Injustice Superman.

[@3Rayfire]

I think the worst part to Batman in the back of his mind was Superman proving Joker's One Bad Day theory right. Which should be impossible.

[@deadcool3227]

Joker's One Bad Day philosophy is flawed, it's about how people react to One Bad Day. I mean, Batman had One Bad Day, but he used that to try to help make the world a better place

[@jerm70]

Injustice is a Neo-Greek Tragedy of two men with uncompromising positions who escalate an all out war all over the world in the vain attempt of proving one's own morality over the other. Batman and Superman are both villains of this universe in a way. They both plunge the world into chaos and it is only the annihilation of everyone that can convince both men to lay down their grudges and save their universe. Only for both of them to turn on each other as soon as Brainiac is gone. Injustice is a dire warning of how being uncompromising isn't a virtue in and of itself.

[@tylertinney8294]

For The comics I agree, but the games kinda hit you over the head with Batman being in the right. Some might not agree but the writing is clearly meant to make you take Bruce’s side.

[@joshheralal8758]

I mean, Superman became a tyrant and killed a child and Batman tried to stop that.

[@tylertinney8294]

Yeah for the most part I am just sick of evil superman, Injustice, Earth 3 and Justice Lords Superman are enough but seems everyone is doing a different “evil superman” take nowadays.

[@sonamtashi7706]

@@joshheralal8758By the game timeline Superman has crossed the line of moral justification but in the lead up comics you can see how Batman escalated the conflict between them rather than compromise & find a middle ground.

[@heavenlyrhyme2539]

​@@joshheralal8758 "tell me you commented without watching the video without telling me..."

[@chrisray7728]

It feels like you say every episode was such a pain to make, but then they're made with such love and understanding for the material it's just fun to see.

[@rolkflameraven1483]

Bruce's side is also interesting. We see how much he wants to kill Joker, he day dreams about doing it, but can't. And then Clark, probably the only person in the world that he truly trusts outside of Dick, does it. Right in front of him. And Bruce brakes. Again. For all that Clark needs Bruce to reach out, he doesn't understand just what his actions did to Bruce. We've seen it before, in the Justice Lords. The difference was Bruce only saw the aftermath. This allowed him to detach it, put it aside and become what we saw there. The man willing to crush a world's soul to save it. Here? Here he saw his best friend become the monster Bruce is terrified he could become. Thus Bruce, being shit at being human, reacts the only way he knows how and it goes poorly. Diana being a bitch doesn't help either.

[@3Rayfire]

Yeah, Diana is the most confusing character in Injustice.

[@CornBreadtm1]

​@3Rayfire Diana is willing to kill. She doesn't cause it's not what superheroes do. But she will if it's necessary (Maxwell Lorde). She saw Clark as a kindred spirit, but took it way too far! Injustice is about people who don't want to be alone and fit in, while being understood.

[@3Rayfire]

@@CornBreadtm1 But Diana also understands what tyranny is. But the lady who carries the lasso of truth didn't recognize she was participating in it.

[@CornBreadtm1]

@3Rayfire She didn't care. It was a "New Regime," and she was a part of it. It's less about right and wrong and more about what you can get away with. If the regime was the status quo, then she wasn't a tyrant. It's why she is still the most violent member in Injustice 2, gutting Harley Quinn in front of Supergirll. She has no masquerade of being a hero. She is a hero cause she says so rather than acting like one by that point.

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

@@CornBreadtm1 @3Rayfire The writiers just didnt know how to realistically make Diana become a badguy so hey, just write her character from the ground up lmao

[@wonder_platypus8337]

I'd absolutely love a breakdown/behind the scenes video of how you go about making the scripts for this video. I know that would be a lot of extra work but if that's possible that would be amazing.

[@AdChinhVtuber]

i really hate the fact that your videos keep making me tear up. If you keep this up, i might just cry my eyes out

[@MadameTamma]

An aspect I love about this comic is that Clark isn't stopped by a Naruto Talk no jutsu where after one stern talking to Superman just does a complete 180. The seeds of Superman's undoing were planted the instant he looked at his son's face and then comes a string of small realizations that are pushed down by denial until they just blow up. 'Jon wants to explore this world on his own against Superman's insistence that he should go with him to explain some things - but wait, why would he have to do that? He's proud of the world he's made, right?' 'Jon talks to someone he was close to in his own world. Someone who experiences life in this world on a regular basis who can tell Jon what it's like and that makes Superman extremely paranoid. What would this person tell him?' All the while Superman tells himself that it'll be okay. Jon will understand, but he says it in a way that's clearly trying to convince himself more than anything because he is desperate for his son's vindication. He never had to truly consider what his wife and kid would think of his world before. Now he does, and it creeps up on him little by little just how ashamed he actually is.

[@arctiwolf857]

No, the real reason for this is because the games take priority and the comics can't break that status quo if they wish to enter the canon of the Injustice Universe.

[@MadameTamma]

@@arctiwolf857Watsonian vs Doilist perspectives

[@SuperSonic12369]

Long time watcher, first time commenter. I just want to say, your thorough, complete analysis of these characters, from DC to Marvel, resonate with me and fully realize the truth of why these characters mean so much to so many people. You get to the root, the human side of them, and illuminate why they're so important, across their myriad incarnations. Keep doing what you do my man.

[@r.m7031]

Dude you’re Chanel restores my faith in the superhero genre

[@Dock_Johnson]

4:36 this comic panel is so wholesome 🥲

[@Ty-FighterZ]

Have you ever considered doing Star Wars content? I feel like your thoughtful approach to character analysis could really beautifully illustrate Anakin’s growing instability & Obi Wan’s love blinding him to what was really going on with Anakin when he needed guidance the most. Especially with the reunion they had in Kenobi.

[@Grizabeebles]

Lately every time I see a scene with billionaire Bruce Wayne sitting at the same table as Daily Planet freelance contributor Clark Kent I imagine seeing a picture of Jeff Bezos sitting with Macolm Gladwell or Howard Hughes sitting with Bob Woodward. That's got to tread awfully close to being just as conspicuous as the two of them standing around wearing full costume.

[@EnerKaizer]

I mean, Clak is one of the Daily Planets star reporters, so him being near Bruce for an Interview makes sense, and the comics even later went on to let Bruce become the owner of the DP to even make this part not stand out as much (considering he'd be Clarks boss then as well.)

[@Grizabeebles]

@@EnerKaizer -- All of that is true. Just imagine how it *looks* from the perspective of the average Joe on the street. Kent and the Planet run exposé after exposé on Lexcorp's misdeeds for years and then when they finally run into financial trouble, Bruce Wayne - who has been seen having beers with Kent numerous times - swoops in to buy the Planet to keep the criticism going. From the outside it looks like Old Money using the Press to beat up on New Money. And because its the Gotham Gazette's network that buys out the Planet, it also looks like Wayne is trying to turn the Planet into a right wing pro-Wayne Industries tabloid rag like the Gazette.

[@whodatboi2567]

Ultimately, the success of Injustice Superman is that he is very human for better and for worse. Part of what makes Superman difficult to resonate with most is that he doesn't falter nor waiver because, as a symbol of hope, he cannot. This prevents him from being able to fall down and get back up which is probably a more powerful display of hope than never falling down to begin with. Of course, that isn't to say that Injustice Superman is a better Superman because he is a dictator at the end of the day.

[@theepicduck6922]

Very well done and oddly timely as usual.

[@pauljohnson271]

Please never quit. Great work. Keep it up.

[@laurelsilberman5705]

Another absolute crushing entry in your analysis portfolio, loved parts of the jon Kent injustice arc

[@Tuaron]

Jon meeting Injustice Supes sounded like a cheap cash-in crossover (and that may very well have been the reason) but Tom Taylor certainly made the best out of it.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

True, I really hope this leads Jon can show up in Injustice 3.

[@Darth_Bateman]

"cheap" ? ? ?

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

Tbh no one really cares about Jon enough to make bank off of it so i wouldnt call it a cash-in in anyway

[@toledochristianmatthew9919]

​@@Darth_BatemanIt was cheap in a sense that Jon's character has been rough around the years. The stupidest thing dc has done was age him up which is especially weird since Damian is still looks younger than him. And they kept shoving him into a lot of awful stories that is so out character when he was first introduced. It feels like the writers just used Jon as a mouthpiece because he was a new character at the time and thought they could do whatever they want with him. And his crossover with injustice superman felt rushed but the writer of the comic made the most out of it.

[@crazybritishgaming4045]

Gods, I wish I could subscribe twice. Look forward to these like new episodes of any of my favorite shows.

[@elmuchacho3379]

I'm honestly kind of glad that you point out batman is as equally flawed in what happens in injustice. injustice 1 and 2 are probably batman at his worst, especially in 2 when he develops brother eye.

[@TevyaSmolka]

I always maintained that Adventures of superman jon kent series has so much potential to go far with that injustice crossover but instead of doing any of that we got 6 issues of nothing but pointless filler that went nowhere, and proves my point more and more that aging up Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy was a bad idea from the very beginning at least in my opinion.

[@lordskeletor4558]

Why are you in so many comment sections on the free comic website

[@youngbounty1394]

I agree. I think this six issue run would have been more effective had Jon remained 10 and possibly be 11 years old by this point. That being said, I think it could’ve worked with an adult Jon and given him more character depth had it allowed Jon to make hard choices than just hugging it out. Tom Taylor’s problem is that he doesn’t know how to allow his characters to grow and make hard choices. That’s why Jay is hated so much and why Jon coming out as bisexual doesn’t work. I WANT Jon to come out, but when you don’t allow the characters to grow and make hard choices, they become shallow and stagnant. Hell, he could’ve brought back the Super Sons, but again he’s not allowing the characters to make hard choices. Outside of the hug, I didn’t find Jon’s response to the vision of Damian’s death to be believable. The only reason why the six issue of The Adventures of Superman is the better Jonathan Kent aged-up comic is because the characters do show emotion and respond humanly to what’s going on around them.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@lordskeletor4558 i have no idea i just get around.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@youngbounty1394 indeed and honestly it just drives me crazy that dc won't deage Jonathan Samuel Kent Superboy back to his little 10 year old self and seeing him and Damian Wayne robin maybe going to the injustice and meeting there counterparts, and seeing Jonathan Samuel Kent Superboy as his little 10 year old self and reacting to his injustice version of his father sounds like a way better story then the actual series that we got which were so bad and garbage and not a great story that felt so inconsequential in my opinion.

[@MadameTamma]

@@TevyaSmolkaJon being 10 or 11 in this comic would have added a really interesting dimension to the story. The injustice characters would try to ignore his points by making the excuses that he’s just a kid and doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and also it would be more messed up to see them threatening him since he’s just a little boy

[@alextorres8635]

I don't know if this would be a hot take or not. The Justice Lords in the DCAU was far more fascinating than the Injustice regime. I don't know if it was the Luther killing flash as president angle or maybe that Injustice Superman is just completely unhinged....but Justice Lord Superman seemed to me a real test of Clark's ideals in where the lines are and whether he should cross them. It wasn't spurred on by losing Lois but by losing Flash to his greatest enemy. More nuance I feel. I would have loved to see a media that tackled the full timeline of the Justice Lords and any resistance that failed against them.

[@tylerbertram7065]

I feel like it made alot more sense for the Flash to die because not only was he an actual League member but also the heart and soul of the team plus the Justice Lords don't go out of there way to kill people who disagree them unlike the Injustice regime.

[@l8studios_]

Same with Owlman being way better than the most mid and overhyped character ever the Batman Who Laughs like seriously Batman could not take out the entire league insane or not

[@valeria262]

I love the justice lords but they really were fucking not that deep bro, cartoon mustache twirling at its best and only someone up their own ass couldn't see that

[@nonope1715]

I think all of them ‘could’ just depends on the set up. Could Batman beat the league if they rolled up out of the blue for a fight? No. Could he beat them if he’d engineered each encounter? Sure. Goes back to who’s writing decides who wins

[@AALTERR]

Great video, I love how you use your words to tell us the story

[@superbrian7997]

Oh well. I’m sure that the lad’s “Found Family” will make all his daddy issues disappear.😂

[@SHAMGAR_PRODUCTIONS]

Hello leo, I hope you read this comment,your video essays have inspired me to write my own superhero stories and I enjoy every one of your videos.

[@Small_child_punter]

OOH a teaser for injustice Hale jordan. Im looking foward to this one because iv always had a hard time placing this portrayal. His motivations were a total blur to me.

[@brookb5890]

I'm loving all this Superman content!

[@deadcool3227]

When it comes to Clark people often focus on the 'Super' part, and forget he's also a 'man', and this man needed someone to grieve with him and talk to him. Furthermore, "Superman" is not a person, it's an ideal that everyone should strive towards, it just so happened that Clark embodied that ideal so much that he became the poster boy for it, and everyone ended up forgetting about who he was inside

[@dizzpenzerr5367]

I always like the dynamic of Superman and Batman when they are best friends. Both of them look up to each other, and have a lot of respect for one another. For Superman, Bruce is the ultimate proof of what a human can be capable of if one puts their everything into it. Take away Bruce's money, gadgets, tech, and whatnot and you're sure as hell that he'll somehow find a way to still dispense justice in the dark streets of Gotham as the Batman. He's also the grounding force to Clark's much more lofty outlook on life, helping him see what's it like at the ground level when he's too busy flying above everyone else. He's the pinacle of humanity that the alien Kal-El wants oh so badly to be part of. For Batman, Clark gives him hope. Hope to maybe get away from the past where he is forever stuck at, as the kid in an alleyway unable to do anything as his parents were gunned down, and maybe start looking into the future to see how bright it can be. That he can achieve more as the Batman rather than just punching bad guys and put them back into the same revolving door prison/asylum. To him, Clark spits in the face of the saying that power corrupts and absolute power corrupt absolutely and that if he could put his faith into one thing, then it's that Superman will always choose to do the right thing.

[@strikermodel]

5:24 I love this panel. Superman is concerned Bruce injured his hand punching him lol. That's gotta be imasculating ngl.

[@tylerbertram7065]

You should at point do a couple of videos on Batman the Brave and the Bold, especially its best episode Chill of the Night.

[@matiasjauhojarvi9551]

I think that this video is great. I like Jon interacting with Clark also i like that Jon didn't forgive Harley like everyone else like they forgot she was as responsible for Metropolis destruction as Joker.

[@anenemystand5582]

It's funny that you say superman idolized batman. Because what batman reaction shows is that he feels the same about superman. Superman has to stop what he's doing because he's better than that. He's more than human. Capable of simply withstanding that grief.

[@cambot4614]

5:58 The difference between Batman being feared by the masses and Superman being feared by the masses is, as hard at Batman may try, he isn't an alien from another world. He couldn't kill with a thought, on a whim. People know that. Batman doesn't kill, he avoids it. Superman could -- and did -- take over the earth and rule with an iron fist because he's superman. Nobody can stop him when he thinks what he's doing is right.

[@madalitsokakhuta-banda5668]

My headcanon, is that this is an alternate version of injustice Superman and when his son left he became a good guy again

[@Backtothezack]

Another fantastic video

[@Alabasterr.]

I love this channel so much.

[@SirsasthNigam.]

Kingdom Come did it better, Superman is an inversion himself

[@PK-MegaLolCaT]

6:11 sure but i think it more of a failure of the character experiencing how they feel.. Clark admires bruce but bruce admire Clark... he need Clark to be better than him ( unless is frank miller writting the story ..in that case bruce is too dumb to realize he actually admires superman XD )

[@neerkum5428]

I'm sorry that thumbnail and title are so funny I've been just staring it and lmao

[@prgr]

can someone refresh my memory why they don't use the Lasarus pit to revive her ?

[@newhybrid101]

He is not his son. I know he is a version of Superman but hear me out. This Superman is physically different than the main one They all are in Injustice If they looked the same then it would have been a merely split timeline,the fact that they look different proves it doesnt have a similar origin. This Superman has a different face, different structure overall,his hair looks brown in the games,and he isnt nearly as muscular as Jons real dad. His powers are also nowhere near on the same level as the main Superman If they took a DNA test it would likely come out negative,he is just too different physically. They would probably appear as just relatives in a test at best If anything the Injustice universe is CLOSER(but still seperate) to the New 52 universe. However Jon is the son of POST CRISIS Superman Jon is absolutely correct that he cant be his father,but for the wrong reasons. Another example that these characters are different biologically is Damian. Injustice Damian doesnt look like his future iterations from the comics at all. Lets look at Futures End Damian for example. His physical appearance over the years doesnt match his mainline counterpart. Particularly he is has different hair,eyes and is shorter and much less muscular Saying Injustice Superman is Jons dad is saying that Tobey Maguires Spiderman and Tom Hollands Spiderman are the exact same person Injustice Superman became a villian because he is a different person,genetics also affect the brain/personality etc. Kingdom Come Superman is more similar to Post Crisis Superman and he faced a very similar thing as Injustice Superman,he didnt kill the Joker and he didnt become a tyrant.

[@jinchuriki7022]

All it takes is one bad day.

[@smileysuburban8146]

nope

[@Maria_1600]

@@smileysuburban8146yes it does

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Great vid as always

[@strikermodel]

2:39 Wait, this brings up a good question. We already know if Superman breaths hard enough it creates strong winds or ice. If he pushes too hard, can his poop blow a hole in the ground? Is there a diaper strong enough for the man of steel?

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

I like Batman, he is a great character, but at the same time I dislike him because he is arrogant and hypocrite. Arrogant because in a lot of times he thinks he is the only with reason, and a hypocrite because he can leave a criminal at the face of death because of hard he punched him, but he won't ever kill even if it's necessary. And no one proves this. hypocrisy than Joker. He is the worst thing around in Gotham... but rather than finish his reign of terror once and for all, he indirectly let him escape to do all over again.

[@joshheralal8758]

You act like universes without Joker are somehow crime free. You act like Punisher makes New York crime free. There will always be crime, and it is best that you don't start adding to the body count. Also, Batman doesn't accidentally kill someone for the same reason why Superman can: comic book science.

[@justarandomdude.9285]

God blessings! amazing video! it's so funny how I start tearing up and crying over a superhero video essay. 😆❤

[@Aughlag]

Grief made Superman a monster

[@danielseelye6005]

Who was doing the voice of Superman? He sounds familiar...🤔

[@ShinySephiroth1]

Came to the comments to see of anyone else asked. I'm hoping it'll be in the final credits.

[@yoyoyiggityyo17]

Your son hates you but your mother won't believe it 🤣🤣🤣

[@Eddie_boi]

Bro never miss💪

[@joanfinocchiaro6313]

Love the videos

[@WadeTheWilsonTV]

_"It's also more important to see him as a human..."_ .......but... he isn't though?

[@amanzeihedioha]

Oh god. This. Oof. Please tell us your thoughts on dad breaking Jon's boy toy arm! It was so strange that they just left it alone...

[@funbro99]

Justice lord superman still feels far better than injustice superman.

[@pooyashirazi1991]

Where is Smallville season 10 video man. Been waiting for weeks

[@kingofthebis1068]

None of this changing my mind this book is hot dookie

[@takenname8053]

Need to catch up on Injustice

[@ErickGonzalez-yv1gc]

I do not think Jon hates this version but rather lost all respect for him.

[@bendewalt5560]

Ok so(man i wish we could do a collab but i dont even have a youtube channel just thoughts) i thought i might be cool to do a video comparing the themes of the episode "Frozen Out" to the classic Christmas story "the little match girl" as permafrost is a similar character but modern...also its interesting to note in static shock the girl only gets help because of the pressence of a super hero character...like TLMG. No civilians really step in to asist. It kinda encompasses that idea of dc heroes are something to aspire to, as perhaps since we know static is a civilian kid it encourages us to be the super hero...the match girl has two interpretations of a girl seeing visions cuz of extreme cold. Or her grandmother coming to get her, as she dies...also it may also be allegorical of how tales like the little match girl, and even static 20 years later lol are in deed still relavent to not take for granted what we have and help those we see in need despite them being a loved one or not...which is one of the points if superheros in general (Sorry for a wall of text, love your videos, and happy holidays if not merry christmas Mr. I.P.)

[@superbrian7997]

What Gandalf the Grey had to say to us all about not being so quick to meet our death and punishment is good advice. But more than this, where Injustice Superman lost his way is not primarily in using lethal force. It was in his desire to control what will happen and what won’t happen. Which made him not all that different from Darkseid himself who sought the Anti-Life Equation for an untold length of time. In order to control all sentient life. And another thing that Injustice Superman hated about what happened to him. Is not that he loss his beloved wife. Unborn child and the city that he loved. The real truth is that his self-image cannot accept that he was made to suffer just like any of those lowly little humans that he looks down upon while he’s flying high in the sky. Because let’s be real here. In a cop procedural drama or medical drama show like Grey’s Anatomy. The majority of bad things happen to the patients and their families. Not the doctors and nurses operating on them. What happened to Kal-El’s loved ones was definitely more theatrical than how it goes down with most people. But let’s look at Hercules here for an example of a better man than Superman. Literally what they did with Superman was ripped off from Hercules being manipulated into deleting his own beloved wife and children. But how did Hercules react afterwards and how did Superman react afterwards. Hercules lamented the demise of his family to the point of almost deleting himself but instead he chose to make amends and seek redemption for a crime he wasn’t truly responsible for. Superman on the other hand just decided to start murdering more people! As the old saying goes, “Circumstances don’t create character. They reveal character.” Superman has an absurd and extreme reaction to the loss of loved ones as Achilles had to the loss of his precious Patroclus during The Trojan War. We can all understand that Achilles had love for his brother in arms but to be so godsmacked that he loss his life in a brutal and often times chaotic 10 year war, is kind of delusional and ridiculous. It just shows how much of an entitled little spoiled half-god brat that he was. That he thought himself separate and free from the joys and pains of our shared human condition. One of the things that many of us love about Thor Odinson from the MCU is how he has suffered how we all have suffered or will suffer but chooses to still be a blessing and hero to those that he can be. But what Injustice Superman did is use his tragedy like a wicked politician to justify becoming mean, merciless, violent, domineering and cruel. And he deserves no sympathy from us!

[@alexandrefrauches132]

Good analysis! I feel the moment the best sums this up is when Injustice Superman reveals his identity to the public in Year 1, ending his life as Clark Kent, the persona that allowed him to live among people, with them interact with the man behind the super hero. It represents how Clark is trying to use his Superman identity as armor, trying to convice himself that he has no flaws, that he's above everybody else. That's why people like his parents, Kara or Jon have so difficult getting through him, because Injustice Superman is trying to forget from this part of himself that, in his eyes, lead him to be hurt. It's because of his refusal to embrace his humanity that results in his evil actions, with Injustice Superman always refusing to accept his mistake, instead choosing to blame his problems on others (like Batman, the main Justice League or even the civilians). The fact the tried to destroy Metropolis just because he found out people didn't like his protection is the perfect exemple of this.

[@danielasarmiento3101]

Great analysis, but let's be real Injustice is just the poor man's Kingdom Come

[@alexandrefrauches132]

I disagree about Injustice Superman fall to the dark side being Batman's fault. Sure, Bruce was bit harsh on Clark but that doesn't execuse Clark refusal to listen to Bruce warnings. He wasn't looking for a friend to give him good advices in that moment of need, he was after people to feed on his ego. He wants people to just approve his methods, tell him that he's right and go along with his actions with no question. If somebody points out his flaw, Injustice Superman just kills, choosing to live in his delusion rather than facing reality: That he still just flawed person and not the "perfect protector" he sees himself as.

[@TheRealHulk34]

The book and the show Invincible needs your expertise breakdown 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@jamal678yui]

hey, how come you dont do a ep on krypton(the show)

[@bobatea321]

I'm gonna hard disagree on the point that batman is a hypocrite besides the family stuff, Batman wasn't scaring the populace, superman was, imagine your perfect demigod savior who never killed before stuck his hand in another man. Batman has never killed anyone and thats his weakness in its own way but to call it hypocritical is ignoring all the details of how where and when the fear is used. Love the video just thought I'd share my two cents

[@gamecitysavior2910]

Please add a bite sound to the intro 😂

[@mhead1117]

Fathers reading the title: 😢

[@DarthDread-oh2ne]

Injustice Superman vs Omni man; who would win ?

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

If omniman had kryptonite, him. If not, Superman.

[@valletas]

​@@Hi_Just_Fredhonestly injustice superman doesnt appear to be really that strong despite being older then our supes He never even knew about brainiac before injustice 2 so he might just lack experience with facing stronger foes Even injustoce batman doesnt seen so insane at least not like regular batman who won against gods and stuff All that id to say that i dont think he would lose but im not sure if he would win either

[@tony_feels]

Excellent :)

[@ratatadestory]

I simp

[@supernerdproductionz]

Best first 90 seconds

[@jinchuriki7022]

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[@NorthernWind0]

I... vehemently disagree with this take. Batman did try to reach out to superman, but was stopped in the closest anyone came from shaking him out of it by Alfred beating the hell out of Clark with the super-pill. Batman literally did nothing wrong in this timeline from my reading. Batman holding Superman to a higher standard is good. Batman would want Superman to hold him to that same standard if he did reach his breaking point. He would want to be stopped. It's not hypocritical, it's just the nature of power. Marvel has one thing absolutely correct, as every evil superman take has shown: "With great power comes great responsibility." Superman's ability to casually overthrow the world means he needs to be held to a standard that is unimpeachable. If he can't control that ability, due to anger, or any other emotion, then he needs to be put in check. Batman's actions are the only correct choice. There's no defending otherwise. When Batman says he needed to be better, there's no real way he could have been. Yes, he could have maybe handled Clark's emotions better, but the moment Clark decided to start overthrowing governments and killing people who got in his way, Bruce no longer had any reason, or indeed, obligation to cater to Clark's feelings. Superman's actions are his own, Batman bears no responsibility for what happened to either of them. Saying he should have been better is no different than Batman saying he should have been stronger so his parents didn't get shot. It's an unreasonable expectation he's placing on himself, he who is still, at this point, shouldering the world after the fall of Superman's regime. In fact: I'd argue that the section on Jon Kent demonstrably proves my point. Superman has to be stronger than anger and grief. He cannot rely on others to coddle him in his loss. Expecting batman, of all characters, to do so is insane, especially once Clark has made himself a threat. Jon's response is exactly the same as Batman or any sane person's. That Superman has failed, he has become too weak to carry his ideals and he needs to be stopped. Blaming Batman for correctly assessing that Clark had overstepped the lines and correctly deciding to challenge him instead of cater to his grief is assuming that the conclusion Clark came to wouldn't have been reached anyway. Jon Kent absolutely proved that nothing was going to change his mind. Not even Bruce. As evidenced by Bruce trying, and failing, multiple times, to do so along this path. You are not at fault for not catering to a murderer's feelings, nor are you responsible for what comes of not doing so. To do this is Victim Blaming, and it could just as easily be applied to people who didn't cradle their murderous Ex-lovers who kill their current lovers because they feel bad that they lost something. Or, to put it another way, it's like blaming a child for improperly handling the emotions of their rapidly-becoming-an-alcoholic father who is starting to beat them. Yeah, maybe some damage could have been avoided if the emotions were handled differently, or maybe not. Maybe there wasn't really anything that could be done about someone being angry and wanting to hurt things. It's not Batman who failed Superman, it's Superman who failed Superman. It's not Bruce Wayne who failed Clark Kent. It's Clark Kent who failed Clark Kent. Edit: A small correction -- Batman DOES make mistakes in this timeline -- notably surrounding the second Blue Beetle, but not when it comes to Superman.

[@pedrocatoira2695]

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[@dumbidea1007]

The John Kent part was unnecessary

[@kharijordan6426]

Homlander is what he is but actual Klark Kent being evil is so much better. You can't blame detective comics for being unrealistic now. There are reasons.. tangible reasons not to be evil and they can be taken away and put back again and again and again. The ideals don't work for every situation but not everyone will be in every situation and some version they are aware of the situations and they try super hard not be in those situations. That or they are as crazy as bat man wich...no ...no one is going to work out side the law and fully trust the law even when someone calls out the fact that the law failing is the reason they exist in the first place. No reasonable person with powers would even count their exploits as something that candy handled. It's special. Super man, the flash and othe super powered people give themselves this excuse. They deal with things the law can't handle and maybe sometimes help out with low level stuff to. But Batman and anyone else without powers doesn't have the power equalizer excuse. Bat man kid is killed. Does nothing. Superman kid is killed..and yeah id say he had a pretty reasonable reaction. Broken and lost a good reson to not kill everyone. The whole "we all got dead people." Line easy to say when you not just living for them. You actually enjoy life. Some people just mean it when they tell their family they mean the world to them.

[@joshheralal8758]

Batman didn't do "nothing." Also, you can't kill people because you feel bad

[@kharijordan6426]

@@joshheralal8758 bat did the same thing he always does and will never accept the fact that it just doesn't work and You can kill people because your sad you just shouldn't...or at least don't do it innocent people.

[@Adam_X78]

Howdy

[@yoyoyiggityyo17]

FUCK

[@rerolol]

superman: *kills joker* batsy: *surprised pikachu face*

[@mr_hansen]

Take a drink every time an Implicitly Pretentious video says the word “trauma”

[@juanbisonosuero3650]

I personally think that maws did it better

[@ChrisBear1989]

I'm not gonna argue Batman should of done something. "Batman scares people" yeah he does but why would Superman decide that scaring people(Note Batman scares criminals, bad people not your everyday human). Besides why would Superman just suddenly decide "You taught me to scare people" Like who says that. He was deflecting from his recent actions to do a world wide ceasefire (On superman's authority). And to even Batman's credit he did go to the President of the US to basically berate him for going after Clark's parents in this worst moment of Superman's life. Clark needed time to heal and mourn not go out on his own making decisions for the world while he's still feeling like his world ended(Which it didn't). At least I think so, being in pain tends to skew your judgement. Superman's kid(Err alternate universe version of him) to me just shows how far gone he is.

[@nathank3976]

Injustice Superman shouldn't be too upset about his other universe son hating him, everyone hates Jonathan Kent more. Comic book sales don't lie.

[@loopyfists]

I really don't. Even if I liked super sons alot more, I really dont mind, except for some questionable writing decisions.

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

Modern Spider-Man sells like crazy but the comics are dogshit and people seem to talk up how much they hate them. Comic book sales are a fucking mess not a clean metric to measure quality or popularity.

[@nathank3976]

@@loopyfists Superman having a kid was never a problem for me. It became a problem when they aged him up after he was kidnapped by his Kryptonian grandfather, Jor-El, I believe, the details allude me because I didn't care about the event. What I do know is that when Jonathan was a kid, he was happy, wanted to do the right thing, and be a hero like his dad and hang out with his best friend Damien. When he returned home as an "adult," he returned gay, which raises so many ethical and moral issues. How does a 9 year old know about sexuality and suddenly is gay? The normal that Jonathan would know is between a man (Clark) and a woman (Lois), so this implies that Jonathan was graped by his grandfather for what 10 years which became normal for him. I could never get past this, but I guess the writers could.

[@loopyfists]

@@nathank3976 he's bisexual, but I get what your saying; the concept of them not properly handling the age jump among other nitpicks were things I had a problem with too.

[@CorbCorbin]

@@loopyfists I wouldn’t mind the age jump, if they’d just kept making Super Sons comics, because it was the best main continuity book with Superman and Batman in years. Damian and John were funner to read than their fathers. I just don’t care about the main continuity anymore. I’d rather have great stories, and/or great runs like Super Soms was.

[@pedrocatoira2695]

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[@isaiahthepotato1600]

The weakest superman

[@abdullahhafez9863]

First to be here

[@niteshanthony2324]

If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.❤😊🎉😊❤

[@mavrick8181]

Boring

[@AspenOG]

whats the intro song cause everytime i boot up oke of your videos that tone just plays for the rest of the week

[@AspenOG]

nvm i found it but gonna keep theses comments here for engagement metrics