innicycle 1" Threaded to 1 1/8" Threadless Conversion Headset Full Installation: www.innicycle.com

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@1972adrianm
@1972adrianm Жыл бұрын
Nice work! It’s cool to see a professional and meticulous bike mechanic work.
@robertschlumpberger22
@robertschlumpberger22 3 жыл бұрын
This is by far the nicest way to convert a 1 inch threaded fork to a 1 1/8 inch threadless configuration. Excellent piece of engineering and very well executed.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Robert!
@davidfranklinv2860
@davidfranklinv2860 4 жыл бұрын
only 850 views and 22 likes?? this video is great! deserves way more views. well done, good quality!
@deanosaur808
@deanosaur808 Жыл бұрын
Almost 100k now! Just needed time to reach an audience 🥳
@pooksthepossum
@pooksthepossum 2 жыл бұрын
Yup this was the video I was looking for! Extremely helpful for us to update our older bikes. Thanks for the instructions and showing this product.
@fulljackrackoboe
@fulljackrackoboe 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that mechanism is awesome and so well worth it to buy! And you have explained it all very well. Thank you for sharing.
@tatangsm09
@tatangsm09 9 ай бұрын
Clear tutorial installation from threaded 25.4 stem to threadless 28.6 adaptor stem. Nice and easy to do so. Thanks.
@florinsgondea6124
@florinsgondea6124 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Very detailed. Usually I don't like any talking, but this one was useful. Thank you. Job well done.
@cyclesrp2673
@cyclesrp2673 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video, minimal words, well thought out structure to your post. I am in the process of going thread-less on a 70's Tommasini road bike. Very helpful!!!!!
@MultigrainKevinOs
@MultigrainKevinOs 4 ай бұрын
Wow, that is a super slick kit, far cleaner install than the typical converters. Love that you can cut down the steer tube too.
@pa86_
@pa86_ 3 жыл бұрын
Already gave up on threadless stems as most adapters look like crap. Great item and explanation!
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
I was ready to give up, too. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@charliecook7157
@charliecook7157 3 жыл бұрын
These are truly excellent instructions, so clear and so pro!
@kirstenspencer3630
@kirstenspencer3630 2 жыл бұрын
Righty tighty, torque to no more than 15 Newton meters. Good to go.......
@johnrozee2648
@johnrozee2648 4 жыл бұрын
This is a lovely bit of kit Joe! I'll be wanting one in the UK when i start restoration of my Pinarello over the winter.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John! Looking forward to seeing that build!
@laszlobacs9347
@laszlobacs9347 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for. Excellent work. Thanks for sharing.
@tzed2509
@tzed2509 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very clear instructions with pro tips and tricks. Thanks!
@harigunawan8889
@harigunawan8889 3 жыл бұрын
And what I did last month is insert a new pipe which makes my fork heavier than before. I definitely learned something new, thanks!
@CHAMELEON111
@CHAMELEON111 Жыл бұрын
Hi just checking out the fork stem adapter, i do like the design replacing the threaded nut and cup top section. . Ive got a version which you keep the top threaded nut ect and like yours expands in the steerer to secure it. Nice explaining to those who don't know. Cheers Scott
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
Hey Scott, thanks for checking out the video. If you have any questions about the innicycle design or installation I am happy to answer them.
@borisfohrman3133
@borisfohrman3133 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add my 2c about Gravel bike noise. I traveled all over Western Europe on a PX-10 Peugeot WITH tubulars , stumbled on it in a small French town cycle store, the bike looked so beautiful and lonely with Stronglight parts and Mafac center pulls ,Hutchison tubulars. French country roads are even tough for some cars, I survived, had a great culinary adventure, and a Great French 100% bike. Riding skills mater MBT jumps not required.
@recyclespinning9839
@recyclespinning9839 4 жыл бұрын
I actually like the old design. The nut is what locks your adjustment secure on the old design . The threadless rely on the stem to lock your adjustment.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
Innicycle is a hybrid of sorts. The threaded nut is eliminated but you still have a threaded upper race. The bearing preload is locked by the quill because the quill and upper race are fixed together. The threaded upper race carries all of the bearing preload axial load just like it does on a standard threaded headset. The threadless stem plays no role in carrying the bearing preload, same as with a typical threadless adapter. Happy to share more details if you are interested.
@boofuls
@boofuls 4 жыл бұрын
Excellently explained video 👍I watched it and it wasnt even the video I wanted 😂👍
@1dd434
@1dd434 Жыл бұрын
Great video, slick design, easy to understand.
@juanpablocastillolanderos9648
@juanpablocastillolanderos9648 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely nice job, do you sell or have the blue prints. I would like to to make one for my old bike. Thanks a lot
@jdillon8360
@jdillon8360 2 жыл бұрын
Great product and good instructions. Cheers from Australia.
@AmazingChinaToday
@AmazingChinaToday 10 ай бұрын
This is an elegant solution. If you make the exact product in 4130 chromoly steel, instead of aluminum, it should be suitable for older BMX bikes, or any other bike needing maximum durability.
@OnGod1007
@OnGod1007 2 ай бұрын
I can use this on a bmx? I found a old frame and the headtube is 32 mm Show the other conversion kits don't work on it Because there are 34 mm
@simonbailey6592
@simonbailey6592 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Finally a solution to making my master look good with modern kit. Ordering. Looks a doddle to install. I love well designed solutions like this.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers, Simon! If you do have any questions during the installation process, feel free to contact me at joe@jjpne.com
@Stewie4238
@Stewie4238 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC where can i buy it?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
www.innicycle.com or www.forkmods.com for Australia and SE Asia. If in the UK let me know and I’ll send you contact info for our new reseller there.
@GeneralJoshua
@GeneralJoshua 4 жыл бұрын
Very good conversion it will be great for old school BMX if they have one.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
I’m happy to make that happen if you are willing to preorder. Contact me at joe@jjpne.com
@lion39
@lion39 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial! Thank you.
@IceRhino44
@IceRhino44 3 жыл бұрын
Garrison cycles? I was just there tonight at the new loaction in Yorklynn!
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! This video was shot at the Greenville location. The new shop is NICE!
@justinkyle5025
@justinkyle5025 3 жыл бұрын
My crown race puller: A solid wall behind my work bench Laying the steerer tube up against said wall and taking a flat head screw driver as a punch until it becomes loose 😂
@Joooooooooolz
@Joooooooooolz 4 жыл бұрын
Great detailed video. Thank you!
@rajeshpodhanandh2348
@rajeshpodhanandh2348 4 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this for my old school MTB. Many Thanks
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Which bike and what else do you have planned for it?
@rajeshpodhanandh2348
@rajeshpodhanandh2348 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC I have my 20 year old MTB. It's has a steel frame, 26" wheels and a rigid fork. Planning to upsize the tyres, suspension fork, thread less headset, changing pedals, changing brakes, installing a gear set and disk brakes. Probably may go for a paint if required. I don't have a workshop so have to manage doing all at home with what tools I have.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
@@rajeshpodhanandh2348 It is fairly easy to improvise most tools for installing a new headset. With the innicycle, just be sure to use an appropriate size tool for pressing on the crown race otherwise you risk damaging the dust seal groove. A 26-28mm hole drilled in a wood block plus a piece of tubing long enough to reach above the steerer tube will do just fine.
@rajeshpodhanandh2348
@rajeshpodhanandh2348 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC Thanks for your guidance. Really Appreciated!
@rpersaud562
@rpersaud562 2 жыл бұрын
i really love this design and the finish on this but i am struggling with the price tag of $140 when comparable adaptors sell for 20$, like the one from "Profile Designs". I really wanted to buy this but couldn't justify the price.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
I can't help it. Every time I open YT Studio I see this comment... I must respond :-) I'll keep it short and sweet: Yes, there are $20 threadless adapters available. No, they are not 'comparable' to an innicycle headset.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
Currently estimated that by September 2020, innicycle headsets will again be readily available in both colors. Get those restomod builds planned!
@DevanSisson
@DevanSisson 4 жыл бұрын
Are you taking preorders for them?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
@@DevanSisson Yes, send me an email at joe@jjpne.com and I’ll get you set up.
@jeralynnavia6333
@jeralynnavia6333 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC is this available in the philippines
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeralynnavia6333 I can ship anywhere in the world. I have no direct distributor in the Philippines, though. Working on getting distribution out of Australia and should have that worked out in the coming months.
@philippreu7583
@philippreu7583 4 жыл бұрын
I am interested. Is there stock available in silver?
@seitenryu6844
@seitenryu6844 Жыл бұрын
One aspect which is both a benefit and potential safety issue, is that the stem is not retained by a top cap. For some, that's an advantage when traveling(no headset adjustment to make, only loosen stem bolts to remove), but if the bolts come loose while riding, your bars come right off. I suppose it's similar in safety to a quill stem though. Did you use a conical wedge to reduce the possibility of forces potentially loosening the adjustment? I'd expected to see an angled wedge.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
Threadless stems were never designed to be retained by the top cap. The top cap is strictly for setting preload on the bearings and would be an unnecessary feature for an innicycle (though you can still add one for aesthetic purposes). The conical wedge is used to help keep the quill portion concentric with the fork’s steerer tube and ensure smooth bearing rotation. There must necessarily be some gap between the two parts and an angled wedge forces the quill all the way to one side unlike the cone.
@ericsondmd
@ericsondmd 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Subscribed
@deanosaur808
@deanosaur808 Жыл бұрын
I don't have any of these special tools 😱 Just used a big screwdriver, hammer, piece of tube, and a block of wood 😅 The bike survived!
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
The right tools just make sure the job gets done properly every time. And it sure helps to be seen using those tools when a customer pops in to check on their bike 😀
@PaulLangmead
@PaulLangmead 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the metric measurements! Is there a dealer for this product in Europe? I haven't been able to find anything so far.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been designing in metric for 20+ years! Sadly no distributors in Europe yet. But I am happy to ship overseas.
@robertschlumpberger22
@robertschlumpberger22 3 жыл бұрын
Paul, I found it in Australia.
@brazzerssoraka6974
@brazzerssoraka6974 Жыл бұрын
Hello! Love that this product exists. I'm building up an old Sears Spaceliner for my mother. Likely would be purchasing the BMX version. We love the idea of changing the top stem cap for aesthetic purposes. Is this possible with this conversion? Thank you
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
While you are not able to change the original top cap, the latest Schwinn headsets allow you to add on a top cap of your choice for aesthetic purposes. Reach out to joe@synamas.com for more details. The BMX headset is designed to allow routing the front brake cable through the headset. You could use it but I don’t think that’s the result you are after.
@tongalizia3175
@tongalizia3175 8 ай бұрын
Derosa customer since 1972 and this the best damn conversion I’ve seen. What’s the name of the company that produced the stem???
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 8 ай бұрын
The product featured in the video is the innicycle threadless conversion headset. Visit www.innicycle.com to order one!
@londonpickering8675
@londonpickering8675 2 жыл бұрын
That is slick! Thanks for posting this vid!
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@shhhdontshout
@shhhdontshout 4 жыл бұрын
Does it meant, from 1" steer tube fork, now this vintage bike can use 1-1/8" steer tube fork?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
The innicycle headset is for those who want to keep their original threaded fork but use it with 1 1/8” threadless stems, and without all the compromises of a typical threadless adapter.
@namewastaken2
@namewastaken2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm going to do this to my old Schwinn.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
How old of a Schwinn? Some of the real old ones used a smaller diameter quill than the standard innicycle. This can be accommodated but will be a special order.
@marsmars8857
@marsmars8857 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC there is someone on ebay selling machined 1 inch threaded headset conversion to 1 1/8 threadless for vintage schwinn.. I wonder how they do it..
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
Link? Innicycle now offers a Schwinn/BMX option as a standard. Schwinn headtubes are big enough to fit a 1 1/8” threadless fork, though, at 32.5mm. They may simply be modifying standard threadless headsets by cutting down the press-fit portion to that size.
@marsmars8857
@marsmars8857 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC sounds logical 👍
@Vip-db2mq
@Vip-db2mq 3 жыл бұрын
top top top ótima solução dando assim opção pra quem queira usar o haed set em garfo stande mantendo o garfo original parabéns meu amigo onde consigo esse adaptador ? ganhou mais um inscrito gosto de mais desse videos das nossas queridas vintage...
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
Contact me at joe@jjpne.com or visit www.forkmods.com (best for SE Asia/Australia customers)
@joaobikes
@joaobikes 2 жыл бұрын
Achei surreal essa invenção. A única possibilidade de usar um garfo de rosca standard com caixa de direção aheadset era pela ideia do Pedaleria, de usar um tubo de alumínio (tarugo) dentro do canote do garfo (o Edu Capivara fez isso quando transformou a Caloi 10 em gravel). Mas o canal Pedaleria não se deu ao trabalho de informar o diâmetro exato para os inscritos adotar o mesmo procedimento. Ou seja, a gente acaba tendo que medir e comprar no erro/acerto, até funcionar. Vou procurar, agora, esse adaptador do vídeo, que achei bem legal também, e mais seguro inclusive.
@adamhaiqal9364
@adamhaiqal9364 3 жыл бұрын
you deserve more subs man.. great video
@HawkGuy82
@HawkGuy82 3 жыл бұрын
Superb quality video!
@AmazingChinaToday
@AmazingChinaToday 2 жыл бұрын
If you hold the front wheel between your legs, and try to rotate the handlebars and stem, are you able to rotate them?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
Properly tightened, no, the handlebars should not rotate. Does that answer your question?
@AmazingChinaToday
@AmazingChinaToday 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC Yes, thanks! Currently I can turn my handlers with a quill stem tightened almost to the point of stripping the bolt.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of possible causes. An innicycle may solve the issue, or it may not, depending on what is going on. The most common cause of your scenario is that the quill is inserted too far into the fork placing the wedge in a butted portion of the tube. If that could be the case on yours, try raising the stem 10-20mm and see if that helps.
@iamdjsluggo
@iamdjsluggo 3 жыл бұрын
Who makes the adaptor and where can I get one?! Excellent video. Subbed!
@nonym7596
@nonym7596 3 жыл бұрын
Innicycles, its 125$ though
@ajg52100
@ajg52100 Жыл бұрын
Man , I wish they made this for 1 1/8 threaded forks.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
Well, we just happen to be working on exactly that! Contact me at joe@synamas.com for more info about how and when you can get your hands on one.
@MasDito
@MasDito 4 жыл бұрын
i think convert 1" threaded headset to 1 1/8 threadless headset, evidently convert 1" threaded to 1" threadless but add some customize usually, i add same size pipe to the steerer fork, so it longer than before, and i install headset 1" threadless too, and install stem oversize but add a converter ( some iron plat ) so stem can fit in the steerer fork
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a much more involved conversion! With an innicycle headset you can always remove it and go back to a quill stem if you ever so desired.
@MasDito
@MasDito 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC oh yes, good idea.. bu that conversion kit, there is no here in Indonesia..
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
I can ship them internationally. Contact me at joe@jjpne.com if you are interested in purchasing one.
@cedrickcaceres9761
@cedrickcaceres9761 Жыл бұрын
May we know the name of that sealed bearing headset& extension that you used?, I wonder if there's any available one in our country , your video was so great and helpful btw
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! It is an innicycle headset available at www.innicycle.com and shipped worldwide.
@borisfohrman3133
@borisfohrman3133 4 жыл бұрын
Video is excellent
@MarshWaha
@MarshWaha 2 жыл бұрын
If only this product wasn’t so expensive, but then that money may be worth it maybe.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
Black headsets are shipping again with silver available, too. $125 plus applicable shipping. Visit www.innicycle.com to order.
@white_truck3820
@white_truck3820 5 ай бұрын
Is there a minimum spec for the amount of threads on the fork steerer? My work only has about 19mm of threads. Also, my fork has an aluminum steerer. Is this acceptable?
@8draco8
@8draco8 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue I see is the top cup. Top cup should be designed the other way around because in this case it makes extremely easy for water to get into the bearings. Apart from that this conversion is pointless especially for $140. This beautifully engineered and very expensive does the same what $10-$20 threadless converter from Amazon does. I ride 90s MTBs with such converters, sometimes doing stupid things on single tracks and I never had it fail on me, and that's for 1/10th of price of this kit. IMHO if you need the looks go for it but if you only want to put 1 1/8" threadless stem on your old bike, just buy simple adapter, it does the same thing.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
The top cup features a tortuous path design plus both an inner dust seal and sealed cartridge bearings. That’s not to say water can’t get in but it will be anything but ‘extremely easy’. For $125 at www.innicycle.com you get a threadless setup with unrivaled looks, low weight, and robustness plus a fresh, modern headset. It isn’t for every build but there’s no comparable product on the market.
@singletona082
@singletona082 3 жыл бұрын
What makes this product more desirable than the cheapie quill to threadless converters? I personally have a walmart bike who's frame I love and plan to best the daylights out of til I replace those with better. For me the fact the thing is quill and 27.5 concerns me as 'how the hell am I gonna replace the fork on this thing?'
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
The innicycle is for those who want the best looking, lightest, and stiffest way to use a threadless stem with a threaded fork. I have no experience with installing one on a Walmart bike so if you plan to purchase one please take measurements with calipers of the relevant areas (headtube inner diameter, quill diameter, crown race diameter, steerer tube and head tube length) to confirm compatibility.
@singletona082
@singletona082 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC oh I have no doubt yours is the better product. I apologize if I came off as dismissive. I am simply trying to figure out best options and 'wjy this or that' The real trick is going to find a one inch fork to replace the factory fork.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
@@singletona082 I’m not sure this is the product for you. You mention ‘27.5’. Where are you measuring that diameter? As for finding a 1” replacement fork, the idea with this conversion headset is to allow an original fork (typically matched to the frame in geometry and paint) to continue to be used. When replacement fork is a must, there are more options especially if the end goal is using a threadless stem.
@singletona082
@singletona082 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC I'm just thinking ahead to 'when the current parts break's is all. Threadless headsets are more common and give better sizig and positioning options than quill.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
@@singletona082 Just to be clear, this isn’t a threadless headset. It won’t fit a threadless fork. If you were to be replacing a fork and wanting a threadless stem, you would be best served by buying a threadless fork. If you found the perfect threaded fork but wanted a threadless stem, an innicycle headset could be for you.
@brianparadillo398
@brianparadillo398 10 ай бұрын
excellent video, and also where can i find that headset??? u guys have link to that product online???
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 10 ай бұрын
Glad you like it! Headsets are available for purchase at www.innicycle.com
@brianparadillo398
@brianparadillo398 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH @@JJPELLC
@12.cabilteslaurisses.31
@12.cabilteslaurisses.31 3 жыл бұрын
Well done
@michaelneutert2713
@michaelneutert2713 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I have 2 questions, spare bearings are on the shop or only full set? And how much cost the head set with delivering to the czech republic thank you
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
The bearings used are a very common size for which I can provide specs. If you are concerned about replacements, make a note on your order and I’ll arrange for a spare set. www.innicycle.com
@cesarsoto852
@cesarsoto852 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job !
@johnhawkins1518
@johnhawkins1518 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find that adapter you used that attaches to the steerer tube??
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
Email me at joe@jjpne.com or visit www.forkmods.com
@benjaminborstad3064
@benjaminborstad3064 3 жыл бұрын
Would this work on a French threaded fork?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
French innicycle conversions are currently in production. Please contact me at joe@jjpne.com if you’d like more details or want to preorder. Silver (and a few black) headsets will be available in about 4 weeks.
@robinoconnor1203
@robinoconnor1203 4 жыл бұрын
I did a similar conversion recently, not with the kit you used as I have never seen that before. I converted a Principia frame with a 1 inch steerer tube to fit carbon forks. The new headset an M Part kit that I ordered, the cups both top and bottom were a little over 1 mm too small, hence were a very loose fit, I tried another different make kit that was the same. I had to shim the cups to make them a secure fit, something I am still unhappy about. Is there more than one bearing cup size for 1 inch steerer tubes? my local bike shops and a cycling forum have come up blank.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, it sounds like you have a frame designed for a 1 1/8” fork. What is the ID of the headtube? If intended for a 1” fork, it should be 30-30.2mm.
@cory4152
@cory4152 2 жыл бұрын
What is the difference? This is so you can upgrade handle bars? I am looking to put 1 1/8" forks into a 1" steering tube is that possible?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
1 1/8” forks in a 1” frame is generally impossible with a few specific exceptions but still requiring some custom work. The innicycle lets you retain your original fork while seamlessly converting to a 1 1/8” threadless stem (the most common option these days).
@garytragura7232
@garytragura7232 3 жыл бұрын
where do i get Headset Conversion like that ?? -Philippines
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
www.forkmods.com is your best option. I can fulfill from the USA as well but transit time will be far longer. Email joe@jjpne.com if you want to discuss further
@upward_onward
@upward_onward 3 жыл бұрын
So the cup that is being installed in the Headtube is 1 1/8 inches ?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
No, everything related to the fork, the headset cups, and the bearings is 1" (necessitated by the 1" headtube). The extended steerer at the top is 1 1/8", though.
@rindosironi8118
@rindosironi8118 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know where to get the innicycle headset but this kind of video is what I am looking for to help with my chomoly steel Bianchi that I am restoring and upgrading. What are the compromises of the typical threadless adapter?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rindo, basic threadless adapters compromise on stiffness, weight, and aesthetics compared to an innicycle headset. They are cheap and easy to install but that’s where the plusses end, in my opinion.
@ronmatthews1738
@ronmatthews1738 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC Functionally this conversion works the same as a threadless adapter regardless of the cost and time incurred in changing the headset.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
@@ronmatthews1738 Well, you have pointed out an obvious downside: that one needs to change the headset to use it. Relative to the process of a full rebuild of a vintage bike, the extra time commitment is fairly minimal, though. As far as ‘functionally the same’, I can only agree that you are correct, as correct as you’d be saying the same thing about Claris and Dura Ace.
@ronmatthews1738
@ronmatthews1738 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC Given that this conversion is twice the cost of a Chris King headset I would hope it is of good quality. However, if the original headset is good quality I would find it hard to justify the huge cost of this conversion over a ten dollar adapter.
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
@@ronmatthews1738 How much do you think an innicycle headset costs? There’s seems to be some misunderstanding.
@anuwatchotmanee968
@anuwatchotmanee968 2 жыл бұрын
ผมอยู่ประเทศไทย ผมอยากได้สิ่งนี้มากเลย
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
We are happy to ship to Thailand even from the USA (www.innicycle.com) or Australia (www.forkmods.com). Contact me at joe@jjpne.com with any questions.
@therepresentative1619
@therepresentative1619 4 жыл бұрын
Do they make a conversion for old school bmx?Like 80's gt,haro,hutch....?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
All that it would require is special cups to fit the oversized headtubes of BMX frames. Are you interested in such a setup to the point that you’d preorder? I can make it happen if you are.
@rickmancini772
@rickmancini772 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for the video. Does the stem cap sit over the stem, as in a conventional thread less system?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
No, much like a typical threadless adapter, the cap is there for tightening the quill into the steerer only and is not used for applying downward pressure on the stem. The cap is the same diameter as the steerer portion of the headset (1 1/8"). The steerer portion can be trimmed such that the cap is flush with the top of the stem like this: flic.kr/p/26YZ1SE
@rickmancini772
@rickmancini772 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC thx Joe - no concerns about using the stem bolts only to secure the stem?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickmancini772 Nope. Plenty of other designs doing the same thing (threadless adapters, steerer tube extenders for threadless). In a typical threadless system, the stem's clamp bolts do all the work of both keeping the bearings preloaded and holding the stem to the steerer. A true threadless top cap is only necessary for preloading the bearings prior to tightening the stem's clamp bolts. After that it can be removed without affecting anything.
@rickmancini772
@rickmancini772 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC thanks!
@magicdog5623
@magicdog5623 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, what headset did you use? Am I right in thinking your fork steerer tube has D. of 25.4 mm?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
Fork steerer tube is 1” threaded (25.4 mm ). An innicycle (www.innicycle.com) headset was used to convert it to 1 1/8” threadless.
@magicdog5623
@magicdog5623 Жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC I managed to see the logo when you were fitting it. Looks a great 2 for 1 component. Unfortunately I don't see any available in the uk
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
We ship to the UK for a flat fee of $25 per order.
@iSOLATEDQ
@iSOLATEDQ Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to convert threadless to threaded stem? Do you need a threaded fork?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
Yes, the easiest way to achieve using a quill stem on a bike is to start with a threaded fork. I am sure that with enough effort you could make it work with just about any fork but I’ll leave that to your imagination.
@commondominator4413
@commondominator4413 3 жыл бұрын
Would this work on a threaded fork with an inner fork measurement of 21.1mm? Is this only for 22.2mm?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
Please contact me at joe@jjpne.com. The short answer is 'yes' a 21.1mm fork can be accommodated.
@TrickMini
@TrickMini 2 жыл бұрын
1 1/8" Threadless Headset X 32.5mm is there such a thing out there?
@stevek731
@stevek731 3 жыл бұрын
Why do I want to do this? I thought I wanted to replace the fork with a carbon fork with a 1" steering tube? Is it just to be able to use a modern stem and handlebars?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
Innicycle headsets are for those who want to use a threadless stem with their (typically) original threaded fork but want better aesthetics and performance (stiffness, light weight) than a standard threadless adapter. Perhaps also for when someone doesn’t necessarily want a threadless stem but recognizes that the 31.8mm quill stems are either lacking in options, lacking in aesthetics, or very expensive for what you are getting. There are other minor benefits like allowing a lower handlebar position than any other option and offering a cartridge bearing headset as part of the package.
@gileshectorytom9932
@gileshectorytom9932 3 жыл бұрын
Can I apply stem adapter on that?
@shamgardeandeansandalo4699
@shamgardeandeansandalo4699 4 жыл бұрын
wowww..been looking for this kit,,,what do you exactly call that conversion adapter? is it branded, which brand...hope I can find that here in the Philippines
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! It’s an innicycle threadless conversion headset. You can purchase direct from me (designer and manufacturer) or from Forkmods.com (based in Australia).
@johnramiagui1245
@johnramiagui1245 9 ай бұрын
Where are can I found this product? Who’s the manufacturers?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 9 ай бұрын
The headset is available at www.innicycle.com
@docfloc
@docfloc 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff.
@dawiskid187
@dawiskid187 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I fine the headset parts?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
www.forkmods.com or contact me at joe@jjpne.com
@socialfreak6900
@socialfreak6900 3 жыл бұрын
will this work for a headtube that is 32.5mm in diameter?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
In about two weeks it will (BMX-size cups are in process as we speak). Black only for now. Contact me at joe@jjpne.com and I can give you more details.
@nmunthe
@nmunthe 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, Can i know link to buy that adaptor? Regards
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
www.innicycle.com for Americas and Europe. www.forkmods.com for SE Asia/Australia.
@kke
@kke 3 ай бұрын
Ok now how to install 1" 1/8 fork to a 1" headset? :)
@erasmosilva3424
@erasmosilva3424 2 жыл бұрын
Belas ferramentas!!!
@kris8165
@kris8165 Жыл бұрын
Hi! What I would like to know,is, can you put actual 1.1/8" fork in that headset! Not adapter on the 1 inch fork,but the actual modern 28.6 steerer fork? Aluminum or carbon or steel, doesn't matter... Greetings from Croatia from Kris 😊
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
No, the innicycle is strictly for using a 1 1/8” threadless stem with a 1” (or 25 mm) fork and respective frame/headtube.
@kris8165
@kris8165 Жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC Thank you very much for your help! I was reading that there are actual threaded to threadless conversion headsets,so I will try to get one if available!
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC Жыл бұрын
For a typical 1” frame with a ~30 mm ID headtube it is impossible to fit a 1 1/8” fork. If you have a 32.5 mm ID headtube you can modify a 1 1/8” threadless headset to work.
@kris8165
@kris8165 Жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC Thank you very much for that information! 😊 I will remove the lower cup,and I'll measure the inner diameter!
@DivineMisterAdVentures
@DivineMisterAdVentures Жыл бұрын
The answer is absolutely yes. But you'll either have to replace the head tube on the frame or the steering tube on the fork. I'm looking for the procedures to see it done right before I sink in. I imagine keeping the one-inch threaded - it may drop right into place in the new forks and only need a bushing and weld. But so far - nobody knows.
@paulsbailey
@paulsbailey Жыл бұрын
Nice headset.
@bandguy360
@bandguy360 2 жыл бұрын
So you dont need any existing original parts ie crown race, cups etc to use this kit?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, it comes with everything you need to use a threadless stem with your choice of frame and fork. We even have a French version now with M25x1mm threads, 22.0mm quill, and a specially sized crown race.
@bandguy360
@bandguy360 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC thanks so much for your response, I am new to the vintage road world and am getting a little overwhelmed builing an early 80s peugeot. Which kit should I buy
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
You very likely need the French version given the age and manufacturer. If you have calipers to measure that will tell you for sure. All you really need to check is the steerer tube outer diameter: 25mm = French, 25.4mm = ISO
@bandguy360
@bandguy360 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC thank you sooo much!
@salskars6637
@salskars6637 Жыл бұрын
Well done. TY
@marioolivares1432
@marioolivares1432 3 жыл бұрын
I have a frame Águila de Táchira where can contact to try this potencia for buy
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
joe@jjpne.com
@beardymike77
@beardymike77 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a version suitable for old 1 1/8th threaded forks on old MTB's? Would be great for gravel conversions!
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
This has come up in the past and is something I'd consider if there was enough interest. In order to achieve the same threadless look like the current unit it would require a 1 1/4" threadless stem, though. That plus the availability of 1 1/8" threadless forks makes me feel like interest would be low. But I'm happy to be wrong!
@beardymike77
@beardymike77 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC That's a bummer - I thought you might say that! Might be worth looking at how you could arrange the system? There's an absolute tonne of old Mtb's out there begging to be made into good gravel bikes!
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
@@beardymike77 With my focus always on the road side of things, perhaps I've ignored a major market on the MTB side. Which major brands of mid to high-end MTBs used 1 1/8" threaded forks?
@beardymike77
@beardymike77 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC All of them at one point! Marin, Gary Fischer, Trek, Specialised, GT, literally most of them. I think the main one bucking the trend was 'Dale, because they always do their own thing. For people wanting to update their old bikes, the issue is that most stems for MTB's are now threadless and most bars are 31.8 clamp... most quill stems have small clamps and do not have a removable faceplate making it not entirely obvious that even a pair of humble riser bars will fit a stem without levering the clamp open with a prybar. All thats available is quill converters which look horrible... If you could manage to make a converter for 1 1/8" forks (not sure what the quill dia would be? 28mm something?) with a 1 1/8th extension out the top you'd be onto a winner...
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
@@beardymike77 Maintaining the 1 1/8" extension is the issue. In order to create a headset that works like the original innicycle, I need to thread over the fork but still maintain that as usable clamping space for the stem. In threading over a 1 1/8" fork it is geometrically-impossible to maintain a 1 1/8" clamp diameter. Using a 1 1/4" clamp diameter stem solves the problem but are customers going to accept that? Your thoughts? They are available for a reasonable price: www.ebay.com/itm/324190760983
@melvyncervera7071
@melvyncervera7071 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible video and love your headset adaptor. Where can I buy a headset adaptor like that. - Philippines
@ogamogam6418
@ogamogam6418 4 жыл бұрын
Bro my steer tube is 8 inch while the steer fork is 7inch I can't lock it with the threaded headset any help here
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
Can you get more exact measurements? The shortest fork to headtube difference I typically recommend is 27mm. 25mm (1 inch) is under that so I’d say no if that is the case.
@predator1820
@predator1820 3 жыл бұрын
Where could i buy the stem adapter
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
www.innicycle.com or www.forkmods.com (Australia -based reseller)
@ArthurD
@ArthurD 3 жыл бұрын
Had to use VPN to access the website, is this normal?
@RoFrMa
@RoFrMa 9 ай бұрын
not all oldschool 1" frames accept 1 1/8 cups. you must make the hole bigger by putting the frame in a lathe
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 9 ай бұрын
As much as I’d love to see a frame in a lathe, you won’t need one to install an innicycle headset. The cups are the standard size for a 1” headtube (30.2 mm). Have you watched the full video to see what the conversion entails? The only 1 1/8”-sized feature is external to the frame.
@francissobotka8725
@francissobotka8725 4 ай бұрын
I still think it does not have enough engagement with the steertube
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 ай бұрын
How much is ‘enough’?
@TheUrzur
@TheUrzur 2 жыл бұрын
How can that be 1 1/8" if you use the same fork (1")?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 2 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the whole video?
@drewlineses2294
@drewlineses2294 3 жыл бұрын
Can this work on a threaded bmx?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Black only for now. Contact me at joe@jjpne.com for more info.
@sawnaywin4162
@sawnaywin4162 3 жыл бұрын
Hello :) Where can I buy this Headset part?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 3 жыл бұрын
Contact me at joe@jjpne.com or visit www.forkmods.com (best for SE Asia/Australia customers)
@DarthPingu07
@DarthPingu07 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, how much and can you ship to the UK?
@JJPELLC
@JJPELLC 4 жыл бұрын
$125 plus shipping if going international. I am happy to ship anywhere in the world.
@hardtzytiangco6719
@hardtzytiangco6719 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJPELLC where i can buy this tube connector
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