Inner Workings of Steel Frame Tiny Home Kits

[@ConstructionKronies]

Hey bros, long time metal stud framer first time viewer here! I am fascinated by this. I have a full LISM youtube channel and one of my long time subscribers sent me this link. It's incredible what we can do with steel.

[@JarrodTocci]

Thank you. I wasn’t sold on steel until talking with Damon last year, then ended up buying a tiny home from him. Will definitely be using steal in the near future as well. I’ll go check out your channel

[@paullehto2294]

Oakriidge nation laboratory has done extensive studies with Sophisticated testing equipment and have concluded that steel studs wall assembly Perform much worse than wood stud wall. Wood is also stronger and more fire resistant. Best wall assembly are sip or double frame walls. You could greatly improve a steel studded wall by adding 1” or more rigid to outside of stud. I’m a engineer and have built many award winning energy homes

[@paullehto2294]

No more comments?

[@blairinhemet]

love Emma's story--so sweet

[@mahad8646]

Interesting i didn't know either you just needed a 35 dollar permit to move anything over 8.6 ft wide. Also just to clarify is 10ft wide the limit they make trailers?

[@JarrodTocci]

Good question. Damon actually talked a lot more but I had to cut a lot out (sorry buddy). I just didn’t want this video to be over an hour long. He did mention that their factory has been building 12, 14, and even 16 foot wide. You’d have to talk to him but I’m sure the wider you go the more complicated it will get with moving

[@thetinyhouseexperts]

The permit process is done state by state, CO is $30,missouri is $15,California is $25,etc. At 10',no escort vehicles needed, and usually no CDL Needed for the private load being moved. 75% of our 800 Trailers/year are now 10' wide. Less than 20% are still 8 wide. They're just not popular anymore... People have figured out how much it sucks to pull a tiny house! @thetinyhouseexperts

[@jipyjaje7871]

Hello I like your channel verry good quality always

[@JarrodTocci]

Thank you

[@chrisdaniel1339]

Why don't they build them like expedition vehicles using thick 4" or 6" insulating foam core composite panels for the walls, ceiling, and floor? Foam core composite panels are superior in their insulating ability compared to stick built construction. Even worse is that steel studs are a thermal bridge from the outside to the inside which causes condensation in your walls which is absorbed by fiberglass batts, mineral fiber, cellulose, wool insulation and allows mold to grow and saturated insulation significantly reduces it ability to insulate. Even is spray foam is used there can still be condensation/moisture and mold in the walls.

[@thetinyhouseexperts]

Thank you for your input on this topic! Can you share your example of what you're talking about, specifically? I am interested in this technology you're speaking about with the foam core panels! 🤘

[@chrisdaniel1339]

@@thetinyhouseexperts Sure. So composite panels are nothing new, they have been used in the aerospace, sporting goods, transportation, space launch vehicles, etc where superior strength is required with the least possible weight. Composite panels are made up of a core material that can be foam board such as Divinycell or XPS (extruded polystyrene), honeycomb cores such as Nomex, it can be aluminum honeycomb, carbon fiber honeycomb, balsa wood can be used as a core material. There are multitudes of core materials and even the same core shape like Nomex honeycomb which is made from cellulose(paper) and is saturated with any number of resins to make it perform as intended i.e. phenolic resin is for high temp application. Laid up reinforcing fabrics saturated with resin or epoxy or premade fiberglass or carbon fiber sheets (skins) bonded on each side of the core material is a ‘skin’ material: carbon fiber, S glass, E Glass (types of fiberglass), aramid fiber, Kevlar, wood veneer, etc. Nearly all of the tension and compression loads placed on the panels are in the skins, here is the great part: doubling, tripling, or quadrupling the thickness of the core material gives many factors of increased strength and stiffness for almost no added weight as core materials are filled with air(closed cell foam, honeycomb, etc). SIP's (Structural insulated panels) have been used in construction of post and beam houses and barns for a decades. A thick insulating foam core of 6-8" or more is sandwiched between two pieces of plywood or OSB making a strong, lightweight, self-supporting panel for house construction with an R value much greater than can be achieved by fiberglass batts or similar. So overlanding expedition trucks use a closed cell usually a type of polyurethane foam core 2-3" thick and bonded to GRP (Glass fiber Reinforced plastic) mostly fiberglass skins, but some manufactures use carbon fiber skins to keep weight to a minimum while having an ultra-strong structure. A note about carbon fiber skins, they reduce the ability for cellular phone radio signals to exit a carbon fiber encased structure and reach towers making cell calls from within challenging at best. The skins are chemically bonded at the molecular level to the foam core with epoxy or similar type adhesives, then they are placed in a hydraulic press, or a vacuum bag is used to compress the skins and core to create a super strong, stiff, lightweight, insulating panel, that is self-supporting and has zero thermal bridging. An example of thermal bridging is steel studs in a wall, steel is a conductor of heat/cold so when the winter temp is - 4 degrees Fahrenheit that steel stud is cold even on the inside of the wall where there is moist air from people breathing, gas stoves or ovens when gas is burned, evaporation from cooking, etc. this moist air can condense on the ice cold studs in the walls and there is now moisture in the wall leading to mold and reducing batt type insulations R-value because it is wet. These composite sandwich panels are used for the walls, floor and roof of the living area (habitat or module) of expedition trucks, they could also be used as the platform supporting the sleeping mattress and only need to be supported by cleats around the perimeter of the bed platform. The large panels are not joined with any type of standard fasteners, they are joined using plastic, fiberglass, or aluminum specially made extrusions, the ultra-strong adhesive usually Sikaflex holds the panels into these extrusion that form all of the corners of the living habitat box on the expedition vehicle. With composites panels you do not want to screw into the panel or place rivets as that creates a 'point loads' where delamination of the skins from the core can originate and propagate from. If something absolutory needs to be screwed to the panels threaded inserts or reinforcing material may be added within the panel when the panels are manufactured. Most attachment to the panels is by aluminum 90-degree extruded angle pieces bonded to the floor panels or wall panels and then a screw or bolt connection is made between the aluminum and vertical walls inside for example a kitchen cabinet carcass or similar attachment point. Because these vehicles use composite sandwich panels, they can stay comfortably in outside air temps that are well below zero. If you have any further questions or need more details let me know and we can start an email conversation.

[@paullehto2294]

Look up topolo frp panels. They will precut to match your design, they sell windows , doors, skylights, cabinets and more

[@WilliamJones-ul7ug]

So is 80/20 aluminum weaker then the steel that in (tiny homes) that y'all use for the walls ?

[@lukekao8136]

What do you guys think of the pre-fad tesla tiny houses? good/bad/or just cheap crap? lol