Inside a Home For Sale Damaged by Landslide and Land Movement in Palos Verdes at 4362 Exultant Dr

[@christine-pv3wc]

How can that house even be for sale? at this point it should be forbidden to buy or sell or build a house on this property which is obviously sliding down the hill.

[@mikeyjordan6035]

at some point, all or part of the property may no longer sit on it's surveyed and purchased location.

[@franktorres633]

Or best offer ...I submitted my offer of $125k and is pending.

[@njpme]

That's wild 😂 ​@@franktorres633

[@christine-pv3wc]

@@franktorres633 why?

[@beverleymcghie787]

A fool and his money will soon part.

[@ronhaller653]

I'm third generation San Pedran. 78 years old. This area has been built on before, in the 50's as I remember. The land moved then. Houses were demolished. Nobody in their right mind should have rebuilt here. Seems GREED has been at work here!

[@laurachatham8563]

It was a dump in the 60s wasn't it ?

[@susanvalot5197]

@@laurachatham8563 No, that's on the other side of the hill, where the botanical garden is and across from the garden.

[@susanvalot5197]

@readheath3860​​⁠I wonder if this is similar (but slower) to what happened with the Sunken City in San Pedro in the 1920s?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@laurachatham8563 the dump was on the other side of the hill on Crenshaw and Hawthorne. Below PVDN.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@readheath3860 correct. Before 2020 the land has moved roughly 600 feet towards the ocean. It's moving much faster now.

[@douglasstrother6584]

It should be red-tagged not for sale.

[@Jazzie654]

Sue the realtor

[@Leipuanani]

And they put a rug over the damage so it can't be seen. Smh.

[@jeannetteashlin1725]

​@@LeipuananiI seriously doubt they have a lot of people trying to look at the house. It's $1 million too much. It was a beautiful house. I wonder how many more cracks it has in it since June when this video was taken. Hmm How can you even try to sell the house when people can't drive to it.

[@GT-ey8fm]

"This would be a killer property." You bet! Go to bed one night and wake up in the Pacific Ocean half way through the night. It seems unethical that a property like this could be sold.

[@lithiumsor4905]

Of course it's unethical. But these are Boomers home owners and Boomer realtors you're dealing with.

[@wk4240]

It's unethical that they were built in the first place. We lived for years in a very nice beach community, and decided to move for this very reason. Edges - between land and water - are dynamic and always shifting.

[@lcfflc3887]

The mayor is looking the other way.

[@katydid2877]

@@lithiumsor4905 Really? You know the owner?

[@starcatcher3691]

​​​@@lithiumsor4905What is that supposed to mean? They are being totally upfront.

[@loualiberti4781]

This house is worth Zero.

[@bigx9963]

I hope the property tax is Zero. Not a chance.

[@ericfielding2540]

I am a geologist and you can’t pay me to own that house or one of its neighbors.

[@wk4240]

It's likely geologists, like yourself, were sounding the alarm prior to this peninsula being built on in the first place - obviously no one listened, and instead piped a dream of exclusive living with stunning views and hiking trails. That dream has come to a very ugly end. Hoping common sense prevails in time for the residents to realize they have to vacate.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@wk4240 it's important to recognize that this problem has accelerated in last two years. In my lifetime, it was never as bad as it is now. Many people are trying to find a way to help.

[@beautifulrose8619]

Street named Dauntless was shown. LOL

[@petgranny194]

@@PalosVerdesHouses It has always been bad - just a matter of magnitude. I drove tour buses to Marine Land in the early 80s. The road moved and was rebuilt weekly. It would be better to leave that land for hiking not housing.

[@hippiebits2071]

@@PalosVerdesHouses Beautiful home but unfortunately there is no certainty that the areas impacted by the slide will be salvageable for continued residential use. My heart goes out to all who own property in there, it’s an unimaginably beautiful area.

[@jimjimgl3]

When the realtor states: "going fast" they are not kidding.

[@bypinkerton892]

ROTFLOL....

[@jeffjordan3806]

Who the hell would pay almost 2 million dollars for that house??????

[@palace927]

My husband worked for a soils engineering company 40 years ago who was hired by RPV to see if they could find a way to stop the movement. They said that there was no way to stop the movement.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

There are several reports about the area and many have come to investigate from all over the world. I feel very sorry for those who have homes in the area.

[@starcatcher3691]

​@@PalosVerdesHousesAre all homes in RPV effected? I feel sorry, too.

[@madeleinemcjones652]

Americans are Quitters there are ways but they are too big for the gain they only do them in huge mining or building of monster damns - there are engineering firms that do this in this world. India and Scandinavian and China

[@SighDown]

@@PalosVerdesHousesDidn’t prospective buyers know about the dangers of this area before buying a home here? It’s no secret.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@SighDown the main disclosure of the "slide area" was Portuguese Bend, which is to the North of this area called Seaview. Seaview has recently suffered an extremem amount of movement, which is new. In my lifetime, I have not witnessed movement like we are today, which may be associated with the heavy rain of the last two winters. Yes, Buyers were informed of the Portuguese Bend landslide, and there are some disclosures about the Seaview neighborhood due to the Klondike slide - however, it was somewhat dorment until recently.

[@ucruci]

The house is literally cracking and falling apart and is For Sale? Now, the price is down to $1.45 million. Who would buy it? Why bother listing it?

[@bigx9963]

Property tax is around $14,500 per year. Maintenance $1.45 million. Tax man won. Not to mention many sleepless nights.

[@RobinRockefeller]

The only real worth would be for salvage. The windows and doors ,for instance.

[@madeleinemcjones652]

how would my father in law get a home for so cheap and fix it you can always sell because not all people are like you.

[@ucruci]

@@madeleinemcjones652 Did you watch the news lately? Power and gas are gone. Ground is shifting below at several feet per day. Can't even insure it. Good luck on fixer upper.

[@joevarga5982]

@@madeleinemcjones652 👈 Troll I thought you were impaired. I see it's not preventing you from bullying people on here, TROLL.

[@aslansgirl9014]

Seems unethical to me that any realtor would list a property like this.

[@bobbylockard6653]

Right ... unbelievable.

[@knighthauler2529]

greed

[@neilfrasersmith]

Good luck getting a lender to finance this house.

[@ile002]

Cash offers are very common in this area

[@evecarrington562]

Good luck finding an insurer to provide house insurance.

[@evecarrington562]

@@ile002 Sounds like stupidity is very common in that area as well.

[@sallyital1497]

This whole thing is unbelievable to watch. I can't imagine that even a developer would want to buy that. The land is basically worthless, in California no less.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

thanks for watching - its changing daily

[@wk4240]

The rainy season is approaching . . . Not good. Residents have been warned and are aware of the issue. They have to get their stuff in storage as soon as possible, and get out of there . . . It's a death trap.

[@caldelt]

California is worthless. Such a shame. I had the opportunity to move into my childhood home in OC and pay $40K less in property taxes than my neighbors. I'm happy in Texas.

[@periwinklemcfee7274]

@@wk4240 ...a suicide rap, better get out while we're still young... Cheers!

[@ngutho2438]

@@wk4240 2 million dollars home and no gas or electricity What a pity for a California dream home.

[@Billy97ify]

The idea of floating a house on sinking land is insane to begin with but these large elaborate homes are beyond the pale. The size and shape make it hopeless. If you were crazy or desperate you might try to put a frame under a small house and constantly jack it. There is just no way that giant house can be saved. A tremendous waste of money.

[@jimjimgl3]

And the bigger issue is that even if your own home can be reinforced or buttressed to keep the structure's integrity intact, there is the problem of road and utility movement across the landslide area.

[@Billy97ify]

@@jimjimgl3 According to geological reports the whole area is sliding slowly, so it is doomed. Eventually your house will be on the neighbour's lot. I suppose the land is still useful, but not for conventional houses. I see that temporary water mains with swing joints are already in place.

[@ryangtrask]

The land is slowly moving and has been. What happens if the land decides to really move? Safety hazard. A floating structure? Sunk cost fallacy.

[@GarthGoldberg]

There have been people living in homes on steel "rafts" in the Klondike Canyon since the early 1990's, but I doubt it's possible to put a complex, multi-level home like this one on a raft.

[@Billy97ify]

@@GarthGoldberg Thanks for that. Didn't know about that. I agree that a simple compact design is easiest. Building techniques used on permafrost in the far north might also be useful.

[@Lacerated1DJ3]

This was posted 2 months ago and now residents have had power shut off are saying thay had no notice. A letter in July should have been the first clue to get out.

[@17ipmots]

Down to 1.45 on Zillow. What in your right mind would you even promote this unlivable property as a agent?

[@lcfflc3887]

Looking for a stupid buyer.

[@KatNipeverGreeen]

Whoever buys this house, I have ice Cubes in Alaska I would like to sell you

[@MeMeVoyageOf]

​@@lcfflc3887exactly

[@ezdeezytube]

Maybe more Chinese looking for an anchor in the U.S.? Irvine is full

[@bobbylockard6653]

Charlie! That's who. Unbelievable

[@jagpilotohio]

It’s unfathomable to think anyone would pay anything at all for that place. Surely no one could get a mortgage on it. It’s actually weird it’s even listed.

[@thekid1597]

No mortgage payment, but a all cash offer from China or wealthy foreigners.

[@sagecreekwitt3301]

I agree. It's crazy someone would list this

[@RLDavis-h2h]

Once the utilities, and sewer are cut, house is tagged, condemned, and then the process of eventually destroying and cleaning up the mess begins. The homeowners may be better off deeding properties to city in advance of liabilities and cost of clean up which can be 50K per home. These areas should remain open space in the future.

[@Wildman9]

I'm A Heavy Equipment Operator that use to work in the Palos Verses area . Digging pools ,and repairing slopes etc. They're was a lady that had her house on Steel beams . On top of Sea Containers . We had to dig out under the house to remove the dirt. Talk about movement . The house had to be adjusted at least twice A month . That was in the 80s . Nice views though , that's why A lot of folks wanted property there. Great video.!!!!!

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

I think there are two homes on containers in upper Portuguese bend - there are a lot of people who have I-beams and lift the home on jacks.. in Rolling Hills too.

[@wk4240]

That's exactly why building was so popular there - people pining for the views, keeping it exclusive, despite the dangers.

[@signalfire6]

EVERY view gets boring after a while. It's not worth wondering if you're going to die in your sleep from a landslide.

[@Rich-n9e]

pretty soon they will have an ocean front view

[@jimjimgl3]

@@PalosVerdesHouses "Rolling Hills"....very precise at the moment...

[@geoffm3031]

So basically you have a landslide for sale for over $1 million dollars... got it! I guess you could subdivide it once it reaches the ocean. lol

[@mikeyjordan6035]

It will no longer be located on the purchased survey map. Not only will you lose everything, owners may potentially have to pay to demolish and remove it.

[@miketubbs1198]

@@mikeyjordan6035 And no insurance will cover it.

[@shannonwilliams6623]

Hey it's a landslide deal lol

[@shannonwilliams6623]

Hey, it's a landslide deal! Lol

[@jdc8352]

1.9 mill Even worse

[@scottprather5645]

That's such a bummer. Seems to me that land is almost worthless now it Should have never been developed.

[@jackiemansfield8325]

The listing realtor should be embarrassed to be listing and showing a property that will soon not exist anymore. Isn’t this a scam?

[@bobbylockard6653]

I agree. Unbelievable.

[@ile002]

It’s LA! Many houses are sold and leased in really bad shape… this is a beautiful cracked house in a nice area

[@humanresources2138]

@@ile002 What are you talking about? It has nothing to do with the house but the fact that there's a never ending landslide going on beneath it. Don't try to equivocate.

[@miketubbs1198]

Location location location....it's not worth $1.7 million, it's worth $0. The car is worth more than the house.

[@joannaradacina2585]

Hahaha....if the owner can drive it out of there

[@AmirFazadh]

That TV on the wall is worth more than the house it’s attached to.

[@uncle_herniation]

I mean if you don't like the location, all you have to do is wait a couple of days...

[@evecarrington562]

@@uncle_herniation 🤣 Bruh... that's not even right! 😂

[@nicolelochren9560]

Saying something is safe when mother nature is unpredictable, is quite bold

[@madeleinemcjones652]

the freeway is not safe - volcanos are not safe - life is not safe! No one has died it is a SLOW moving not FAST moving landslide - slow enough to repair

[@Aspen5.7]

According to Zillow, this house was bought for 1.3 million in 2012. Property taxes are over 18K per year. I don't feel sorry at all. Everyone knew this land was moving but they bought it anyways. And they have the gall to ask MORE than they paid in 2012. And not even a very nice view. Greed!

[@RH-cv1rg]

Greed? No, inflation is up 40% since 2012. $1.3 million is now $1.8 million, break even. They are currently trying to sell it for $1.4 million ($1 million in 2012 dollars)

[@Aspen5.7]

That price is only if it wasn't damaged. Greed. Thats like crashing your car and expecting to get full blue book for it. They should list it for $999k and be happy if they find a sucker to buy it. Greed....or more accurately delusional

[@ezdeezytube]

This housing bubble messed up everything. Its not all from inflation, its been easy interest rates for much longer. This bubble is starting to burst and prices in stable land areas will go down no matter what the CPI suggests.

[@kimberlyhicks3644]

Oh, the view is on the verge of being EXTREMELY INTERESTING soon. It will become an under-the-sea observatory in the very near future.

[@c.s.mcleod7383]

Wow! K18 taxes,for a house with cheap laminate flooring.

[@johnreyes1749]

A beautiful home but those homes should have never been built on the hill, but that’s the problem in California because homes are built in historic fire prone areas, hills are leveled for homes so you’re going to have land moving because it’s been disturbed😖

[@hippiebits2071]

@@johnreyes1749 Landslides take place on undisturbed land in the wilderness as well. I can’t really agree with those who are saying the land should have never been developed as generations of people have enjoyed the privilege of living in that beautiful community and raising families there for decades.

[@evecarrington562]

As I understand it, back when home builders wanted to build in the area, the city said no because of the movement. Potential homebuyers got lawyers and demanded to be able to build in the area. The City made them sign waivers that said that they were area of the land movement and that they had been warned of potential dangers. These people can't sue the city or anyone else.

[@hippiebits2071]

@@evecarrington562 It doesn’t really sound like anyone in there is blaming the city. It seems more like just disappointment that things have now progressed to this point. It may very well be the point of no return unfortunately for the neighborhood.

[@ezdeezytube]

So if you buy this house and it moves 30 more feet southwest over the next 6 months, do you own where the house is or where the house was?

[@gabyfields3235]

I guess where it was. If your house is "intruding" into a property below, then it is your fault, lol

[@lyndielynn496]

It really won't matter..neither spot will be there for much longer 😮

[@holsen2]

I wouldn't pay even $10 for that place! Good luck finding a place to insure it. The contents are worth more than that house and property. Very sad.

[@bigx9963]

Yeah you can get for a buck. But the tax man is still wanting $15K to $20K a year, depending on his mood.

[@andym.3548]

I surmise that Jason was asked by his Realtor friend to help "get the word out" about this listing, which probably put Jason between a rock and a hard place. Kudos for showing the neighborhood damage as well as the home damage and discussing the history and prospects for remediation (bleak). As others have pointed out, even if you could make the home whole, the streets and related infrastructure, and other homes around you are sliding into the ocean; no gas, no electricity, and eventually no water or sewer. Homeowner rolled the dice for 12 years, but now has come up craps. Still an interesting and informative video, thanks.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Thanks for your comments. Historically, there was very little land movement in this area until the heavy rains, and something triggered a new slide. Its devistating. I film many homes in the area, and I am full disclosure about known conditions - thanks for watching.

[@donzioldbuddy]

@@PalosVerdesHousesI remember water flowing down Klondike canyon as a kid in PB. Those canyons were bulldozed and built upon, blocking the natural flow of the runoff and forcing the water into the bentonite layer

[@humanresources2138]

@@PalosVerdesHouses The house is WORTHLESS! Why are you promoting it?

[@joecummings1260]

When the sewer system gets shut down, this place is done,. Those properties aren't big enough for septic systems. I guess you could install holding tanks, but I doubt that you'd be allowed to do that

[@MikeJones-wc4qj]

Real Die Hards in Denial installing Septic Tank for Poo Poo?? Run Generators? 😂😂 How Stupid

[@joevarga5982]

@@MikeJones-wc4qj Huh?

[@bobmirror7164]

It is a tear down. Re-zone the whole area for a Recreation Vehicle camping and tent camping.

[@steverturnsk6190]

Bird habitat.

[@hippiebits2071]

@@bobmirror7164 To be honest I don’t know that I would feel even comfortable camping there given the dewatering efforts going on to address an issue that they really are only able to make a somewhat vague educated guess about at this point. Too many unknowns for me to feel comfortable with that even while understanding their logic.

[@zerkfitting]

I'd build a boathouse in front of each home. Pretty soon it will all be waterfront.

[@KungfuTeapot]

@@zerkfittingwaterfront, underwater, same thing

[@zerkfitting]

@@jeffgorgon5455 Good idea. Start with Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, then go right down the Democrat line-up.

[@Idontlikethisever]

Yeah that’s a great idea let’s buy a house for 2 million that will soon fall into the cracks 👍🏻

[@blipco5]

The realtor who sells that house should win an award. 🏆

[@jamesgalle6122]

My neighborhood is holding a bake sale next weekend ... all proceeds will go to the "poor" suffering Palos Verde struggling homeowners ...

[@ginac895]

Ya prison

[@1deadhead]

Ya, for being the best con artist there is !

[@GarthGoldberg]

@@jamesgalle6122 If they sell the red Corvette they should have enough to eat for a while.

[@jeannetteashlin1725]

​​@@GarthGoldberg💯🎯 😂 Heck they can't even move their car out of their garage. I guess they could have still in June but no roads to drive on as they're a mess. The car is a loss too as 3 months later it may not be possible to get it due to the house sliding.

[@Horace1993]

Intentionally or not, the idea that this can be solved with engineeering on the property is misleading. This is not a matter of just augmenting the foundation. The land is separating through the property and it seems fairly evident that will continue. Another property very nearby had this kind of repair PRIOR to the rapid increase in movement which at the time resolved the same sort of damage that slowly accumulated over decades. The movement is now 100x faster. Youd use caisons and lifts and still see this split in half. I hope the broker has great litigation insurance. Then again, the disclosures may cover them. I am bothered by the moral hazard of trying to sell these homes at values compared to those not far away on stable geology. It wont end well.

[@wk4240]

What shall happen is the entire area shall be massively devalued, and that includes the surrounding areas that are still "safe".

[@lcfflc3887]

I have a theory, constant water sprinkling of the land contributed to this, they come on every night, this water eventually just find itself moving the land by making it to soft underneath. Think about millions of gallons of water every year to keep all that vegetation and grass green.

[@petgranny194]

@@lcfflc3887 Nope, Portuguese Bend was moving when it was raw land. Irrigation has nothing to do with it. 100% agree with the moral question. It should all be red tagged, cleared and restored to native coastal vegetation.

[@hippiebits2071]

@@lcfflc3887It’s much more likely the torrential rains of the past few years accelerated all of this to possibly the point of no return.

[@madeleinemcjones652]

FRANK YOU ARE WRONG ! IT can be saved , it can be moved, we did it we proved it - many homes where SAVED and MOVED in 1950's sadly some got moved to SEAVIEW so they are getting it AGAIN. Quitters are not experts that is why we probably will never get to MARS we have lost the can do generation.

[@Horace1993]

In this area today, southern california gas has stopped gas service to over 100 homes. It may be temporarv however it speaks to the seriousness of the situation. Homes went into the ocean in the last landslide. Take a look on the map. Crenshaw blvd rises to top and just terminates. It was planned to run down to the boulevard below. The area of this home is adjacent but is getting collected with the contemporary movement.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@Horace1993 very sad and difficult time for those homeowners in the area. There are a bunch of locals trying to find a way to help.

[@madeleinemcjones652]

They did not go into the ocean - they got moved

[@Seek-God-First]

City gov know its going under that’s why everything‘s been turned off there.

[@humanresources2138]

@@PalosVerdesHouses Empty statements designed to mask this crappy behavior. There's nothing that can be done. Stop with the waffling.

[@catlovermarty]

Sad. It's really a beautiful house. I don't know who in their right mind would buy it.

[@Horace1993]

It's not about right mind. People buy homes using an agent expecting agency. Same with sellers. The problem is that there is very little accountability and these sort of situations leave those without capital to sue, litigate, screwed. It is morally wrong to pass the problem on to someone else. As a buyers agent I couldn't sleep at night misinforming my client for a commission check.

[@dizzymindy6024]

@@Horace1993you have good morals. Thank you for being a good person.

[@mamiemoncrief9664]

I was thinking the same exact thing.

[@ciararespect4296]

Are you saying this guy is immoral? ​@@Horace1993

[@wk4240]

@@dizzymindy6024 He's correct. How would you feel if you, or someone you knew, bought a deathtrap like this? It's morally and ethically wrong. That doesn't even factor in the potential loss of life.

[@annspires8380]

Pay no attention to the giant gaps under the area rug! A little caulk should work on the separating shower. Those ceiling tears add character and charm! Don't like the view just wait a moment it will change!

[@hippiebits2071]

In no way did this video suggest this house would only require superficial repair. The rugs are probably still down because those floors in their current condition present a very real fall hazard to anyone in heels.

[@piratessalyx7871]

@@hippiebits2071he was trying to to bring humor…guess you missed that

[@CrabDigs]

😂

[@tdbarton7712]

😆😆😆😆😆

[@KarenBarrow]

🤣 they need a Jedi to sell the house, lol

[@claudehopper9813]

What holds up the I-beams and bottle jacks ? If the ground is moving it's Like moving !

[@tacobruisedays]

Jason, question. If you buy this "land" are you getting the GPS coordinates land of where the property lines are, or are you getting where the house ends up? Has that legally been worked out?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

good question- my understanding is you buy the gps location which becomes a problem as the land moves. I heard of one homeowner who has been trying to restrict access to his neighbor over land that moved onto his property - i do not know the outcome yet -

[@jaya3714]

@@PalosVerdesHouseswow just wow the whole situation is sad and unbelievable. Im surprised this isn’t bigger news then it is

[@wk4240]

@@PalosVerdesHouses Everything is off the table once those homes crumble into the ocean below - and you know it. How long have you been in the real-estate business? You do realize that when land cracks, and falls, it takes surrounding land with it (which brings into question the tenuous situation for neighboring communities as well). Forget about GPS coordinates. Even though it's done, It's unethical to be selling death traps to anyone.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@wk4240 I have been a local agent for 26 years. I disclose all known local conditions for Buyers and Sellers and seek to help my Buyers get the best deal - I have had many Buyers walk away from deals in other area's too based on disclosure and discovery of items they didn't want to deal with. I disagree with your comment, I am not unethical. If a buyer wants to buy after being fully disclosed that is his option.

[@wk4240]

@@PalosVerdesHouses Suggest getting into another profession. Selling homes , that are clearly a disaster to anyone is unethical.

[@nightowl6260]

The county that allowed development here is corrupt.

[@madeleinemcjones652]

LACO how would they have known in 1950 -the people lived there for 10 years no issue - the RPV city graded and started the landslide - there is no corruptions the law suit is settled it is documented you need to research

[@piratessalyx7871]

@@madeleinemcjones652baloney landslide in the 20’s and 50’s, plus the road around the bend always showed movement

[@williamlloyd3769]

The county and city lost a lawsuit as the claimants said that not allowing them to build was an illegal taking by not allowing them to build. At the time the slide was moving very slowly.

[@evecarrington562]

The homeowners signed waivers saying they were aware of the land movement. They were warned, but they wanted the views and the gated communities.

[@valeriegriffin7021]

In the early 90’s, I rented a guest home in Rolling Hills in an area known as the Flying Triangle. Every rain season the owner would be jacking up the house. One morning I woke up to see a sinkhole forming in the back yard. I’m sure the home is no longer there.

[@wk4240]

Imagine the time, effort and resources required to do what inevitably fails. This should already been a message to the surrounding neighbors.

[@madeleinemcjones652]

I have not heard of any home loss in the Triangle I have been here a long time

[@sagecreekwitt3301]

"Rolling hills". Rolling to the ocean.

[@kimberlyhicks3644]

Growing up in the 70s, my generation was frequently told that California would slide into the Pacific Ocean one day. Little by little we are witnessing this prophecy fulfilling.

[@joevarga5982]

RPV isn't California. California isn't going anywhere.

[@Fido-vm9zi]

I remember always hearing that too. Little by Little that land erosion will make it so.

[@SighDown]

Should we be worried about Palisades Park above PCH?

[@sagecreekwitt3301]

Funny you say that. Living in New Orleans in the 90s everyone said it would flood. Everyone knew it was inevitable!

[@johnc2438]

01:22: "It's unfathonable...." Really? This has been going on for decades. I remember as a kid in the 1960's seeing these stories about Palos Verdes. To the realtor: Wake up and smell the coffee. To buyers: Beware of this entire area.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

The Portuguese Landslide started in the 1950's and has moved roughly 600 feet towards the ocean up till about 2020. Recent rains have increased the movement to nearly 4x as fast. What used to be an inch a month is now in some places almost a foot a week.. this new level of movement is hard to imagine (unfathonable)

[@PetuniaAgra]

One inch a month is already a lot for, and ridiculous to build on. Even an inch a year. I can fathom an active landslide increasing in speed.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@PetuniaAgra yea, an inch a month was tolerable for homeowners to control. The current estimate is about a foot a week, which has intensified to a major issue and concern

[@jenniferhill9072]

How are they being allowed to sell it?

[@joevarga5982]

Why wouldn't they be allowed to sell it?

[@jenniferhill9072]

@@joevarga5982 well I suppose because the land all around it is falling apart and sliding downhill.

[@CanTho2022]

@@joevarga5982….you must be blind and stupid for NOT seeing the obvious 😂😂😂

[@humanresources2138]

@@joevarga5982 Because it needs to be condemned. Problem is, is that politicians haven't summoned up enough courage to tell all the homeowners that they need to vacate. At the very least, they could stop the attempted selling of these homes.

[@CanTho2022]

It’s UNETHICAL for any Realtor to even try to sell this!!

[@bobbylockard6653]

You would think so wouldn't ya. Unbelievable. That's greedy CA for you.

[@Christiane069]

This is very simple, any and all houses build in this area have NO VALUE, PERIOD. The real question is' why did the city or county allowed this to happen. Maybe some legal action need to happen to avoid a repeat anywhere else.

[@Rich-n9e]

maybe people need to do a little research before getting multi million dollar homes loans and buying worthless real estate

[@charlesward8196]

@@Rich-n9ecaveat emptor, baby!

[@SighDown]

This is happening all over Southern California. Developers are king and build wherever they want. Look at so many fire-prone areas like Malibu. Indigenous peoples have known for centuries that areas like Malibu should not be developed.

[@Christiane069]

@@SighDown Money talks. When there is so much money involved then America becomes a third work country. It is the same all over the world.

[@patwats8860]

There are many areas in CA where you should hire a geologist. He will tell you IF the land is stable and whether the land has a high hazard of ancient landslide! Native Californians know this.

[@DulceN]

2M for a home that’s falling apart??? These sellers have NO shame. I wonder what the house is looking like 2 months later…

[@Baebon6259]

it is at 1.45 mil now. Damn...currently owner should have fire sale it below 1 mil months ago.

[@kellyb3375]

If I were anyone in that area, I'd be selling asap. Good luck selling that, soon to be red tagged home. I'm amazed city would let them sell it.

[@wk4240]

They have to leave. Nothing here is worth selling.

[@lcfflc3887]

If you find someone stupid enough.

[@joevarga5982]

The City can't prevent people from selling what they own.

[@piratessalyx7871]

@@joevarga5982the county can red tag it

[@Seek-God-First]

@@joevarga5982 selling is one thing finding a buying is another , it’s not going to happen. The sliding problem runs deep and is unstoppable.

[@harbingerview]

Hard to believe they have not removed the furniture before the place collapses. It not even worth land value. Realtors are crazy, selling this disaster zone house.

[@spicecd]

The seller's agent should win an award. If the "fix" was a steel i-beam underneath the home, along with the use of bottlejacks, 1. Why isn't this system currently utilized at this home to stop the cracking/shifting and 2. Why is the homeowner selling their home?

[@humanresources2138]

Because they're full of ish and they know it. This video is just an attempt to abet the seller's con.

[@GarthGoldberg]

In my legal career I was involved with lawsuits from Rolling Hills, just uphill from this development, arising out of land movement. There were geologic reports in our case going back to the 1940's. Basically, the geologists gave the developers the opinions they wanted to hear, namely, that there was a sufficient "margin of safety." Earth movement was highly correlated with annual rainfall. Back then, in the 1980's, it was all about putting the blame on the City of Rolling Hills, then tagging the insurance companies. Now, I doubt the cities have any insurance that would possibly cover this liability.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

The excessive rainfall of the last two years has changed this landscape. Controlling the water into the landslide area is of high importance!!

[@cinetodd]

My heart breaks for everyone affected who may lose or will be unable to stay in their homes. In a genuine sense, my thoughts and prayers are with each of you.

[@charlesward8196]

Caveat emptor.

[@bobbylockard6653]

Amen.

[@christinecortese9973]

I suppose with enough money something could be done but it’s in a dynamic state now and there’s a real possibility this will go beyond any reasonable remediation. I mean, the surveyed property might not even be where it was before. It’s a beautiful area but I suspect a lot of folks will have to cut their losses and just go.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@christinecortese9973 one of the fixes is to lift the home on I-beams and it runs from $300k to $500k. The land is likely not in the original gps survey location- which is a big mess.

[@rzellmer219]

who in their right mind would pay 2 mill for a house sliding down a hill??

[@deborahbuffamanti4847]

You’d be crazy to buy it

[@jimc5694]

Which is probably why the sellers are selling.

[@heartjoy]

Kept waiting for them to say "just kidding - no one can buy this mobile home"

[@midmodfanforever5278]

It's unbelievable that the sale was pending in July, according to Zillow. Who in their right mind would want to buy in a disaster area? Even if the house was fully intact, it must be awful to look at the mess that once was a road or at the house across the street that's sinking into the ground. And guess what? The house next to the one that's sinking was sold in February last year for $3M. It was red tagged 6 months later.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

you are correct. This area did not have consistant land movement when they purchased. The slide has escalated in this area more recently.

[@janicemartell1211]

Are you crazy? The amount of cracks already showing in the house should make it structurally unsound. The realtors suggestion of steel columns to more stable ground, does not address the damage already present. So the big question is how much would it cost to fix this house, if at all possible? I feel sorry for the home owners, but they shouldn't be allowed to load their problem on to someone else.

[@sagecreekwitt3301]

Excellent point! It's a total loss except for the appliances.

[@susanjkadlec7193]

Just a question...can the house be demolished for any salvageable building materials and appliances? Would it be worth the effort and cost or donated to Habitat for Humanity before it winds up in a crumbled-up heap?

[@amysnyder8088]

I’m surprised these properties haven't been red tagged. I’m amused that they’re still asking 2 million for a home that is disintegrating before their eyes. I would feel incredibly unsafe living there.

[@piratessalyx7871]

Me too!😂

[@Fido-vm9zi]

You have common sense!

[@Lisa-qh9ry]

I cannot believe this guy said that can be fixed!!!!! WHAT?????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

the home can be supported by I-beams put under the structure -

[@bobbylockard6653]

Right ... unbelievable!

[@sagecreekwitt3301]

​@@PalosVerdesHouses There's no way to fix all the cracks and damage. The floor, tile , wood, trim etc... everything is compromised at this point. Even if you stopped all movement today, it's crap. Would you personally invest in this ?

[@redmondjp]

@@PalosVerdesHouses Sure, but that just means that the entire house can slide without incurring damage. Your water line, sewer line, natural gas line, electrical ground rods and other items, aren't designed to move. So you're statement is very self-serving.

[@evecarrington562]

@@PalosVerdesHouses Bruh... the house is LITERALLY sliding down a hill and/or sinking into the ground. Have you seen the house right across the street??? I don't care HOW many A-Z beams you put under that house, you cannot save it! That's why the homeowner is trying to sell it. He's hoping a sucker will come along so he can unload it!

[@richardmorrison2686]

What is incredible, is that homes were built there in the first place

[@deedeew4040]

No bank would loan money on this property, no insurance company would insure this property.

[@danlowe8684]

Yet, they still water their lawns and shrubs - which adds the equivalent of 60 inches of rainfall per year to the coastal desert landscape that continues to slide, while dewatering efforts take place!!! smh.

[@lcfflc3887]

I just finished saying this on another comment section here as a theory, areas like this pumps sprinklers water every night all over in to the ground to keep the vegetation around those homes looking nice and green along with backyards frontyards, grass recreational areas, millions of gallons of water per year and no one ever cared or said anything about, eventually this water finds itself trapped underneath making the ground too soft to sustain the weight of the homes and the trees themselves, just look at how the street intersection disappeared, underneath water built up is a problem but is not taken seriously, this water that goes under the ground every night while the sprinklers are on doesn't go anywhere, it will eventually make the ground too soft, someone needs to reach out to this people and other communities that homes in hills like this, water sprinkler are a no go.

[@starcatcher3691]

We aren't a desert. We are Mediterranean.

[@danlowe8684]

@@starcatcher3691 OK, then take it Greek style.

[@MikeJones-wc4qj]

Little narrow hallways and room entrances you bang yer elbows for sure. Gross 1950 design

[@hippiebits2071]

@@MikeJones-wc4qj This isn’t 1950s design. The house was built in 2004.

[@KardyEden922]

I cannot believe they are allowed to even sell the houses there...

[@Caboneski2]

Owner trying to get something for something that is now “Worth nothing”. And the realtor standing there with a smile hoping to get a sell, who will finance, who will insure the house. 😳

[@bypinkerton892]

The Owner is Delusional..... The Realtor is Advertising Himself.... " I will Work to Sell your Property.... No Matter What.!!! "....

[@jjll2651]

Sad for the owner, I just don't see how it's possible to stabilize this house on shifting sands underneath. Even with foundations all the way to bedrock, if the soil keep shifting, what's left is a house on stilts with no roads. Is it even economically viable to stabilize the whole coastline?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

one theory is if they are able to use hydrogers to remove some of the water, the slide will slow down. casons in the foundation might not work becuase the entire area is moving. jacking the home up, or perhaps putting the home on shipping containers,, which a few homes have done.

[@boyasia5874]

Is there a way or possible to move the house to a different lot in a different locale. ..just curious.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@boyasia5874 yes - they have moved homes in the past- but some of the roads are making it tough to get a truck through and currently PVDS is not allowing two axil trucks - so there is a few more obstacles to overcome.

[@wk4240]

We lived for years in a very nice beach community further south and moved for some of the same reasons - land shifts along the coast, very rapidly at times. These people have an ever decreasing window of time to get out, safely. Hopefully, plain logic will set in soon for most of the residents there.

[@kerrybarrera3410]

What bedrock?

[@gina000]

Is that property even salvageable? Best case scenario someone purchases it then watch it slide away? I do not understand why the area is not being evacuated.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

yes - there is a method to put large i-beams under the home and jack it up - currently there are several homes like this..

[@joejesus9902]

@@PalosVerdesHouseshope jacking it up can salvage it, but I’ve read that the soil movement is happening hundreds of feet under the surface.

[@Horace1993]

@gina000 salvageable if the greater land movement gets under control. Then the methods mentioned work. Otherwise the methods mentioned do not work, and in this case will continue to divide the house, or at best the land deep under the foundation would move the entire structure if rigid enough. In the past with a slow rate of movement this was completely fine to deal with. The movement is 100x faster than that now, so these methods are going to he very temporary, when the expectation will be that they last like they used to.

[@Horace1993]

@joejesus9902 it will just happen again or the whole structure will move instead. At the start of the clip the separation of the land is evident in the front yard. The cavity forming there is what will form under the house, as it is now. It will still happen even if you shore up the house and many feet of land beneath it. Houses on the other side of tract may be fine for hundreds of years. This is in an active zone.

[@nobodythatyouknow241]

​Temporary at best. What a waste of time money and resources.

[@orvinstrickler2130]

How foolish is that real-estate agent...there will never be any fixing that house...ever!

[@bobbylockard6653]

Right ... unbelievable.

[@supertec2023]

Didn't they just cut all the power there since they didn't want fires happening and I believe the gas company shut off gas there as well?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Correct - will be harder to sell now.

[@HoangLeQuang-cx6bn]

The home and land is worthless. You would have to be crazy to buy this house.

[@RockyRoadJY]

I cannot believe they are trying to sell this house. At what point does one say, enough!

[@barry3565]

Beautiful area with fantastic view ! Years ago the area was under the study by the county for the land movement. USGS recently found the fault line in Palos Verdes 😢 So what is the land value now? No insurance company cover....I bet😮

[@wk4240]

EXACTLY. Residents have had plenty of time and knowledge as to their tenuous living situation on the peninsula. Years ago, we used to go hiking and noticed the severe fissures in the ground. The area should never have been built on - especially residential property. Scenic views and hiking trails are nice - we all want them - but not at the expense of human lives. Mother Nature has clearly warned them - It's time to pack up and get out, while they still have time.

[@MrBlueivory]

Could someone please explain to me who's going to purchase a home that could one day sink?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

this home is in escrow. people love the area

[@Bltwll]

@@PalosVerdesHousesthere’s a sucker born every day

[@wk4240]

@@PalosVerdesHouses Many people love the area - perhaps for a scenic walk, where it's still somewhat safe to do so. Come back, after the raining seasons hits, and tell us how things are going there with "tremendous" sales.

[@thefalloutshelter7799]

@@PalosVerdesHousesreally…..shows the price was lowered 150k only 2 weeks ago

[@Seek-God-First]

@@PalosVerdesHouses it’s out of escrow now right? A month later

[@wk4240]

REMAX is NOT going to like this video - it certainly doesn't instill confidence in them. The land in Rancho Palos Verdes, specifically in areas like Portuguese Bend, has been experiencing significant movement. As of recent updates, the land is shifting at a rate of approximately **1 foot per week**. This accelerated movement has been causing considerable damage to homes, roads, and other infrastructure in the area. Local authorities and residents are concerned about the ongoing situation, as it poses severe risks to the community. The movement is part of a larger, complex landslide issue that has been present for decades but has recently increased in speed.

[@texasboy5117]

I could see another $200,000 in structure repair and foundation stabilization. And the home could continue to float from its current location. Next the utilities lines and wires will pull out.

[@33piolin]

I have seen the same thing happening in La Jolla . . . the moment we start putting in irrigation into this type of soil - disaster happens‼️ I was dog-sitting once in La Jolla (in a house on a cliff), and the neighbors were away on vacation and their sprinklers came on and would not shut-off, leaving the entire neighborhood vulnerable.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

i agree with you. proper water maintenance and control is essential.

[@angrycatowner]

No bank, credit union or even hard money lender would ever approve a loan on this house. Who are you kidding?

[@Deeluxx11]

Insanity, this house should be condemned.

[@tonycruz2302]

No fears, mother nature is working on it. Who knows, maybe it won't rain this year and the house could be sold as a fixer-upper.

[@MikeNaples]

I don't mean to sound rude but that home has no value nor does the land it's on. Actually negative value in terms of liability. Appreciate the video however and the walk thru. Having once lost a home to flooding I sympathize with what the owners are experiencing.

[@miamivicefanatic9736]

Is this one of the 140 homes to which electricity has been cut off?

[@petgranny194]

Yep and realtor says in a comment that it is now in escrow!

[@Kryxtal]

Music is incredibly distracting and unnecessary

[@garivera15]

I hate to be so negative but why would you sell this home to anyone when no matter how you ''fix'' the foundation the land itself is shifting so, in time, as a solid entity or in pieces that home is going to slide. The sooner you accept the inevitable the sooner you can take charge of your life and move on. Let's say it sells and they find a presumed 'fix'. After 3 or 4 rainy seasons those buyers will sue you and hate you for the rest of their lives.

[@bypinkerton892]

There's No Chance Anyone will Buy The House.... The Realtor is Advertising Himself..... " I will Work For You.!!! "....

[@SuperUniverse3]

Do not believe any insurance company will insure this property. If it keeps sliding, owner is on their own.

[@cliffweinan3907]

Incredible hillside real estate, soon to transition to incredible beach real estate. Would be an interesting real property legal disclosure of existing land and foundation issues. How do you legal survey moving land or get title insurance? Homeowners insurance likely not renewed and both land and structures useless collateral for trust deed mortgage. If there is a natural spring here, why hasn't any bottle water company tapped it over the decades? Building house on sliding clay or sandy soil, what do you expect foundation to do? But this is California love, where fools rush in.

[@Nottallblonde]

Dude, what’s wrong with you? This house cannot sell under any circumstances.

[@sagecreekwitt3301]

The fact a realtor is trying to sell this, and suggested a "fix" is possible ... Is symbolic of the greed and deception in real estate. The reason this mess exists in the first place. The Realtor knows better . He wouldn't let a family member invest in this p.o.s. Trying to "save this is a joke! The house furnishings are dated and cheap. The only thing of quality here is the wood floor, which can't be fixed. Let's be honest, This house is a total loss.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

the fix would be to raise the home on Ibeams off the foundation and keep it level (floating) on a series of jacks. Not conventional, and maybe you have never seen something like this, but there are many homes that families are living in on I-beams. I and the listing agent are not greedy nor do we practice deception! There may be a Buyer who wants this location and the Seller has every right to put his home on the market.

[@carlosz7208]

It’s not cost effective considering no utilities and the adjacent properties sliding into your property. Good luck getting a crew and heavy equipment to the work site.

[@curtcollett2893]

Will it be sold on a sliding scale?

[@JMag1]

How you gonna ask that much for a house thats literally falling into the ocean? 😂

[@Seek-God-First]

Its a wash out and should not be listed for sale. Location is doomed!

[@Jazzie654]

Exactly, they should be sued.

[@derekholt109]

This video did nothing to sell this house, it made it worse. Not only for this house for the entire area.

[@maestrovso]

"This would have been a 3 plus millions home if it is not because of the landslide"? Even ignoring the facts it is in Palos Verdes, the home looks more like the standard issued mobile home on "design" and construction. The minor issues are it sits on a thin layer (WRT the diameter of the earth) of volcanic ash, water, gas, and electricity but other than that it is in amazing location. Yes, it is a screaming sale for only $1.95 millions. I would agree if the price is in Korean won. This realtor claims to be helping these affected homeowners (see his other listings on YT and his videos) in this area. Yet he tries to sell these worthless homes to sucker buyers. No matter what the cut is, I would never in my conscience selling what I know as worthless properties.

[@veea.4936]

They are cutting off utilities now. Giving them 30 days to move.

[@gabyfields3235]

Youy're moving the camera way too fast, man (getting dizzy here...)

[@jackiemansfield8325]

The owners of that house are FUNNY putting the house for sale, eh? How much do they think they are getting for that house, almost 2MIL? Nobody wants it even for free! Try to get something from the insurance company, but good luck on that.

[@Baebon6259]

insurance is probably like Nah man yall be buying homes on landslide.

[@DonnaCsuti-ji2dd]

When i was a kid we drove there and I remember it was all empty land no houses beautiful view of ocean big cliffs steep land not too surprising land is moving. Relatively levely level he says. Well it's actually on top of a cliff area several hundred feet above the ocean and the San Andreas fault southern area is nearby and been moving lately. This can happen in many parts of the country

[@kdubs3]

Whoa -- very sad but interesting to understand what's happening there. My wife grew up for a period of childhood there - we are in Santa Monica now. I've never seen anything like that before.

[@williamfahey6066]

How horrible. I feel so bad for the people that live there and in that whole area. There are, or were, areas of Palos Verdes that were stable for years and then all of a sudden the entire area started moving. Wayfarers Chapel was completely fine then it was suddenly being crushed by the trees and now is being dismantled and put into storage. That is a beautiful area but it seems now that it is totally unsafe. I can only imagine what the repairs will coast to shore up that house. Someone is going to have to decide if it is worth the expense.

[@valeriegriffin7021]

The entire slide area will eventually become a documentary. The property loss is profound. You’d be a complete fool to invest.

[@wk4240]

Invest ? More like devest.

[@madeleinemcjones652]

Thanks for your support - hope santa brings you coal too - we are fine we have adapted and we are safe and have insurance do not spread rumors

[@piratessalyx7871]

@@madeleinemcjones652adapted to landslide and crevices opening up…there is no solid rock formations in PV…all rock and sand stuffed together….guess you will find out next rain season!

[@Fido-vm9zi]

Insurance that covers land movement?