Altor Pistol - The worst choice of a firearm for self defense possible.

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The Altor pistol is a ...unique design that markets itself as a low cost self defense option. What it really is is a dangerous POS that shouldn't even be on the market. Let's go shoot this...thing with special guest Annette Evans of ‪@OnHerOwnLife‬ !
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[@rubbercable]

Never have I felt so un-safe watching a recording.

[@mattmarzula]

Hard primers and two people who didn't read the manual and are not mechanically inclined. Definitely makes for a scary scenario.

[@rubbercable]

@@mattmarzula You can't shift the burden of poor-design to lack of training. That's like saying you don't need sights, scopes, ergonomic grips, cos .. "more training needed".

[@CptJistuce]

​@@mattmarzulaSorry, but it isn't "We didn't read the manual", it is "this is the sketchiest technically-a-firearm this side of a 3D printer".

[@dc8836]

I got nervous watching Karl trying to put the fucking thing back onto "safe" after loading it. How the fuck does something that dumb make it all the way to final production??

[@razieldrakis]

After viewing this ALTOR pistol, a Hi Point pistol has never been more appealing to purchase.

[@PutTheLimeInTheCoconut]

Hi-Piont? No, that gun can stay in evidence locker..

[@razieldrakis]

@@PutTheLimeInTheCoconut compared to the Altor??

[@hawks1ish]

@@PutTheLimeInTheCoconut15 guaranteed shots is pretty excellent regardless of form factor

[@BatMan362100]

But for 100 of your hard earned dollars, you also get the tactical, the innovative, and amazing hose clamp padlock safety system. All in a biodegradable package.

[@wingracer1614]

@@PutTheLimeInTheCoconut A high point is actually functional and useful. This gimmick isn't even that

[@NKA23]

I've read a cyberpunk novel in which there was a REALLY cheap firearm, which was specifically made to commit suicide with. It was colloquially called "wednesday evening special" or something similiar. This is pretty much a real life version of that gun. A cheap firearm, that basically serves no practical purpose, except allowing the user to kill themselves with a shot to the head for only 100 bucks. Disturbing that some company made such a thing and tries to sell it...

[@LRK-GT]

Considering that this 'thing' reminds me strongly of "Cattle Guns", I can't help but agree... At least you know it won't get banned; maybe, they should've called it the "Net Zero Pistol"?

[@1stCallipostle]

$80 Pipe shotguns are already a thing. Honestly, with how unpleasant they are, I can't see much purpose to them other than putting it in your mouth

[@cericat]

Sounds like the Espinoza One Shot (which has been around in the RPG since the first edition expansion Solo of Fortune), loads a .50 short and notoriously unreliable, to the point of being known to explode on a jam.

[@BungieStudios]

If anything, it's humane.

[@charleshamel9746]

That actually sounds super interesting, remember anything else about the book?

[@Vidar_Odinson]

I sometimes have dreams where I have a gun but it's almost impossible to depress the trigger. My actual nightmares have come true, that's nice.

[@noname-xo1bt]

I have that dream, too! It's so frustrating.

[@derekp2674]

@@noname-xo1bt Me too.

[@TimperialBroadcastingAgency]

@@noname-xo1bt Ugh, same. Also can't rack the slide.

[@elektro3000]

I have the same dream, it's like having a dead trigger on a single action.

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Therapist, "Impossible to pull trigger gun isn't real. It can't hurt you." Altor, "..."

[@svenjonsson9]

Hearing Karl and Annette laughing about the ridiculousness of this pistol just really makes the video worthwhile. Annette brings a great levity and counterpoint to Karl, I hope we see more collaboration on the channel with the two of them!

[@kaelin000]

it's an "Equal opportunity self-defence firearm" that thing gets drawn in a self-defence situation, someone's getting shot... could be the person holding it, their target... someone a block away...

[@jaujud]

yeah, this thing definitely chooses diversity over anything else

[@joshuamooney4509]

Me: There will never be a worse pistol than the Zip22 Altor: Hold my nubbin

[@zaqzilla1]

Reminds me of Karl and Ian shooting the Liberator, but I think the Liberator was actually safer to operate.

[@jacobstaten2366]

Probably more accurate too because the sights are not being shifted away from the barrel every time that you reload.

[@airplanenut89]

Annette: It's only $100 Me: So is a new Hi-Point

[@WolfoftheAurora]

I'm partially convinced this thing was meant to be used to sell at buybacks, similar to the Serbu GB-22.

[@Nocleverpuns]

That or unaliving

[@fixedG]

Y'all deadpanned that flawlessly. And Annette's doin' the Lord's work. Always nice to see her involved and to be reminded of On Her Own.

[@DrEisenhower]

Oh, this is great if you need to defend yourself...from yourself.

[@protogenxl]

When you take the Deer Gun and somehow make it worse....

[@paulcrawford9007]

On a famous website I found over a dozen less expensive revolvers, one semi-automatic, one derringer and one bolt action single shot.

[@iskandartaib]

I read a novel many, many years ago set during the English Civil War, in which the hero joined a unit of the Royalist cavalry. He was given a brace of expensive "snap-haunce" pistols by his father, which actually had rifled barrels. Loading it involved using a wrench to unscrew the barrel, and balancing the ball on a nipple (after pouring in a charge of powder) before screwing and tightening the barrel back on top of the ball. Not only were these things single shot, they were practically impossible to reload while on horseback. Imagine losing the wrench. This pistol reminds me of that book.

[@MartinAdverb]

You can get a pistol like that from Pedersoli

[@teslashark]

That thing can penetrate 3mm steel at the typical horse battle range, but this?

[@cericat]

That's why some individuals like Blackbeard were known to carry as many as 3 braces, so he had up to 6 shots before needing to reload. How common it was to carry more than a single brace I've no idea, it's more often attested to in fiction than reliable historic texts.

[@WhatIfBrigade]

The internet is cruel to people who ask about the viability of percussion revolvers for self defense, but the existence of this "pistol" reveals it would be an upgrade for at least some people.

[@darkoflight4938]

Somebody ought to create an competition for these. Like IPSC... but slower.

[@rockchalk4815]

"Shooter, show....clear? Uh...."

[@Kolchakk]

The “negligent discharge derby”

[@geodkyt]

I think carrying a single shot flintlock pocket pistol with a turn off barrel would be more practical, safer, more accurate, and no slower to reload.

[@NikoMoraKamu]

im not a great gun connoisseur but aren't there more appropriate small firearms? i don't know the model names but in other videos ive seen small glocks and other brands wich had guns similar Alter size guns with magazines , proper trigger and semiatuo mechanisms if i have to choose i will preffer the modern ones

[@LuisNunes-ps4sl]

@@NikoMoraKamu Literally anything on the market is better than that thing. Reproduction black powder revolvers are way better. Brazilian polymer pistols are better. That thing is an accident waiting to happen. I think it was made to be shot once and dropped...

[@Sableagle]

@@NikoMoraKamu M&P Shield has been getting a fairly good reputation, Glock models 26 and 43 are subcompact 9 x 19 mm (Glock have a policy that none of their model numbers ever matches the calibre), S&W revolvers include a bunch of double-action-only models with internal hammers, short barrels and tiny sights that sacrifice pretty much everything to not snag on your pocket _and can be fired three times from inside your pocket_ so a problem doesn't have time to see the gun come out and try to control it (No damn use whatsoever for anything except stopping an attacker who's already so close you can poke him with the muzzle to aim, but they work) and I'd sooner Josey Wales it with four cap-and-ball revolvers than count on this weird little cattle-stunner thing.

[@nickolaswilcox425]

@@LuisNunes-ps4sl no kidding, ive got a bp revolver with better safety than this, plus it comes from the era of paper cartridges so in theory its a relatively quick reload, the colt police has this lovely feature where you can half cock it and leave the hammer sitting between chambers where it will still require you manually fully recock but allow you to safely carry it fully loaded without leaving it on a chamber and almost no chance of it falling far enough to set it off even if the chamber does somehow end up being forced to move

One soft rubber washer acting as autorebound would make it infinitely safer, but I saw more practical and safe stuff made by inmates in prisons :D

[@miserylovesshotguns]

I loved the line about how a single round of 9mm is such an effective fight-stopper.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

Hey man, it’ll blow your lungs out of your body!

[@TheodoricFriede]

The only reason I carry a 9mm is because I cant carry a 10mm, am I right? ...What?

[@alessandroriccardi461]

We need a Paul Harrel self defence video, like the bolt action or the cap and ball revolvers one.

[@jamesyoung1547]

5 day old sushi seems like a safer choice than this firearm!

[@Night-Jester]

I'll take a WW2 Liberator over that thing. I thought it was a butane torch at first but it turns out it's a California approved self defense device. You guys were fun in this one.

[@MarvinCZ]

I don't know, when Karl and Ian tried the Liberator, they had much more trouble hitting anything, and it hurt their hands a lot more.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

@@MarvinCZ As a close up point blank pistol, the liberator is manageable. And the ‘hand hurting” from the sheet metal clam shell design can be solved with grip tape. I would take a liberator over this thing any day.

[@MarvinCZ]

@_The_Dragon I wouldn't take either if there was almost anything else available, but the Liberator is worse in most regards. Possibly manageable, but worse. You'd have to use the Liberator at a range where even a knife is better.

[@pataki2666]

-Hands up! I’m gonna steal your tools! -I’ll cooperate, don’t shoot! Let me first hand you my inconspicuous glue gun…

[@mikeblair2594]

Annette, if you ever read this, the work on your left arm looks like it was done by my friend Kieba. She lives up in the mountains by Shiprock. If you know her or ever get the pleasure of knowing her, I highly recommend her work. My name is Ozz.

[@razieldrakis]

A Cobra Brand Derringer in .38 special that has two shots brand new was $99.95 online back when they were made in the early 2000's. And they load way easier than this Altor thing!!

[@mattmarzula]

And $99.95 was the equivalent of $185 now. The problem is you can't buy a Cobra .38 these days without some boomer trying to bend you over on Gun Broker. Otherwise, they're roughly the same price today after inflation.

[@CyberKnightX21]

The biggest plus I see to this is that it would be extremely easy to clean compared to other guns.

[@JC_R8MEOW]

Never thought I'd live to see the day that a Lorcin Engineering L25 looked like a good defensive option.

[@cokedaz]

What has been noted in other videos on this, because of the pull back trigger, it means you cant even have your fingers high enough on it so you have a weird pinky grip which makes it hard to hold and fire and it not want to fly out of your hand. This thing has completely no benefit other than the price over literally any other lethal barrelled weapon. Regardless of the horrible safety issues, if this at least had a normal trigger it could be fun as a novelty item only, but this I think is the only case where I believe no gun is better than this. Would you want a live round in this in your pocket? Would you be able to take it off safe and fire it accurately quickly? Surely a 2nd hand hi point or a single shot shotgun can be got with the same money? This might be fine if it was $25 but at 100 its crazy as it offers nothing.

[@thinkingbill1304]

It's a factory made zip gun with a brand name. Others have done videos on this and have come to the same conclusion.

[@brittakriep2938]

Replace the short Barrel with a longer one and you have a cane, you can use as club after firing.

[@Reactordrone]

"What if, instead of a trigger disconnector, we have a ramp to disconnect the finger from the trigger?" - Altor design team(probably).

[@SenorGato237]

I get the feeling that a spring you pull out the back and release, like a slingshot, would work better.

[@danielbretall2236]

I love that Altor has made a single shot pistol thats SLOWER to reload than a 3 century old flintlock.

[@The1jonnyz]

Pretty scary to think this might become someone's first firearm! Talk about an accident waiting to happen!!

[@williamflowers9435]

Standard Manufacturing and Altor should collaborate and make a double barrel version with SM’s patented keyhole feature

[@christianwilliams1690]

Despite that it has two separate safeties, this pistol is incredibly difficult to fire on purpose and incredibly easy to fire by accident.

[@FishyBoi1337]

We all *joked* about the hi-points being more dangerous to the user than the target or assailant, but this literally, actually, looks to be more dangerous to the one using it than somebody on the other end of it.

[@michaelrodriguez6210]

Im like half way into the video, and the first shot looked like it was a surprise

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

When you need a back up to your hi-point but can’t afford another hi-point

[@ergofoxxxy]

This is basically like a liberator, but the liberator was easier to use probably. If they added a trigger guard and made the trigger larger it might work reliably

[@MrAvenger1975]

Honestly, the pistol's not that bad. Once you get used to how it operates and figure out the sighting (in mine experience it shoots a tad high), it is not as bad as the detractors here say/think it is.

[@edwardzignot2681]

"WTF, is that a 1950's toy raygun?" - My actual reaction to seeing this insane POS.....

[@Sonkalino]

I didn't know McDonalds had a live gun as a Happy Meal toy.

[@FiniteEntity]

Now this is what restrictive gun laws should be for. Not box magazines, short barrels or ear saving muzzle devices. It should be to outlaw this kind of blatant stupidity. This feels like a case where there should be a lawsuit, where that famous US litigiousness should come into play, because whoever invented that thing deserves a spanking.

[@TheMCD1989]

So someone one day was cruising around the internet, found the deer gun, and thought wow what if I made this terrible gun again but sold it for self defense.

[@blvalverde]

Amazingly, they invented something that makes the revolver you guys used in the last video look modern and tactical

[@DeadPollo]

The Liberator was a more desirable design

[@tomfoti7439]

Look at the Vietnam era “Deer Gun” for reference.

[@Clipazine]

This bizarre contraption is more primitive than those Liberator pistols from WW2 that weren't even really issued in large numbers, but this is being sold for a hundred bucks on the commercial market in 2024. This thing makes a Hi-Point look like a boutique hand-fitted 1911 in comparison.

[@OspreyEye]

double lisp action in this video. love it

[@quint3ssent1a]

You got to give the inventors their due credit: at least it's easier to reload than this pistol's spiritual dad, FP-45 Liberator. On the other hand, Liberator had more functional trigger...

[@bl4cksp1d3r]

I'd rather get a liberator or two, seems to be cheaper and more useful

[@williamromine5715]

Unloading, the gun with a live round in it, looks even more dangerous.

[@Eric_Schon]

from what I understood when these came out, it was for buy back programs. spend $125 on this and go to the gun buy back and get a $200 gift card. $75 profit.

[@otdj3794]

I always saw these as a humane dispatch tool, something to keep in a truck or on a farm for wounded animals. The idea the manufacturer mentions self defence is insane

[@drew7308]

I've never seen a Hi-Point commercial so effective than Annette struggling to figure out how to make this $100 piece of garbage function as intended...

[@jecejka]

The “pucker factor” for operating this POS is simply off the charts. 🤪

[@Cthippo1]

This hard reminds me of the "CIA Deer Gun" of the Vietnam era. 9mm single shot with a thread-out barrel. Somewhat different mechanism, but hard similar.

[@rayceeya8659]

Do number one question is, can you fire a round without the barrel? Having the round go off while loading is terrifying.

[@ElChris816]

Nope. Not even for the novelty of it.

[@MorbidMind123]

Its exciting to see the Liberator get a modern reconception.

[@EDSKaR]

On the plus side it has good re-strike capability if it lightstrikes...

[@JFirn86Q]

Their slogan for this product on the website is "Perfectly Simple and Simply Perfect (copyright mark)". Cmon... I mean, I get what they are trying to do, but it's not small for carrying and the safety is dubious.

[@yesterdaysrose5446]

America has quite huge and varied firearms industry. Sometimes, they make really excellent guns. Sometimes, they make... uh... whatever the hell this is.

[@MKhelobUltra]

The website sells a threaded barrel for this, which is pretty hilarious, as far as gag gifts go, if it's not meant to be an extreme budget "veterinary gun"

[@judgebigmansion3492]

Altor Pistol: The world's first 100% child safe handgun. The gun equivalent to pill bottle tops.

[@interpl6089]

I think hot glue from the specific thing Altor was designed after is probably more effective...

[@dothwalrus370]

You have me convinced! I'm selling my colt LE6920 to buy this.

[@neilmorrison7356]

As a Brit I think I will stick with my cricket bat or golf club as my self defence weapon😂😂😂😂😂👍

[@thomasjmeade]

The only purpose that has is when Sir Mortimer wishes to do the gentlemanly thing and avoid bringing a scandal to the family.

[@darthmartinez]

Its like they used leftover Remington 700 parts to build a single shot pistol.

[@57HEMIviken]

This was truly EPIC! THANK YOU!

[@TheFireMaker117]

The only reason I see this having an purpose is when a gun buy back is giving out 125 bucks per handgun. Maybe you could make 50-100 bucks

[@devikwolf]

$100 says that lock can be opened with two flicks of a wave rake.

[@Lorddrase]

After seeing a video of capandball about using the hall rifles breach for self defense id say even that would be better than whatever this is 😅

[@InrangeTv]

Yes

[@mister_woot]

Perfect for defending yourself against charging hills. It looks just about accurate enough for that and you might get the shot off in time to avoid attack from nearby geology if you rush it a bit.

[@ErrantValerie]

this gun feels like a psyop to make the average person more afraid of guns

[@brucecook502]

Who the heck would want to pay $100 for that thing? That looks like something you would pay $10 for and would only buy it as a bizarre novelty item if you collect things like that but not for any practical use.

[@-Seeker-]

How to make the Liberator look like an elegant design for a more civilized age.

[@SnowmanTF2]

With the amount of ok guns under $200 new; it is stunning anyone looked at this concept and greenlit the production expecting it to sell around $100

[@mattmarzula]

Gun buy back exploit...

[@ArktinenPeikko]

Isn't one of the "golden rules" for handling a firearm about keeping your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot? Why yes, yes it is. Having a gun that requires you to constantly fiddle with the trigger is just wrong on so many levels... Sorry if this was mentioned on the video, may have missed it.

[@themomaw]

I heard "100 dollar self defense pistol", went to a popular used gun marketplace, and found a listing for a used Hi-Point .380 for 100$. Buy that. Don't buy this.

[@Tonedog88]

There should be a law preventing the maker of that gun from using "Made In America" on their product. That thing is embarrassing and isn't worth a penny of the price.

[@captainskim1124]

I rather have a liberator than this. Like at least you don't have to build that

[@NexusSomnia]

This seems more dangerous to both the user and any bystanders or observers than any would-be assailant.

[@WurledPeas]

For $100 you could have a HiPoint that works and is halfway reasonable to shoot.

[@roberttandy7701]

In my opinion a self defense pistol should look like a pistol. If you have multiple attackers and you're ( cellphone, lipstick, walkcan.zippgun.) goes off. It may not have the fudge Factor. That a highly visible very recognizable firearm will. 19:23

[@buttfucker69]

I can really see the genius in John Browning’s design now

[@VulpeRenard]

Zip22: "You have to put your finger in front of the barrel to charge me, I'm the most dangerous pistol to load ever." Altor: "Hold my hot glue."

[@MrMemodrix]

Naw. I still want a Zip22. This thing, though. it scares me.

[@zrobotics]

Honestly, the fully plastic 3d printed ones seem less scary than this thing.

[@paulis7319]

@@MrMemodrix I wish Zip made a 9mm. Or a 50 BMG.

[@1rbdfl]

also do you have a baggie full of ice because i want that fingertip back

[@SausagecatChannel]

Haha Does actually look like a hotglue or more like a solder gun handle I saw at a sixstar bargain outlet ages ago. Wonder if they just took the same handle mold and repurposed it :)

[@Live4Gunz]

Make this thing like $20 and it'll be the most valuable gun in the world every time a gun buyback comes to town.

[@transtubular]

Apparently THIS is what gun buy back programs are basing their pistol value on.

[@atomic_wait]

For some reason I'd thought this thing was invented for that purpose, there was a gun buyback with a reward of more than the cost of this gun.

[@xmeda]

It probably cost something like that to produce this thing :D

[@Exarian]

Eh, this sounds like "I lost it in a boating accident." Where people think they have some little trick that'll actually not work in practice.

[@qoph1988]

Dang, good idea. I still think that the $18 home depot pipe shotgun is the more profitable option, but it's more risky

[@type40imperator]

Karl: "Cap and ball revolvers are not a viable self defense option." Altor: "Hold my beer."

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Hell, I'd take a single shot muzzleloading derringer over this thing.

[@mattmarzula]

A 6-shot cap n' ball revolver works just fine for self defense.

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

This thing makes a single action army look like a 20mm cannon in comparison.

[@charleshax]

(They’re also less regulated)

[@jpenna1976]

@idontcare-ct7jm Altor Corp. doesn't agree with you "Altor Corporation currently offers two types of single shot self defense pistols.". But, in reality it should be only used as vet pistol.

[@nolanolivier6791]

Altor: the company that took one look at the Liberator and thought: 'you know what? Betcha I can make that WORSE...'

[@OptimusSledge]

Eh, did you see how many shots it took before scoring a hit when InRange tested the Liberator? I think the two are equally but differently terrible.

[@christopherkessler4827]

The difference is that the Liberator had a purpose. It was a propaganda leaflet made from stamped sheet metal. The Nazis legit had to send some grunt into the woods to collect the liberators that fell from the sky and I'm sure that was annoying to the enemy forces. This, on the other hand....

[@christopherreed4723]

I believe the company recently secured a lucrative (well, they *think* its lucrative) government contract. That's right, the Elbonian National Police just ordered these to arm all their officers.

[@masarujishinswriter8038]

I took one look at this thing and thought CIA Deer Gun. I'm now convinced that an actual CIA Deer Gun would be better.

[@zakofrx]

The Liberator was better.. More like the Deer Pistol.. The CIA made Liberator knock off with a plastic grip and screw on barrel.. It even looks just like a bigger version of the Deer Pistol..

[@theritchie2173]

"The firing pin is not proud". I'm not surprised, I doubt that anyone is proud of this monstrosity.

[@festungkurland9804]

I think a claw hammer would be a better personal defense weapon.

[@NikoMoraKamu]

a bag of rocks is better than this thing you can trow them or use the bag as blunt weapon this hot glue gun only works for shooting yourself

[@GA-br8wj]

For the time it takes to fire and reload you can also try running, you will have plenty of time

[@quentinking4351]

Ball peen hammer. Concentrates force on the ball to break bone, which also helps it be a bit angle-blind when it comes to impacts. Though, in all honesty, a screwdriver is better for self-defense than an Altor.

[@derekp2674]

Or a wrecking bar ;)

[@richardnicklin654]

Rude words are a more effective form of self defence.

[@SchwoererBear1]

How did they make a hot glue gun actually shoot 🤔

[@Arphalia]

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought the same thing lol

[@goiterlanternbase]

Water can help😏

[@KunoMochi]

A hot glue gun has a better trigger... 😂

[@Wild_Bill57]

It looks like a brûlée torch, just less dangerous for the victim, more dangerous for the user. First time I’d ever choose a sharp stick over a gun.

[@tombearclaw]

But would you choose a guide lamp liberator or a cia deer gun over the sharp stick?

[@brett1567able]

holy cow Batman , PUT THAT CRAP DOWN!!! LOL

[@satagaming9144]

you are better off picking up a literal rock from the ground than using this thing. higher effective range.

[@SausagecatChannel]

Does look like a snubbier early nineties barbeque lighter honestly. Before they had to make them bright colors so people wouldnt mistake them for a real gun. Suppose after the first shot veers wide high right,theyll get that notion anyways. What if it was intended to be held gangsta style all along since they know their customerbases needs👍

[@jasonreed1631]

Historically speaking, sharp sticks have a reputation for taking names and relegating the enemy to the past tense. This thing looks like a Darwin award waiting to happen. California gun grabbers probably get a hard on when the see it.

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

What's crazy to me is that the diy zip-guns some kids were making many years ago in NY (not me of course) were of higher quality and safety standards. Which is remarkable as they were made from such high quality materials as: cabinet hinges, blocks of random 2x4, and nails.

[@nmize7623]

This is what I thought, too. Someone made a 1950's style zip gun with modern manufacturing methods.

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

I made a muzzle loading matchlock musket from some pipe and wooden boards when I was a kid and using black powder from firecrackers to fire it, and somehow that seemed safer than this thing.

[@1337penguinman]

This is right up there with the 4 winds shotgun, except those actually kind of work.

[@bh-2198]

The Liberator pistol seems like a Cadillac to his thing.

[@bh-2198]

The only way this thing is ever safe is if you never load it.

[@mats7492]

"its better to have a terrible firearm than no firearm" This thing:" Hold my so-called-trigger"