INSANE things I've seen in my Church's denomination (PCUSA)

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[@DarkArcticTV]

it blows my mind that there are pastors that deny the Resurrection

[@braedenh6858]

A lot of pastors take up that job when they are young and they go to college and get their required degrees and certificates, but they are not always true believers, or were at one point and drift away (parable of the sower). You would hope that the senior leadership would remove these dopes, but they don't, for whatever reason.

[@wesreleases6346]

This is like a doctor that doesn’t believe in germs.

[@theperson4yearsago565]

​@@wesreleases6346fr

[@peregry]

It shouldn't surprise you, that has been the main position of the majority of Mainline Protestant Academia since the 1920s and the Modernist / Fundamentalist split.

[@theperson4yearsago565]

@@peregry nruv

[@bossinater43]

As someone who not in a mainline denomination and goes to an Evangelical church, I completely understand why we need to preserve the mainline church.

[@danielbrowniel]

iron mixed with clay, looking forward to the gathering of the saints. I want off this crappy planet

[@EzioAuditoreDaFirenze99]

Absolutely. I think we often forget as evangelicals how much history we have lost, but also, John Wesley for example birthed the revivalist movement that formed evangelicals as we know them today, yet look at the STATE of Methodism.

[@universome511]

As someone who's not religious this sounds like Going to a Football Game and they don't even have a Ball

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

See? Even non-religious people can see how absurd "atheist church" is

[@universome511]

@@redeemedzoomer6053 it's like a Cinema with no Film

[@universome511]

@@redeemedzoomer6053 Also Zoomer you're not a conservative because you took a stand and decided not to abandon your Institution to run off into the woods and then cope about it after

[@RotneybotOfficial]

Beautifully described, friend.

[@universome511]

@@RotneybotOfficial thank you

[@joesmitty8231]

As a baptist from suburban Kentucky, I've never known how bad spiritual liberalism in Christianity can really get

[@aidonwelsh8968]

Yeah shout out ky, 502

[@stage31lumbago62]

As a Baptist from rural small-town Kentucky, our church sees it, and we've been actively been trying to fight against it. It's sad what it's come to these days

[@murdock8068]

Central ky here. I was out towards Glasgow ky at a church. It got really sketch..

[@fallenkingdom-zd8xh]

Catholic Kentuckian here

[@paulandreig.sahagun34]

As a Baptist around 250 meters away from the nearest Kentucky Fried Chicken. Oh, boi, Spiritual liberalism really does let a bad spirit in your life rather than the Holy Spirit.

[@mattt198654321]

Former ELCA Lutheran here. I'll one up you. At my old church, the senior pastor walked into the youth group one day and loudly announced to a group of fifty 13 year olds that it was "OK to have s*x with whoever you want, whenever you want, as long as you love them". This was in 2002 (!) As you can imagine, things really started to fall apart after that.

[@braedenh6858]

Where do they get this stuff??? Seriously, I always ask them. What are they basing these claims upon?

[@mattt198654321]

@@braedenh6858 Based on nothing. That's the problem. Stand for nothing and you'll fall for anything.

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

That's horrendous

[@JustsomerandomnNebraskan11]

Goodness. That is horrendous and disgusting.

[@corporate.security]

Bruh

[@Ram-xg2ck]

"The PCUSA isn't liberal enough" Comedy Gold Don't worry Zoomer, they're working on it.

[@SyphrCoates-hd2vh]

🤣

[@CaptainEarls]

"I'll actually sing that for you now" *horror movie trailer comes in as advertisement* Most perfect timing ever😂

[@pawlaovicto7824]

10:38 "UNBORN BABIES ARE PARASITES" - THESE PASTORS ARE LUCKY IT'S UP TO GOD, NOT TO ME, TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY LIVE OR NOT

[@EvanG529]

"pastors"

[@hoosiermensch]

As someone currently looking into Orthodoxy, the pro-choice, resurrection denying, and Arianist pastor stories made me want to scream. I hope you prots get your churches back together, good luck and may God bless you and your movement.

[@austinpissey8789]

God bless you on your journey friend, my wife, kids, and close family converted to orthodoxy and it's the best decision we all made.

[@redaquila2891]

I was baptized into the Orthodox Church in May (I was an inquirer for almost 6 years BEFORE a 2 year Catechism), married to my wife in August, her family converted to Orthodoxy when they lived in Alaska. They used to attend a Nazarene Church. Absolutely a blessing that they found the Church!

[@Beracat]

look into the oriental churches

[@joshuagarber3576]

The PCUSA is quite liberal but the PCA is highly conservative but in a very biblically and spiritually grounded way not in a "Trump is almost as good as Jesus" kind of way

[@Alexandros_dimitriou]

As a Greek Cristian (not orthodox) I have to tell you that the Orthodox Church is on the road of folding to the liberal progressive views. The reasons are many but one is that the church is funded by the state. For example the resent legalisation of gay marriage was protested very lightly by the church.

[@benjamintreitz1647]

"the only one who doesn't fly a pride flag" - it's like the ONE GUY in the hood who never went to jail :D

[@Gibbstronic]

I'm so glad that the worst disputes in my denomination are about calendars and jurisdictions and not about Christ's divinity.

[@aCatholicOne]

Yes, not the Eastern "orthodox" who burn incense to images and venerate them, something condemned in (2 Kings 18:4), a Bible verse many will ignore including eastern bishops, who often do not care about sin and will even baptize homosexuals as long as they commit Iconolatry. Apostolic succession is not in a single area of the world, but in one Church, the Orthodox Church, if some of your "bishops" admit that if another is homosexual affirming, they are no longer apart of them despite them being within connection of the "patriarch", which is what Christian Traditionalists believe in Christianity, and it is how the body of Christ is united.@@siegeheavenly3601

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

​@@siegeheavenly3601You guys must need to say that to yourselves all the time.

[@opinionatortv6457]

​@@siegeheavenly3601 Why did you let the Catholic, Anglican and Pentecostal Churches evangelise Africa before you?

[@paul7432]

Neither the modern Catholic or Orthodox churches are the church Christ founded The Church Christ founded had many splits but stuck together until the church split in two, which is where you get the modern catholic and orthodox churches

[@opinionatortv6457]

@@siegeheavenly3601 We? They've been there longer than anybody and their traditions are so different that I'm not sure the Greek Orthodox church should take credit for it. Regardless, what happened to the rest of the continent?

[@budicaesar1213]

As someone who is participating in the reconquista and considers himself as an orthodox reformed christian, how do you handle with the depression of seeing these kinds of mess in a place where people usually find comfort? The reconquista can be really draining sometimes!

[@ItachiUchiha-bt8yp]

How can you be both Orthodox and reformed?

[@SgtPiper]

​@@ItachiUchiha-bt8ypYou can't

[@ItachiUchiha-bt8yp]

@@SgtPiper it was a rethorical question

[@budicaesar1213]

@@ItachiUchiha-bt8yp lower case orthodox. Look the definition up in a dictionary!

[@tjtjmich16p]

​@@ItachiUchiha-bt8yp his way of worship is reformed but his views on the bible is orthodox

[@charliec9728]

i used to go to a lutheran church when i was younger, the priest claimed that jesus was just a smart guy and he didn’t get resurrected lol. basically tried implying he was a marxist.

[@austinjackson7103]

Ewww, ELCA?

[@charliec9728]

@@austinjackson7103 yep, my mom took us there. I’m a cradle catholic but my mom didn’t like it there anymore. thankfully we left the elca church, had 2 heretic priests.

[@austinjackson7103]

@@charliec9728 Luckily I didn't run into that, I was Baptized ELCA and was very lucky that it was a great church home. We eventually moved to LCMS because it was a better fit but I wouldn't touch that other Theology with a 10 ft pole!

[@goose93]

​@@eliegbert8121lmao

[@TempleofSolomon]

My dad was episcopal and when he went to marriage counseling the priest mentioned Bhudda more than Jesus so he went Catholic

[@stevenhamann4344]

I, personally, am not a Christian. The thing is, neither are the people who are "theologically liberal." I'm pretty liberal, non-theologically, and heck, I'm even gay. I do look up to Jesus sometimes as he did preach love. I do not believe in some of the things in the Bible. I am just like the theologically liberal "Christians". I do not claim to be Christian. They are not Christian either.

[@marvinavilez1]

Thank you for your intellectual honesty

[@SonnyWane]

I live in San Diego! San Diego, when it comes to major cities, is actually relatively conservative and the reason is that there is a long and intertwined history of military and naval bases in SD. Yes the heart of the city (downtown) is liberal, but there are pockets surrounding the hub that are more conservative than you’d think.

[@braedenh6858]

the new generation of military folks may surprise you.

[@bschneidez]

Well it definitely beats the hell out of LA and San Fran in terms of sanity, even as a New Yorker I still know that much... Maybe proximity to Mexico helps, since Mexico has actual problems and therefore is way less interested in nonsense than America.

[@Jesuslover2000]

Kind of the same for Las Vegas... Probably just a lower percentage of conservatism.

[@aCatholicOne]

Hello, coming from the Church of North Park (PCA). I have noticed that Presbyterianism here is highly traditional. It is a good thing to see especially in an area with the Iconolatry heresy being prominent.

[@a_advocate_333]

I’m in SD too! I go to Bayview Orthodox Presbyterian Church

[@Cody-5501]

Videos like this makes me glad for my church where the biggest problem is our unskilled band. LORD help them when they try to experiment in the Christmas service

[@paulphalene8792]

As French catholic, I lived almost the same unbelievable scenes in my churches! Reconquista!

[@tirididjdjwieidiw1138]

horrendous

[@maten146]

Vraiment ? T'as vu des prêtres qui me croient pas en Dieu ? Les catholiques progressiste croient quand même dans la base du christianisme, même les plus progressiste des catholiques me sont pas proche du tout de ce qu'il décrit.

[@vvardenfell2145]

@@maten146 Certains prélats catholiques ont pu dire des choses niant les fondamentaux, mais je n'ai pas d'exemples en France. Néanmoins, ça existe dans l'église protestante unie (luthéro-réformée) et ça a tendance à de plus en plus m'énerver en tant que réformé. Je ne connais qu'une église de l'EPUdF qui ne soit pas libérale

[@wokekoala3888]

I'm an Evangelical non-denom. Leaning Pentecostal more and more. After you explained this, it makes a whole lot more sense why you want to retake these churches. I thought it was for the pretty buildings, or spreading Calvinism specifically, but in reality, it's for purging heresy. That's something I can get behind you on.

[@basementlm4200]

Pentecostals are spontaneous, which has no root in the Bible at all. The Bible clearly teaches us how to worship God in Leviticus and Numbers, and it does not include spontaneity (especially "speaking in tongues", acting crazy, "christian rock" concerts, etc). Worship is rooted in order. Please look into this before converting 🙏🏾

[@bobbobbington4426]

The aeon of Christianity is over y'all realize that right. The thousand year reign of Christ ended wiith the fall of the holy roman empire. Christianity is complete.

[@basementlm4200]

@@bobbobbington4426 that is crazy how could you say that. Acts is the only book in the New Testament that doesn't end with "amen" purely because church history is NOT complete. We have a living church, we are continuing to make saints to this present day. Our faith is complete (Hebrews 12:2), but Christianity is not ☦️ the truth of the Lord endures forever (Psalm 117, 1Peter 1:25)

[@RhoDesia-gr1wb]

Ughh, when I see the words "purging heresy" I get images in my head concerning these churches I probably shouldn't

[@wokekoala3888]

@@basementlm4200 I should be more clear. When I say I lean Pentecostal, what I really mean is that I believe in the spiritual gifts. Healing, prophesy, deliverance (not a spiritual gift, but still involved), tongues, etc. I don't think that you should be speaking in tongues in church without an interpreter. I think that most times you should speak in tongues is one on one with God. Along with tongues, I believe in these powers because 1. They are in the Bible 2. I've personally seen every one of these happen. If you are unwilling to get out of the way and let God work in your church, he won't work. It's that simple. I agree that people shouldn't act crazy in church, but there is no problem with having music to dance to to praise God. In the Old Testament they had wild parties every time they had a feast. In regards to Levitical law, we as Christians are not bound by that any more (Galatians). We don't need to sacrifice animals or circumcise because Jesus paid for all of that. The other ceremonial laws were for ancient Israel specifically. I agree that worship includes order, and I agree that Pentecostals take it too far, but worship should not be restricted to order either. Read Romans 12:1. I am not a Pentecostal, I am, and have grown up non-denominational, I just respect some aspects of them, and a church I've started going to incorporates some of that without going overboard. Be grateful that I am another believer, and that I am overjoyed at the spreading of the gospel like we should, rather than nit-picking about my tradition. God bless you. 🙏🏽

[@Bruno_Noobador]

People on his server: *paying respect for a guy that off-ed himself* (In Minecraft) Zoomer: Yeah so my denomination is very gay edit: added clarification

[@ayobithedark2772]

The chat is a highlight of these videos😂

[@AM22Salabok]

9:27 this is just insane to me. Like forget being a Christian, forget being a *pastor*, if someone said this I think they would just be a horrible person.

[@Hilter420]

Us Catholics seethe because priests don't speak Latin but hearing these stories makes me think that the poison of the modern world didn't hit us as hard as I thought

[@TempleofSolomon]

We need to stand against the horrible synodal jokers who wish to “modernize” our beautiful church

[@JustsomerandomnNebraskan11]

I'm Lutheran, pretty darn young too, and even I want to learn Latin. It's terrible that y'all's priests don't speak Latin.

[@keenanmeril8825]

Thank you, Hitler420, very cool

[@chico9805]

Look at what your Pope is doing, before talking.

[@DanteD84]

Yeah, basically

[@KingMonke6019]

Invest in scaffolding

[@KingMonke6019]

And like armor lol

[@marshall_zhukov]

My brother in Christ your women are in the pulpit. Need I say more ?

[@jessietricia1609]

6:08 lol, gotta say I'm loving this running gag (still hoping you would one day sing for real tho) Anyways as a Christian in a still very conservative country, whew the situation in American really does seem very dire (not to say we don't have problems on our own, though). Praying for you to succeed in this mission of restoring the mainline churches!

[@griveouswithhislightsabers3665]

Where are you from?

[@jessietricia1609]

@@griveouswithhislightsabers3665 Indonesia

[@kelg8434]

Broskis, how do i quit relapsing on lust and other temptation?

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

Pray, go to church, take communion, trust in Christ for salvation rather than your own good works

[@Suavemente_Enjoyer]

I was struggling with that too, I was relapsing because I was trying to stop sinning by my own willpower, which didn’t work. But then instead of running from sin, I focused on God, and cut out anything that would draw me back to sin. Since then God’s been helping me. So I’ll be praying for you :)

[@GraceContemplating]

Become obsessed with Jesus. Think about that feeling of falling in love... it is overpowering and all consuming. Nothing matters as much as being with your loved one. You think of each other when apart and adore one another when together. That leaves no room for other desires. So. Similarly, read the Bible voraciously, pray regularly, join other Christians in worship and learning the word. Fall in love with Jesus with him as the most important thought of your day. Then there is no room left for temptation. Temptation is about desire. So desire Him more and more and the other stuff will become less and less enticing.

[@asmitmehra7373]

Dear Christian, this might be little help also A video on KZbin entitled " set faith on work at Christ for the killing of your sin by John Owen " / 7:36 mins.

[@kriegjaeger]

I'm part of a humble congregational church with an outsized influence on the community through our many ministries. If your church is Good, help keep it that way. If it's poor, help improve it, make them kick you out if it comes to that. God will lead you in the right direction.

[@ostronord3236]

I was raised congregational and while I remember actually being taught Christianity in the 80s and 90s, now it is a social club run by liberal women. My test is: how seriously does a church take sin? Mine did not take it seriously at all so when I decided to revert I went elsewhere.

[@SaltAndSeeds]

This is correct. Keep speaking truthfully. Let them kick us out. Write letters to the church directly. But do not bring shame to the church with gossip. Speak openly, and DIRECTLY to the church. Test them directly, and not in a malignant way. Put the lamp on the lamp stand.

[@basementlm4200]

​@@ostronord3236 time to look into capital O Orthodoxy

[@Allaiya.]

I went to the Christian subReddit and it was filled with people saying Christians aren’t doing enough to help trans people against the GOP

[@colinsmith1495]

As a devout Southern Baptist, I wholeheartedly support your Reconquista effort! Watching what's been happening in some other denominations, and seeing a few of those things trying to worm their way into the SBC, it's been a BIG red flag for a lot of us. Keep up the good fight, brother.

[@Jimothy-723]

why did they have to use a cringe spanish term? it makes them sound like antifas.

[@jkk45]

We have senior bishops in the Church of England who have recently made comments such as ‘There’s no such thing as one consistent overarching Biblical understanding of marriage’ ‘The Christian view of marriage is always evolving’ Several have commented that the C of E is very quickly becoming a left wing political party. I think they could be right.

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

They are right, we need to retake it quickly and not run away as many are suggesting

[@Thescifienjoyer55]

@@redeemedzoomer6053is there anything wrong with being gay?

[@mmtoss6530]

@@Thescifienjoyer55 Being gay is a sin

[@chico9805]

​@@Thescifienjoyer55Yes, don't ask stupid questions here.

[@NerunSmarts]

@@chico9805 You're right, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it a stupid question. To thescifienjoyer55, it is clearly outlined in Leviticus 18:22 that sleeping with a man as you would a woman is detestible.

[@Nick-us8qh]

What miracles have you seen your grandma perform?

[@jessefoutz597]

That's what I'm most interested in hearing here, too.

[@wafflesaucey]

Cookies

[@lochinvarmack7641]

This is similar to my experience in the Church of Scotland. Many of the young members were children of the manse who were very left wing politically. One youth moderator was a socialist; another later became a Green Party politician.

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

Don’t leave it tho. Stay and fight!

[@lochinvarmack7641]

Absolutely. I totally agree that it is better to stand one's ground and speak up.

[@AllhailTDLjimpic]

@@redeemedzoomer6053Do you think that’s also possible in Sweden? Before you instinctively say yes consider that: the Bishop of Stockholm removed Crosses from the seamens Church and replaced them with muslim prayer spaces. Our Arch-Bishop removed all male pronouns from the official Liturgy. The mainstream view among the clergy is that Jesus resurection is symbolical. etc The Church cracks down on dissent hard so it would be near impossible to retake the clergy.

[@ayobithedark2772]

Fringe ultra-conservative Anabaptist group with decent theology similar to Catholic theology. I'm on the fence, do I leave or not?

[@Nekroleinchen]

@@AllhailTDLjimpic that sounds like it is even more necessary to retake them

[@MultiMobCast]

Pastors that deny the resurrection are a perfect example of why we need to believe our confessions whole heartedly before getting baptized.

[@Superw0rrio]

My church is somewhat conservative Evangelical, but we are under PCUSA for financial support. When I was in college my church asked me to represent the church for the university program of a big PCUSA conference. I think it was called The Big Tent conference. When I arrived, the university program started a day before the main program and it was genuinely fun and interesting. But then the main program started and it had a big emphasis on diversity and racism and that kind of stuff. At first I was ok with it but then I noticed EVERYTHING had something to do with diversity and/or racism. All the workshops had diversity/racism. All the worship and sermons had to do with diversity/racism. EVERYTHING except the food had some kind of diversity/racism involved. I ended up not going to any of the workshop and just waited for the university program to continue. The university program wasn't all diversity/racism but it was there. It wasn't as forced down my throat though so I actually enjoyed it. I remember we did this one activity where we all held hands side by side in a line, and we were asked questions like: Did your parents go to university, did you learn about your history in your school, were you called racial names, and more. If you had a positive answer you take a step forward, if you had a negative answer you take a step back. It was supposed to show that white people are privileged and minorities are not. I am Egyptian, so I'm considered a minority. But I was the most "privileged" and I was standing the furthest up even more than the "white" people. I truthfully answered the questions, but I guess I just didn't have a negative look on life, and completely went against what they were trying to show. This was like 2015; before I opened my eyes to all of this social political stuff. Now that I look back I really didn't understand what was going on around me and I'm glad I'm not a part of it. I look at the picture I took with the university program and we're a very diverse group. I didn't even notice until my counselor pointed it out when I showed him the picture. I feel like I was used to meet a quota and show a picture of what they wanted to look like. Another random thing I noticed was that most of the middle aged to older women had the same hair cut. It's like this super short curly hair style. I now call it "the haircut". A couple years later was when PCUSA started removing their mask and got more ambiguous about their stance on LGBT stuff. I'm said to see it's gotten worse. Anyway... Christianity is not about diversity inclusion and equity (die). It is about the love of Jesus that He showed to use when He brutally sacrificed Himself to cleanse us of our sins!

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

What church is it? I can add it to my map

[@Superw0rrio]

@@redeemedzoomer6053 its called Middle East Evangelical Church (MEC). Its in Temple City, CA.

[@Jimothy-723]

@@redeemedzoomer6053you are doomed to hell for your false idols. repent, or face the wrath of God.

[@Tawa-b5v]

What do I do about a church that hasn't *really* gone bad, but it's getting pretty unserious and you have a feeling it might get worse? The church closest to where I live has female priests, and highly modernized sermons about social media and shit. Once she literally started doing dollar store magic tricks during her sermon. And the organ played "Phantom of the Opera" at the ending? Like... it's not heretical I guess I mean they haven't straight up lied about the Bible and what not, but it's still pretty annoying. I want to hear about the Bible and praise God, I don't want to hear about inspiring Facebook posts you've read.

[@jakinboaz8558]

Stay and speak up! Make sure you’re involved with the church either as a member or in service, so you have credibility when you ask priests about sacredness and propriety in worship

[@chico9805]

Leave that church, find one that is based and fight vehemently to defend it against subversive outsiders.

[@WajikiSusan-pm8wl]

It is heretical chruch call it out

[@maten146]

When I see that I am happy yo be in the Catholic church. Even what we call liberalism in our church does not even come close to what you describe.

[@locmari]

@@maten146 Brother your pontiff literally said same-sex marriage is okay. Your church is just as bad as mainline protestants.

[@onthemidnightshift]

I went to the East Coast US in May and it was SO jarring that every single church we passed had the latest pride flag waving outside it. The buildings were so beautiful, but the whiplash was like seeing a giant bumper sticker on a Porsche. Also we visited a church with a woman head bishop who was stepping down and passing the helm to a Carmelite man who said with his whole chest ‘I am drawn to Mary because she’s a warm gentle contrast to the harsh, distant coldness of God’ and my jaw could have audibly hit the floor. WHAT IS GOING ON in the US?! This video makes so much sense of all of that mess. What you’re doing is so honourable. May God bless you, keep you, and order your steps. Thank you for flying the flag for Jesus ❤

[@RhoDesia-gr1wb]

I'm a sucker for good architecture, old buildings and a believer in keeping churches beautiful. The pain of seeing them is just awful.

[@mmtoss6530]

I attended my local PCUSA Church. It was nice, but I still prefer the PCA Church I’m at now.

[@kyledunlap1593]

My pastor said that the (female) pastor of the PCUSA church in my city said that Jesus is “a” way not “the” way. I live in Utah and this is irritating especially when there is already enough heresy around!

[@briguy9915]

Lol, what's more heretical, Mormons teaching that Jesus Christ is the divine and resurrected Son of God? Or your own church who teaches that Jesus didn't die for our sins and was a Marxist?

[@KOZMOuvBORG]

Oddly, the Presbyterian Church of Canada doesn't support LGBTQ+ as yet, seems the Catholics may do so first.

[@parrotconservative]

Proof we in clown world rn

[@Igelme]

Roman catholic here, AFAIK gay marriage is not supported by the church. Pope Francis made a comment in support of LGBT people (he said their love was real, which it is, and that they are sinners but we must love them anyway, which we must). A gay man or woman is a sinner, but we are all sinners. Lack of charity is a sin, drugs are a sin, avarice, envy, masturbation, etc. The idea being that there is no point in focusing on a gay relationship and shouting LMAO SINNERS OMG, when we all (specially nowadays where everyone is a lot more liberal) have sinned and will continue to sin.

[@KOZMOuvBORG]

The inclsion of Gays resulted from a mistranslation during a revision of the Bible in 1946 - see the film "1946 - The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culture" about that. What happened in Sodom - as explained in Ezek. 16:49-50, was the people wanted to demean Lot's angel guest by gang-raping them- not by having orgies with them.

[@locmari]

@@Igelme What do you mean, the pontiff has agreed to let bishops sanctify a gay marriage. That is heresy, don't try to defend things that go against the word of God.

[@lizzsszzy7800]

@@locmari They can bless a relationship between two people of the same sex; marriage is still off the table.

[@Oatmealyum]

The chat is basically every youtube comment reply section

[@flameguy3416]

Not seeing enough people asking Zoomer to convert to Orthodoxy

[@gang.jesus_]

I love hearing his slight New York accent whenever it happens, it's funny to me

[@greenfroggy333]

Honestly S tier Zoomer vid. From the conga line to father Abraham. Truly something special.

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

9:23 that's the thing though. When u're pregnant its NOT JUST UR BODY BUT THE BODY OF UR CHILD AS WELL.

[@PetroBeherha]

One can also apply the same logic from a pro-life perspective, if you count "my body" as also including the baby's body.

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

@@PetroBeherha fair enough. Personally I view them as seperate but this is something that i always heard in HS was "oh its my body I can do what I want" well first off no the fetus whether its cells a fetus or fully grown is a person and not a dog animal etc. secondly (admitedlly this is more for Christian pro abortion view so apologies if u're offended adn not Christian) no u can't do what u want with ur body because God created ur body through ur parents ability to create. God gave women the miraculous ability to bear children and imo its a slap to the face to God by saying "oh its my body the life inside me doesn't matter." And I know something people bring up is cost of a baby but here in Canada I would agrue theres even MORE reason to be pro-life (i think u meant pro choice) as pre natal and pregnacy and delivery all that is free under our healthcare system.

[@brainman67]

That's actually how I became a Christian I went to a church group then u asked for my Bible I tried reading it and I wasn't all thar interested and I remember interacting with Christians at various times the one time there was this street preacher and I was kinda trying to goof around with him after high-school I got a job and there I met a coworker who challenged My on my beliefs and who pushed back on the stuff I said but he'd always say I don't gotta listen or believe him But that I should look into things myself so I read my Bible trying to understand it all then I was convicted

[@Bearinthewoods88]

I disagree with how you define conservative, in that it is about going back to something in the past. The word actually means to keep safe, or to preserve from loss and decay. To go back would be to regress, but to be conservative about something (politics, doctrine, theology) means to have something worth holding on to, and shedding off what doesn’t align with that, and rejecting new ideas that don’t align with it. In Theology, this would mean to align all things with the Bible, shedding tradition where it doesn’t align, and only accepting new ideas or ways of doing things when they are consistent with Scripture. Great video though, and very eye opening! As a 35 y/o millennial who is a fundamental Non Denominational (baptist) in rural Kentucky, its so hard to imagine hearing those sorts of things in the church from the pastors.

[@fabulouschild2005]

How can you be Christian and not believe Jesus was God? That is straight up heresy!

[@gondola4554]

Arianism is a curse upon the Christian faith. St Nicolas did a great thing punching Arius in the face right in front of Constantine.

[@fabulouschild2005]

@gondola4554 I don't actually know enough about that story to comment. But like even I, someone who could be considered a "Liberal" Christian, wouldn't DARE to blaspheme against Jesus by suggesting that He is not God.

[@gondola4554]

​@@fabulouschild2005 That pretty much how it all started was with Arius.

[@chico9805]

​@@gondola4554We need more of St. Nicholas' attitude - Righteous anger must be exercised againdt these evil people.

[@Allaiya.]

One lady at my church now said she left her previous church because the pastor said the kids didn’t need to read the Bible stories.

[@PatrickMetin]

What mainline Protestantism has become, is really sad.

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

In USA and Europe... Here in Brazil we are fine and growing.

[@PatrickMetin]

@@pedroguimaraes6094 I have never been to Brazil but I believe Evangelical Protestantism is growing there, not the mainline one. Non denominational evangelical churches are growing in the US too.

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

@@PatrickMetin Presbyterianism is growing really fast and it is becoming very influent publicly. We are facing what was the "New Calvinism" in the USA some decades ago. When a Presbyterian minister or Reformed Baptist go to a podcast, It will have more than 1M views. Recently there was a debate about Calvinism vs Arminianism with more than 300k views. However non denomational churches are going too.

[@JustsomerandomnNebraskan11]

I'm an openly Christian and theologically and politically conservative. I'm unpopular, even hated in my school. I thank God that I'm with LCMS and have a place I can go to a place where I can go to worship and honor God without being corrupted by theologically liberal ideas.

[@NorthCarolinian81]

I’m assuming you’re from Nebraska from your handle… but how are you hated for being Conservative in Nevraska of all places?

[@JustsomerandomnNebraskan11]

@@NorthCarolinian81 Public School, in Lincoln. Just today I got shamed for being like 'but they're only one person.' when I heard somebody called 'they'. There are people who like me, but most of them aren't outspoken like me, they're scared.

[@txgsu43]

The LCMS is a mainline denomination. After Seminex the pollsters changed the definition to just “liberal,” but it was largely viewed as mainline before that point.

[@vaukest5888]

@@JustsomerandomnNebraskan11 Lmao I'd bully you too

[@aleenajobi7428]

​@@JustsomerandomnNebraskan11wait, you are a student?

[@grahambrooks4179]

My wife went to a Presbyterian college affiliated with the PCUSA. She said it was definitely hit or miss. Some professors were rock solid reformed, others claimed God is a black woman…great stuff man!

[@kuafer3687]

Bruh, believing in the Trinity is fundamentalist? 😂 It's a theological point who does it harm, wtf?

[@IEatSloths]

Bro the chat just being like "sin is an L fr" is so funny

[@colonelcorn9500]

How can you be Christian and not believe in Christ? Even Muslims believe Jesus existed, they just think he was a prophet of god rather than god himself.

[@WinstonClarke-cz4ic]

Yes, we Muslims even believe Jesus was the Messiah!

[@onshlaught]

I’ve even seen atheists who believe Jesus existed

[@ammazer1229]

Yes Zoomer you are a great singer and should upload a video of you sings the entire Psalter for 200k subs.

[@nerysghemor5781]

On the struggle with God, I think that was too far to say it's okay to undermine our faith. I do think though that if we are angry or frustrated with God, or not understanding something, He WOULD at least rather we vent to him than hold it in. The Psalms are often actually very good examples. They come around in the end but sometimes that honest venting needs to happen first because if you never get it off your chest, you never TELL the Person you're supposed to be seeking a relationship with, it never gets addressed. Relationships where one party is constantly holding back and seething on their own end up toxic and that certainly counts with how we create toxicity between ourselves and God.

[@camelabryan7928]

I love the idea of the more liberal people leaving the PCUSA.

[@philippedersen2411]

9:15 perhaps one of the reasons women shouldn't be pastors...

[@timboslice980]

If you guys ever feel like you want the best of both worlds, traditional yet effective for the lord, check out the Catholic church. If youre a protestant, I guarantee there's something you dont understand about our theology. 9 out of 10 times its a misunderstanding of our faith that causes the protest. You guys seem like the type who like statistics. heres a few centered around Pope francis, too many people have the wrong idea about him. Francis has reigned longer than the 7.5 years average length of the previous 265 pontificates. He has so far visited 60 states and territories, clocking up almost 410,000 km (255,000 miles). Francis created about 900 new saints, including his predecessors John XXIII, John Paul II and Paul IV, as well as Mother Teresa of Calcutta and Salvadoran Archbishop Oscar Romero, who was killed in 1980. An encyclical is the most important form of papal document. Francis wrote three. How about total number of catholics? How has the worldwide Catholic Church changed since then? Statistically speaking, the Church has grown, keeping pace with and even exceeding overall world population growth. The total number of Catholics worldwide grew from ​​1.253 billion in 2013 to 1.378 billion in 2021, an increase of nearly 10%. The watchdog group found that due to mergers and acquisitions over the past 15 years, 14.5 percent of all acute care hospitals in the nation are now either owned by or affiliated with the Catholic church, according to the study. In 10 U.S. states, the number of Catholic hospitals is more than 30 percent. This is probably just the tip of the iceberg... not to mention he's the only world figure to actually try to stop the Ukraine Russia conflict. Instead of trying to reform your mainline churches, maybe try researching our's.

[@gondola4554]

Catholics don't like me around my area. Mainly because of my haircut and the fact I'm a Calvinist.

[@DankusMemicus]

Not all Catholic churches are traditional. From personal experience in Canada, Catholics are the most liberal Christians that I know. It isn't a misunderstanding about your theology, it's a disagreement. Popes don't "create" saints, God does. Muslims brag about Islam being the largest growing (breeding) religion all the time, that doesn't make it true. Many world leaders have tried to stop the Ukraine-Russia conflict, but the Banderites don't want it to end. As someone with Polish heritage, I've heard countless stories of Polish Catholics ending any kind of friendship with my parents once they found out they were Protestants. The Catholic wife of one of the members of our church calls us demons. Is that showing the love of Christ to others? "You will know them by their fruit." Doctrine combined with personal experience with Catholics causes the protest.

[@DavidPrince-l8o]

I worked for your denomination in Louisville for over five years -- the only thing I can say to describe it is this: "You are rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing, but I say unto you that you are poor, miserable, wretched, blind, and dumb because you have left your first love."

[@Cody-5501]

“You can’t tell me what to do with myyyy body” “I’m not telling you what to do with your body God is telling you what not to do with his creation which is both your body and the child’s I’m just the messenger”

[@kaleblam5084]

The way the music stopped at 9:06 when you said you were pro life had me DYING 😂😂😂😂

[@Gunthusiest]

When devout athiests are more consistent with Christianity than "pastors"😂 This is a HUGE issue.

[@resonation6776]

Day 10 asking for a Christian College teir list

[@bushydev2050]

Agreed

[@Lucas_____]

Can i join ur server being catholic

[@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136]

Yes

[@Lucas_____]

@@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 but when i try to join it says that i doesnt have a whitelist

[@knightshade2654]

6:08 I was listening in from another tab (preparing lyric slides for my club's Wednesday worship) and wondered why the sound suddenly stopped right at you were about to bless us with your singing. I found an even greater blessing after clicking over.

[@electrolytics]

Stay strong Zoomer. I get inspired by your videos. Thank you.

[@N8R_Quizzie]

Look I know this is against your operation, but maybe these mainline denominations are meant to die out. Just thinking about your old pastor's Easter Sunday message I would have been so angry

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

If they die, there is no hope of reviving the West, and then you'll have to deal with your children and grandchildren getting transitioned

[@stefanwalicord2512]

​@redeemedzoomer6053 I don't think the hope of the West lies in traditional Protestant denominational structures. Faithful Christianity will continue to exist even if the PCUSA doesn't. That's not to say it's not worth fighting for, but the point stands that's it's hardly the heart of American Christianity at this point. That being said, it would be far better if they repented than if they didn't.

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

@@stefanwalicord2512 no man, you need to understand the importance of the INSTITUTIONAL church. There’s more to Christianity than simply the sum of all believers

[@chico9805]

​@@redeemedzoomer6053Very true. There's a reason why our enemy has targeted the institution, instead of individual believers. Once they've fully hijacked the Church, then they'll round up the rest of us.

[@sleepatterns]

The political liberalism can definitely be a problem at some of our churches, but as a Catholic it’s extremely bizarre for me to hear about actual pastors and priests in other denominations actually questioning or even going as far as denying things like the Resurrection… I don’t know what I would think if I heard that in church. What is the purpose of any of it at that point The theological liberalism is trying to seep it’s way into Catholicism as well though unfortunately, just look at “Fr.” James Martin.

[@BobBob-fm6oo]

How can some "Christians"* know less about Christianity than some Athiests? *probably not actually

[@nicholasperez9745]

"In my denomination, it's often like, 'We're not sure if God exists, but we are sure he supports LGBTQ.'" That is the best quote ever. Literally LOL.

[@BOMBI77766]

Anglican Church of Aoteroa New Zealand, the last priest in charge we had preached said that Jesus was racist to the syro phonecian women, but it's ok because he repented, (repenting implies Sin, and is Jesus sinned he isn't the one perfect sacrifice for the sin of the world, and so cannot save us).

[@fedsavi]

Hey, I’m a marxist and I watch your videos because I’m interested in religion despite being an atheist. I’ve always found your points smart and well-argued, but the cultural marxism stuff just isn’t true. Cultural marxists do exist in the sense that marxists believe that cultural hegemony is necessary for a socialist society, and I believe that too, but cultural marxists in the sense of people trying to infiltrate institutions is a conspiracy theory first invented by Nazi Germany to slander Jews and Communists at the same time by saying that the Soviet Union was controlled by Jews. So as someone who could, in good faith, be described as a “cultural” marxist, I assure you that no-one has ever infiltrated religious organizations as a part of an intentional and organized attempt to “derail” them. This goes for all major communist internationales and their member parties. If anyone wants to learn more just look cultural marxism up on Wikipedia or watch Hbomberguy’s videos on the topic which are great.

[@jessealexander7455]

actually, that's not quite true. The Soviets pressured the Russian Orthodox church to accept a few KGB agents into their hierarchy and then sent them as representatives to the World Council of Churches. That's pretty well documented. Not unlike China sending researchers into universities. But to your point, the conspiracy theories are a bit much.

[@dantosinferne]

What the hell do you mean there are pastors in christian churches who deny the ressurection? Holy shit, has it actually gotten that nutty out there that something like that is even possible? A non-christian christian pastor? What? Christ almighty, that makes me want to convert...wtf....

[@driver34579]

I find it hilarious that Reconquista was forgotten because basically everyone just converted to Catholicism

[@affinityxs]

I find it so petty that you have to say father Abraham had many daughters. Just say father Abraham had many children! That's more inclusive without over catering to the theologically liberal

[@Speedfish-lx3rv]

I’m trying to pick a Presbyterian denomination in the USA that is conservative I don’t know if I’m going to PCUSA

[@DrGero15]

What miracle did your grandma do?

[@not_milk]

For the lady who said the concept of the trinity is incongruent with the Jewish religion: 1. In the Babylonian Targums, the Memra (word) of God is shown as a distinct person representative of Yahweh. And then at times identified as one in the same with Yahweh in certain passages. 2. Philo was a Jewish philosopher who wrote about the logos as a person of God. My understanding of his representation of God is that it was more binitarian, but not really exclusive of more persons. 3. Kabbalah has the tree of life with numerous names making up the godhead. It's probably a little more modalist and I don't fully understand the nuances of it, but it is analogous to the trinity in that, a trinitarian representation is not at all contrary to Judaism.

[@justpurestupinity401]

this may cause a lot of backlash but i really dont like theologically liberal churches

[@PerpetualJoy]

Hearing about a PASTOR calling an unborn child a parasite is craazyyyy. Literally speaking (as a pregnant woman) they do feed off of you, you have to take vitamins, eat more, take care of yourself in specific ways. But like, I bet that pastor wouldnt call a sick, disabled, elderly, infirm, or homeless person a parasite (as they shouldn't!). Babies need us. We will eventually need them. Life is symbiotic. People with needs (including babies) are not parasites.

[@mr.hi3219]

As an Orthodox, it’s really sad to see these other denominations get corrupted. I hope you are successful in helping save your denomination. My prayers will be with you.

[@darthyall841]

9:27 You should have responded “Was Jesus a parasite when He was in Mary’s womb?”

[@KoiDotJpeg]

Coming to this video after I attended a Presbetarian church for the first time. I walk in, first thing I see? 2 flags at the very front, right along the front place where they conduct worship. One flag is a PRIDE FLAG with a cross on top, the other is a flag with symbols from SEVERAL OTHER RELIGIONS on it. Come to find out they are LGBT affirming. NOPE! This church used Tibetan singing bowl's to signal a transition to music, and they had a bunch lying around, which was weird and gave off New Age nonsense vibes. THEN they had a FIVE MINUTE meditation session where at one point the leader said "Feel the weight of your body, the gravity pulling you down. That is quite literally mother earth giving you a big hug" Which sent alert signals to me and felt like a huge New Age move. I did really like the worship and the friendliness, and the ambience of the whole place... But no way am I going back there. Hopefully my next Presbyterian Church visit is good... otherwise I may try out an Anglican Church or default back to Baptist churches since at the very least they tend to be theologically conservative (even though I don't agree with all the values like Young Earth Creationism)

[@therepublicofwozmania]

I’m a Lutheran but I’m ashamed of the ELCA’s theological liberalism. It’s not what Martin Luther stood for.

[@dionhouston]

My brother - you are such an encouragement to me! I'm sorry you had such a horrible experience with some of the worst elements of our denomination. I'm in seminary to help make a change. Keep on keeping on!

[@hardcorejab]

Thank GOD I left the PCUSA for the Catholic Church. Hope you can find the way too.

[@s1q213]

You'll find Orthodoxy to be true I'm sure

[@akiva1168]

Francis is ruining it currently. I hope the cardinals put their foot down

[@theintelligentmilkjug944]

Hot take There's no one true church.

[@LucaPorro2002]

Simon, son of Jonas, Feed my lambs. John 21:15 Brothers and sisters, This Is The Word of God.

[@dominicewing8940]

​@@akiva1168he's actually not. There's a lot of misinformation out there about him. I'm not his biggest fan, but I do realize a lot of people are misinformed about him, misquote him, or take his words out of context. That being said one of the issues I have with him is he's often very ambiguous which leaves a lot of confusion typically.

[@MrPrinceofallsaiyan]

I was starting to visit a Presbyterian church but there is no consistency from church to church, in one church they are like a church should be but the next one is full of blasphemy and heresy…im honestly loosing my faith pray for me(added: even becoming discouraged to continue looking for a church all together)

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

Your faith should be in Jesus and in the Bible and not in a specific Church. Hopefully we don't have that same problem in the Presbyterian Church of Brazil. I think that there are more conservative Presbyterian denominations in USA.

[@MrPrinceofallsaiyan]

@pedroguimaraes6094 Thanks for those words and reminding me what is the true importance of congregation

[@TAYZER_]

Try a reformed church!

[@caesars_top_guy]

9:05 Holy crap i literally cringed just imagining a Woman unironically saying that to you loool

[@paulsulpice1077]

"San Diego is very liberal" -found the non-Californian

[@matthewsmith2078]

The situation you are describing put me on a path straight to Rome for five years- I actually converted- I’m Anglican now

[@EsperantoDelta]

Can you please link the server? I was planning to start making tutorials for different buildings, and I thought that I could build a nice Catholic church on the server

[@leviisaac9279]

Hey Zoomer, do you have any thoughts on the Living Waters ministry? They do a great focus on evangelism and presenting the Gospel to unbelievers but they’re not very ecumenical. They also kinda fit into the “MacArthurite” and “Answers in Genesis” type spheres of influences.

[@mandiocatostada3859]

yes yes, now BEGOME MARONITE

[@claracaporali9850]

May the Lord save us from all this heretic nonsense 😭

[@fighterofthenightman1057]

Leftism is a problem that needs solved in the Mainline denominations, but I don’t want them to become too conservative, either. My ELCA Lutheran church is very moderate and doesn’t delve into SJW stuff OR politics in the other direction … and that’s how I want it!

[@chico9805]

So, in other words instead of addressing the issue, you want to pretend it doesn't exist. 'Fool' doesn't even begin to describe you.

[@fighterofthenightman1057]

@@chico9805 Only a fool takes what I said and comes up with your comment. There is plenty of room for sensible people, aka people who are theologically moderate, in Christianity. I don’t want my church to become infested with low IQ fundamentalists. And you somehow take this to mean I want to pretend issues don’t exist, lol. I’m not a Biblical literalist (a position I find monumentally stupid), and I don’t want those types in our church. I also don’t want SJW radicals who deny the divinity of Christ. Both are just not very thoughtful or intelligent…

[@CooperTheGoosebumpsGuy]

Amen❤🎉😊🍞🙏😊🍷🎉🕊️😀✝️😇❤️

[@AndrewEtmus]

So, this pastor used a Bible verse to argue that we should not believe in the Bible? That’s… something lol

[@scottyskywalker5768]

To clarify as a non presbytairen, san diego County Resident, the downtown area is liberal but overall, the rural areas are very conservative .

[@zaid_____abd___]

yo, could you do a video explaining why you reject Islam and Judaism?

[@Blaaake]

You should go to the chat settings and downsize the chat a bit. It’s quite large.

[@HeartlessConservativ]

My episcopal bishop invited a Lutheran pastor (both women) to speak from the pulpit during mass about the importance of abortion.