Information Anarchy: A Survival Guide for the Misinformation Age - SANS CTI Summit 2018

[@ruexcited2WholeHearted]

The biggest big business in America is not steel, automobiles, or television. It is the manufacture, refinement and distribution of anxiety. - Eric Sevareid The bigger the information media, the less courage and freedom they follow. Bigness means weakness. It must be a truly miserable existence to work inside a dying “news” operation that considers its overarching job to be creating and maintaining a false reality for an ever-diminishing audience.

[@Jonathan-rm6kt]

brutal. i love it. However it's just being replaced by decentralized, fragmented false realities

[@craffte]

Except that they have their hands in many pies, (eg Viacom) and simply move among platforms. Smaller media can be just as much under the thumb. Easier to control the little guy. Local papers... The biggest business is making sure we spend all our time watching this crap instead of feeding the person next to us.

[@asecretturning]

Eh, probably a better life than being an impotent, second hand misanthrope.

[@dinikosama]

Ministry of Truth, 1984.

[@jukee67]

Excellent summary. Approach all presented to you as gossip unless you get to the actual source.

[@Jonathan-rm6kt]

Good presentation. IMO this is one of the top 5 most critical issues modern society faces. I don't work in Intelligence, but I am a data analyst/engineer and my primary passion is improving veracity on the internet and knowing, really *knowing* what is "true", especially in today's political climate. Can anyone recommend how I can learn more and become involved? PS - Please don't link me to any ridiculous flat earth or other conspiracy BS. I'm talking about actual projects

[@asecretturning]

Boghossian and Magnabosco are two names to look for, as well as the keywords of epistemology, street epistemology and philosophy of science. There are also great scholarly papers out there on cognitive distortions and bias.

[@TurboWorld]

Right on!

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

It's not a critical issue at all.

[@Jonathan-rm6kt]

@@Makingnewnamesisdumb great job, seems like you got it all figured out

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

@@Jonathan-rm6kt yes. Read shit, then verify for yourself if it's true with other research sources, especially if it sounds questionable to you, then misinformation will never be a problem for you. There's no need to give anybody authority to tell people what is or isn't true, it can only hurt people.

[@donnathedead7554]

Some interesting points and overall good speech. However, I couldn't help noticing she was guilty of some of the same things she warned about as well as other obvious signs of bias she failed to mention.

[@bootstraphan6204]

Spot on. Furthermore, she fails to cite any of the bibliographical information on the last slide throughout the bulk of the presentation and pawns off many of these uncited slides as originating in her own mind. Also, she mentions that what she practices is a "science" even though she is clearly in a systems management field. Whether or not she truly believes this or is being intentionally misleading is unclear. There are clearly some useful techniques for filtering out low quality information and misinformation at the individual level in the presentation, however, the presenter should have been far more thorough and professional about citing her research.

[@asecretturning]

Ya'll really don't get it huh

[@savagetruthercritic8646]

You don't say!?

[@craffte]

Ha! great name!

[@rogertheshrubber2551]

I guess I just have to ask if you mention this as a refutation or just as a note that even the people aware of misinformation fall prey to it?

[@digitalninja85]

The prob is, who's to say what constitutes a valid source? Im sure many people would consider the CDC or various other gov agencies reliable, yet in truth they have been proven to be anything but.

[@bootstraphan6204]

Great point! The authoritative objectivity of the CDC is compromised by the profit motives of the pharmaceutical businesses they rely on for funding (and has been for decades; not just post covid). 👍👌

[@digitalninja85]

@@bootstraphan6204 yes its just unfortunate that more people cannot comprehend this concept. They erroneously continue to consider all these corrupt agencies and authority figures (fauchi, gates tv news) as legitimate and completely trustworthy.

[@asecretturning]

Clearly not ya'll.

[@0MoTheG]

You have to have "common sense" and that takes knowledge and critical thinking.

[@digitalninja85]

@@0MoTheG yes but that seems to be in short supply now days. Rather than having or gaining knowledge on a matter and applying critical thinking, many people give their trust to certain popular news outlets to give the facts when in actuality they are mostly propaganda machines.

[@nandanugent]

Whispers, innuendo, rumours, and propaganda have always been part of life. Who is to say what is a bona fide source of information when the best we ever get is an opinion based on a subjective view.

[@416cubes4]

Nailed it. First thing I thought to myself is, someone’s video with a title involving miss information must be the miss info maker.. that’s how liars work..

[@asecretturning]

Ya'll have no relationship with reality, that's your problem.

[@casualgoats]

@@asecretturning drink that koolaid

[@paulroth6783]

Maybe...but there are such thing as facts. The earth is not flat. I don't care about your "opinion" on this, this is a knowable FACT. Which is a better color, blue or green, is opinion. So it's not true that ALL we get are opinions and EVERYTHING is subjective. Reality actually is knowable. But I will give you this much, we get WAY TOO MUCH opinion that passes as fact in some places.

[@Primal341]

@@paulroth6783 , we live in a universe of facts. The ant and the human can only assess facts available at their field of view. So, not even facts can be trusted to decipher truth. It's all a matter of perspective. And everyone is attached to their own perspectives and thus small subsets of facts. kzbin.info-DRd1bS89mo?feature=share

[@rasheenturpin]

Kinda weird she hasn't mentioned actually researching the information itself. Should we conclude water's not wet because it was stated by a disapproved source?

[@rabagoposada]

the real application is making a call on some drastic decision based on hearsay or rumors, wars are fought in the dark many times.

[@-tarificpromo-7196]

Disapproval is an associating affirmation of au4ity. Chemistry is not your strong I see. A contained solution can be identified stable yet the opposite is true. Truth is subjected to the matter of pre conceived circumvention.

[@thepeoplesgunny4180]

@@-tarificpromo-7196 Your subjective summation of universal truth is patently false despite your attempt to verbally camouflage it... water is wet.

[@Severe_CDO_Sufferer]

Is this what they call, trying to get ahead of a situation?

[@arizvisa]

Yep. Too late, right?

[@nickz9107]

So this might be just me, but isn't this just freshman level English course what sort of sources and language should I use in a research paper? I understand some misinformation is amateurish, but with professional sources of disinformation and lobbyists with publicists, You don't have anything better then we look for something written by someone with a college education and who doesn't display obvious cognitive bias? Maybe we should start looking with the understanding that we live in a landscape of professional data, opinion and information manipulation. We have no sources that are not stake holders in the bias that they are spinning.

[@Psychomancer_2024]

The fact that she has to vocabulary to call out the fact that news media/social media cut out qualifiers is absolutely glorious!

[@carlhearn108]

Hmmm. It would be interesting to see how this talk might have evolved to today.

[@rodneyburns243]

Yes... Dr.Stupids revelations may have a slight tinge to the color of this delivery of information. .

[@joshuapearson2217]

@@rodneyburns243 she sucks bro

[@asecretturning]

This was literally three years ago, wtf are you talking about 🤣

[@carlhearn108]

@@asecretturning I must not have been clear. What I was saying is, her talk would be very different if it were made today.

[@jimbrown402]

Half man, if not dead, half Winnie?

[@bootstraphan6204]

FYI- Not sure if the presenter is aware but... HEAT MAPS are really more useful for depicting data gradients across geographic or topological spaces (not so much for random matrices or whatever).🤷‍♂️

[@davidwilkie9551]

QM-TIME is pure-math relative motion sync-duration, so it is inherent upon us to "think for yourself" and "do not believe what you think" because resonant connection cause-effect is attached to the Mathematically determined constants, not confined by them forever. That's AM-FM Communication In-form-ation Actuality. There is a legitimate reason to employ those war veterans who have the instinct to know when they are at risk. For an enemy or situation to be dangerous, there's already intent involved, either by another agency or your own vulnerability, and "first know your Self", holistically, and "to your own self be true", which is a roundabout way of describing how we are programmed by our environment. Fix your own problems before suspecting others, if you still need to. Fun to imagine Sciencing Re-search in Humanities.. Good lecture

[@EcchiRevenge]

Very informative. Sums up VoA perfectly - anonymous source, "ourselves in a previous article" ...etc.

[@TurboWorld]

Thank you for taking the time to make this video for us!

[@jonbayssycomp2933]

Really great information thanks

[@toddfoglia1882]

Seems to be all about you.

[@416cubes4]

She nervous because she’s CIA miss info specialist or because she’s a hack?

[@savagetruthercritic8646]

She definitely wasn't hired due to nepotism or affirmative action....

[@theflamingone8729]

A lot of people struggle with public speaking.

[@philodonoghue3062]

After the Information Democracy follows the Information Oligarchy viz government including the Beltway and establishment media.

[@savagetruthercritic8646]

"TOTALLY not an anarchist," means you're an anarchist X-D X-D X-D Hey lady! Just tell everybody you're an Anarcho-Imperialist. Let them chew on that for a while. If they ask you what Anarcho-Imperialism is just say, "definitely not state sanctioned piracy!"

[@emlillthings7914]

LMAO!

[@slappy8941]

She talks a hell of a lot without getting to a coherent point at any time. I guess this is a demonstration of information anarchy.

[@noahwiliams7214]

I kept thinking I was watching a standup comedy routine

[@chadhiggins8397]

Good talk, enjoyed it. But if you want to go raise chickens, do it. You do you! 😁

[@rockym2931]

Down with HOAs.

[@arkhie9883]

Bicycle is an option.

[@savagetruthercritic8646]

Raising chickens is REALLY GOOD IDEA so....

[@rosemariecain]

"Clearly" is up there too.

[@theegreatestever2420]

Loving this and it's my second clip. Would also love a follow-up and thanks for the recommendation KZbin

[@BuddyLee23]

I am not sure KZbin is going to successfully receive and read your comment.

[@Apelles42069]

Could have had something better than the lazily misused terminology of "anarchy". The disinformation campaigns of our era are most certainly not anarchic machinations, but rather from a very intentional, systematic, and extremely insidious source.

[@alanpenny437]

So, she advocates bringing back the gatekeepers, that know better than us... let's go Brandon!

[@dionysusnow]

If by "gatekeepers" you mean bullshit detectors, then yes.

[@asecretturning]

Russian

[@lvanbriesen01]

At no point did she advocate gatekeepers. She's just putting out information to help people see how information/opinions can be manipulated. So we can think for ourselves with better information to back up those thoughts instead of falling for BS agendas.

[@Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting]

I dismiss out of hand anything emotive that fails to cite an original source. I don't particularly care about the source as long as the facts stack up and can be verified independently - which is what I'm hunting for when I snap to the source. If I'm active on a topic, facts which are problematic are reported back to the narrator for review. If the narrator fails to review and attempts to derail the conversation with sophistry, I know I can rest assured that I'm looking at an active propaganda or disinformation campaign. So I can afford to disregard this information or take appropriate action if I feel it's required. Again, the source doesn't matter to me. It's all about the underlying facts or, failing that, about the agenda and whether that agenda is actionable (in terms of countermeasures) because the disinformation game is a cult activity which has no borders and respects no national jurisdiction and this is how it is so effective at undermining social cohesion on the national scale (e.g. the "Domino Effect" - but the Nazis had been at this years before, the Eugenists before them and it's the going theme in religious, political and "therapy" cults of all stripes). So, when it comes to propaganda, the key question always revolves around agenda. Moreover, there's no point dropping the bottom out of one of these propaganda campaigns if something else is just going to take it's place. There is also the question of it's impact on positional analysis of the broader Goban of the global social network. Is it just a stone randomly tossed on the Goban by a clueless player? Is it a devious sacrifice? Is it a Tesugi? Is it a Ko? Is it Shicho? Is there a "Crane's Nest" in play? And, if it's even worth pursuing (and much of the nonsense from western sources isn't worth the time of day because the dynamics of the broader social Goban are lost on most of us) then the question is how to nail the basis for the agenda, not just for the particular snippet of information which may be only one of hundreds or thousands of diverse items of disinformation; i.e so in nailing one, another takes it's place. But, if you can nail the basis of the agenda, then they're sunk - and, in practice, the kind of psychopaths that run these campaigns know it which is why they nearly always try to derail dialogue with personal attacks when things take a turn down this road. It's also, very much, not about being right so much as being aware of the plays being made on the broader Goban of the social network and forming an understanding of how these plays interact to produce a collective outcome in terms of consequences and flow-on collateral impact. So long as you fail to up your game at this level, you'll always be playing catch-up after a campaign has recruited and indoctrinated sleeper agents; often after the sleepers have been activated when it is already too late to act.

[@fregwich]

What is a Goban? What is a Cranes Nest? Where can I read more about this, I’m fascinated. Thanks

[@asecretturning]

Kook klux klan going strong over here 🤣

[@savagetruthercritic8646]

Thank you for the free intelligence analysis training :-)

[@simplytheresaskiles100]

Your just tiresome. The one thing that has been lost in Western education is the ability to communicate. If you are going interact with broad audience condense that bullshit you just posted. You made a few good points, but I lost interest after a while. That post was worth a paragraph at the most.

[@Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting]

@@simplytheresaskiles100 Oh? And I thought that was just me! You are right about one thing. That wasn't intended for everyone. 🙂

[@stupidhat1779]

Anarchy = without leaders. What's the fixation with equating this with chaos?

[@elisabethseaton6521]

I had to check playback speed. To my surprise it was not sped up.

[@asecretturning]

I had to check the purpose of this comment. To my surprise it was completely meaningless.

[@monad_tcp]

6:08 I did it by mistake, published wrong information. Then tried to redact it. Don't need to say it wasn't sucesfull.

[@jessebrown233]

The fog of war just before an invasion.

[@mattobermiller5041]

An ancient religious text said it this way: "there will be wars and rumors of wars." This back in the day when the only way to move information was with a horse and rider or a runner. And well all know how (in)accurate rumors are. Rumors = fear because people seldom bother to gossip about things that don't cause some emotion.

[@stevenhines5550]

Claptrap

[@humdingermusic23]

Totally wrong use of the word anarchy on so many levels...

[@TheClintB]

Well since KZbin automatically played this video after a video looking at the contradictions they've been telling us about Covid, I am going to assume she's going to basically hint at trusting mainstream sources. No thanks.

[@billcollins7009]

Well, you know what they say about "assume"

[@donnathedead7554]

You don't have to assume anything, she already did it.

[@MrAnarchris]

I love anarchism

[@simplytheresaskiles100]

It's because you're a savage.

[@MrAnarchris]

@@simplytheresaskiles100 Thank you I also have many other admirable qualities

[@markbradley9084]

Civilians who think they know intelligence are like nuns who think they can teach sex ed long on theory short on practice

[@PrismSub7]

What caused you to become so interested in anarchy? Well, have you seen how cute chickens are?

[@monad_tcp]

19:24 not using any uncertainty wording, super cheeky, a big "red flag", as you would say. ba dum tss

[@hasanchoudhury5401]

She is overwhelmed .she needs to play Kazoo and raise chicken in her backyard. Turn off your computer. Peace.

[@timeWaster76]

She is a crack up.... and a GENIUS !

[@bootstraphan6204]

Your bar for genius is pretty low. You should set your standards higher because you're worth it. Geniuses don't get degrees in "Homeland Security" or "Cyber Security". These are systems management fields, not scientific ones, though they are very often pawned off as such I'm afraid...🤷‍♂️

[@timeWaster76]

@@bootstraphan6204 FYI, having worked in "Cyber Security" I can say without question ... the field is in filled with lots of freaking smart people. Scary smart. Not that i have worked for HLS but I know very well what the requirements are. They hire a whole array of workers with a variety of "talents". And believe me the scientific fields have their fair share of idiots. Moreover it doesn't have all that much to do with IQ to do science. Mostly science is a lot systems and data management ... that is just a fact. I guess you would be shocked at just how much science some one with an IQ of 135 can do. You ever heard the saying takes one to know one ... well I guess you ain't one.

[@dennismitchell5276]

1:32 in and she's speaking a foreign language.

[@bleekzaXXX]

She’s very smart but demonizes anarchy. I’d like to know her thoughts on A People’s History of The United States, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, War is a Racket & Shock Doctrine.

[@bleekzaXXX]

Oh, and Manufacturing Consent

[@Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting]

People who fear complexity demonise chaos. Information Anarchy simply ups the bar on analysis to the point where the dinosaurs can't cope while those of us who adapt and learn how to leverage the new opportunities can flourish. The fact that institutions are behind has made it a golden age for any individual willing to put a bit of elbow grease into the learning curve. I think the term used around the turn of the century was "disruptive technology". After all, levelling the playing field between individuals and institutions ultimately empowers the individual and forces institutions out of complacency.

[@craffte]

@ Mercurio Read More, I don't know if that is naive or optimistic.

[@jimbrown402]

Anarchy is supposed to be built on a gathering of wit against dominating forces, and this is not, but a growth of underground underground warlords. Fighting for Wrong behavioral patterns protects and builds corruption.

[@bootstraphan6204]

@@bleekzaXXX The presenter's whole job in cybersec / infosec is to act as a manager for a human filtration system of information and movements that threaten the status quo. All the books you've listed in your OP will probably end up in the banned books / ideas bin someday... a process the presenter will surely be more than willing to do under the pretext of "it's muh jerb". 🤷‍♂️

[@jimbrown402]

Everybody is selling out for their 25 minutes of fame. They will get it back. There is no right if everyone is is right. Climb the ladder of placement of slave master or die young. Third path compleats the fork. Is it the power that unifies?

[@zebwalton979]

Calling truth “misinformation”, while simultaneously getting ahead of a coming misinformation operation. Yeah... we see you.

[@bri4njeff3rs0n]

25:21

[@JetPackDino]

Analysis paralysis

[@IAMschizoaffective]

disillusioned.

[@jerrylion45]

Bla bla bla

[@kemonoyama2084]

Your sheep dipped!

[@casualgoats]

Blatant propaganda.

[@jmoore8319]

BORING!

[@asecretturning]

Sexism on full effect in these comments.