Downtown Detailing, Custom Hospital & University Campus

Downtown Detailing, Custom Hospital & University Campus | Cities Skylines 2

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@Infrastructurist 7 ай бұрын

I am at a slight loss with these zoning issues, so if you have any ideas what might be going on, feel free to share in the comments! UPDATE: With the helpful comments from you guys, it turns out the issue is caused by the Mixed Office Row Zone and Mixed Row Zone mods, which I have had to disable (and remove all the assets). I am thus able to fix it in the next episode, which I am working on right now.

@sokkenmakers 7 ай бұрын

New patch?

@ursmersmann6736 7 ай бұрын

I think you're seriously underestimating the effect your broken education system has. I'd guess that the outside connections and other mechanisms the Devs added to make the game more easy are trying to compensate. But it only makes sense that if only half of all eligible students gain a high school education they can't afford to live in the city at all no matter what density you build... Edit: you should also check the citywide affects your unique buildings have. I believe they stack so if you placed a large number of the same unique building that might also break your city...

@PeterFurtner-q4e 7 ай бұрын

Your tax is too high!

@Infrastructurist 7 ай бұрын

That might be the case Ursmersmann - It's going to be interesting to see if more education will fix or alleviate the issue, because currently companies don't really have any issues finding highly educated workers. I could do some tests to see if those highly educated workers are primarily commuting from outside connections though :-)

@Infrastructurist 7 ай бұрын

@@PeterFurtner-q4e Taxation isn't the issue - the current rate is noted as a plus when I check zoning effects :-)

@jjknovacane 7 ай бұрын

I think fixing the education problem will resolve most part of the population growth problem, you could build a campus right outside the city mixing college and university and since you have so many assets of smaller elementary and high schools you should plop them around the city

@emcuks11 7 ай бұрын

In the port you should create a short bus line that collects people from all around the port factories and offices and brings them to the trainstop next to the new offices. This would relieve traffic as people could just travel downtown with a train and then a bus to their job.

@luke5837 7 ай бұрын

"can you go be homeless somewhere else?" Spoken like a true real estate developer! 😂

@nealjroberts4050 7 ай бұрын

Dezoning might help in case they're confused their house might get rebuilt 😆

@reeganmestre9521 7 ай бұрын

I really love the idea of integrating university assets into other buildings. Maybe you can add another university building around the shipyard , it’s big enough to look like a warehouse and then you can add some low cost housing in the area to incentivize people moving to those areas.

@jonathanvandenklaassenvrie4022 7 ай бұрын

Good idea, and maybe a mueseum and an art school!

@highground66 7 ай бұрын

57MINUTES OF RIVERVIEW. This day couldnt end better

@nathanbell2618 7 ай бұрын

You should honestly build 2-3 college / university's around the greater metro area. There is plenty of lore you can build into the builds and tons of precedent in the US for that many in a major metro.

@yourmumspatron3585 7 ай бұрын

May I suggest you replace the surface painted parking at the hospital with a multi-storey parking garage. It would suit the high density needs of the city and look nice and flush next to all those big buildings. It's also what is usually done in real life and provides a direct channel for ambulances to reach any floor of the hospital.

@nauji 7 ай бұрын

Now that you have a great new hospital, it's time you change up the clinic that's right in front of it !

@melissaharris3389 6 ай бұрын

I'd use anarchy to place it next to/ within the footprint of the hospital.

@dezwollenaartjes 7 ай бұрын

4:55 Tip for aligning buildings with roads when you don’t want to snap to them: the game saves the last thing it snapped to as alignment, so when you enable snapping, snap to a road and move your mouse to the UI a without letting it snap onto anything else it will just save that alignment when you turn off snapping. Much more accurate and a lot faster.

@theevilmoppet 7 ай бұрын

If you want to make the medical university idea a bigger part of the city, I'd recommend taking a look at Rochester Minnesota. It's a pretty similar city to what you're going for with Riverview, I think, and its current state is very much defined by the famous and extremely high quality Mayo Clinic facilities. The clinic is actually investing a bunch of money in building up the downtown right now, I think.

@BlazingsNL 7 ай бұрын

The parking around the hospital is like 5/10 American. You could add so much more concrete instead of that nasty green stuff you need to maintain ;) Maybe it's a good idea to add a direct bus line to that place from the station. I'd also love to see some cinematic shots of the city in the dark!

@thegaelicgladiator665 7 ай бұрын

I think the city needs to have what we in Ireland would call a council estate or a social housing estate... Which is when we build a full neighborhood of cookie cutter terraced single family homes which are designed in a way that everyone gets their own small house but its relatively dense to reduce urban sprawl but keep people happy by providing SFHs... The areas are also designed to be walkable but dont make the mistake that Southill made in the 80s and build 2000 houses but pretty much no public facilities or commercial zoned areas

@bluered9350 7 ай бұрын

One thing you could do is set up a gondola, Portland OR has one and Denver CO is looking into setting one up in the future. Also, There is a blog called Denver Infill that has been tracking development in Denver for years now and you may get some good ideas from those guys. They are from a local university's urban planning department.

@jflooby 7 ай бұрын

I’ve had some success with welfare offices helping out with residential demand when the cost of living starts becoming a problem

@jursz6938 7 ай бұрын

I love the new hospital, but I believe right next to it is also a health clinic. I dont know if its needed but couldnt that just be deleted to render the new hospital more useful? On 6:37 on the right side

@superafins 7 ай бұрын

"Just noticed these displaced homeless people whose homes I've demolished aren't going anywhere. That's quite annoying." Every conservative mayor ever.

@solal_ww 7 ай бұрын

22:25 I've refrained myself from comenting on how weird I find it that your pavement perfectly meets the parking spaces... which I thought was mostly for the sake surface snaping convenience... But now you think having them bigger is weird ?! I am pretty sure that is how it's done everywhere irl xD

@solal_ww 7 ай бұрын

Especially in the US they don't skimp on concrete

@thejoker3151 7 ай бұрын

I think you should add more vanilla service buildings. The harbor would for example be a good are for the large fire station, as it has very dense industry and a nearby highway

@moparmeanmachines9194 7 ай бұрын

*Displaces tons of families from their long standing homes* "them just standing here is quite annoying. Can you go be homeless somewhere else please" Ahhh yes, the diplmoat 💀

@morricansoupkids 7 ай бұрын

This killed me 😂

@Phayvour_ICT 6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@hemalalwani3544 7 ай бұрын

Every district in a metropolitan has different issues so I suggest you should put some entertainment in the city for citizens and check district wise all household and make a aggregate of it so deal with average issue

@circlePulse 7 ай бұрын

A custom police and/or fire headquarters would be soo cool!!

@klotznachklotz 7 ай бұрын

When he sad: “the architect went crazy”, I instantly got the little John music in my head… (min. ~14)

@theorixlux 7 ай бұрын

youtube allows linkable timestamps by using the hh:mm:ss format. Example: 14:32

@filipbogusz 7 ай бұрын

I think that you have to wait it out until the Economy 2.0 patch is released and then fix the population/demand/jobs issues, as when the patch comes everything you do rn is going to be unbalanced anyway.

@morganjsmith1710 7 ай бұрын

The build reminds me of St George’s University London/St George’s Hospital

@christianfelipedossantossi378 7 ай бұрын

You've created a Frankenstein monster building, and i love it

@melissaharris3389 6 ай бұрын

Real hospitals tend to be Frankenstein's as they're added to, expanded and updated over time.

@CDiPaola04 7 ай бұрын

The hospital in my city is located close to the downtown and has a parking garage attached by a skybridge to the lobby. I think that would be really cool to include into a downtown medical center without much space for parking lots, perhaps not for Riverview but a future city! (Are parking garages in the game? I assume not, but maybe one day?)

@theo-avl 7 ай бұрын

Murals on the big white walls of the hospital might be nice.

@bjroo 7 ай бұрын

You could call the new neighborhood Luxuria to try and entice people to move in 😉

@LuizPauloMedeiros-dj3xk 7 ай бұрын

A good way of distress this central station would be do some regional hubs of transport in the regional centers

@BigKy-Mart 6 ай бұрын

This hospital theme for a big American city is VERY Cleveland Clinic / University Case looking and I'm here for it!

@Whyaford 7 ай бұрын

I think you should move the intercity tram deported and roadside deported to the outside of the cbd and use the new space for a new development

@stevengalloway8052 7 ай бұрын

Perhaps the most realistic-looking CS2 cities you have. Very good work... 👍

@bjroo 7 ай бұрын

I feel like hospitals usually have large murals on them so you could use those new murals

@kslart8174 7 ай бұрын

Not sure if it's been suggested, but adding a few smaller, specialized medical buildings in the same style as the old hospital wing in the smaller spaces surrounding the hospital (i.e. podiatrist, dentist, physio, psych) would be a nice addition. While the hospital has extensions that look more modern, having a handful of older properties in the immediate area might help sell it even more. I'm not sure if we have assets to do it or not. Thanks for the content, I'll be jumping back into CS2 with mods soon thanks to you ^^

@S-54_ 7 ай бұрын

The practice clinic , it's not an extension of the hospital. And can you make some villages in the mountain range

@dankindasucks 7 ай бұрын

Homeless people just standing outside on the pavement after their house is demolished seems to be a bug. They used to just move out, but recently I demolished a whole neighbourhood in my city (To make way for a motorway, dont @ me) and they've just been stuck on the pavement for months now, had to bulldoze them with the better bulldozer mod.

@bjroo 7 ай бұрын

You could probably delete the little health clinic right by the hospital if you wanted to

@TheSpangster 7 ай бұрын

I would say it could help to force building smaller low density homes for less cost of living at least for those people, same with row houses. Also I assume there is something like a welfare office that could rather help with the cost of living issue. Also the lack of entertainment and the crime could be 2 things to be improved as both still seem to be a big issue...

@FigureInMind 7 ай бұрын

This happens alot knocking down house for a hospital. Glad to see it done. Relocated the old hospital across from the new hospital.

@minotaursgamezone 7 ай бұрын

glad you combined the two! first?

@YukonAdmiral 7 ай бұрын

Still hoping to see a custom fire and police area in the future!

@gavin-721 7 ай бұрын

Maybe deleting the clinic across the street would help with the big empty hospital

@FurryWrecker911 7 ай бұрын

Infrastructurist: _Adds helipad_ The crust of the earth: And I took that personally

@jorgedasilva2054 7 ай бұрын

I subscribed a month ago and love this series ❤❤

@Phayvour_ICT 6 ай бұрын

I felt sad for that homeless fella

@mitsuya_mi 7 ай бұрын

Infrastructurist, I really love your videos. high picture quality and great detailing of cities are style and nobody do this like you! but I really really want to see not only American type cities! it will be the best thing I ever see if you'll build something European for example. I know there aren't bicycles lanes or good quality pedestrian infrastructure etc in cs 2. but I know you can make most of the things yourself!

@dummyxl 7 ай бұрын

If you don't want trees on trees, disable that left blue icon. (I think you eventually did btw) And i think that you could move the hospital with move-it after placing the helipad. Maar verder lekker bezig 🔥

@lordsleepyhead 7 ай бұрын

You should check out the UMCG university hospital in Groningen, NL. It's a large plot of land right up against the city centre, chock full of buildings spanning over a hundred years, employing over 13,000 people.

@Endureth 7 ай бұрын

I like turtles.

@BrokeHungarian 7 ай бұрын

Guess we're on the same boat then.

@tidianeberthier1797 7 ай бұрын

I liked it too but especially with salt and mustard

@theanarchist4312 7 ай бұрын

Choking on plastic

@prestongarvey7014 7 ай бұрын

I like trains

@Gaming-With-Raymond 7 ай бұрын

I like feet

@tomascampos7872 7 ай бұрын

the living problem is maybe because you have to create a few college buildings, the demand for lowcost residencial will activate, remember the devs dairy that the new patch want low residential houses with schools nearby, i think that will resolve some issues

@larschristianlundstrseth3028 7 ай бұрын

Your population problems will not be resolved until you meet all the education needs in the city. I've built many 250k+ cities in CS:II and until education is resolved the population will keep going through these cyclical troubles of growth and degrowth. It also will halt the growth of high density and office demand.

@sarthak_vnair 7 ай бұрын

You are amazing please do post many more of this!

@Jan-lj6ej 7 ай бұрын

People actually only count as a citizen of the city when they reached the house for the first time. That way it sometimes takes a lot of time when they have to get to their house from an outside connection. If you click on some people their status is "Moving in" and those don't count as citizens. That's why theres usually a delay between zoning a building and it actually having people live in there.

@michaswitua5891 7 ай бұрын

i think you should play with seasons on, it would be nice to see the city in snow or with yellow leaves

@coelthomas 7 ай бұрын

You should build a university campus outside the city with all its own services like health centers, police, student housing, offices etc.

@nilhock2072 7 ай бұрын

This university could be like the ETH and University Zürich. They have their historical campus in downtown Zürich, but their medical school is right by the famous Unispital (University Hospital). The Rest of the Campus is located on the outskirt of the city.

@tobbakken2911 7 ай бұрын

You have a small hostpital right by the new big hospital. Maybe delete that?

@juris6878 7 ай бұрын

Lovely Build but honestly i like the old grass theme more

@nihal5634 7 ай бұрын

Maybe you could try tweaking the taxes on high and mid residential to fix the demand. It's also possible the special buildings are affecting demand.

@dagronborm2055 7 ай бұрын

can you please use the parking garage instead of the parking lots in the city? You almost never see that many lots that are that big.

@markmir6141 7 ай бұрын

you need public transportation in the 3rd city

@Williamnesbit-qv1qr 7 ай бұрын

I couldn't have waited any longer for an update on Riverveiw

@tiagocorreia1690 7 ай бұрын

You have population issues because of the Mixed Office Row Zone mod. It's a bug causing homelessness.

@Infrastructurist 7 ай бұрын

Hi Tiago - thank you so much for the comment. It helped me do some debugging and it seems that both the mixed office row zone mod and the mixed-use row zone mod is causing the issue. I am now able to fix it, thanks!

@adishrinivasan7398 7 ай бұрын

@@Infrastructurist Did you have an issue with empty buildings after deleting the mod? I had the same problem as you, deleted this mod, and now notice that although my population numbers have recovered, very few of my residential units have any people in them. So, I have a city of 400,000 with only 1169 occupied units. Any ideas?

@JaysonMorrison-b8u 7 ай бұрын

I think this city need a center piece building, something that tops the skyline like the sears tower in Chicago. Otherwise beautiful build!

@adriannn1180 7 ай бұрын

You asked a few episodes back about what to do if you decide to remove the small river around the inner Riverview city areas... An actual sunken highway could be nice, would also fix some of the traffic issues you have had for a long time over the main bridge into Downtown... also if you have space, put down more zoning, free time activities, and parks in the mix as well... again a sunken highway would be the best because then you can have bridges going across sorta connecting the inner and outer city areas better... About the zoning issues, i sorta get the same thing... what i do is just let the simulation run for a bit (yes might loose some citizens) but eventually the demand and everything will go up, and it'll let you build more houses, etc. which in the end brings more people back into your city... but idk rly hopefully the reworked economy fixes it, fingers crossed!

@anirudhp1104 7 ай бұрын

Can you start a hill station kind of a thing with those mountains? Like with the hairpin bends and fancy resorts?

@MillanSingh 7 ай бұрын

Fwiw, I love this series overall, and I think a lot of your builds are really cool, but I think this one really missed the mark. I know I may be on an island here, but I also put a lot of emphasis on builds being functional and not purely cosmetic, and this build had a lot of cosmetic-focused development (mixing non-functional buildings together to build the campus). I know that you didn't want to carve up too much of the downtown (which I totally get), but I would've liked to see more of a combination of functional structures (without overlapping). Maybe even just using the hospital and a smaller college/university and then creating a larger education/medical complex on the outskirts of the core metro area where you have cheaper land for eminent domain. Just my opinion. I will still keep watching the series regardless and obviously don't expect you to go back and change any of this build, but maybe to keep it in mind for future builds.

@TheNowerianRaven 7 ай бұрын

Like two sides of a coin. 1) I dont want to detail one area too much to keep the game playable 2) Im gonna terraform and detail a mountain that takes up a significant portion of the map in the future.

@citieman 7 ай бұрын

What mods do you use so I know what ones to use

@who_is_artis 7 ай бұрын

they're in the description

@MayorDesu 7 ай бұрын

I just realized, winter at the transit hub would have been pain. The cold + right next to the water T-T

@antorseax9492 7 ай бұрын

Are you able to change the colour of the university roof tiles?

@user-th3vr1oi8k 7 ай бұрын

Cause all this new development I feel like you said cut taxes and leopard running for a couple of weeks for your reboot taxes to usual because all this new development what you're doing put some new house and down then put some house and down lower taxes let it auto player and then reborn up the tax encourage birth rate😊😊😊😊

@TheBladedMarshmallow 7 ай бұрын

When is Newhaven county coming back?

@crisp_0o 7 ай бұрын

19:08 Proper American city

@Ja13nBruns0n 7 ай бұрын

Love it

@tyeueyu 7 ай бұрын

trees look so real

@chrisw443 7 ай бұрын

"Well we can just take out a couple homes." *10 minutes later* "Who are these people.... Ohh.... Homeless...." "Lets get back to that garden!"

@itsme-ket 7 ай бұрын

Wait… there is literally a medical university campus, why not use that?

@Morkeoth 7 ай бұрын

Nice video as always. Though - I'm sorry but the implementation of the Medical Research Institute inside the Hospital and the 'university' ... it's quite ugly. :/ As for the structural problem, it's maybe education level of people. Since you have put so much building manually at high level a lot of people cannot work at those places because they don't have the education level for that.

@justmeagainjajaja 7 ай бұрын

Nice video. I really liked the way you used the assets. I have a question. There are some mods that dont load, I restart the game, but it doesnt work anyway.

@Saurion1 7 ай бұрын

The helipad did cause some terrain issues in the backyards of the people across the street tho. It's been bugged since day 1.

@heathkinzer7772 7 ай бұрын

Your refusal to just spam public services kinda infuriates me, but it’s also so respectably realistic!

@gp5313 7 ай бұрын

Since you put the big hospital, you could place the small one elsewhere

@frankdewilde1055 7 ай бұрын

Maybe lower taxes?

@Medicenbeltran 7 ай бұрын

How did you get those University buildings?

@fazesama8567 6 ай бұрын

Did this city have a airport already?

@konstiiii 7 ай бұрын

I think you have the same problem like me in my new city. It's some kind of problem with the mods, but I coudn't find the mod causing it. I tried to run the game without RealisticDensity and a few other mods. And I couldn't find any solution on the internet. But it might be the assets for schools etc., since the problems have been occurring since then.

@Infrastructurist 7 ай бұрын

That is very interesting! I assume you haven't found a solution yet? :-)

@konstiiii 7 ай бұрын

@@Infrastructurist Now I found the problem. It's one of the Assets from Washi776!! I can't tell which one, but deactivated all of them and now the population is growing again. If I have time tomorrow I could check each one to find the one causing the bug.

@konstiiii 7 ай бұрын

@@Infrastructurist I found the problem causing mod!!! It's one of the Washi776 Asset Packs. Not sure which one, but if I have time tomorrow I could try to find out exactly which one is causing the problems. But for now, you have to deactivate the mods and then delete all broken buildings. In my case shortly afterwards the population increased again.

@konstiiii 7 ай бұрын

So I tried a few combinations with the Row Zoning. I think you can use "More Education Buildings", "Corners for row zones" and "Row Services Pack" without any concerns! I think "Mixed Office Row Zone" with "Mixed Row Zone" could cause you problems! But it's hard to say exactly what the problem is since I can't get it replicated.

@Infrastructurist 7 ай бұрын

Hi Konstiiii - thank you so much for the comment! You are completely right, both office row and mixed row are causing the issue in Riverview, and I am now able to fix it, thanks!!

@taheradenwala304 7 ай бұрын

How he has a port?? Mountain village doesn't have ports right?

@Alex.tmpltn 7 ай бұрын

Really like the modern hospital buildings spliced together but the old university building looks odd. Was better with the first building you then deleted. Maybe just have them not spliced together ? Or find a modern looking university ?