Saving the Machine the World Forgot

[@InheritanceMachining]

Big thanks to Ridge for supporting the channel! Here's the site if you want to check them out > ridge.com/inheritance

[@DJkrypton89]

I figured ridge was going to sponsor u

[@Basement_CNC]

heeyyy i have worked on this exact model in my highschool (in austria, so next to germany) and its cool to see someone i had my hands on in yout shop 😮 also awsome shop, with some proper non-american machines

[@thatoneguy8371]

Damn you turned into the guy in the math questions 3:30

[@deltor1286]

is you wish to build new draft table you can have it fold out of wall/ make it kinda like a backboard from school. im not sure how you can fit the old one in without rearranging for tighter tolerances of space in shop

[@Skrallslim]

Watch Stefan Gotteswinter for some tips and tricks about the Deckel, but I have a feeling you have :) Love your videos keep it up :) Greetings from Nothern Norway.

[@squibblez2517]

the ending segment with the wife was adorable lol, she's so excited about this machine

[@deckname5794]

She also likes to talk about business stuff... ... horizontally.

[@SerenityMae11]

What are you, 12 years old​@@deckname5794

[@swiftarrow9]

New life goal: make my wife gasp like that.

[@hushedupmakiki]

@@deckname5794 😳

[@joelee2371]

Your wife is a gracious lady; and.... Horizontal conversations are the best. One usually has to choose between new toys and "enjoyable times"; your world is perfect.

[@TobyvanWillegen]

25:55 "That's as small as I can go with these letters" Well, thats the thing, your wife just made you letters that are 10 times smaller you can use!

[@jenss.8706]

it's letters all the way down

[@index7787]

Oh shit it nests

[@cefcephatus]

This requires him to make a new stylus that can actually read at that template size.

[@vilian9185]

@@cefcephatus just make the new stylus using the old styluss

[@Pseudonym394]

@@cefcephatus Side Project Count: 1

[@thecatofnineswords]

Hey, I've seen two of these on youtube now - Uri Tuchman also has one. It's good to see these old machines being looked after and appreciated.

[@danielmclellan7762]

Pretty sure Gotteswinter also has one

[@crichtonbruce4329]

@@danielmclellan7762 He did but he sold it a couple of years ago.

[@abrahamwilberforce9824]

Yes he does.

[@exabeats1775]

Came here to say the exact same thing 😂

[@slimydispertion]

Can they colab 😂

[@jameslmorehead]

A pantograph is used in the production of coins. The artist does not carve a coin at coin scale, but rather on a 8 to 10 inch disk. Once approved, the design is then scaled down, checked and cleaned up, then scaled down again until it's at a coin scale. All this is done in soft metals to keep the detail vivid. Once at coin scale, a steel inverted one to one blank is carved. It's from this blank that the working dies are then made. The scaled coin copies are sometimes sold to collectors. I had a special 6 inch silver nickle come across my desk when I was working for a recycler. That was really cool.

[@James-dv1df]

So silly question what stops criminals just buying one and counter fitting coins?

[@jameslmorehead]

@James-dv1df Having the proper equipment is what stops them. Making a coin or a copy of a coin is straight forward. Making it profitable is the impossible part. Some people have been busted copying old, valuable coins. They were busted as copying the coin made a lower resolution coin with all the same defects.

[@nickkennedy9034]

@@James-dv1df In the world of crime, you do not want to be on US soil when violating the Secret Service's jurisdiction. The more obscure the agency that is going to be down your throat, the more screwed you are. God forbid you mail anything because then you would be getting not just the Secret Service, but also the Postal Security Service and Federal Bureau of Investigation. In short, do not attempt to make a copy of a coin.

[@dom1310df]

Mould making for injection-moulded miniatures and model kits (and I assume other similarly small things) also used used enlarged masters, typically 3x size (a "3 up")

[@sabelgroupari]

Marvellous things humans make

[@derwolkentreiber3864]

Hi, tip from the professional here: I've worked a lot with this machine. We ground a cutting edge at the tip of the cutter. The size of the cutting edge determines the flat surface in the letters. The cutters will always break off very sharply. The cutting edge must be slightly slanted and exposed to the rear. Thanks for your videos, greetings from Austria

[@1pcfred]

That's what I was going to say. Those sharp tips always break. I guess they don't bother when they're making them because why bother? It's definitely going to happen no matter how careful you are. And yeah they still work fine broken.

[@le_blake]

@@1pcfredbroken bits sell

[@Pat.Mustard]

You spelt Australia wrong 😉

[@derwolkentreiber3864]

@@Pat.Mustard no 😜🇦🇹

[@Pat.Mustard]

@@derwolkentreiber3864 😂 🇦🇺

[@erinfinn2273]

"*GASP* IT'S TINY! Oh! LOOK AT THE TINY!" -Mrs. Inheritance Machining Dude, your wife is awesome, you are awesome, and I love your interactions.

[@Emcipio]

Right? She even knew to ask about spring passes!! My wife knows as much about machining as I know about accounting. That’s very impressive!

[@sportenapfeltorten2095]

@Emcipio The both have the same machining-degrees. :) I think its really cute!!!

[@InheritanceMachining]

She has a way of livening up the shop 😁

[@mattmanyam]

​@@InheritanceMachining Horizontally??

[@herzogsbuick]

came to say the same thing, so much fun

[@BPSspace]

Did not have any idea how much I wanted one of these machines until I saw it moving. That thing is mesmerizing!

[@InheritanceMachining]

Think of all the time you could save over that pesky CNC 😉

[@heinpereboom5521]

@@InheritanceMachining You have to program it first, which takes time, but is also a lot of fun.

[@portersorensen8814]

Panographs are used a lot for Gunsmithing as a rough duplicate can be made of a stock quickly and cheaply. These are usually made for wood and use a router though.

[@arfamortis1]

A tip for the future, when moving machines with a shop crane, rest the load on a couple of 2X4's on the legs, stops it swaying. I have a Taylor Hobson, my first use was a brass plaque that read 'Residents only' for my cat door.

[@brownh2orat211]

I just picked up 4 machinery skates from Amazon and their really nice for a whopping $25 each, (bought the return item, they didn't put locktight on the top swivel plate screw and it worked loose in shipping and all the 5/16 bearings were laying in the bottom of the box so people returned them!)

[@J.C...]

I'm not a cat person but that's hilarious 🤣👌

[@J.C...]

​@@brownh2orat211dude I've saved SOOO much money buying returned stuff at Amazon. I seriously check and see if what I'm looking for has a return I can buy every time I'm on there to get something 🤣🤣🤣

[@InheritanceMachining]

that is some big brain stuff right there!

[@ianday38]

I had a similar thought about unloading the truck. Get the crawler to lift the machine, then drive the truck away 😀

[@SpicySteve-tz2so]

I have been in manufacturing for almost 35 years, and my dad is a retired tool and die maker. I have never seen one of these in the shop before, but I heard stories about this machine from my dad and how he used one like it decades ago. These machines are superheroes from a bygone era. I remember the first shop I worked at. In the corner of the shop sat an old Bridgeport True Trace machine. I watched one of our amazing toolmakers take a molded cast of a wooden grip and stock from a single-shot rifle caliber competition pistol, and then create a plastic injection mold from that casting. It was my first experience with plastic injection molding, and it directed me into a career in that same trade that continues to this day. I have seen the transformation of mold manufacturing go from wood models used on duplicating machines to enormous Toshiba multi-axis CNCs. I love this stuff!!!

[@anthonyfuleky3722]

Yep been there myself, retired tool and die mold maker...injection, compression, blow, vacuum, encapsulation,lost wax, die casting....was a great career

[@albertbrain8080]

I am a retired Tool Maker and I used one in a Mold shop around 1976 thru 1980. They are a thing of the past. All electrodes, cavities, and cores are designed in CAD then machined in CAM.

[@KC9UDX]

We had much larger, fully automatic ones. We called them Duplicators. All die part detail was made like that before CNC.

[@hermannstraub3743]

I live next to that Deckel factory in Munich. Went to school passing it in the 70th. I can literally see it from my home. BUT they gave it up und became DMG-Mori. So now that buildings are used by different companies and a private school. Deckel was always known for top notch machinery here around.

[@Oznz-m5c]

Used their 2 & 3 D pantographs and where I did my apprenticeship in at the CSIRO National Measurement Lab in the 70's and also used a variety of their mills. That and Aciera machines would have to be the best machine tools to work with.

[@1pcfred]

Deckel is famous for their grinders. "The Deckel". No one's giving those away today. There's probably not a machinist alive that wouldn't love to have one.

[@Balderoni_]

And have to say DMG Mori does some nice quality machines too, we have multiple of those in my workplace, sturdy and precise machines.

[@williamchandler6151]

I have a horrible case of the wants for a Deckel mill.

[@1pcfred]

@@williamchandler6151 I have a mainland Chinese benchtop mill/drill and it's good enough for what I do with it. I can't really complain about it even if it's low quality in places. Which it definitely is. I still manage to pull some stuff off using that machine I wouldn't be able to do without it. She's my baby.

[@Zaralena7]

I felt that “I am going to make you make so many swirly curls” in my soul.

[@jeffdangerbrown]

I misheard as "swirly girls" and I think it works either way.

[@Deificus]

18:55 I think the reason it looks better is because the chisel tip hasn't reduced in size, but at a lower ratio, the spacing of everything _has_ reduced. It gives the text a more bold appearance at reduced scale. It's a really good look, nice work.

[@InheritanceMachining]

That's definitely what's going on. Mixed feelings on finding "sharper" bits. Thanks!

[@erinfinn2273]

@@InheritanceMachining Bit like using a dulled drafting lead. Do you resharpen for the precision point or leave it slightly rounded for easier object lines...hmm...

[@bbjornsson]

Not only the reduced scale, but you're getting a much smoother cut and feed with the smaller scale. Like the wrench example, if you're making something at a 1/4 reduced scale, all your movements with the stylus are scaled down by 1/4 including any jumpy moves that naturally happen when dragging a stylus over a lettering set

[@pileofstuff]

Project idea: use the pantograph to make your own set of smaller template letters.

[@ExtantFrodo2]

Next, use it to make a smaller pantograph.

[@emptyjay488]

Pantograph letter inception! Soon he'll be engraving individual atoms.

[@derekhartley4480]

I had the same thought. It's like the first thing you do with a label maker is label the label maker.

[@VoidedWarranty]

you just described how the industrial revolution incrementally provided better and better precision! Big lathe with really coarse hand-made leadscrew, scaled down through gear trains to cut a smaller finer pitch leadscrew, averages out the error by factor of whatever the scale was!

[@InheritanceMachining]

way ahead of you 😉

[@flamewave000]

7:14 Small tip for strapping down things, whenever you have a length of strap exposed to wind in parallel with the wind's direction, put about 1 twist per 18-24 inches into the strap. Having those twists causes the wind to spiral around it and will prevent it from vibrating and slapping. It's the same reason why tall narrow smoke stacks have thin metal ribs that spiral around them.

[@a.karley4672]

"why tall narrow smoke stacks have thin metal ribs that spiral around them" IIRC, they're called "strakes", and they trigger the launch of multiple, small vortices at different heights and sices of the (whatever ; "column") instead of less-frequent, larger, vortices. But it does work.

[@flamewave000]

@@a.karley4672 sort of yeah. The issue in both cases is that a vortex forms on either side of the uniform body (chimney/strap) that are imperfect, and so one pushes the other, but then the other kind of pushes back, and you get a natural oscillating force on the object that slowly amplifies more and more. This can cause the strap to vibrate and tear itself apart, or the chimney to stress and break. The twists cause multiple vortices all over that cancel each other out and prevent the oscillation from occurring because it wants to oscillate in every direction instead of only side to side.

[@mrinvader]

@@flamewave000 @a.karley4672 i LOVE engineering/maker channels precisely because of this kind of banter.. . the enlightenment continues into the conmments like a flamewave of genius tearing through flammable thirst for knowledge!

[@ElizabethGreene]

"I made this wall removable." is the most brilliant thing I've heard this year. 10/10.

[@okafka5446]

Yes!😃

[@BriceMarnier]

10:24 "There is something funny about that -clock- wall... Ah, ha ! A secret passage, this is all too easy !"

[@ElizabethGreene]

@@BriceMarnier It occurs to me that *all* walls are removable, if you use machine tools wrong enough. :D

[@netWiz1]

I'm wondering why he didn't loop the power to the ceiling and back so it doesn't get in the way

[@bglenn2222]

Block ordered! I'm leaving on father's day to go down to my grandpa who was a master machinist during his career. I'm dragging a trailer with me in order to pick up his lathe and mill. I'm hopping I can bring this block with me in order to work on it with him before bringing his tools home to my shop. This channel raises the bar for what can be expected from KZbin entertainment.

[@InheritanceMachining]

Awesome! We should be able to get it to you no problem. Thanks so much for the support!

[@urituchmanpigeon]

Very much yes! Congrats on your new machine!

[@InheritanceMachining]

Thanks! Been getting some ideas from your latest videos. You've been blowing my mind 😂

[@Freakydile]

What a fest of recognition!!!!!!!!!! I worked on a Deckel pentagraph at school, when I was 16... I am a teacher in mechanics myself now, and I still use the Deckel mills, they are so handy, and accesable, cause they are small... I have one, fully equiped with all of it's tools, one can even convert it to a slot bench (is that the correct word?). The shapers, man, what a memories... We used them like a rodeo bull lollll :-) Regards from Belgium!!!

[@InheritanceMachining]

😂 that's amazing

[@richardw64]

Exactly what I used for engraving insignias, mould numbers and instructions. Figuring out height and width ratios and also necessary depths. It was a more relaxing part of toolmaking. Miss those days and glad to see you have saved this engraver. I never used D-bits, as you have found, they break easily. The best cutter is a 3-sided bit. You will need a Deckel tool grinder for that. I don't know if you have one. You start with a rod of tool steel and set at 20 degree angle and grind to a point first at 60deg then 120deg then 0deg and put an angular flat on the tip.

[@DracoMhuuh]

I love your interactions with your wife. It's amazing how much love is present and obvious from how you two speak to eachother

[@BadMFingAtti2d]

Your wife knows what a "spring pass" is?! RESPECT! Lol

[@marcusrauch4223]

Well, both of them have an engineering background.

[@BadMFingAtti2d]

@@marcusrauch4223 now I know and knowing is half the battle! 🙂

[@InheritanceMachining]

There's a reason I married her 😁

[@danilolattaro]

RIGHT?? I let an audible "uow" out

[@danilolattaro]

​@@marcusrauch4223ah yeah, forgot about that

[@ehenke31]

An den FP1 - Deckel Maschinen hatte ich damals meine Ausbildung begonnen. Am einer Deckel FP3 Dialog 11 hatte ich dann anschließend meine Prüfung gemacht. 99% bestanden. Das waren die guten alten Zeiten als Zerspanungsmechaniker. Grüße aus Deutschland!

[@x3wildcard]

The days when men controlled machines, not machines controlling men. Good days indeed. Greetings from Indiana!

[@AMeise-vy4fk]

Hab meine Graveurausbildung auf den Deckel bzw Hoffmann Maschienen gemacht

[@fuzzynator2964]

Ich hab auf einer fp3 gelernt und arbeite immer noch mit einer fp5 mit Dialog 4 Steuerung

[@Mp57navy]

@@x3wildcard And yet, here you are writing on the internet. Do you realize your hypocrisy?

[@oliverer3]

​@@Mp57navyNothing wrong with a bit of nostalgia. :)

[@rickyleeengle]

It may be time for shop expansion... That would be a cool set of videos

[@mattylarkspur9858]

"these walls aren't just gonna move because i have no self-control." sounds like foreshadowing to me...

[@Johnnarchy]

@@mattylarkspur9858 I had that exact same thought!

[@InheritanceMachining]

i could bust out my "awesome carpentry skills" 😂

[@ChefurCustom]

I also got myself a pantograph recently for gunsmithing use. I've gotten a good bit of use out of it with 3d printed templates, both for engraving and tracing shapes. I love seeing machines like this being shown to a wider audience like your channel. Can't wait to see what you do with it.

[@moto.machine1]

I moved a Bridgeport in a similar way, but instead I used the shop crane/engine picker to pick it up just to put a pallet under it and remove the pallet. And then I used a 5000 lbs capacity pallet jack and it moved effortlessly exactly where I wanted it. If your floor is smooth enough, it works great!

[@1pcfred]

The classic method of moving heavy machinery is rollers. Just keep throwing rods under it. It worked for cavemen and it still works today.

[@moto.machine1]

@@1pcfred sure, but if you are moving it through a large facility the way I did it is much less effort.

[@1pcfred]

@@moto.machine1 well yeah. If you have a pallet jack and the machinery fits then it's great. Rollers are just a simpler and more accessible solution though. I don't have a pallet jack but I got a bucket full of 3/4" pipe for pipe clamps. Now I'm wondering what ball bearings would be like. Or even marbles. If you had enough marbles could you move a machine on them? Might be a novel way to get workman's comp. Steel shot blasting beads! It could be a new sport. Machine curling.

[@moto.machine1]

@@1pcfred you've lost your marbles!

[@1pcfred]

@@moto.machine1 I'll find them before I need them to move a machine.

[@JustinBania]

You're wife's reaction was actually delightful. Gave me genuine happiness.

[@InheritanceMachining]

She cheers everyone up 😀

[@shenaniganursus3681]

That has to hurt. When the wife exclaims "Ooooh. It's tiny! Look at the tiny!"

[@bereketterefe829]

The excitement in her voice.... He's a lucky man

[@aniciorossitorella7794]

@@bereketterefe829 Really, he is a lucky man. I envy him for his nice and participating wife. Best compliments to both...

[@emmseapics3717]

I'm not so sure. At least she cares???

[@staviq]

You can make hair thin lines by using V bit and thicker stock, doing normal depth, and machining/grinding to thickness. This way, there is enough tool engagement to make the cut smooth, and you can get any line thickness you want by removing less or more material from the surface. You can also make really cool multi material patterns, by V engraving negative in one material, then the positive in another, gluing both like a sandwich, and machining it down until most of the negative part is gone and only what was matching the grooves is left. The trick, is to cut one side deeper than necessary, so only the peaks/valleys touch and the rest has some clearance, this way even if your tolerances are off, simply pressing both sides together harder will force them to conform.

[@InheritanceMachining]

How do you manage a positive (raised) duplication on a machine like this? I can't seem to wrap my head around that 🤔 Positive templates?

[@staviq]

Yes, that would be, I think, the easiest way

[@Guitcad1]

Maybe it occurred off-camera, but you do realize that when you finish securing a load that heavy with rachet straps, federal law requires you to exclaim *_"THAT's_* not goin' anywhere!"

[@davidmam]

With the full intent of taking it somewhere...

[@MikeBaxterABC]

22:57 I was married for almost 30 years, my wife passed away 15 years ago. I never once heard her as excited about anything whatsoever, as your wife was about the tiny! .. You have a very good wife! .. She is a jewel!! :)

[@TorkahPC]

i had this exact same pantograph. I ended up selling it after doing a bit of restoration on it. I had bought it for 80$ canadian. I kind of regret selling it but I had no space at the time. cool to see it here :)

[@InheritanceMachining]

Maybe it's the same one 😉

[@MatieRock]

Maybe a wall mount for the drafting table Like folds up flush into a wall and unfolds when you need it!

[@InheritanceMachining]

I like this!

[@1pcfred]

There's also the ceiling mount to consider too. It drops down when you need it. Plus it involves ropes and pulleys and who doesn't love that?

[@xavermaier9625]

Also, jokes like the apples and oranges is what make your videos so enjoyable to watch

[@InheritanceMachining]

that was a moment of inspiration 😂

[@Herr_Bone]

So many years ago I made the stamps for cigarettes... you remember the brand names written on the paper just before the filter? They had some quite fine pictures and each of the brands had another font for the letters. It was a huge job only to make the templates, and engraving took so many hours as well. All that for a stamping on the cigarette paper. And we used exactly this machine you lucky guy received as a present. Later we had CNC machines, but honestly they could not (and even today can't) make the fine details as good as with these pantographs. After some time you develop the right feeling for the feeds and how to press the stylus in the template grooves. These machines are in between art, precision and craftmanship and one can produce beautiful things with them. I hope you will enjoy this new machine in your tool shop.

[@NightsReign]

__ *"Oooooh! Look at the tiny!!"* This reaction literally made this episode.

[@thomasvnl]

Uri Tuchman did not forget about this one!

[@xxmarc92xx]

The title immediately triggered this thought in my mind too :D

[@jamesmaddigan8132]

They should do a joint project seeing how an artist and an engineer use the same machine differently.

[@robh.8214]

Hilarious how Ms. Machining was so excited how it can make it smaller. That’s a strong relationship there!!!

[@gutsngorrrr]

I've also wanted one of these for a while, even though CNC has totally superseded it, but there's just something about the process of the old pantograph that's so enjoyable.

[@gregmay9097]

Expat Brit living in LA since 1985, time served machine tool apprentice with Coventry Gauge & Tool (MATRIX), manufacturing precision grinding and broaching machines. First job after 1 year in the training center was fixing the machines used by the other employees, one of the most interesting jobs I ever held, I still love fixing things to this day some 50 years later. You passion for saving such machines is nothing short of fantastic and if you were anywhere near where I live I would love to help you refurbish your machine tools.

[@dougscott9524]

I'm a woodworker but love seeing guy's save older machinery, I'm sure it's built better than the stuff made today. I'm still using the sears table saw my Father had for forty years and I've used it as many years, 20 years or more I had replace the arbor bearings. Furniture builder 38 years. Keep up the good work.

[@davebogers5628]

we had 2 deckel gk-12 in the shop but they dont get used anymore since the oldtimers went with pension. We removed one of them to make space but couldent find anyone that wanted the machine (it was in even a better condition than the one in the video). but with a lot of pain in our hearts we send it to the scarpyard. its good to see that a machine like this will still live on.

[@chettiarsirusraj9501]

Would have been nice to bring one of the old-timer's back (if you had means to contact them and get them to your workshop for some time) to teach how to operate and maintain the machine to you or two or three off your Mill machining persons to keep them and use them longer. The Pantograph does take lets say 1to2 months to get acquainted with and get decently good at setting and using them effectively you will have means to make high quality short run products (30 to 50 pieces only or less)or one/two pieces of special request product's on short notice and you need them done now. CNC machines are great but the one to one touch feel and precise steady control you get to have at the level of feeling yourself being one with the milling/machining materials is not so replicate able on a CNC compared to an Pantograph. The old timers certainly must have maintained the Pantograph well if the condition was as good as you mention.

[@Laundry_Hamper]

Bowden cable from a bike brake to remotify the spindle retractor? With some sort of satisfying clicky toggle maybe? Very cool machine!!!

[@Ivanovitch2885]

PTO cable. Should had the detents needed and they're all over auto parts stores and Tractor Supply.

[@InheritanceMachining]

great idea!

[@rubikmonat6589]

​@@Ivanovitch2885Foot pedal for cut depth up to a stop would feel more natural if you want to do it with some speed.

[@vincei4252]

Been there with the Skid Steer in the garage. I rescued a mint Browne and Sharpe grinder (invoices and manuals bought new in the 60's) from a guy that makes aerospace parts in Connecticut (he has CNC machines up the wazzo). Got it home using my neighbors truck and had the local construction guy come over with his skid steer to get it down from the truck. We tried a small farm tractor first but that was way too sketchy and scary. Congrats on the pantograph, enjoy it.

[@InheritanceMachining]

Thanks! There's aways some level of sketchery involved in moves like this 😂 good call to play it safe! Your grinder certainly appreciates it

[@TheNoudio]

Oh I love this.. I have an old friend, he is 83 years of age now.. who still always repairs my saxophone. He has a pantograph down in his cellar and used it to scale down 'his theoretical perfect saxophone mouthpiece curve' to 1/8 the size onto the actual mouthpiece. I always thought, and still think that it was insane mastery!

[@ethantasch]

What a shop Mike has, and you can feel his love and passion for machinery through the screen. Great episode!

[@rowbearpucklebuck2331]

About 28 years ago i put together a machine shop/ blacksmith shop out of aged machines of good quality. Shapers, pantograph mill, a massive radial arm drill, 3 lathes, horiz. mill, turret mill, 100lb. Little Giant hammer, a drill press with a 4 ft. throw quill, welders galore. Then a personal catastrophe struck. I was wiped out and homeless and a mental wreck. I gave that entire machine shop away. Put an ad in craiglist: free machine shop, if you can haul it you can have it. Empty shop in 4 days. I survived and rebuilt in another state. I am successful and healthy and happy. Yeah, those days were hard, but life is good now.

[@barcodenosebleed5485]

That is some stellar resilience my friend. Glad you were able to make it through. And who knows what good came from those free machines to their new owners.

[@thx4ban736]

the satisfaction you get after wiping a freshly scrubed metal surface... same feeling with wheelbearings and crankhouses on bikes. Brand fucking new!

[@InheritanceMachining]

never gets old!

[@seanbaumer6039]

I bought a GK21 recently so have a few pointers You need a tool and cutter grinder (i know of a Deckel T&C) for sale in chicago if you're interested. Those carbide D bits are basically 1 time use before they need to be sharpened again. Take very shallow cuts and go over it again if you want letters deeper this helps minimize breakage. You can 3d print stuff and engrave it on metal like a company logo or whatever. Which really expand the usefulness of the machine.

[@Thekarlskorner]

As a retired machinist with fifty plus years of experience, and an antique tool aficionado who cannot say no to another machine, I truly appreciate your drive. Moving four milling machines and four manual lathes, including a Small Naval ship vertical mill, two Bridgeport M-heads, and one J-head, a mint Logan table top lathe, and three South Bend Heavy 10 lathes, watching this is an incredible joy. Years ago, I made a copy tool of a small engraving machine we had at my work that made those laminated black white plastic signs. I still have it and a set of brass guide letters my shop leadman got for me. One of the jobs I made was the clear plastic automobile console PRNDSL lens for my car that nobody made. Thanks for the wonderful video.

[@a.milesco.8802]

Rule of thumb when engraving single line fonts; You want your cut width to be approximately 10% of your character height. Nice machine!

[@a.karley4672]

Which is pretty much what DIN/ ISO/ BSI say for line-widths in technical drawings. So ... 0.35mm pen for 3.5mm high lettering ; 0.7mm pen for 7mm lettering. My tube pens - Rötrings - dried up long ago.

[@jsmxwll]

seeing someone not a middle aged guy excited about a machine like that was pretty great. i was thinking you could 3d print an upscaled version of a part to replicate it. that would reduce the errors in 3d printing since the errors get smaller as you scale it back down.

[@InheritanceMachining]

my thinking exactly! i may have to get one after all haha

[@jsmxwll]

@@InheritanceMachining just remember that bondo thinned a touch with polyester resin is amazing if you want to put a good surface finish on a 3d print for cheap. that panto looks like it'll probably carry over the surface finish to some degree.

[@60MilesPerHour]

you are the only creator who's sponsorships i will watch, only for the extra drop of content from the great Inheritance Machining.

[@InheritanceMachining]

thank you 🙏 that really means a ton!

[@robertbackhaus8911]

@@InheritanceMachining You've got a coveted spot on my sponsorblock exclusion list, too. Use it wisely (I know you will)

[@sammoscatello2401]

5:17 You met a great guy! Mike is a childhood friend of my dad. What a cool surprise to see a local guy in one of your videos. I’m sure just talking with Mike made part of those hours in the truck worth it!And the cool new toy helps too! Thank you for your consistently enjoyable content!

[@terryfromsouthcarolina4601]

I operated a Hermes pantograph for almost 9 years at an air force base i was stationed at in the 80s. I was the only one in the shop that cared to go beyond engraving the radio faceplates and recognition plaques. I learned real quick the three things you DON'T DO. .1. Don't drop the cutter. .2. Don't let the stylus skip out of the groove. .3. Remember to pick up the cutter off of your work between letters. I had 7 years experience as a manual machinist before I went in the service. I enlisted to do something else than metalworking. Ha! Two weeks after I got to my first duty station I was training people. They didn't even need to send me to technical school. Direct duty, man. The last year I was at that base the manual machine was replaced with a computer controlled one. The Hermes went to the transportation squadron. I spent some time over there, too. You can make your own templates or patterns. Get with your local countertop installers and get the Formica top scraps or cutouts. Draw or trace your design directly on the top or make a stencil. Take a rotary tool and carefully groove out the lines. Every little bump and bobble will show up in your work so go slow and steady. Naturally you aren't going to need to do this unless you have a special logo or such that you will use more than once. The biggest thing is use your imagination. Be gentile! Router bits for wood are your best friend for odd jobs. That machine will amaze you! Cool find on the 3D option Oh. Make sure you get the proper set lines on the arms. If you don't your "0's" will look like drunk kidney beans...LOL! Cheers Terry

[@Not.Your.Business]

"horizontally" - nice!

[@wongcayven9893]

The "don't mix my apples and oranges" pun was so clever lmao

[@kolo890]

Deckel was so omnipresent in every German Metallshop, that every millingmachine was called "the Deckel". Like Bridgeport in the US.

[@KC9UDX]

I worked in a shop in New Berlin where everyone knew what a Deckel was. 😁

[@erok268]

You are welcome for this idea I sometimes collect old letterpress blocks. Imagine doing a collage using letterpress blocks or stamps as the pieces to template. Mashing up images and shapes to make 1 of a kind relief collages. If I had a 3d pantograph I would.

[@nopriors]

I have the baby version of this which is an old New Hermes that I restored and added a DC motor. The simple fonts like you used are still the most enjoyable for me. You will never lose the experience of joy every time you use this machine. When I use mine I always want to shout out to the world. "Hey you guys look at this!" No one is around or hears me but the smile is just as big.

[@davidt8438]

I’m watching him move that on the engine lift and I’m thinking “tie that rod back. He must hear it banging back and forth”. This is how pieces of old equipment get damaged and people say “Hum, I wonder why that got wrecked. Too bad there’s no replacement parts available anymore” Great tool and great job doing the copy. I was surprised it came out so smooth.

[@mrimmortal1579]

Of course there are still replacement parts available for it… they’re all just trapped inside various bits of block or rod stock, and most of them are probably right there in his shop!

[@hazza2247]

i love watching him machining things

[@mrimmortal1579]

Without it, this channel would just be ‘ _Inheritance Talking About Stuff_ ’…

[@leftbeef229]

"autism wasn't around in my day....yeah grandpa used to calculate how many times the exhaust valve lifted on road trips"

[@DanteYewToob]

lol so true.. actual psychiatrists and doctors have said that if Sherlock Holmes existed he would have Aspergers (which is a term not used anymore, it’s just autism spectrum) and that’s because he’s heavily based on a guy that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle knew and based a lot of his traits on him. People act like being autistic, gay, or whatever else is somehow new… no, those people have always been around we just have words to describe it now. I bet the first caveman to make rope or try cave painting were probably autistic.. lol “Nah.. hold on! Can’t hunt mammoth right now.. Ugg doing something cool! Ugg twist grass all day… Ugg have useful thing.. let Ugg cook..” lmao

[@8591Steve]

Lovely old machine. I worked for Deckel in the 80's & early 90's for a company in South West England making leadscrews and Ballscrews for their machine tools. I had to spend a few weeks in Bavaria at one of their satellite factories near Munich. A very memorable experience.

[@JMLE1949]

In UK I used them in the 70's to make durable labels for HV underground cables, the plastic we used could produce black or red lettering on a white surface, by varying the depth of the cut.

[@RedDogForge]

i thought for sure it was going to be a die filer or scraper. that pantograph is still very much in demand among us knife makers so if you ever decide its gotta go im calling dibs!

[@InheritanceMachining]

😂 I guess for engraving the blades?

[@RedDogForge]

@@InheritanceMachining yup and embelishing pommels and guards.

[@ZGreason]

Be careful with how you arrange your shop, you'll create a Tetris and they'll all dissappear.

[@kesevada]

Hydraulic Crane, the tool nobody thinks they need until buy one

[@danielw9007]

Hello from Alsace in France. Magnificent machine! In 1977, in the company where my father worked, I watched a lot the person who used the same machine to engrave parts where a magnifying glass was needed to see the detail. I think it's one of the machines that has always made me love machining.

[@007gunlogo]

I just love it when something beautifully made is appreciated, preserved, and put back into service. Congrats on the effort!

[@lw8882]

My favourite bit of this was watching you show your wife, and seeing how happy for you and supportive she is. Amazing.

[@everettplummer9725]

I worked at Irish Tool briefly, and they used theirs, to copy big wheel seats. He had sheet metal in one building, and machining in the other. He was a lot like Wolfe, from American Pickers. Really into risking his life on those dangerous bikes. Thirty years ago, I wonder if they are still in Hartford City? I don't think shops would use them much, except for special shapes and engraving. They work great on two color name tags, labels, and signs.

[@therestorationshop]

Having all those tools AND a wife that will not only walk in to the shop but actually talk shop and show an interest... you really have it all.

[@bencapobianco2045]

Wow very cool machine!! Can’t wait to see what you make with it! Also impressed by your wife’s knowledge of machining “spring cut” that just grabbed my heart! I want a wife like yours!!!! Mine couldn’t pick a spring out of a bucket of washers 😢

[@markhosbach9420]

Cool! Deckel pantographs were once pretty common in the mold making industry. I learned to operate one in the 1990s duplicating small forging die cavities for brass valves and fittings. We made 3x size models first in plastic, then used the pantograph to reduce to final size in the actual die. We were able to produce very fine detail that way. We ground all of our single point cutters from carbide blanks on a Deckel grinder, too. Those were the days.

[@kirkyorg7654]

making letters for it could be a full time job for some one you need all sorts of sizes and different fonts lots of filing in the future lol also making cutters for the machine can be tricky we had a special grinder for ours as they need to be ground with a taper depending on the material you are cutting as you are going to find out the break cutters often so buying them could get expensive if you have never worked in the trade you have a lot to learn in the future we also used a mixture of varsol [ mineral spirits] mixed with cutting oil or any oil we had on hand and one more thing that will help is a really good supply of good double sided tape i think we used 3M brand one it is used to tape down the templates when clamps are in the way

[@mark109s]

Just stumbled across your channel. Great video. My father was a machinist his whole life here in Indianapolis, I’m 55 now and I wish I would have followed him in that career field. I love fabricating things in my garage. Thanks.

[@Brettnet]

The ONE video I’ve not had chance to watch on release day in the last year or so, I was gutted when I got to the part where you said limited run of mementos and I figured I was well out of luck but I managed to snag one. I’m so happy. I LOVE stuff made by creators I like and this is perfect 😍 Stay awesome (both of you) your videos are my chill time favourite. So satisfying watching a level of precision and attention to detail I could never hope to achieve.

[@greenatom]

Your wife's reactions were what we all wish for! Lucky man. Thank you so much for the accurate captioning. I wish everyone would take the time do this.

[@Fizzbin25]

I spent years using a smaller version of this in my fathers workshop, ingraving trophies etc. We had diamond cutters, they make a much nicer cut for lettering. Watching this has brought back so many awesome memories from my youth, thanks.

[@stevenwagner9912]

So many things about history. So glad you are preserving this part of it. I work with our historical society. Spending time at the museum is great.

[@DJ63phx]

First thing I want to say. I really enjoy watching USA machinist. I just came across this today. My grandfather and father were both machines. My grandfather actually is the original owner of Bendix. I grew up with my father. Having a full machine shop in the backyard in a 3 car garage. Back in New Jersey. He sold off all the equipment back in the 70s. Cause he they sold Grandfathers property. I wish my dad could have taught me how to be a machine, as could. I really enjoy it? I've done a few things. Are my own by using a drill press. And I've always enjoyed working with metal. It's almost relaxing but my dad sold everything off before I could be taught and as I was growing up, they didn't really have machine shops or machining and schooling anymore. shop class pretty much was woodwork. But I have subscribed to your show and I wanna watch. I really enjoy watching you. Do the lettering, but the thing that got me so excited is the way your wife got excited for you and your new piece of equipment. I wish more women would support their husbands that way, but it doesn't happen. But I will be a new watcher. I hope you can teach me some things you spoke to my father and my grandfather has passed away

[@jamesfischer5389]

That Is F'ng Spectacular!!! What an Awesome Addition!!! Love Your Channel, The Shop, Actual Drafting, Grandfathers Tool Collection, Tool Repair Restoration Maintenance, Shop & Tool Build Projects, Side Projects and Of Course, "The Box Of Shame" Technical Descriptions, Quality Videos and Your Calm Cool Comical Narration! ☮️💜🇺🇸

[@aarondluxford]

I operated two of these machines in a Canadian mould shop in the early nineties. We often used them for the very small trademark and model number identification. Usually on the battery door of remote controls and what not. Wonderful pieces of machinery.

[@williamkey678]

What a delight to see this old Pantograph in use once more. One of the many machines that i used such a lot while working for the company that I served my toolmaking apprenticeship with was this same make Pantograph (for all i know this could have been the one ). Apart from making all the labels that went on every other machine throughout the toolroom a lot of the punches that went into the tooling of the progression tools that fit into the presses. I used to love working this machine. The second machine i liked working was called a Punch Shaper. A very complex machine to setup and used, I've never seen another since I left that company. And the last machine I learned how to use was a tool and cutter grinder, and sadly I've never seen one like that particular one since. In a way, now that I am retired, I seem to enjoy working with my metal lathe and Mill/Drill more than ever. I also have a full shop of woodworking equipment, so love doing that too!

[@peteypops]

Another great programme. I remember using one of these engraving machines in England in the 50’s as a GCE Engineering student…that’s when you drew every piece of machinery you used and described every process in detail.

[@craigsudman4556]

There was a pantograph machine at the place I worked at as a precision Mechanical Designer for aircraft instrumentation. The pantograph machine's purpose was to recreate convolutions in a beryllium copper disc which composed half of a bellows. These bellows were used in altimeters and airspeed indicators. The pantograph was set with a 10 to 1 reduction to reduce errors in duplicating the curve and convolutions of the bellows. Truely amazing machines, thank you Ben Franklin. Great video thumbs up.

[@DanteYewToob]

“So you don’t mix up your apples and oranges” haha.. I see what you did there. Nice.

[@jasonsmith7402]

Love your content!.. I'm no machinist or fabricator by any means. I find your content informative, educational, at times hilarious, and always inspiring ideas. I have worked in the farming industry a large portion of my life, so maybe you can imagine the inspiration your content brings regarding repairs and improvements to various machinery.

[@thepagan5432]

52 years ago, us apprentices had times when we had to engrave machine parts and tools. We used a Deckel GK12 machine. I loved using it whereas some of the other apprentices found it boring. I used it during lunch breaks to put my name on my tools. Great machine, and a good post 👍

[@ianjones4071]

Hi loved the video, my son inherited a 9 inch southbound,and he converted it to digital readout, I appreciate you getting and restoring and using old machinery, cheers mate 👍

[@phoneixinvestor]

It's always entertaining to watch a true craftsman work, even if it doesn't fall under the actual definition of the term. However I must say in the most respectful way that watching your wife's reaction to something that is obviously about your passions is truly priceless. It's the way a marriage should be and what so many young people are failing to do in their own relationships. A true joy to watch 👍

[@terrybrown6057]

I used to use one back in the 80's. A newing hall machine. Not sure if I still have a set of brass letter sets or if I have thrown them out. Have you got a set? You can make your own with it with care. That's how we did it. You'll need carbide cutters and a microscope light sharpener for them also.. Otherwise they'll be dull. We had a few machines, smaller ones for engraving trophies. And can do curves. You rotate the job in the holder. Very versatile machines. We also had edging machines which are like a miniature router table for edging chamfers - one pass - bzzzz done. You can also get reverse lettering to engrave on the back of clear plastic sheet giving smooth finish. Ideal for maps, industrial process maps, drilled for lights etc. Like you'd see in control rooms.

[@simonlunt353]

I am just a joiner from the uk 🇬🇧 but I love these old machines and that goes for the old woodworking machines as well and been old school they Suit me right down to the ground 😊 have fun and thanks for the video

[@plunder1956]

I think the optional wall in your workshop was the star of the show, but the cleaning revealed a machine that looks almost new, It was clearly well cared for. I have seen another pantagraph engraving machine in Sheffield England (In fact this guy had two of them). What a lovely new machine.

[@Jack-r1r8y]

First time watching. .I enjoyed watching you face when you were talking about your trips when you were younger. The little smile while remembering the past

[@KeritechElectronics]

We had a few pantograph engravers back in my time at Book Art Museum. They were originally used at a type foundry in Warsaw for making wood type from metal templates.

[@SDSBBQs]

DUDE, this one touched my soul. I used to use a machine similar to that one to make name plates for the new employees at my job. I saw it in the corner of the building engineer's office and asked about it. They told me I could use it and do it if I figured it out. I had such a great time figuring it out and making name plates of all things. When we moved I wish I could have taken it home but I wasn't able to do so.

[@motorlibro]

My mother did engraving from the 50's through the70's. She used a Hermes Engraveograph that even had a motorized cutter that was used to engrave those laminated plastic badges/tags. It was a smaller scale, manual version of your pantograph- brings back memories.

[@JamesBaldwin-x4h]

Brings back memories, used a large version of this machine to cut cavities/cores for die cast molds back in the 1980's. Moved to CNC afterwards. I still have some parts that were cast of my first mold cut, "old school". A master model was used to trace with the stylus, larger to smaller as finishing cuts were made. Good times.