Please Help Victims of Palos Verdes Landslide & Watch this Interview with Homeowner

[@benmartinez8443]

Don’t build houses on ground that moves. The developer who built those houses screwed the buyers.

[@lfbsp]

Then dont build a house where there are any natural disasters, no place is immune from Mother Nature at some point or fashion.

[@davebrown8260]

My brother and I went to Lunada bay to surf, and got harassed by the locals while we were on our boards. Left only to find they slashed our tires. Called the cops, and no one showed up. I'm enjoying the landslide.

[@benmartinez8443]

Surfers are that way everywhere.

[@olivialynnbenavides]

This is nowhere near LB

[@Nurjamila1]

@@benmartinez8443 No, they are not.

[@justagirlsd3000]

Locals suck

[@gina000]

So because you had a bad experience from some unrelated and known a*holes you are going to relish in peoples misery? I bet your interpersonal life is just as messy as your thought process.

[@ronaldmiller8792]

Why do you expect to be able to stop this. That is a large area and a massive amount of soil sliding. Winter and the rains are not that far off from occurring and that will just help to make the sliding worse. You are fighting mother nature and guess who will win.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@ronaldmiller8792 speculation is there is water pressure and possibly an artesian well under the ground. Getting this water out will help. There used to be de watering wells were in place that kept the movement down to an inch a month. If the runoff water from the upper part of the hill and in the canyons is piped down to the ocean that would help a lot.

[@ronaldmiller8792]

@@PalosVerdesHouses I feel sorry for the people living there and it is horrible to live without gas, electricity and sewage disposal. One inch/month slippage in the past is not a small amount of movement. The problem now is not just to remove the water but to somehow dry the soil out on the slip planes. As long as the soil is wet, slippage will occur as gravity and the inertia of that moving mass of soil will be very hard to stop it now.

[@rtqii]

@@PalosVerdesHouses I honestly think it is too late for that. Once the bentonite gets saturated and the ground starts moving like this, you can't dewater it. I know that the road extension is blamed for starting the slide at Portuguese Bend, but all of the 150 or so houses that were located on top of the slide had septic systems.

[@justagirlsd3000]

@@PalosVerdesHouses artisan well doesn't that mean it's a running spring? We had one on our road in Jamul. It was always running until they paved over it. I Wonder if the road had issues.

[@user-he2dz8ye7f]

Beautiful & majestic area - 1 of the nicest in the US. If these people are bailed out, it should be only for the price they originally paid or the value of the land as a park. Can't bail out everyone. Let them buy a home in OC or SD in today's market...guess what? They can't. It's like a stock market investment - they rolled the dice and lived good for many years and the home prices went up 10x. Now it's come crashing down. They don't deserve any special treatment or reward for it. Just move out and be safe elsewhere

[@robertlelis3410]

They had a ban on development.. property owners sued the city. Let them sleep in the bed THEY MADE !

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

When they asked for permission to build the land was moving a lot less.. its roughly 30 X worse now.. hopefully that can be corrected

[@terilea782]

I grew up on the peninsula...PVHS grad '68. Used to spend my summers at the Abalone Club, surf Bluff Cove & Haggerty's. Went to Malaga Cove Jr. High. My heart is breaking for those wonderful people that worked hard all their life & their home is slipping down the hill. PV is in my heart & my soul. This is so painful to watch. Thank you so much for keeping us informed. You are a wonderful person.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@terilea782 thanks for watching

[@SusieAspen]

Just sad for our friends losing their beautiful homes. Sending love and prayers..

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Thank you -

[@teedamartoccia6075]

Fortunately, no lives have been lost. They shouldn’t allow anymore homes or structures to be built in this area ever again.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

there is a moritorium in the area

[@deeferguson9272]

Mobile homes would be a compromise. Solar and propane tanks could power them.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@deeferguson9272 thats a good idea- but has not been allowed in the past.

[@BoilerMaker56]

Really these people need help? How many homes did you sell them? This is nothing compared to what North Carolina and Tennessee flooding has done to people. Tell them to move and let the homes go. stop building on the coasts.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

There are elderly people who have invested everything into their home and need assistance. I recognize the suffering in other parts of the country as well.

[@gina000]

This has nothing to do with the recent NC or TN flooding. Not sure what reality you’re living in to be able to compare two unrelated events.

[@BoilerMaker56]

@@gina000 my point is spend the money to save the people in North Carolina and Tennessee not on the coast of California with the ground always moving.

[@Michael-eg2pw]

@@PalosVerdesHouses Racist old people get zero sympathy. These are the people who moved to a community and signed the protective restrictions during the transaction. Go to City Hall and ask for a copy - you'll see the restrictions are still there, just whited out in original booklets. I'll happily send them money when they acknowledge what they signed. I bet you don't have the courage to keep this reply up.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@Michael-eg2pw a presumption (racist) and a challenge (courage) with a lie (happily send money) are you a real person or a bot?

[@garykidd4468]

Will the whole place just slip into the ocean? It seems futile to try and stay if it all winds up under water in a few years.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

its moving towards the ocen, but still quite a ways from "falling in to the sea" Most are optomistic that the dewatering wells will slow down the slide enough to save most of the homes.

[@markmedley6849]

On a happier note, you look really good if you moved to RPV in 1975. Keep doing what you are doing. I’ve been watching this on the news and it’s so awful to see people’s homes /savings destroyed. I don’t think insurance is covering any of the loss. If I lost my house, I think I would buy a camper to live in on the land like many in Malibu after the fires. I wouldn’t have anywhere to go.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

if the City allows it, a camper is a good idea.

[@gina000]

Thank you for giving a thorough explanation as to how it came to be. I wonder what ancient volcano erupted that spewed ash there. I hope a sustainable and practical solution is found that gives them relief and hopefully save the land.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@gina000 check the comments below. There was a good explanation. Thanks for watching.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@rtqii 13 hours ago @PalosVerdesHouses There is extensive geology on this. Apparently this clay resulted from oxidized volcanic ash that was deposited from submarine vents. It is dated to various eruptions during the Miocene epoch. It is part of a layered volcanic ash deposit named "Portuguese Tuff" and is part of a larger formation called the Monterey Formation. These tuff and bentonite layers were deposited underwater apparently.

[@DolceMar56]

But people that know this, they will continue telling people to buy houses there!!!!

[@deeferguson9272]

Who will ? I think the cat is out of the bag.

[@Once800-]

Is it true PV landowners (in 1990s) sued and won the lawsuit in order to build the homes?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

yes, The Monk lawsuit allowed properties that were in moritorium to be lifted and then built. Some of them on casons, and some have had extensive damage recentlty. The remaining lots that were not in the Monk lawsuit were also given the right to build, but now there is a moritorium on everything for upper and lower Portuguese Bend. Seaview did not have the same restrictions - and did not have movement like this until recently.

[@verumverbi]

Thanks Jason. Truly heartbreaking.

[@justagirlsd3000]

How do you expect anyone to change the sliding peninsula that’s been sliding my whole 64 years?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

i hope they can slow it down and divert the water from entering the fissure

[@justagirlsd3000]

@@PalosVerdesHouses 🙏🏽

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@justagirlsd3000 it used to only move about an inch a month. However, after the heavy seasons of rain the slide is now moving about an inch a day.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Me too!!

[@renacimientodelsol5620]

He’s right. It was a PRISTINE AREA that should have never been allowed for developing. It’s really sad for all of the people who live there. But so many places where developers are building allowed by city officials should not be happening at all.

[@LarryMcNeely-me4px]

It is a shame I have watched this since childhood. I think the only thing the property can be used for now is for an RV campground, no buildings can survive

[@bypinkerton892]

That's a good idea.... Different levels to RV Park.... Demolish all the structures that are cracking.... & Pay those homeowners with a share of the RV park.... Which would be lifelong income.... They could even buy an RV & continue to Enjoy the View....

[@sincerelyjerry244]

Thank you

[@VintageLPs]

I love this area of Southern California and years ago I attended a wedding of a close friend that was held in the backyard of a home in Palos Verde. Where I live in another state, it is forest fire danger or a big earthquake which we haven’t had since 1935 and 1936 that destroyed a good portion of the town. This summer it is costing me $26,000 to have 150’x8’ of 45-yr. old junipers that died after two early winter frosts in a row, removed from two hills. The company shows up once a week for a few hours if I am lucky and I will be surprised if the job is done before the first snowstorm. They also damaged my sprinkler system which I had to have fixed on Saturday. If I had to use a generator I wouldn’t know how and without Internet I’d have to buy an iPhone in order to stay online. It’s heartbreaking what is happening.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Sorry for your struggles - I hope you get prepared for a safe winter.

[@ezrhino100]

why do rich people constantly request bailouts? i have driven this road countless times. the roads alone should make you question the geology of the area.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

a large majority of the people in this area have lived there for 30 years plus and have everything invested. it wasn't this bad before the heavy rains of the last few years -

[@ezrhino100]

@@PalosVerdesHouses so how do you plan on selling any of these homes?

[@Erik-rp1hi]

Is the Vanderbilt main house going to survive in the years ahead?

[@ImNotPotus]

Victimhood requires the absence of knowledge that something bad will (not might) happen to you. This was going to happen. The landowners sued the city to build here. They were literally asking for it.

[@soggybottomboys4302]

Gated Communities Asking For Help Outside the Gate !

[@johnengel5308]

Living in a Slide Zone, What Did U Think Would Eventually Happen?? --- "De-Nile" is NOT a River in Egypt as Country Artist "Pam Tillis" Would Say. -- Buying a Home Here Was a "Ticking Time Bomb"!! -- Nothing More Than "Russian Roulette." -- & All it Took For the "House of Cards" to Fall Was a Couple of Rainy Seasons.

[@Cagsjdr5]

Is it possible to excavate the land behind to take some of the weight off? Like dig a valley behind the slide? I’ve been watching ur story from Western Australia-I’m so sad for the homeowners

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Good day... I did study abroad in Austraila - loved it.. THanks for watching. The bentonite layer is 130 feet deep, so it would be a massive project to excavate. I think the fissures are swallowing the land, it appears that some parts are sinking lower, but its at such a large scale its hard to monitor and know if its moving down, or sideways, or likely both.

[@Cagsjdr5]

@@PalosVerdesHouses you’re very welcome… it’s a fascinating story… yes it would be an absolutely gigantic project-but so were things like the London to Paris train tunnel, or some of the enormous land reclaims various countries have done around the world. Or (different again) in WA we have the Kalgoorlie Super Pit… open cut gold mine.. it’s about 3.5k long, 1.5k wide and 600m deep… The amount of dirt generated by such a massive excavation could also then be used to stabilise the front and sides of the slide. Maybe be crazy… might work tho… if these people would like to save their neighbourhood then they need to take the pressure off wherever it’s coming from, and stabilise the front of the slope.. it’s just gonna speed up otherwise.. thanks heaps for getting back to me 😊

[@drunvert]

Its "slowed" down now to 8" a week from 12"

[@kanakoblondet118]

Years ago, I was looking for a room for rent in PV. The owner’s attitude was literally looking down on people who live below the hills like Torrance. I didn't like that, so didn't move there. Not saying all residents in PV are like that, but kind of understand why some people don't care what's happening here. What I don't understand is why the developers built homes and realtors sold homes in this area knowing the land had been sliding many decades. Victims should go after them.

[@desertlandscapecreations577]

I came to visit a friend in 1979.....I thought the place was incredibly awesome...now, 45 years later...its a NIGHTMARE

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

yea - its an awesome area with a nightmare problem...

[@soggybottomboys4302]

Mother Nature Said Enough is Enough !

[@rickjobs638]

Not really clear. did they know it was moving when they built on this?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Hi, Yes. Frank Vanderlip was the original owner of the 16,000 acres called Palos Verdes at the time, now 4 different cities. His Estate was built in Portuguese Bend as well as many other homes and the original PBC beach club before the large movement in 1956. I dont know if Frank Vanderliip was aware of the ancient slide at the time, however, he may have as he pioneered climate details and weather stations in various parts of PV. After the slide of 1956 when several homes were destroyed and some moved to Packet Rd, several homes have been built. Prior to 2022, parts of the land were moving about an inch a month, or a foot a year. Earlier this year the land was moving up to 4 feet a month and easily an inch a day which is a drastic change and quite incredible.

[@rickjobs638]

@@PalosVerdesHouses so if i'm reading this correct. Why would anybody buy a house on moving land and then expect the taxpayer to fix it?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@rickjobs638 there are different levels of movement. After the rains of 2022 and 2023 the movement has intensified, the current situation has been deemed a disaster and many homes have no power or gas.

[@heatherhuang5919]

Our heart broke for the families in the Portuguese Bend area. Wondering if the whole peninsula is affected by the recent land movement. Our family owns a house on the other side of RPV near Vista Grande, how concerned should we be?

[@lfbsp]

It's so sad to see the hatred and negativity by some posters. While yes, some residents are wealthy, many are not, their entire life savings are lost by losing their homes. This is just as much of an act of Mother Nature as are the Hurricanes that continualy destroy the south, yet you have sympathy for them for building a home in a natural disaster zone.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Thank you - some of the responses have been very difficult to relate to their perspective.

[@lfbsp]

You are welcome Jason. Yes, some of the comments are so cruel, and even if you are wealthy, losing your home is still devastating.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@lfbsp there are some true horrible stories of hardship/. The community has created a special dinner on Wednesday's with restaurants supplying food for the 400 victims of the landslide - we learned there are 89 people who are unable to get to the location and we will be delivering food to these families - they have various medical conditions.... its upsetting that people have strong opinions without knowing the complete story- and i am very grateful for your support!! Thank you

[@lfbsp]

@@PalosVerdesHouses I saw that! 🥰

[@desertlandscapecreations577]

"California tumbles into the sea" Steely Dan

[@texasboy5117]

Were these people tricked into buying these houses? Most of the homes are well over 1 million dollars, were they first time buyer who did not know any better? I'm sorry if you buy these homes which have been shifting for 60 + years it's up to you to deal with the issue.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@texasboy5117 they were not tricked. There are many local reports given to the buyers. It's really just a beautiful are.

[@williamlloyd3769]

Location is a gorgeous area of the SoCal coast so I can see why prospective homeowners thought well, these houses in the area have been here for several years and risk must be low.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@williamlloyd3769 during the drought there was very little movement. i dont think anyone suspected it would accelerate to this magnitude.

[@hikerdude5265]

The State needs to answer the call. Has this been declared a federal disaster zone? What actions has the State actually taken besides shutting down energy supplies? Who is governing this and what actions have been taken? What action HAVEN'T been taken and why? Where is FEMA? I see a slow motion disaster but I don't see any governing as if it is viewed as some sort of typical California status quo. These PPL need help. Does anyone have a link to the State's documented responses to this disaster? From our perspective, on the other side of the continent, it looks nefarious that the California ruling Government is not forefront in the media upon this issue, well before a concerned realtor.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Thank you - yes, this has been declared a disaster, however Newsom has not come to visit and there has been no Federal funding. I was able to create a task for and receive a Grant from the Realtor Relief Foundation which will be assisting families with up to $1000 in aid, and there was a $5 mil grant by Janice Han which is paying out $10k per household. There were some small rebates from the utilities I think the gas company. Gas and Electricity are off for nearly 380 homes. FEMA was here investigating, I am not sure if they funded some of the dewatering wells - in recent news it appears that they have slowed down the movement in the Seaview area by pumping out thousands of gallons of water daily... Thanks for your concern, and do you have experience in assisting these type of conditions? You ask some great questions... Thanks.!!

[@bypinkerton892]

One thing that is never mentioned..... Is that another Engineer said..... The Actual Weight of All these Homes.... Also causes the Landslide....

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

the bentonite is 130 feet below the surface - the land is sliding on this layer of compressed clay

[@silk9775]

good stuff, Thanks

[@sierrapeaks]

I saw your name mentioned in the WSJ on an article about the slide

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

yeah - thanks. I thought Nancy did a good job from the homeowner perspective.. Thank you.

[@danlowe8684]

Lawn watering in that climate is the equivalent of 60" of rainfall/yr. There have also been many heavy rainfall years before this. This was going to happen with or without the two years of rain.

[@Nurjamila1]

An inch a day, So devastating. Bentonite clay & the whole thing being man made with a drilled well & the damage to all of these homes. Sending love & will spread the word. The magnitude of it all & the people so affected are heartbreaking.

[@newsyflow681]

The IDEA that one would knowingly live in a house that is actively sliding down a hill.... OMG! How stupid does one have to be. Any they've known about this for DECADES. I have NO sympathy for these people who can afford to buy a home somewhere safe. The chapel they were smart and removed it to save it. Why haven't these other people not moved? Denial? Do you really think putting in sump pumps is going to save you? LOL

[@dexterthecorgi]

Yeah right. Let's bail out these snooty millionaires. Not the truly needy in Erwin, Tennessee. Or Asheville, North Carolina. Or countless other communities and people devastated through no fault of their own by Hurricane Helene. Let's bail out these snooty millionaires. This is without a doubt the most crass appeal for "help" I have ever seen. Wish there was a way to permanently block you from ever showing up in my KZbin again.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

Lots of people have asked how they can help, and we have created a way to give assistance to those in need. Especially onces that are older and can't manage to fill the generator with gas, or rebuild a fence to keep their animals in the property, or countless other thing that happen daily. The hurricane was tragic and devistating, and I feel sorry for their loss. I am directling my attention to trying to help and make a difference-

[@gina000]

This has nothing to do with those states. I do not understand the need to compare this landslide to Helene damage. Your comment is without a doubt the most crass and asinine comment I have read in a while. Since you are likely a Christian why don’t you go thoughts and prayers some Helene death toll youtube video, I am sure it will be helpful.

[@FishingFettish]

I am rich, and nature will bow to me! well if not the taxpayers will pay to rebuild my house through FEMA

[@victoriamccargar1813]

In the immortal words of the late comedian Sam Kinison, "You want to send them something, you want to help? Send them U-Hauls. Send them U-Hauls, some luggage. They don't need help, THEY NEED F***ING LUGGAGE!!" The only man-made problem here is building houses on an ancient Pleistocene slide. The story about the city activating a spring is just a way to make the City of Los Angeles the ultimate culprit in the inevitable lawsuits-the ones with the deepest pockets. If you want to sue someone, go after the Monks v. City of Rancho Palos Verdes plaintiffs who successfully sued RPV to overturn the very sensible building moratorium 35 years ago. Like Mr. Buck, I grew up around there and even an 8-year-old knew you couldn't build around Portuguese Bend. U-Hauls. Luggage. And stop asking why your homeowner's insurance is being canceled or rising 100% and 200%.

[@ibcrypto6139]

Can't they do something to drill and pump out all that water? I thought we were i a drought?

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

There are two separate layers of Bentonite - one at 130 feet, and another closer to 300 feet that is moving faster. The deeper one is hard to access because it may break the drilling rod or well. It takes the rain water a long time to reach this deep, therefore, we are still feeling the affects of heavy rain of the last two years contributing to the current slide (so I have been told)

[@Erik-rp1hi]

What are the true values of those homes now. They ask $1.3 million for one now. The ones Zillow thinks the are $3 million, what are their true values with the land moving even if they are not cracking up yet. What are the appraisers saying?

[@StevenCosmos]

Devastating to see this beautiful community being destroyed. Thank you for posting up-dated video's so we can witness this geologic phenomena. Hopefully, everyone will stay safe and realize when to find solid ground. My heart goes out to the homeowner who lost that dream barn. It was so beautiful it's heartbreaking.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

THANK YOU!

[@bypinkerton892]

5 homes near me had to be taken down because they were built on a filled in pond.... They didn't fight to make the community pay to fix it... They just bought another place to live.... These Palos Verdes Residents that have homes being destroyed by the Landslide can do the same..... All the Home's currently cracked by the Landslide should be Removed & Nothing Rebuilt there.... & They can buy another Home in an area Not Cracked from the Landslide.... But they're wasting the Buy Out $$$ trying to Stop Nature....

[@Amy-kl1zz]

Your love and passion for the city and its residents is evident. Great information!!

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

@@Amy-kl1zz thank you

[@olivialynnbenavides]

Thank you for the update on the situation it’s incredibly frustrating because when there’s no Press people can’t know. I will follow you and share this video on my social media. I am a retired equestrian and the riding club in PB is the most beautiful one in the world and I’m worried about how this will affect it.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

its changing a lot. hope they can slow it down

[@desertlandscapecreations577]

This is WORSE than living g in a third world country!!!!!!!

[@Headtube]

Look at the devastation going on around the country (and world) from climate change and then listen to the sob stories in Palos Verdes. This story pales in comparison. If you're going to help some one.....help people who've lost EVERYTHING.....not just their utility connections.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

yes, the last few weeks have had some massive devistation

[@Cross-xm2fr]

Where can we donate

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

swipesimple.com/links/lnk_e7d2bca4a33ddaf7734eff322d18b99e

[@Marty647]

Never trust a Realtor.

[@claudermiller]

IDGAF.

[@bypinkerton892]

It is a Guarantee that it will never be Fixed..... The $$$ being used to Dewater is from years of Property taxes that is No Longer Growing.... It's a Waste of $$$ that Should be used to Give the Property Owner's to Relocate...

[@deadbeat9126]

These people are wealthy, they don't need help. They will be fine....

[@jceddy1]

Yep, they're rich. We all know that. But honestly, I'd rather see the government help out here than send another $10b to a foreign country to buy more weapons from us. Feels better to help out citizens than fund global death and destruction IMO

[@DouglasRobinson1210]

Greed,more greed over the people and a fault zone too

[@rzellmer219]

would it be cheaper to just pay the homeowners for what they paid for the property vs spending $$ to continue to try and fix day after day.. of course no homeowner is going to be ok with just getting what they paid at least the ones that bought 40 years ago.. the ones that bought in the past 2 years would be happy i'm sure.. I thought it's less than 300 homes affected, but not for sure.

[@pineddy3001]

Sell your belongings and move into a tent and give proceeds to these millionaires!

[@mikeperdew2719]

Dond build your house on a sand dune

[@debl9957]

I'd think it would be less expensive for everyone to have the local government buy out the homeowners and let nature take over the land. Trying to fix what, in the end, can't be fixed will eat up a lot of tax dollars. Heartbreaking to hear the resident's story here.

[@PalosVerdesHouses]

that may be an option

[@bypinkerton892]

I came up with an idea to replace structures with levels to RV park.... Paying those homeowners a share of the RV Park... Giving them a lifelong income.... & They may want to get an RV & stay there to continue to Enjoy the Views..... Check your lost & found for my removed comments....

[@BetAgain2]

FED must print 1 billion for these victims now.

[@RNBarbaraP]

The Fed is all of US. WE pay for these people who chose to build homes in this unstable area that they KNEW had issues!

[@evecarrington562]

@@RNBarbaraP This person is being sarcastic.

[@GailJordan-ox8zg]

Beautiful views, and love pepper trees, too bad with the land movement, maybe just leave the land alone make it a preserve. What a mess, maybe Biden can help these people out instead of sending our tax money to the Ukraine.....just saying.