Inside Malaysia's Failed $100 Billion GHOST CITY (shocking)

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Matt and Julia

Matt and Julia

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@MattandJulia
@MattandJulia 8 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed this slightly different video! 🧐 Would you like a long weekend in the ghost town of Malaysia? 😉❤️
@carlosbarra6236
@carlosbarra6236 8 ай бұрын
Bonjour, je vous pose des questions. Vous n'avez rien répondu, je me suis abonnée pour rien. Je crois, bonne journée.
@sallysampson628
@sallysampson628 8 ай бұрын
Nope!! Too scary for me!! X
@NigelOrmsvik
@NigelOrmsvik 8 ай бұрын
Had a feeling almost like "The last of us" game. Spooky😮
@stevechilders2624
@stevechilders2624 8 ай бұрын
The beach certainly looks beautiful, but I’m sure it’s too hot to sunbathe. And I am not too sure about the swimming. I really do enjoy your videos.
@stevechilders2624
@stevechilders2624 8 ай бұрын
Make sure you prod people to subscribe. I checked and somehow I had been unsubscribed, but I’m now subscribed again.
@cqbarnieify
@cqbarnieify 8 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the set of a post-apocalyptic sci-fi movie. It looks creepy, intriguing and oddly beautiful. The foliage is gorgeous. The black mold and the crocodiles though, make the place a hard pass for me.
@AidanChinSungLing
@AidanChinSungLing 7 ай бұрын
I'm in Forest City right now. It's quite empty but the non-tourist occupancy rate is rising. But for a place which is built for tourists, I find it ironic I kept being approached by security guards and told not to film in the buildings. Its a very irritating experience.
@Перосвет
@Перосвет 25 күн бұрын
you can, нам не разрешено это записывать, потому что, чтобы скрыть провал, местные жители даже жили под мостом, и некоторые из них являются бездомными, самое смешное, что их власти говорят, что люди не должны полагаться на правительство. вместо этого они жили на народный налог you go palau panang place good
@lindauhrig1513
@lindauhrig1513 8 ай бұрын
That is so fascinating, but, yes, surreal! It has such potential and really is a nice idea.
@dweamy1
@dweamy1 8 ай бұрын
Reminds me a bit of the London Docklands area back in the day, huge hype then financial crash and developers struggling to sell the flats. Today the Docklands is full and buzzing.
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 8 ай бұрын
That scale not seen in Malaysia. Takes time.
@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT
@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT 8 ай бұрын
It will take decades before the Chinese propert crisis has been sold. Maybe the Malaysian government could buy it cheap and attract other foreign buyers?
@millie9236
@millie9236 8 ай бұрын
Get rid of the black mold first.
@johndoh5182
@johndoh5182 7 ай бұрын
@@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT Apparently you don't understand WHY these places aren't selling. You can't sell something cheap, when people are going to buy places expecting it to last decades because after all it's housing and cheap is still expensive, but that's not what happens with Tofu Dreg construction. Buildings like this are falling apart in CHINA ALL THE TIME, built by the very company(s) that built this project and don't for a second start to think they built it better outside of China because BRI projects around the world are experiencing problems because of poor construction. There was a housing complex just last week, built in the last 30 years that had to be demolished because it separated, where two segments of the building separated from each other which created of course all kinds of problems including gas leaks, but when a segment of the building that was leaning had part of the top fall away, it was demolished the next day. ALL THE TIME this happens in China and their BRI projects outside of China. These were built with the expectation that Chinese people would buy these places because the units were NEVER priced in a range that Malaysians could afford, and the ones who could enjoy their own places already, in the towns where they're from. There's also at least 2 ghost cities IN China.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 7 ай бұрын
Docklands has a great location and buildings that are constructed properly that will increase in value.
@ABRock6
@ABRock6 8 ай бұрын
Imagine you are a streamer who works from home and live here..... it's like a dream
@pokerdealer2003
@pokerdealer2003 8 ай бұрын
Thats a straight up Nightmare, wake me up please.
@Miner-49
@Miner-49 8 ай бұрын
Not really, you would worry about it falling down because of tofu dreg construction. Those towers will be a rotting, rusty heap within another decade.
@TheJadedSkeptic
@TheJadedSkeptic 7 ай бұрын
@@Miner-49 you're sad
@vincentyeo88
@vincentyeo88 7 ай бұрын
So you want to live without a community?
@CastorRabbit
@CastorRabbit 7 ай бұрын
@@vincentyeo88 I do!
@agneswatson9592
@agneswatson9592 8 ай бұрын
What a weird place. Definitely very odd vibes. As you say more questions than answers. As always thanks for the insight. ❤
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 8 ай бұрын
Funny twist and spin ! Nothing "weird" about apartment building complexes .
@sandrashane677
@sandrashane677 7 ай бұрын
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 empty cities are extremely weird. get a grip on reality.
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 7 ай бұрын
@@sandrashane677 Fake news and disinformation > ghost city/town There are only abandoned high-rise, condo-apartment complexes .
@louispaine5307
@louispaine5307 8 ай бұрын
One of the best yet!!! Thank you guys.
@aldarimana1743
@aldarimana1743 6 ай бұрын
Oh yeahh 😂😅😅😅😅
@stevekent1792
@stevekent1792 8 ай бұрын
Wow that is mental...so interesting brilliant video
@marcpaloma2262
@marcpaloma2262 8 ай бұрын
Truly fascinating! Thank you both for sharing.
@aleksandarbrzic8351
@aleksandarbrzic8351 8 ай бұрын
What a beautiful place actually, and the peace and quiet may be a bit eerie but after a couple of days or nights in most Asian cities, it could be quite nice too, I guess. I hope they succeed in the future though!
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 8 ай бұрын
If I hv the money, I do not mind living in a tax free zone like this. No annoying neighbours at the villas
@dlughie
@dlughie 7 ай бұрын
My dad has an apartment unit here. Its not as bad as the video made it out to be. We are not from Malaysia but from Indonesia, we do use this place as a second home so rarely here but we maintain it well. Currently we are staying here for midterm stay. But most of the units arent purchased by malaysians and act as a second home thus not many people stay here long term. But they do have a functioning school that is attended by child of parents living here. And the residents constitutes of mostly foreigners. In my floor out of the 8 units 5 are resided and renovated but the other 3 is sold out but the owners never did anything to them as they are not from here. In my building there are Koreans, Chinese and Indonesians staying here. Its actually quite lovely and lively. We stay at ataraxia park 1 overlooking a swimming pool and its used daily by the residents almost all the time with minimum occupancy so you can enjoy the pool to your group if you time accordingly. The tennis courts and basketball courts are daily used too. Facilities are complete and whats great is due to the place not being so crowded the air is always great, barely any pollution. So if you like a modern atmosphere but want to do a getaway I think this place is the best of both worlds. The only downside i would say is that you need a car here as public transport to the downtown are of Johor is not frequent and its quite a ways away. But if you commute to singapore itll take you to the heart of singapore in 45 mins driving during non rush hour times.
@Ameng3471
@Ameng3471 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for being a supportive neighbour. We welcome you anytime anyday
@6Haunted-Days
@6Haunted-Days 7 ай бұрын
Yea whatever…..no one was lying or trying to lie…..what TF…..you’re the one who’s obviously lying….and I’m sure you didn’t even watch the video
@andrewstones2921
@andrewstones2921 7 ай бұрын
It’s hard for British people to understand Asia property. Just because few people reside there does not mean it was bad for the developer, most of these users its are sold LONG before they are built. Also, it’s so new that it’s impossible to know what will happen, in Malaysia something that looks unfinished can be completed very very quickly.
@henrikibjensen3869
@henrikibjensen3869 7 ай бұрын
I guess non rush hour is like 00 to 24.😉
@deniseabbott5114
@deniseabbott5114 7 ай бұрын
@@andrewstones2921 I’m not sure they were British also don’t lump us all together. I have travelled a fair bit and visited several Asian countries, Penang in Malaysia is one of my favourite destinations in the entire world, unfortunately my health is too bad to travel any more , in fact we were considering moving to Malaysia in our retirement !
@L2Xenta
@L2Xenta 7 ай бұрын
How Ironic ... "Forest City" actually becoming a forest / jungle.
@vincentyeo88
@vincentyeo88 7 ай бұрын
Tarzan agrees. 🙃🤣
@aldarimana1743
@aldarimana1743 6 ай бұрын
😅😂
@jaylinn416
@jaylinn416 5 ай бұрын
Given the high humidity of this area, molding and rotting of material must be unstoppable. Ankor Wat totally disappeared into the jungle and no one knew it was there.
@knova
@knova 6 ай бұрын
This place is gonna be poppin in 10-20 yrs.
@levinra952
@levinra952 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Im malaysian and staying in Malaysia but didnt know or heard the existence of this place. Such an eye opening.
@fainitesbarley2245
@fainitesbarley2245 8 ай бұрын
It’s so strange that people in the country don’t know about it. Like they didn’t actually want people to move in?
@hermanmoncerate6112
@hermanmoncerate6112 7 ай бұрын
Maybe there is not much publicity in Malaysia because this project was intended mainly for middle income mainland Chinese. I have read, very few Malaysians can afford to live here, anyway.
@capricorn839
@capricorn839 7 ай бұрын
The whole city was built on reclaimed land. Reclaimed land requires many years to settle down otherwise.....good luck to those who bought the property there
@klloo5689
@klloo5689 6 ай бұрын
I'm Malaysian Lol and I've definitely known about Forest City, like in any country there are those who only read tabloid news 😄
@rubadub79
@rubadub79 8 ай бұрын
Looks great, I'd live there. If someone was willing to spend the money, I bet they could make it work. Drop prices, turn half of it into hotels, make it a tourist destination instead of a residential area.
@prodigiii712
@prodigiii712 8 ай бұрын
It’s in Malaysia. The Chinese government instated strict currency controls and the Malaysian government was reluctant to let Chinese buy apartments.
@IA100KPDT
@IA100KPDT 8 ай бұрын
nah, the project failed because DR M wanna restrict Chinese buying. It's well known in Singapore that Malaysian govt like to flip their policies like a pancake (Prata). Thats the reason why although Malaysian properties are 5-10x cheaper than Singapore, not many Singaporeans are rushing to snap them up. I have a friend who bought a terrace house in JB and lost 70-80% of value due to to govt policy changes.
@raymondloke
@raymondloke 8 ай бұрын
It was promoted during the Najip Razak era but when Mahathir became PM again he restricted PRC purchases
@daymay1066
@daymay1066 8 ай бұрын
Madey is a racist.
@Researched-q1q
@Researched-q1q 8 ай бұрын
Get your facts right. This whole project was targeted for rich mainland Chinese people and not Malaysians. Malaysians honestly couldn't care less about this place.
@IA100KPDT
@IA100KPDT 8 ай бұрын
@@Researched-q1q still doesn't change the facts Malaysian govt, esp under dr M, likes to flip their policy like prata. 😆
@raymondloke
@raymondloke 8 ай бұрын
It's built on land owned by the Sultan of Johor also currently the king of Malaysia...there's talk that the proposed high speed rail station will be diverted to Forest City
@Ameng3471
@Ameng3471 7 ай бұрын
It is not land, it is sea. We sold the sea not land. How can you be so ignorant that the city was built on the sea, reclaimed ofcourse. And we sell sea, who else could sell their sea?
@danielregan6399
@danielregan6399 8 ай бұрын
Great vid very strange to see this place thanks for this last weeks vlogg wa good also 👍👍
@lbednaz
@lbednaz 8 ай бұрын
I really appreciate all the research Matt shares with us!
@karmenmiles-mesch9295
@karmenmiles-mesch9295 8 ай бұрын
And Julia....
@Miner-49
@Miner-49 8 ай бұрын
This was built so rich Chinese people could buy up Malaysian property. It was never meant for Malaysians , so the government restricted ownership. All work stopped immediately afterwards. That tells you everything you need to know. Also, the properties are not worth anything. Tofu Dreg construction is why it’s falling apart after 5-8 years. There’s hundreds of these places all over China. Millions upon millions of empty, half finished homes and apartments. That feeling of being watched is real. You were being tracked the entire time.
@Gman979
@Gman979 7 ай бұрын
Dllmcfh. Hhmkachan
@johnsmith-ro2tw
@johnsmith-ro2tw 7 ай бұрын
Chinese construction companies build high rises everywhere in Australia too. And sure enough, the news regularly report about those high rises that have serious construction defects, and are unsafe to live in, leaving the buyer who took a 30 years long loan with the bill.
@Tideo123
@Tideo123 7 ай бұрын
If you follow China Ghosts you will soon become Ghosts of China.
@backupkuzas
@backupkuzas 7 ай бұрын
The scale of the housing bubble is truly absurd
@rekkinregen
@rekkinregen 7 ай бұрын
People were created to be loved. Things were created to be used. The reason why the world is in chaos is because things are being loved, and people are being used.
@michaelw2816
@michaelw2816 8 ай бұрын
Interesting video but a couple of minor quibbles: Forest City is not a Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) project. They tend to be state-backed public infrastructure projects, this is a private real estate venture between County Garden and the Sultan of Johor businesses. Secondly it’s not a $100 billion city, the actual cost is $4 bn.
@SSxxx18
@SSxxx18 8 ай бұрын
No minor, actually. Vloggers mostly copy each other for volume. Dun really care about all facts. It can also a convenient arena to smear BRI and China.
@Sealight007
@Sealight007 8 ай бұрын
Looks like the Sultan keeps pouring money into the place to keep it up. Come back in 5 years. It will probably be booming.
@firerock9320
@firerock9320 7 ай бұрын
@@Sealight007 With Chinese construction? Tofu buildings will collapse in 5 years.
@CaptainKremmen
@CaptainKremmen 7 ай бұрын
The estimate of $100 billion as the budget for the project appears in many reputable sources, including Bloomberg.
@Houthiandtheblowfish
@Houthiandtheblowfish 7 ай бұрын
this is a money laundering scheme and form of capital flight in the name of so called investing
@Meghan-lx7be
@Meghan-lx7be 7 ай бұрын
Such a high quality video. Thanks guys.
@NigelOrmsvik
@NigelOrmsvik 8 ай бұрын
Love your videos, interesting, informative, a great sense of humour, and very well filmed. Keep safe guys 🤗🤗❤️❤️
@malcolmfraser7939
@malcolmfraser7939 7 ай бұрын
I worked in Bahrain in 1995 - 98 . Property development was ahead of population numbers. I was part of a building team , building a shopping centre. When completed only the cinema let in the first year. A year year later a super market and three or four shops. It is a good sign if the toilets flush, grass is cut, streets are clean.
@plonss
@plonss 8 ай бұрын
What a waste of resources :( And in many other parts of the world people cannot find a home. Let alone millions of refugees who have nowhere to go. What a world ....
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 8 ай бұрын
Malaysia can place 100k rohinyas here to make it "vibrant" but they will mess it up like our towns.
@canalesjuan356
@canalesjuan356 8 ай бұрын
It's a commercial project. And you can't force people to like it. That's it.
@NicolasValentinScotland
@NicolasValentinScotland 8 ай бұрын
If you work you can find a home to buy . Refugees can stay where they are .
@henrybutcher9436
@henrybutcher9436 3 ай бұрын
You could just let's those refugees stay at your house and even share your wife for them. You have to shows that you have a big heart before you can ask other to do so.
@plonss
@plonss 3 ай бұрын
@@henrybutcher9436 I am not suggesting that they will stay with Chinese people at home, did I ?
@mkwaku
@mkwaku 6 ай бұрын
I visited last year, and it doesn't seem to be any good updates or positive changes from your current video. It seems doomed unless prices are complslashed and sold to local Malaysians. This was a very good in-depth video. Thanks for sharing
@paulk4662
@paulk4662 8 ай бұрын
Another cracking video guys.
@wnose
@wnose Ай бұрын
Correction: it's not Malaysia who built it, it was built by mainland Chinese developer Country Garden. Damn shame, because all that living space would be hugely welcomed in unaffordable cities like London, NYC or Toronto.
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Ай бұрын
It's not a shame at all that guy is a Asian the land he builds should be for Asians.
@DanielByrnes-t6v
@DanielByrnes-t6v 8 ай бұрын
I don't see a future for this apartment complex.
@hihellokitty85
@hihellokitty85 7 ай бұрын
You're quite nonchalent about black mold. Some kinds are quite toxic.
@angeluscorpius
@angeluscorpius 8 ай бұрын
Chinese Developers make their money by churning out properties like these to sell to Chinese buyers. Chinese buyers do not buy these properties to live, but as investments. They buy apartments (usually their second by now), to hold until the value appreciates, and then sell to get a return on their investment. Forest City failed because a) the pandemic - buyers or potential buyers could not travel to Johor to view the development and put a deposit on their new apartment. b) Then Malaysia had a change of govt and the new govt was not so inviting to Chinese investors, particularly in property. c) Then the Chinese govt also cracked down on property investments, and on outflow of capital, so buyers could not service their mortgage for an apartment or home in Malaysia. And I am sure there were other issues. But overall, the plan and intended customers for Forest City was not based on reality. The plan was to build 700,000 units. On reclaimed islands. And priced for Chinese buyers but not Malaysian (local) buyers. The locals could not afford the units. And where would the 700,000 new home owners work? Are there offices, or businesses for 700,000 employees? The reality is that developers do not worry about the bigger picture. There is no bigger picture for them. Build the units, sell them, then move onto the next development.They have left a trail of ghost cities and uncompleted homes in the wake of the property development crash in China. This just happens to be in Malaysia. There are no industry in Johor that will need 700,000 workers who can afford homes in Forest City.
@Ameng3471
@Ameng3471 7 ай бұрын
No worries. We sold the sea, we kept the money to taxpayer coffers and leave to the buyer to do whatever they want with that sea. Malaysia didnt lose a dime. And malaysia didnt bother to buy the property as we have plenty of landed hose already. Who need house on the sea?
@henrikibjensen3869
@henrikibjensen3869 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the analysis.
@capricorn839
@capricorn839 7 ай бұрын
@@Ameng3471 Probably the local fishermen
@haldepet12
@haldepet12 8 ай бұрын
Well your questions can be easily answered. In fact the stage one is almost sold out. That is no joke. But the company lacks of delivery of delivery. Either they are not finised inside, or the buyers are not allowed to acquire. Because most buyers are Chinese. The cash has already flown for long time, but they cannot become owners because of governmental restrictions. In addition the buyers were promised to get mm2h status, but that will not be the case as they will not fullfil the revised much harder conditions. Whitout mm2h, they cannot move in and so they are hoping to get back the money they spent. Unfortunately, Country Garden has defaulted in their interest payment on their bonds and so the company will soon be delisted from Hongkong Stock Exchange. That means that the company itself will be put under liquidation and therefore they cannot continue operations for the moment. You must consider that Country Garden is only one typical project of the company, there are many others of similar size all around China, which are also sold out but not delivered yet. If there is no solution to this company, it might become the biggest desaster that ever happened in Chinese housing. So there are speculations that the government will step in soon and provid the company with fresh funds, as China cannot afford to liquidate this company. But it is really the last chance. However, it is unliely that this lead into stage 2-4. More likely they will finish stage 1 and find an exeption agreement with the Malay Government, so that the chinese buyers can acquire ownership and MM2H-residency. But this will come to a huge cost as it is hard to deal with Malay Government.
@SafeAndSounds
@SafeAndSounds 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for clarifying.
@es9382
@es9382 7 ай бұрын
So Essentially the Malays fk them...
@Milarz
@Milarz 7 ай бұрын
What info source are you using to determine that "stage one is almost sold out"?
@Aliphatic
@Aliphatic 7 ай бұрын
Get lost chicoms you all bring disasters everywhere you all go
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 7 ай бұрын
It's not sold out, stop repeating empty claims. Dealing with the Malay government is easy, you just have to bribe the right people.
@DogSKiD
@DogSKiD 7 ай бұрын
Turns out i’m in need of a house to live in as i live on the brink of homelessness in Australia and i would be happy to live in that beautiful place with anyone. just thought i might put it out there, just send us some keys and i will move a couple boxes pronto. that place looked SO NICE 👀
@KadeemMann
@KadeemMann 4 ай бұрын
I would too... I wonder what would happen if you made it there would someone stop you from moving in or would they even notice
@chazventura3594
@chazventura3594 4 ай бұрын
​@@KadeemMannIt's in a country run by a King . They might just shoot you .
@SecurityMum
@SecurityMum 4 ай бұрын
Same!
@SalamiCellar
@SalamiCellar 4 ай бұрын
​@KadeemMann if I was you I wouldn't do it, Malaysia doesn't play.
@DogSKiD
@DogSKiD 3 ай бұрын
@@SalamiCellar don’t dance around things with suggestion, say what you really mean. what do you mean by they don’t play? i am no criminal and i try to be nice to everyone and see everyone as there own person, i don’t judge races by the Governments.
@itwork6810
@itwork6810 6 ай бұрын
No annoying neighbours. Just the birds and beauty. Maybe not a bad investment or place to live.
@lindathalman3506
@lindathalman3506 8 ай бұрын
Question: did you do the drone shots? I'm surprised you'd have "permission" to do that... so so strange. Creepy beyond belief.
@alexlong3714
@alexlong3714 8 ай бұрын
How can they turn these places into usable space.? Convert them into high retirement resort style apartments, and market them to the European, American and Japanese aging population. Currently, the Malaysian currency is cheap compare with the US$, EU-Euro and Japanese yen. Even neighbouring Singaporean might be interested. Many of them could become Malaysia, my second home residents. No?
@rolandskelcher3774
@rolandskelcher3774 8 ай бұрын
Extremely good idea, they should market it to the western countries, lots retirees (if Malaysia MM2 requirements are cheaper/lower) will be interested if outgoings r not too high. It’s actually at a very good site
@MarcusAurelius2020
@MarcusAurelius2020 8 ай бұрын
It's all about the $$$
@Crocoeyes
@Crocoeyes 8 ай бұрын
You won't believe this but the retired European are actually poor now
@rolandbol7350
@rolandbol7350 7 ай бұрын
As a European I would prefer Spain, where you can find beach property at similar prices, without the crocodiles and mold (but check carefully), within the EU and with your home country health care coverage. Americans would probably be hesitant about a Muslim country and prefer Costa Rica or Thailand. If you want to populate phase one quickly, move the people of Gaza there.
@Ameng3471
@Ameng3471 7 ай бұрын
They did promoting the place to every continents of the world. There are no specific nationality requirements, it is open to all human being, with money ofcourse
@davidclaro152
@davidclaro152 8 ай бұрын
Those properties are attractive. When they mentioned crocodiles, that was the deal breaker for me.
@Lombardi54
@Lombardi54 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video w/ great content. I saw your channel when you guys had 2,000 subscribers. Now, you have over 200K subscribers. Great work and good luck to more ahead!
@koanstarr9393
@koanstarr9393 4 ай бұрын
Amazingly well put together. I would live here in a heart beat. Cheers from Beautiful Hawaii
@gungho9
@gungho9 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to survey this derelict of a failed ambitious project. Mind you the sultan of Johor (now Malaysia's king) has a 40% stake in this failed housing venture. I am sure the sultan gets nightmares when he occasionally looks at this ghost city. You know if this project had succeeded it would have been (indirectly) a boon for Singapore's economy tenfold really.
@Peter.R.M.
@Peter.R.M. 8 ай бұрын
I wonder why the Malaysian authorities don't just compulsorily purchase the whole area and take control of the development. It must have massive potential being so close to Singapore.
@mountainwest3444
@mountainwest3444 8 ай бұрын
I agree.
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 8 ай бұрын
Any land of the Johor sultanate is johor's business. It is the most powerful state in Malaysia with their own army. No kidding. So the gov of Malaysia can assist in policies eg easing criteria for mm2h, easing visa, tax free status. It cannot afford paying 100b USD. That is madness. We have many world class projects to complete like the ECRL train from Thai border, the Pan Borneo (1600 km) highway. The KL to Singapore HSR. It is a mega private initiative. Nothing to do with Malaysian gov.
@KathrynHardt
@KathrynHardt 8 ай бұрын
You guys knocked it out of the park with this video.Icould actually feel the desolate feeling that you spoke about.Did you get a good Chinese meal out of It cause I know know you like to eat!!!!!!😊Kathy here subscriber from USA.
@SSxxx18
@SSxxx18 8 ай бұрын
The place is already quite well sold. And new islands are not reclaimed yet.😂
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 8 ай бұрын
@SSxxx18 maybe speculative buying. Not staying there. So after 5 years can sell.
@robertruffo2134
@robertruffo2134 7 ай бұрын
I wonder when developers will realize that most people don't want to live in bleak modernism, they want human-scaled walkable environments.
@sirat-al-mustaqimbyshahabs1418
@sirat-al-mustaqimbyshahabs1418 2 ай бұрын
They find it easy
@SonjaHamburg
@SonjaHamburg Ай бұрын
That WASNT the problem at all. They had rich chinese buyers but then malaysia banned foreigners from buying property.
@contactsuzi7096
@contactsuzi7096 8 ай бұрын
WOW! YOU HAVE REALLY RAISED THE BAR WTH THIS VIDEO. i knew about this place and the Ghost Cities in China but I never thought I'd see one up close. It was, as you said Matt, incredibly eerie. It was also lovely. At night though, with the whole huge city in relative darkness, it feels almost trecherous. I can't thank you enough for going there...staying there!...You two are truly the best of exploreres. Love to You Both....Suzi
@1ako415
@1ako415 8 ай бұрын
this is in malaysia tho lol
@jenme4796
@jenme4796 8 ай бұрын
What an idiot, this is not in China,
@henrikibjensen3869
@henrikibjensen3869 7 ай бұрын
Also interesting that this is the only such city we have seen. Why have no chinese bloggers shown cities in China? Oh..
@GloriaHoulihan
@GloriaHoulihan 8 ай бұрын
It must be a little sinister to be in a deserted city. Happy travels to you both 😊
@lindathalman3506
@lindathalman3506 8 ай бұрын
Straight out of a science fiction novel or Gabriel Garcia Marquez! Other worldly! Crazy weird. Eerie is the word. Thanks for this totally bizarre clip! Tashkent on Tuesday!
@rayvortex8663
@rayvortex8663 8 ай бұрын
Welcome back to Malaysia. I;ve been watching your videos for a while now. What I heard they will open this housing city for Singaporean to buy since the economic downfall in China.
@debwill13
@debwill13 8 ай бұрын
Hi you two, this is the first time I've heard of Forest City, what a bizarre experience...it was really interesting to watch but I have so many questions which I'm sure you both do as well....very odd..... thanks for all you do! xox
@MattandJulia
@MattandJulia 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Really glad you enjoyed it 🥰❤️
@HaloLounge
@HaloLounge 8 ай бұрын
Loving your channel both of you. There is a part of Tianjin in China which is very similar to this - a complete ghost city with incredibly ornate houses. I stayed at the Tianjin Goldin Metropolitan Polo Club hotel. There were about 20 of us staying in this huge, beautiful building, and my room was a palatial suite. I was the only one who used the massive indoor pool through the week I was there. Really worth a visit when you’re next in China 🙏🏽
@MattandJulia
@MattandJulia 8 ай бұрын
Ohhh interesting! We would love to visit for sure! 😍❤️
@ZhenYae
@ZhenYae 8 ай бұрын
In Vietnam too.
@HaloLounge
@HaloLounge 8 ай бұрын
Tianjin Goldin Metropolitan Polo Club ❤️
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 8 ай бұрын
China mainland has many such cities. Normal there.
@sunshinemyson
@sunshinemyson 8 ай бұрын
This Forest City really makes me sad on so many levels. What a wasted beautiful place. Being where it is I guess they wouldn't allow an outside country to come in and take control. Has so much potential. I like quiet but this is on a different level. So different from the other places you have shared with us.
@MattandJulia
@MattandJulia 8 ай бұрын
For sure, that’s what fascinated us too, the silence is deafening ❤️🙏🏼
@edgardodalisay1498
@edgardodalisay1498 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information, it helps me decide wether or not to proceed my plan to buy some property their.
@Parawingdelta2
@Parawingdelta2 8 ай бұрын
How dare anyone ask questions about a property they may want to buy! Just sign here and hand over the cash.
@GM-cq6ez
@GM-cq6ez 8 ай бұрын
There is obviously more there than meets the eye.
@sleo3720
@sleo3720 8 ай бұрын
They are not stupid they know that these vloggers are not there to buy
@Parawingdelta2
@Parawingdelta2 8 ай бұрын
@@sleo3720 Fair point. They can probably 'sniff out' who's genuine and who's not.
@Miner-49
@Miner-49 8 ай бұрын
Garbage like this is why Chinas economy is crashing. There’s hundreds of these towns all over China proper.
@henrikibjensen3869
@henrikibjensen3869 7 ай бұрын
@@Parawingdelta2 And sniffers are bad because ... eh why?
@FlyToChina0071
@FlyToChina0071 7 ай бұрын
This is really a strange place you found. As you mentioned completely opposite to Singapore in all ways. Thanks for posting this video. Regards from Denmark
@twize4916
@twize4916 7 ай бұрын
Actually properties there got 85% ownership rate/sold, just 2% occupancy rate because it's mostly second/vacation home for the owners. That's why they're maintained beautifully without much problem
@newgabe09
@newgabe09 6 ай бұрын
Mould and dirt doesn't sound like 'beautifully maintained'
@Raven_Ray1
@Raven_Ray1 6 ай бұрын
​@@newgabe09the theme it self "forest" city. You think it would get paint with green color?
@paulruano1903
@paulruano1903 5 ай бұрын
Lol. If its sold out, then its sold out to chinese property-stocks... basicly they just sit on it and resell for profit. Noone knows how it ever makes sense in the long run as sooner or later the chinese skyscrapers fall down due to low maintenance and low quality materials. Its many such ghost towns in china, created only to speculate properties in a portfolio... never ment to actually live in them. So who knows what the forrest city in malaysia is all about.
@JamesofQPR
@JamesofQPR 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting!!!
@bobsmith3983
@bobsmith3983 8 ай бұрын
This "ghost city" is in Malaysia not China but was built by a Chinese company.
@palmpalm5131
@palmpalm5131 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, kind of misleading to say Chinese ghost city. Makes people think it’s in China but it’s actually in Malaysia. But there’s so much anti China propaganda that I guess you get more views if you make people believe it’s in China instead of Malaysia.
@karmenmiles-mesch9295
@karmenmiles-mesch9295 8 ай бұрын
That is what they said.
@Researched-q1q
@Researched-q1q 8 ай бұрын
But it is run by China and catering to people from China. Malaysians are not even interested in these apartments.
@bidenblows24_7
@bidenblows24_7 8 ай бұрын
That's what they said if you would have paid attention.
@patrickjebireden1286
@patrickjebireden1286 7 ай бұрын
​​@@keepcreationprocessJB 10:12 Johor State in Malaysia.
@JaksRCandHobby
@JaksRCandHobby 5 ай бұрын
Matt & Julia, this would be a great place to setup a homebase/studio for you all. This could be an incredible place to work and live...Id really love it myself if I could find a way to do it.
@margaretwalsh1456
@margaretwalsh1456 8 ай бұрын
What a mad ,weird, fascinating place..You did so well in describing it...thank you.😊
@MattandJulia
@MattandJulia 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much ❤️🙏🏼
@jadenephrite
@jadenephrite 3 ай бұрын
Regarding 5:15, in Chinese culture, the number 4 is considered to be bad luck and should be avoided. That is why in their buildings, there are no 4th floor, 14th floor, 24th floor or floors with the number four included their names. This is known as “Tetraphobia”.
@HappyForever_888
@HappyForever_888 8 ай бұрын
Hope Malaysia government and private sector can joint venture and do something about it ... We will see if JS-SEZ could do something about it and we will see it in the next few years
@EGO0808
@EGO0808 8 ай бұрын
Malaysia government? 😂
@klloo5689
@klloo5689 6 ай бұрын
It's only creepy due to the background horror movie music accompanying this video Lol
@jacklucas8392
@jacklucas8392 6 ай бұрын
Matt oversold the spooky element of the city. Maybe do a Ghost hunting channel.
@johnoreilly5356
@johnoreilly5356 8 ай бұрын
Great video, Matt & Julia!
@gregghorner9107
@gregghorner9107 8 ай бұрын
I notice the balconies of the skyscrapers are adorned with lush vegetation which makes the buildings appear either lived in or long abandoned!
@davidhorne1982
@davidhorne1982 8 ай бұрын
This video is fantastic! Thank you for making it
@Sven-cd8sn
@Sven-cd8sn 7 ай бұрын
great honest vid. Thanks
@izanamisim6071
@izanamisim6071 7 ай бұрын
"What in the world went wrong?" Corruption, greed, and poor planning.
@Ħæïķăł
@Ħæïķăł 7 ай бұрын
Its not corruption…. Just poor planning
@carolali8851
@carolali8851 8 ай бұрын
I've been hearing about this place for many years and I'm absolutely astounded that they are still building! The place is beautiful but I heard that no one wants to live there because it's too far away from the city. Are the buildings being maintained or are they left to decay? That pool or fountain at 21:46 is beautiful as well as all the vegetation in the complex. It's highly doubtful that anyone there will answer questions honestly. It's like you went to sleep and woke up to find that everyone had disappeared. Those nighttime views tell a big tale. 😄
@fcon2002
@fcon2002 7 ай бұрын
I live in Southern California. In 2019, I had someone come and give me an estimate for some construction work to do at my house. The price was two and a half times more expensive than what I expected. I asked him why. He told me that construction materials had gone Sky High. The reason was China was buying up all the local construction materials because they were booming in China! Now, I read and hear about ghost cities in China and can't help get angry about all the waste. It's hard to believe a country can allow such a thing to happen.
@johnsmith-ro2tw
@johnsmith-ro2tw 7 ай бұрын
it may have to do with the mindset in China, which is : get rich quick, by any mean. With that mindset, you don't build to last. The irony is, once those Chinese folks become wealthy, well, they want to spend it, and they spend it on quality stuff, which Europeans/Japanese built to last. Think a mercedes car, or a winery whose land is not polluted in Europe, or a manor in Europe. As soon as they become wealthy, they move their money (and themselves) to a country where things have historically been built to last (=the West, and more specifically, English speaking countries). Why we have higher standards in general, may have to do with the influence of Christianity in the West, which teaches us that being obsessed with money is bad and wrong.
@cindywoods9800
@cindywoods9800 6 ай бұрын
That is why we MUST VOTE with care. The current ‘administration’ has NO locality to American or Americans. Vote Republican …. And NOT Rhino Republican!
@Dalmenco
@Dalmenco 6 ай бұрын
They should have a limit to buying building materials.
@fcon2002
@fcon2002 6 ай бұрын
@cindywoods9800 Did you read my post? This happened in 2019. Trump was the president for 3 years already. It didn't happen during the current administration. This was not a political statement, but you're making it that.
@altadiaz44
@altadiaz44 3 ай бұрын
Were you filming with your phones or with an actual camera by the way? If so, mind clarifying which type because your videos look good quality! Thanks
@MattandJulia
@MattandJulia 3 ай бұрын
Some on the camera and some on our phones, thanks! 🥰
@SilverfoxJB
@SilverfoxJB 8 ай бұрын
There are so many properties in central Johor with an equally short trip to Singapore including Forest Cities long completed little sister called Country Garden. The project is supposed to be on 4 islands and was supposed to take 25 years when announced. As for the beach and the water nice to look at but to harsh to play on and definatley dont go in the water. Its not very clean and there are Crocs!
@isotobex5703
@isotobex5703 8 ай бұрын
excellent and unusual episode thanks guys muuuuuuha x
@miroslavdusin4325
@miroslavdusin4325 8 ай бұрын
Reminds me a bit of some parts of Eastern Germany after the reunification. Everything is nice, working, tidy but there are no people anywhere. Like in a computer game when you are unable to switch to multiplayer mode.
@bobhale8325
@bobhale8325 7 ай бұрын
What an amazing and strange place. Thank you for the tour
@RogerM2404
@RogerM2404 8 ай бұрын
how bizarre, how bizarre....
@TheSilmarillian
@TheSilmarillian 6 ай бұрын
Strange place indeed hello from down under ( Australia) you commented that you had the feeling you where being watched , you where being actively monitored ,just a casual viewing of your footage shows a whole security network with not only the visible cameras but the ones most people fail to see. Stands out as a 15 minute city the harbinger of dystopia. New sub here .
@Rafa-pr5fe
@Rafa-pr5fe 8 ай бұрын
Your vlog from Forest City has the impression that it sheds a lot of knowledge about certain matters related to China, especially the explanation of the reasons for its failure. From what I read after your vlog, the project itself was also scandalous in many cases when it comes to nature-related destruction. This also sparked protests in Singapore. And the very sight of this abandoned city, before it really started to come alive, resembles a sci-fi disaster movie. As if a significant part of humanity had been exterminated and its few remnants remained in the buildings left by our civilization. Quite a telling sight for us humans. Regards.
@jaylongton
@jaylongton 7 ай бұрын
Great job on the video!
@annecaunce
@annecaunce 8 ай бұрын
I've never heard of this place, but it's fascinating. I bet the Al Maktoum family could turn that place around and make it into a new Dubai in no time at all. It's all about the marketing now, because the infrastructure seems to be there.
@Ameng3471
@Ameng3471 7 ай бұрын
I remember those day when they predicted that the palm jumeirah will failed due to delays but look what happened to palm jumeirah now. Hope we could be as successful as palm jumeirah does
@paulruano1903
@paulruano1903 5 ай бұрын
​@@Ameng3471palm Deira now converted to Deira islands. And Palm Jebel Ali has been started up again. Looks promising.
@Andyground11
@Andyground11 8 ай бұрын
Now, this is great content! ;ooo :O
@jennifers1123
@jennifers1123 8 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s so fascinating. And definitely creepy. I see things like that, and can’t help but think of all the people with no home at all. It’s a shame.
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 8 ай бұрын
It a private venture . It's not meant for low-income earners.
@jennifers1123
@jennifers1123 8 ай бұрын
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 I understand that. And that’s not my point. My point is that it looks like a waste of money because it is in such bad shape, and that kind of money could help so many people in need.
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 8 ай бұрын
@@jennifers1123 Then build low-cost housing .
@tgts-live
@tgts-live 6 ай бұрын
I live in forest city you should have talked with people living here , i love it best place ever
@MattandJulia
@MattandJulia 6 ай бұрын
We tried talking to many people with camera and without, no one really wanted to chat. So we didn’t want to make anyone feel uncomfortable 🤗
@minime7375
@minime7375 8 ай бұрын
The place looks like in some post-apocalyptic movie when you’re not in the frame. I wonder if the vegetation on the buildings is intentional or just the jungle taking over.
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 8 ай бұрын
They are manicured plants obviously it grows if not taken care by maintenance. We are a tropical country. Even trees grow on buildings
@minime7375
@minime7375 8 ай бұрын
@@keangwooichoo6138 I meant the plants that cover the balconies of those high-rises, it seems too high for them to grow naturally, I thought maybe “green city” meant they are intentionally planted to cover the buildings. I’ve been to Singapore, it’s incredibly green so not sure which one is true, planted intentionally or spreading naturally.
@rolandskelcher3774
@rolandskelcher3774 8 ай бұрын
@@minime7375looks like they’re growing cascading plants over the balcony like a ‘garden city’. Actually ?empty apartments’ could be holiday homes of wealthy families. In UK, seaside towns, there’re lots ‘empty homes’ but belonging to families who only come from time to time. The grounds of this place is beautifully designed. Perhaps it does get busy during holiday season when families do arrive
@minime7375
@minime7375 8 ай бұрын
@@rolandskelcher3774 The plants are nice but considering they mentioned black mold in the video I thought that maybe the vegetation covering the buildings was the result of neglect (they do retain moisture) rather than intentional but it could also be intentional as you said. Maybe the rate of occupancy is higher but it still looks deserted.
@timothylee2772
@timothylee2772 8 ай бұрын
Who knows what zombies may be lurking there. I would get the hell out of there as I don't want to find out.😂😂😂😂😂
@MaTtRoSiTy
@MaTtRoSiTy 7 ай бұрын
Seems crazy in many of our nations the cities are struggling with housing supply, meanwhile places like this are pretty much completely empty.
@winstainforth
@winstainforth 8 ай бұрын
Amazing video!
@schrenk-d
@schrenk-d 8 ай бұрын
I still think I'd prefer China's model. Have too many homes and not enough people, with very little in the way of homeless people. Compare that to US, Canada, Australia UK... Where there are NOT enough homes, skyrocketing prices, and empty homes washing dirty money.
@dyrectory_com
@dyrectory_com 8 ай бұрын
This project had nothing to do with the Chinese gov't. Giving it a title with "China" it in give the connotations that it was a state sponsored and funded project - this was not the case. Read up on it here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_City,_Johor 🔍
@millie9236
@millie9236 8 ай бұрын
However, not working.
@joewong438
@joewong438 8 ай бұрын
No enough people. Built for Singaporeans。have friends live there……
@_bbie
@_bbie 8 ай бұрын
maybe you should move here😂
@SimonCU
@SimonCU 8 ай бұрын
yes US need to learn from China and other Asian countries to fight their homeless inflation issues. The only way to do it is to build more homes like this.
@brewsterkits
@brewsterkits 8 ай бұрын
it looks such a lovely place, i would stay there just for the reason its quiet!
@quarters-eye8922
@quarters-eye8922 8 ай бұрын
An ant infestation coupled with Black Mold is enough to shut the whole place down as it is. It would probably cost millions just to deal with those two issues alone. The investment company and government should fix the place up and market it to expats and vacationing foreigners, for purchase or rent. Who wouldn’t want a three bedroom penthouse suite for $800 dollars a month. Something to think about………..
@EGO0808
@EGO0808 8 ай бұрын
The group behind this construction, went down and that’s why it is as it is.
@Mars_Life_and_Beings
@Mars_Life_and_Beings 8 ай бұрын
Great video, I was always interested in this project. Maybe they should have checked if the water was crocodile infested first.
@thirdrockjul2224
@thirdrockjul2224 8 ай бұрын
Interesting story. ❤
@MattandJulia
@MattandJulia 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! ❤️
@kydawg1684
@kydawg1684 6 ай бұрын
....looks so nice.....now I want to move there. Great video.
@costasworldofmusicmemories5792
@costasworldofmusicmemories5792 8 ай бұрын
This was an engaging video. So much potential for this mega city. It was the perfect storm for what could go wrong terribly . So many moving parts. Matt and Julia, you found them. As creepy as it sound and looked. You have to feel sorry for the people that invested in it and live there. For the potential numbers of people who could live there. You could house all the homeless people from just here in the U.S. not to mention other parts of the world. When were you there ? Great Video Guys ! 👍❤👍 Sending you much love❤ from Harriet, Jim and Yuki
@Foxfiles-777
@Foxfiles-777 8 ай бұрын
Good video very interesting...Amazing...🤔
@stevekent1792
@stevekent1792 8 ай бұрын
Ps...no wonder you felt paranoid matt..that would freak me out
@blcsfo
@blcsfo 7 ай бұрын
The video is about a Ghost City in Malaysia and the buildings are in Malaysia, not China.
@sallysampson628
@sallysampson628 8 ай бұрын
I’d love to find out the truth about this city? Very odd and reminded me of I Am Legend! Ultimately though, with so many homeless people around the world it’s such a shame. Feel for those who are stuck there! As usual another fascinating vlog guys but like you I have lots of questions!! I must Google this place! 🥰🙅‍♀️🙅‍♀️
@MattandJulia
@MattandJulia 8 ай бұрын
Really glad you enjoyed it Sally! Glad we could share it 🥰❤️
@SummerSunshine02
@SummerSunshine02 8 ай бұрын
Wow!!! Fascinating video. Thanks for sharing.
@aleksanderkuncwicz7277
@aleksanderkuncwicz7277 8 ай бұрын
Could Canada hire china with its billion dollar surplus and build a chinese ghost city here in Alberta Canada.
@aleksanderkuncwicz7277
@aleksanderkuncwicz7277 8 ай бұрын
​@@keangwooichoo6138 yeah a payout Alberta has five billion surplus I think it could use some of the money to build homes but I wouldnt wont to meet the president.😅
@aemilia5799
@aemilia5799 7 ай бұрын
It's quiet, scenic, pleasant, and beautiful. Add people and you lose all that. Kind of like everywhere.
@clancycreations
@clancycreations 8 ай бұрын
That was fascinating! 😱👍 As creepy as Chernobyl, to me… if not even creepier. Wow! Shocking that so much was put into it, to be left to rot! Thanks for this video!
@marksharpe6384
@marksharpe6384 8 ай бұрын
A place that big and it leaves me with out a thing to say or ask ...... well done
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