Insane Queens You Probably Wouldn’t Want to Be

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[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks to everyone for another great year! Happy New Year to you all!! 🎉🎉

[@ArtingFromScratch]

I demand a sequel INSANE QUEENS YOU WOULD WANT TO BE

[@diananievesavellanet]

Happy New Year to you too! Thanks for many entertaining & informational videos.👍🏼

[@tinacarter5304]

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[@ELKE-]

@@tinacarter5304 O PP And @ tina! Get a life disturb woman! 😏 Looks like you are a very lonely person. You need help! Sick and tired of your bullying, and to others as well. You have reported your psychopath!🙄

[@charzipuddin6129]

🎉Happy New Year!!🎉 💝🙆🏻‍♀️🖖🏽

[@amandab.recondwith8006]

As an insane queen myself, I must bolster their cause. Eleanor of Aquitaine may have been described as insane in the 12th century, but her legend in modern times shows her to have been extremely intelligent, politically astute, and decisively in control of her faculties. After all, she successfully married a French king and an English king, and no insane woman could manage that!

[@kaloarepo288]

Eleanor was from the south western French region of Aquitaine that seems to have had a tradition of strong female figures and this probably goes back to the Visigoths who settled in the area and in Spain when the Roman empire collapsed and Visigothic tribal law was very pro women giving them rights that were unheard of elsewhere until modern times. By contrast the Franks who were the progenitors of the French monarchy and many others were much more restrictive and had what is known as the Salic law which prevented women being rulers in their own right - so there were never any French queens who ruled in their own right but in areas influenced by Visigoths there were as in medieval Spain and indeed in England where female rulers were possible but of course rare.Eleanor's grand daughter (I think) Mathilda known as the empress Mathilda fought for her right to rule England and its French dependencies against the claims of Stephen of Blois her cousin. In the end after a long bloody civil war Stephen agreed that on his death Mathilda's son Henry II would rule giving rise to the Plantagenet dynasty that ruled England and parts of France until the mid 15th century.In Tudor times it became possible for Mary Tudor and later her half sister Elizabeth to become reigning queens. Much later on Mary II, Anne and queen Victoria also became reigning queens and of course Elizabeth II.

[@suZanna20]

Sign of the times Ma’am ❤

[@karmaalstad5588]

Put St. Olga and Pharoah Hatshepsut in there too.

[@kaloarepo288]

Sorry empress Mathilda was the grand daughter of William the conqueror and sister of the prince , son of Henry I who died in the White ship tragedy so she would have been a cousin-in-law of Eleanor.

[@dont-call-me-et-al]

The start of your sentence is both hilarious & relatable

[@jessicaduncan9309]

A large, often unrecognized piece of this picture is the everyday exposures to things like lead, mercury and arsenic

[@Valentina-Steinway]

I think back then postpartum depression wasn’t recognized. Six children in rapid succession… can cause that. In addition to her bad marriage.

[@emeraldblue5291]

Postpartum wasn't recognized until about 25yrs ago. Women's anything has hardly ever been recognized. We're just hysterical. Just like Juana, its how men have controlled us for millenia.

[@juanitarichards1074]

Juanna was very much in love with her handsome husband and was heartbroken by his affairs and his neglect of her. When he died she couldn't let him go because it was the only time she had him to herself......poor girl.

[@hey_thatsmyname]

I actually read that scenario as she was so traumatized by him, she needed reassurance he was still gone...

[@DeadBlonde_80]

Actually most of these women obviously had PTSD and had symptoms of stress induced psychosis. Could you imagine your life being so uncertain all the time. Plus being a woman in these times was kinda awful. I don’t think they’re schizophrenic they seem to have depression and psychosis from loss and anxiety.

[@hey_thatsmyname]

Yeah, Juanna's "periods of rage" or whatever they called it seems like processing her childhood trauma and her lot in life. She had finally just moved out of her family's home and into her husband's. That's a common time period for victims of childhood abuse to start processing and coming to terms with the fact that they were abused.

[@anthonytroisi6682]

Juana's maternal grandmother was actually mentally disturbed. Juana's obsession with her husband was disturbing, but her some of her "odd" behavior could have been described as merely unconventional. After she became Empress of Mexico, Princess Charlotte of Belgium became paranoid and mentally unstable. Maria Eleanora of Brandenburg, the Queen of Sweden, took a pathological dislike to her daughter Christina.

[@melenatorr]

It is not true that Juana did nothing to help herself during the period between Isabel's death and Philip's: she tried to get out of Philip's hands; she resisted efforts to force her to sign documents that would isolate Fernando; she attempted to reach him both physically and by letter. She refused to cooperate with Philip's control of Castile when he appointed Flemish personnel to Castilian posts. At one point in Spain she actively took to horse and attempted to get out of Philip's hands, but unfortunately she was caught.

[@DeborahT-c2s]

I adore your work ❤ I look forward to many more excellent videos in the future. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication to your craft. Much happiness to you in 2024💜✌️

[@eslinden2770]

This programming is absolutely fascinating I remember when you began and I wondered how you would do. With the language barrier I worried about you but even then you approached such interesting topics and improved wonderfully. You are great at your task. Congrats!

[@emilen0304]

5:00 I’ve been listening while I cook, and I glanced back just in time to gawk… he is so educated and so handsome

[@AubreyShelton-rr7yy]

Agree 💯❤

[@jacquelineb4354]

I normally listen to your videos while I'm doing something else, so this is the first time I've seen a face to go with the voice haha, you have beautiful eyes! 🤩

[@jenny-pm8tl]

I don’t believe most of these women were insane. Mad, yes. The men around them were too worried about looking weak, having a wife who had more power and a larger role to lead than they did. Women have always been labeled as hysterical, still are. It wouldn’t have taken much to shut these women up and out to be the totally ‘sane’ man. I’d be frustrated and mad as all hell, too.

[@cherienafo7676]

Australia// Fantastic history lessons here- Thank you.

[@melenatorr]

The passive resistance from Juana that you mention at around 9 minutes in do not occur at this early stage of her marriage. They occurred later, during her first return to Spain, after Philip's departure, and after her return to Burgundy, in response to Philip's treatment. She would resort to these tactics during her captivity in Spain as well. But they do not occur during the first part of their marriage or during the period of their first visit to Spain when Philip was still there.

[@ELKE-]

Thank you for all your awesome videos, and great work through years. Happy healthy New Year to you and your loved ones FLives 🕊️🎊 Peace, Love, Happiness to all your subscribers as well ❄️ ❄️❄️❄️

[@joeanagoldstein185]

Has anybody of really bad post-partum depression? Pregnancies one after the other, being cheated all the time, and your husband wanting you to suppress all your feelings, while he alternative tells you he loves you, and then later tells you that anything wrong is your fault? Being MAD? Oh, yes!!!

[@annadickins3868]

A long, well-researched topic … how wonderful! Happy New Year to you!

[@jeanettetuhi7973]

I'm loving your content it's the history I craved in history class 1984 thank you

[@snippyJ]

I don't believe that Juana was mad. I believe that she was just pissed off.

[@sammy5674]

Brilliant video, as always. Thankyou forgotten lives ❤

[@nataliep501]

I agree, I love this channel!

[@sammy5674]

@nataliep501 love it me natalie it helps me sleep. His voice is so sublime. Should be an audible narrator

[@melenatorr]

No. The rumor of Isabel torturing Juana comes from a letter written about 20 years after Juana's childhood. The letter was from one of her jailors at Tordesillas to Charles, justifying their treatment of Juana. There is no contemporary reports from either native or foreign sources about this, and foreign sources would have been happy to report this gossip. In addition, it would have been reckless and foolish to risk injuring a royal female body, whose function was to bear children. Please stop perpetuating this bit of gossip, which has no basis in actual sources. Thank you.

[@edwelty]

This is fascinating! Your voice is so relaxing and informative. You are a great historian and storyteller.

[@zero_bs_tolerance8646]

Thank you, FL. Happy New Year.

[@jeni2372]

Great video!!! Held my interest from start to finish. Would love more like this. Hope your holidays are full of all the best and an amazing new year to come. ❤

[@Moekristie]

The shear terror of being 19 and living with the hapsburgs ... Good god what a fate ... Id go mad too

[@mutecryptid]

It’s hard having invisible disabilities nowadays, I can’t imagine how awfully they treated these women.

[@denciolombos2510]

I've missed lots of you videos for months.. and I'm t going to catch up 🤘

[@karenmcdonald7801]

Another very interesting video, thank you. Prince Phillip and the late Queen Elizabeth were third cousins.

[@candybox5360]

Excellent. Really superb , I love most of your Canon. Thank you.

[@LaurieValdez-zk3dy]

Aren't we all just a little crazy in a good way❤❤❤

[@jamellfoster6029]

Juana was actually very intelligent. She questioned the Spanish Inquisition and that took a lot of intelligence to do so.

[@Dryadkal]

Two of her daughters were also quite ambivalent towards orthodox Catholicism. Isabel died young, in her early 20s but she was the most protestant. But even Mary queen of Hungary had some sympathy for Luthers idea, if only for a short while in her youth and was quite tolerant towards protestants in her governing of the Netherlands, even though Charles the Emperor was hardcore Catholic. It wasn't that unusal tbh. Not with a Borgia Pope and corruption and vice at a peak. Lots of European Christendom was brewing with instability and critical of the lustful Rome. She wasnt much in favour of the Inquisition but died a Christian on her deathbed, even after all her suffering

[@melenatorr]

Please refer to the recent biographies of Gillian Fleming and Bethany Aram for reference to primary sources. The people referenced there do not mention any instability in Juana during the early phase of her marriage to Philip. They mention the financial and political stresses caused by Philip's withholding of Juana's stipend and his stocking her household with people who reported to him; and Fuensalida, for one, reports to Isabel that Juana's fortitude and courage in the face of the opposition to her in Burgundy is admirable. This is a far, far cry from what you are mentioning.

[@lazyeight01]

Well done sir. One of your best I think.

[@TheR1U2T3H4]

Great job again, Happy new year history fans 🎉

[@Miami680]

Just curious, if the English wanted to express their dominance after the fall of Rome; why do they use the Roman numerical system for their royal names?

[@Mtz2604]

TYVM for the compilation.

[@mkervelegan]

Found myself helplessly screaming with laughter at these descriptions. Done with tact, taste and erudition that we expect from Forgotten Lives. Looking forward to visiting Austria, Trieste and Venice in the next weeks to put this into context.

[@maryrowe3981]

Thank you and happy new year 🎉 to you and yours!

[@yarrowwitch]

At one point, Henry VII of England was intent on making Juana of Castile his second wife.

[@1509hk]

just imagine what could have happened

[@emeraldblue5291]

Instead he married his son(s) to her younger sister

[@jackiekidwell5004]

The very best was saved for last !! 😃😃 The story of Ravanola the Queen of Madagascar - maybe one of the most interesting and unusual Queens ever in History !! Not even to mention that Madagascar was supposed to have been once connected in long ago History to the ancient country / land of Lemuria, which sank beneath the sea, Lemuria is where we get the word lemur from to describe these prolific little monkeys in Madagascar. There's nothing about any of this that's not interesting. 😃😃 Great program !! Very happy I subscribed !! 1:02:44 Very sorry: Ranavalona l. As cruel as she was, you must admit she was a reasonably capable leader and the betrayal by her son was pretty despicable even as evil as she supposedly was !! Possibly her son's betrayal sped her death way up ?? Although to live to 83 in that day and age was shocking in and of itself !! Fascinating utterly !! 1:17:10

[@kaloarepo288]

No Lemur comes from the Latin for "ghost" - the Lemuria fantasy was invented by the theosophist Madame Blavatsky. Madagascans originally migrated by sea to that African island from the Indonesia and Malaysia area and they are related to those peoples not so much to the people of Africa.

[@Lara-xc1mf]

Agreed her story was so fascinating and I had never heard of her anywhere before. Brilliant! Thx

[@shelliegilbertson9828]

It seems like if you are a crazy queen, you end up living a long time.

[@alanaadams7440]

Well if you are treated as a brood mare you would be a little nutty too

[@daniakalaina]

An inconvenient woman is often called crazy. This still happens.

[@joeanagoldstein185]

She was also taught cannon law, court and country affairs, and as Isabella had lived continuously trying to conquer territory, she also taught them what they needed to know to do so…proof of that is that King Henry VIII left her sister, Queen Catalina, his first wife, as Regent several times (when he went to war, when he went to France, etc) And let’s be real, the continental royalty usually was based in Salic law (only males could rule), unless there is no other way…women who became queens under their own right, where doing something wrong against their sex, based in religious and secular authorities; I remember reading about Elizabeth I, her saying “I have the hearth of a King, and a stomach, too” to make her soldiers get ready to battle the Spanish Armada! Poor Juana, she was ahead of her time, too passionate, and too direct! Not very diplomatic, just like her mom!

[@mariacoronel2547]

36:55 Mexico 🇲🇽 has never been nor is it now a country of Central America. Just a note for the sake of historical accuracy. No offense intended.

[@tinygrim]

new back ground is awesome !!

[@ambassadorofearth9618]

Thank you. Happy New year to you too

[@Ella-go9px]

I'm surprised I didn't get mentioned

[@HeathertheGreat_]

😂

[@glorialange6446]

Elenor was probably driven to violent thoughts by Henry and his volatile rages and personality, and became homicidal through the desire too see her sons rule. Henrys philandering didnt help. But ultimately I do not see her as mentally ill but as a criminal mind always scheming. Her son John though, I do see as tipping over possibly inherting traits from his parents to cause him to be mentally ill. I think he was paranoid and narcissistic and a violent psycopath.... maybe he was abused into it but I dont think so, i once again think it was greed.

[@nonprofitgirl]

Thoughtful. Very good.

[@catherinestevenson]

Excellent video !

[@debbralehrman5957]

Wow, very good video. Happy New Year 🎊🎉

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Thank-you so much

[@kentuckygirl9752]

Great video! Happy New Year!

[@RandiNeese]

Loved this episode. Thanks

[@mariecolette170]

Juana was beautiful…and probably bipolar. I really don’t like the way they try to taint her legacy. Yet when there were male monarchs who were mentally unstable, there is so much more sympathy, and somehow a “reason” for their illness-losing a child, war, blah blah..How can we change the narrative about her?

[@AllynAlama-i4s]

Back in those days monarchs married their own family members the closer they are related the greater chance of mental illness, and physical impairment, etc.

[@MDiStefano10]

When I read the title of the vlog, I was certain my mother law would at least get an honorable mention.

[@rhondabryant667]

Yet, Christ reigns!!!

[@gabriellekoukis9460]

I love the historical stories but this one has far too many adverts. They are so distracting

[@kennethhill1535]

I know how they feel i see therapist and take my mid, and it*s nothing funny about 😢

[@daniakalaina]

We are lucky that there are such good meds now so we don’t live in an alternate reality like George III

[@kaarlimakela3413]

Who can blame some of them in a world where women were used for reproduction often fatal in those days.

[@jamesstaplesv]

there lead based make-up doesn't help

[@KalikaXX]

I'm sorry, that was a lot of info to take in, I got a little confused as to how Juana of Castille was related to Catherine of Aragon? I thought I heard a couple different ways, would someone mind clarifying?

[@erinmboehm]

They were sisters!

[@WilliamCarlson-rh2ri]

Thanks!

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks for the support 😊

[@crysajb-iq1hd]

I enjoy thinking that the people in some of those famous portraits are enemies who pretended to be me and my family. I imagine they are trophies. I imagine they had no choice.

[@crysajb-iq1hd]

I didn't hurt them. They have no right to hurt me and my family.

[@zarahofshiloh7537]

It did not mean that non-muslims were not in those territories of Spain. Some or many may have stayed. The Muslims made them pay a tax to be of another faith, but of course there is only one true faith.

[@zahria]

Wow - do you use the German "Hausarrest" where you live?

[@danniellefenton-johnston8123]

You said the 1940s did you mean the 1540s or the 1440s?

[@jenny-pm8tl]

Good question. I was wondering about that, too. I listened again and read the transcript, thinking I misheard what FL said.

[@nphipps9406]

i believe that those evil queen were very hashed because they were women and they did what they had to, to prove themselves worthy of the throne

[@Dryadkal]

Joanna wasn't tortured in her youth. Her mother loved all the children. It's only a rumor spread by one Juannas jailors, written decades after a youth to excuse his own appalling behaviour towards his sovereign. In Flanders Joanna faced financial abuse from her not so nice husband, and social isolation. Later she became queen against all expectations because her siblings and their children died too young. Tragic. She was horribly obsessed with Philip. Isabel tried to educate Joanna in Spain, but Joanna nearly offd herself and she was finally send back to Flanders, only to continue her unstable behaviour. When Isabel died, Philip didn't hold back anymore and she became his hostage for the last year of their marriage until Philip died. She did try to be one step ahead this whole time, she feared he would imprison her. Wouldn't be the first time he did that sadly. She undid all his political decisions. Her mental breakdown finally happened because her father Ferdinand was just as despicable and powerhungry as Philip. He took her son Ferdinand Junior away, but let her youngest daughter stay at Joannas side. Which was a plaster on a wound for the imprisoned Joanna but a severely lacking youth for a royal princess. Disgraceful behaviour by the patriarch of the family. When Ferdinand died and Carlos came to Spain, Joanna had already been staying in one place, under not so nice jailors. She did sign a paper for Carlos to rule, she never did that for Ferdinand. Carlos and his wife and kids sometimes visited Johanna and her grandson Philip II pitied her circumstances apparently. All her other kids when adults ignored her. She died alone with only Saint Borgia on her side, she had been immobile amd in pain for sometime. Older than 70, all kids reached adulthood, all of them monarchs, and she had nothing to show for it, just loneliness and abandonment. I hope she rests in eternal peace

[@thelurelady]

Me too 😁

[@caddieohm7059]

Pro tip: listen sped up. Way more eligible

[@melissaflores2301]

Mexico is in North America…

[@Auntie-Sara]

5:41 At odds with France from 1940s forward. This was misspoken in error, yes?

[@trishmcl9055]

Wow. Did I hear that right? She had her daughter tortured?😮

[@claremaidofthewave251]

I’m getting Nick Kamen vibes 😉

[@beatrizbarral5304]

Mexico is in North America...

[@crazyemraled8494]

I truly think if they went insane was because of their treatment and abuse 😢

[@jeromesullivan4015]

Insanity isn’t for the Squeamish…

[@whitewitch32]

Non of this Queen's was insane, they was accused of insanity by they counterparts because they didn't feat the picture of submissive wife or woman. They legend is product of their time.

[@Patricia-mr2po]

Me too 🎉

[@cherylbrooks7005]

❤

[@loditx7706]

@anthonytroisi: I don’t know much about any of the Spanish Royals in any of their iterations, so I only have superficial familiarity. Now, if it were the Stuarts of Scotland I’d be more comfortable or the Tudors, murderous bastards as they were; however, in my limited reading about them, I determined that Juana’s grandmother exhibited all the symptoms of clinical depression, exacerbated by being locked away with maids who doubled as wardens. Frankly, with the fanatical devotion to religion most seemed to have I’m surprised more of them weren’t described as crazy. And of course she married a Habsburg, who would make any woman demented, and thus introducing that tainted bloodline into Spain, beginning with her son Charles and devolving to the last Habsburg king, Charles II who died in 1700. A lot of popes destroyed that family by granting dispensations so that close blood relatives could marry. Yuck!! 👎

[@ronniebar3857]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@ninasimone3765]

The evil of there ancestors cursed them all

[@CarnivoreCurin]

This is good information for what I am currently in reading and watching on books and KZbin. I am interested in citations and accurate information . If you can help, please respond to my comments.

[@kaleahcollins4567]

Black moors you mean SAY IT RIGHT SOUTHERN EUROPE WAS RULED FOR 700 YEARS BY BLACK MOORS NOT ALL WERE BERBERS SOME WHERE BANTU ISLAMIC CONVERTS AS WELL. LETS NOT FORGET THE ORIGINAL BLACK HEBREWS WHO LIVED THERE AS WELL

[@queenfish66]

"insane"

[@elisafrye2115]

This is interesting information, but the narrator’s cadence:( ta da-ta-da-ta-da) that is making me seasick!🤢

[@MDiStefano10]

OMG those lips!

[@talpark8796]

🙄

[@Midrac61]

Good topic and development. Sad about the effeminate pronounciation.

[@cegesl4521]

Ravanola was a Queen that saw the evil behind Christian she was a good queen for her people and that’s why the colonists would not stand her

[@zabrinna6554]

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