and other math greats wouldn't have solved it
@Anchelok6 жыл бұрын
OMG he wrote so many things with BLUE PEN.
@Nerdwithoutglasses4 жыл бұрын
e^-0.5 is a famous guy, I also found him while doing limit x goes to inf of (xln(1+1/x))^x
@FaerieDragonZook5 жыл бұрын
An easier way to solve this would be to recognize that x^2 +2x +3 = (x+1)^2 + 2. Then when you calculate the inner limit, keep an extra term. [(x^2 +2x +3) - (x^2 +3)]÷[((x+1)^2 +2)^.5 + (x^2 +3)^.5] -> (2x) ÷ (x+1 + x) = 1 - 1/(2x +1). When you then calculate this to the power x and compare it to the definition of e, the answer e^(-1/2) drops out automatically. To be more careful, you can show that the inner function is equal to (1 - 1/(2x) + O(1/x^2)) for all positive x.
@ehess14924 жыл бұрын
At 5:30, when using the x^2 pieces of sqrt to cancel the 2x, how can you ignore the remaining x^1 term, that would give some factor of sqrt(inf) in the denominator, which would send the limit to zero?
@cmorris68752 жыл бұрын
when solving limits where x-->inf , especially with functions that are one polynomial over another, a useful trick is to multiply both the numerator and the denominator by (1/x). keep doing this until the highest degree term is reduced to only a coefficient. then, when the limit is taken, those other terms end up being some number devided by infinity, which makes them zero. this is why he ignores all but the highest degree term; the other terms are reduced to zero.
@shreyanray7624 Жыл бұрын
how to solve this within 2mins speedrun : first take the limit of the base, you find it to be 1, so its 1^inf form lim f^g when f --> 1 and g--> inf is e^lim (f-1)*g use this standard trick, and you get a simple limit of 0 * inf form use binomial thereom for general powers find the constant term and ignore terms with lower powers of x, you get -1/2 Enjoy your correct answer.
@AlwinMao7 жыл бұрын
Another way, if you happen to know Taylor series, (1+x)^n = 1 + n*x + (1/2) * n(n-1)x^2 + ... n = 0.5 for square root, so sqrt(x^2 + 2x + 3) = x sqrt(1 + 2/x + 3/x^2) = x (1 + 0.5 (2/x+3/x^2) - (1/8) (2/x + 3/x^2)^2 + ... ) and sqrt(x^2 + 3) = x sqrt(1 + 3/x/x) = x (1 + 0.5 (3/x^2) - (1/8) (3/x^2)^2 + ... ) As x -> infinity, 1/x >> 1/x^2 >> 1/x^3, so we can ignore higher terms once we have a few non-zero terms. Subtracting the two, term by term: x (1 + 0.5 (2/x+3/x^2) - (1/8) (2/x + 3/x^2)^2 + ... ) - x (1 + 0.5 (3/x^2) - (1/8) (3/x^2)^2 + ... ) =x (0 + 0.5(2/x) - (1/8) (4/x^2 + 12/x^3 + 9/x^4 - 9/x^4)) =x ( 1/x - (1/2x^2) - (1/x^3 terms and smaller, which can be ignored)) = 1 - (1/2)(1/x) - (smaller terms, which go to 0, taking x -> infinity) The limit is then quickly (1 - (1/2)(1/x))^x, which we know to be e^-(1/2). Solving it this way means thinking of a few less-tedious steps. 1. A few terms of Taylor series, plugging into a general formula we already know 2. Subtract the two parts to see what is left over. 3. Make sure what is left over is not zero. Add more terms and repeat step 1 if it is zero. In this case, I expanded to 1/x^2, ignoring 1/x^3., and the components of the power series were (2/x + 3/x^2)^n, so I knew I needed Taylor series terms up to n = 2. If I used only n = 1, I would have missed the contribution (2/x + 3/x^2)^2 = (4/x^2 + ...). If I didn't expand to 1/x^2, I would have been left with (1)^infinity, which is indeterminate. I knew this would happen because I had something that looked like x sqrt (1 + ... ) - x sqrt (1 + ... ). 4. Use definition of e. The time-consuming part is repeatedly adding more terms to the Taylor expansion. Intuition and practice will help you figure out how many terms and what order to expand to. Most of the time the answer will only require n = 1 or n = 2, requiring multiplications instead of derivatives, and usually requiring only 1/x or 1/x^2 terms. The point is: Taylor series can do the derivatives for you, so all you do is multiply terms and keep track of the ones that are large enough to matter.
@AlwinMao7 жыл бұрын
Doing it this way helps to see what would happen if the numbers were replaced with other numbers. lim ( sqrt(x^2 + 2x + a) - sqrt(x^2 + b) )^x = e^((a-b-1)/2) for any real a,b. The 2x needs the 2 because of the square root. Hope you make a cube root (x^3) version next >:)
@dusty13744 жыл бұрын
Before watching the video I’d say it’s 0 Because y-y=0 and 0^z = 0
@roxaneserine203 Жыл бұрын
Nice problem. But you can also get to the answer in only one line using the Taylor series.
@hadhad1297 жыл бұрын
My calc 2 teacher, I already graduated why am watching these (as in I have seen over a hundred) I guess masters here I come lol.
@thatoneguywiththatonename2 жыл бұрын
i have no idea why i'm watching this, but it's so interesting i stayed the entire 22 minutes
@egillandersson17804 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Nice work. Not really difficult, but you have to be very persistent and confident.
@oximas4 жыл бұрын
omg dude you are brUral with your algebra
@guythatdoesthings49353 жыл бұрын
I mean I knew it had something to do with e since (1+1/inf)^inf = e BUT WOW that was a trip
@RSLT2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful proof! Great job
@davidadegboye7735 жыл бұрын
I love the way he says square root
@C1864006 жыл бұрын
That was a very clever solution.
@ScholarStream_254 жыл бұрын
Hey black red pen do you practice the problems before coming on the video.If no then 🤯 u blow my mind by such clean mathematical operations with out much mistakes,🤟
@drpeyam4 жыл бұрын
Go Bears!!!!
@majestic_seal Жыл бұрын
lim as x -> infinity for (1/infinity) = 0
@theophonchana50253 жыл бұрын
lim x to infinity (square root of (x^(2) + 2x + 3)) - square root of (x^(2) + 3))^(x) = infinity
@shezanahmmed55823 жыл бұрын
An awesome limit I've ever seen. Love it.
@smhemant91117 жыл бұрын
Well you nailed it at the end, a lot of fun watching it.
@pullingrabbitsouttaahat4 жыл бұрын
This is an example of the Abuse of Lopital's Rule not the use of it. Watch This Video fo learn More About the abuse of Lopital's Rule : kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaekp6Obpq-ee9U
@ricl8858 Жыл бұрын
This is the type of question my Calc II teacher gives us on exams out of pure spite just because nobody went to his pratical classes towards the end of the semester (they were not worth it going to).
@wahyuadi357 жыл бұрын
Hi. You're so nice at math, especially on calculus. Can you do another video about algorithm? I'd like to see if you can do.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Wahyu Adi algorithm?
@maxmustermann3938 Жыл бұрын
At the step where we get 2x/2x, can we not just conclude that the bottom part is strictly larger than 2x (since we ignored some parts and the square rote is strictly monotone increasing) and thus conclude that we are approaching 1 from the bottom, and since we are strictly smaller than 1, the limit of that to X is 0?
@SeriousApache6 жыл бұрын
The limit of inside without any calculations should be 1, you can use Murphy's Law for it.
@akinextreme81362 жыл бұрын
Hahahahah
@Abhay05055 ай бұрын
What a brilliant sum ❤
@razor2infinity482 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video! Had a fun time watching because you made it easy to follow
@Andreyy983 жыл бұрын
One thing I find a bit fuzzy on such limit videos is why do we say = L, when we do not know if this limit converges to a value. Another thing is how we are sure L != 0 . If L = 0, LN operator would not work.
@adminguy7 жыл бұрын
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