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“Today were going to dive deep in Battlefield 2042’s mechanics and….yeah nah it’s bad”
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[@SwaggerSouls]

Matt and video essays hittin like peanut butter and chocolate fr fr 🔥

[@inanis9801]

Mmmm Anaphylactic shock delicious

[@NortmanCA]

your mom is peanut butter and chocolate

[@Unyko]

keep this at 420 likes please

[@iiRoot_]

bruh thats not a compliment

[@FloatyGhostGaming]

Fr man

[@VamshiOhgs]

This reminds of when SovietWomble, another "gaming funny moments" based KZbinr made a series of video essays on survival focusing titles, it's always nice to see people make serious and quality content about topics they are deeply interested, great stuff mate!!

[@twotails]

His editing is literally icing on the cake…

[@jesseguzman4032]

Don’t you love it when people just speak their mind out on topics they are passionate about

[@medqua]

Exactly!

[@coffeezingames6051]

I think the best example of being able to tell enemies from allies apart is Battlefield 1. Because of the distinctive ww1 uniforms, you can tell if a soldier is on your team or on the enemy team even from a long distance by just looking at the color of their uniform

[@vetbaitednv]

another reason tf2 is the greatest fps ever created

[@RSpracticalshooting]

@@vetbaitednv bro the only people who have cared about that game in the last 5 years are people with hat fetishes who can't afford to buy a better game.

[@Mis73rRand0m]

Hell you can just look at what helmet they are wearing and know - not just what team but in most cases what class they are. Want to know if you're targeting a sniper or an assault player who is head glitching? Easy, just look at their helmet. Almost as if AAA devs were bought right out of design/art school and haven't played AN FPS, let alone the one they are working on.

[@SolazLive]

@@RSpracticalshooting What you on about? Tf 2 is still the best team based shooter(without vehicles) I tired CS:go, siege, COD, and battle royal type ones. TF2 Is still the most fun after I tried it again after years of not playing it

[@lustrazor44]

@@vetbaitednv not even remotely close to the best shooter. Shooters need good shooting mechanics and impactful feeling weapons. Tf2 lacks that hardcore. It’s just a goofy tools team game. It’s barely a shooter.

[@davidmendenhall4090]

I liked BF1's classes. BF1 medic is probably my favorite class in the franchise. Only problem with it was support never carried repair tools, cause they had the ammo crate. Crazy how Dice gets in trouble design-wise and just throws more and more features from the successful games out the window.

[@kirillholt2329]

I prefer bf3 class system, but bf1 is second favorite

[@Sidewinder1996]

@@kirillholt2329 my favorite was the bf4 class system because it allowed some fun sub-classes to help find certain subroles.

[@kirillholt2329]

@@Sidewinder1996 that feels like bc2 to me

[@fnhatic6694]

The Engineer class wasn't successful, that's stupid. There was literally no reason to play Assault in BF3/BF4. The carbines were literally just slightly different assault rifles, some were straight upgrades to assault rifles. If you didn't care about reviving/healing, you instead had the only anti-tank weapon in the game, which doubled as a direct-fire instagib grenade launcher. You had other gadgets as well in BF4. Outside of the paddles, who cares, why would you ever play Assault, which promised to leave you totally defenseless against vehicles?

[@magus1243]

While BF1 was awesome, the removal of the engineer class shows the spiral to where we are now

[@willypro4949]

I remember I was called a hero in BF3 when I would revive and give ammo, plus the points and ribbon incentives made WANT to take care of my team and it was a legit way to level up

[@rabbitsfoot8]

nobody revives or gives ammo in 2042

[@patrickharris6720]

Never thought I’d see the day. Welcome back, king. We missed you.

[@Jujudo]

was just thinking the same thing

[@dutbud9049]

I didn't :)

[@michaelwesten4624]

king of old cs videos returned for one last time

[@richard-er6zn]

@@dutbud9049 ok

[@be.a.7462]

They should jsut made these “specialists” tied to the class system as a whole… yes it would disrupt balance to a degree but only add additional flavor to what specialists offer what , yes it would be another overwatch but it would’ve made more sense for the dev team to do so rather than gut the entire system for what they advertised on offer….

[@iNoToRiOuS]

This originally started out as just a "quick" and "short" video for my side channel lol (I understand some of this info might be outdated after 7 months, but I feel like that's passable considering how little has changed overall in 7 months) Don't forget my car channel btw! Keep an eye out for a new upload there soon™ kzbin.info

[@SonekR]

I can't believe you're back

[@AKK5I]

Nice, subbed

[@AdityaSingh-lp5rp]

YOURE BACK I LOVE YOU

[@anothertallbruv8665]

Welcome back

[@marcushedemann6142]

Nice editing, oh and btw great skits luv the New vid bro.

[@HaugeBauge]

The specialist system was stupid from the start. In a game where anyone can use any weapon, any secondary weapon, and any secondary gadget, its stupid to have “heroes”. The point of heroes in games are to have unique playstyles, but in battlefield, the point of heroes is to pick you passive and primary gadget (and looks). At that point, you might as well just make them subclasses for the already existing role system.

[@goatman9499]

Shoulda been like seige with the specialist with ony a few options for each one to make them stand out in playstyle more. Yeah that totally sound like battlefield to me 😂

[@Dregomz02]

They wanted to create another overwatch to sell skins but forget it's a battlefield and roles along with nation skins were always distinct and easily detectable. Now there are no nations just team a and b with everyone taking whatever weapon kits and gadgets they want it's a mess,you can't recognize that someone is medic or support or sniper at glance and gameplay suffers due that. Dice already gave up on updates for this game it did happen even quicker than bf5 at least half had really enjoyable tank combat while bf2042 has zero redeeming values. At this point ea will kill them after they mess battlefield one last time honestly it may not be a bad idea it's better to close studio than to keep desecrating rotting corpse every new game.

[@Jestersage]

More correctly speaking, it's more or less Apex's system. Each hero (Legends) have 1 passive (itself may be multi purpose), 1 tactical, and 1 Ult, and then you pick up whatever gun that happens to lie around. Even in the Control (domination), though you can pick one of the 5 weapon kit, you can still pick up dropped guns withotu changing your entire legend. The biggest problem with chasing Apex, however, is that it is already in EA. They are basically making the same portfolio instead of having variations.

[@HaugeBauge]

@@Jestersage true, except apex legends are still much more unique and varied. They have 2 unique abilites and a passive, wheras specialist only have 1 ability thats not especially unqiue (Sundance is just a more complicated grenade and Lis is just a guided rocket launcher). Over half of the "unique" abilites from specialist already exist in some shape or form in either this or previous battlefield titles.

[@manuxx3543]

It only kinda makes sense in a weird battleroyal

[@LateNightHalo]

16:33 I disagree. 2042 feels more like it tries to ape off of Modern warfare 2019. Movement feels like it’s trying to be twitchy and arcade-y like cod.. nothing has weight Part of why I dislike it is BECAUSE it’s not heavy feeling… it feels like a facsimile of Cod.. not battlefield

[@shosc16]

100% agreed. It’s not slow, it’s hyper fast and Arcady with no weight in running, turning, mounting, vaulting etc

[@spikef1114]

I can see where you're coming from as it sometimes does seem like it's trying emulate MW19 but overall to me it just feels sluggish, slow, unresponsive. The opposite of MW19.

[@jermu8706]

lmfao have you ever played bf4? Idk what you do in the game, but im fucking jumping around doing 180s and killing shit like i have an exosuit or something. bf2042 sucks ass, but that has to be the weakest argument for why. The gunplay is what makes it feel like cod and not battlefield, not the movement

[@I666I]

Movement and damage should me like in Escape from Tarkov tbh. What bothered me in Battlefield 4 the most is that sniper rifles didn't oneshot to the body, except 2 snipers that you could pick up on some maps. It's just bad weapon balance, and not only on the snipers, that's why most people always play the AEK and that oneshot shotgun in close combat. Just like the fact, that headshots dont oneshot with every weapon, it discourages skill and aim and encourages playing the best weapons, like the ones I mentioned. Getting some sweet long headshots with assault rifles with zoom scopes would be nice, but no, the opponents just keep running like marathon athletes after getting hit in the head lulz.

[@user-ce3zv9oj2d]

What are you talking about? Since when Battlefield has ''heavy feeling'' in the movement? Especially Battlefield 4 where you can sprint 24/7 like flash with full military gear while jumping the whole time without getting tired. How is that heavy movement? Still beats COD's sliding fest though.

[@Danymok]

Damn that was a sick spotting montage!

[@wantsomeburger8961]

Trying to gain likes eh?

[@Danymok]

@@wantsomeburger8961 I don't see what's wrong with making a comment on a video about a game series I love, especially that the comment was relevant to the l video. Do you have something against me?

[@wantsomeburger8961]

@@Danymok :)

[@wantsomeburger8961]

@@Danymok I thought ur a bot but oh well....

[@iplaygames4179]

@@wantsomeburger8961 Have a look at the channel before assuming things

[@RaeuberFotzenRotz]

I’ve recently gotten back into bf1 and bf4 an noticed how easy it is to climb the leaderboard when you just do your role and capture flags, whereas others try to get as many kills without healing or resupplying and ending up on the bottom of the leaderboard.

[@irvingceron1016]

On the island map in bf4 I went 0-8 and got first place for healing and taking objectives. Number 2 was a guy on a jet who went 43-0. We demolished the other team lol

[@Canalbiruta]

This whole bf2042 debacle is really getting me itchy to recon again in bf4. I must say, bf3 ws easily one of the best times i had with online gaming alongside splatoon 1

[@lemmonboy6459]

One TERRIBLE change I noticed in BF5 was the removal of the performance board from BF1. The happiness in your team being able to see your 50 revives in a match is always nice. But BF5 not ONLY removed the board, but also removed the ability to even SEE your revives at all. It just feels like supporting the team is discouraged in these new BF games

[@noneyabusiness368]

I haven't stopped playing Bf4, I pre-ordered 2042 played it for a few weeks it sucked went back to Bf4 with plenty of servers to keep me happy.

[@Cnupoc]

Amen

[@MineBorder10444]

I'm glad someone actually made a video with points to why the new battlefield is bad to past ones. Usually, people just say it's only bad because of specialists but finally, someone actually explains why they are bad. Great Vid Notorious!

[@konradzukowski213]

I feel like it has to with people assuming that just mentioning the thing will be enough. "Specialists bad" and that's all that needs to be said. Just imagine someone asking you to describe the action you've done thousands of times to end up with question "Ok, but why do you do that?"... That's the moment people can't really explain here and now, they just know that if you don't do it this way, it won't work, but can't explain why.

[@johnvega2528]

Seriously this feels like the only one I’ve seen so far that hits all the points.

[@johnvega2528]

@slimiscool name 1 video

[@ApolloTheDerg]

The feel and look of BF4 is also just so much better, look at Shanghai and Dawnbreaker compared to Kaleidoscope, there are papers and trash everywhere, damaged buildings, fires, destroyers in the background firing cruise missiles, barricades around buildings, shipping containers, logistics equipment, sandbags, the ambient sounds. The new game feels so sterile, devoid of cover and life at the same time. The loading screen music for BF3 and BF4 was phenomenal as well, sometimes it even has radio chatter in the background. Playing as soldiers, in uniforms, not specialists felt like you are in combined operations warfare, you have marines, jets, helicopters, tanks, light armor, marine banter, and none of the cringe voice lines or specialist nonsense. You are a marine, you are there to take an objective and support your team and squad. It all adds up to a beautiful package, in a world space that feels lived in, ravaged by war, and a bit more authentic compared to 2042.

[@a-klashinkov-4755]

that is exactly what im talking about

[@ericb4127]

2042 is shallow fast produced garbage.

[@itsumayo]

What I liked about Battlefield 1, was it nearly forced you to play the role correctly, otherwise your team would fail. Vehicles would easily go down if nobody was fixing them, and teammates would always need to be revived. Classes in that game actually worked, even though they were changed up a bit. Now 2042 just throws that out the window.

[@ryanfortner4000]

Battlefield one also doesn’t get enough credit for its graphics. The game came out almost 7 years ago and it still looks amazing. Bf 2042 looks over saturated as hell imo.

[@Elvy3358]

iNoToRiOuS,something I've noticed is that they failed to pick good features from previous games,take a look at BF5 for example,they could have used good mechanics such as taking ammo/health from your team mates without depending on them to remember how to drop their ammo/health kits,you could get ammo/health from flags,you could use squad points that you gained playing the objective.Everyone probably noticed how noob friendly every battlefield release is geting but let me remember everyone here of a little detail,remember how .44 magnum did 1 headshot only up to 150m on bf3?Now it barely kills a player at 20m away if he's at full health and terrible slow fire rate and muzzle velocity.

[@mts9266]

I swear dice takes a step forward then 10 steps back sometimes

[@gustavorivero3848]

Revolvers, i dont remember when exactly, got modify in the way they shoot in Bf4: before there was a second between you shoot an actually shoot. I got transformer in a slow semi with nerfed damage

[@konradzukowski213]

I'm surprised how much of a difference is in Notorious' video in comparison to Badger's. Badger was more forgiving to BF2042, saying that change to BF formula with addition of specialists is not an issue, because it's still fun... The issue i had with his video was the fact that he didn't intend to play BF like BF, but to have a dumb fun with friends. As many times many others said before "Even a bag of turd can fun with friends". The personal biggest issue with BF2042 is that EA and Dice tried to keep old player who are accustomed to BF formula and attract new players with simplified systems, but end up only alienating both.

[@asgth6147]

Wasn't Badger's video also sponsored by 2042? That would likely play into him being more forgiving.

[@konradzukowski213]

@@asgth6147 No, actually his video was sponsored by World of Tanks, not EA in any capacity. The main thing that I've noticed is that Badger doesn't play bad games alone, but in a group, doing a buttload of stupid stuff. Not to attack Badger as he's a great creator, but his usual approach to such games is far away from what an player of specific genre/franchise expects.

[@thecraftedalliance]

This was a issue destiny 2 had at launch. They simplified a lot for the casual players vs hardcore players and all the hardcore players got burnt out quick. The new/causual players did as well because most of them wouldn't do much more than the story and get max level. It took a good 7 months for them to start fixing it and they fixed it by the second year of the game for the most part. But it just shows how you can't please both sides equally. The hardcore players should always be priority because they are the reason the games stay alive, and the changes they like usually trickle down to the new/casual players and make them stick around more and have a healthier game.

[@HangmanOfficialUploads]

@@asgth6147 No, but he got to sit on the press releases and shit with his buddies because he kissed their asses. JFJ did a video about this shit and he basically explained that if you'd critique Dice and EA for anything, you got sent out of the good boy club and questions that weren't outright praise on the press panel were supposedly outright ignored.

[@Channel-23s]

Yeah it was stupid as now you can see he was very very wrong as how he’s only made one video with it same with bf5 while BF1 had a shitton of vids

[@JCglitchmaster]

2042 has managed to do something magical. It's managed to piss off both vehicle players and infantry players and make a game that satisfies literally noone while somehow making everything feel worse than it did in 2012. Truly a revolutionary move from DICE. Also that transition at 1:46 into 2142's amazing theme was fantastic.

[@artkukaj3027]

BF3 were the golden days...

[@workhorse7134]

@@artkukaj3027 really? You only have to go back to V to experience a real battlefield game.

[@happyjohn354]

@@workhorse7134 Nah son... BF5 was hot garbage even Hardline was better than it.

[@KingfishWatch]

@@happyjohn354 BFV Gunplay and movement is one of the best out here which is you know kinda important for a multiplayer shooter

[@happyjohn354]

@@KingfishWatch Not THE most important though gunplay means shit if the rest of the game is a frustrating mess.

[@oldoldmeme]

An event even more rare than a Fitz upload fellas, a fucking iNut video, and (essentially) a video essay at that.

[@renfex08]

@@idjnqiodiqa4392 lmfao

[@HangmanOfficialUploads]

@@renfex08 Don't drop your ass around here

[@unlockingsnow8571]

Honestly the funny part is hardline took what was good about 4 and tried to improve on it. Take the class system, they added the ability to grab meds and ammo from the backpack of support or assault when as we all know, occasionally they don't drop them...no matter how much you spam the request. Another thing was cops and criminals had two very distinct silhouettes. However, unfortunately that game was met with criticism and accused of having "unoriginal" gameplay. Personally I think hardline was one of the best in the series, had a great campaign, was optimised pretty well, took the good things about 3 and 4 and improved them. And even tweaked the vehicle combat so it wasn't as easy to get splash damaged by rocket spam from the level 140 ah1z pilot on the other team.

[@rafxsainz]

The issue with hardline for me was how arcadey the game turned out to be

[@dennisellerkamp9489]

I loved hardline man

[@randomzocker8956]

Hardline definetly was a good game and i liked it, what people question if it should have been called battlefield since it is different from the rest of the series. If u come from bf 4 to hardline ure shoked on what they did with battlefield. If u played it without expectations it was good.

[@Yuri-xx2gi]

@@rafxsainz ? Bf is arcade

[@rafxsainz]

@@Yuri-xx2gi bf hardline yes moreso than usual

[@TIOLIOfficial]

This was so incredibly well done and put together, detailed, educational and just spot on. Nothing more left to cover, nothing more or less to say. Bravo.

[@DiabolicalMeek]

BF4 was the first PvP game I played. Still to this day, it's my most played Battlefield game and my favorite. It's amazing how a game from 2013 did literally everything better than a game released in 2021. Hell, BF2042 did everything worse than the previous games. It doesn't have the atmosphere, scale, and spectacle that BF1 did, not the movement and destruction BF5 provided, gunplay, and pure fun factor from BF3 and BF4. Just an empty shell that has the franchise name slapped to it...

[@alqaeda7040]

True, in bf4 other players just help each other like repairing and healing without being asked, best game ever

[@atif1538]

@@alqaeda7040 thats cap, ive had plenty of matches where that doesnt happen.

[@kushtalin9180]

@@alqaeda7040 probably 3 out of 64 players on locker that play assault actually revive their teammates. The only class that actually helps consistently is the support players. You are always gonna find ammo boxes on choke points

[@spikef1114]

Facts

[@theastuteangler]

@@atif1538 you need to play a hardcore server then

[@vintyprod]

38:35 “magic Wi-Fi rockets” killed me lmao

[@ballas8656]

I hate those man

[@Econ1991]

Think the root problem for these changes is that a lot of the devs that worked on BF3 and BF4 have left to do other things and the new devs didn't take notes on what worked so focused on what looks good than functionality. It's been happening a lot in gaming for some years that when the old guard leave, the new replacements change things as 'new equals good' rather than just making new maps or weapons, vehicles etc and keeping or improving functionality. There's a reason games like COD and Forza sell many copies without being too different.

[@kabob0077]

2:46 Back in the Battlefield 2 days you had Special Forces, Sniper, Assault, Support, Engineer, Medic and Anti-Tank, but Bad Company 2 refined the Classes into what we know by removing the unnecessary amount.

[@freshy1097]

Wasn't it Bad Company 2 and not Battlefield 3?

[@kabob0077]

@@freshy1097 I guess I need to edit my comment...

[@GeorgiBalabanov]

Actually this started with BF 2142 where you had subclasses...

[@MrFlac00]

Battlefield 2142 was where the 4 class structure was introduced. In fact it’s the one that seems to be the most “traditional”: assault, support, engi, recon.

[@thefilthycasual516]

@@MrFlac00 If we want to be really pedantic, the 4 class structure was invented in Vietnam, though you couldn't freely pick equipment within each class, you just got to choose between two different variants of that class.

[@thefilthycasual516]

Was 4 the last Battlefield you played? I'd be interested to know what you make of 1 and especially V, since V was sort of a.....warning, if you will, for 2042, and made people seriously skeptical of DICE's ability to design games (didn't stop the usual suspects on KZbin shilling both it and 2042 before launch for that EA cash).

[@mts9266]

Therussianbadger for example

[@dadeee7776]

Stopped at 1 V never even looked good and 1 already had a terribly cut campaign, looked like they were already making huge cuts, ain’t no way I was getting V or 42

[@Kodaiva]

@@dadeee7776 1’s campaign was fine, especially for the battlefield series

[@lemmonboy6459]

BF5 COULDVE breathed new life in Battlefield. BF1 showed how even the SLIGHTEST amount of forced historical accuracy and immersion (even if it’s fake) allows the player to FEEL the chaos and thrill. BF5 doesn’t even FEEL like WW2, the clothes don’t match, the maps are bland, and it just feels wrong.

[@troypowers750]

BF4 was already a warning sign of what's to come when it launched. Hardline was bad, 1 was okay, V was bad.

[@ShadowXaenen]

When the world needed him most… he resurrected from the dead.

[@Ai-ll2wn]

This video is phenomenal, it covered the highlights of BF3 & 4 while also putting on spotlight why fixing something that wasn't broken is a trend that companies tend to do more often. Great video!

[@euphoriam4020]

Really good to see you back man, I remember watching your old CSGO videos on the bus ride home from school with my buddies, just made me forget about all the bullshit going on in the world. Not really a car guy, but do what makes you happy man, I can't really blame you for being disgruntled with gaming content, although I do hope you make some videos in the style of your old content. Happy to see you back brother, keep up the good work.

[@slypher3692]

When I see BF3 directly compared to BF2042 like this, BF2042 gives me physical pain and stomach ulcers. There is just something it almost seems like a deliberate deconstruction of the franchise, sad. The specialist are horrible, the whole game feels like a grift and moreso because nobody plays it and you mostly play against AI or can't even load into a half filled lobby on console. Thanks for the great video. Just those BF3 & 4 Clips and your analysis gave me more then the entire game 2042.

[@outlander234]

So you are a liar then? I have played dozens of times past month and game fills immediately like 95%. There only one game that never got filled. I play on PS5.

[@slypher3692]

@@outlander234 last time I played was february, they made some changes but all together the game is beyond saving. OG Battlefield player here. It was my personal experience for the time I played, why should I lie about it? There is nothing to gain for me.

[@ShadowLancer128]

Major respect to Notorious for calculating the percentage difference between 2080 ti and 3080 ti performance in-game. "Oh look at that, 30%" Shit was heartbreaking.

[@crusscorner7252]

imagine if this guy supervising the next battlefield then there is chance that we might get the perfect battlefield

[@BrickWithCatEars]

This is awesome. People kept telling me 2042 was bad but never explained why people don't like it well enough

[@Scrumpy1]

Not only did you explain every issue with great care, you also presented some things that were wrong with the game but we ourselves didn't know why it felt so off. Amazing video.

[@BrokenCircle1]

Oh man I remember a game I played in BF4 with a few friends. I was running the support using the AWS (Hate me for that if you want) and we were playing carrier assault pinned down on the outside of the carrier right by the door, I kept throwing down ammo packs while my two assault friends were shooting grenade launchers in and the guy running engineer was using a fricken EOD bot to sneak up on enemies through the smoke and burn their asses. It was great.

[@eKSe1337]

This is why its so sad to see this franchise going to ruins like this. No other game could imitate the feeling when your pinned down on a house or a choke point and your teammates dying all around you while explosions and gunfire is rattling everywhere and just before you die your teams heli player rains down and saves you and your squad.

[@nguyenhaiong7209]

THE KING IS BACK. And this video is amazing. Great job man.

[@orcinus6792]

I feel like they easily could’ve kept the classes while also having their specialists

[@konradzukowski213]

Probability the best way to implement those specialists would be to keep them tight to one of 4 classes with specialist being more of subclass variants excelling in specific situations while still maintaining their original role. That would help a lot with distinguishing who does what and how to counter that.

[@Registered_Simp]

I mean, SWBF already had a system like that which could work. The solution to their problem had already been solved. Just make it so that you accrue points towards specialists by doing things like playing the objective or teamwork. Then you can make the specialists have a certain gimmick which makes them notably strong, but not unkillable. It really isn't that hard...

[@konradzukowski213]

@Sasha Lemay The reason why they changed the system isn't that it didn't work but because before it wasn't monetizable or difficult to do so in its original form. People won't pay a ton of money for only 1 character who's played in 1/4 cases. Making game classless, EA increases chances that more people will actually engage into the monetary aspect of the game. Just look at how EA tried to change BFV with introduction of 6 vs 6 mode or making overall TTK shorter, more akin to CoD. Everything to make sure they squeeze out as much money as possible from people who would normally not play this type of game.

[@CalDal_22]

Id rather not have a compromise and just have normal classes back.

[@Registered_Simp]

@@CalDal_22 Well yeah. That's what the playerbase would have wanted. Just saying that if they're dead set on specialists, there is a way to do both.

[@adaptablemr.nerdygamer5788]

Battlefield has always been one of my favorite gaming series and it makes me genuinely sad 2042 turned out the way it did

[@ix4034]

it sure took him a while to edit this one..

[@jedd8498]

My English teacher would be proud of this argumentative essay

[@waynereloaded87]

Wow, I used to watch your How to use CS:GO guns series (although I never played CS:GO) few years ago, never heard of you again except now where YT is recommending me a BATTLEFIELD video from YOU and its 40mins long. Its a fever dream

[@Dieselkraftwerk]

The man The myth The legend And Hes back !

[@Rudy-du2mt]

Hey Inotorious glad to see you back making gaming content! Please do more like this!

[@scoldingtitan3651]

Damn this video was awesome! I’ve seen some video essays on 2042 but this one was super in depth and brought up a lot of points on why I love bf4 that I didn’t even realize so you ended up educating me on both bf4 and 2042 so thanks haha! Also brought back some good bf4 nostalgia so thanks for that too.

[@PantherCat64]

I think a good example of having "heroes" in a Battlefield style game was the original Star Wars Battlefronts. Though I only can confirm for it being in 2 but not 1. First you had to earn them, both as a team and if you wanted to play them also as a individual. Though if I remember correctly if your team was getting beat up badly it had the chance of letting your team get a hero to make the game interesting. Second if you saw Darth Vader or Yoda or whoever, you knew you're screwed because they were POWERFUL! But that power came at a cost, you couldn't hide in a corner because you needed kills in order to keep playing them and if you got too far away from your team doing your own thing you'll get overrun faster than Palpatine executing order 66. Heroes needed their team's support to stay alive, and in exchange they can make serious pushes. They changed the flow of the game in a good way, were fun to play as (even die to), and also forced the players to be even more coordinated with their team rather than less.

[@dubmeisterxd2133]

Holy shit welcome back man, this video rocks! hope to see more from you

[@phenomanII]

The issue with 2042 pointed out in this video makes me realise why I fell in love with Build&Shoot (the oldschool Ace of Spades). I find it hard to grasp roles of all the different classes, but Build&Shoot makes it so simple that it is extremely obvious. The simplistic graphics also help my colourblind self identify enemies immediately. I knew there was something special about spawning with a rifle and a grenade, tossing a grenade to dig a 3x3 hole, adding a front to it and making a bunker within seconds (while your team digs through a mountain to get behind the enemy lines).

[@TheHumanHighlighter]

Sectors edge. Thank me later.

[@andyjd_02]

This format is great. Clear info on alternative games that just have it better. Well made and clear

[@revan22]

Quality SFM as always , but very good video, quality content explaining what is wrong with the game. Even though I don't play it it's good to see someone that doesn't just say "it's bad" without real explanation

[@moopaloopa]

I'm always happy to see creators that took a break come back swinging. And you, my friend, have hit a home run with this video.

[@K_LeShaeya]

9 months later, most of things mentioned in this video are still issues. DICE tried to shuffle the Specialists into Classes but it was more of a "Hey look we did what you asked" bandaid, rather than actually doing something. It's still difficult totell who does what, or if they're even going to do that (LOOKING AT YOU SUPPORTS AND YOUR INABILITYT O PROVIDE AMMO AND REVIVES!!!)

[@vasilzahariev5741]

You can actually carry an entire team of 32 players to victory in BF4 under certain conditions, for example, if you're a tanker on a match of Rush and you're a defender, you're playing as an engineer with the mechanic upgrade, so you can repair faster. Of course, it's better to have a buddy be your gunner, who can jump out and fire rockets at the enemy tank and repair you, but if you're very good on your own, you will most likely be on top of the scoreboard with 0 deaths or 1 death. Also, if we're gonna be completely honest here, the classes in BF3 and BF4 were not that well balanced, because Assault had the highest pick rate overall, because he had the best guns and the ability to heal and revive.

[@johnlasley975]

In my experience of BF4 most picked class is engineer. IDK why, probably because of a lot of fights now happends in close quarter conditions and SMG's are best in CQB in BF4.But a squad filled with engies is more usual, than class full of assaults.

[@gitupmechavvy2569]

@@johnlasley975 depends on maps, on locker you’ll see everybody as support and assault for ammo and health it’s piss easy to rack up points. Any other map I’ll run engineer and use the G363 ACW or the MPX and an rpg for vehicles

[@vasilzahariev5741]

@@johnlasley975 The AEK-971, the FAMAS and the Bulldog are superior to any PDW in CQB. Edit: When DICE was in the process of creating Battlefield: Hardline, in the time between the Alphas, Betas and whatever, they changed the Assault class in Hardline. At first, he was a copy-paste from BF3 and BF4 and then they nerfed him a little bit, so that he won't have the same 80% pick rate as in BF3 and BF4. That's what they said at the time. Back in the day, when these two games were played by a lot more people, there used to be many times more servers running Locker/Metro 24/7 than there were servers running anything else and people used to run M16A3 in BF3 and ACE-23/M416/AEK in BF4 all day every day. But otherwise, you're right, in BF4 on all other maps on Conquest mode, people tend to play Engineer a lot more than anything else, because of how vehicle-heavy the maps in BF4 are.

[@johnlasley975]

@@vasilzahariev5741 i think that F-2000 is the best for CQB, but overall you're right. Also, there are a lot of LMG or SAW players in CQ maps. But i do not like Locker or Metro, so for me, most of gameplay time happends on Conquest large, that is why i said that.

[@SkyNinja759]

Assault had a huge pick rate but it has zero viable AT options. So the meta for infantry maps is assault spam but for normal play you'd see a mix of engineer/assault with recons and supports being niche picks for their rolls (support being a bit underpowered generally, and recon being the backrage class). I wouldn't call assault over powered, just the generalist pick that's strong but with flaws. The generalist carbines can compete in the same vallpark as assault rifles, outside of the specfic OP picks. Less of a class wide problem and more of a weapon by weapon balance issue.

[@xdddbx]

Please do more stuff like this, you absolutely nailed it and kept me entertained all the way through! Good job Matt and have a nice day!

[@sidders1943]

I would love more long form content like this. Only about stuff that you genuinely want to review though since part of what made this good was your interest. Do what you want though at the end of the day it's your life.

[@Janni069]

When u mentioned Combat Arms, it rly brought up some good old memories again. I loved playing this game back then. My first online fps shooter that i was regularly playing

[@zenroles]

I tried playing BF4 for the first time in Game Pass. Sadly, there's not enough servers with good ping to play in. I wish I was there earlier when the game released. I had a great time playing one conquest game though.

[@happyjohn354]

Depends what country you are in I was playing a US server just today that was full with 30ms ping. Did you by chance use the detailed search function because that's how you REALLY find the good servers. If you are interested it was called BZ1 from a group called Banzore Gaming.

[@zenroles]

@@happyjohn354 I don't live in the US so yeah that's probably why I can't find any good servers. Thanks for the suggestion though! Will look for it when I get the chance! Cheers!

[@happyjohn354]

@@zenroles I know they have German Russian and English servers so you might have some luck

[@currentfever490]

not to mention the anti vehicle weapons are ineffective at best and requires your entire arsenal to bring them to 10 health and then you cant destroy them from there

[@angel-ob5gz]

one point that is missing from the video is the weapon loadout on the fly. having instantly whatever you need removes all choices from the spawn screen

[@fatihmtlm]

the FPS similarity between 2080 and 3080 might be caused by the CPU bottleneck. Some rely on the CPU. On the other hand, I agree GPU usage with RTX is a bit odd.

[@fullyverified7491]

That's exactly it

[@johnpen269]

Indeed that was such a stupid thing to put in a video and made him look like a total noob lmao

[@s1mple_minded]

@@johnpen269he was probably misinformed

[@Yukitta69]

Cpu bottleneck or not i too have a very low GPU usage with my 3080ti but my cpu usage is 20% at max load so no bottleneck, and still GPU is not even 50% usage on max settings so speaking of bottleneck is very stupid. game is poorly optimized and thats period.i too tried two different GPUs a 1080ti and 3080ti all i had is maybe 10% boost on fps lmao.

[@CrayCow]

I like how DICE had to be taught why their games were good, it's almost like they forgot what made their battlefield games great.

[@zacharytrevino6321]

This is mostly because a lot of the original battlefield developers ended up leaving

[@leandrometfan]

7:06 as soon as this song starts I cant help but tear up. So many good memories and a triumphant song, too much for me to handle

[@pbkrogen65]

I didn't think that removing the classes was gonna be bad and just give us more freedom... until I played the beta.

[@sanheta]

This reminds me why I love the battlefield franchise so much since BF2 and how depressing it is to see it's current state, I surely hope for the better for the franchise. Personaly I was never able to play BF3 and BF4 when they came out because the state of the economy in my country, only recently I have been able to save up to buy a decent PC and what makes me sad is that my closest friends were never given the chance to play with me any of these titles. This video also gives me hope that the older battlefield games will still be played in the future by people who love the franchise and that my closest friends and I will have the chance to play them together once the price of hardware comes down a little, especially with the older games being easier to run on newer entry level hardware. As for feedback I have to say I missed the gaming content and the quality of this video is insane, I don't think I've seen a better video on the topic than this one. Great job Matt! I'd love to see more gaming videos in the future since nowadays I don't have much time to watch twitch streams.

[@msaeedazizi]

This video started popping up in my recommendations a few days ago, and seeing as I had already consumed enough negative content about 2042 while having numerous problems with the game myself, I simply neglected watching this one. Needless to say, I was wrong. This video is nothing short of incredible work of constructive criticism and calculated examples of the problems we face in 2042. I'm so glad that I watched such a masterfully crafted video!❤️

[@succulinnsuccerter5375]

The amount of dedication and effort put into this video is amazing. Deadass I feel any game developer or investor should watch this video for just the advice even though you are not an exper. This is some of the best opinions/advice I've seen from any youtuber I know of about BF or games in general. I'll be sharing this with my buds.

[@terran6686]

This may not get you as many views and spicy youtube points as your other videos, but please know everyone who has watched this one has immense appreciation for the work you've put together.

[@cappeb]

The return of the king

[@theus663]

These reviews are great, you should make more of them. Another game i'd reccomend Ion Fury or Dusk, both use the 3d engine which reminds me of the good old days.

[@tobiasgerhardt7604]

What do you mean by 3D Engine. Dusk is built on unity and Ion Fury runs on build

[@BlindxSide]

been back on BF4 lately again and honestly, it has probably the best class systems and gameplay of any Battlefield game. The amount of customization you have for your weapons and role in the team is incredible. I used to hate BF4 Rush back in 2013/2014, but lately I've been absolutely loving it since I now actually understand the class balancing and dynamics.

[@bcwahler850]

they should just come out with a new version of BF4, updated graphics etc.

[@Markov092]

Funny, how many are criticizing BF2042, while praising BF3 and BF4. Back in when BF3 was released, many BF2 and BF2142 fans criticized BF3.

[@dlj1726]

The best way to tell how easy the aircraft is by knowing that I was never a pilot in the little birds because i was a horrible pilot, but my FIRST GAME in 2042 I went 40 sum and 2 in only the nightwing

[@chrisu.6649]

14:30 Facts. This is what makes the Classes superior. In BF1, if I, as an assault player, spot a Medic 30-40 meters out, I know they will have a much higher chance of killing me faster than I can kill them, and so I'd avoid long ranged engagements with Medics at all costs.

[@CobnibletPS3Rep]

You did say you were working on it. And by my fathers heavenly glory it is good love you king

[@52NDPRESIDENT]

If they add specialists based around classes I feel like it would make It better I feel like specialists aren't bad but the normal class system should exist in a separate game mode or just give players the option to add the specialists abilities as gadgets to classes to not remove some of the cool features 2042 has like the wing suit

[@TheWizardGamez]

I feel like specialists should be more cosmetic. While a certain specialist may be the only one able to hold a certain gadget. Maybe even force the two factions to be two different companies. Whether that’s a north south line or an east west line. I just need some kind of general distinction

[@kirillholt2329]

I can do 100% without ANY sort of specialists legends or whatever, we have compromised enough

[@Kore-Khaos]

This is the best analysis of bf2042 I’ve seen since it’s release. All the others are only crying about bugs that can be patched out, this is a real in-depth analysis. Good work, keep it up. 👍

[@thebomb78]

The rock paper scissors-style gameplay is what made Battlefield great.

[@superfamilyallosauridae6505]

Loved Battlefield, all the way from BF2, the first game I ever played (singleplayer 16v16 bots lmao), 2142 (first MP I ever played) with Titan mode (a high never hit since in terms of modes), BFBC 2's campaign, BF3, BF4, and then BFV. BFV was definitely a low, but there were things it did well. Most of its issues were aesthetic (solved in the Pacific map pack, which was incredible) and technical (still not fully solved but much better than before). Deep down, it had great gameplay that I loved as much as I had loved 2142 all those years ago. I still didn't think I'd look back on it and wish it hadn't been cancelled, and think of it fondly against the next game. I genuinely would've rather had more BFV. For all its problems, I kept playing even though my enemies were invisible sometimes for a reason. It was fun, and eventually it even became great in the Pacific. This decline is, in my eyes, not just EA killing it, but has to actively be a choice. There were incomprehensible decisions going back years now. The random TTK changes in BFV come to mind as a bewildering gameplay choice that seems too specific to be an EA idea. Much of the vehicle combat was terrible, too, specifically aircraft. It had a ton of guns and looked great. Once the Pacific released, really cool cosmetics started coming out too.

[@GhoulSlayer_]

2:30 One issue, classes are good but I seem to remember people complaining about medic/assault a lot. In Bf4 and Bf1 e.g., you could be a medic without the ability to heal/revive respectively if you don’t choose it. Likewise some people would play it just for the assault rifles and self-heals. BfV kinda fixed some issues by making reviving people and repairing teammates a passive ability for medics/supports, but BF2042 went back to square one

[@happyjohn354]

I would have just given them a better grenade grenade launcher where you can switch "fire modes" to handle different targets ones better for armor, ones better for infantry, one does more damage to structures kind of deal that way you have a jack of all trades gadget that you constantly have on you. Also maybe a passive speed buff over the other classes.

[@DhonJoe]

Damn I miss BF3, BC2, BC1 etc. I'm just sad that DICE, EA and Battlefield has gone to shit.

[@kutkuknight]

That intro brings me back... Im 15 again, is 2012 and Ime njoying battlefield 3 with my friends

[@ajfix1295]

How do I indirectly send this video to the entire DICE Marketing Team?

[@owenthomas8614]

Hear me out… bf1 was the last great battlefield. Especially with the limitations of the incredibly unique setting.

[@camerondavis6659]

I like bfV

[@arathemacaw]

I also really hate the minimap focused gameplay with the spotting. In BF1 and BF4 i was able to focus less on the minimap because I didnt constantly need it's input to know where the enemies are, also due to the fact they were faction classes with different designs. 2042 requires my eyes to be glued to the minimap if I want to survive longer than 1 minute.

[@TimeTripper79]

I agree with you, i prefer the old spotting system. Sadly reddit cried about it too much

[@workhorse7134]

The game is much better without the handholding doritos on top of everyone's head pre BFV. Players actually have to see you with their own eyes instead of spamming the spot button.

[@harryshuman9637]

iNoToRiOus: "Assault is a class that could heal and revive teammates" Medic class from older games: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@peterpumpkineater6979]

0:34 perfectly sync with the beat

[@styluh676]

just subbed. ive seen you playing with us in the chaotic 24/7 aus lockers server :D

[@Killc4m]

After watching the whole video I’m surprised you didn’t mention Battlefield 1 at all, especially during your critique of Breakthrough which the community widely agrees was masterfully done in that game.

[@pesnaola]

that was literally the best video talkin about 2042 feeling, it dont feels like you have an objective, a role on the battle, it is basically a one for all with teams, the team play just cant fit when no one know what is his role on the team, congratulations for the great video

[@wretchedgames5194]

Selecting where to spawn on consoles is even worse because the selection thing is very random where it will move and sometimes even just disappear and you have to go to a different menu and back just to make it come back

[@wanderingwobb6300]

I honestly liked the balancing of classes in BF1/V much more than BF3/4. In BF4 it felt like you needed to run engineer 99% of the time because otherwise you'll just be completely helpless against vehicles except in very tiny sections of the map but the new classes of assault, medic, support, scout allowed for the more variety more easily. Snipers actually being much more fun to use with significantly higher bullet velocities certainly didn't hurt either. I also really like how BFV implemented stuff like the repair tool and medic syringe directly into the class as a trait allowing for more interesting gadget selections. No one was using rifle grenades in BF4 or BF1 because you simply don't have the room for it and no one was repairing in BF1 because people didn't want to bring a repair tool.

[@jblazerndrowzy]

That’s definitely one thing I really like about V. People didn’t want to throw on the repair tool or syringe? Then just force them into the class kits without creating a single problem. You see a damaged tank nearby as a Support in V? Just run up to it and press the toolbox button, and boom, your hammer turns into a repair tool to help out friendly tanks That alone has saved me many times as a tank. If I was horribly damaged, I could just roll up to a Support, and the dude would very quickly take out their blowtorch and fix my tank up.

[@ehzoue]

that losing this is crazy cuz now that i think about it i dont remember ever being mad that i lost in bf

[@FireWalkMusic]

You nailed it! I totally agree. Bf2042 just doesnt feel like a battlefield game. I wish they would look at bf3, bf4 and bf1 to see what worked so well in the past. There's the recepie for success.

[@valkkyrr]

Man i honestly dont remember when i watched one of your videos, glad youre back

[@BirdiesGoCherp]

one trick I did in BF4 vehicles was I'd shoot 1 shot from the belt/magazine and reload. Then I'd have more ammo to use when I needed it.

[@nc-133]

Prolly the best video essay on not just 2042, but Battlefield as a whole that I've seen. Great stuff

[@donvansnarr198]

I've been playing ALOT of Bf4 lately on PC and man it hits just right. Alot of people still playing on packed servers too.

[@TheQuadLaunchers]

Someone FINALLY showed the gun disparity. The other thing is the bullet SPREAD is insane in 2042. The Scar-H in 2042 Portal literally spreads INTO THE GROUND.

[@DeathTempler]

I have a wealth of codes for BF4 on standby for friends who want to play. I would never do that for 2042. Hell, I'm still chipping away at my 10 hour trial, which has mostly been waiting for menus to load.

[@WarKiKi]

Matt deadass moves like a SFM character

[@KAPAFlyer]

The funny thing is, you're absolutely correct....however, I've literally not touched any other "Specialist" outside of Falck. I've mained Medic for years, because I like helping the team. With Falck, I equip the Defibs, Med Bag and Syrette Pistol. It's just like playing BF3 again, to some degree. But, try as I might. The Specialists have just turned Battlefield into a sweaty CoD infested mess of Sundances with K30s.

[@Kyrnyx]

Not what I was expecting from what I remember being a CS:GO meme channel. Brilliantly executed.