Insecure Shadiversity ATTACKS Fellow Swordtuber Sellsword Arts

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[@SellswordArts]

I'm glad that most people seem to have understood my original message 😊

[@_____Astral_____]

oh based, hey sellsword

[@carrias1]

Honestly pisses me off that shad came for someone so wholesome

[@dorianleakey]

Is it hard staying calm with these unhinged rants be delivered? You seem calm about it, but I almost feel like you should be at least careful, they seem, not grounded in reality

[@justanidiotmk2749]

We rise to assist like dark souls summons

[@CapitalismSuxx]

I used to follow shad back in his macholication days but when he started whining about his garbage writings I noped out asap. I'll give you a follow.

[@verager2493]

Sellsword's "LGBT content" is a flag in the background in one of the gyms he practices in

[@marxist-leninist-protagonist]

phobe brainrot is too real

[@carrias1]

Nah, he’s also incredibly pretty.

[@davidtaylor142]

Literally jusy being a normal guy

[@paulsmart4672]

@@carrias1 Hah. I guess he does kind of give a vibe.

[@paulsmart4672]

The outrage in response to that is an insight into what sort of dullard is impressed by Shad.

[@argentandroid5732]

Shadiversity really is the gift that keeps on giving, no matter how much you try to return it.

[@Daneuwill]

is he? only thing that is continuing is hate for shad. i dont care for him or even watch his content, but everyone is continuing this drama for nothing more than views, this video for example at the time i posted this comment, has 15k more veiws than anything Actual Jake has posted in the past month, other than shad hate videos mind you. to attack a mans faith by calling him a "typical Mormon misogynist" is very toxic in itself. and shouldn't be promoted by all of these offended tribesmen in the comments

[@fanime1]

@@Daneuwill did you seriously write an entire paragraph defending a guy who wrote essentially a rape fantasy novel?

[@Daneuwill]

@@fanime1 like I said, I don’t care for him, I don’t know him, the paragraph is self explanatory and not in defense of Shadiversity, honestly couldn’t care less

[@jesusrodriguez4849]

Did you actually read the novel or did you just learn about the novel from a youtube comment and now insist that. Because i didn't get that impression at all from the book which also has a visual novel and a short film in production. I would think that a book as horrible as you describe wouldn't have had that much success. @fanime1

[@bealotcoolerifyoudid7217]

😂 good one

[@AlexSilver9]

All I'm getting out of this video is Shad is to the sword community what Quarterpounder is to the Magic the Gathering community.

[@jajasi4752]

That is a comparison that I am definitely going to steal to use when talking about this guy because it is too accurate 😂😂

[@paulsmart4672]

I think what's actually going on here is Shad is to the HEMA community what Shad is to the art community: A guy who is unwilling to put in all the time and effort that true mastery demands, and who is intensely jealous and resentful of everyone who *was* willing.

[@jesusrodriguez4849]

Not really . Shad is an author and more just an overall historical nerd then a professional swordsman. However, unlike the guy who posted this clip and swordsart shad deals with accusations front on and doesn't hide his opinions which more often than not leads him into drama like this. This "reaction" video from shad was more of a self promotion and a redo of an older video than it was a genuine attack against swordsart. Shad even links and recommends swordarts videos (probably just to drive home his original point). The people shad talks to are just the other people who are part of shads videos(his co-host) phrasing them as just some old dude is rather ironic as shad didn't take this as an attack of his person but as an argument against his channel and his content. Shad isn't a major supporter of HEMA despite having p[practiced it in ages past and his focus is less swords and just combat overall hence his finding distaste in swordarts video

[@aspiringscientificjournali1505]

Not quite right coaching is a specialty People who are great coaches are not always any good at the game But these are people who are in The sport actively communicating with fighters While testing and failing and succeeding Coaching is its own art

[@schibleh531]

@@jesusrodriguez4849 Professional yapper.

[@PoetryAvenger]

Holy shit, that comment on screen at 25:00 absolutely sent me. The sheer delusion of calling anyone OTHER THAN Shadiversity "the Steven Segal of the KZbin sword world".

[@vksasdgaming9472]

At least C-Gal has real martial arts competence. His other idiocies are different story.

[@Draconianoverlord55]

Shad is a writer and has some fun videos, why does his ass hurt so bad when an actual martial artist talks about his stuff, shad seems to be a mcdojo kind of guy sadly

[@Loukaiyss]

Now that's unfair to Segal.

[@joshuafreeman3609]

I really like Sellsword arts, because while he’s mostly focused on realistic sword stuff and pokes fun at fantasy swordsmanship, it comes from a place of affection and he doesn’t take it too seriously like some people. He’s got good vibes. The exact opposite of Shad.

[@wacawaka1802]

I can’t stand him because he’s a homophobic bigot

[@alexj-t2331]

Lmao at the comment about him promoting LGBTQ when HEMA alliances tend to be very queer friendly spaces. L

[@reaverfang377]

Are they? Giga Based.

[@frankheninja1]

@@reaverfang377every HEMA club I’ve been a part of has a large contingent of queer fencers, and explicitly include inclusively language in the club charter. My personal best friend I’ve made in the community is a bisexual woman who is married to another bisexual woman. It’s incredibly common.

[@Mercadian]

The largest HEMA club here in Melbourne is explicitly pro-LGBTQ. Shad's from my state, so he doesn't show up to nearly all events of the actual local sword community.

[@fangsabre]

​​@@reaverfang377there are a lot of queer historical weapons fanatics It's a surprisingly common special interest for lonely nerds who want to be less lonely. I say that with love as one of them lol

[@Hurricayne92]

@@Mercadian I remember wondering back in the day why he wasnt seen at Swordcraft, now it all makes sense.

[@kurtacus3581]

A reminder that Shadiversity is a guy that complains about WOKE Hollywood teaching little girls bad things, meanwhile in his own book the protagonist sexually assaults of hundreds of women are justified and forgiven because some of those victims had children from it and those women like their children so apparently it couldnt be that bad...im not joking, that is what happens. Edit: by the way, many of these SA victims were children

[@hand13932]

shocking. its almost like all this complaining about "woke" shit is actually a virtue signal toward his audience of alt right apes who eat that shit up like candy

[@GarfielddGarfield]

Holy shit, that’s actually disgusting, like what the actual fuck. Like, have the decency of labeling yourself as non-con erotic fiction before making your protagonist a fucking rapist. At least then people will know how fucked up the story’s morality is.

[@av2674]

That book is such a huge self-report it's difficult to explain it without reading it one-self.

[@JL0ndon]

That foul. Shad is garbage on all levels

[@carrias1]

@@av2674TRUE

[@disastideas5209]

Shad has been invited to train at his local HEMA club repeatedly and I'm not even sure he bothers to turn them down anymore You can not overstate how unseriously he is taken by anyone who has even a modicum of experience with historical fencing, Sellsword is actually giving him so much grace here it's wild. Like Bill Nye debating a fringe flat earther. That level.

[@disastideas5209]

Oh, and the other people he mentioned are similarly irrelevant

[@aralornwolf3140]

Like Bill Nye talking to Fucker Carlson nearly 20 years ago... you mean?

[@bacaestrife3615]

I remember when Shad tried to claim a bunch of things about the Japanese sword making techniques, based purely on crap he pulled out of his ass, and one of the actual sword smiths, trained in those techniques, at Man At Arms did a response to it. He pulled on his own knowledge, and pulled out various historical references in research done on the subject and what not. Like in reality the reason the Japanese invented such amazing sword making techniques is because the quality of the material they were working with, IE iron sand, was very poor. So they created all these techniques to turn low quality iron sand into good quality steel, and it was extremely innovative at the time. It isn't because their techniques are superior to western techniques, it's because their base material was lower quality so required more work to make into something good. He just got ripped into about the whole thing and made to look like a fool. All cause he couldn't help but run his mouth about something he didn't understand fully.

[@feralguyver]

Was it Ilyia?

[@Lobster_Lars]

I thought the whole low-quality ore was basic knowledge, how the fuck did shad not know this

[@bacaestrife3615]

@@feralguyver Yes, yes it was.

[@AFatWhiteShark]

Misconceptions About Medieval Steel - Wootz vs Bloom Was the name of the response video from Ilya

[@ActualJake]

Holy shit even Ilya has done a takedown on shad? I used to love man at arms - Sarah

[@joetheschmoe1066]

Shad: Guys Im a super serious sword fighter too. Also Shad: makes a sad video about how hes being bullied while holding a ridiculous, poorly made, darthmaul prop sword, thing.

[@Mr.potato-d9d]

I wish I could like this comment like 5 million times more W take 😂

[@smjaiteh]

Shad irritates me so much. How can someone successful enough that he gets to larp 24/7 as a fantasy knight literally for the rest of his life be such an obnoxious and insecure loser?

[@dynamicworlds1]

Being part of a cult can't help.

[@boogerman908]

Suffering from success

[@richardmarin2538]

Because money can't fix what's broken in you.

[@user-th1pv6ks5o]

Mormons do be like Dat sometimes.

[@JohnDoe-xv9du]

People thought he was someone who was passionate about something so he literally learnt about it. Turns out he's at best a right wing pop culture critic

[@jeremiahbullfrog226]

Shad was the first swordguy I started watching, and I was mostly into his educational videos about designs and forging, and sometimes he dabbled into historical progression of armor and weapon systems, which I thought was interesting, but thankfully he was my gateway into people who did his kind of content better, or were more dedicated to those specific niches, because since his main channel is the only one I ever followed, and I didn't follow him on social media, I had no idea he was such a goofy culture war weirdo until like maybe a year or so ago.

[@bleakautomaton4808]

His beef with this other swordsman has no piqued my interest in sellsword arts' channel. Lol

[@jeremiahbullfrog226]

@@bleakautomaton4808 Most of what I've seen from Sellsword are random shorts of him doing HEMA demonstrations, and it's pretty neat

[@dynamicworlds1]

To my knowledge Skallagrim and Matt Easton are still cool. I don't watch much of that kind of content anymore, though, so it's possible there's drama I missed.

[@SkullOfTheRaven]

@@dynamicworlds1 Matt actually distanced himself from Shad recently because of who Shad is as a person, same with Skall a bit so yeah they're definitely still good

[@joetheschmoe1066]

Tbf his goofy culture war side didnt start until about a year ago 😂. Its honestly the reason I disrespect him even more, cuz it feels like he doesnt even believe half of it and just says it for the reaction farming.

[@BenjaminGlatt]

Shad hits me as the kinda dude who'll berate you for not knowing the difference between a claymore and a Zweihänder but also calls the fuller a "blood groove".

[@petrfedor1851]

That reminds me when he reacted to trailer on movie about most famous Hussite leaders and thought Rosenberg rose was Tudors.

[@valandil7454]

Shad hasn't got a clue what a Claymore is 😒 That 2 handed fantasy thing he bought's nothing like what anyone's ever called a Claymore, I'm British a Claymore's a fairly modern single handed basket hilted sword

[@thiccboisincorporated7136]

@@valandil7454Now to be fair I don’t know what Shad’s Claymore looks like so if it is a super fantasy design then I don’t blame your criticism, but people have just associated the name Claymore for the old two-handed Claidheamh-Mòr. The basket hilt sword is more accurately a Claymore considering the swords of it’s time, but people have just switched the name of the two. It’s strange, but they both technically fit the category of “broad”sword.

[@McBlazington]

​@@thiccboisincorporated7136 wrong. A Claymore is actually an explosive directional mine.

[@DavidEllis94]

​@@valandil7454Claymore also refers to, in effect, a Scottish form of the longsword, maybe a bit outsized but otherwise just a Scottish form of longsword.

[@jtheconqueror121]

I’m not surprised. Shad had a two hour meltdown over a two minute clip of his being criticized in a video which wasn’t even focused on his work exclusively. He’s just an insecure loser who thinks he’s the best thing ever.

[@Bezaliel13]

They mocked him for... not committing murder with a sword? Gee, I wonder why he has never murdered someone with a swor-wait, has Shad?

[@neoqwerty]

I think the only thing Shad's murdered was his own credibility.

[@Bezaliel13]

@@neoqwerty True, but that was not by a sword.

[@paulsmart4672]

Yeah, that part's bizarre. "How can you claim expertise in swords when you've never been in a REAL WAR!?!?!?" My guy. We don't use swords in wars anymore. Being in a real war is not gonna learn someone how to use a sword.

[@reverenddmo8944]

He's murdered a few pizzas by the look of him... oh, wait, that's just his gambeson. My bad.

[@aralornwolf3140]

No one has experienced true warfare with swords and other such weapons being primary weapons in over a 100 years.The only place that I recall swords being used in recent history was in Rwanda... Prior to that it was WWI trench warfare which also had grenades, maces, bayoneted rifles, pistols and flamethrowers... If the only people who could talk about sword usage in battle, because of experience, then we should be listening to what a bunch of murderers who only practiced their swordsmanship on defenseless women and children have to say... which is no experience at all when it comes to _historical_ fights. :/

[@nickhoffman9256]

The irony of this man getting upset because he thought someone suggested that he may not be the best guy to listen to on sword use and him responding by huffing copium whilst walking through his garden in full medievel regalia carrying a TWO HANDED DOUBLESWORD is unreal. This is pure comedic gold.

[@christophergreen6595]

I used to watch some of his content... including the double is just WEIRD... like, it was supposed to be a joke sword. Why do you parade it like this?

[@Maerahn]

Lol yeah. "What now? This man INSULTED me? I mean, he didn't specifically reference ME, but... I just KNOW he MEANT me because -- um, well, anyway... THIS SHALL NOT STAND! I will EVISCERATE this man in the form of video footage! Ready thy camera, minion, for I intend to stroll menacingly up and down in front of my defunct theme park castle panels, spitting cutting verbal barbs while holding two eBay swords taped back-to-back, like a Rennaissance Darth Maul!"

[@mckenzie.latham91]

The fact he literally said that you don't need to be an expert to tell people how to use stuff Is hilarious

[@Mrwizard-ck7oe]

Average conservative coping that normal people aren't willing to associate with psychopaths in their communities

[@Statuselderberry-i8u]

Mostly conservative guy here,yeah we don’t claim him this isn’t conservatism it’s insanity

[@gregchezick7757]

After watching full reviews of Shad's book, I firmly believe that Shad believes that r*pe is only bad because God tells him it is.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

But as soon as he thinks or can claim gods okay with it he will do it

[@wacawaka1802]

Sellsword only defends lgbtq because it benifits him.

[@LPVince94]

​@@mckenzie.latham91 He would if he was physically able to. Dude doesn't seem like he's able to overpower his would be victim to begin with.

[@austina4104]

Rape was portrayed as bad during the whole book. It was like the biggest regret of the main character the whole time lol that is a pretty outlandish claim you’re making there just basing it off negative reviews 😂

[@mckenzie.latham91]

​@@austina4104 Ah yes regrets the rape part But then enters a sexual relationship with a former child rape slave whose his main love interest And the literal trial scene has all the rape victims who had kids admit that having the kids was the best outcome And all the ones who didn't have kids are portrayed as upset that they didn't get a silver lining for themselves out of it. It is almost as blatant propaganda as you can do

[@Judokastt]

He can't even let his brother who is an actual artist be better than him. So he went and "learned" AI art and then called himself a professional artist who is "JuSt As GoOd" as his brother and you can't say otherwise. It's beyond pathetic.

[@hanzquejano7112]

Jazza is better and more good looking than him.

[@valandil7454]

Yeah I've only just seen him say that, he's not just mental he actually made me go "whattt?" 😧 That's his brother. His brother's an educated artist. His poor brother, that was worse than anything he'd ever said before 😒

[@kermitthorson9719]

@23:35 we can see why shad really hates this guy, he supports pride

[@wacawaka1802]

Sellsword is a homophobic loser who calls gay people homophobic and tells them he can’t be since he’s bi

[@stefanlvkc7986]

Neckbeard LARPer Shad v. someone who actually practices using a sword...JFC he wants to much to be cool but he just can't help himself.

[@lady_draguliana784]

you can't learn ANY skill without DOING a skill.

[@boogerman908]

No do only skill. No take only throw. Lmao

[@jaybee4118]

I don’t totally agree. My dad taught a friend’s child how to play the violin without ever playing the violin. He got her through several levels of exams with flying colours. He did play guitar and could read music, so he had an understanding of stringed instruments, but he’d never used a bow. This was long before KZbin too. I don’t think it’s something everyone can do though.

[@SkullOfTheRaven]

@@jaybee4118 Tbf there arent huge differences between how you play a guitar and how you play a violin, so he already practiced like 70% of the skill

[@АртёмДубравин-ы6у]

Both have strings and are shaped like a lady silhouette with a big butt ​its just that you wack one with a stick and the other with your hand. @looyoo7608

[@ragingdevi]

💯% right

[@seraphonica]

there's big mad... and then there's big Shad mad. it's basically the same except he hurts himself in his confusion

[@ItsJustN8]

Having met Shad, it totally tracks that he'd get really butthurt and insecure assuming everyone is talking about him lol

[@hanzquejano7112]

How was it?

[@jankopransky2551]

Spill some tea! Come on! Pretty please 🙏

[@GuyInnagorillasuit]

Shad has been a shitshow from the beginning. As a historical fencer it was immediately apparent that he didn't know his shit, but my opinion of him dropped even further when he started his Knights' Watch shitshow. Pomous and insecure is a really bad look and that's Shad in a nutshell.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

I disagree. He started as actually fun source of info. Then he started showing his arrogance and spitefulness and killed his credibility real fast. In hindsight his level of knowledge was very shallow as well. Him starting as legitimate and then choosing to be arrogant idiot makes him doubly despicable.

[@n0etic_f0x]

He has to beef with everyone. He did it with a few people, Skallagrim being the most noteworthy. Skallagrim was lust like... stop being lame because Skallagrim was just being respectful (allegedly? to women?) though that is mainly just what Shad was reading into, Skallagrim was just being nice to people in general, men and women.

[@jeremiahbullfrog226]

I remembered them arguing about the Barbie movie, where Skall called him out for being embarrassing for being so upset over a Barbie movie.

[@n0etic_f0x]

@@jeremiahbullfrog226 That makes sense, I got only part of it where Shad calls out Skall for mindlessly defending women and Skall being confused about what point he was trying to make.

[@FreebirthBoccara]

well. to shad men and women are completely different species that need to be treated differently or else. like.. society collapses or something.

[@billy_werber]

I sure hope those women respecting allegations aren't true. I'd hate to believe that Skallagrim respects women. Next you'll hear about how he donates to the homeless. 😱

[@RexOedipus.]

​@@billy_werberi swear if allegations come out that he loves his wife(fiancee?)

[@docterfantazmo]

"If you don't practice the art you shouldn't claim to be an expert." *Shad the AI "artist":* "And I took that personally."

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Shad has also lost all credbility with the sword community Somewhat because of his recent flare for far right politics But also because of stuff like this Where he is so insecure and such a narcissist, that he attacks and argues with everyone He literally has attacked other experts and etc and lamented how they got stuff wrong and he's right Next to no one in the community from what i've seen takes him seriously.

[@wacawaka1802]

Hey where did you talked to me before? Or were you just defending a homophobe?

[@mckenzie.latham91]

@@wacawaka1802 Sweetie you clearly aren’t worth even a passing conversation with.

[@wacawaka1802]

@@mckenzie.latham91 you didn’t is the answer.

[@DeathEatsCurry]

Sellsword Arts is an absolute gem in the sword video community. He's entertaining, knowledgeable, and strikes a great balance between debunking media/popular portrayal of swordsmanship and validating the rule of cool. Shadiversity is a glorified lolcow with absolutely zero qualification that's managed to churn out such poor content, that it's retroactively tainted whatever valid content he made in the past.

[@aureliodeprimus8018]

Where did you get that nice Bowser profile pic? And i agree about Shad "Mor(m)on" Brooks.

[@argentandroid5732]

This comment should be pinned. 100% correct.

[@DeathEatsCurry]

@@aureliodeprimus8018 Made it myself yeaaaaars ago, by combining an image of the House Stark emblem from GoT and the Paper Mario:TTYD Bowser sprite.

[@dumat100]

Yeah, I see Shads vids sometimes in my feeds, and almost all of them are "All your favorite fantasy weapons are actually real and work." His vids are just nerd masturbation material now.

[@zenbear9952]

Watch this guy and Skallagrim if you're interested in this stuff. Avoid Shad and Metatron.

[@Toy_Tomb]

This has gotta be one of Shads most embarrassing blunders, this charming respectful man made a video about sword KZbin and Shad dropped to the ground like a child and threw a fit. If this isn’t him farming for views then I think he’s at an all time low

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

He really wants people to take him seriously with that Home Depot dual blade.

[@ved2360]

The American HEMA scene actually has a ton of cringe nerds like this. The important distinction is they don't have Shad's ego nor pretend to be doing anything but fooling around.

[@jadencrawford2772]

That sounds like a wholesome kind of cringe

[@Mercadian]

He's Australian (from my state too, and NOT well-regarded here), so it's Bunnings, not Home Depot :P

[@connorl9546]

​@@Mercadian by the look of him he goes to bunnings mostly for the snags

[@Alma-bs7un]

I KNOW WHY SHAD HAD TO BRING OUT HIS DUMB DOUBLE SWORD THING... "mine is bigger than yours"😂😭😭😭😭😭

[@ShithéadOConnor]

There's a HEMA club in my town, and I got into it for a while - it's fucking insane how gassed you get after just sparring for a minute. It's a lot of fun, but definitely attracts some "characters" to say the least. And yeah, you should prioritize advice about doing a thing that comes from people who do the thing, how is that even a question.

[@ved2360]

I used to be able to go harder a few years ago, but my stamina has fallen off a cliff somehow. Guess I need to work on my aerobics again.

[@broadcastbard]

I always appreciate learning which content creators don't like Shad so I know which channels to support.

[@jonnytorres664]

Its really funny to me bc Sellsword arts its literally talking abt bare minium standards for historical research or ANY research for that matter. Just because you like to do cosplay doesnt mean we gotta hear you about medieval swords or anything for that matter. Sellswords really said: lets have a standards and Shad was puking, shitting and crying.

[@joearnold6881]

If I want to learn about what it was really like in 2023 to duct tape two toy swords to a shelf bracket, I know which expert to listen to.

[@Piterdeveirs333]

Shad is so vain he literally thinks that song is about him

[@sethmiller2532]

Underrated joke

[@TwinHuginHelmet]

I'm so glad we've got that song on a CD on repeat at work, otherwise I would not have caught that.

[@optillian4182]

He's so shallow, he probably thinks this quip is about him.

[@joearnold6881]

I still remember when he tied to call Jack Saint a liar and evil person, and they just went thru his whole thing disproving virtually everything he said in his hours long rant

[@reform-revolution]

imagine losing a duel to a cuckold of house gay

[@amethystimagination3332]

I love that people are calling him a LARPer and saying “you’ve never fought in battle and put your life on the line” as if that’s not the most larpy thing you could possibly say.

[@jankopransky2551]

I feel the need to say that Shad would be a nutjob looser even among us larpers, at least here in europe (where larp is generaly taken more seriously, and is generaly queer friendly)

[@Bentothethird]

He made the stupid double sword thing for a video about darth maul. Or maybe it was about the twinsword from dnd. Also "I'm still close with metatron" yeah dude of course you are. He's a bigot.

[@SkullOfTheRaven]

Metatron's a bigot? For some reason that doesn't feel accurate

[@Khornelia]

​@@SkullOfTheRavenNope he definitely is.

[@Zarastro54]

@@KhorneliaIn what way? I haven’t seen much of him but I never got the feeling that he was a bigot.

[@Khornelia]

@@Zarastro54 westside tyler did some videos on him, he's pretty unhinged. His twitter manifestos also speak for themselves.

[@Zarastro54]

@@Khornelia Okay, I’ll take a look.

[@XanDerSon88]

Shad is that guy from that reddit post that wanted his wife to call him a pilot cause he spent most of his spare time in a flight simulator

[@martin2289]

Couldn't be a more stark difference between someone who's authentic and someone who's most obviously not.

[@LatencyProblem]

Skallagrim doesnt like Shad? Good

[@joetheschmoe1066]

The funny part is skall never even said that. If hes talking about the same thing I saw them "beefing" on, all that happened was Skall retweeted a meme making fun of shads bad takes, and shad got butthurt. Then Shad went on a giant rant about how skall betrayed him as a friend. Which then lead to skall respectfully deleting the tweets to keep the peace, after basically saying "sorry shad, were not friends tho, were just youtubers with a similar niche were not really that close but whatever." And Shad has taken that as the ultimate betrayal.

[@DuelistKoi93]

​@joetheschmoe1066 the idea of Shad being giga parasocial and weird to Skallagrim while he is just vibing and trying to be diplomatic and chill (ya know, like an adult) is so fucking funny to me.

[@KingOpenReview]

​@@joetheschmoe1066 You should put a trigger warning before exposing people to that level of second hand embarrassment.

[@Mercadian]

And apparently Matt Easton (who I respect) doesn't like him either because of his "conservative viewpoints"? That just makes me like Matt more.

[@paulsmart4672]

@@Mercadian I think there's a conversation to be had about whether Shad was *actually* raised in some kind of deeply regressive and misanthropic community/religion, or if he's from a moderately liberal religion/community and just blaming the fact that he's a shithead on his upbringing.

[@TreiberSeptim]

I love how Shad, despite just being a terrible person, just keeps getting himself into situations like these, which are entirely caused by his insecurities.

[@kangstakangsta]

I never understood the appeal behind a lolcow, but there's just something about Shad... I just can't look away from all his bad takes and fragile ego. It's glorious. And i regret every minute i wasted on this shit.

[@rustkitty]

How do you know if a presenter is worth listening to? He is not shady(versity). Thank you, thank you! I will be here all night...

[@NicholasMarshall]

15:19 does Shad not understand that it's not his religion people have a problem with, it's his bigotry?

[@chillinsquirtle]

Eh as an ex mormon we should have issues with that cult, like all cults

[@ved2360]

I take issue with religion generally. The problem is that people like Shadiversity thinks that I'm singling him out specifically. As an anti-theist, my view of the world is that you are just not that special. There is almost no difference between how a huffy neo-Pagan behaves versus a Mormon versus a Protestant versus a Buddhist. The problem is systematic and structural. No, don't tell me how I don't understand your rich centuries-old tradition, I don't care.

[@chillinsquirtle]

@@ved2360 mormonism isn't even 200 years old yet, just 6 more years

[@ved2360]

@@chillinsquirtle Paganism in its current iteration is barely more than a hundred. But honestly, it isn't the pedigree that makes religion respectable. It's that Protestantism or Presbyterianism or whatever is basically a cultural default, so for a lot of people it's just the path of least resistance, not a larp or an attempt to be especially antisocial, quirky or live out an escapist fantasy. It _can_ be, but just as often as not, it's just what they were raised on. Like I can't practically get mad at just a Joe Random Protestant for basically fitting in. But American Buddhist, I suspect, don't actually understand Buddhism. And tons of pagans and neo-pagans will straight-up tell you they can cast spells or do Chaos Magic and I'm really very tired about hearing about yet another religion claiming knowledge of some special esoterica that lets them indulge in the same inane escapism as Christianity.

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@ved2360, Lol. I'm an Anti-Theist because theology is harmful. Yet, some use it as their copium when a trained therapist would be better. :/ People don't like Shad, not because his of his religion, its because of his bigotry and his welcoming of Ethno-Nationalists... like WhatifAltHistory and Sargon of Akkad. Of course, he's also a huge crybaby due to his insecurities... Jazza released a video nearly 3 months ago in which he describes his own religious trauma... and how that effects him on the emotional level... it wouldn't surprise me that Shad also has similar trauma and his way to deal with said trauma just comes out as narcissism. It sad... but... Shad is still supportive of his religion despite the damage it has done to him and his borther.

[@syndicalist-0]

Shad tried doing some HEMA sparring once years ago on video... and was not good at all. He knows hes a liar and the truth terrifies him.

[@rustkitty]

"I thought he was married, [...] I don't see a ring." It doesn't mean anything, Shad is a Mormon. They can wear a wedding ring but it's not required nor as religiously significant as with Christians. You can check Shadiversity videos from years back and he has never worn a ring. I bet he is super strict about his wife wearing one though, to signify ownership...

[@widdershinscryptid]

I grew up Mormon, in Utah no less, and it has the same significance it does for the rest of the general population. With just as much excitement involved. The only times I've seen married people not wear their ring is for safety, like if they work around machinery. But beyond that? Engagement ring for the woman and wedding bands for both is standard. Mormons are weird, yeah, and there are definitely weird cultural things (the fancy sodas!!!) but they're also still members of the general culture and take part in most of it. You're coming across as a bit trolling, or maybe only talking about the very insular polygamist sects.

[@rustkitty]

@@widdershinscryptid I wrote _religious significance_ intentionally, you are talking about cultural stuff. In Christianity the wedding ring is actually a sacred item and an integral part of the religious marriage ceremony. This isn't a "Mormons are weird" thing as you put it, Christians are the weird ones here. I don't deny the cultural customs you described, but the same can be said about people of other faiths (or no faith) wearing their wedding rings for cultural reasons. As far as I've seen Shad hasn't ever worn a wedding ring in his videos. My only point was that religiously speaking, he doesn't "have to". Sure, he "ought to" if he wants to fit into his society, but this guy has an adult play castle in his yard and he wears medieval cosplay all the time! No shade on those things, but I think it's pretty clear that he isn't concerned about fitting into society.

[@adorabell4253]

@@widdershinscryptidthat’s Utah mormons. Mormonism presents a bit differently in other countries. It would depend on if wedding rings were still a common thing in Australia for millennials.

[@emh.1178]

I'm exmo- depends on the individual mormon and what sect they are in and where they live. In Utah there is a completely different base culture than the Colorado polygamist clan, and they are both very different from Indiana Mormons, which are basically just evangelicals with extra steps. My parents have a very normie-christian belief about wedding rings, but my brother and his wife just think they are pretty and a fun tradition. And that's just in the same region and sect and meetinghouse. But you are probably right when it comes to Shadiversity, I don't know him like that;D there's a lot of diversity! anyway thanks for coming to my tedtalk lol

[@PyrrhicPax]

I'm an ex-mormon convert and every married person in every ward I went to wore rings... I'm not a LDS anymore, but it still annoys me when people trash mormons, or any group, on unfounded claims, just for the sake of trashing them. The only piece of jewelry ever denounced by the LDS Church has been the wearing of the cross, because they believe it is more important to memorialize Jesus' life and his lessons, not his death and sacrifice. This is why you more often see mormons wearing an angel (the angel "Moroni") or a tree emblem (the Tree of Life) on their necklaces instead.

[@mysticknight48433]

Arguably, the only thing worse than Shad is his community. So ready to pounce on whoever Shad points them at

[@JL0ndon]

I swear whenever i think shad’s insecurities have reached a peak, he then lashes out on ppl who actually have the skill he wants

[@username-unavailable]

LMAO can someone PLEASE transcribe the rant at 26:00 mins so I can use it as a copypasta Sword dude did a disservice deleting that comment because LMAO

[@username-unavailable]

Fun fact about me and this comment: I am watching Jake on my television and paused it to write this on my phone before he made the 'some one would have to transcribe it' remark Same wave length Please transcribe it

[@dubspool]

No one no matter what walk of life they are has the right to who I should and should not watch and I find it very laughable that a man that unless I know from his own perspective has not been to a war to know the true meaning of a warrior sir you may claim to be a true warrior in your own video but you are truly not unless you have proof of your credentials have you been forced to go to war for the sake of your family have you had to look into the eyes of your enemy and take their lives because while you may talk about sportsmanship like how pop culture does and believe me you do in a way that I find it no different from the other swordsmanship content creators but you seem to talk about swords like as if you're a true warrior when I find that the most laughable piece of cap I have ever heard in my existence swordsmen were not the type of images that we have seen through pop culture nor were they talked about through history they were just as much as killers rapists and murderers has anyone else remembers those that were like that whether they be in the battlefields today or yesterday I find it very disrespectful to True man that had to go through such pain of fighting in war and taking up a gun to defend themselves just as much as men that had to be forced to take a sword to defend themselves and fight for their lives a weapon today baby some form of reminder of a past ling forgotten but that same weapon in the past was nothing more than a tool for survival I find it very disgraceful that you would say this and I find you have no place to tell anyone anything for you are nothing bit entertainment at this very moment if anyone wants to know swordsmanship they can go to places like you are still learning but if people just want to talk about swords and talk about the other medium that swords are even talked about nowadays which is the things of Pop Culture anime and so on they have their absolute right to do so and you are in no place to tell people otherwise I'm going to be honest and this may be brutal but know your place you absolute Jabroni

[@dubspool]

Edit fuck I think it got flagged as spam there goes a good ten minutes :( We teach kids how to use grammar for a reason, and I wish OOP did. But like that whole implication that peasant levies (which I assume that's what they meant by forced to go to war) had swords. No they didn't. Swords were expensive to make and it took time to train peasants to use said sword. Peasant levies were basically cannon fodder, they had spears and polearms because it wasn't hard to hold to pointy end towards your enemies.

[@username-unavailable]

@@dubspool I'm about to play it on my television with speech to text enabled and have my phone pick up Jake's reading and edit it post haste Like I NEED THIS

[@ligenglish]

Lindybeige is fun. He’s actually one of the first sword guys I found on KZbin. Entertaining an engaging style and seems to know his shit. That said, now I want to find somewhere that I can find the deep lore of who beefs with who in the swordiverse

[@ved2360]

Imagine a community of, let's say, very opinionated engineers or artists and you have very nearly the idea. But the problem is that the historical record basically amounts to some books that are the only keyholes into an irrecoverable lived history. Whereas engineering or art are very well-studied subjects with a wealth of resources that can be easily demonstrated or proven empirically. Online. In a very accessible digital format. I'm not aware of any open drama or personal beefs though. Even r/WMA or r/HEMA simply don't talk about Shadiversity, or for that matter, John Clements very much. The latter is the OG HEMA drama lolcow who is now considered out-of-touch and cultish. And he's sort of the genesis point of HEMA splintering off into a bunch of anarchistic groups who try to figure out HEMA in their own splintered groups. There's a very much an optimistic belief in the subculture that anybody can figure it out independently and can contribute to "the art" through grassroots collaboration. I also have a mild suspicion that there's an unspoken culture of just not talking about drama that way because everybody likes to style themselves rly srs historians and martial scientists. If they think your opinion is really dumb, it's framed through the idea that your opinion is unlettered conjecture. It's very hard to just say, "this is my personal experience" because, well yeah, you're a random person on the internet. I think they're just being studiously polite to a fault. A lot of people clearly have pride in their knowledge and abilities and should just want to spank Shadiversity in a call-out fight. Stupid machismo? Maybe. Personally, I just think they're all stuffy.

[@taistelusammakko5088]

​@@ved2360maybe because hema is not about youtubers, its about a martial art

[@ved2360]

@@taistelusammakko5088 Ah yes, because martial artists and the politics around martial arts is famously not plagued by ego and petty drama. MMA turns out a lot of right-wing chuds, by the way.

[@DeathnoteBB]

I was gonna say, don’t do lindybeige like that! He’s actually cool

[@adorabell4253]

@@DeathnoteBBhe’s a bit too into Evo-psych. And really nationalistic.

[@thulsa_dad8862]

Sword guy here. I think training with ill waited and bulky foam swords makes you BETTER with an actual well made well balanced sword. At least in my experience. That being said, we have a term in the community. "LARP physics" is a real thing and the games that people play foam swords with reward wonky technique and bad form. I love full contact foam swords fighting as I can take my realistic weighted foam sword and swing as if I was trying to kill my opponent.

[@Mercadian]

Best example of LARP physics: we were fighting uphill against a team defending the top of the hill. Realistically, the team at the top should've most likely won since they could attack our heads with impunity. In LARP physics, by the rules of the game, headshots weren't allowed, so we won by hitting the enemy team's ankles.

[@thulsa_dad8862]

@@Mercadian I have said so many times that the very nature of the idea of "respawn" drastically changed the way LARP battles go.

[@ninin117]

i just cannot believe this dude is jazza’s brother. shad is ROTTING in his brother’s shadow

[@jurassicsmackdown6359]

I remember seeing Shadiveristy saying nunchaku were a terrible weapon... And then proceeding to swing one pair of them with both hands like a European flail. Bro can't even use nunchaku properly and claims theyre a terrible weapon, I don't trust him with any sort of sword. EDIT: of course Shad is chummy with Metatron, bro is the king of weeaboos

[@vksasdgaming9472]

His nunchaku was terrible. As in it was badly made and improperly used. Using both hands to swing nunchaku is actually valid method of using it.

[@jankopransky2551]

Shad's take on european flail missed the mark as well

[@sethmiller2532]

Honestly, Shad saying that he's friends with LindyBeige is probably the biggest indictment of LB.

[@Speederzzz]

As a LB fan that does dissapoint me, but I wonder if it's true friendship or Shad being weird about someone they only taked to a few times

[@sethmiller2532]

@@Speederzzz The silver lining is that it's not unlikely that Shad is just being extremely parasocial and assuming that Lloyd is a friend without being given reason to believe that.

[@idkwhattohaveasausername5828]

I have to admit, I do like a good swordfight 👀

[@DeathEatsCurry]

Not much of a swordfight. Shad can't actually fight for shit, while sellsword is really quite good at what he does.

[@SarastistheSerpent]

Me too 😏

[@_____Astral_____]

​@@SarastistheSerpentshame Shad can barely push his widdle sword past his gut

[@BarefootCM]

Surprised to see him self report here but not at all surprised to see him doing some "creative" edditing that misrepresents whoever he is talking about. That one is on the first page of the Shad playbook. Funniest thing for me out of this is i thought Swords was the one thing Shad did know and that he comes across as a dickhead because he steps out of his area of expertise and forgets he isnt an expert on that. Turns out its just that being a dickhead is his only field of expertise

[@paulsmart4672]

Its a common theme. At this point if a guy with some sort of purported expertise in some niche subject has a pattern of loud, proud ignorance on other subjects, I assume that's what he's doing in his niche, too, and getting away with it because of the niche.

[@avlaenamnell6994]

i love how he does it then claims other people are being disingenuous, fuck man he loves that word so much

[@Malfus_The_Swift]

Hell yeah! Another "Shit on Shad" segment!

[@themarco6507]

Shad has zero training and has zero actual sword skills, he just reads wikipedia, loudly not understanding it for his neckbeard loser fans who can't be mall ninjas anymore now that malls are closing.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

Malls are still there. They aren't mall ninjas as that implies discipline to actually train and study martial arts. His fans just want justification for being idiots.

[@themarco6507]

@@vksasdgaming9472 fair

[@AegixDrakan]

The amount of seething commenters (probably Shad Fans) going "Oh yeah, well have you been in a WAR, SIR?! Have you fought with swords with your life on the line?!" to Sellsword makes me laugh because you know for a fact Shad's never done that either. XD

[@John-oh7st]

Anyone else kinda wanna see a them do battle with swords to protect the honor

[@c.m.9369]

Let‘s hope that Shad never gets past his crippling insecurities. If he ever loses those chips on his shoulder, he would immediatelly stop being so entertaining.

[@deanmottershead9208]

funny thing is that during the time periods swords were actually being used on mass they would both likely have been defeated by a 55+ year old guy who would hardly even break a sweat

[@Busto]

"I don't want everyone to think that everything is falling apart. I also don't want anyone to think I have the absolute tiniest, like peanut sized, willie you could imagine. Blimey, no!"

[@starilvara]

Got to say, I would never in a million years have guessed that the super long run-on comment would end with 'Jabroni'

[@SuperMaster000X]

he is dunning kruger effect incarnate.

[@Nik1718]

Not beating the "anime sword techniques are dumb" accusations with two longswords duct taped together

[@Snickle_Snek]

never gonna get over how funny it is that Shad made 40+ minute response videos to David's 8 minute videos

[@drtaverner]

I used to fight SCA Heavy Weapons. Watching Shad throw a blow makes me cringe. I want to watch him get into real gear, not his chain-print hoodie, and get his bell rung.

[@MorgQ7]

What's funny is this Drama is how I rediscovered your content the other day, So I guess Shad can really put good content in front of people to bad none of it is his own.

[@KuLaydMahn]

I hate to be petty but I'm kind of glad to hear that Matt Easton dissociated from Shad. I don't watch swordtube as much as i used to (hardly ever these days) but I do still like & appreciate Matt Easton's channel (Scholagladiatora). It's educational. Skallagrim was my favorite of these channels but I already knew about that falling out. I'm subscribed to LindyBeige but I don't watch his vids much, but from the few I've seen he seems...alright. Maybe I've missed him being shitty because I don't watch a lot of his work but honestly he seemed to be fine as far as I could tell.

[@adorabell4253]

Lindy’s bad takes are mostly on his website.

[@aralornwolf3140]

From another comment... Lindy was considering making a comic with Sargon of Akkad... so... that's an issue.

[@jankopransky2551]

Lloyd is a conservative bri'ish guy. Not overtly, or at least he's not showing it, but he is. Kinda same thing with Metatron (beside being bri'ish), who at least has actual credentials on topics he's talking about.

[@carlstownofficial8898]

Does anyone else remember that one time lindybeige was going to make a Hannibal comic book with Sargon of Akkad!!??

[@MrJibbajabbawocky]

WHHHHHHHHAAAAA? I never got that vibe from Lindy

[@carlstownofficial8898]

@@MrJibbajabbawocky it’s hard to spot when the content is mostly straight forward military history.

[@nathanthom8176]

Is it automatically assumed that you share the same political/societal views as anyone you might associate with? It didn't go ahead and was just a discussion during a video (no concrete plans) and they haven't collaborated since that I can see? The truth is that Lindybeige actually asked his community if he should even do the video with Sargon (he knew Sargon was divisive but not why) and they gave a mix of replies some giving warning and some obviously also being fans of Sargon at the time. This is kind of expected considering most of Lindybeige's content is British History, often from the point of view of British soldiers and is likely to have crossover with the nationalistic types who like Sargon. I disliked Sargon immensely (haven't thought about him in years such is his irrelevance) but let's not paint every single person with the same brush if they haven't shown that they have the same colours.

[@carlstownofficial8898]

@@nathanthom8176 very true and I’ve been thinking a lot about the complex relationship between western historical and cultural studies and national identity a lot lately. Thank you for clarifying. Stumbled upon the hangout when I was 16 and had no clue they professionally separated shortly after announcement.

[@MrJibbajabbawocky]

I was honestly surprised that they would cross paths at all. Lindy strikes me as a pretty typical liberal history professor type.@@nathanthom8176

[@IronMant420]

Sell sword arts always seems so chill and funny. I used to follow shad too before he went down the wrong or “right path” now he’s just an ass.

[@SlowMoPokes]

deeply disappointed that a beef in the sword community of youtube isn't being resolved with a swordfight

[@jasonelek9202]

Of course him and metratron are friends

[@seb24789]

That pretentious italian guy?

[@zigzagzipbag6561]

Wait what, what did Lindybeige do? I thought he was just a neutral dude talking about history and stuff

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Shad’s insecurity is so poisonous, that he openly humiliates himself through associating with criticism specifying no one.

[@WolfHreda]

"If you don't do the art, you cannot talk about how to do the art." Oh, Shad has been doing his damnedest to disprove that idea for a while now. 😂

[@realitypoet]

I used to subscribe to Shadiversity years ago when I was a bit into castles and stuff and I thought he was informative…. Then he started showing his politics/anti-woke stuff so I unsubscribed and completely forgot he existed until a few months ago when his “I’m a real artist!” cope diatribes showed up in my feed; so now I’m really enjoying all the anti-shad content since then.

[@hanzquejano7112]

Which is too bad since he made a collab with Hellofutureme, OSP, and Daniel Greene, who are among my favorite KZbinrs. OSP even animated him. I wonder how they felt? Like they are really wholesome people who I doubt believes in the things he believes.

[@MrWolfgar187]

If you actually watch the video you would know why he's carrying the two swords

[@NoFormalTraining]

Thing is, while Metatron has publicly supported Shad (while also defending Matt Easton after that particular debacle where Shad went ape after Matt found out about Shads nastier views) he's the only one I can think of who has. Neither Lindybeige or Jason Kingsly (Modern history) have publically made any comment at all about Shad to my knowledge, so it does sound like Shad is trying to do some damage control there.

[@AlexMourning5635]

I know more about swords than Shad because my cousin is an actual swordfighter/reenactor/demonstrator. I personally know jack all about swords, but I somehow know I know more than Shad.

[@v_munu]

Since this video, Shad has lost 20,000 subs and Sellswords has grown 200,000 subs lmfao

[@Br0ku]

When he mentions Black Clover while I’m working on a script for a Black Clover video 🤣🤣

[@DivineFalcon]

Shad got that prop thing in his back garden? And he larps there all the time? His neighbors avoid him like the plague, don't they? I know I would do if a weirdo like that lived next door.

[@zeflowerdemon8866]

THIS JUST IN: The lamest swordtuber attacks the coolest swordtuber...embarrassment insues

[@skaldi8347]

I never knew how invested I could get in swordtube drama but I am here for it

[@TheZombiemofo]

Well done to Matt Easton and Skallagrim for choosing to disassociate from this kook.

[@Maerahn]

Ohhhhh Shad... if you want people to take you at all seriously, maybe DON'T make a clapback video to a badass sword expert looking *and especially sounding* like a disgruntled employee at a five-dollar medieval theme park? Especially when aforementioned sword expert looks, talks and acts like like a genuine Boss-level fighter who could totally whup your ass in a skirmish.

[@inkypunk]

I can't even work out why Shad's upset apart from getting outraged at nothing seems to be his whole bit these days. I actually thought he did participate in HEMA but apparently not and I guess he's insecure about it? 😅

[@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs]

Isn't lindybeige just pure history channel with occasional lindy hop dancing? With that narrow scope is there even place to be problematic?

[@Nikodraws149]

Those comments were so out of pocket. If my community was interacting with other creators like that i wish be horrified and ashamed of myself for fostering that kind of audience

[@corranhorn85]

I didn't know anything about swords, so when Shad talked about swords I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Then I heard him talk about art with the same level of confidence. I do know a lot about art and I realized he's a complete jackass.

[@realitypoet]

As they say: hit dogs holler.

[@ragingdevi]

I was just sitting here thinking "shad is just nicki, isn't he?" Lol

[@GeahkBurchill]

I watched an AI grifter ad just so Jake could get a partial penny on monetization.

[@micahfoley9572]

no one boycotts a fellow creator over "conservative" viewpoints. They boycott because of unveiled bigotry and other forms of right wing extremism. Conservatism isn't inherently bigoted. In america, self-identified right-wing extremists calling themselves "conservative" is a fairly new phenomenon that only really became normalized when the republican party made bigotry an open part of the platform. Classical conservatism is about small government and sensible spending and protecting nature and other reasonable, sensible stuff like that. Hating trans people, denying science, and being racist isn't conservatism. That's just being a bad person while calling yourself conservative (or christian or whatever other excuse someone uses to rationalize their cruelty to themselves.) Guys like reagan and Bush Sr worked really hard to keep these kinds of awful people out of the republican party, but Bush Jr broke the wall open by allowing evangelicals and fundies and ND christians to take a major role in the party, which lead directly to trump, which lead to the open disassciation of american conservatives from their support of the separation of church and state, which is how the american right became the bastion for theocracy and bigotry that it is today. This is exactly what the separation of religion and government exists to prevent. Functional governance is a reasoned, evidence based process. See the problem, study the problem, fix the problem. Faith is essentially a vibe check. You can't use faith to govern a nation. You can only damage the process of governance if you everything through an intentionally unjustifiable faith based religious filter first. America is a melting pot.

[@derrickmarais]

It's all about the fact that "He" wasn't on the list of channels , and maybe because there is a pride flag up in the gym in some of Sellsword Arts videos.