Injustice 2: Advanced Frame Data Tutorial

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[@BucketHeadJunior]

I just wanted to say thank you. I've been watching your videos since Injustice 2 came out and and has been a HUGE asset in honing my game. I actually feel decent at a fighting game thanks to you. much appreciated man.

[@shujinkydink]

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[@BucketHeadJunior]

shujinkydink and you do it well! your videos are well laid out and easy to follow. keep up the good work!

[@ninjacostar3849]

Chidori916 it's good to learn. May you have a glorious fgc career. Now is the future. I learned my fundamentals from old Asian thugs. Docking their cigs on the arcade cabinets. And fucking me up on champion edition. Now days are great. #londonbridge

[@Tjizzle123456789]

Thank you for this video. I was really confused about the cancel advantage part due to other poorly explained videos on youtube but you explained it perfectly. Thank you!

[@FrontlinerDelta]

New to fighting games, TrueTalent's Injustice 2 videos convinced me to buy a PS4 and start learning but it's your videos that have really helped a lot in learning how to actually play. My biggest hurdle (still trying to overcome it but it's not as bad) so far is dealing with constant enemy attacks and never seeming to get my own to land. Your first basic frame data tutorial helped a lot in dealing with this and while I still have a very hard time against hard AI with my "main", Supergirl, I'm usually able to interrupt their constant aggression now thanks to this. Thank you for taking the time to help those of us who are completely new to fighting games in general.

[@mendellee]

noob to ij2 and your vids are super easy to understand once I get used to the vocab. Thanks for your hard work!

[@The_Brenton]

thanks for the videos. they help a lot. IJ1 is the first fighter game I've played since MK3 on SNES so i have a lot of catching up to do lol

[@taylormade601]

great guide lord Dink. as a newer fighting game player i always wondered what the use of hit adv was. now i know

[@n._loay]

hit adv was mentioned in the other video not this one

[@taylormade601]

Grim Reaper woops. Howd that happen lol

[@ohsweatbret]

Have a sub! I just got back into fighting games, and have been struggling quite a bit online. Your videos are very clear, informative, and have helped me understand some of my noob mistakes that have lost me a number of online matches.

[@Synlias1]

Best videos ive found on fighting games and frames. Im completely new to this and ur explanation is godlike! :)

[@friedricehewo5880]

Even though I don't have the game I really appreciate these type of videos. I really find them interesting, and compels me to get into these games more.

[@mugwolf9252]

Great as usual. Most helpful frame data video I've seen. Keep up the good work!

[@felipecosta94315]

Hey man, thanks for this video, it was very helpful! I didn't know how to check for gaps in the strings and moves but now I know thanks to you! Cya!

[@CringeDetectorBot]

You're the best Dink, literally the best Teacher out there to teach this kind of stuff people always want to know...

[@shujinkydink]

matlucacin thx man :)

[@SOLIDANAKIN]

Very informative. Thanks dude. I had a good grasp about frame data but that cancel value always eluded me and that ends today.

[@knarfx4732]

Thanks man.. that cancel explanation was really great and easy to understand thanks.

[@yesno8204]

I think in this video you should should have used deathshot as an example to show case frame data - look for a player named Young Chicuelo from Latin America and see how he use deadshot. He combines deadshots - overhead low mixups to keep constant pressure on his opponent, because of how well deadshots frame data compliment eachother... deadshot is not just a lame zoner lol Anyway good video shujinkydink - always liked your MMH...

[@ItzTymeToDul]

dude. this video is REALLY HELPFUL. thank you.

[@adrianeltanal2145]

Love videos like this, keep it up! Great content bro

[@jdawg86]

One thing i would like you to do is go in depth on frame data that changes for the characters as the patches start rolling out. Sometimes the patch notes confuse me and i never really get a great understanding of whats changed frame data wise with my characters.

[@hooverduece2]

trying to understand frame data is making my head hurt but i wanna understand how to play this game so bad :( but great video

[@PolarBear-fb9lh]

Thank you so much I'm going to make it fun by making a challenge of finding strings and seeing what is punishable! I subscribed thx alot!

[@JokersPlayground]

your a.god at explaining me needed this buddy keep making vids

[@nickb4302]

Great video!

[@thejunkbox4161]

Thank you Dink! Taught me a lot

[@flowa2024]

Thank you for this quality content it's helping me so much. I'm new to fighting games but watching your content helps a lot. Can you please make a full guide with max combos for joker? He's my favorite Charakter but I find him so hard to play, only if you want. Thanks again your awesome man and sorry for my bad english I'm from Germany

[@TheAnswerWillleaveyou]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH

[@ChVtpn]

Awesome explanation!!!

[@Jimzojon]

Great video dink! I've been trying to lvl up since mkx and cancel frames never made sense to me. But by the way, does cancel data still work the same if the blocked attack is plus? Do you still subtract? Or does that change?

[@shujinkydink]

if its plus you have even more time, so its more likely the follow up will jail

[@Jimzojon]

shujinkydink thanks!

[@michaelford8570]

Thank you!

[@isthatfredy9723]

Awesome bro! thank you

[@thecrazywitcher2349]

hey man nice vid!! can you do a guide for black canary

[@wa2368]

Dink, can you explain how the plus frames on a restand are calculated? MoS Raiden corner restrand with b14 lighhting on MKX for instance.

[@ninjacostar3849]

Am sure 112 is special cancelable.

[@alonsoiriartewachtendorff2084]

it is, at least into ice breath

[@ninjacostar3849]

Alonso Iriarte Wachtendorff fun fact. Ice breath can be used as a poke. It's fun. But yeah shin dink. Is only one man. Bless him.

[@lfgamble3924]

It can b canceled into her bak fwd 3 as well. And her bak fwd 3 is godlike

[@Occam31]

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[@jestermask6460]

Me again Dink (from the first tutorial)... :) If the opponent does not block Silver Age (1, 1), I guess the Cancal adv is not being subtracted from the Block adv right? Giving me 17 frames to cancel with a start-up move of 16 or less?

[@shujinkydink]

yeah if they get hit by it then you would add that to your cancel frames, meaning there would be no chance of a gap there

[@TheMrsexy14]

Do you subtract the block advantage whether or not its plus or negative? If back 12 had been + eleven on block wouldnt you add it to the cancel?

[@phdinfootsies2107]

I really dont understand cancel frames by themselves. I thought it was the window you had to input the special move after a combo as in if my cancel is 21 frames and I input a 15 frame startup move at the first possible cancel frame, the special move wwould come out 15 frames after the combo ends so as soon as possible. I really dont understaand why we subtract block aadvantage

[@aaronrory5175]

Gracias

[@tyrania2645]

what about the damage in the move data section? what does that number correspond to? it's been driving me nuts!

[@diegodipalma8934]

I can't put these to a practical use. Everytime I try to use a move of my own after blocking and opponent combo my opponent attacks first as if there negative frames didn't matter. Even when I use D1. It shouldn't be lag cause I'd be able to tell if it is. Some even do follow up attacks faster than my D1 when they have a -12 or even worse on block. It's driving me nuts

[@italiavirgo]

So are Recovery Frames exactly like Block Advantage Frames? or are they completely different from each other. For instance: there is a move that is plus on block let's say plus 5 but the recovery frames are like 44 does that mean you won't get a free follow up because you take so long to recover or do Block Advantage Frames and Recovery Frames work with each other?

[@chyldechylde9728]

italiavirgo block adv is when an attack is blocked recover frames is when an attack is whiffed/misses

[@exorder2005]

Hey Dink, wanted to ask how Block Frames and Recovery Frames work together? Do the recovery frames start after the startup frames? And if you get blocked are you actually -11 or -26? Thanks in advance.

[@shujinkydink]

So recovery frames only become active if the move is not blocked. So if its blocked, it will be -11. If the move misses it is -26.

[@exorder2005]

Thank you man really appreciate it.

[@DayVidsgaming]

So what's a number that you can begin to say a move is safe. For block advantage if the number is under negative blank it will be safe. What number will that be? You said anything under 20 for recovery is good. What about for block advantage. Because I see negatives and positives and idk which is good or bad lol

[@luigiisthewinner]

David Sanchez -5 and under is considered unsafe.

[@luigiisthewinner]

A positive block advantage means if they block you have the advantage. for example a move that is plus 8 on block means if you do the move and they block it you can do another attack that is faster then 8 frames like a down 1. and if they try to attack through it you will have priority and their attack will not go through. Watch his first video on frame data for a better explanation.

[@DayVidsgaming]

luigiisthewinner thanks guy I appreciate it and I will

[@lfgamble3924]

Ya supergirl.. her bak 1,2 can definetly b blown up by ne thing that is 6 frames. But can NOT b armored against in this game. Obviously, because her breath hits multiple times, very quickly

[@oldinolo2780]

How do you know what combo strings to put together

[@bryanE26]

so how would wonder women having gaps in all her strings (except f23) effect her block strings if they can just back dash out?

[@AntDknator]

Frost Edge - TV for Wonder Woman, you have to know when to pressure and keep your opponent guessing . If you keep doing like 22 3 and the opponent knows ww we'll, then they would back dash or d1 you hard. However you can mix it up and use her bash attack Mb and they would get hit if they back dash. Then you can keep the pressure with 223 string and do sort of plus frame combos. Wonder Woman is mix up pressure character with good spacing tools. I suggest watching his Wonder Woman pressure videos.

[@thomaslicamele2021]

so how exactly do you punish someone

[@thatbrokevin7940]

Can you do a video on super girls teleport? I meet so many players that spam that move

[@captainfalco8503]

ThatBro Kevin he already did i believe. on reaction u must hold forward when you see her about to use it because it is very unsafe on shield

[@injusticeforever2927]

Already got an F in class.

[@jay14847]

Wat are conversions.

[@sdjgfujds]

what's the best thing to do against a character who's frames you don't know about?

[@n._loay]

learn their frames duh

[@sdjgfujds]

Grim Reaper go reply to someone else. This question wasn't for you, because clearly didn't understand what I meant so shoo.

[@luigiisthewinner]

KingDinghHD But, what he said is really the answer. You can't really do much just block when there doing their strings and try and poke around with a down 1 and see if it lands, and when an attack is unsafe sometimes you can just tell. But if you're really having trouble against a certain character you really just gotta learn the match up.

[@sdjgfujds]

luigiisthewinner I understand but I'm speaking as if you don't know the match up.

[@luigiisthewinner]

KingDinghHD Yeah, you basically just have to kinda guess. Defense will be your best tool. Block their combo strings and attacks and when their finished poke at them with a down 1 and to see if it's at least not plus on block. Then go for a better punish and use safe moves or plus moves, but you're really just winging it. You can sometimes just tell when a move is unsafe too.

[@mmmmason1]

yo dink, how much do you charge for lessons?

[@shujinkydink]

30$ a lesson, you can check out the details and sign up here! www.patreon.com/Shujinkydink

[@mmmmason1]

Thanks Dink

[@valeriisobolenko3388]

Actually, mathematically speaking you add cancel frames and block frames, so 21+(-11)=10. Cuz if you deduct, it will be 21-(-11)=36. Nerd...

[@keithcomtois7926]

hey dink I have been playing nrs games for a while now and id like to think I know a little about frame data. however I main cat woman and her standing 1 toward 2 is apparently plus 2 but I have a hard time jailing my down 1 after. now if I do sanding 3 after instead which is a 10 start up, it would become a 8 frame off the plus 2 but somehow Batman can hit me with his 9 frame low. broken frames? ps sorry for the essay.

[@hamedpakatchi4196]

I just checked your theory for Catwoman vs Catwoman. S1F2 jail into D1 seems to be truly an effectively 5frame move since her fastest move, S1 (6frames), does not punish it. However, I think you're right, after many tries. Unless my execution is one frame (hopefully not two) slow, seemingly a 9 frame move (both D2 & DF3) gets you out of S1F2 jail into D1.

[@DeadSpacerKEV]

112 is definitely cancelable

[@DeadSpacerKEV]

it just needs to connect

[@markospissourios5934]

First