Inflicting the Fastest Nydus Swarm Hosts EVER on GMs | PiG's Filthy Adventures #15 -StarCraft 2

Subscribe to PiG Casts! 🐷 I said I would inflict this pain onto others - and it worked better than I thought it would! Protoss especially have a lot of trouble dealing with my version of the Fastest Nydus Swarm Hosts build. If you want my notes they're in The Book of Filth 2.0: docs.google.co...
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[@PiGstarcraft]

To see where this madness began, watch my video explaining how I learned this stupid troll build: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqSqc3-YeLCiqtU

[@TremereTT]

what does Scarlett say about it?

[@Absolute_ZUNO]

Hi Pig. I'm Zuno, the opponent of this game. Thanks for the fun game, and thanks for using my build afterwards. I enjoyed watching your variations!

[@garnetg987]

Tried this build this morning against a 3k Terran… I received no gg. Great build, good fun

[@CPeyser08]

Yeah - Nyduses earn a lot fewer GG’s for some reason 😛

[@graverobber575]

​@@splitdimension8414 they arent ready for the worm. BUT THE WORM LOVES THEM. AND PERHAPS THEY TOO MAY LOVE THE WORM

[@danielbrannon8371]

I'm glad to see PiG has embraced his inner sewer mermaid, and started stabbing the corpse a bit after he's killed them. He maybe doesn't get demented with it and make it into a paste like Florencio, but he still kicks it a bit, spits on it and insults it's mother.

[@PiGstarcraft]

LOL

[@dirkbester9050]

Some kind of manmermaidpig!

[@danielbrannon8371]

@@splitdimension8414 maybe I was

[@Willdreynolds870621]

love that philosophy "my peers did it to me, now I'm doing it to you! its a vicious cycle" 🤣🤣🤣

[@jagk-du3yw]

Keep the salt flowing!

[@bonel0rd326]

The funny bit is that this strat is/was very common on the NA low metal ladders. Used to see it constantly in 2020

[@PiGstarcraft]

the metal leagues are where the real innovation happens :D

[@velocirapper]

Guess I'm gonna be playing against this for the next month on ladder...

[@inural]

One minute ago, wow I came in time! As a Zerg main I love builds like this, they help broadening the amount of strats you could play. Sometimes it feels like roaches are the only units you could build. Anyway, thanks for the video Pig!

[@swarmk5809]

i hate roaches ravagers swarmhosts

[@bonel0rd326]

Was common in 2020 but it used Double Nydus to bait away armies and create nydus loops

[@Greyscale884]

Lol literally had a game yesterday that went all the way to brood lords then all the way back to roaches

[@EsportsStoryteller]

The first victory was without a bloodshed xD

[@legoupil1819]

One probe, don't forget his sacrifice

[@brandonguthrie6511]

@@legoupil1819 Probes, being robots, technically can't shed blood.

[@lickenchicken143]

Very Sun Tsu

[@jkkim6928]

I wanna see Dark pull this on pro gamers

[@teeee8534]

you think dark stupid like you?HAHAHAHA

[@HiroTeaShi]

Amazing implementation of a very crazy BO. Keep on learning new ways to be a cheesy man. Edit: That zvz vs golden was insane. Absolutely bonkers

[@acquaintedfowl1767]

oh my god. i've been waiting for you to do this cause when i saw the build i really wanted to try it but chickened out!! haven't watched it yet but i'm SUPER HYPED. thank you for your lovely content pig

[@PiGstarcraft]

thnx fowl, hope you try it out it's a lot of fun

[@mikegamerguy4776]

Serral did a nydus queen rush vs a carrier rush he identified. I forget who he was playing but they were top tier. He simply dismantled that toss.

[@clee89]

serral vs maxpax maybe? kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5rGlYqjqrKol5Y

[@user-mv2nn6rw2w]

Since you already got a lair, if your early zerglings survive you might want to oviedrop them somehwere annoying so they don't notice your nydus. It's only 25/25 if you already have an ovie in place.

[@PiGstarcraft]

yeah the guy that did it to mee did that and it actually did lots of damage even as slowlings! Definitely something I'll add in next time I'm doing this

[@jessejames1590]

@@PiGstarcraft there is so much cool things you can do, you were supply blocked at 53/54 for a while...

[@pg8835]

its why you wanna try to clear up the lings first if possible since can scout/nydus vision / haras

[@jkobain]

The ZvZ game was like: - _I'm the host of the show!_ - _I can _*_host_*_ too, you know…_ Beautiful.

[@Night_Hawk_475]

I wonder if you could turn this into a more serious ZvP build by finding a good transition if your opponent doesn't go forge after they see the spawning pool. Switching into a different early aggressive build w/ more focus on traditional units - or if there's any other build you can think of to punish the lack of forge.

[@scanvil3766]

8:42 i love how, as soon as he planted the nydus, the music went into that swarmy theme

[@jessejames1590]

i think they may have little cues that the music can change to, i've noticed this before as well.

[@jkobain]

Your take on how to play competitive SC2 reminds me of natural selection. And I'm glad you're living through this with a huge smile, it is very inspiring. Thanks for the show!

[@abyssaldragon1099]

Origins of 'brick shithouse' : Back in the days before indoor plumbing, people would sometimes dig holes in the ground and put a seat on top, surround it with walls and a ventilating roof, and call it an 'outhouse'. As architecture evolved, the material used for these moved from wood to brick. Thus, brick 'shithouse'.

[@haoyang4801]

I love how you spit your tongue out when you're stressed out

[@faithful451]

A brick shithouse is actually an outdoor lavatory made of brick instead of the usual wood

[@drewskiwest5284]

lol @ 2:01 "wha wha wha whaooow!" alright neeeeaow owen wilson sir ceaaaalm deoooown neeooowwrr

[@masonwater292]

the original one base swarmhost nidus player you encountered use the overlord creep puking to create the wall

[@Hephera]

He also didnt try to drop "hidden" nydus worms INSIDE Pigs base because the whole point of swarmhosts is that locusts can fly so you dont have to put the worms inside the enemy base where they can be killed. You just put them outside and fly the locusts in. If youre not doing that you may aswell just put normal units into the nydus..

[@Compulsive_LARPer]

Good catch, mate. Every inject counts when going for such filth.

[@matth1005]

@@Hephera Getting the queens in adds DPS tho

[@Hephera]

@@matth1005 filling the worm with lingsand roaches instead of swarmhosts would "add dps" too. Thats not the point of the build. The point is that with swarmhosts you can beat people even if theyre good about scouting worms in their base. Risking having the worm killed just so you can get 2 queens worth of extra dps is stupid

[@PiGstarcraft]

@@Hephera overlord has longer vision than anything in their base so if I put it under the overlord and I can't see any buildings or units I know they can't see it. If I thought they'd shut it down I'd do it in a more conservative position. The closer you are the more time your locusts get inside the basee doing damage so its key to be as close as possible. GMs will often just run away from the first wave, wait for them to run out and go back to mining. So every second in there to do damage is key.

[@SvenThielen]

I've been waiting for this video since I saw that amazing match you had against this build... :D

[@DagAreHalland]

13 pool 14 gas 15 gas 14 lingsx2 16 queen 21 lair (keep producing queens afterwards) -> infestation pit -> nydus ---> swarm hosts

[@TheComicChild]

Very much enjoy your casts (been watching since you first said sewer mermaid) & especially this build. In marine voice: Outstanding! SUPER DUPER wanna see if second hatch is important in case the rush fails & VERY concerned of Terran counter to this build (*floating commands, medivac timing & hellions busting wall-off). Have not even Dreamed of zerg counters. Thank you for taking some of your watchers minds off of geopolitics & or "The Virus"/ "The Virus Counter Mandates". And eleven outta ten for channel thumbnails-audio-and showcasing the players who swear (and you keep it real, 87% ok for a 9year old). Up there with uthermal, taste-osis, harstem and winters channels. RIGHT UP THERE

[@PiGstarcraft]

Cheers mate, ty for the kind words

[@NatePaddock]

I saw this strategy years ago from Crank, but it was on a map where you had a second base behind your main and could wall off the entrance to your main. Never dreamed of making it a 1-base rush at the time!

[@timo539]

Do you know what you have done to us plat boys? Every zerg is doing this strat now

[@PrincipalSkinner3190]

I can never beat toss, so can't wait to try this.

[@booyawooya]

I am 0-4 against this build as a toss and it’s been making me mald lmao. Now I finally know why everyone is suddenly using this build.

[@MrTacoSr]

In more than a decade of watching starcraft 2 I have never seen a game like this 😂

[@nickerbocker1382]

Amazing, downloaded the book of filth, excited to try this build out as a low diamond zerg. Amazing videos as always!

[@eskurian8565]

That was glorious! I have been waiting for this since I saw your cast of the player that did the Platinum version of this. :D

[@tommyj3]

NICE! I actually use a 1 base nydus and can get 5 or 6 Roaches with a bunch of lings to back them up, and usually I can pop it in 3:15. It DOES melt peoples minds when it works. While I attack I upgrade Roach speed and keep loading roach/ling into it. It gets nasty.

[@stephencraig3176]

This build honestly looks surprisingly close to my old 1 base infestor harrash into broodlord build, love it as thought all these one base builds died without infested terran to distract!!

[@PiGstarcraft]

eyooo I remember that! That was a banger, trust you to be that far ahead of the meta Stephen!

[@oldwoody]

Been waiting for this video and it is fantastic

[@Compulsive_LARPer]

Also, you could try to optimize this Flo style, by setting some sort of insurance in case a game starts going like that ZvZ, and even summon Starlord to add a new entry to the Book of Filth. Like having a drone far away ready to set up a cheeky outpost instead of taking the natural (sending it as you are about to place the 1st Worm seems like a good time). Then, if the opponent manages to avoid critical damage and things turn into a base trade, you can immediately start using the Nydus to transfer and/or evacuate if needed. Maybe take the 2 extra gases right away or try to cut 1 SH in those scenarios, just to be able to squeeze the appropriate tech for the finishing transition. Place the tech out on the outpost or even under a hidden pooping Overlord (for extra style points if the expa happens to get scouted). Tap into your inner sewer mermaid, mate! The possibilities are endless! Love ya!

[@PiGstarcraft]

haha cool ideas

[@SamuelStokes1987]

Another valuable addition to the book of filth!

[@goodknight9627]

PiG, build 3 nydus heads, you can construst multiple nydus worms at a time

[@ryankeeping2761]

I’ve been crushing with this on the ladder!

[@kirktown2046]

Absolutely beautiful little build, how inspiring!

[@Pumpazilla]

Can you take spines through worm? and plant on his creep or is that not possible? haha

[@CPeyser08]

Been on a big Nydus kick recently. Nydus worms for everyone! 😛

[@catbert7]

You really protected that Spire for him! Sporting of you ;p

[@happyscrub]

never researching borrow baffles me

[@PiGstarcraft]

haha a lot of stuff to think about and VERY little money! Will add that in + ling drop next time I try it out

[@AtrociousNightmare]

Loved this so much. So entertaining to watch.

[@TheNathanCarlson]

This is even filthier than the fastest BC 😂

[@3X0SK3L3TON]

When 2 sewer mermaids swim with each other its always fun

[@SS_BAJA]

NO way that worked so fast, I gotta give that a try cuz I like never build swarm hosts

[@alexnoman1498]

Shouldn't the reflex counter against swarmhosts be Muta? Why did it take so long here?

[@johnp7158]

this was so enjoyable I had to subscribe! ty

[@marshallgarey2913]

That ZvZ was amazing.

[@javaskull]

I pulled this out one time… and won. I think if you full wall of on bases where you can take 2 bases instead of one it might be equally good.

[@Compulsive_LARPer]

Such a scummy build, mate. Loved it!

[@mrowniii]

Im doing this nydus build in 4s, always ultra effective.

[@angellestat2730]

Love this built.. do it again another time!

[@A_Simple_Neurose]

I used to play this in like, bronze. Really fun build.

[@Morvalax]

How to counter that kind of shenanigans in protoss?

[@trevorsmith8903]

What’s the soundtrack playing? When op thought you were reaper??

[@PiGstarcraft]

Sounds like Wings of liberty. All my videos are usually a select few tracks from Wings, Heart of the swarm, LoTV and brood war Terran soundtracks

[@Oktokolo]

Well, at least this time, they won't nerf the queens.

[@TheKlep]

How did Pig know it was a voidray being produced early in the 2nd game? Just based on timing? Still learning. Thanks!

[@LostOne44]

You can see the shadow in the Stargate.

[@259]

look inside the Stargate and you can see which unit is warping by its shape

[@NtrTainUs]

Love this

[@dylansevitt]

I just lost to this build 3 games in a row. Not really sure how I should hold this :( I think you need zealots or adepts patroling the outside of your base but still not sure if that is possible

[@hamburgers7817]

My goodness I would be so confused to see that opening, I'd be thinking its a bane bust or something or 1 base muta, 🤔. I would be so confused lol

[@bjovers1]

This shit is destroying on the ladder

[@scrubtronics6948]

I need moreeeee

[@DagAreHalland]

Need to see this vs terran.

[@SevereFaith]

thats sick =D

[@offthecouchmtb9523]

Thanks PiG….I’m now seeing this on the ladder. Thankfully it was in D3 and wasn’t super well executed, but super annoying to play against. I blame you for this being a thing for the next few weeks!

[@PiGstarcraft]

haha make sure you run probes away and counterattack hard to mess em up!

[@kittycatcpieqw7772]

Swarm host is probably my favourite unit

[@CorruptCrowley]

Love this challenge

[@erikkarlsson9192]

This is so dirty!

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

Third game is just abathur V abathur in direct strike. Swarm host fury.

[@ftlnetwork6067]

I fucking love this! Im a noob protoss but im going play zerg.🤣

[@l19h79]

15+ matches ZvP at diamond 1, 90% winrate, totally recommended xd

[@matszz]

11:30 So SC2 is a pyramid scheme of pain?

[@MsHojat]

How are you getting all these people that don't have scouter buildings at the cliffs where you hide nydus?

[@randovids]

That first game had a seriously blind protoss. Maybe ok most of the time? But just about any zerg 1 base would've won

[@MrSlaughterrific]

this is so sad, alexa, buff protoss

[@LostOne44]

So, would with Protoss is this Storm or something else? What is the Terrain built?

[@PiGstarcraft]

Just need to hunt down the nydus worms or counterattack the zerg base

[@LostOne44]

@@PiGstarcraft Sorry, not looking for the counter but what would be the Protoss/Terran version of this? Kind of how you made the $3X panther build for Zerg with Protoss having cannon rushes or Terran with a bunker.

[@pazopazo21]

achievement unlocked: ONE BASE SWARMHOST

[@bjovers1]

You should make a book of filth playlist 👍

[@PiGstarcraft]

My book of filth games are in the Starlord playlist! kzbin.info/aero/PLFUDU8AOevUdgwFMOURNP7usgPcvlBJRl

[@coruco7550]

GReat games¡¡¡ Time to cheese some Toss.

[@ryanj4475]

This happened to me in ladder zvz, how do you counter it?

[@teeee8534]

make sure your base has covered whole vision of your base, once u spotted nydus get rid of it, its a junk build seriously , it may work against zerg but it wont work against terran and protoss, unless the nydus area is not covered with vision, its a free win seriously..its a junk build

[@introprospector]

^ spoken like someone that got one base nydus'ed

[@teeee8534]

@@introprospector i encountered this for a few times, for first time i was like wtf is this, what am i suppose to do..but i figured it out and its easy..this build only for fun mode, if its failed, zerg will die in 3 minutes straight ...

[@Compulsive_LARPer]

Pool first for quicker Ling Speed, keep scouting and keep track of your surroundings with well placed Overlords. If you see a suspicious enemy Overlord chilling just outside Queen range, prepare to be active with your Zerglings to shut it down. You can leave some of them patrolling the area where the 1st Worm tried to pop and/or place a Spine if you are prone to F2ing. Also, set up a hunting control group so you'll have an easier time killing the next Nydus attempts.

[@lFat7onyl]

Is this the build from the Malaysian opponent the other day?

[@PiGstarcraft]

Yep, not sure if he was actually malaysian but was inspired by the guy that did it to me on moondance :)

[@lFat7onyl]

@@PiGstarcraft nice! Could easily be added to your most annoying playlist. You made people instaquit

[@BrewKnowURSA]

I hope to see this enter the meta... in pro tournament play. Like Reynor pulling this out against Showtime. #FanService

[@mrrrl795]

why are all these protoss going forge?

[@samae1829]

How dare PiG not kill the last few buildings before leaving in the second game. I am disappointed. I thought Florencio taught him better.

[@PiGstarcraft]

I'm a stinky pig, not a sewer pig! :P

[@samae1829]

@@PiGstarcraft Oh I am sorry, I forgot there is a fine line between those two :P Like the line Florencio walks between genius and madness.

[@jenius00]

I don't know how this got past KZbin's obscenity filter.

[@nickpelov]

This build is not really that new. I lost vs lower league oponent on korean and I was so angry that I've played it for 10-20 games with got 100% win rate at my zerg level (platin). I even get 50% win rate in diamon vs protoss. terran just stims and kills all locust.

[@vorkosigan-p6f]

Do you think we can see this in a pro game? Is that too much to hope?

[@PiGstarcraft]

haha unlikely, but Rogue used to like doing a 2-base version where he'd fully wall off with evo chambers etc

[@IMRifley]

My good sir, you have encountered and come to understand what is quite literally called an OODA loop. You have now learned the art of the quack-bang, or in this case, Locust-bang. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfQk2RnapiepqM

[@Cheng798536]

Dear my zerg diamond+ friends. Don't do this at home against toss vs open with voidray And Don't do zvt or zvz on ladder neither. Cheese zerg playing style is fun but losing isn't.

[@PiGstarcraft]

Works ok vs Voidray actually, just have to hide the first nydus nicely. Also works pretty good vs most Terran, admittedly because they don't know what to do vs it and make mistakes, but still had decent success with it vs 5k, 5.4k T opponents

[@doughnut4867]

🤦‍♂️

[@BlackCollar]

Disgusting. More pls.

[@poulthomas469]

This seems wildly unbalanced.

[@Faux.Player]

The opponent isn’t committing to scouting or attacking at all for the first 4 minutes. The first guy ran his prob through the mineral line. The trick to stopping this would be to get enough units to stop the first nydus in the main. Like pig said forget first isn’t good because it delays the first units.

[@Bobby.Kristensen]

Starcraft 2 is such a garbage game

[@teeee8534]

rubbish nydus rush swarm host build, it might work against zerg but against terran and protoss its a free win, just put building and get enough vision on your whole base this shitty tactic never works , its a free win

[@jkkim6928]

You high?

[@panzfaust9812]

okay serral

[@Laezar1]

The thing is that it works because opponent sees the early pool and starts turtling, which is terrible against swarm host. Yes it's easy to defend if you know what's happening, but the build itself tricks people into the wrong reaction

[@teeee8534]

@@Laezar1 exactly, as long you know what you're doing, this build is just a shit..trust me ..

[@Hephera]

That's because pig is doing it wrong. Yore not supposed to try hiding the worm in their base where they can kill it. The whole point of using swarmhosts instead of another unit is so you can put the worm in a safe spot outside their base and then fly the locusts in