How Primitive Building Videos Are Staged

[@primitivetechnology9550]

Well said, Thanks SunnyV2.

[@Ro1lol.]

wow, it's the man himself

[@the1barbarian781]

Great channel

[@othnielbarcoma1809]

Had to scroll far to see your comment.

[@Vitamortis.]

im gonna watch a bunch of ur vids cuz it looked interesting in this video

[@gesslegonzales3692]

Dawg we love your stuff

[@fumbducks]

I thought it was pretty obvious they weren't actually doing this by hand. Anybody that's ever tried to dig a hole deeper than a few feet would know what a nightmare this would be without machines

[@demens8977]

You're right, but many people on the internet have never even held a shovel in their life hah

[@Llama_charmer]

Yup, i didnt wanna be pessimistic so i didnt assume they were faked (though i had my suspicions). The ground in them always looked like clay so i thought maybe its just easier to dig through. But i need a shovel and after about 6 inches of mud its just rocks and roots and mud, really difficult to dig through. Couldnt imagine digging out a 10x8x3 metre hole.

[@forgivezharion6989]

Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this you 🤓🤓👶🏽👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻

[@eurekadiaz3771]

I usually dug some holes around a feet deep on the beach to punk my friends (i buried the hole afterwards). It's a pain, it took around 30 minutes of digging with some partners in crime.

[@Buddy-jh2yf]

Yup, this.

[@RashidSEC]

I’ve had suspicions about them for a while. They’re out here playing Minecraft irl in some jungle getting tens of millions of subs.

[@Gormula137]

They keep digging straight down too smh 🙄

[@wisteriafleur3522]

@@Gormula137 Right! They broke one of the most important rule!

[@8-ball459]

It's obvious they had cheats on They didn't even have a crafting table!

[@raxzorii9382]

They tryna dig to bedrock

[@HowToChangeName]

@@8-ball459 or they begged dime tools from someone offline

[@gustavchambert7072]

One thing about Primitive Technology is the scale of the projects. Everything he does is actually scaled for one person, both in terms of physical size and technical complexity. There is simply nothing in there that is too big, too complex or too labour intensive to be unfeasible for one person. This is then further re-enforced by how he so thoroughly displayes every step and gives an overview of how long each project actually takes.

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

Ok. But I assumed that the fancy ones were intended to show what wealthy ancient societies would build and how. And of course they use machines. They have to. And it is still well produced

[@failegion7828]

​@@Toro_Da_CorsaThe issue is a majority of them never disclose this information. Leading to a false impression. It's like an artist tracing for a few minutes, than grabbing an AI to do the piece, than finalizing the rest by hand. Sure some may still find issue with how the process goes, but at the very least it's methods used are transparent and don't attempt to be something they aren't.

[@yveslaflute9228]

I like him and am glad now that all the fakes never grabbed my attention.

[@cdburner2548]

​@@Toro_Da_CorsaAre you saying ancient people used cranes and electrical equipment (Dendera light bulbs) to build things like the pyramids? Please tell me this isn't what you're saying.

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

@@cdburner2548 Nope. I am saying the producers of the shows use modern equipment to speed up the process. But the videos are still wholesome because it shows how ancient ppl did do it

[@Sobrevivencialismo]

Hey SunnyV2, i can only say... THANK YOU. We are survival-ish content creators here in Brazil and we often have to deal with questions and critics from people saying things like "you guys are weak, i've seen many videos from other channels that are faster and do incredible things in the jungle". This kind of videos create a fake ideia that survival can be easy and you can "prosper" in the jungle, wich cant be more far from the truth. Anyway, thanks for the content and explanation! Greetings!

[@johnappleseed9546]

❤️

[@okc1254]

​@@treeofrage7622 man would be eaten by a snake or tore in half by a jaguar the second day lol

[@Pingedits]

@@treeofrage7622 maybe if he brings enough supplies and machinery

[@lusofaglusitanian2076]

I remember watching your videos on combat boots and cammo testing back in like 2014, hadn't realized you guys blew up this much since then. Parabéns!

[@yshen_]

50 episódios com gravações de todo o processo de construção de uma cabana, ainda com dicas e tutoriais culinários ali no meio, não é pra qualquer um e que de weak n tem nada

[@Selfsufficientme]

Yeah, I never watched more than a few seconds of those Primitive Technology copycat channels before I realised the fakery - I watch all of John's though... Even digging a 6-foot fox hole with a small shovel is hard enough (just ask any soldier). Faking it just for money is one thing but the environmental damage as you point out is the thing that annoys me most. Hopefully, this video will help to spread the word and the popularity will fade out until it's not commercially viable anymore. Cheers :)

[@forgivezharion5704]

Ratio + yb better + I didn’t ask + this u 🤓🤓👶🏽👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻

[@jamesadams6001]

sad thing is it likely wont because the viewing stats for these channels show its mostly kids (makes sense, thats what i did when i was little) and kids dont care whats legitimate, they just want fast, consistent entertainment with high pitched funny sounding voices that looks like something they could do.

[@Lp-army1]

@@forgivezharion5704 to who yourself the fakers?

[@chemacubero]

Dude I love your channel!

[@darkishroom]

@@forgivezharion5704 what

[@TAOutdoors]

Having dug a fairly decent amount of holes by hand on my channel, I knew something was up with those guys! This is such a great video exposing those channels. Thanks for taking the time to make it. But more so for giving John (OG Primitive Technology) the exposure he deserves. He was so ahead of the trends way back when he started. His authenticity and uniqueness had me glued to his channel. When these other channels popped up not long after, I could tell something wasn’t right. They could have at least not dressed EXACTLY like OG Primitive Tech. With the shorts etc, I also noticed last year that all these channels had their KZbin accounts set to “United States”, which was strange. Either way, I hope that people who watch this video go straight over to OG Primitive Technology and give him a sub and watch all his videos. He was (and still is) the best no-talk Primitive Channel out there.

[@Widazer]

Youre absolutley right

[@kanamekiyru]

If its one thing I've learned from digging holes is all those guys should be ripped. Digging by hand isnt easy

[@whyjnot420]

@@kanamekiyru I spent time working for a fence building/installation company and later an excavation company, with kit ranging from tiny skid steers that you stand on all the way to full sized excavators and bucket loaders with articulated steering and tires around as tall as I am. One thing that never changed was the need for someone with a shovel (or someone to crouch on top of the auger with those crap tiny skid steers when the ground is hard). That kind of work sucks. Do it long enough and you will not be ripped, you will be broken.

[@filipsgrand]

@@kanamekiyru Even digging with metal tools is not easy.

[@thecanadianpigeon9915]

Honestly sub to both of these channels hrs admitting that they are not the best and that John the original guys the best which most people can't do I support that and I'm subbing because of it

[@jodywhitehead9173]

The latest Primitive Technology video takes a dig at this sort of thing. While clearing an area he posts, 'no excavators were harmed'.

[@luna18915]

"During this video"

[@Dadusak]

I remember watching Primitive Technology years ago, he's a legend

[@Hi-cm1cj]

Hello, checkmark! 👋

[@ghoul4748]

he's a true blue australian hero that lives in the forest to avoid paying taxes

[@nkumar1]

@@ghoul4748 ah yes, tax evasion, humanity's favorite pastime since the dawn of time.

[@HahaHaha-hs7ln]

@e nobody cares bro

[@Somerled_Pox]

He's still GOATed, now he be making bricks

[@user-zh9oq8vp9e]

As someone with 10 years of construction experience, the funniest part of faking this is that they could just be honest about how they're building it and it'd still be impressive.

[@jonarramos4523]

Yes! I know the big holes are dug by machines, but the fine details would still need to be made by hand. The structures are still impressive even if they admit to using machines to do much of the heavy lifting. They don't need to lie, people would still watch even if they were honest.

[@nmarbletoe8210]

"We built this underground penthouse with just a hamster and a contractor!"

[@richcoe9273]

Exactly. I would still watch 12 people do what they do. Also, I don't compare it to actual primitive building as this has a much more modern architecture.

[@davidswanson5669]

The faking it is the point I think, as though they are embracing that truism that: lies travel halfway around the world before the truth can puts its shoes on. For some reason, lies are measurably more entertaining and more desirable than the truth. The thing that puzzles me is that people don’t actually like to be lied to, but they will willingly suspend their disbelief in order to be entertained. WWE wrestling is a great example of that.

[@omnianima4540]

@@jonarramos4523 It's about the amount of people that would watch it, because in the end it's money. And you could never argue, that a video with nature sound in the background and two guys with sticks, would blend in with an excavator doing all the main work. Only a small percentage of the people that are currently watching it, would watch something like that, and most of them wouldn't even watch the whole thing because why spend half an hour on something that takes 3 days to finish, when in reality you thought it takes several months

[@BarryBruh]

You mean to tell me i cant build a 3 story mansion with indoor plumbing with a rock and a stick in under a week

[@nobodyisme7374]

LOL

[@Komatik_]

One good yardstick is the Townsends' log cabin project. They got a simple hut out of it and it was a huge amount of work even for what back in the day was intended to be a temporary structure.

[@sambas9257]

No, mate. You can't. You must be at least two!And that's what these videos teach us!!

[@davidegaruti2582]

Damn that must be the reason why the housing market is soo easy to profit off of

[@EEEEEEEE]

‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

[@sm753]

Well, the most "compelling" or evident thing for me is that the Primitive Technology guy always does something relatively "basic" whether it's making/firing bricks out of mud and using it to build a shelter, or other things like that. I was always a bit skeptical of the other channels where it's like "hey we're building a swimming pool slash relaxing spa in the jungle!"

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

I've done some of his builds and I can confirm he is definitely legit. The only one I didn't get same results was with the bow, but that's more due to the saplings in my area. I converted it to a double bow and then it worked like seen in the video.

[@paulsd9255]

A lot of his videos tend to be about making materials, be it making iron out of bacterial growths, charcoal firing, or refining his process of making bricks. And a lot of the time he’ll make such a video before making a large project, like building a better kiln and making more bricks before building the brick hut. The completeness of his processes makes things even more convincing (more so now that he does timelapses instead of only time skips)

[@axbix]

the thing I can't get out of my head is that these guys could just feature the fact that they have a large team, make the structures more elaborate and still get a lot of views

[@100gecsrbetterthangod5]

Exactly. And it could be used to teach about modern construction, how it lines up/differs from primitive construction. But naw, just lie and trick to push your way into an established and proven successful genre because that is easier.

[@GeorgeCowsert]

@@100gecsrbetterthangod5 that is why I don't respect copycats, even if they might be making decent content. Why bother being one of many when you can be fully unique, and thus an icon?

[@crezd5028]

Right? These dude obviously have capital and resources if they can do what there doing right now, they could just come clean and do so much coo stuff

[@arthurmaciel7357]

Why though? To maintain the sanctity of primitive construction? I can't understand the point of this video, they aren't harming anyone, they are making entertaining videos.

[@BensonOfD]

​@@arthurmaciel7357 I mean there's not a single person out there that likes liars, it'd be weird if people weren't irritated with the fake channels. Sure, it's not harming anyone, but their entire brand is built on deception. I'd compare it to magicians in a way. Picture somebody performing "miracles" and convince the masses that they have superpowers/have godly powers, when in reality they're using clever tricks instead. That's way different then going to see a magician with full knowledge that they're using some type of trick to achieve whatever fantastic feat they perform. The issue isn't that they're using a huge team and a metric ton of machinery to create these videos, the issue is that they're deliberately lying to the very same people that are making them 1000's of dollars from each video.

[@StuffBudDuz]

I always found it suspicious that a single person was able to complete fifty-two 100-day projects in a year.

[@karveka4371]

'twas sus, indeed.

[@CaptainXanax]

Well, he never said he works on them for all 100 days. Maybe he finishes most of it on day 1 and puts the finishing touches on day 100. I thought everyone could dig a swimming pool with a stick in a day?!?

[@Soxial_credits]

69th like noice

[@AmazingRofa]

@@CaptainXanax kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5CpaZado51qhMU Finally it's here .

[@Tdelliex]

@@CaptainXanax i know right they're clearly just bad smh.

[@RoadRunnerMeep]

Man, I'm glad primitive technology is legit, he was the first channel I ever watched, and I loved it. I hated all the copycat channels that followed. I liked the channels that focus on the primitive methods, it's interesting to see how things like Bricks, and Blacksmithing were done to make the tools we now use today. It makes you appreciate how hard work it was back then for something so simple

[@EpicNerdsWithCameras]

It says a lot about the dedication John puts into his videos when countless copycats tried to cheat to get those views, but they still can't topple the king.

[@HarbingerOfTruth1]

It would have been easier for people back in the day as it would be part of their regular lives. Depending on how far back you go humans were also far stronger making some feats a lot easier.

[@tuesdaylover4202]

@Road Runner Me too. I used watch Primitive Technology long before the copycats start doing it. I live in Cambodia and heard it a pretty big thing. Don't care enough to check it out though.

[@planescaped]

@@HarbingerOfTruth1 When you have very few means of entertaining oneself or even providing comfort to your life, work is pretty much all you have to occupy yourself. And when that's all you have ever known, it doesn't feel as miserable and depressing as it would to us.

[@BlackSeranna]

I always felt like Primitive Technology was real because he showed us everything the whole way through. Each project was small enough it could be done by one man. I remember watching the one where he made charcoal, and then he used the charcoal to create the clay roofing shingles. It all worked well from what I knew how clay was fired back in the old days. Later, when I saw people making swimming pools in the ground, in the hard clay ground, all I could think was that they didn't have any support, the pool would collapse in on itself, or animals/kids would drown. I wasn't wrong about the latter. I had no idea people did it for money, though. I never got the impression that KZbin paid that much.

[@mermaidopulence8539]

That was one of my main concerns about all of the builds that the others do is what would happen to them after they built them. There are so many different channels that do so many builds and I would just always worry about what would happen to the land after they were done with that episode.

[@RazorsharpLT]

Then why do you keep on watching and supporting them?

[@beemerwt4185]

Wow. Primitive Technology is actually quite a standup fellow. He stays out of the drama, despite it being more algorithmic and directly competitive to his brand.

[@possibly_a_retard]

PT wants to build stuff and rediscover the process. That he shares it and others are thrilled to come along for the ride is incidental. All the rest simply want the clicks and the cash that comes with it. So it's no surprise.

[@Edfiki86]

not everyone cares about yt

[@AmazingRofa]

@@possibly_a_retard kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5CpaZado51qhMU Finally it's here,

[@FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC]

People watch his content to relax. If he started talking and yapping about drama, I would instantly unsubscribe

[@NETBotic]

@@FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC Today on Primitive Technology we're going to build a hut AND TALK ABOUT POLITICS!!!

[@Melissamms]

This honestly makes me really sad and embarrassed that I didn't realize this sooner. I always figured they had more help off-screen, but as someone who has never attempted to build anything like this I really had no gauge of how possible it would be without machinery.

[@mrgamerwatch100]

Im actually so glad im not the only one who feels embarrassed… I feel like I was being lied to for so many years

[@stevenyoung9738]

Can't say I researched deep into the rabbit hole but how did you see the dirt mansions and think they were possibly built by a couple people

[@jonny-b4954]

Oh yeah, as someone who's family is in construction and it's all I've ever done, none of this would work practically nor stand up to the elements really. At least the ones without concrete and that are just painted dirt/clay basically. I mean, really anyone who's ever tried digging a hole would know immediately it's bogus. There's a reason most bodies are found in 2-3' holes and not 6' under.

[@Melissamms]

@@stevenyoung9738 are you genuinely asking or are you just being condescending?

[@stevenyoung9738]

@@Melissamms genuinely asking

[@Ohemaa]

Damn you really got the research done quickly. Back to watching cos I didn’t always believe these elaborate builds

[@forgivezharion6989]

Ratio + yb better + nobody cares + this u 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👶🏽👨🏼‍💻

[@dark-ghost5455]

Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYG8gIFtqs5sl5Y haha

[@-Tia-]

@@forgivezharion6989 stop spamming, thanks.

[@mrjuicejunior]

Goddamn these two bots in the replies look like "🤓"s

[@lordmilchreis1885]

4 (!) Fucking bots in 1 thread are you serious edit: oh my god are you shitting me?

[@POSSUM_chowg]

"Private jungle in California" [5:26] As a Californian, that was the funniest part of the video... we obviously have no jungles here. My part of the state (Ventura County), for example, is all mountains, oak forests and shrub-covered hills that turn brown in the summer, fyi

[@DromeG60]

I've gotta be honest... I'm usually pretty good at understanding what's fake on the internet, but this genre has always been so innocent and rural in my eyes, it just totally went over my head. Thanks for being a consistent voice of reason!

[@oplars6487]

Sadly, one has to assume the worst when it comes to South East asia

[@faithful451]

I didn't think anything of the earliest ones but after they started getting more complex I became pretty suspicious

[@idkanymore9228]

I come from south east Asia origin and can find these fake videos disgust to our ability to build things

[@constabrielbell4523]

@@oplars6487 as a south east asian, yeah totally true. There are good people and bad people in every corner in this world.

[@petrrmiseur]

The only thing I noticed were the falsified locations. I knew by the landscape and plants in these places that this was somewhere in southeast Asia and definitely not in the US. I did not suspect these massive projects though.

[@shooshiwhooshi8736]

I feel really stupid now after you laid the mountain of evidence as to why these are fake. I always just turn my brain off and like to see the progress step by step. I never even thought to think that these were faked. Thanks Sunny for enlightening me on this!

[@demiralilian3271]

Can relate, tbh it wasn't truly out fault but now, we're lucky to be enlightened by Sunny!

[@mrabetto857]

I think that's fair since most people are there for the entertainment and progress

[@mgmabone8143]

Nah dude don't feel bad. While in hindsight it's obvious these kinds of videos are fake it's easy to get sucked into the raw entertainment these kinds of videos can bring. It's why they're so successful. A lot of people just stop thinking or caring if it's real or fake with this kind of stuff. Even I have been there.

[@harvetwound1234]

I usualy watch these when i'm tired so I can barely even see the mistakes. I don't care though, youtube hasn't thrown back into that pit for a while.

[@DromeG60]

It's just such an innocent genre, you'd never think that even out there, KZbinrs would still be faking vids for money

[@JonSudano]

I think people's first mistake was believing those builds were legitimate in the first place. As long as the videos generate views, they're happy. They don't seem too concerned with being genuinely primitive/handmade. With that being said, the builds themselves are pretty impressive and do require a lot of talent and craftsmanship to make. John of the original PT of course is a mastermind, and it adds a whole new layer of grandeur for that reason, but people still get entertainment out of watching the "fake" ones too.

[@Sheogoratful]

oh my god i remember your videos years ago!!!

[@greatcesari]

People who fall for these videos genuinely think that real life construction works like minecraft.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

@@greatcesari it doesn't?

[@Zharque]

Easy to say that from a high ground looking down but that takes away the responsibility of people who actually lie to make themselves look genuine. There's 7 billion people in the world, don't judge everyone with your own measures.

[@AlbaDHattington]

@@Sheogoratful ˢᵒᵐᵉ BODY

[@ALLOFTHEBOOST]

Actually very humbling for PT to say hed rather stay out of the drama and leave it up to the viewer. Respect.

[@jackthatmonkey8994]

I guess hes interested in primitive tech for a reason

[@gregoryharris5170]

Yea that is refreshing. It's just entertaining KZbin videos so who cares.

[@gustavgnoettgen]

​@@gregoryharris5170 When you present it as something else it's a lie and the youtuber a liar. How is it humble to "clarify" after being caught?

[@hysteri]

@@gustavgnoettgenI watched these all the time when I was younger and even I knew they used machines 😭 it’s not something bad, they’re selling a genre of videos now basically, a storyline if I may. The only thing we should be concerned about is what happens to them after lol

[@gustavgnoettgen]

@@hysteri I knew it couldn't be real, it's still lying.

[@LIMC]

Great work, it always seemed like too much of a massive money grab for them to all be legitimate - a bit like the fake "animal rescue" trend

[@pomtubes1205]

limc

[@A_D_H_L]

Except the animal rescue videos are worse because animals are being physically abused, the worst part about fake primitive technology videos is that they are slightly bad for the environment. Of course excluding all of the lies and cash grabbing which both of them are at fault for.

[@Darryl560]

limc

[@NewsFlashStudios]

limc

[@Melekteko]

limc

[@SagaciousDjinn]

I was ready to be heartbroken if primitive technology was going to be proved to be staged. My faith in his has and will continue to grow and I'm happy that the only primitive technology channel I've found interest in has maintained integrity.

[@PrograError]

in his channel we trust... also the long duration between uploads... if i have to guess, it's fairly regular on the fakes than on his channel

[@Agnyaanamdhvamsakah]

His projects are the only ones that seemed plausible. It's slow, hard grunt work, unlike those absurd overnight swimming pool condos in the middle of a tropical jungle.

[@shoyupacket5572]

@@PrograError i've noticed that with channels in general, whether it's just the quality or the authenticity i tend to trust youtubers that don't upload so often.

[@robertnett9793]

To be fair the OG Primitive Technology doesn't anything that's unbelievable. He doesn't create underground waterparks or skyscrapers - he just makes little huts, charcoal kilns and other fairly reasonable stuff. Even his more involved projects - like his brick huts with tiled roofing are by and large feasable. He doesn't show off some supernatural skill - and he shows a lot of detail on how he achieves his projects. It feels quite like you can follow this steps and get a similiar result (unlike digging a luxury swimming pool by hand)...

[@cristianmontesdeoca7392]

Have faith in God, God bless you ‼️✝️✝️✝️

[@dande3139]

Primitive Technology has always been, first, an educational survival channel. The rest have always felt like entertainment. No survivalist has ever made building an underground pool with a water slide, and a fresh cut green lawn a priority.

[@streamyyt7384]

@dash shut

[@tarnos12]

I stopped watching those channels when I saw them releasing a video every few weeks saying "We spent a year working on this"

[@yarn2350]

@@tarnos12 how did i not realize this XD

[@axelfirekirby]

If primative technolagy wanted to he chould tottaly make swimming pools

[@skyral4137]

@@axelfirekirby Alone?, No he can't, you would need a plumber to adjust the pipes if you want to pool plumbing, an experienced architect to make sure the structure doesn't crumble, an excavator, and a couple laborers. You totally can't do it alone.

[@robloxseekyt]

3:09 Godzilla had a stroke trying to read that and f*cking died

[@djcoopes7569]

8:30 here in Australia we do actually have a special kind of termite mound that can be used to make mudbrick, i've seen old settler homes made out of it myself. the mounds themselves can sometimes be up to 2m tall, its crazy. but thats very region and soil specific

[@Thomaswalton9801]

i live a bit west of amberly airfield and the mounds out there in the bush are massive

[@69mickswagg]

Can you get a whole pool done with one mound?

[@airborne1250]

@@69mickswagg Doubt it, it most likely would take a dozen or more depending on the scale.

[@Hellsong89]

@@69mickswagg Definitely not. Maybe 1cubic meter one but these things fake channels are making there is no way and as mentioned you are making bricks. Those bit different than concrete, since bricks are burned after molding to harden them and to able hold liquids and solids. For pool like that you would probably need to use bee wax or something similar after burning to seal it, otherwise that amount of water probably starts to leak since burning just 1cubic meter pools surface coated with that stuff would cause cracking, specially when earth eventually sifts. Most practical solution would be to find good source of blueclay mold and burn bunch of bricks, build a hole, make mortar type of mix from the clay, build the structural frame from bricks, then smoothen and seal the surface with the clay, make big ass fire to pool and burn it again, but there is high chance of cracking still happening and dont know how long this thing will lasts.

[@albuseisenhorn3385]

I mean to be honest you can make mud bricks in a lot of places, it truly is an ancient building material

[@cetusipy]

Haven't done the research this guy has. But I remember when primitive technology started, I commented about corners cut on a few of his early videos. Using modern tools to do some things for example, just seemed against the style of video he was attempting. Dude responded to every comment, admitting he felt the same, and said he was working on going fully legit making his own everything. Then he did. Much respect. I purposely avoid all the other knockoffs specifically because they were obviously stealing the idea, the fact they are faking it all on top of that is just icing on the poo cake.

[@Rudy97]

Well, starting with nothing is super boring, it's ok to use modern tools to help get started with the series. I get bored working with modern tools and materials after 30 minutes, imagine u have to rub 2 rocks together for a week to make an axe or something.

[@alehlete830]

those channels never clean up either there was a gu ywh owen to the fakers underwater pool and it was a mess and tools and stuff were everywhere and garbage

[@shayneoneill1506]

@@Rudy97 Yeah thats absolutely true, but thats not why people enjoy these vids.

[@ShermTank7272]

@@Rudy97 I mean, the whole thing of primitive building is the... well... _primitive_ part. The appeal comes from a project done entirely by hand. At the same time though, these half-primitive builds have an appeal in and of themselves. However, selling them as "entirely made by hand" is extremely disingenuous. Just call it something like "interesting builds"; don't try and sell it as something that it isn't.

[@Jed9300]

@@ShermTank7272 yeah trust me its not easy work even if it was run by all machines, fake "primitive building" takes away the real recognition for actual construction workers.

[@theexchipmunk]

The thing with Primitive Technology is also, you can see that his builds take months. The Brick hut is a good example, as the video goes you can see the algae growing on the already layed bricks, you can see the wood age while he is building. You can observe the time going on as he crafts. And thats a very good indication for his stuff being legit, as this would not happen if he was working with the help of modern technogogy.

[@alexdexter5496]

Not only that but they're incremental. One episode just to show moulds and brick making makes an episode using said moulds to make an impressive brick hut more legit. Or the culmination of many different episodes to eventually make iron.

[@kittycat8222]

He’s just saying the large deep areas used machinery and they also have professional architects to make sure it will be solid. I’m sure these men do all the craftsmen stuff by hand.

[@migueeeelet]

@@alexdexter5496 And sometimes he revisits previous projects.. because you need to maintain your things!

[@landon2plants]

You can also see his hair grow over time

[@levimaynard6903]

As a bushcraft builder myself, I’ve tried to build some of these simpler structures, and they are near impossible unless it is tooken over a year to build

[@minecraftfox4384]

Taken.

[@pembomassive1394]

@@minecraftfox4384took

[@PeterHassell-k4u]

​@@minecraftfox4384taken 2

[@encycl07pedia-]

it took* or it has taken* There is no middle ground.

[@PeterHassell-k4u]

@@encycl07pedia- 😆😆👍

[@Eralen00]

I always figured Mr. Primitive Technology was legit. You literally see him doing everything by hand. Its also much more interesting to me to see actual survival style structures being built than these crazy pools and water slide nonsense

[@bubbles1335]

the feeling of true passion is even stronger when i see someone doing it legitimately after seeing sooo many fakes

[@matthewalvarojr.2634]

The sheer scale of what he accomplishes is so much more believable too. He never makes these huge, grandiose, structures.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

@@MohRidwanWidiyana0_o Ye I mean there is really no reason to use a stone axe to cut every single tree. Showing it CAN be done is good enough. I dont mind if he uses modern tools. Imagine how ridiculous it would be to chop 100% of wood with a stone axe lol or dig a hole with just a stick. Proving the concept is plenty good. After that using modern techniques to speed up the labor is alright.

[@idkanymore9228]

Am I really gonna need a god dam pool while I'm being hunted by wild animals and bugs

[@littilittiti1272]

The effort fits to the outcome. If i See the little vietnamees from primitiv technology nothing fits. His "homemade" concrete wall from homemade cement.... Absolutly impossible.... I'm civil eng. I know the effort for making cement.... no and never....

[@ViviSectia]

I've always wondered what happened to these structures after they were completed. Sad to see that they're just abandoned. I always assumed they were partially demolished or covered in dirt and reused for other videos since a lot of the structures look very similar.

[@AmazingRofa]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6PRpmRph65qabM Finally it's here,

[@8-ball459]

Sadly it wasn't there

[@adlirez]

Oddly enough John Plant (the OG Primitive Technology) uses all his structures to their fullest and even builds them as prep for bigger projects (he made a roofed house as a workshop so he could make projects under the shelter of said workshop (like bricks and brick kilns)

[@alexanikolas9172]

All the water probably becomes a breeding ground for mosquitoes and other insects. Yikes.

[@austinvalentine6126]

Just think, they could be building homes for people

[@pian-0g445]

Primitive Technology despite not releasing much anymore, is still inspirational and also insightful. Not just reading how things were made with more primitive things l, but seeing it

[@krisztiansturm1690]

I recommend you check out Chad Zuber. He makes similar videos but uploads more often

[@jonathan2350]

He is back! He released a book. That's why he didn't upload in so long.

[@krisztiansturm1690]

I didn't know about that. Thanks

[@WiseMysticalTree4]

Dont Read My Name,

[@rainerschwindler2596]

Yeah it's nice but No need to pretend you could be Like three of these Things per year With two people. For such buildings you need Like 30 slaves to build Them With that technology in a few weeks.

[@wolfwolf3765]

I viewed a few of their videos and personally I'm never convinced that they did it with just 2 persons alone. Thanks for making this video SunnyV2.

[@GrizzlyTank]

I was always extremely skeptical about the clean cuts and sharp edges seen in those videos. As someone who is familiar with doing manual labor and basic construction I find it very hard to believe that any patch of land could be dug out so cleanly with only sticks and shovels. A jungle floor would be filled with rocks and tree roots and removing any of them would cause the structure to collapse. They are almost certainly dug with machines and reinforced with panels then covered with clay or mud to hide evidence of modern building materials.

[@calvinezeokafor3360]

I thought about this tooooo

[@NoahHornberger]

a lot of them are carved out of soft sandstone, not dirt

[@Butcho22]

"almost certainly" lol there's no doubt about it whatsoever

[@davekachel]

they leave tools quite often visible. Shovels, picks, etc to the side.

[@bamers404]

Now this is very helpful

[@kylet3390]

I am also a Civil Engineer. Some of these unsupported clay "structures" with sharp edges and no visible support are either completely fake (covering steel, or more likely wood, in a clay facade) or super dangerous and unstable. I would imagine it would be the first assumption because there haven't been any collapses shown in their videos yet. That clay soil they are building with weighs at least 100 pounds per cubic foot and is probably more like 130-150 pcf because of how dense it is from the wetting & drying. Also their unsupported trenches and excavations would give any OSHA compliance officer a heart attack

[@kylet3390]

Also they should really be careful rubbing that concrete all over their hands. Concrete poisoning is real and the burns you can get on your skin from it can be nasty.

[@BlurbFish]

@@kylet3390 Concrete poisoning? I'm aware that cement is a fairly caustic substance, but I fail to see how it can be poisonous.

[@kylet3390]

@@BlurbFish It’s from the pre-mixed cement dust. When you breathe it in the cement undergoes the hydration process inside of your respiratory system, which is what causes concrete poisoning. The dust is also carcinogenic. Additionally, the additives like silica fume, limestone dust, etc. are usually carcinogenic and there are studies linking exposure to that stuff to dementia later in life. If you’re ever around concrete dust or really any kind of industrial/construction dust for more than a very brief period of time, it’s best to wear a respirator or at least dust mask. You can also look up material safety data sheets for pretty much anything- that tells you what to be aware of. It’s worth being safe!!!

[@BlurbFish]

@@kylet3390 Ah, I was completely focused on poisoning via ingestion/contact, and got blindsided by inhalation. Generally speaking, inhalation of fine particulate matter is bad for your lungs, so I shouldn't be surprised that inhalation of cement dust is also bad. Re-reading your initial comment, I'd also like to add that the absence of shown collapses is not evidence that the structures aren't unstable - especially when the channels already have a reputation for preferring facade over facts.

[@Zak-tk8wv]

yes

[@bugtastic6631]

I've been subscribed to Primitive Technology since practically his 1st video. The man sharpens stones to strip bark to be beaten into fibers that he then weaves into rope to build his home, 100% *in front of the camera*. He will dedicate minutes out of a video to show just how much time went into doing one thing if it warrants it, because even little things take time. No smash cuts to hours later, no tools but what he makes on camera. Homie even burned his hands in Lye, making mortar for his clay brick walls. That kind of dedication is something I haven't seen in any other primitive tech/life channel, which sucks, because I love the genre...

[@kaigrant88]

I've watched his iron tool build and I was so amazed with the blade he got away recently! He's an actual og

[@bugtastic6631]

@@kaigrant88 I've seen a lot of people try to forge iron from ore in similar processes, and his method made most of them look amature, despite years of experience. The pump drill impeller design forge blower is genius. Definitely the OG.

[@dingus42]

Have you seen Primitive Skills' series though? He's a channel that started off as another copycat of the OG Prim Tech but quickly became quite legit from what I've seen. He doesn't do these ridiculous swimming pool videos either but more realistic survival stuff. At he very least he doesn't claim to be from the USA like the other channels, but openly states it's in Vietnam. He also shows almost everything he painstakingly does on camera, from metalwork and woodwork to farming. After watching this vid I have my doubts but I do think he is legit as well.

[@bugtastic6631]

@@dingus42 Yes! His channel is one of the select few that actually looks fairly legit to me. I like his videos because you can see the his progress in developing his own patch of property. Although from what I've seen some of his methods utilize more modern materials or do things behind the scenes (such as his videos on making iron tools vs Primitive Technology's) ultimately from what I've seen, it's for the development of his land aswell as a video series. So I can overlook some things with him, because a lot of his ideas are interesting, practical and plausible. I agree he started off a bit questionable, but he's gotten better.

[@Xartavion]

I've been watching John's videos for over a year now, and I've watched every single one of them. Some, I've watched several times because I couldn't remember parts of how he accomplishes some tasks. I've enjoyed just how AUTHENTIC his methods are, as I've lived most of my life using bushcraft and wilderness survival skills similar to what he does. I'm so pleased to watch this video and see it holding him up as the 'authentic end of the scale'. I couldn't agree more. Without ever having met the man, I can confirm many of his methods from my own experience decades before seeing these videos!

[@natileroxs5226]

Honestly, I wish these channels would just be honest on how these builds are done. They all look pretty cool, it'd be nice to watch the real process

[@nmplab]

It’s time for them to make a behind the scenes? 😂

[@EEEEEEEE]

E‎

[@yourcommentisntfunnyv2709]

@The TacoCat No.

[@vidard9863]

honestly they would be more interesting to me if i saw the how side.

[@Just_Flipy]

exacly, then they might be able to make even bigger things, and I would not care

[@jacknickels8341]

im glad Primitive technology got some recognition as the founder of this genre in this video. I remember finding his stuff back in 2017 while i was in highschool and have enjoyed his content since. He's leagues above any other channel like his

[@meodrac]

I was absolutely gutted when he stopped uploading then I found a deceptive channel copying his name and uploading shitty replicas

[@MrDantheNobody]

He has started uploading again.

[@derekhunter5040]

He's streets ahead.

[@hornetf18]

He’s moved onto the Iron Age now.

[@ccauvang]

@@hornetf18 😂

[@jshtng78]

Honestly, severely understating the amount of manpower/resources/technology involved in a build and taking solo credit is EXACTLY what a primitive leader would do back before doing background research was easy. At least nowadays they can't literally bury their entire build team afterwards.

[@ok-kk3ic]

Source? Example?

[@crystallineAurora]

​@@ok-kk3ic I'm pretty sure that this is talking about, like, the pyramids of giza or other ancient megastructures, though it's hard to call the pyramid-era egyptians 'primitive' with a straight face.

[@Dan_Kanerva]

@@ok-kk3ic ask for "source" about the oldest practice of humankind leaders... LMAO

[@PsicosisYT]

@@crystallineAurora Hopefully if he was talking about the egyptians he's aware the builders for temples/pyramids were not slaves or servants but well sought after workers, respected in their community chosen for the holy task of building these things for their god, the pharaoh. If they were buried with the build, it was in their own tombs.

[@AndrewKieran]

@@PsicosisYT I think they were mostly corvee labour actually

[@animestudios4856]

Whenever I watch a SunnyV2 video, I end up subscribing to channels and liking songs and stuff😂 Love it❤

[@lazygardens]

A friend, a civil engineer, built a water filtration system for a village in Mexico using only "locally sourced" materials. Local means they could dig it out or cut it down and haul it to the site. There were saws and steel chisels and surveying instruments in use. It took him and most of the village several months of working part time to build the system. It wasn't fancy, but it made potable water and could be maintained by the village. No alligators, water slides or underground hidden mansions ... just clean water.

[@TheBlackhawk1354]

ok

[@quantumblauthor7300]

"how wasteful, a village in Mexico could have eaten those alligators"

[@visible2NE1one0nUtube]

how do I get involved in something like that

[@chimkinNuggz]

@@quantumblauthor7300 this aint africa

[@lazygardens]

@Luis Suazo It was for a village in Nayarit - The water was from a small creek that was not biologically safe to drink.

[@contessa.adella]

I love the way all their digging is in conveniently soft clay or crumbly sandstone…you can only do this in a very few limited locations.

[@WiegerJonker]

It's like how in the A-Team every single episode they'd get locked up somewhere and then as luck would have it, they'd find everything they'd need to build.. a tank. Except that was of course obviously fantasy, whereas this is presented as legit.

[@nicholas7548]

I'd love to see a primitive underground mansion build in Northern Ontario, complete with insulation and a wood stove.

[@lucianamartim4273]

@@nicholas7548 🙂🙂 me too

[@oshabot1646]

@@WiegerJonker damn the a team sounds trippy

[@crystalaquatica6402]

So they planned and made sure to do their construction where the soil was adequate? How hard is that to believe? What are you saying? They staged the earth?

[@Sovative]

honestly for someone that just wanted to watch anything and call it a day while eating my food, i never payed attention until the water part came in. was shocked how quick the water was dropping from those bamboo's and i was very confident that this was very fake. until i came upon your video. nicely done. you earned yourself a like and a subscribe

[@fmac6441]

Exactly, when I want to watch what can be done, I look for a channel where the constructions look like they were made by a guy in the middle of nowhere. But I don't mind wasting a few minutes watching a video in which all of a sudden a huge underground construction appears almost out of nowhere, even if I don't even for a moment think it's true.

[@Noah5110]

Same

[@Barlmoro]

i watchet today one of the videos who the faker claims to survice one jeahr in the forrest. i thought it would be real but had one really big uff moment: why his hair looks the same as at the beginning if he claims it was a jeahr.

[@Beforeitsgone00]

Just because you like long form video content doesn’t mean you have to be brain dead about what you choose to watch.

[@beastdude]

This certainly puts a different view on those channels. I'll take this info into consideration the next time I'm watching one as more of a 'personal project on private land' rather than a 'survival' type thing. Also, the only thing that actually annoys me if only a little, especially if the builds are on private land, is the clean up of the plastic bags and anything that won't just 'return to earth naturally over time'. Sure it might be private land, but at least clean up a little afterwards.

[@chrissyboi88b]

I'm an excavator operator and I know from digging hundreds if not thousands of holes for swimming pools, septic tanks and ponds that the amount of dirt that comes out is quite unbelievable, so my issues with these videos is that it would take 2 men a very very long time to dig and then move the dirt by hand in buckets to another location. I take the videos for what they are and just enjoy the architecture and the creativity of the team, even tho they are lying to everyone.

[@bintjbeil7892]

I think Modern Self Reliance has showed that it takes a lot of time to dig an underground hole with just him and his buddy.

[@rinbin9772]

By far the most obvious one if you really think about it. They're moving *tons* of material in some of these builds. That's not accomplished with 2 sticks and 4 hands in any reasonable amount of time. At least if you're using modern shovels and wheelbarrows and stuff you could maybe see a few people doing it over the course of weeks.

[@beestingza]

They aren't "cool". They are stupid holes in the ground that would be of no practical use to real primitive peoples because stagnant groundwater without filtration/constant replenishment quickly becomes filthy and full of mosquito larvae.

[@imperiumoccidentis7351]

I once had to lower a metre-deep pit by an extra 30cm across a 7x4 metre area by hand with nothing but a shovel, a small pick and a wheel barrow. The amount of dirt produced in just that tiny amount of digging was incredible, not to mention that the work itself was very hard, and that was with proper metal tools and not just a slightly sharpened stick.

[@tomcapon4447]

Absolutely. Just look at Colin Furze taking years to excavate a few dozen feet of tunnel under his home. He did it without the neighbors finding out--no heavy machinery in sight!

[@lucasm.3864]

The imperfections and the relatively small builds are what make Primitive Technology so great. The tiny wins add up and give a real sense of progression from video to video. I’d rather watch five 10 minute videos of him making the tools and materials for his bigger projects rather than a single one with him making a mansion.

[@urickyo5370]

100% yes to this comment.

[@imrevadasz4564]

Also Primitive Technology is mostly about what the title says, technology. Not really about the specific projects.

[@acshepard6779]

Yes, well-put video. As a civil/structural engineer, I was never convinced with the Southeast Asian Primitive Build channels' builds- too precise considering the tools available, no soil corrosion, water unnaturally blue, amount of manpower, etc as mentioned. But then again, it should be fairly obvious there's MORE involved in their projects than what they're letting on and not being truthful even if the viewer has no engineering/architecture/construction background.

[@LowJSamuel]

Reading through the comments on these videos, one thing that helps them fool people is the exotic location. People believe the soil in southeast Asia is more diggable and comprised of something that makes concrete, even if they have experience trying to dig a hole in their own yards where they live.

[@baverfjant]

In a few you could actually see tracks from what I assume was excavators. I pointed it out and people freaked out saying I was talking shit and that it was absolutely possible, "with the power of the mind", for 1-2 guys to do all that by hand.

[@jose.montojah]

Ah shit, are we crumbling the virgin forest for views??? Fucking AI will kill us and we'll be applauding it.

[@BKaino]

The truth is that most of these can be done by one person. However, that will take ages. The point of the channel is to make money. if there are shortcuts to produce a better product in a short time, why not do it. The issue is money. The O.G primitive channel was a person who was fascinated by primitive technology. The others just want the money from youtube.

[@BabyCalypso]

well the blue water comes from the floors being painted blue

[@outoftheforest7652]

There really needs to be a class solely devoted to teaching kids.. and anyone about all the falsity of the INTERNET... from troll farms to fake videos on and on and on.

[@variadi]

Man I was such a fool for thinking that a lot of effort is put into these videos, but this video explains everything now. It makes so much sense. Big ups to Sunny for conducting an outstanding ounce of research.

[@milansnewaccount2781]

sunny boy is a liar

[@arnaud4588]

Makes two of us but no worries because as they will only fool us once it's really shame on them mate

[@Cavi587]

I mean - it's still quite a bit of effort. But it's the fact that they are ingenuine and fake that makes it bad. Like come on, the builds themselves are really cool, I bet they would get many views even if they were genuine and recorded how these builds are really made. Instead they do this fake crap.

[@froogality]

In hindsight, you'd be pretty dumb to believe that they are really doing this all by hand. Don't get me wrong, they fooled me too, but taking a look back and realizing it's fake makes it make a lot more sense

[@j.g.3293]

Always thought it was suspicious how they always managed to have perfectly uniform, debris-free dirt. Pretty sure they use the same site repeatedly too since they wouldn’t have to go thru the trouble of “cleaning” the dirt again

[@yakhooves]

I was legitimately anxious when I clicked on this video, worrying that Primitive Technology himself was cheating. I’ve loved that channel since I found it years ago, and was so impressed, it was the first time I ever used patreon. I had no idea there even were any other copycats, but seeing them for the first time in this video, it was immediately obvious that it was nonsense. Glad Primitive Technology is keeping up his work! Thanks for making this video!

[@jimmytrex0920]

My brother was heavily inspired by primitive building videos, and dragged me outside to make one ourselves. Then we realized we had no idea what we were doing, so we switched to modern tools. Even with actual tools like saws and nails and screws, the process in which we had to find the right trees and logs for our “hut” and build one from scratch took about 3 weeks.

[@bcs2677]

1 person 1hour, 10person 1hour is 10meshour, so 10person at 10hours is one workday.emagine what you can do wit 20 people in one week, without camerateam. if wood is prepared allready, you do it in a day or go back to scool. Are you wathing thos videos for entertainment or to hate ????? i love those videos

[@yourflyisopen]

@@bcs2677 Fix your damn grammar, and OP didn't hate your 'favourite' videos, they just stated how hard is it to make a hut with or without tools.

[@randomcommenter8057]

How did it turn out?

[@loadingcylinder9067]

When you use modern tools it’s called bush craft

[@jimmytrex0920]

@@randomcommenter8057 actually pretty good! After 3 winters it’s still standing

[@chrissymes]

I love the respect given to and from primitive technology and this channel. It's nice to see people supporting eachother

[@Ddddddddddd381]

I absolutely love Primitive Technology and have been watching John for years. I am so glad he’s back and getting some much deserved recognition and respect from other community members. It’s easy to see him as isolated because of the nature of his videos and I’m happy people are giving him the much deserved kudos

[@forgivezharion6989]

Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this you 🤓🤓👶🏽👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻

[@dark-ghost5455]

Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYG8gIFtqs5sl5Y

[@Sockren]

these bots prolly support womens rights😔😔😔😔😔😔

[@Tw0Dots]

@@Sockren lmao hows that a bad thing

[@susamogus8331]

Dang poor dude 5 replies, 2 bots, 1 guy mocking him ,1 guy talking about bots and 1 guy responding to the guy talking about bots

[@TheRealGemKeeper]

I actually did not know that most of these primitive building videos were faked, thank you for bringing light to this!

[@forgivezharion1261]

Ratio + yb better + I don’t care + this you 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

[@homeland1128]

They literally staged crystal clear😭😭 how do ppl couldn't see it.

[@bartvanhout7580]

Common sense

[@StarsFc578]

Sunny back with another banger

[@SuperIdeaIsHere]

Same

[@theHedgehogPro]

I grew up hacking down trees and building forts in the Amazon rainforest with my friends as a young teen. When I saw these videos my first initial reaction was "huh, we couldn't have dug 3 square inches without hitting roots the size of your arm"

[@thedecafe1]

I grew lol 😂

[@moonmelon2439]

i live in Colorado where the dirt is extremely hard. me and my friend William spend like 5 hours digging a hole that was like 2 feet deep. from what i hear, the dirt in Aisa isn't much better.

[@moonmelon2439]

and every day i go to my garage and pump weights for 10 minutes. i really hate dishonest work. people who do their jobs correctly and honestly are people you can depend on.

[@gaming.boi.]

@@moonmelon2439 thanks for commenting on ur experiences

[@ulquiorraschiffer1956]

why would you build forts in Amazon? also isn't it illegal to chop down trees in that area?

[@jpgr8937]

I'm so glad Primitive Technology is getting recognized like this. I subscribed to him in 2015 or so and have learned so much from him.

[@oomfie_rhine]

When I first watched Primitive Technology, I was simply captivated by the pure simplicity and down-to-earth nature the videos have. It's just one guy, one camera, the nature and an idea. I know it's truly geniune because every single step is cohesive to each other didn't cut out any edges. Comparing his videos to other "fake" primitive videos are honestly a heaven-and-hell difference.

[@forgivezharion6989]

Ratio + yb better + nobody cares + this u 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👶🏽👨🏼‍💻

[@mylegghh]

I make entertaining content too, if it’s trash please let me know

[@kokeshi7795]

@@forgivezharion6989 oh, another cringey ratio guy.

[@razernexus2717]

@@kokeshi7795 wow, you surprised?

[@Twi66e]

Jesus Christ... every single one of these replies is a bot

[@quintusaquila34]

I always liked Primitive Technology, the fact that you see his process and the quality matches the primitive nature of his builds always gave his channel a ring of authenticity. The copycats on the other hand even before they started more extravagant builds like giant pools and underground bunk beds, I notice something fishy with their editing. How one moment they would be making a straw hut by hand, and then hard cut to it finished and looking like a 5 star resort cabana. Once they began more complicated builds, I figured these guys were fake. It's weird but I think the fact that reason so many people buy into the ridiculous builds by the fake channels, is that they are made in Cambodia by Cambodians and play on the western perceptions of their supposed primitiveness. In the videos they portray themselves like humble village folk who are using their seemingly aboriginal knowledge of life in these forests to lend their builds the appearance of legitimacy. I've seen similar videos by similar groups about fishing traps, where they build these primitive looking contraptions out of bamboo, plastic bottles and holes in the ground and manage to catch buckets full of large fish, but they are almost always staged.

[@Barlmoro]

one thing i saw that makes me believe something is fishy. one copycat claims he was there for months and his hair is perfet the hole time. same length and cut at the beginning at the end.

[@cheddarcheezit2647]

@Master General please stop spamming weird nationalist stuff all over the place. I'm like 50% sure you're a bot, but just in case you aren't, please stop.

[@dopaminecloud]

@Master General yooo is that ANOTHER new version of american paranoia gone wild? crazy

[@jaybelle1909]

It's entertainment why are ppl getting offended by obvious staged videos?

[@jaybelle1909]

@@dopaminecloud mostlikely MG is from the alphabet group

[@TheMadisonMachine]

I've been watching Primitive Technology for years, dude is clearly deeply passionate about this stuff. I feel bad that there's so many bogus channels named after him to pull views away from him and confuse people new to the genre.

[@banditaviation1924]

Yeah I just discovered him yesterday and saw this video suggested today. I guess I got lucky not finding one of the imitation channels instead

[@dannybrezelhorner2715]

You ever notice how so many of these videos have an "animal sidekick" like a random puppy or something like that? Makes you wonder where the animals go in-between videos..

[@marcusbullock630]

*into the soup*

[@themagiccarrot1968]

honestly, a video showing 10 guys building a cool underground swimming pool would be pretty fun to watch, more fun then just 2

[@robotube7361]

Yes, but then it wont be anything special about it. You could watch other construction videos doing much bigger things. They know very well that if the audence knew there were escavators and shovels, people would not be intrested much. The appeal is that its all done by human bare hands.

[@IceBlueLugia]

@@robotube7361 Honestly idk about that. I think it would be kinda fun and satisfying to watch sped up montages of builders and stuff making these cool designs and ideas

[@axelfirekirby]

@@robotube7361 At least it whould be honest

[@noahshad09]

@@IceBlueLugia I agree

[@robotube7361]

@@IceBlueLugia but there are tons of videos like those on youtube that dont get the attention they deserve

[@tylergriffith1364]

Has no one ever turned on the closed captions on primitive technology’s videos. He walks through the science and techniques of what he’s doing. Not just digging holes and making mud like all these other channels

[@Crosshill]

i remember explicitly not turning the captions on cause i liked to be confused and surprised whenever the pieces finally came together

[@Sanquinity]

@@Crosshill Don't just remember, start watching again. He's back to making videos again. :P

[@billlange9408]

For a long time, I didn't put captions on. Then one day they just happened to be on from another video when I started his and my mind was blown. Won't watch it any other way now. I even go back and watched the older ones this way. Such a different experience!

[@Sanquinity]

@@billlange9408 Yea I really like the explanations in the captions. Gives nice extra information that you can't get from just watching. And it doesn't detract from the calm and relaxing atmosphere of the videos.

[@EternalShadow1667]

Everybody turns on captions, I swear, it’s the number 1 thing to do on his vids

[@maqaroon]

This was basically what content farms did to DIY channels on KZbin. Bulldozed out all the authentic creators by stealing ideas and faking videos. However I have mixed feelings about this genre because even the videos are clearly staged, the producers, editors and cast members are people living in countries where that amount of KZbin views & revenue is legitimately life changing. There are unlikely to be many other ways to make that much money and it still involves a ton of planning and hard labour. If the team in those videos and their families were fairly compensated, then they can have my suspension of disbelief that somewhere out there is a handmade swimming pool inside a jungle. They should actually start charging tourists to visit the sites, or invite famous travel/urbex KZbinrs to fly out there. Primitive building seems different to those life hack/crafting content farms who are all based in tax havens (eg Malta) and run by people who most certainly don't need the extra cash.

[@FinnishCrystal]

Its the rich getting richer. As Sunny said, this is filmed on private land, by a private studio, that is capable of hiring mountains of experienced people and owning large construction vehicles. The teams of people may be in on the scheme, and considering their skillset, it shouldn't be too difficult finding work.

[@CrazyChickenFarmer]

Dude, the amount of views they get generates life changing money in any country of the world. They are still scumbags

[@dimaua1830]

This refers to the ethics of the documentary genre as a whole. But in short, people don't like being misled on a large scale.

[@Anonymous-sb9rr]

They are dishonest and ruin the genre, whether they are rich or poor doesn't make any difference.

[@tribalbeat6471]

The problem is that you can see the sites fall apart and basically become huge holes in the ground within days of filming. You simply cannot keep a perfectly vertical wall up like that that's 10' deep for more than a few days. Sooner or later, and likely sooner considering their geography, it will rain and the walls will very quickly give way.

[@alastorclark3492]

Primitive technology is the man. He started it all and no one can come close to comparing. I have been subed from the get go.

[@zerofactor7871]

One thing that gave it away, at least for me, was the conspicuous lack of wear on the builder's hands and feet, as well as how clean they managed to stay throughout the videos. If someone's been digging in dense, heavy dirt and clay for days with tools and materials made by hand, you will be able to see that in their appearance. They will be covered from head to toe in dried mud and dirt, they'll have lots of small cuts and scrapes on their hands and arms, and being barefoot all the time these guys' legs would be caked with dirt all the way past their knees. You can see the results, but looking at the guys who supposedly did it all by hand, a trained eye can tell that they didn't do it all themselves or without machinery. I've worked in a variety of very strenuous trades in my life, and I can very easily tell that these guys aren't doing all of this themselves, with primitive tools. They'd be way more beat up than they are, and they would also be more sinewy and muscular than they are.

[@galaxywonders7819]

My thoughts exactly. It should be obvious by appearance alone

[@abhaysharmafitness]

we all know it's all fake but doesn't even matter cause the majority of the viewers are kids or luddite.

[@Dracon7601]

@@abhaysharmafitness Considering luddites reject technology they would probably know better

[@sqlevolicious]

Primitive tech is my number favorite channel on youtube. The guy has god-level patience and stamina becasue he ACTUALLY never uses any modern tools, whatsoever. He literally only uses the earth around him to build. The other channels are just copying him, and him alone. He's been around longer than copy channels became a thing, proving that he really is the OG. I highly recommend everyone to go sub to him, his videos are always super chill and relaxing to watch while maintaining max interest in what he is building, all with his bare hands and limited primitive tools. The guy is legendary and needs to be recognized more as a pillar of the youtube community.

[@costanzafaust]

no doubt.. when I clicked on this I was hoping it wouldn't expose PT as some kind of faker, but I figured it was gonna tear down all the copycat channels for sure.

[@Sanquinity]

PT is definitely the OG. And he deserves all the views he gets. It's his hobby to research and build that stuff, and he just decided to make videos out of them. Even so it's a LOT of work and effort. There's a good reason why there's always about a month in between his videos. Another channel I can recommend is Chad Zuber. A survivalist who also does the primitive thing with his new series. It's more focused on the survival aspects as he actually lives like that for months on end, but yea still a legit and great channel as well.

[@sqlevolicious]

@@Sanquinity His book is amazing too! It's pretty easy to figure out that John Plant is very much about education, and has a love for teaching. I think it's important to market him to others since his entire identity and interest subject is so positive. He also has a patreon too!

[@scraub8913]

Oh thank God Primitive Technology is legit, dunno how he wouldn't be, he's the only dude I care to watch as he shows all of his processes. What he does is really impressive.

[@user-gg8nf4xo4m]

Yeah I was scared for a second

[@poorlydigitallydrawngigachad]

Yep the og primitive technology , primitive skills and Chad zuber are prolly the only legit ones I know

[@jaxprid]

He's also the only one that actually builds stuff, the others just dig a hole in the ground, I'd hate to go to where they film, you wouldn't be able to go 100 meters without falling into a "pool"

[@beckbeck5110]

I thought Primitive Technology stopped making videos years ago?

[@kakyoindonut3213]

@@beckbeck5110 probably quarantine but after 2 years my guy is now making videos again

[@willkayl8793]

You’re right, Sunny. If they just said that 20-30 people made these cool structures, it would be fine. They’re still fun to watch.

[@RenegadeLK]

The irony is that they’d probably still easily make over 15 million views showing the authentic building process. Machines and crew included in.

[@Deleted_Cat]

True I would watch that

[@jameson7276]

Probably not.

[@poipoi300]

You're in for a rude awakening if you decide to search "underground pool" on here. There's no irony, only profitable lies.

[@MixtPersonality]

I watch it because its a primitive build and im sure alot of others do as well

[@MariWarii]

@@poipoi300 wdym by that

[@levintine777]

I always knew this kind of videos are fake. Everything is so well made, there’s no way 2 guys in a middle of a jungle would pull this off so cleanly. Even if they did, i’d took them months just for the foundation alone

[@comforthZone]

They never said it took them days

[@juniuwu]

@@comforthZone It literally says in the video that they did.

[@superspies32]

I has suspect the same thing. I recognize them as Vietnamese or people in SEA and feel suspicious about their works. Because basically the terrain they used simply unfamiliar for lenses or make film. And in the latter, go to the jungle and dig a big structure like that in Vietnam can lead you to serious charges or imprisoned. Also after Primitive Technology post a video about metallurgy, I can confirmed my suspicious on Primitive Tech Idea about forging iron works when compare PT final yield and products with PTI ones.

[@madensmith7014]

The clean water is a dead giveaway, but the whole thing looks fun anyway so I still watch em. I'm actually more surprised that there's an authentic guy going primitve in Australia.

[@KingPlayzStuff]

I think the surviving 365 days one is real because all the techniques looked real like him literally hunting the fish and then cooking them on a grill he shows himself making

[@rokka7188]

As a craftsman and an interest in old methods, history, etc. I've had discussions with others about certain primitive building channels, on rather small stuff like where would they source iron, or how did they manage to make that tool, etc. But I never really realized how fake some of those actual building videos were as well. I just wonder, since there are plenty of bushcraft channels, being honest about using like steel tools or something, really wouldn't be that bad to admit or say in a primitive technology video. If you wanted to just demonstrate something, but didn't want to spend godly amount of time on the technical stuff, when dealing with stone tools.

[@Scnottaken]

John plant recently actually managed to smelt some iron from bacteria.

[@NeilEricson]

@@Scnottaken he's actually smelted iron a couple times from bacteria, but he did just recently make a tool out of it.

[@rainerschwindler2596]

Yes, i also focused too much in the small Details and didn't really think about the whole Project and how unrealistic it is.

[@rainerschwindler2596]

@@NeilEricson i smelled ass and managed to make that smell to iron

[@thesheerwoodcrow5465]

I’ve always got been curious about the times things are colored or painted it’s not to hard to make pigment from plant but some colors seem harder if not impossible to find where they are

[@mihaleben6051]

8:28 fun fact: with my brother, we discovered that pouring water on sand makes sticky sand. Sand is the best, man.

[@Kongjie57]

Big respect to Primitive Technology, the Aussie guy - seems like a great lad who just wants to do his own thing, and do it well.

[@kirojk666]

+1

[@TK-7193]

+2

[@mdariff839]

+3

[@R3m1ly]

+4

[@benjaminfischer4451]

-1

[@rjb9999]

I thought Primitive Technology's contents were niche at its time, then came other "primitive" duo builder KZbinrs who get more recognition than the former does. Mr. Plant deserves so much more.

[@s.s7337]

@@kentkoleslau7390 Why?

[@mapytrix3982]

@dash shut up my man.

[@sterlingbrown5]

What a ridiculous opinion

[@feritye767]

@@sterlingbrown5 what a ridiculous opinion

[@siin9522]

FUNNY FOOTAGE OF PHILIP RÄPING A BUNNY: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYjJlWuFn7yerck

[@Adi-lc6vw]

I once showed this primitive building footage to my grandpa. Pops was a WW2 veteran and told me that it was all fake. He exactly said "Kid we dug trenches back in the war. It was a nightmare after a few meters." I lost respect to all these dudes after that. Rest in peace gramps. I miss you a lot...

[@jockeolzzon1222]

The ground is alot different in the jungle, not much stone and easier to dig

[@abcdc197]

@@jockeolzzon1222 Good thing then WW2 didn't happen in any jungles or countries that have them! Amazing answer! I wonder where tf did you go to school...

[@chipotlepolice9408]

Investigative journalism is not dead, it just comes from different people. Congrats homie

[@alxm1271]

Hey Sunny, Thank you so much for helping to expose those fakers. Your explanation is actually pretty on point and very concise. Happy to be featured on your channel for a good purpose. Keep up the good work mate!

[@ingolimbu5071]

visca barca 💯

[@jorgeflores902]

It's the best civil engineer himself, thank you for exposing these fakers

[@Phycorax]

Do you have instructions on making a remote detonated bomb? It's for my science fair.

[@KitchenFSink]

The man, the legend

[@alxm1271]

@@Phycorax LOL, no :D You really made me laugh

[@rossplendent]

I definitely thought this was going to be some "takedown" of the OG Primitive Technology, and was ready to fight a bitch, because that guy is clearly legit. Detailed, ordered, functional builds based in real empirically-testable ways. I've learned a lot from him, and I appreciate his recent return to the space!

[@moviemaker2011z]

I mean honestly they can even say that while the build isn't made using primitive technology, the structure itself is, using natural elements and not having anything more complicated then that. No electricity, no steel support or actual construction grade cement or pavers. This would still fall under a primitive build because they could say "we aren't claiming the building part is primitive but the structure IS" and that alone would be fun still to watch. Making paint/dye from berries and what not is also possible and would allow them a fine chance to decorate and make the building much more appealing to the eyes. There's a pretty logical way this could have been done, yet they all opted to just lie and be illegitimate at least in terms of face value.

[@rjbradlow]

@@moviemaker2011z because it would take a swimming pool full of berries to paint said pool. Oh and let's not forget about the trash left behind like cement bags.

[@LKLM138]

Same here

[@alehlete830]

those channels never clean up either there was a gu ywh owen to the fakers underwater pool and it was a mess and tools and stuff were everywhere and garbage

[@GMDBestBoi]

@@moviemaker2011z its not the fact that some of the things they did can be legit, it's the fact that they have lied just to earn money

[@RealEclipsed]

I have always hugely respected primitive technology, as he is clearly legitimate. The way he puts subtitles really removes any doubt, and the projects he takes on make sense for the scale they are, which can not be said for the other ones, aside from the obvious parts (like the massive f*cking esculator), the projects simply aren't viable with the tools they "use".

[@forgivezharion6989]

Ratio + yb better + I didn’t ask + this u 🤓🤓👶🏽👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻

[@gianrazon2639]

@@forgivezharion6989 lmao here too?

[@thesnivy2545]

@@dark-ghost5455 :nerd:

[@itwasonlylag]

kzbin.infoNQ4x9L5r86I legit bro

[@impfromdoom9137]

@@forgivezharion6989 counter ratio

[@Madman27-g6e]

The fakers: we work very hard for 100 days Also the fakers: earth cement

[@A_Fabulous_Killjoy]

Heh yeah lol

[@francescozawodniak7222]

During the summer of 2020 me and my father decided to build our own pool with only shovels (not a swimming pool but a little one, 5 m × 4 m and 1.5 m deep) and trust me, the digging part was so hard that it took us 1 month of digging to finally reach the level we wanted. Then it was all about cement and putting isolating material. The thing is that even we had shovels, it was a very long long process and tiresome, so if these videos were really made with sticks only, I think it would have took them years to build such pools.

[@ynk69]

i dont know the nature of the soil in the place where you had to dig, but i digged using only shovels with my dad and it shouldnt take that long. I once digged a well that is 10 feet deep and it took us just a whole day, and digging in such a confined space is damn hard, and having to get the dirt out on a ladder, plus constant flooding.

[@averin1745]

@@ynk69 Well I'm certainly no expert in digging but in this case "5m x 4m x 1.5m" is around "17ft x 14ft x 5ft" which is a significant amount of volume.

[@Fae-Fey]

@@averin1745 Seeing people misunderstood because they used two different units is very fascinating

[@AmazingRofa]

@@ynk69 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIKmh5-jqbatgsk Finally it’s here,

[@thelight3112]

For a job like that, it's totally worth it to get it all marked out and then rent a mini-excavator for £75/day.

[@EthalaRide]

Also, if you watch Primitive Technology's videos with the CC on, he lays out specific explanations and instructions to what is happening on the screen, like what exactly it is he's digging or collecting, or what the processes he's using for something like smelting.

[@XMcBainXUSA]

Pro tip here!

[@lukegleeson2134]

John from PT always struck me as a genuine individual with an interest in history/anthropology. As we all know, many of the techniques used by our ancestors for survival and construction are lost to the ages, and so we can only speculate and experiment in some cases to understand how they lived their lives. I think wanting to explore that mystery is very natural, and compelling, and I always felt that was what PT was pursuing. The other channels… well, no comment I guess. This is the internet, and people are going to do whatever they like, regardless of how genuine or “right” it may or may not be.

[@AmazingRofa]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5CpaZado51qhMU Finally it's here,

[@tinto278]

Are you talking about aboriginals? You know some academics seem to think aboriginals had a space program before the Europeans came in the 1800's. A book called Dark Emu that is fiction that is taught at schools as non-fiction, go woke go stupid.

[@alehlete830]

those channels never clean up either there was a gu ywh owen to the fakers underwater pool and it was a mess and tools and stuff were everywhere and garbage

[@AreYouGray]

That was always the main appeal for me, I'm disappointed these clearly deceptive channels get views simply for the 'final result' of complete fakery. What makes PT facinsating is he is doing exactly what our ancestors did and showcasing the process.

[@corykulenski3974]

Sunny I had to rewatch this. Such a good video. Thanks for the work

[@FuddlyDud]

I’m now thinking back to how I was excavating a single mound of soft dirt and sand with a good shovel (and wheelbarrowing it to the close dumpster) at my parents’ new house. The mound couldn’t be longer than maybe 4 by 2 meters (was a gutted water feature, so some rocks included). It took me two fairly full days of just digging to maybe get a third done, not counting the couple days of help from my brother and dad where we worked on it together. And the worst part is I never even thought these primitive building channels were fake at the start. I’m blindly consumed product and got mega duped. XD

[@hughjass5583]

@Raytheslay sybau

[@Kt-hp7cv]

@Raytheslay I’m inside your walls

[@FuddlyDud]

@Raytheslay Hahaha, but you cared enough to actually make a comment. :P

[@maxbracegirdle9990]

Idk, I always just assumed they were timelapsed over like 2weeks-2momths depending on the project..

[@sethhowerton1489]

@Raytheslay if you really didn't care you wouldn't of felt the need to comment lol

[@JakeKoenig]

I feel really sorry for anyone who actually believes that two guys in Thailand or wherever could build a mud mansion with a working swimming pool in 50 days using just their hands and primitive tools. And that they can dig 20 feet underground and only find consistently perfect dirt for building structures.

[@misterkefir]

Most people live in an utterly fake, non-existent reality, unfortunately.. Mostly thanks to the internet usage and movie watching. It's quite bad out there.

[@maxnaz47]

That's one of the things i'm jealous about the OG PT, he's found somewhere in Australia that has even clay without the massive rocks all spread though out it. Where i live, there is clay but it's so full of rocks it would take me 100 days just to dig a 1 meter hole, providing i don't don't dig into a massive boulder to begin with.

[@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917]

@@maxnaz47 Damn man, where I live (Northern California) you can pretty much dig a 1 foot hole and start pulling out big blocks of pretty "pure" clay. I used to live and work on a ranch and had to dig plenty of trenches and fence posts holes and what-not and I remember thinking to myself that the entire place is a clay mine lol.

[@alehlete830]

those channels never clean up either there was a gu ywh owen to the fakers underwater pool and it was a mess and tools and stuff were everywhere and garbage

[@sublime90]

filling up a 5,000 gallon pool one bucket at a time lol

[@crossingthetee6733]

As a Civil Engineer myself my biggest issues with these mass excavations is that in digging greater than a depth of 1.5 metres you *must* by law (in Australia at least) either bench (maximum depth of excavation 1.5 metres), batter (create a slope with the sides of the trench) or shore (install some sort of retaining wall to retain the material). This is because even though materials like clay (which you see in ALL of these videos - it's the only material that can stand by itself without falling over) can dry out over time and loose adhesion, and collapse. The reason why it's law in Australia is that people have been killed working in trenches deeper than that. From a practical perspective if people were working on these excavations for one hundred days unless the rainfall is constant, and often, the clay *will* dry out and collapse. If it does rain often enough you'd be busy pumping out the excavations all day every day. It's extremely dangerous and stupid to promote techniques like these as if others try such things, there is a SERIOUS risk that they'll be injured, lose limbs or even killed. Not only is are techniques like these disingenuous, they're dangerous.

[@Asax0]

Great comment, mate! Thanks for explaining this so clearly!

[@carterpenna5486]

I ain’t reading all that

[@2hotflavored666]

@@carterpenna5486 Then you ain't graduating from High School.

[@joem.3124]

@@carterpenna5486 I AIN READIN ALLAT ‼️🤣 💯 📜📜

[@Eshayzbra96]

ANY body thinking that they can dig, by hand, a trench that deep without the help of a massive team or machinery and thus the experiences and legal requirements of said teams and machinery, is thinking BELOW what the casual viewer is thinking when watching these. Because I guarantee that NOBODY went out and built a house IN the gound after watching them. Also, they're in south east Asia. Have you not seen how they build shit there mate? No point in rambling about the legalities of Australia, when scaffolders in these countries don't even wear harnesses 20 and above stories from the ground. Youre pissing up the wrong tree because nobody reading your post is going to dig a trench without the equipment or knowledge.

[@iammruncle]

it's a shame. I'm a Civil Engineer, I really had my doubts about the technicalities and structural works of some of their structures. they faked all of it just to generate views in order to get paid by youtube. it's a shame.

[@roboninja565]

The thing is; If these channels had big teams of indigenous people digging and working and building with historical tools, even if they skipped some digging with excavators, I'd still watch that. It could be a cool nat-geo-style cultural showcase about how the tools are designed and why the buildings are designed the way they are and all that. They had all the pieces they needed to be successful; but fakers don't think about how they can succeed, they only think about how they can steal the success of others.

[@ZacLowing]

But "big teams" need to be paid and these MFers are greedy

[@xxjabarri2xx]

ooooh, the Cultural Primitive Build-off, netflix's next reality contest idea!

[@hublotkingcole683]

@@xxjabarri2xx add a bake-off

[@zerotodona1495]

Unless you’re counting Europeans in your indigenous comment, then it’s a joke.

[@Lhaenen]

@@zerotodona1495 what

[@amberhernandez]

My heart dropped the second I saw Primitive Technology on here, and then Sunny went on to reiterate their credibility, to my relief. I _adore_ their videos, and to see other channels emulating their style without their substance for a cash grab is infuriating!

[@forgivezharion6989]

Ratio + yb better + I didn’t ask + this u 🤓🤓👶🏽👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻

[@dark-ghost5455]

yo Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYG8gIFtqs5sl5Y

[@notstoday465]

Samee, when he mentioned primitive tech I was like "no no no he wouldn't", big relief after that tho.

[@normaluser3978]

We know primitive technology never lies

[@zegobot9674]

@@forgivezharion6989 counter ratio + L bozo

[@kurosumomo]

And now that KZbin has taken dislikes away, it is even harder to spot fake channels. While this primitive building is not really all that detrimental to daily use, a lot of repair/restoration channels are fake, which might actually hurt some people, if they attempt to do or follow alongside the videos for their items that need repair/restoration.

[@TheJhtlag]

Most turtle rescue videos are fake. they glue barnacles on the poor turtle then pretend to rescue them by scraping them off again.

[@Tortilla.Reform]

The argument you make in the first sentence reminds me of how stupid it was for musk to get people to pay for verification 😂 His plan to get rid of bots is to give every bot the ability to pay 8bucks for more clout, then fire half of the staff and let the rest deal with the aftermath while working a worse crunch with less support

[@BestMods168]

Popularity does NOT equal credibility. Many thumbs down does not equal fake.

[@Droidsky17]

@BestMods168 thanks captain obvious, but the dislike is not even THERE ANYMORE. You no longer get to decide for yourself based on the info because it's gone.

[@digitaldazzle5836]

@@Tortilla.Reform Omg... You must be a leftist. Only they would be here commenting on the culture wars.

[@leti.s.6253]

I can’t believe anyone would actually believe only two people are doing all that work. The storyline and videos are part of the fun.

[@vhonanimulea3783]

Im watching this thinking the same thing like "Wait I thought it was obvious this isn't real, it's just entertainment."

[@Newbyte]

If it's so obvious that it's "just entertainment", maybe they shouldn't be lying about it?

[@DamienDarkside]

@@vhonanimulea3783 People legitimately believe it's real, a significant amount of them. It gets REAL Survival Channels hate because "if these two guys can do it, why does you hut in the snow that you legit spent time making SUCK SHIT?" Also if that's "part of the fun" then find other media to enjoy. At least in the WWE the results might be faked, but the skill of a dude hurling another dude above his head and onto the mat isn't. Everything you see is fake with these channels.

[@Hexen_Wulf]

I think part of the problem is that they have deliberately branded themselves as Primitive Technology. I myself have asked people if they've ever heard of Primitive Technology, hoping they've seen the videos done by John, and they go "Oh, those videos where they make pools?"

[@Funkteon]

As an Aussie, I can report though, that the OG guy from Australia is doing it in the tropical part of Queensland in the north of Australia, which is pretty much the only part of the continent with soil you can dig with hand tools... If he were to try this anywhere south or west of his current location, he would be up against soil that is harder than diamond...

[@Baggellyh]

I envy the climate and conditions being a Victorian

[@jinglemyberries866]

QUEENSLANDER

[@schoo9256]

Or try Perth, which is even more south and west from the areas you're talking about. It's just sand here.

[@spaghettiisyummy.3623]

Cairns??

[@stealthynaxo]

huh, thats an interesting fact.

[@airgunbubba2505]

John is the real deal. If you haven't checked out his book, I highly suggest it. My son and I try to get out into the woods and make a hut every fall to have a cool place to camp out in the winter. Being from WI, it gets damn cold in winter and John's in floor heating has been a major boon! Great video btw. It is always good to see people getting the credit they deserve for the accomplishments they achieved.

[@Ghost-cd5zm]

WI? what's a WI?

[@laurendilaurentis6467]

@@Ghost-cd5zm Wisconsin an american state

[@Ghost-cd5zm]

@@laurendilaurentis6467 ok thanks

[@DerpLvIAsian]

Primitive Life is also a legit channel with the same slow progress in several videos style content as Primitive Technology. if you ran out of his videos, give this one a look.

[@casanovasparks89]

Link to John's channel?

[@1TieDye1]

Primitive tech is the only one I trust implicitly. And all his things actually seem feasible compared to most others.. being the first also gives me a lot of trust. He didn't have motivation of going viral when he started, he just had a skill to share Another piece of damning evidence is the yields some of these guys get. Like, 'primitive skills' channel iron yield from ore looks like nearly 1:1 by volume and he will pull slag out of his furnace, hammer it for a while, cut the vid and suddenly has two large pieces or pure iron to work with.. no mention on how he gets iron out of slag or even the matter of slag period Lll

[@comforthZone]

I thought Mr Tfue was first

[@superspies32]

And also his iron is iron. It is impossible with his method because the iron will have a lot of C and like on newest video of Primitive Technology, it is cast iron and its shape is a mess due to different C contents on each area.

[@Sanquinity]

Chad Zuber is also legit. He's not about just building stuff, but actually surviving for days/months on end. Just like how PT's hobby is researching and building primitive stuff, CZ's hobby is survival without any modern tools. (And CZ's builds also actually look hand-made with nothing but what he finds around him.) It's the only 2 channels so far that I feel are completely legitimate.

[@Sanquinity]

@Bonka Yea that part was a bit of a miss by Sunny. Mixing gravel/rocks with the right type of soil, and adding water to make the soil seep in between the rocks, is an actual technique being used. It kind of works like how grass can give soil more resistance against erosion and crumbling.

[@EternalShadow1667]

@Bonka yeah true, bit of a miss by Sunny. He isn’t always right. On that note, the tactic of mixing clay with an aggregate is actually a very ancient type of “concrete”. It was mixed with grass. I can’t say much more with certainty, but I think it eventually led to the wattle and daube type construction used by the medieval period.

[@The_Pariah]

6:59 had me laughing my ass off. "Which, to their credit, contains no excavator tracks around it. One mistake they *did* make, however, was that they forgot to take the actual excavator out of the top right hand corner."