INFOCUS: Women Wearing Tzitzit?

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Messianic Torah Observant Israel

Messianic Torah Observant Israel

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@sleeptalker6646
@sleeptalker6646 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for addressing this. I am not arguing, just asking for clarification. I know you addressed the "ben" being "sons" in this case (tzitzit), but is it not the same wording that is used in Leviticus 11 concerning the dietary laws? If so, I don't understand how a husband or father could be a woman's covering, otherwise women wouldn't have to follow Leviticus 11. I am open to correction. :) Again, thank you. Numbers 15:38 "Speak דַּבֵּ֞ר (dab·ber) 1696: to speak a prim. root to the sons בְּנֵ֤י (be·nei) 1121: son a prim. root of Israel, יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ (yis·ra·'el) 3478: "God strives," Numbers 11:2 Speak דַּבְּר֛וּ (dab·be·ru) 1696: to speak a prim. root to the sons בְּנֵ֥י (be·nei) 1121: son a prim. root of Israel, יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל (yis·ra·'el) 3478: "God strives,"
@mtoi
@mtoi 5 жыл бұрын
Great question. As Rabbi Steve has explained it in this video, the men were responsible with leading their households as part of the Creator's design and so a covering does not imply a shifting of complete individual accountability and a proxy for one’s actions (“My husband is eating clean therefore I don’t have to...”), but rather a covering is responsible for making sure to do the actions based in Torah - which in this case of tzitziyot, is remembering all the commands of the Almighty and not going after our own eyes and heart.
@sleeptalker6646
@sleeptalker6646 5 жыл бұрын
​@@mtoi I still don't understand the reasoning, but appreciate the reply nonetheless. Shalom!
@ghlandry1
@ghlandry1 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. You cant have it both ways. This generic term should include both sexes. This requires a proper answer from Steve.
@michaeljames5160
@michaeljames5160 5 жыл бұрын
it doesn't say you can't either...
@tom_olofsson
@tom_olofsson 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@katebrandnew
@katebrandnew 5 жыл бұрын
I like the information on the colours
@debrawilliams1527
@debrawilliams1527 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@IamOpenMindedRU
@IamOpenMindedRU 5 жыл бұрын
But the commandment says the children of..... are the ladies not included in that term? Just wondering.
@mtoi
@mtoi 5 жыл бұрын
Rabbi Steve briefly explains in this video that the women are included in that term in the sense of being covered by the men. (Think of how in many languages, a group of 1 man and 99 women is still described as a masculine term).
@IamOpenMindedRU
@IamOpenMindedRU 5 жыл бұрын
@@mtoi seems like a cop out because if it was just meant for males it could have been written "the sons" rather than "the children" seems with this commandment that rather than just follow as it is clearly stated most just follow "big brother". Thank you for your reply. Have a great day.
@sylaba2011
@sylaba2011 5 жыл бұрын
Abba has really put tasels on my heart few months ago, finally couple of months ago a made them and started wearing. My advice would be to just follow the Holy Spirit as he will lead you in the right direction. In Yahshua's name may Yah bless you abundantly.
@prudencehallett8294
@prudencehallett8294 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, FOR THE TEACHING
@jaycee157
@jaycee157 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this teaching.
@saxonisrael8398
@saxonisrael8398 5 жыл бұрын
Rabbi some people say we must "make" our own tzitzit to properly fulfill the commandment. What do you think?
@mtoi
@mtoi 5 жыл бұрын
You're definitely welcome to make your own, we have a tzitzit workshop here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZebdGx_h954eMk
@IamOpenMindedRU
@IamOpenMindedRU 5 жыл бұрын
They say that because if you read the commandment it says to "make". 38 “Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them to make tzitziyot 1 on the corners of their garments throughout their generations, and to put a blue cord in the tzitzit 1 of the corners. 39 “And it shall be to you for a tzitzit, and you shall see it, and shall remember all the commands of יהוה and shall do them, and not search after your own heart and your own eyes after which you went whoring, 40 so that you remember, and shall do all My commands, and be set-apart unto your Elohim. This is were the word make comes from. H6213 Original: עשׂה Transliteration: ‛âśâh Phonetic: aw-saw' BDB Definition: to do, fashion, accomplish, make (Qal) to do, work, make, produce to do to work to deal (with) to act, act with effect, effect to make to make to produce to prepare to make (an offering) to attend to, put in order to observe, celebrate to acquire (property) to appoint, ordain, institute to bring about to use to spend, pass (Niphal) to be done to be made to be produced to be offered to be observed to be used (Pual) to be made (Piel) to press, squeeze Origin: a primitive root TWOT entry: 1708,1709 Part(s) of speech: Verb Strong's Definition: A primitive root; to do or make, in the broadest sense and widest application: - accomplish, advance, appoint, apt, be at, become, bear, bestow, bring forth, bruise, be busy, X certainly, have the charge of, commit, deal (with), deck, + displease, do, (ready) dress (-ed), (put in) execute (-ion), exercise, fashion, + feast, [fight-] ing man, + finish, fit, fly, follow, fulfil, furnish, gather, get, go about, govern, grant, great, + hinder, hold ([a feast]), X indeed, + be industrious, + journey, keep, labour, maintain, make, be meet, observe, be occupied, offer, + officer, pare, bring (come) to pass, perform, practise, prepare, procure, provide, put, requite, X sacrifice, serve, set, shew, X sin, spend, X surely, take, X thoroughly, trim, X very, + vex, be [warr-] ior, work (-man), yield, use. So that is why people say you are to make them yourself.
@saxonisrael8398
@saxonisrael8398 5 жыл бұрын
@@mtoiThank you for your reply.
@sedsworld1672
@sedsworld1672 5 жыл бұрын
@MTOI But if the adult woman doesn’t have a male headship; father - deceased, nor a husband, and is single~ What then? If someone could help me with this please and thank you.
@mtoi
@mtoi 5 жыл бұрын
Its important for anyone not covered to make it priority to seek out a VETTED anointed appointed teacher/leadership to be their covering.
@sedsworld1672
@sedsworld1672 5 жыл бұрын
Messianic Torah Observant Israel Thank you for your response! If I may ask another question? If I consider MTOI my anointed and appointed teacher, (which I do 🙏🏼) is this acceptable over the internet? There isn’t a Rabbi close to me in proximity and I watch y’all every week throughout the week. I’ve done this for a year+. I’m nowhere close to finishing all the teachings but I am whittling the older lessons down every week. Some, most, I’ve needed to re-watch.
@peculiarpriscilla7777
@peculiarpriscilla7777 4 жыл бұрын
@@mtoi 😐 I need a covering then. I am going to be heading to Chattanooga next month. I am looking forward to fellowshipping with you guys. Can I discuss this topic with Steve at that time? I don't understand it.
@mtoi
@mtoi 4 жыл бұрын
@@sedsworld1672 If you consider Rabbi Steve your teacher and would like him to be your covering.. you would have to call and speak to him to find out what the details of what that means and what the expectations are. And then take it from there! 423-250-3020
@mtoi
@mtoi 4 жыл бұрын
@@peculiarpriscilla7777 Did you ever move down? And yes this is something you can speak to Rabbi about in person. :)
@Liamjoo7
@Liamjoo7 5 жыл бұрын
Shalom Steve just a comment for a former NYC/ Garment Center Textile person , this is not a correction but to stand on your shoulder's, I have done some research, do you know they had to use virgin wool , and you know how they get virgin wool , don't you? from ugly sheep , lol : ) just a silly old textile humor
@seekersofyahweh4362
@seekersofyahweh4362 5 жыл бұрын
OH BOY LOL!
@tikvahduesters6690
@tikvahduesters6690 5 жыл бұрын
yep I have to disagree on Steve's view of how to make the tzitzioyt. YAH leaves that open for us to choose how, just as HE does w/ the Shabbat traditions and the Moedim traditions.
@ravnwolf9907
@ravnwolf9907 5 жыл бұрын
tzitzits are on the garment of a man not a garment of a woman
@katebrandnew
@katebrandnew 5 жыл бұрын
I like the information on the colours
@katebrandnew
@katebrandnew 5 жыл бұрын
I like the information on the colours
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