Inside Factor Bikes | GCN Tours The Factor HQ

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@rayzberg
@rayzberg 7 жыл бұрын
This was probably the most factor-y tour I've seen
@earthstick
@earthstick 7 жыл бұрын
Contender for comment of the week.
@NielsHeldens
@NielsHeldens 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like controlled production is an important _factor_ in the build of these bikes.
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 7 жыл бұрын
No puns!
@racingsponga
@racingsponga 7 жыл бұрын
😂
@gcn
@gcn 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Factor Bikes and owner Rob Gitelis for showing us around their factory. What fascinates you about the Factor bikes factory tour most? Let us know!
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 7 жыл бұрын
Just the whole everything, Si, thanks for another excellent tour, but a few specifics about this tour would be that they downsized to build their own brand, the involvement/influence of David Miller, that they test other frames and build theirs to take harder hits, that their frames are painted by a person and not a robot. And that their factory is situated in a sort of Silicon Valley for the cycling industry, amazing. And just curious--if we take the factory tour, will David be screening his movie in the theater next to the gift shop? And that's a grin for anyone who has ever taken a factory tour of whatever in Hawaii. Hey everybody, let's sing Tiny Bubbles before we get there.
@milanbabic92
@milanbabic92 7 жыл бұрын
That his head is brighter than my future.
@RixterNow
@RixterNow 7 жыл бұрын
Global Cycling Network did Si wash his hands after his crisps, before fondling the raw carbon frames?
@MBergyman
@MBergyman 7 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised to see them testing and spec'ing their frames independent of other components, but it would be nice to see them making sure they are integrating their layup designs to work optimally with the components they intend to install on their frames. The entire high end industry is moving toward highly integrated, purpose-built products. If factor was smart, they would optimise their frame dynamics to complent the other parts, i.e. the frame stiffness plays nice with the crank stiffness, the seat post flexibility, etc. Maybe they do actually do this, but testing a frame by itself and pulling out all the other system variables is kind of meaningless to someone who needs a whole bike to realize any value in it.
@MBergyman
@MBergyman 7 жыл бұрын
Mike Taglione just because everything can be more controlled doesn't me an that it actually is. I am certain they probably check these things, it was just mentioned explicitly that they check things on the frame in isolation. I would argue that is not actually important from an end-user perspective.
@zombierider2794
@zombierider2794 7 жыл бұрын
Love these bike manufacturing vids. Its like hows its made...GCN style
@gcn
@gcn 7 жыл бұрын
+Cycling Bodybuilder thanks!
@covboy70
@covboy70 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely shows just how far GCN has come (no doubt with help from rhe Discovery network most recently) that they now get to do all these factory visits and get the access they do at events etc. Is GCN now arguably the biggest overall broadcaster of cycling?
@zombierider2794
@zombierider2794 7 жыл бұрын
Paul Fitzpatrick they probably are the biggest cycling network for sure. Gmbn is also pretty big
@Gkuljian
@Gkuljian 7 жыл бұрын
As a designer/mechanical engineer, I found their redesign methods and criteria very informing. I love seeing the relatively unrelated methods of determining strength. With all of the people I've known in the industry, I don't know how I didn't end up in a place like that. I guess I just like riding more than working. Also that bit about not having to up their safety factor to account for factory bozos is revealing.
@carlodelmazo8322
@carlodelmazo8322 6 жыл бұрын
man im thinking exactly the same, im industrial designer and wondering why I didn't thought about applying to work for a company like that lol, im seriously thinking is time for a switch of job lol
@jonathandavies9355
@jonathandavies9355 7 жыл бұрын
Those are beautiful bikes
@Ryan97beyond
@Ryan97beyond 6 жыл бұрын
it better be. they cost 5k each.
@kimrice394
@kimrice394 7 жыл бұрын
Making carbon bikes is an art form! Finished product is so beautiful and functional.
@xGshikamaru
@xGshikamaru 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see GTN do the same thing with their Cervélo P5x ;)
@jimiefoxx
@jimiefoxx 6 жыл бұрын
Proudly made in Taiwan! I like it!
@bernardo9202
@bernardo9202 4 жыл бұрын
China you may want to say, one of the most expensive companies in the market, and cut costs in the productions like crazy
@TheSailingCyclist
@TheSailingCyclist 7 жыл бұрын
Seeing you guys on those bikes has made me want one sooo bad ....a thing of beauty
@willd0g
@willd0g 5 жыл бұрын
GCN have such great presenters and Si is no exception especially in this Vid
@dtshifter
@dtshifter 7 жыл бұрын
I love the short head tubes on the Factor road bikes. Too many other makers have a totem pole out front.
@jbratt
@jbratt 5 жыл бұрын
John O'Neill yeah that was the determining factor for me getting one of these frames. ( pun not intended)👍
@inigoh
@inigoh 7 жыл бұрын
Damn. That Head of Design has to have one of the coolest first names out there! 😅😅😉😉
@DrJRMCFC
@DrJRMCFC 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. The owner is extremely interesting. Super work GCN
@TheRedduck1
@TheRedduck1 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Si, I just got mine yesterday. Bike is AMAZING, looks are drop dead gorgeous. Your video was very instrumental in helping me make my decision to purchase one, thank you!
@v90cross2
@v90cross2 4 жыл бұрын
TheRedduck1 how’s ur long term experiences on factor bike ? I heard that the frame is not strong enough like other major bike frames.
@TheRedduck1
@TheRedduck1 4 жыл бұрын
V90 Cross Everything is great, no issues here. Rides like a dream.
@earthstick
@earthstick 7 жыл бұрын
I've been watching Raoul Luescher's videos on bike manufacture. The things he finds are very eye opening and I trust his expertise. I'd like to know more about the manufacturing process now. It's inside the frame that counts. After dropping weights on components how do they know there are no cracks in them? Seeing cracks inside the carbon is hard enough without painting the the part.
@scobrackc
@scobrackc 7 жыл бұрын
Dunno, kinda looked like a small void on the side of the seat-clamp hole to me! Essentially the smaller your process the more you can oversee each individual person and the more you can train them, so you don't get Steve - who used to be from accounting - turning up hungover and just throwing carbon at the mould incorrectly.
@earthstick
@earthstick 7 жыл бұрын
I get that. A smaller hand picked team that you can train and keep an eye on but I think the real gains are in using techniques that avoid human error. Raoul is describing things like semi-rigid internal bladders and expanding mandrels to avoid wrinkles. Using a fallible process and then criticising people for being human isn't very smart.
@scobrackc
@scobrackc 7 жыл бұрын
every process can fail, as Raoul points out even airplane parts can be made incorrectly, or not up to standard, the rate of which increases after lay-offs. It's about catching those parts before they go to a consumer and using better techniques or methods for making them in the first place. Smaller factory can be more picky with the workers it hirers and is more likely to have longer-term workers - assuming it's run correctly. Realistically processes need to be designed around human failure, there's a lot of large scale engineering examples of bad design that leads to human mistakes that leads to major disasters. It's the whole design cycle which needs to have safety worked into it, from adequate material safety factors, to supervision of workers, to accountability of every part/batch, through to end QC.
@baxterwolfe9578
@baxterwolfe9578 6 жыл бұрын
Phased Array Testing is standard for subsurface cracking, its ultrasound technology similar to the types of test used in pregnancy. It basically uses sound waves out of phase, that are reflected back if there is a crack or a void in the material. Have a Google if you want to know more.
@jonburnell532
@jonburnell532 7 жыл бұрын
That burnt orange frame looked stunning!
@myrules1010
@myrules1010 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and beautiful bikes. I want two.
@small-n-fun2061
@small-n-fun2061 7 жыл бұрын
Lol I was cycling when you uploaded this!
@gcn
@gcn 7 жыл бұрын
+Tom Melton 15 minute break and back to the bike?
@small-n-fun2061
@small-n-fun2061 7 жыл бұрын
Lol yea!
@egle1688
@egle1688 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my the plant is located in my home town! no wonder I often see Rob and his amazing RB O2.
@Alex46312
@Alex46312 7 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video!
@luv2bike35
@luv2bike35 7 жыл бұрын
Great Vid; nice tour of the factory, very informative. We all know by now GCN has sponsors, and good for that, you can bring us more great videos! But would love to see you do something with a Titanium bike builder, non-racer who doesn't ride carbon would love the diversity! Cheers!
@SKBKER
@SKBKER 7 жыл бұрын
Most stuff is made in Taiwan but designed where the company is based . My Scott Spark had 'made in Taiwan' and I believe the Open frames are made in Taiwan too . Heck even some Chinese branded frames are pretty decent . Might get one to try soon ,
@SurpriseMeJT
@SurpriseMeJT 7 жыл бұрын
The Factor bikes are made in China. I believe Giant bicycles are based in Taiwan and made in Taiwan, plus they cost way less.
@geekotron
@geekotron 7 жыл бұрын
I love Factor because they dont hide the fact that their bikes are built in Asia. The best bikes comes out of Taiwan anyways and some company are still shy about telling that to their costumers. Its nuts.
@FaigMir
@FaigMir 3 жыл бұрын
Pinarello)
@ozantargal4066
@ozantargal4066 7 жыл бұрын
pendulum test seems misleading since the whole frame with its supports on ground are moving when the pendulum hits. this movement shows that some of the force applied is transformed to movement instead of being absorbed by seatstay. such tests on specific parts should be done while the frame is fixed where momentum of the mechanism cannot be transformed to movement.
@happydays8171
@happydays8171 5 жыл бұрын
Ozan Targal -- Still it's a lot better than most bike companies that sub out their work to inexpensive subcontractors everywhere in Tiawan.
@MauricioAlsinaLee
@MauricioAlsinaLee 7 жыл бұрын
5:30 When you open your Xmas gift and it's jet another pair of regular woolen socks (imagine you live in Australia or the Caribe). Amazing vid, guys!
@tom-lk
@tom-lk 2 жыл бұрын
Like how Factor is so honest about their frames being manufactured in Taiwan and even opened their doors to GCN, unlike the other big brands.
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 2 жыл бұрын
They're made in China, not Taiwan. The part in the middle where they can't visit the Chinese factory because of visa issues? They're designed and painted in Taiwan, and made in China.
@tom-lk
@tom-lk 2 жыл бұрын
@@pierrex3226 Thanks for the clarification Pierre, a question for you? Is SEKA made in the same factory as Factor? The finish to the amateur eyes are so close, just slight diff in design lines
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 2 жыл бұрын
@@tom-lk idk about that. But my next frame will be a Chinese one, for me to experiment. Im a geek and like experimenting, which is not the case for most people. From my "research", if you hesitate between a Seka and a factor, buy a Seka, unless you don't look at prices. I care about value more than price. Brands like specialized and factor offer terrible value. Seka seem to make very high end frames at lower prices (not low, but lower).
@tom-lk
@tom-lk 2 жыл бұрын
@@pierrex3226 appreciate the feedback Pierre, i think value matters cos we're not following some social media trends here - we do our research to find the best quality bikes for the money, not who got the most likes right. The only thing that big brand offers are technology, they have endless resources to perform so many tests (incl wind tunnel) and good resale value - Having said that, based on my research these big brands are made in only a number of chinese factories , so these tech will be easily trickled down to the other chinese brands just have find which ones.
@dtem938
@dtem938 7 жыл бұрын
FACTOR has one of the gorgeous silhouette in their O2.
@pedalleveoficial
@pedalleveoficial 5 жыл бұрын
É muito bom ver o quanto é estudado cada comportamento do quadro em diversas situações. Valeu! It's great to see how much each bike is studied in various situations. Nice!
@Endurancemech
@Endurancemech 4 жыл бұрын
Verdade, sempre tive interesse por essa marca, que é bem rara de se ver no Brasil.
@karlwalters3763
@karlwalters3763 5 жыл бұрын
Would definitely love to have the 02 VAM!
@Factor.y776
@Factor.y776 Жыл бұрын
congratulations i bought it!
@neilneumann2027
@neilneumann2027 3 жыл бұрын
Nice PR video.
@wio_flying5534
@wio_flying5534 7 жыл бұрын
I know that they made them in Asia because it's cheaper. But I would love to be sure that people working there get a proper salary and working hours (I would pay more for bike like that).
@Wacoal34d
@Wacoal34d 7 жыл бұрын
The insight into how the design might need to account for worker error was very interesting. Also more emphasis on the entrepreneurial factor would be good. Overall 2 thumbs up!
@gcn
@gcn 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin!
@llavero5
@llavero5 7 жыл бұрын
5:22 frame is not fixed to the ground? frame is moving to the side absorbing the impacts...
@sc0608023
@sc0608023 7 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly ;D
@julesgraham6186
@julesgraham6186 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure what make of rear mech is fitted to the bike in the back ground but the jockey wheels are huge!!! Well in comparison to what I’m used to anyway. See 2 mins 14 secs.
@benwalters4484
@benwalters4484 7 жыл бұрын
It's from a brand called Ceramic speed. They make high end component, helping save a small amount of watts. Their bearings are ceramic, instead of steel, and their jockey wheels are massive (17t instead of 11) as it means the chain doesn't bend as much, which uses less energy. They're expensive, so not worth thinking about for 99% of cyclists, but it works.
@edwardjednacz1641
@edwardjednacz1641 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a disk brake model in the future?
@robertphillips3078
@robertphillips3078 3 жыл бұрын
Thx 4 sharing . Very interesting. Rob Getilis ( Gee l hope l have his surname spelt correctly 😀) Love his passion & the FACT..or that he showed us how they test & stress frames. Would ❤ 2 own a few of there bikes. With a couple of tweaks. 1) THM FULL CARBON CRANKSET & 2) LOOK Keo Ti Carbon Pedals. Very expensive upgrades plus Dura Ace 12 speed groupset.
@EUK007
@EUK007 4 жыл бұрын
Im just wondering which former brand of bike are they making before the owner decides to have his own brand?
@briancohen1967
@briancohen1967 7 жыл бұрын
David involvement is he supplying the epo
@happydays8171
@happydays8171 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Joshua -- No Brian, the supplying of EPO is from a Dr. Michele Ferarri who resides in Italy. But heroin would be good for you, you can find that anywhere in your trailer park.
@earthstick
@earthstick 7 жыл бұрын
I was fascinated by the early bikes this company made like the Vis Vires because they were quirky and made just a bike rides distance from where I grew up. But they don't appear to be the same company anymore. The design elements have continued but the bike used by Ag2r is the least like the originals. I guess they just couldn't get that fork past the UCI.
@craiggreen4388
@craiggreen4388 7 жыл бұрын
Nice of Factor to let GCN 'in'. It's just taken 15mins to go from disliking their bikes to liking them a lot.
@jaycollins6792
@jaycollins6792 7 жыл бұрын
Did you get to keep these band boys si?
@CarlForde
@CarlForde 7 жыл бұрын
they put the bearing races in before painting and then don't protect them from the paint? Am I missing something?
@he1z
@he1z 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe I've missed it, but does Factor include any real world testing, with fully build up bikes riding on real roads in their design proces?
@simonrichardson5259
@simonrichardson5259 7 жыл бұрын
he1z Yeah, I think the AG2R team are a pretty good test team.
@robertwhyte3435
@robertwhyte3435 4 жыл бұрын
Don't touch before painting. Glove up!
@richardhill194
@richardhill194 7 жыл бұрын
so did Simon paint the frame that he rode in the KOM challenge?
@koko-lores
@koko-lores 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, you did the KOM Challenge in Taiwan? Why didn't you tell us?
@tarmacsurfers
@tarmacsurfers 7 жыл бұрын
Did I hear that right.....30mm or 13mm deflection at the end of the crank with 105kg on the drive side? Sounded like 30mm which is surprising.
@romeroadrian7312
@romeroadrian7312 7 жыл бұрын
tarmacsurfers yeah, I heard 30 mm
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 7 жыл бұрын
same, quite a bit of bendage, is it not?
@mihpop9733
@mihpop9733 7 жыл бұрын
I think he read it wrong, 13 or 30mm is a lot in terms of deflection. i could have been 1.3 or 3.0 mm which seems more plausible .
@tarmacsurfers
@tarmacsurfers 7 жыл бұрын
Mike Pop this is what I was thinking. I cannot recall seeing an engineers clock gauge go up to 30mm, plus this doesn't sound like a very stiff BB! 😂
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 7 жыл бұрын
This is gonna blow up on Twitter! Getelis better go into damage control mode. ^^
@robertomonsivais1806
@robertomonsivais1806 4 жыл бұрын
La mejor bicicleta del mundo. Saludos
@thomashawley59
@thomashawley59 7 жыл бұрын
Where was Baden?
@renatocosta811
@renatocosta811 Жыл бұрын
This bike was really easy to assemble kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
@ElonMuckX
@ElonMuckX 7 жыл бұрын
Are they working on any graphene frames/components?
@mattstorey7683
@mattstorey7683 5 жыл бұрын
I love David Millar but his dress sense is something else!
@lewis72
@lewis72 7 жыл бұрын
You would have thought that the frame stiffness test would have been done with the crank arm at around 90 degrees, or whatever correcpsonds to the typical rider's crank angle at max. pedal force. I'm sure it isn't at the angle it's at !! Still, it sounds as though some real engineering thought has gone into this.
@mitchellsteindler
@mitchellsteindler 7 жыл бұрын
By my intuition, flex isn't necessarily highest at the point in the pedal stroke where you make the most power. Anyway, as long as they're consistent with the angle it shouldn't matter where they test it.
@lewis72
@lewis72 7 жыл бұрын
No, it isn't necessarily at the highest point in the pedal stroke. However, it's at the highest crank torque that is where you want the highest stiffness to get the force to the back wheel and not store it as elastic energy. What you'd really want is a bridged strain gauge on each tube to be measuring strains as a function of crank angle. What this comes down to is that I would like to understand the reasoning behind them doing the test at that set up.
@parkysouthlondon
@parkysouthlondon 7 жыл бұрын
I would do multiple test, with the same load in each, but with the crank arm at every ten degrees around the pedal stroke. Then find the position with max deflection.
@lewis72
@lewis72 7 жыл бұрын
...which is what I said.
@Urgento22
@Urgento22 7 жыл бұрын
more videos like this!!!
@gcn
@gcn 7 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Urgento on the way!
@chrisshelton3856
@chrisshelton3856 7 жыл бұрын
Nine Panerai watch the owner is wearing. Might need to purchase a bike now.
@TobiasDahlhaus
@TobiasDahlhaus 7 жыл бұрын
Love my factor o2
@v90cross2
@v90cross2 4 жыл бұрын
Still have it. Has was it ?? Need some long term review
@TobiasDahlhaus
@TobiasDahlhaus 4 жыл бұрын
@@v90cross2 was nice yeah. Cracked it twice though. Too delicate. Much prefer my emonda slr 2021
@v90cross2
@v90cross2 4 жыл бұрын
Tobias Dahlhaus yeah that’s what I’m worried little bit. I heard that the frame is not strong as much as other major frames like giant trek specialized. Can you describe what happened ?
@TobiasDahlhaus
@TobiasDahlhaus 4 жыл бұрын
@@v90cross2 first time was top tube in a crash. Second time a random crack in seattube. Maybe their newer ones are stronger.
@frankmeiring5164
@frankmeiring5164 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Been living in Taiwan for a long time. The "wan" in "Taiwan" should be pronounced like "won". Keep up the great content guys!
@Nepo35
@Nepo35 7 жыл бұрын
Frank Meiring errr taiwan in chinese is 台湾. The hànyú pīnyīn or chinese romanization for 台湾 is táiwān. Not tai"won". Bilingual speaker here...
@frankmeiring5164
@frankmeiring5164 7 жыл бұрын
Nepo35 I agree. But to be clear it should not be pronounced "wan" where "a" pronounced as in "cat". I am fluent too...
@frankmeiring5164
@frankmeiring5164 7 жыл бұрын
GCN的人沒有學過中文。用漢語拼音解釋台灣的發音沒有意義。我就是在用英文的"won"因為很接台灣的“灣“正確的發音。這樣GCN的人最容易了解。不需要在這邊炫耀。我的目的就是幫助GCN用到正確的發音,所以別人不會誤會台灣是泰國。如果你現在住在台灣的話,我們改天找時間討論吧。。。聖誕節快樂
@sarethums
@sarethums 7 жыл бұрын
Im not really that fussed. Ill pronounce it how you like when people from taiwan can pronounce my name or at least my countries name.
@SantiagoGT15
@SantiagoGT15 7 жыл бұрын
They didn't show any of the parts after the tests tho...
@Timtimzi
@Timtimzi 7 жыл бұрын
I would love one... but no dealers near me :(
@kargs5krun
@kargs5krun 7 жыл бұрын
What "pro" race bikes does FACTOR make in this factory? (Road/TT/Track) Any? +GCN
@yangguan4070
@yangguan4070 7 жыл бұрын
please visit giant factory!
@happydays8171
@happydays8171 5 жыл бұрын
Yang Guan Tang -- That will NEVER happen, you'll see how most Specialized, Trek, and Cannondales are made. And an occasional Giant.
@sandrochiavaroBeerCircles
@sandrochiavaroBeerCircles 7 жыл бұрын
Did you see yourselves switching to Factor from Canyon?
@drsus0
@drsus0 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting... its a “UK” brand, owned by an American but built in their factory in Taiwan.
@stevebrown7281
@stevebrown7281 3 жыл бұрын
I own a OSTRO it’s great seeing what goes into a £5k frame set money well spent I love it you can’t put a price on happiness🥳
@urby1720
@urby1720 7 жыл бұрын
Sexy looking frames!!
@leedorney
@leedorney 7 жыл бұрын
Millars appearance in this video, was near frightfull...why does he always look worried about something, nervy and wanting to be elsewhere ? when i seen him back in the day at the cycleshow (when he was on drugs) he looked ok...strange.
@FeintMotion
@FeintMotion 7 жыл бұрын
He looks exactly as flighty and over-it here as he always did, really.
@workingguy-OU812
@workingguy-OU812 7 жыл бұрын
Was pretty interested until I saw the prices. Wow. Too many 10-person to 15-person wrecks in the group rides to chance a bike like that.
@ketjuariittaa
@ketjuariittaa 7 жыл бұрын
30mm? Thats 3cm. That can’t be right
@louiscormier12
@louiscormier12 7 жыл бұрын
Had the same thought
@mrjakobt
@mrjakobt 7 жыл бұрын
I guess he said 13mm.
@thenerdycanadian7172
@thenerdycanadian7172 7 жыл бұрын
he said 30, but if you look at the gauge is says 0-10mm so really each 10 is only really 1mm
@denisdrc5836
@denisdrc5836 7 жыл бұрын
5:23 auuch it actually hurts
@mds4244
@mds4244 4 ай бұрын
Switched from Specialized after being a lifelong S-works user. The Ostro Vam is better in all regards; price, handling, aesthetics, and build quality.
@Yuki-nj2df
@Yuki-nj2df 3 жыл бұрын
im surprised yall dont got 10 mill
@siafilia3935
@siafilia3935 6 жыл бұрын
Do Giant factory tour. Thumbs up if you all agree
@marianomenconi264
@marianomenconi264 6 жыл бұрын
China factory and test on England? How many brand work like this?
@abumaawi2266
@abumaawi2266 7 жыл бұрын
in my opinion la kan... yall should do economics design not just top notch expensive.. bike for junior cylist cyling is going good
@johnbouttell5827
@johnbouttell5827 7 жыл бұрын
In the Tour the bikes will always be painted -- and covered with adverts
@FrekeOne
@FrekeOne 7 жыл бұрын
Great
@edwardwatson6606
@edwardwatson6606 6 жыл бұрын
What about Factor track bikes
@youetznab
@youetznab 7 жыл бұрын
David Miller sounds and looks like Bike Cumberbatch.
@felixfortin9997
@felixfortin9997 7 жыл бұрын
Where’s that veganism vid?? Wasn’t it supposed to come out on friday?
@gcn
@gcn 7 жыл бұрын
+Félix Fortin coming this week Felix
@felixfortin9997
@felixfortin9997 7 жыл бұрын
Will Reyes it’s legit i think it’s like ” can you be a vegan pro cyclist ? ”
@earthstick
@earthstick 7 жыл бұрын
Be careful, his 'community' are very sensitive about these things.
@charliewhiskey8440
@charliewhiskey8440 7 жыл бұрын
13:03 Not a good idea to breath in that stuff!
@abrahamalkhatib9762
@abrahamalkhatib9762 7 жыл бұрын
#Torqueback My Coach is making me ride 4 to 5 hours of endurance rides 3 to four times in a week(very mentally demanding). I am planning to start my first race around fall 2018. Right now I can do 150 kilometers with 32 avs on my own. I live in shanghai(dry winter) and the only place I could train is a 13 kilometer course that is 60 mins away from my house. It would benefit a lot if I can do shorter and harder rides. But if I do start doing short intervals instead of long hours in the saddle, what will I loose? My coach said that if we were racing and that I just could not keep up for the last one hour if I do short intervals. He is making me do long rides over the winter to build up my base. Any advice? I am 14 btw and have a dream of becoming a pro.
@simonbradley7031
@simonbradley7031 7 жыл бұрын
Was under the belief that Factor bikes are a UK company, is this correct cos obviously the guy who started it ain't?
@earthstick
@earthstick 7 жыл бұрын
Not anymore, they were sold.
@anparsons70
@anparsons70 7 жыл бұрын
I think they used to be a part of Carbon Technologies, based in Diss in Norfolk. Not sure they ever made any bikes there, but it is still a bespoke motorsport facility.
@kidkarbon4775
@kidkarbon4775 7 жыл бұрын
factor bike started as an offshoot of bf1systems in Norfolk who do composites & electronics for motorsports, it was then sold to Carbon Composites Bike Asia the last bike designed with influence from the original team was the Vis Vires, everything now is now mass produced & popped out of a generic jelly mold in Asia like every other manufacturer. That's why the twin vane split down tube has gone, it's time consuming & creates additional manufacturing challenges.
@earthstick
@earthstick 7 жыл бұрын
These are my thoughts as well. I was thrilled that they were designed and made in Diss as I grew up in Stowmarket. The attraction is disappearing now that they are just another cookie cutter manufacturer. I bet what happened was the bikes were too radical to be UCI legal and they had sunk a lot of money into the company. The only way to go was to make more normal bikes. The staff probably weren't interested so the company was sold to recoup the investment cost.
@JogBird
@JogBird 7 жыл бұрын
Factor must have paid loads for this ad.
@swimseven77
@swimseven77 7 жыл бұрын
Doesn't watch whole video. Leaves negative comment. Charming...
@ozan3076
@ozan3076 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe a free bike?
@mrjakobt
@mrjakobt 7 жыл бұрын
The've visited plent of manufacturers.
@brianschiff2934
@brianschiff2934 7 жыл бұрын
Ya, 2 built out bikes. Must be nice to get free stuff.
@stevens.7937
@stevens.7937 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm early! Hi mum!
@2wheelsrbest327
@2wheelsrbest327 7 жыл бұрын
Left with the thought that given they are made in China is it worth risking buying a Chinese frame as I am pretty sure many of the big makes are made from the same moulds. Pension will not allow me to buy the real mc coy.
@simonrichardson5259
@simonrichardson5259 7 жыл бұрын
Ted Edwards China is a big country with a lot of carbon manufacture. To have one company building high performance frames doesn’t guarantee all of them!
@simonrichardson5259
@simonrichardson5259 7 жыл бұрын
Ted Edwards China is a big country with a lot of carbon manufacture. To have one company building high performance frames doesn’t guarantee all of them!
@simonrichardson5259
@simonrichardson5259 7 жыл бұрын
Ted Edwards China is a big country with a lot of carbon manufacture. To have one company building high performance frames doesn’t guarantee all of them!
@2wheelsrbest327
@2wheelsrbest327 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reply Si. It just seems like for most of us good quality CF bikes are becoming even more out of our price range. As you know you read good and bad reports on cheap Chinese frames. Best I start saving then !
@rutiguer6092
@rutiguer6092 5 жыл бұрын
Is Iñigo.Not Inigo.
@Johnconno
@Johnconno 3 жыл бұрын
They look very nice, but let's face it, they're not Raleigh. Are they?
@budesmatpicu3992
@budesmatpicu3992 7 жыл бұрын
who the hell needs these paper frames, makes no sense apart from top racing applications - why deep sub-kilo when few hundred grams can make it orders of magnitude impac resistant, esp. in areas like they describe (rear tubes) that are often neglected (unlike e.g. forks which are at least known to be a failure-prone, see Raoul Luescher channel)
@SurpriseMeJT
@SurpriseMeJT 7 жыл бұрын
That's why we should ride more steel, made from builders based in the same continent as ourselves.
@simonrichardson5259
@simonrichardson5259 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting question! Worth bearing in mind that adding material isn’t just going to change strength, but also ride quality. Light weight frames reportedly have a more lively feel which is deadened by additional layers. Maybe people are happy with the trade off.
@BlazingBigJointz
@BlazingBigJointz 5 жыл бұрын
Ride a 6.5kg bike up a mountain and your question will be answered.
@michaelkennedy4444
@michaelkennedy4444 4 жыл бұрын
30mm deflection are you sure ? That’s over an inch.
@emmfueable
@emmfueable 6 жыл бұрын
if I was rich I would buy it all
@dragonnetx
@dragonnetx 4 жыл бұрын
Factor? Never heard of it.
@janwillemkuilenburg7561
@janwillemkuilenburg7561 7 жыл бұрын
11.50 Do not touch the primed frame without gloves!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@HarleyBreakoutGuy
@HarleyBreakoutGuy 6 жыл бұрын
If you want to buy this bike you had better factor in the costs of owning it.
@kidkarbon4775
@kidkarbon4775 7 жыл бұрын
Wish these companies would cease working with and endorsing hypocritical dopers like Millar, he talks reformed character but has never stated where he got his gear from or whom else knew, he also never contributed to the circ report. For cycling to change the cost of cheating needs to be higher, Millar has a successful commentating career & sponsorship deals with companies like Maserati - get him out of cycling !!
@anparsons70
@anparsons70 7 жыл бұрын
Too bloody right, it's time for St. David to F*** Off and leave this sport new a new (really clean) generation.
@ianiscaratti4924
@ianiscaratti4924 7 жыл бұрын
so the gt riders can't ride the bikes neither or do you seriously believe they'r clean
@kidkarbon4775
@kidkarbon4775 7 жыл бұрын
I never made a statement regarding whom I felt should and should not ride the bikes. I was expressing a desire for companies involved in cycling to present a stronger stance against convicted dopers, along with the people who assist dopers to ensure that they have no future or income from cycling. Until such time that the risk associated with doping is larger than the rewards it will continue with cheating and/or bending the rules for marginal gains or similar. I would like to see the sport of cycling reach a position where it can do better than say "Cheating does not pay, ask multimillionaire Lance Armstrong !!" To answer your question directly regarding GT riders, what evidence have you seen that cycling has changed dramatically since Lance was banned.? The same people run the teams, the same doctors are in the sport, the testing is pretty much the same.... if they were clean in the past, I expect the same now ;P
@SurpriseMeJT
@SurpriseMeJT 7 жыл бұрын
They're made in China, not even Taiwan!
@harrylook7810
@harrylook7810 7 жыл бұрын
Who buys these? Min $10k. I mean, they're great, beautiful, light, but who actually buys them? Never seen one in person.
@legofirearm
@legofirearm 7 жыл бұрын
"Take the risk and die on your ass." - Simon Richardson
@david131092
@david131092 7 жыл бұрын
All carbon frames are made in China. All no name brands learnt their trade from R&D & engineers from big brands. As long as you don’t buy a copy frame all carbon from China is good.
@johnbouttell5827
@johnbouttell5827 7 жыл бұрын
Everything is made in China
@david131092
@david131092 7 жыл бұрын
John Bicycle yup. Not just “made” these days. Because of more successful education systems over in the Far East many brands (not just bike) move their R&D over to China too. It’s just the marketing & tax evasion that’s handled in the West.
@mrjakobt
@mrjakobt 7 жыл бұрын
David Fellows That trend has slowed down a lot. A lot of companies actually backsourced their RnD to western countries.
@janwillemkuilenburg7561
@janwillemkuilenburg7561 7 жыл бұрын
David Fellows All carbon from China is good? Have a look at Luesher Teknik content where frames are cut open and assessed......
@david131092
@david131092 7 жыл бұрын
mrjt yep & their profits take a massive dive because the manufacturing is taken over by the old engineers & New companies started up. - just look @ apples falling profits in China.
@toyafuruyama3964
@toyafuruyama3964 7 жыл бұрын
My road bike has flat pedals and I have a hard time bunny hopping
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