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[@gamertechkid1490]

I'm so happy people are still talking about Monkey Island! This was a treat to see on my feed. Thank you!

[@onaretrotip]

Me too! :)

[@thurstone78]

Do you know Return to monkey Island is out made by Ron Gilbert?

[@Huguillon]

I was young... I was looking for those damn floppy disc all over the house

[@onaretrotip]

😂😂😂

[@georgH]

As a non-English speaker, playing a non-English MI2, I only learned what a monkey wrench was while watching an interview with Tim Schaffer about 25 years later... I was stuck there for so long, until I just tried everything, imagine my reaction when Guybrush takes the monkey out lol

[@onaretrotip]

Yeah, it really only works in North America. In the UK we don't call it a monkey wrench.

[@Matropolis]

A classic! I can't believe this fooled so many people 😂

[@onaretrotip]

I know mate 😂

[@curlyfm]

It’s almost like people didn’t understand this whole game was a joke..

[@kypello3512]

2:21 Guybrush's line where he says he can't fit through is from Curse. In the CD version of Secret, he just says "Just a regular old stump."

[@onaretrotip]

Ahhhh thank you.

[@p3k1n0]

I was 11 when I played the floppy version, and the line about the catacombs got me, because, initially, I thought it could be a connection with Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, that I had played right before Monkey Island (Indy had a catacombs section, like the film). That went on for a few days because I was playing a pirated version, and thinking that it could be someting with my copy.... Only after fnding a friend with an original version, going to his home and finding out that his copy was asking the same thing, I convinced myself that it was a joke. Ah, the good old monkeyu island days....

[@onaretrotip]

Haha. I miss those days.

[@phjesung]

I was 12 at the time, playing this for the first time on my Amiga - and never in doubt that this was obviously a joke! I can’t believe that so many people thought that they were missing 18 disks ..or more!? 😵‍💫

[@onaretrotip]

I know, right.

[@johnnyw525]

The stump joke wasn't in the Amiga version

[@onaretrotip]

@@johnnyw525 Really, I thought it was. Might load it up on the Amiga and test it myself.

[@Pingwn]

I just introduced Monkey Island to one of my friends two days ago and he finished it yesterday. It's always fun to see new people playing the game for the first time and trying to figure out how to solve those puzzles, laughing at all the jokes and falling in love with the characters. It is an old game, but a game that still stand out today as a masterpiece for the ages, never getting old as it utalize all of its verbs, includes creative solutions that aren't based only on using items on hotspots and always drive the story instead of just being an obstacle that drag the story.

[@onaretrotip]

Yes, timelessly good design.

[@EdHarrisonMusic]

It was one of my favorite jokes in the game, and I was probably 8 or 9 when I first played through it (with a friend). We had a lot of laughs. I was instantly hooked on the Lucasfilm games \ LucasArts point and clicks and they topped my 'favorite games' list throughout the `90s. The stump joke was a classic example of the occasionally fourth-wall breaking and somewhat pythonesque humor in the game (though I wouldn't learn about Monty Python until some years later). Now turn off your computer and go to sleep!

[@onaretrotip]

Similar age and experience as me then. I was surprised to hear it confused people that much.

[@Domarius64]

I am actually reading this comment when I should be going to bed... Nice catch :)

[@dtape]

Great childhood memory. I knew it was a joke as a kid. So meta.

[@onaretrotip]

So I'm not the only one!

[@MordacksOrgan]

I remember discovering the stump joke when I was a kid. I remember being confused by it at first, but I figured it out fairly quickly when I realized the game wasn’t actually checking for the presence of these disks. I remember being mad at the game for making it sound like there was something cool below the stump. It was a similar feeling to looking at Cheerios boxes with the delicious looking strawberries on the cover but not actually having any strawberries inside. It felt like false advertisement. I always felt cheated by the false promise of strawberries.

[@darkowl9]

You mean the "serving suggestion as part of a complete and balanced breakfast", which is made more balanced by throwing away the cheerios and eating strawberries instead :)

[@onaretrotip]

Hahaha.

[@vespasian606]

When companies started to replace their first wave of PC's a lot of the old systems ended up in the homes of employees.The more enthusiastic had already done a little gaming but quite a few people were still new to it and this joke probably had them a bit confused especially as they may not have been running an official copy.

[@onaretrotip]

Good point.

[@dtape]

You're right. I think this is how my family ended up with our early PCs in the early 90s. We definitely didn't have a legit version. We had a photocopy of a key for the dial-a-pirate copy protection.

[@mymomsaysimcool9650]

I’m 50 and still remember that joke. Another Lucas Arts thing that has stuck with me to this day was the Indiana Jones Atlantis game. To get out of the basement of the college, I had to use a jar of mayonnaise from the pantry refrigerator to grease the base of a statue to move it towards a window to climb out. Only time I had to use the hint line. What kind of drugs were those writers on?

[@dtape]

That was definitely a weird puzzle.

[@onaretrotip]

Hahaha

[@ruben_balea]

Anyone tried to pick up the voodoo love beads? Those are the bead curtains at the Voodoo Lady's shop, after speaking with the Vodoo Lady while the screen scrolls left you can try to get them, if you're fast enough you can do it, I mean you can select "Pick up" and click on the beads and it seems that you have achieved it but in reality nothing will be added to your inventory 🤷‍♂ I was hoping that after I managed to "get them" (even if them didn't show up in inventory) it would still enable an alternate ending or some extra scene after the credits, but as far as I know it doesn't change anything 😢 Maybe it was a puzzle they couldn't finish due to lack of time... or that they had to remove because it would require a fifth floppy disk 😁 It's still present in the special edition.

[@onaretrotip]

That's interesting, not heard of that before!

[@TheRampageTulk]

Return to Monkey island reference was the best, using the original scene from the first game 😂 I’ve never played the originals or even the remakes. But they should keep this as a running joke in future point and clicks 👏

[@onaretrotip]

They really should.

[@DemonHurricane]

Thank you for clearing that all up, I never knew the stump joke to begin with so that line seemed out of place in MI2. I kept thinking I missed something earlier in the game, or if it was a bit of cut content

[@onaretrotip]

You're welcome!

[@patriciobello685]

I first played the sega cd version back in the day. It HAD the joke. I realized it was obviously a joke (but it didn't make much sense being a CD format)

[@onaretrotip]

Oh, that's interesting! They must've ported the floppy version.

[@davidretrogamesplayedbadly3533]

Had forgotten all about this 🤣🤣 As I recall I found it funny, even funnier knowing that people rang the helpline over it.

[@onaretrotip]

I know, right 😂

[@gibtsnicht1003]

This joke is on par with the "Sierra games death screen" when you fall off the plateu on Monkey Island. As someone who played all the Sierra adventures, I was all NOOOOOOO! :)

[@onaretrotip]

That joke is brilliant.

[@Sphat90]

I think the catacomb reference might have been a hint to the underground walkway you were originally supposed to access through the door behind the alleyway in Melee High Street. It would have spanned the entire Monkey Island universe as an indication it was really a theme park (later used in MI2 but you can't go back out into Melee). It would also explain why there are some doors in Melee you can enter and reappear at the other side of the screen without an indication you're going through a building...makes more sense if it's underground.

[@onaretrotip]

Nice theory!

[@TheJamieRamone]

Oh that stump joke, how it got me! 😂

[@onaretrotip]

😂😂😂

[@NostalgiaForever100]

It would seem that everyone has already forgotten about Monkey Island, but no! Thank you

[@onaretrotip]

Never! ❤

[@annemariestrehl]

I remember playing the German CD version and the joke with the stump and the disk 22 was still there. I was confused but I thought it was just a joke.

[@onaretrotip]

Yes, clearly a joke!

[@RetroJedi9]

I'm with you, by the time you come across this joke the game has already broken the 4th wall many times making for a humorous and obvious joke. Loved the reference in monkey 2 aswell.

[@onaretrotip]

Exactly!

[@Kisai_Yuki]

I think had I had the floppy version of the game, I would have went "ha, of course". But you also have to remember that hard drives were a thing, and if the game was installed to the hard drive, seeing the prompt may confuse people since they're not using the physical disks. There is a similar joke to this in SpaceQuest 4 (which came on floppies and CDROM,) where there are two references to a "Kings Quest" game that comes on a billion floppy disks, The first being in the discount bin "KQ XXXXVIII: The Quest for Disk space" in which the second reference, KQ XLIII taking up 841PB.

[@onaretrotip]

Yes, good point!

[@schnittmagier5515]

😂 i was a Kid and was initially very confused and trying out all disks, but after disk 100+ was requested I realized that they fooled me.

[@onaretrotip]

😂

[@Neawoulf]

When i was a kid is was quite confused. I remember i asked my dad whether there were more disks in the box. I was a bit disappointed when i found out it was just a joke. I really wanted to explore those catacombs 😂

[@onaretrotip]

Hahaha.

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

Yeah, got a lot of fun back at the early 90s with my 386

[@onaretrotip]

Good times:)

[@georgH]

I was 8 or 9 when I saw this joke... I was like "WTF? this is a bug" XD

[@onaretrotip]

Ha!

[@Mightyguybrush2]

Just got in from work! What a gear start to the weekend! Excellent video! I have played all the games mentioned and never got the reference. Thank you.

[@onaretrotip]

Thank you very much! Have a great weekend.

[@Mightyguybrush2]

@@onaretrotip and you mate!

[@Calculon1712]

I had it originally on the Amiga but I dont think I ever saw or found the stump joke it wasnt till the internet years later that I knew it existed.

[@onaretrotip]

It's easily missed. I would get stuck as a kid and click on everything in sight, so that's probably the only reason I found it.

[@Spamkromite]

Thank you for the explanations. These really are lost in translation on the Spanish version but now you made it to have sense 👍

[@onaretrotip]

It seems a lot of Monkey Island jokes were lost in translation (looking at you, monkey wrench puzzle).

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

IDK how anyone could get anywhere in this not easy game but be so dense they did not get the joke. It's one of several monents in this game I can remember from my first playthrough.

[@onaretrotip]

IKR

[@nekokna]

They got us!! Me and father were so worried about the disk we did not had jajaj

[@onaretrotip]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nekokna]

@@onaretrotip it were the huge diskettes,cant recall how many but more than 4,was it the small disks that had 4?😆

[@onaretrotip]

@nekokna Ah yeah, the 5 1/4 inch floppies. I think that version was like 8 disks.

[@nekokna]

@@onaretrotip yes!! Haha what a good set of memories with my dad and my brother.many thanks for this video!

[@onaretrotip]

​@@nekoknaThanks for watching :)

[@starkfels-diespielefestung2680]

As a kid, i found that joke great, but on the other hand i was somehow disappointed that there might've been a part of the game we never see. Somewhat like the non-existent secret cow level in Diablo 1

[@onaretrotip]

Haha, I hear you.

[@ewstargamer]

So funny that they got so many calls about that joke lol

[@onaretrotip]

Crazy!

[@Lawh]

I was a kid and really wanted to see the catacombs.

[@onaretrotip]

😢

[@DadLadsGaming]

As if people didn't get that joke😂😂 We played it on the Amiga on release but I don't remember that joke unfortunately.

[@onaretrotip]

Unbelievable 🤷‍♂️

[@JFinnerud]

Well I never gave it much of a thought when i first played it back in 90 or so. Just wished that the devs would have included the catacombs to explore. (Which might have resulted in the need for 22 disks).😄

[@onaretrotip]

LOL

[@drorian]

i'm pretty sure the italian version said something different after the disk 22 message, something like pressing all the keyboard buttons plus f13. I was surprised when it wasn't in this video :P and yes, when I was an 8 year old I thought I simply couldn't play that part of the game.

[@onaretrotip]

Haha brilliant.

[@EdgarRoock]

I believe the version I played was installed from floppy onto the hard drive in full. So no disk reload and no stump joke.

[@onaretrotip]

If it was the floppy version, it had the stump joke, regardless of whether or not it was installed. The joke isn't triggered by a real disk swap, it's triggered by examining the stump.

[@sfrischauf]

As I remember, this joke was referenced again in a later part. I can't remember where exactly, but Guybrush climbs from some kind of crypt up in the stump and looks out of it with his head.

[@onaretrotip]

3:30 ?

[@NesrocksGamingVideos]

I have never played that much of the game to get to that joke, but I thought this was hilarious. I feel sad that it caused so much trouble for the devs.

[@onaretrotip]

Very surprised it caused so much confusion.

[@Soynereh]

Already forgot if there's a nod to it on Retun to MI.

[@onaretrotip]

Not that I'm aware of.

[@lutfimakarim8258]

I love how you can make a whole video out of something so trivial. How about making a whole video out of the infamous goat puzzle on Broken Sword?

[@onaretrotip]

Yeah, funny how that happens sometimes. Possibly!

[@WannabeMarysue]

I never played this game in its original form. I can see how people would have fallen for this, especially because the joke is so deadpan, and especially if people were stuck in the game and out of ideas to explore. Or nah we should just kill them.

[@onaretrotip]

🤣

[@Akronymus_]

That joke actually lead to a game studio using rhat name.

[@onaretrotip]

Nice.

[@oldskoolpaul77]

Awesome! 😂

[@onaretrotip]

LOL

[@TheVergile]

i mean…we had sports games that spammed 7+ discs. it wasnt that outrageous of an idea.

[@onaretrotip]

LOL True

[@coolwill78]

MY ALL TIME FAVORITE GAME

[@onaretrotip]

❤

[@calvinfoo]

I got the joke even when i was just 13 years old 30 years ago.

[@onaretrotip]

Yeah, I'm amazed people thought it was serious.

[@paolomoretti9291]

I played it on the Amiga and I was like 13-14 but I can't remember. Did that version have the jokje as well?

[@onaretrotip]

Yes, it did indeed.

[@lonelyastronautaudio]

I had it on Amiga as a kid and don’t think I ran across the joke…??

[@onaretrotip]

Yeah, it's perfectly missable if you don't examine the stump. I'd get stuck and just interact with everything in sight 😂

[@CraigLim-oc3vi]

Have you covered megaepicgames? If you have what do you think of the jazz jackrabbit games.

[@onaretrotip]

I haven't, but I was a big fan of that game back in the day.

[@grandmasterthefuriousfive7487]

👍

[@onaretrotip]

👊

[@mikeuk666]

☠️ 😅 👍

[@onaretrotip]

🦜🏴‍☠

[@000jimbojones000]

Welll it was soooo obvious that is was a joke because the game said plain and easy after that, that he has to skip the part of the game.... Who tf dont get this? And english isnt even my first languange. Another thing was the joke with the Monkey Wrench in part 2. Of course the Monkey was shaped like a wrench. But here in germany for example that wrench is called a "Engländer" So Englishman or Brit. lol. And i guess other countries also have joke names for it.

[@onaretrotip]

Yeah, a lot of countries call it different things - Swedish Key, English Key, etc. In the UK we don't call it a monkey wrench; not even sure we have a name for it, it's just an adjustable wrench I think. So, the joke only really works in North America.

[@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon]

RetroAhoy did this

[@onaretrotip]

Did what?

[@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon]

@@onaretrotip content on this joke

[@onaretrotip]

​@Dildo_Diablo I'm sure a lot of people have.

[@Dwedit]

Would you say this joke *stumped* those players?

[@onaretrotip]

Look at the thumbnail LOL

[@mevb]

Chester is a female. It's only in the Special Edition that was switched to a guy (for some weird and non-sensical reason), which killed the reply to the "Where do babies come from?" since no guys would react the same way a woman would do.

[@onaretrotip]

That's odd. Wonder why they changed it.

[@calvinfoo]

Those who thought disk 22 is real doesn't deserve to play Monkey Island. They should die instead

[@onaretrotip]

☠️

[@vinnycochrane5139]

Disk 22 IS ERROR

[@onaretrotip]

☠️

[@xcoder1122]

"even since"? Sure, MI had its funny moments but most of them were not funny enough to really make me laugh; smirk a best. Simon the Sorcerer on the other hand made me laugh.

[@onaretrotip]

That's a shame.

[@DeathCrustPunk]

They can insert disk 22 where the sun does not shine

[@onaretrotip]

Wow, it's an anus that opens onto a system of catacombs!