Ingrid Bergman on Being Deemed Dangerous For Having A Child Out Of Wedlock | The Dick Cavett Show

Dick Cavett welcomes Swedish actress Ingrid Bergman who discusses how she made some of the big decisions in her life and what it was like being deemed dangerous for having a child out of wedlock.
Date aired - November 8th 1978 - Ingrid Bergman
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Dick Cavett has been nominated for eleven Emmy awards (the most recent in 2012 for the HBO special, Mel Brooks and Dick Cavett Together Again), and won three. Spanning five decades, Dick Cavett’s television career has defined excellence in the interview format. He started at ABC in 1968, and also enjoyed success on PBS, USA, and CNBC.
His most recent television successes were the September 2014 PBS special, Dick Cavett’s Watergate, followed April 2015 by Dick Cavett’s Vietnam. He has appeared in movies, tv specials, tv commercials, and several Broadway plays. He starred in an off-Broadway production ofHellman v. McCarthy in 2014 and reprised the role at Theatre 40 in LA February 2015.
Cavett has published four books beginning with Cavett (1974) and Eye on Cavett (1983), co-authored with Christopher Porterfield. His two recent books -- Talk Show: Confrontations, Pointed Commentary, and Off-Screen Secrets (2010) and Brief Encounters: Conversations, Magic moments, and Assorted Hijinks(October 2014) are both collections of his online opinion column, written for The New York Times since 2007. Additionally, he has written for The New Yorker, TV Guide, Vanity Fair, and elsewhere.
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[@TheDickCavettShow]

What's your favourite moment from the Dick Cavett Show?

[@Luzanne.]

The Katharine Hepburn interview hands down.

[@sweeney60]

The Bette Davis interview!

[@charleswinokoor6023]

I liked his interview with Hitchcock.

[@FullHouseFanatic]

What a graceful, intelligent, and beautiful woman.

[@ramencurry6672]

Gorgeous lady

[@tomsampson8084]

I just watched Casablanca for the 100th time yesterday. She was such a beautiful person.

[@karengrimes980]

Having had a baby and divorced in mid sixties, i recognize the hypocrisy of that era. Such a gracious, beautiful talent; she blessed us...

[@Steph-lc7hy]

Times have changed dramatically

[@stutzbearcat5624]

You had a baby in your SIXTIES?? Are you in the Guinness Book?? Cuz ... DAMMM!!

[@Celisar1]

Well, she was married at that time, still raising eyebrows today.

[@globalspiritualrevolutionmedia]

Still so very beautiful in her later age.

[@nossenos16]

When she is mentioning her son Robertino asking her to put down her memories in writing, you can tell she is tearing up a bit. She was quite ill from cancer at this point. I don’t know if she knew that her time was limited, but anyhow it’s very moving to watch this interview.

[@ronmackinnon9374]

She died on her 67th birthday, August 29, 1982.

[@motherearther218]

I had my kid out if wedlock and we have out married those legally married after we even had kids. I say if you can have a kid and be married without paper and loyal for 18 years then get married. As a Christian I am not accepted when I openly disclose we are so married we didn't sign papers. Then people get defensive like I am so stupid. If my man's gonna cheat he's gonna fo it, no paper or legal tie will change that. When one of us dies we have that legalized like a business, as marriage is one.

[@Celisar1]

She died 4 years later, so she couldn’t have been „quite I’ll“ here already.

[@margeshilling7983]

She could have had an abortion as many other female stars did but she chose to have the child. I admire her courage. She was a very great actress -"Gaslight" was a favorite of mine.

[@tennesseegirl5539]

One of my favorites! Great actress! She was beautiful!

[@RivaG]

I had to turn my volume all the way to hear this- just letting you know- thanks- love Ingrid

[@Pgschool37]

Thanks, I cleaned my ears earlier so I thought it was the wax build up.

[@vaseemhadi8870]

Even back during that time, everyone in Hollywood was sleeping around, getting divorced, living in sin, etc. I don't see why they gave her a hard time about it

[@frostylunetta]

😢 Hollywood was so unfair to Ingrid

[@nelixsulu6201]

Hypocrites

[@dreasbn]

Yep same thought how she be treated that bad compared to the Reyolds Fisher Taylor thing.. just as one example

[@jayham____fromgeorgia]

she's brilliant.. a truly great artist

[@steveconn]

My great grandad got to do a scene with Ingrid in Inn of The Sixth Happiness. I'd like to find her portrayal of Golda Meir again (Loretta Young had Clark Gable's child out of wedlock; the child was spirited off and not introduced to Young until her teens).

[@pjk9056]

I believe that Young raised her from infancy but tried to pass her off as adopted. As the child grew, their resemblance was so strong that the pretense became ridiculous but it was kind of an open secret that press ignored. She only met Gable once which is a shame on him and for him as he died when his final wife was pregnant with his only other (known) child.

[@piustwelfth]

Her story is cut off at the end. The reason "Ti amo" in the letter was significant is because the press made a big deal out of it. They interpreted the letter as an infatuated Ingrid coming on to the Italian director. The media was ferocious in its attacks on Miss Bergman, in large part because she had a reputation as an innocent young woman and had played nuns in her Hollywood films.

[@benleung6331]

There are a few factors that caused such an overwhelming (and overblown) negative reaction from the US public to Ingrid's affair with Roberto Rossellini besides bearing his child out of wedlock 1) They were both married to another person at the time 2) Ingrid was number 1 box office star in US, famously playing virtuous women of various kinds (nun/saint). Thus the affair was a huge shock to her public persona 3) Ingrid was a foreign import to Hollywood who rose to the top due to, in the public's mind, the open arm of the US audience in accepting her. Thus it is an ungrateful act to turn her back on Hollywood. 4) Finally, as Ingrid's daughter Pia Lindstrom has pointed out, the affair happened just after the end of WWII. For Ingrid to run to the arm of Rossellini, someone from Italy, very much triggered the lingering resentment toward the Axis powers

[@KatinkaWallner]

And we always loved her here in Sweden - never banned of course!💕💕

[@TommyChardonneret]

Dearest aspirationally sweet and deplorably naive Katinka Wallner, the Swedish Press at that time EXCORIATED Ingrid Bergman for casting shame on the international image of Das Faderland, Right Wing Press controlled Sweden, you uninformed FOOL you!

[@GeeBee909]

Ingrid became Hollywood's real life Joan of Arc. Not fair what they did to her.

[@bnic9471]

Those were the times, though. And such standards will probably come back again.

[@mbayatab4326]

Joan of Arc was a military leader who had the honourable task of leading the army to defend her homeland against foreign invaders. In no way can Ingrid Bergman be compared to Joan of Arc.

[@GeeBee909]

@@mbayatab4326 I am NOT talking about a historical comparison, I am referring to the punishment she suffered. Like Joan of Arc, the "crime" did not fit the punishment

[@TeresaLevy]

Thank god you wrote that book! Your children profit from it and so many of us

[@boblowney]

the embodiment of legend. and we are so lucky to still have her daughter with us.

[@Luzanne.]

“I should be so lucky to ever look as beautiful as Ingrid Bergman. On her worst day, she’s more beautiful than me on my best day,” she noted before making an apt but possibly unpopular observation: Bergman, a Swedish siren, stunned on the silver screen, but offscreen was about as glamorous as a German hausfrau. (Entschuldigen Sie bitte. Ich bin Deutsche).

[@Luzanne.]

💯

[@GoldLeafPress]

I think it’s badass of her that she went against norms and went along with her pregnancy. Alooooooooooot of women had to get abortions by their own decision or the corporations forced them to abort but she went along with it. Like damn imagine being a women and being feared and having people feel threatened by you because you.chose.to.go.against.norms. Like she broke the mold/ice for other women standing up to men, senate and just life

[@kamuelalee]

A great lady!

[@Pgschool37]

This is amazing to see. The headline should partially read: "When Cancel culture previously known as blackballed was and still is a thing"

[@SormehGaming]

Perfrct style of a woman.

[@ianbentley7276]

she's 63 hear, a really beautiful woman in her early films.

[@charleswinokoor6023]

hear?

[@janedmunds4218]

Great interview. Conservative groups didn’t like her. Interesting.

[@MarttiSuomivuori]

We still recognize quality TV when we get the chance to see it.

[@robertr798]

The same groups that attempted to cancel Ingrid, claim to hate “cancel culture” today. Imagine that.

[@GrantTarredus]

Thanks for pointing that out and for using those quotation marks. Very sharp, my brother!

[@cv6442]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say most of the people that use the term "cancel culture" were not around at the time that Ingrid was "cancelled".

[@GrantTarredus]

@@cv6442 Most of them have probably never read a book, either.

[@cv6442]

@@GrantTarredus I'd have to agree with you there! 😂😂

[@alexm8859]

Those people weren’t boomers

[@tomsperduti2967]

"Ingrid Ingrid whatever has gotten into you". joan crawford LMGAO!

[@vedyp5992]

Her daughter looks exactly like her

[@melissam7067]

Amazing not only what happened but that the father of the child was not blacklisted. Harshness towards women over the years is awful.

[@WinstonSmithGPT]

Women who commit adultery and literally abandon their own young children? Go back to gazing at your hoohah in your magnifying mirror.

[@danahsutton101]

She's a nice person and should not have been attacked but we should still strive to have good morals.

[@daddyfatsacks7922]

She was a player forreal lol so many affairs in her past

[@ronmackinnon9374]

Her autobiography actually wasn't that far off - published in 1980, within two years of this interview.

[@stutzbearcat5624]

Look what she started! kidding! Kidding!! KIDDING!!!

[@karendegraaf1146]

Can't hear it well...

[@Gannooch]

have nothing against the other celebs that were on this show but is this channel ever going to show the Dick Cavett shows where he interviews Jackie Gleason or Art Carney? How about any Honeymooners actors that were part of the main cast? These are rarities much like the other ones.

[@Gannooch]

I have nothing against the other celebs that were on this show but is this channel ever going to show the Dick Cavett shows where he interviews Art Carney or Jackie Gleason? I don’t have Decades.

[@hijack3]

this was a golden standard (=having children in marriages only). we need to go back to this standard.

[@ahyan6681]

Not really

[@dionysus7045]

@@ahyan6681 Must have been born out of wedlock😂😂😂

[@ahyan6681]

@@dionysus7045 No I'm just saying we don't have to go back to that practice, personally if I want kids I would get married.

[@piustwelfth]

Wow, she's wearing no make-up. Very unusual, even for her.

[@known_film4081]

its not unusual now (many women don't wear makeup or just a little) . but I guess at that time it was since societal shallowness towards women was more rampant especially in the 70s and 80s.

[@piustwelfth]

@@known_film4081 Even now, it's unusual for a female movie star to appear on a TV talk show with no make-up.

[@hatelovebowel4571]

What a feminist icon, and she doesn’t need to dye her hair blue.

[@known_film4081]

being a feminist doesn't mean having blue hair wtf.

[@ianbentley7276]

here not hear

[@bmbutler2]

Values wise she was because people (wrongly) look to Hollywood for how they should live their lives. Look at the values in the 1940's and 1950's and look at us now. I rest my case

[@WinstonSmithGPT]

Yes, adultery is really super moral.

[@DSkye-n7m]

Poor woman.

[@somethingyousaid5059]

Dangerous women are exciting women. Even so, some of them are deadly, so what are ya gonna do. 🤷‍♂️

[@BarbaraJunieJones]

it wasn’t just out of wedlock, it was with the man she was cheating on with her husband.

[@Steph-lc7hy]

I just read her story. She said she fell in love with another man. If I was the husband I would be heartbroken

[@Steph-lc7hy]

Also surprising she kept the kid and was cool with telling people she was pregnant. Defiantly ahead of time because that’s what people do in todays world, not in those days

[@sumitchaturvedi7425]

Ingrid Bergman was condemned because western society still had the concept of shame at that time. Unlike the present day, when socially unacceptable behavior has been normalized.

[@MMC-jp1gl]

It was b/c she was such an idol, a public example...and sorry but having a child out of the protection of marriage IS child abuse and destructive. A child DESERVES to be born into a stable, mature, responsible and loving marriage...so that the parents can tend to the just needs of the child. Doing otherwise is either sin or tragic. How sad that we have lost that sense of protecting the innocent today:+( Granted murdering 1 million children a year proves we don't care about human life, innocent life anymore...we have lost our souls. May we get them back asap. God bless~

[@Emptynestballerina1]

Well it was more than that . She was a homewrecker

[@Carousel5883]

It takes two