Halloween | Anatomy of a Franchise #1

[@JuanCarabajal]

When I was younger I literally believed both Halloween and Halloween 2 had been shot at the exact same time. I thought the original idea was to release a 3-hour movie but that they cut it in half at the last minute lol

[@calen4409]

Same

[@DippedInInk]

Now that’s the genius of consistency

[@JasonBeam7]

I used to think that too

[@jwebby85]

The argument could be made that Michael drove Loomis crazy. Much like Moby-Dick essentially drove Ahab mad.

[@LucyLioness100]

I think there could be an implication in the original film with the monologue delivered by Donald Pleasance. There is kind of an undertone of Ahab-Moby Dick though likely not intentional by Carpenter & Hill

[@camerongodsey9847]

I think 5, awful though it is, offers up an interesting idea when Tina critiques Loomis on filling Jamie’s head with stories about Michael. The implication being that he did the same thing to Michael since he only ever wanted to see the evil, and never the good.

[@fred_______]

I feel like they were both a little fucked up before hand but drove each other much crazier than they already were

[@tgriffin3059]

@@camerongodsey9847 In the first place, there's nothing 'awful' about 5...it's one of the best in the series. And in the second....just a year earlier, Michael Myers had nearly killed her, and DID kill a hefty percentage of Haddonfield. Surely she didn't need Loomis to influence her to dread the Bogeyman...And what did he 'do' to Michael? Michael came to him as a murderous 6 year old. The kid was a killer before he ever MET Loomis. Loomis is the hero of the franchise. He is the least ambiguous figure in the series. If he saw no humanity in Michael, it was because there was nothing there to SEE...

[@wolpertingera5829]

"Halloween 2" becomes really effectiv when you watch it the day before you have a shift at the hospital where you are all alone for 8-9 hours. Needless to say I still don't know WHY I thought it was a good idea to watch it but work was REALLY interesting the next day. Almost every single small noise made me jump and I was a paranoid mess at the end of my shift. There were also no patients because I worked in a more secluded part of the hospital in a laboratory. Did I also mention that Michael Myers is the only horror movie monster that really scares me to this day? Yeah...not a good combo and certainly not one of my best ideas.

[@justafanofnerdculture7602]

Whenever I'm in a hospital, I think of Halloween ll.

[@TravioliRavioli]

Jeez you’re dramatic, just take a rest in your Hospital breakroom whirlpool! 😂

[@Xehanort10]

19:38 To be fair since Loomis had known Michael since 1963 he'd been dealing with him for 26 years by the time of 5. That'd drive anyone crazy.

[@justafanofnerdculture7602]

I agree

[@tgriffin3059]

Loomis was never remotely crazy. In 5, he's depicted as more forceful and intense. He had tried the kindly grandfather bit in 4...offhand I don't think he was satisfied with the results.

[@ELPMCFlashFrame]

I'd just like to point out, that "hot tub" scene in Halloween 2, isn't that there's a hottub in the break area of the hospital, it's actually used for Physical and Physio therapy, and is a legit tool in the medical field. I just felt this was a good thing to clear up, also, congrats on 1k views on this vid.

[@Flerg3]

This is mentioned in the film when Bud asks Karen to accompany him to the therapy room. His finger needed some therapy.

[@franksemyon5855]

What idiot could not already know that?

[@plasticweapon]

@@franksemyon5855 i'm not impressed with this kid. i've seen a couple of his videos and he's another pseudo intellectual millennial who got just enough of an education to not know what he's talking about.

[@luxnoctis1312]

@@franksemyon5855 I didnt know that, Fairly I'm 14, But i don't believe its common knowledge. No need to be rude.

[@dhndz4912]

Lux Noctis Wow. You at 14 have more decency than Frank Semenface over here... Keep it up, the world could use more people like you.

[@redwillow79schippers94]

Loomis is easily one of my favorite horror movie characters ever. He does get crazier through the films but it makes sense. He is obsessed with Myers and lets him take over his life. I love how crazy he is.

[@dommoore6180]

@@wordyword.298 hahaha, never thought of that before - wouldn't that make him more hated than Myers by the locals?

[@dommoore6180]

Wordy word. Disagree - why end it totally. New titles don’t change old ones so you don’t lose anything you just gain. That said yeah I know he wouldn’t have considered it and clearly I guess neither would I. Loomis is a great character and I think far more iconic and interesting than Laurie but something tells me the modern fan base and film makers disagree.

[@dommoore6180]

Wordy word. Oh yeah for sure. Not excusing necessarily but I just take that as the heightened world of fiction and move on. Especially with characters who have numerous incarnations and numerous “deaths”.

[@stevenfraser81]

Thank you for pointing out the excellent lunch scene in H20, were Laurie/Keri drains her glass of wine, then reorders one, drinks it down to the previous ones level - all before her beau comes back from the bathroom. As someone who has struggled with alcoholism, this is a very meaningful and identifiable scene (and something I used to do at social occasions), and little scenes like that are what makes H20 shine, for me.

[@sanctus9146]

Hey so you do know that michael gets shot half a dozen times in the FIRST movie too, falls 2 stories, and just gets up no problem. He was always supernatural, and even carpenter acknowledged this.

[@sanctus9146]

@@MBG.426 Joshua Mattel well to be exact one of his quotes was "he is almost a supernatural force - a force of nature". So youre not wrong, my point was just that what this video was implying about michael being JUST some guy was innaccurate

[@lordraiden8632]

Myers isn't supernatural in H1 and H2. He is human and dies in the fire at the end, Carpenter intended him to die in the fire, by burning him to death like that he was showing everyone that yes he is human and can be killed. A very strong and determined human but a human nonetheless. Ppl tend to think Myers surviving the damage he does and the samhain writing on the school wall means there are supernatural elements in the movie but there isnt and it's obvious that Myers wrote that because he's insane and believes himself to be some supernatural force of Halloween but in reality he's just a human. Carpenter meant for him to appear in ways that were mysterious and would cause ppl to think hes supernatural but he knew himself that he wasn't supernatural and finally shows us this via Myers burning to death at the end of H2

[@brandonpage7087]

Sanctus9, correct. Myers was never meant to be a normal man. He was always meant to be a supernatural force of evil. So, no, he does not become supernatural, in part 2. Unlike Jason, he never becomes a zombie, & is instead a man, who has supernatural abilities to survive things that would kill normal people. That is what he is in the first movie, & that theme is never abandoned, throughout the entire series.

[@Xehanort10]

25:01 According to Jamie Lee Laurie in H20 was supposed to be more like she was in the 2018 film with her life completely ruined by what Michael did to her but the writer Kevin Williamson who also wrote Scream thought Laurie should have more to lose which is probably why the John Tate son character was created and why Laurie became a private school headmistress.

[@CH0SEN_0NE]

Dick Warlock is the stuntman/Myers actor who was gifted the original Myers mask NOT George Wilbur.

[@yashamaga13]

Glad someone noticed this

[@SonCarlosH]

I was about to type that lol. Still though great video.

[@ferox965]

From what I read, Warlock sold the original mask and his outfit to a private collector for a tidy sum.

[@Blackheartgamer1]

Honestly i greatly enjoyed 4 & 5 mostly because of the little girl. Her acting was on point and i was rooting for her throughout.

[@Xehanort10]

9:23 Exactly. Michael being a pure evil force who'll kill anyone, has no particular target, doesn't care who he kills as long as he kills someone and only his own death will stop him is better than the "He only kills his family and people in the way of him killing them" character he was retconned into from II to Resurrection. So I'm glad the 2018 film brought Michael back to how he was in the original. Laurie being a random girl Michael saw drop a key off at the Myers house and him deciding to stalk and kill her and her friends for reasons known only to him is creepier than the "She's his other sister and he wants to kill her because of that" bullshit.

[@wfjhDUI]

Leaving his motives ambiguous works for a single movie but would then start to raise questions about why he's going to such great lengths to pursue a specific person.

[@Xehanort10]

@@wfjhDUI He's not after Laurie in the 2018 film though. He just broke out to kill again in general and only goes after Laurie and her family after Sartain drives him near her house. If Hawkins, Allyson and Sartain hadn't seen Michael walking down the road he'd have wandered around looking for someone else to kill.

[@smurfadoodlethewise4584]

That definitely works, but then again, having him just be a murder hobo of DnD fame doesn't make for a particularly meaningful antagonist. His character is scary because of its blank nature, sure, but you've eventually gotta give him SOME character to keep people hooked. Even if it's hard to spot.

[@Xehanort10]

@@smurfadoodlethewise4584 Funnily enough a murder hobo was exactly what Rob Zombie's remake version of Michael was. Remake Michael had a generic cliche "abused as a child and bullied at school" backstory and his big motivation was to kidnap Laurie and force her to live with him in an old shack he was hiding in.

[@smurfadoodlethewise4584]

@@Xehanort10 Funny how people didn't like that one as much as the original Michael, eh?

[@kurtdrayton5065]

Are we ever going to get anymore franchise retrospectives? There’s still so many. Scream. Saw. Of course, Elm Street and Friday. I just found this channel and thoroughly enjoyed the long commentary and examination of these franchises. This will be my third time watching this one.

[@markclincy4353]

I agree with you. Besides those that were mentioned there are the living dead series , I Spit on your Grave and others.

[@lainlane]

Ikr.

[@calmarsh9363]

Friday was good, Next Friday wasn't and we needn't mention the third. There's one done.

[@jaxsonjarvis7543]

@@calmarsh9363 F....Friday the 13th? 4 is generally regarded as the best and there's still 7 after that.

[@calmarsh9363]

@@jaxsonjarvis7543 jokes gone over your head chuck.

[@kevinthomas4239]

Neo Western Noir just might be my new favorite genre.

[@InPraiseofShadows]

Kevin Thomas dude I love stuff like that too, the aesthetic of stuff like No Country for Old Men is always a favorite for me man

[@wolfthornnholtzklau4913]

@@InPraiseofShadows you ever seen The Way of the Gun? It definitely falls in that category. It owes a lot to Sam Peckinpah. One of my favorite films.

[@ZekeThePlumber86]

Halloween 3 is such a gem! I would love to see how the original anthology idea would've played out.

[@SuperMelrose1]

I actually loved H20 too, but wish the mask was better.

[@diedfamous]

A alternate title for your series could be “Autopsy of a Franchise.’ Excellent stuff.

[@FantasmaNaranja]

i mean an autopsy is only performed on dead things, seeing as "halloween" had a reboot rather recently it'd be kinda negative to call it an autopsy

[@thetribalist6923]

Diedfamous I love this name.

[@diedfamous]

FantasmaNaranja you’re telling me you don’t believe in the living dead?

[@sg7335]

It’s funny that people thought Michael Meyers was in Halloween 3.I was in grade school when it came out and from the trailer shown on tv,I realized it was a new story,with just the Halloween name attached.Michael wasn’t shown or even mentioned.I actually like Season of the Witch.At least it was trying to do something different.

[@franksemyon5855]

Halloween III is fuckin awesome.

[@wolfthornnholtzklau4913]

Agreed its my favorite

[@victorangel2383]

micheal is shown on the tv someone cant remember who but they watching halloween

[@Slasherhorror1980]

People are dumb, what can I say.

[@thomasffrench3639]

Yeah, I think many people went into the movie knowing that. But remember, not everyone saw the advertisements.

[@QuetzalOvejasElectricas]

What a treat! And I haven't watched anything asides from the original.

[@InPraiseofShadows]

Thanks! I would really recommend checking out 3 or H20 or the new one, all three are the next best I think, glad you liked the video!

[@gameroftheyear1000]

In Praise of Shadows not too keen on the original H2?

[@saitouhajime3]

@@gameroftheyear1000 I mean, I think The Shape is scarier when you can't see his eyes and he doesn't to have a motive.

[@gameroftheyear1000]

@@saitouhajime3 no but this series has way more sequels to hate than H2. It’s a decent companion piece to the first. It works with or without the first and vice versa.

[@JonManArmy]

@The Mute Dwarf The first was definitely a lot better than everyone says but god damn the second is bad. I've watched every Halloween high af and Halloween 6, Resurrection, and Rob Zombies Halloween 2 are the only ones that I did not understand a single fuck nugget of what was going on.

[@Nightman221k]

Great video, it actually kind of changed my thoughts on Halloween a little since Halloween is a franchise that I felt kind of benign over. I like 1, 2, and H20 as far as the Michael Myers films go and even then they're not my go-to horror flicks (that'd be Nightmare on Elm Street or Child's Play because even when they have bad movies something stands out) and people think I'm crazy but I prefer Halloween III Season of the Witch. I was glad you covered that one with a open-minded take on it since, in my eyes, it captures the dark and spooky roots of the Halloween holiday better than just about any other movie has.

[@InPraiseofShadows]

Oh yeah for sure! Honestly Halloween 3 is a movie that I revisit pretty frequently, that moment where the kids are walking at dusk on the hill is one of my favorites in any horror film ever. It’s a pretty much perfect shot to match the feeling of that holiday.

[@raynwolfsbane2084]

FINALLY someone else who enjoyed the hell out of Tyler Mane's version of Michael Myers.

[@InPraiseofShadows]

Oh yeah, I’m not super huge on a lot of what they did on those two movies, but I love him as Myers. He’s just so huge that he is the scariest version for me by a long shot. I would be fine if he had played him in the new film too honestly.

[@Njbear7453]

Nice avatar

[@KenzieMcV]

Man you have improved so much, so fast. This is amazing.

[@InPraiseofShadows]

Thanks, that means a lot to me!

[@thebrothersdude]

Maaaan! how many hours did this take you? seems really in depth, I've just started though! what a good end of week treat! :p

[@InPraiseofShadows]

The Brothers Dude I hope you like it! It honestly probably took like 50 hours maybe? With watching the movies, researching, writing, and editing? I kind of lost count, but pretty much all my time for the past two weeks went to it haha it was a huge undertaking but I think it was worth it, I have wanted to do a big video for a while now and thought this was the best option for that you know?

[@thebrothersdude]

Incredible man and it shows, there's no filler it's all great information! As somebody that enjoys horror but doesn't know a lot about the history this is awesome. Absolutely and great timing too!

[@InPraiseofShadows]

The Brothers Dude thanks man glad you enjoyed it! I hope to do some more of these longer ones soon, I’ve got an idea for one I may do in the next month!

[@macabreenterprise1823]

What’s the generic 80s techno that plays throughout the video? I really like it

[@moopey123]

Look up synthwave

[@fadedviews]

I know one of the songs is Blue Monday by new order

[@dabearslive9605]

Macabre Enterprise for the first 1:22 of the video, its the ending theme in H2018 when the credits roll.

[@hotpopcorncake]

Then look up dark synth artist like carpenter brut

[@hotpopcorncake]

Also look up delia derbyshire and so on.

[@leshape192]

Actually, The hero mask from the first and second film and the coveralls in the second were kept by Dick Warlock, who played Myers in the second film. The hero mask is now in the hands of a private collector.

[@plasticweapon]

hero mask...? yeah, i guess it is.

[@leshape192]

plasticweapon Hero is the term used for main props with the highest detail and is essentially the main prop. The stunt masks are different, as they have less quality then the hero, and are used for either far away shots, or during scenes involving stunts.

[@erikbishop7]

I will say that what I get out of Halloween II is the idea that from the night before Halloween 1963 onward, Michael Myers’ evil gradually escalated into a full fruition.

[@theboogeymaniscoming54]

Finally some love for H20

[@InPraiseofShadows]

Yeah! I really really dig that movie a lot, in some ways more than Halloween 2018. It is a surprisingly solid entry I think.

[@franksemyon5855]

It has a better ending than H2018 by far. I rank 2018, H20, and especially Resurrection at the very bottom

[@trisha2214]

Wdym? Everyone loves water

[@bennyhoward1391]

Me: Hopefully Jason Blum and David Gordon Green don’t rush a sequel Into production. *Blumhouse announces Two sequels releasing within a year of each other. Me:......Goddamit

[@SinSynn]

Halloween is one of those movies that I watched on cable when my parents weren't around when I was just a kid. I was definitely too young and, like Jaws, it messed my little mind up. To this day, I won't swim in the ocean because of Jaws, and Halloween gave me a love of slasher flics and a weird fear when I'm home alone at night and the wind is howling outside. I turn ALL the lights on. I've been laid up sick this past week, and watching vids from this channel. I'm really digging it. From the witches trilogy to Giallo, man - this channel covers it. Great stuff, and I look forward to the inevitable growth and success. Keep up the killer work.

[@tylorjames5305]

What a fantastic overview! I was glad to see Halloween III: Season of the Witch so favorably reviewed, as despite its critical failure, it remains my favorite sequel of the franchise. I was initially put-off while watching the opening of the latest Halloween, as I thought the acting was downright silly. But the film got a whole lot better, and I indeed enjoyed it. Jamie Lee Curtis, especially, was a joy to watch. It will be interesting to see in what direction(s) this franchise will go in the oncoming decade. I don't have immensely high hopes, but I remain curious and receptive to the future creative visions.

[@B33FY2011]

This is an absolutely brilliant review/retrospective of my favourite horror franchise of all time. Great information and personal issues with certain entries in the series, as well as very, very entertaining to watch. You've definitely 100% got my subscription.

[@BrendanTakash]

I've watched nearly all of our Anatomy videos now, and I have to commend you for your work. Thank you for all the insight you share! The 3rd film is so often maligned, and it's refreshing to hear you share your appreciation, which I share. "Halloween 4" is ultimately my favorite sequel though. Imagine if they waited 10 years, and didn't release 2 or 3; this would have been considered a stellar follow up. Still a crowd pleaser to this day. Keep up the good work!

[@justafanofnerdculture7602]

Danielle Harris didn't return in the Rob Zombie Halloween movies as a "new" character. Annie was already established in the original Halloween.

[@themykeshow9027]

I gotta say, I totally, wholly, completely disagree with you about Rob Zombie's Halloween & (RZ's) Halloween 2. If you view them as being wholly seperate entries from the rest of the franchise, and watch them with the mental framing of grindhouse flicks that happen to have "Halloween" as the thread that loosely ties things together, these films are actually outstanding. I feel that these films were successful because they offered an experience that was totally different than simply re-living the experience of the original, and they delivered. Zombie was in a unique situation, because in order for his films to be framed properly, the "canon" and events from the rest of the franchise need to be set aside totally. Because of Halloween 3 and the mountain of overwhelming retcons and adjustments that had been made to the main franchise, Zombie hoped that the "weight" of these previous experiences would not weigh too badly upon people watching his interpretation/reinvention. Unfortunately, due to the massive popularity of the franchise and the fact that Zombie chose to appropriate the Title of the source material, his movies will always be compared (unfavorably) to the originals by fans of the franchise, and by moviegoers expecting to re-experience the style of horror delivered by the first film. For me, RZ's Halloween films rank 2 and 3, behind only the first film when weighted with the rest of the establshed franchise. In my own personal view however, these films rank 1 and 2 in a wholly seperate franchise thats only comprised (jokingly) of these two films. Of all the reboots hollywood has cranked out in the last decade, I believe RZ's Halloween, and 21 Jump Street are the only reboots that managed to escape their source material successfully enough to become independently meritorious. I loved Rob Zombie's Halloween films. They deserve more credit. Not because of "subtle qualities" or "depth of canon" - No. These films deserve more credit because they *actually are* completely different and *masterfully constructed* visions of events and characters from a totally different place and time. Like Boz Lhurman's "Romeo and Juliet", Rob Zombie is telling the same story, but nothing is actually the same. Thanks.

[@Warlanda]

I love "Season of the Witch", also! the jingle will stick in a person's head for weeks...maybe years. the original "Halloween" was brilliant, but I quickly lost interest with the slasher genre soon after it began. those particular movies seem to follow the Stephen King formula (poor paraphrase coming up), "If you can't achieve horror, go for the gross out." perhaps having a background in emergency medicine as Nursing makes me less willing to see accurate portrayals of suffering. as a former corrections officer, I've had to deal with people who did unspeakable things and yet remember that they were still human. I am really enjoying your channel and the dedication you put into your analyses; thank you!

[@user-jn1wm3tb8v]

@@JS-rk8dl it was in the video.

[@irishjoe2941]

Warlanda I honestly liked the idea of Halloween being like an anthology of different Horror films as a Franchise even though I’m huge Michael Myers fan.

[@Warlanda]

@@irishjoe2941 I think it could have worked, but the studios were more concerned about profit than story. "Creepshow" had some good stories and there are several British movies from the 70's that featured vignettes that were good.

[@thomasffrench3639]

Slasher movies aren’t for everyone. Some people want the visceral scares as opposed the psychological ones. Nothing inherently wrong with either.

[@camerondodge2070]

That's it, I'm subscribing to you. You deliver on the type of content I love to see, stuff that makes you think and want to get about discussing things, plus you share my opinion on Halloween 3. Also, have you seen the producer's cut of Halloween 6? It tones down on the weird editing and flashing lights, contains more information about the cult, has more of Donald Pleasence in it, and tries to create some suspense (even if it does throw all pretense away about halfway through act two). It still has it's share of blunders though, including that Michael is also the baby's father. Tommy sets down a circle of runes to stop Michael, Michael steps into the circle, and he just lies down, no effects or anything. Loomis tries to make sure Michael's dead, but finds Dr. Wynn under the mask instead. Michael is revealed to escape in Wynn's clothes, Wynn passes the curse of thorn onto Loomis somehow, and Loomis starts screaming more insanely than at the end of 4. It's weird, but still somehow better than the theatrical cut.

[@frankwilson681]

ready for Halloween Kills early fall 2020 & Halloween Ends 2021 can't wait for them both miss the horror/slasher genre

[@donovandelaney3171]

The backstory of Laurie's daughter was pretty funny. She's a lier! She had a great childhood.

[@nickwheeler5396]

I seriously thought that Michael in part 4 should have kept the bandages instead of that terrible mask. The bandages were much creepier

[@uchihaedgelord5589]

Looking at this, another reason why I love Green's Halloween it's because of how it takes a lot of inspiration from the best of even he lesser entries. It's a love letter to the fans, it might be ignoring the movies for the sake of the story and character rerailment of Michael Myers, but still shows love towards what the fans liked about these films for all its flaws-it is not only a sequel, but a celebration to the series.

[@KiwiBeeArt]

How are your videos not more popular, all your videos are well researched, well scripted, well edited, and you show how much you truely care about the subjects in the videos

[@issameaimee8906]

Love these!! Your editing is amazing and such a clear voice over!! Im starting my binge on your videos!! 💚

[@sarcinelli86]

Interesting how most of the gripes with parts IV and V in this video are present on Halloween Kills. So much for discarding the sequels for us to end basically on the same spot again. Can you imagine if David Gordon Green brings back the cult in Halloween Ends?!

[@nerdfatha]

Good video! Its great to see a venerable franchise stand up after each fall. Honestly, its track record of 30% of its films being any good is far better than most long running horror franchises, if not all of them.

[@billyrattlesticks6949]

Season of the witch is one of my favourite Halloween themed movies of all time, so many people slagged off this film for years and it's only in recent times that it has started to get the love it deserves. It's atmospheric as hell, it's mean spirited and it's just a brilliant Halloween film. I wish someone would try and re imagine the vision Carpenter had with doing a different type of horror movie every Halloween, that would be awesome, like a set of full feature length anthology movies.

[@cassandraprophet4279]

As someone from the north east and who has been in Illinois in October, I was SHOCKED when you said Halloween I really felt like it was happening in fall... Then I remembered you are from West Virginia and live in NC. Hahaha. I really enjoyed this video, thanks.

[@Mondomeyer]

Michael was supernatural from the beginning; he gets stabbed, shot and falls from incredible heights without damage. He was never not supernatural.

[@mrkipling2201]

I love the 3rd film as well. I liked the fact that we didn’t get just another Michael Myers film. A lot of it is atmospheric as well, not just out and out gore.

[@wolfthornnholtzklau4913]

Haven't watched yet just wanted to say that I love Halloween III: Season if the Witch the best. Edit: I'm super happy that you love Season of the Witch as much as I do!

[@kristophergarcia199]

Super subscribed to your channel, as a horror enthusiast I love your content. Your video about horror book covers sold me. I love your in depth analysis and how it's opinionated in your own personal words and experience. Going back to your horror book covers, I would love to see a similar fashion for VHS horror cover art aesthetic. I also collect vhs horror and there is something about watching an old VHS horror video on a CRTtv that gives it the griddiness and spookems feel. My early introduction to horror was walking down the aisle of my local VHS rental store and gazing at all the awesome looking covers. Keep it up!

[@InPraiseofShadows]

Thanks!

[@JS-rk8dl]

Hey In Praise in Shadows Great Video I Love The Halloween (franchise)

[@SuperCuttyBlackSow]

I don’t think Halloween 2 gets enough credit I love the version of the theme and the hospital at night setting.

[@Yungbeck]

I had a marathon a couple of years ago, so this is really interesting to see! I might just rewatch them all again after this video! Great effort and production, sir!

[@spooky7010]

10/10 deserves more views

[@hdna12]

The John Carpenter Years were the BEST I really wish they’ve would’ve continued the series the way John and Debra wanted to do it.

[@franksemyon5855]

Rob Zombie did something very interesting especially with RZs H2. I actually like the Thorn trilogy as well as the RZ films and H6 and H3 the most aside from the original.

[@Ezralibrascale]

Glad they didn’t. Michael Myers is Halloween

[@AaronAlert77]

@@franksemyon5855 H6 is awful man. The thorn could have been such a great concept but they ruined it and executed it terribly. Also shit on Jamie’s and Loomis character. Also Myers bleeding green. Wtf dude

[@misslaura199]

17:23 Actually it was Dick Warlock the stuntman who portrayed Michael in H2 who received them, it also wasn't gifted to him, Dick asked Debra if he could keep it and she said yes because they won't be making another movie about Michael so he took the mask, the overalls, scalpel and a few other things which he later donated to a museum I think

[@raymondcara8034]

I enjoyed this video as i do all of yours (i just saw this one now), but i thought this was worth pointing out as you are usually quite thorough. I've loved this whole franchise since i was a kid, and I also would say H3 season of the witch is among the best (i would rank it #2 just after the original on principle). It may even be one of my fav 80's horror titles. You mentioned how it includes witchcraft and violence towards children, but it really is much deeper than that. Colonel Cochran has essentially organized a MASS sacrifice to his 'old gods' via every single child wearing one of those masks. Which is super dark and implies thousands maybe millions of potentially dead children. He also uses TV and marketing (the commercial) as his means to accomplish it. Which is a great commentary as TV sets were starting to become more commonplace in every household in the early 80's and TV aimed at kids as well. We can assume he started his entire Silver Shamrock toy empire planning for this moment. I thought that was worth noting and is definitely what makes the film so great and outlandish. I literally get goosebumps every time during that last shot of the film as Tom Atkins goes full circle becoming the crazy man in the first shot, desperately screaming into the camera while the pulsating score by Carpenter & Howarth comes back ..."STOP ITTTTTTTTT" .. of course we never get to see if it does indeed stop the last commercial.... just pure gold. Oh and i would also agree that H20 is a solid film, but they indeed do something wrong which is having about 8 different masks and the end result being one of the goofiest and worst looking attempts at Myers. You can see his eyes in half the shots. Its bad. I actually quite like H6 curse of Michael Myers probably even moreso than H20 but that's purely a nostalgia thing

[@earthwingbomber]

I already liked Halloween 2, but all the background info about behind the scenes struggles make me respect it even more that it came out as good as it did.

[@revkun]

I know a lot of people don’t like the rob zombie remake but I enjoy it a lot for what it does. It takes the story and ask “what if we knew everything about the shape?” I think it’s interesting to see. And I love the mask and how it has rot all over it giving it that look of something that has decayed over years just like Myers himself. I can see how people hate it but I personally will always find in enjoyable

[@simonbarnett8668]

Glad I've found and subbed to your channel. Enjoying going through your back catalogue. I must say I think you are the only other person besides myself who I've heard declare Halloween 3 is their favourite!

[@McNoat]

28:09 "Someone gets killed with a camera stand that for some inexplicable reason has blades at the end of it." Have you ever seen Peeping Tom? I haven't seen Halloween: Resurrection, but my guess that this is an homage to that classic Michael Powell film.

[@thefilmeffect6089]

It’s always one step forward and two steps back with this franchise. The sequels to the 2018 film are a hot mess.

[@thatzerogirl]

I've been subscribed for a while now and finally, FINALLY, i am getting around to binge watching this whole channel and I am VERY happy with what you're doing and what you've done here! I was also extremely hype for 2018!Halloween and 2018!Suspiria, and I saw both on dates with my girlfriend at the time. They were both great movies! (and both dates are ones I remember fondly)

[@Pinkranger87]

If they didn't call it Halloween 3 just Halloween Season of witch it would've probably worked, But i did like the fact they kinda made masks cannon

[@courtneyscott7931]

Halloween 3 is the only one Michael Myers isn't in!!!!

[@aspiringjoker2883]

I think James Jude Courtney, our current Michael, is the best take on Michael yet. Going full method, and learning from really hitmen how a professional killer is supposed to move. He also did not exchange words with Jamie Lee Curtis throughout production, to enable her to fully see him as Michael. Halloween kills was pretty good as well, I think, but not as good as the 2018 sequel. The well executed flashbacks were especially good, and Michael gets to really wreck shop with what may be his highest body count yet, as well as some of his most brutal kills.

[@SimianJack]

Highly entertaining video, though I have to disagree with many of your opinions on the individual films. You haven't done many of these franchise dissections, I'd be interested to see one on the Phantasm series (my favorite franchise) but only if you have the same kind of passion for those films that you clearly do for Halloween. It's your enthusiasm that makes this so watchable. I used to enjoy Rosenthal'sv Halloween II more than I do now, but never thought it was a good film, anywhere on a par with the original. It didn't take many years before its many flaws overwhelmed what little good I could find in it, and these days it takes mental gymnastics to rediscover anything I formerly enjoyed in it. Some of that is down to the script, but I think there's a singular lack of finesse in the direction...and given Resurrection, Rosenthal's opinions on II sound suspect to me. The sister subplot was a misstep that detracts from Michael's mystique...but I can't agree that he was not already a supernatural figure in the first film. I've had this argument with someone else, and it comes down to each of us finding different things to be frightening - each of us having different buttons to push. Micheal being a force of nature personified in a human shell pushes mine. The idea of him as a normal psychotic is tedious beyond words. It's one of the many things wrong with Part 5: the insistence on Michael having anger issues. Loomis wasn't the only mischaracterization in that one I love Season of the Witch but it's not without problems. I don't know if the broad stereotyping was intentional, given the plot revolves around a toymaker, but they introduce a note of insincerity that detracts from the realism and is at times crass. I hate the Kupfer family, they're intolerable (which also serves to undercut the tragedy when you're rooting for them all to die horribly. Maybe that's part of the movie's sense of humor? It's not mine. OTOH, what draws me back to it every October is that it's the only film in the franchise after the original that feels as if Carpenter himself directed it, from the cinematography to the editing. I also love the imagination at work in the premise. Nope, not feeling that AT ALL with H2. I've got mixed feelings about Curse of MM...tons of problems, not very good, but I like some things about it and like it better than 5. 5 had its upsides, but not many of them. When people complain that the Curse of Thorn "crap" reduced Myers, I always say that it didn't do any more damage on that score than the sister subplot did in H2. In any case, I'll only watch the Producer's Cut, never wanna see the theatrical edit again. H20 was criticized at the time for being too Kevin Williamsy, and I have to admit I felt that too, which is probably unfair. I like the movie and praise it for all the things you pointed out...yet I don't love it. It's...I dunno, Halloween Lite. I'm not able to put my finger on what it's missing. RZ's H2 - I'm gonna come right out with it, I think it's better than his remake of the original and better than Rosenthal's H2. You're spot on about Halloween, it's interesting but clumsy and overbearing. For all Zombie says he didn't even want to make the sequel, I think it comes closer to whatever he was after with the first movie. Loomis and Laurie are all too human, and both have been warped by their experience with Michael in different ways. The portrayal of a traumatized Laurie failing to deal with her issues isn't sugarcoated, which fits exactly Zombie's worldview, and I found her to be deeply moving and tragic. the movie is emotionally brutal, no one gets out alive or undamaged, but unlike the RZ efforts that preceded it (and I'm a huge fan of Devil's Rejects), H2 clearly empathizes with and mourns for its characters. I also have to praise the hospital fakeout - where with most movies the dream fakeout is disappointing and lazy, here it's a brilliant way for Zombie to give audiences a taste for the original that they wanted while at the same time stating in the clearest, most unequivocal way, "This is NOT a remake of Halloween II. That idea dies right here. This is my own movie entirely, my sequel." I'm eager to see where the trilogy goes that began with the 2018 film. Silly twist aside, I loved that one too.

[@sneakyskunk1]

For me, Halloween as a franchise ended with H2O. I did like SEASON OF THE WITCH because it brought something new to the table. I also wish TRICK 'r TREAT was more widely known. This was a great video, thanks for the look back!

[@nathanielbacon2661]

Really great job! I have some different opinions on the series. I think Season Of The Witch deserves the disrespect it got due to atrocious plotting, bad pacing and a total lack of scares. And I really, really love part 4. But I respect a different opinion and you did a fantastic job connecting a very complex and challenging story.

[@austins.2495]

Poor John Carpenter didn’t even want to do one sequel, but was forced to so he killed off Michael and doctor Loomis to end things. Then it just keeps going and more and more movies are made, with worse results. Greed is bad

[@deadpuppetsociety]

The Halloween franchise was one of my quarantine binges, and I agree that the 3rd is my favorite. I wish they would've rebranded and continued with the anthology idea.

[@roryscott462]

I feel like your analysis of Rob Zombie's H2 is missing some key points that for me made the film one of the strongest in the series. 1, Micheal's murder of the EMT drivers and his first on screen vision of his mother and her white horse is not contextually part of Laruie's dream. Her dream starts with her experience in the hospital. Several references are made to that opening scene throughout the movie. "no body was recovered from the ambulance crash," ect... Once such reference actually sparked Loomis' violent outburst during his lecture that you focused so heavily on. 2, The jarring shift in personality of Laurie and Loomis are justifiably explained by personality disorders triggered by PTSD. PTSD is the underlying theme in H2, and explains virtually everything about the film. The trajectory of each characters evolution from the first film to the second is completely believable for anyone who has experience with the disorder. Is Laurie as put together as Curtis's adult portrayals of the character in h20 and 2018? No, but she's also still a teenager. A child who watched an evil giant murder her parents and friends before she blew his brains out. Then she finds out the dude is her bio brother, her parents weren really her parents, and her boogyman killed her real family too. Can you blame her for being a dick? PTSD has ruined Annie's life, and has heavily affected her father as well. Even Micheal's white horse visions are often triggered by stressful situations. He sees the one constant source of love in his life to guide him. PTSD. This concept is actually the driving force of Laurie's character in the 2018 film, and is one of the many examples of how the film steals concepts from Rob Zombie's movies. 3, The dream sequence was meant to subvert expectations for what the film was going to be. And it did so successfully. It's the only film in the entire series that chooses to break the mold of the original film entirely and instead follow a more chaotic and dare I say realistic unfolding of events. The most brilliant thing about it is that it gave him enough footage to use in trailers to make people think it was going to be Rob Zombie's remake of the original Halloween 2 instead of his sequel to his remake. But also, it serves as a transition from what the first film was to what the second film would be. The very same things you praised Season of the Witch for doing at the beginning of that film, you're beating up Rob Zombie for here.

[@boynamedalexxx]

Also, in regards to RZ’s ‘Halloween II’-it’s important to acknowledge all the behind the scenes chaos caused by the Weinstein’s (once again making promises they knew they would break), the fact that RZ had originally wanted to do ‘Halloween’ as a two-parter, and then finish with a final chapter (he initially had a 3-picture deal), and that multiple days of principal photography were cut at the last minute. Oh, and then the Weinstein bros. decided to bump the film up to August, as opposed to October, as originally agreed upon.

[@khaymenbrock645]

average rob zombie fan

[@bongchoof]

i prefer Halloween 1,2 and H20 as a story arc as opposed to Halloween 1 and Halloween 2018.

[@brandonpage7087]

I enjoyed Halloween 2018, too, but there are many problems with it, that weren't touched upon in this video, unfortunately. The main problem, in my opinion, being the feminism theme, with all the male characters being completely useless.

[@christiella8233]

Brandon Page but that’s a central theme in literally every Halloween movie, this franchise pioneered the entire final girl trope, I don’t understand the issue

[@uchihaedgelord5589]

@@brandonpage7087 Oh, yeah, because the franchise that pioonered the final girl trope has female leads being more important than male leads. Shocker I know? Hell, Halloween H20 has the same """"flaw""""" (if you really call it that because I think it's just a massive ass cope out), with John and Will being completely fucking useless and borderline unlikeable, John spending most of his screentime complaining and underplaying the whole mythology of Michael Myers and then being stabbed in the leg and having to be carried by Molly all the way through then dissapearing from the film and series altogether, Will barely feeling like a character with his development coming as an afterthought on a extended TV cut only, while Laurie is the only person capable of beating the ever loving SHIT outta Michael Myers without any mayor issues. Hell, I'd argue Halloween 2018 is less than that because Myers is actually portrayed as being competent and actually being a force to be reckon with, almost killing Laurie before their final showdown properly begins.

[@uchihaedgelord5589]

Also, did you completely forgot about Hawkins? He literally almost kills MIchael Myers on his _own_ seems to be the most competent character besides Laurie until he's killed from a surprise attack by Sartain and smarter than most of the characters in the film and series as a whole.

[@AmericanParanormal1313]

I grew up watching Halloween 3 and 2 on TV. I always thought that Michael Myers was crazy because he was wearing a Silver Shamrock mask! LOL Season Of The Witch is also my favorite out of all of them.

[@hectorserna7950]

Amazing video! I’m a huge fan of the franchise and this is probably the best piece on the films I’ve ever seen. Bravo!

[@moo_robin]

I'm happy to see this, being a big fan of the franchise, a couple weeks before the 13th movie comes out

[@1marilynable]

This is probably my favorite video on this channel

[@LuxBellator92]

Really awesome analysis of this whole series, loved it!

[@deshawncorley4123]

Gotta say found this channel and have been binge watching videos ever since. Keep up the excellent content

[@DrDespicable]

Very thoughtful, insightful, and articulate - really splendid! We don't agree on all points, mind you, but those points usually come down to personal taste. You're doing outstanding work, not just with this, but your entire channel. I'm delighted to be a subscriber and look forward to more of your posts!

[@historyofnetworktv]

I think Part 4 is really good. I've seen it three times, and I think it is the true sendoff for the first two Halloween movies, as it takes place in Haddonfield 10 years after the original attack. Part 5 and 6 are so bad though, that we group them all together as terrible.

[@zoey__m]

Halloween 4 was quite weak (not bad), but the scene were little Jamie ends up killing her step-mother and stands on the top of the stairs, scissors in hand, with Dr Loomis' screams in the background, is for me one of the scariest, most shocking scenes in horror films, as well as a great plot twist and this comes from someone who doesn't get scared with slashers at all!

[@pdzombie1906]

Great retrospective!!! I've always had mix feelings about the franchise, but the video makes me apprecciate it more despite never being able to make a succesful sequel. Thanx!!!

[@crod9905]

At first, I wasn't going to watch because of the time length. But I'm so glad I did! A very interesting and informative video on a franchise I just got into!

[@InPraiseofShadows]

Thanks for giving it shot! I was really worried that no one would watch this because it is so long, and I almost split it up into two parts, but then decided to leave it as one. So thanks for watching it through to the end, I'm glad it was worth it to you!

[@billbruck433]

Great video bro. I agree with almost all your analysis except for your feelings on Tyler Mane. Great job

[@InPraiseofShadows]

Thank you man, glad you liked it!

[@SGustafsson]

Omg it happened again. The sequal to 2018 was not very good

[@torontofreddy8688]

This is amazing! Would you mind doing a video for The Elm Street series? And yes, if you must add the atrocious remake then so be it!

[@chrisbridston3438]

Easy page subscribe after two stellar documentaries ! Good job sir:) from this huge movie freak to an obvious other .. 👏 👏 👏

[@huskeryu]

I do like that the reaction of the townspeople in 4, opposed to every other horror franchise where the killer returns and everyone refuses to believe it, is to squad up with guns and go on constant patrol.

[@chris_m986]

Loved this mate. Halloween was something else. Masterpiece! I loved Halloween 2 aswell, even though Carpenter hated it.

[@buzzcrushtrendkill]

H2 '81 is the best sequel there is in the entire canon, in my opinion. Though H1 should have never had a sequel. Too bad the anthology approach didn't continue. But in H2 '81, does anyone know why they reshot ending of the first of Michael being shot off the balcony? Why change it from a back bedroom balcony to the roof of the front door porch? They had the footage of the first. I always wondered why they felt they needed to do that.

[@ThisIsEduardoBueno]

My top 5 Halloween movies: 1. Halloween (1978) 2. Halloween H20 3. Halloween (2007) 4. Halloween 4 5. Halloween 2 (2009)

[@courtneyscott7931]

Eduardo Bueno: My top 5 Halloween movies: Halloween (1978) 2. Halloween H20 3. Halloween (2018) 4. Halloween 4 5. Halloween 5

[@ThisIsEduardoBueno]

@@courtneyscott7931 Halloween 5? Really? I really dislike it hahahaha

[@jmdnelson4891]

I loved the fact that they did so many sequels. (With very MIXED results!!)

[@renatocorvaro6924]

Hallowe'en shaped every horror movie that came after.

[@devilkicksanji2]

The 2nd franchise that became obsessed with, ever since I was around 9-11, going through my dad's recorded VHS's and stumbling across part 4 and becoming instantly hooked, renting the others from blockbuster. Shame there was no mention of the producers cut of 6, as I recall times of scouting the internet looking for the differences and a copy of the film til it finally got an official release, but I get that trilogy was lukewarm for you at best lol. I'm having a blast marathoning these vids. XD

[@marianmain]

Really great video and you have very interesting opinions on the movies! However, and I mean this with absolutely no malice or bad intentions) sometimes the background music is all I can hear/concentrate on because it’s very loud. That’s a me problem though probably! I have subscribed because I loved your Zdzislaw Beksinski video. Wonderful content and I look forward to watching the rest of your videos 🖤 P.S. I saw the first Halloween film in a cinema in Ashington, Northumberland UK where I lived at the time. It was I think the summer of 1980 or 81. I was sixteen at the time and after the film I literally ran all the way home because it scared the heck out of me 😂 Have been a fan ever since! Thank you for the video. I love it when someone breaks down franchises like this and brings it all together! 🥰

[@christhornton8219]

I agree that Resurrection is easily the worst in the series. I think that it tried to emulate the MTV show Fear, which took a group of young people to a supposedly haunted locations, gave them camera backpacks, and jumped scared the hell out of them. You are spot on though, every movie is a product of the decade in which it was made. Great video!

[@TheSilverVixen]

Coming back to this to say I just watched the trailer for Halloween Kills and was delightfully surprised to see the Silver Shamrock masks being used. It's a nice little nod to the black sheep of the franchise and I appreciate that they acknowledged it.

[@paulvernoncreates]

AWESOME. Subscribed. I was in the shower and thought I'll search a history of Halloween.. and here we are 😀.

[@kweefypete]

Great video, so glad I found your channel. I would love to see one covering The Vengeance Trilogy movies ( Oldboy, No Sympathy for Mr.Vengeance and Sympathy for Lady Vengeance)

[@brunosoares1500]

Great content and soundtrack man. Just subed and delighted at your channel as a whole. Oh, and Super Eyepatch brought me here.