Inside Out 2 does Puberty Right!

[@CellSpex]

So Inside Out 2's release wasn't changed, Elio was just delayed. That's on me.

[@wantedminion5966]

I was wondering what happened to that movie

[@abrahanmartinez-herde]

@@wantedminion5966 im just going to say isnt sonic 3 a anticipated movie for 2024 including deadpool and inside out 2

[@belleroseelizabethsmith8148]

I saw the movie today and I really enjoyed it, especially with Joy

[@DORAisD34D]

“That’s on me” reminded me of “that’s ennui” 😂

[@UNKNOWN-ramen-re5pf]

" en-who??? can i call you wee wee for short?" - joy, inside out 2

[@DanGamingFan2406]

I love how they don't just make Anxiety a villain. She's a normal emotion who means well like the others, while also showing why it's important to keep it in check.

[@watershipup7101]

And it's done so cleverly, too.

[@waterbullstudios9195]

And it follows up the first movie's message about all emotions being normal and necessary.

[@yama9676]

tho more of an antagonist than a villain.

[@mjjjermaine]

+1

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

Not only that, Anxiety's actions even reflected to a much bigger extreme Joy's own actions. That huge pile of emotions she was tossing in the back of her head to build the "ideal" self? Yea, that would've crumbled in the future and flooded that place but much worse than what they done in the movie.

[@melovemlpfim]

I feel like the people who talk about how "well this is not how my anxiety works" forget that anxiety is actually an emotion. When that emotion takes over, that's when it becomes a disorder.

[@BuizelCream]

The movie even depicts the start of a potential disorder when Anxiety went haywire, unable to let Riley go. We just didn't have a storybeat left to develop that into something complex and specific, which comes at a cost of alienating some audienes.

[@NewyorkJKSK]

Inside out 2 was very good the anxiety attack was Great

[@powerofk]

The thing is, yeah…. Anxiety is really excitement crossed with fear. And I did like how when anxiety takes over, it really takes over. There really are lots of Easter eggs, though, in the movie which are poking fun of stuff that GenX and Millennials grew up with. Pouchy, of course, is poking fun of Dora’s backpack. Anxiety taking over imagination land (which is what anxiety does) not only was a jab at Disney corporate but also was a call back to the 1984 book and movie and the original Super Bowl Macintosh commercial from 1984.

[@Rikrobat]

That and anyone complaining needs to understand that because anxiety manifests differently in everyone, trying to represent all of its iterations is going to risk making Riley's reactions feel inconsistent and still not representative because of the efforts to cover all bases, rather than doing a focused version for this character.

[@Watnchwindow7894]

@@powerofkI think pouchy wasn’t from Dora. But from Mickey Mouse clubhouse. Pouchy was Toodles. And that dog is Mickey. I knew it the soon they said. “Oh pouchyyyyyyyy”

[@bombkirby]

I feel like Inside Out established that emotions are all different for every person. Like the Dad's "anger" is pretty chill compared to Riley's, and he's the main emotion in his head.

[@NobodyC13]

Dad's Anger is the captain that steers the ship and ensures everything is right and fair for the family. Mom is lead by her Sadness (foreshadowing the main purpose of sadness is empathy) being the pillar of love, support, and compassion for the family.

[@Bloody_Ingenious]

​@@NobodyC13 Exactly. His anger isn't exactly "anger", it's just protectiveness. Which makes total sense because someone else also pointed out that Fear is almost second-in-command in Dad's mind. Mum's leading emotion is "Empathy" rather than sadness, to better emphasize and understand her daughter. And Mum's Sadness is rational, not a weeping mess like Riley's.

[@silvercoronet]

emotions sort of generally mellow as we get older. Anger is hopefully less irrational, easier to be reigned in and better expressed, fear less all consuming, sadness less complete despair, joy less excitement and more contentment, and disgust something easier to push aside and less complete aversion. Most of the time, at least. And during things like puberty and similar hormonal changes or effects where all emotions are heightened, I’ve seen others feel and have felt kind of childish about how consuming emotions are and how they’re expressed.

[@Jadesmorot]

Yeah, I think Riley’s Envy might just be really small because she has more of the “oh they’re so cool I wanna be like them” vibe that you have when you’re small, I don’t really get that envious in general so I thought this envy was right on the nose for how mine is haha

[@eternallylearning2811]

​@@Bloody_IngeniousThe thing is I thought they were like that cause they were adults

[@Sion67Productions]

I thought Anxiety was a good example of an antagonist and not a villain. Having good intentions but ultimately serving as an obstacle to overcome

[@geddyw]

It's also very easy to see what Anxiety was trying to do: make a Riley that believes in self improvement, works hard, has cool friends, and is someone that others will look up to. When the new sense of self said "I'm not good enough", Anxiety was shocked that that's what the result was, and made her quickly fly into a panic trying to fix it.

[@OliverOils]

an anti hero?

[@julesladalardo]

Very well said.

[@DeathKitta]

Doesn't she basically take Joy's place from first movie? As a good thing.

[@insheepsclothing5574]

@@OliverOils No, an anti hero is someone that has traits you wouldn't associate with the idea of, well, a hero, but who serves the same purpose: Sadness was an anti-hero in the first movie. As the previous comment said, Anxiety is an antagonist as she creates obstacles and is the source of conflict, but it all comes from good intentions, hence why she's not a "villain"

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447]

One of my favorite little details is near the beginning, when Riley overhears the highschoolers talking about her, and Anxiety flips out thinking that they now hate Riley or whatever, but if you (the viewer) actually listen to what the highschoolers are saying, they have no distain towards Riley at all, and are actually just joking about how they were just as immature when they were younger.

[@thirdcoinedge]

It's similar to that moment in the first movie, when the emotions are panicking during Riley's breakdown and they see a group of girls talking about her, but if you look at their faces, they actually seem concerned for Riley, rather than mocking her.

[@dustymcwari4468]

I can imagine Nostalgia taking over their minds there

[@carlotta4th]

Yeah but when you're a kid older cool kids referencing how "young" you are is suuuuuuper embarrassing.

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

I think that’s not really true. It was a mix of both at best. I felt crushed listening to the high schoolers talk and I’m an adult.

[@icarue993]

iirc, one person was mean, while Val was like "were you better when you were younger?" I actually really liked Val as a character. She is not the typical snobish popular girl that is mean, but a very good mentor figure. A good balance of pushing you to be good (waking up early to train), but not super early, not over exert yourself, be good to the new guy, etc.

[@blackspringbird]

I reeeally loved Anxiety's characterisation in this movie. When she hears that her efforts have led to Riley's new belief "I'm not good enough" she looks so shocked and confused, because that's not what she wanted at all! She just wanted to protect her! It's such a wonderful way of understanding anxiety (which in itself is an emotion, not a disorder) but also the possible consequences of it taking over.

[@terrycore]

I really like that aspect too because it shows that anxiety serves a function and wants the best, but cannot do good without being balanced with other emotions/ being questioned. Anxiety is deeply terrified of failure to the point where it becomes detrimental, setting up high expectations that if you hinge your self worth on will result in self doubt.

[@ek0dev]

I love that they didn't make her a villain, like she did want to help Riley but she just didn't consider how much damage she was doing

[@Lunapixel_]

Envy is a different type than what we're used to seeing with it in most media. The Envy we see in the movie is the kind where it says "I love that, I want what you have, so I'm gonna do what I can to make myself have that"

[@stxrstruck6755]

Yes! That's how I took her interpretation of Envy and I love it honestly. Envy can get mixed up wit Jealousy very easily, and they are very similar. But it looks like Riley's Envy is the "You have this, and I like it, so I'll work hard to get just like you" and not "You have something I want and I don't like it." Envy doesn't have to be a negative emotion 24/7 because it can push people to better themselves when the feeling comes up. That's kinda one of the points of inside out 1 & 2, right? Every emotion has its time and place, but too much of one is bad.

[@sheila19954]

@@stxrstruck6755 Envy is when you want what someone else has, and jealousy is when you're worried someone's trying to take what you have. so you've got a point there

[@Lunapixel_]

​@@stxrstruck6755Envy can be a healthy emotion, it's essentially where ambition comes from!

[@AbsolLootley]

Some people have pointed out that this could be due to religious texts like the bible, which sometimes portray the term envious synonymous with jealous. This is likely due to how often the bible is re-translated and published. That’s why originally, there was gonna be a pair of emotions Jealousy and Envy, who were gonna be twins that they couldn’t tell apart, but they scrapped that

[@leroypreston2973]

I heard there's two types of envy. The malicious envy we know we'll and benign where we want to emulate others. Copy how they look and act and be more like them.

[@Magicwaterz]

I did a lot of research on what the new emotions purpose are and here's what I found. Envy has 2 types, malicious and benign. Benign envy is the good one and it helps you admire and set goals to yourself to achieve it. Embarassment acknowledges that you did something wrong, letting anyone know that you don't have to tell them that, and you are trying to fix it. Ennui usually promotes creativity. The disinterest makes you want to think up alternatives to avoid the dullness. No wonder we daydream a lot in a boring class.

[@cheezeebutter452]

Omg I love this thank you for your insight!

[@BruhTNT4258]

Malicious envy is called jealousy

[@justakid7991]

@@BruhTNT4258 not really, jealousy is more about feeling threatened by the idea that something you already have might get taken away.

[@abthedragon4921]

OMG how did I not notice the scene with Anxiety taking over the imagination land and forcing the workers to mass produce nightmares for her was a reference to how animators are treated by corporate Disney!? Yeah, there is no way that was a coincidence!

[@LivingLegend0916]

That was kind of a savage move they did

[@yohanesbobbysanjaya3541]

Yeah this movie has BIG BALLS on criticizing Disney Corporation... Anxiety took over and kicked away Joy into oblivion, the New emotion replacing Riley's identity, last minute change lead into panic attack... dang Disney must have done so much dirty to animators that their emotion was on full display

[@Konoshi_08]

THE BOLDNESS. THIS MAKES ME LOVE THESE MOVIES EVEN MORE!

[@Double-R-Nothing]

You sure it wasn't just a homage to the Apple 1984 commercial?

[@papermr.magolorguy7957]

@@Double-R-NothingI AM BIG PIXAR ANXIETY AND I AM ALWAYS WATCHING COMRADES OF IMAGINATIONLAND

[@DanGamingFan2406]

Anxiety turning Riley's Imagination Land into an animation sweatshop where joy isn't allowed is such a corporate clapback that I'm so glad Disney didn't remove.

[@watershipup7101]

Very much agreed. I'm surprised they allowed it.

[@waterbullstudios9195]

That scene was so perfect.

[@wantedminion5966]

Was that a cry for help from Pixar?

[@liamdude5722]

Mind Worker: "We should unionize!" Joy: "Okay, let's not go crazy."

[@henrystewart7365]

​@@wantedminion5966Your profile pic makes your comment 5x funnier😆

[@CaladonianQueen]

In a weird way Inside Out 2 helped me accept my anxiety. I always thought of it as an antagonistic force making things harder for me but it's comforting to think of it as something that loves me and is working hard to look after me. It helps me conceptualize anxiety as something to be managed and parlayed with rather than fought.

[@coralmaynard4876]

I'd also suggest trying what Joy did - I know from experience that Anxiety can't be suppressed, but what Joy did was brilliant, even if not easy, she redirected Anxiety. She reminded Anxiety that whether Riley makes the team or not can't be controlled, so she asked Anxiety what can... "Oh! We gotta study for the Spanish test tomorrow!" Boom! Anxiety redirected!

[@Rosa-he6xb]

Same! It did what the first movie did for me with Sadness. I used to resent myself for getting emotional and sad all the time about things I felt hurt over, but now I appreciate it as it shows that sadness just wants to help me get it out so I can continue forward or to show what’s wrong so it can be helped. Anxiety I feel like does a similar thing with me being worried about things like myself or other events/changes in my life, it’s her trying to help me prepare for it…it just want go a little overboard sometimes(although I will say my environment at home doesn’t fully allow me to be anxious and calm down without it being turned negative). I’m very appreciative of these films being a self care healing for me and possibly others with turning emotions that usually are depicted as negatives trying to hurt you, to positives that’s trying to help you.

[@lorettabes4553]

That's what Thomas Sander's Anxiety also did for me: It's also there to protect you. Some people just have too much of it

[@phineasfacingforward3460]

That's really beautiful man, I'm glad for you

[@aduckthief7839]

This is a realization I had while working with a therapist after living my whole life with terrible anxiety, and I’m so glad that message has been so clearly communicated by Pixar. It gives me a lot of hope for the future that people like you are internalizing the idea that anxiety is trying to help!

[@ValCalExtra]

I’m someone who experienced a lot of anxiety during my pubescent years and I just want to say that I LOVE how this movie tackles Anxiety as a character. She's an anti-Villian; she disposes of the og emotions and Riley's sense of self, believing it's what needs to be done to protect her. Anxiety doesn't need to be defeated, she needs to be stopped from her current course, managed and, really, taken care of and loved, and the movie does just that. The end scene where Joy sits Anxiety down in her massage chair and gives her some tea (anxie-tea hehe) just warms my heart. Anyway, I loved Inside Out 2, I was crying throughout the entire climax.

[@coralmaynard4876]

More important than the chair and tea, Joy also redirects Anxiety. She knows she can't just tell Anxiety to stop worrying, so she asks what can be controlled, and Anxiety mentions the Spanish test. Still anxious, but now focused on something useful.

[@NobodyC13]

It's kind of like when Ned's Declassified discussed stress using iTeacher (the teacher that teaches from home using a webcam). She says stress isn't inherently "bad;" it can actually be good because it's your body sending signals to tell you you need motivation or you need to make some lifestyle changes. However, she admits the potential to be overwhelmed by stress if you don't manage it properly (with her current situation as a result since her past as a go-getter led her to never leave her house).

[@raymaikeru]

@@coralmaynard4876Many reasons why I love this part too. It's an step forward in Joy's character. Before then we saw Joy as the toxic positivity, but now she learned how to redirect what sound like negative emotions into good outcomes. Like the beginning hockey scene that puts the og 5 in full display of their roles. Same goes with all the other new 5 emotions. Embarrassment can be redirected into humility or flustered or even love. Envy can be redirected into ambition/be the one who sets up the goal and even push to improve Riley to reach that goal. Ennui can be redirected into relaxation. Like if Riley is ever in a state of overworking her body, Ennui can step in as a way to signal Riley "take a chill pill" or relax. Or even meditate (think nothing, do nothing, the Power of Nothingness in SF basically.) Nostalgia.. well she's just constantly kept in the cellar. But I can tell eventually, once Riley has kids or friends who ask about her past, Nostalgia is jumping in to fulfill her role. Negative Nostalgia would be always being stuck in the past after all. Nostalgia can be redirected into a bonding experience. Like say your kid suddenly wants to play a game you used to play as a kid. I just love that's how Joy treats them all.. and makes me wish Pixar makes a mini series on this to give the emotions more light or see the positive sides of them in action.

[@cantmakeacreativename2072]

I think my favorite part of these two movies is that the emotions take over and bicker in such a natural way that still feels realistic with the reactions of an actual human being. Like, viewing this from an outside perspective, Riley’s just a normal, albeit socially awkward person who’s trying too hard to look cool. All her actions still feel human, despite the fact that everything is piloted and guided by what is essentially a goofy group of misfit people in her head. With a concept like this, I feel like it’s so easy to just do dumb funny over exaggerated mood swing humor, with Riley just constantly switching between whatever emotions trying to pilot her, but no. They made it feel natural. Hell, they even managed to make an explanation for mood swings, which I for some reason found it funnier then I think I should’ve, lmao.

[@undergalaxy775]

If more people understood that in these films its the real life stuff that dictates what happens inside the mind and not the other way around, we'd save ourselves from a lot of cinemasins tier "critisism"

[@ad-sd-vids5332]

This movie made more money on its opening weekend than lightyear and wish made, ever That makes me happy

[@Coolcoolcooldude]

It's the highest opening of a film this year. More than Dune 2, more than Planet of the Apes, more than Garfield, more than Godzilla x Kong.

[@Direwolf181]

I mean Lightyear is something nobody asked for or wanted (we already had the Buzz Lightyear cartoon that already covered everything that this movie tried ro cover) And Wish... was just soulless corporate nothing so makes sense both failed

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

It also already beat Fnaf

[@ethansmall581]

One of my favorite parts of the film was how much I ended up liking Riley as a character. They do such a good job of ensuring that Riley’s actions are her own, and connect back to her faults from the first movie and the second one, she’s a fleshed out three dimensional character and everything she does feels like it was written to make sure it makes sense from the perspective of making like a film completely outside her head in addition to making sense as being done by the characters guiding her around.

[@shapesnatch1341]

That's what I've been saying! While I didn't dislike her in the first movie, she definately came across as more of a plot device rather than a character. Inside Out 2 completely fixes that, making her into a really likeable and relatable character. And since they put so much more into Riley herself in this film, it makes everything happening much more impactful. Like at the end when she's panicing, grabbing her chest and hyperventilating. It really makes you feel for her and makes you so much more invested in seeing her get through it.

[@thirdcoinedge]

@shapesnatch1341 There’s also the subtle element of the emotions directly controlling less of Riley's actions now that her sense of self has been developed, so her greater agency in the plot is reflective of her gradual maturity and eventual control over her emotions. It's less of a child being piloted by their emotions, and now more of emotions having an input in a person's actions, which is why Anxiety's obsessive control over the formation of Riley's new self is so unhealthy.

[@shapesnatch1341]

@@thirdcoinedge Like at the end where she appologieses to her friends with no imput from the emotions. Showing that that is who Riley really is, not the version that either Joy or Anxiety were trying to create.

[@kodi5384]

You raise a very valid point when mentioning that Fear is there to protect Riley, but so is all the other emotions. The new emotions all have in common that they exist as a reaction to outside social stimuli, and thus are supposed to protect her when navigating socially. All I wish is that the movie was longer and showed more of the new emotions navigating the hockey camp stay to flesh them out as characters so they become less like gimmicks.

[@thirdcoinedge]

That's pretty much what I thought when I saw the trailer. All the new emotions revolve around navigating the complexities of the social world, which require more sophisticated emotions to help manage and that children become more introduced to as they mature.

[@minilopgamer1950]

I am not kidding when I was in the theater for inside out 2 and they played the trailer for Mufasa. Someone behind me said “when Disney needs more money”.

[@cadendicky1855]

Well it's only you who can decide whether you want to see it or not and give it money.

[@lilyyoung1002]

😆

[@WhirlyBeepBoops]

Best case is Inside Out 2 makes more money than Mufasa

[@reasyrandom]

God, I'm so glad my theater showed a trailer for Paddington 3 instead.

[@justanoreo2.0]

Yep and Moana 2 when I went and saw it -_-

[@Darian610]

"When you get older, you feel less joy." That line made me introspective, dammit.

[@user-hermesiscool]

Me too, I actually started to tear up and then cried during the panic attack scene

[@clover.8147]

I don't agreed with that.

[@user-hermesiscool]

@@clover.8147 ok, that’s your opinion

[@clover.8147]

@@user-hermesiscool It's a phrase that makes no sense to me, every life is different and the message it gives is basically going to inspire others to not want to grow... And we have the problem today that there are many people with the Peter Pan syndrome. Growing up is just a phase, not a curse.

[@user-hermesiscool]

@@clover.8147 I think it just hit harder as I realized that I haven’t felt truly happy in a good while

[@slashermaster28]

Only problem with its current success is that Disney is using it as an excuse to say original passion projects aren’t profitable, ignoring the fact that the reason those films did poorly was because they basically trained people to wait for their Disney+ releases and did a terrible job marketing them. Edit: I am not advocating for this film's failure. It's too amazing to deserve such a terrible fate. But maybe when Elio comes out next year, just a thought, how about we try to make that one a huge success too, you know, let Pixar know that original films can be just as profitable as sequels. I mean, sequels wouldn't exist without original films anyway.

[@BuizelCream]

Funny because the original Wish concept already had the most profitable mix of ideas, but they just turned a side eye at it for some silly reason.

[@mariajosejose8435]

Yeah

[@marcosortega3350]

Darn it. Exactly why I kinda wanted this to fail.

[@shinyrayquaza9]

They did the same thibg at pixar

[@difference3maker36]

Can we please stop using Disney plus as a excuse where films like Mario, Barbie and Oppenheimer made $900- 1 billion dollars? Disney is not failing cause of Disney plus they failed cause the movies simply weren’t good and were barley advertised. D+ is the biggest cope for why Disney is failing there’s more to it then that

[@IzaiyahAresRiveiro]

This movie made me SOB relentlessly. The Anxiety attack scene & when joy says "Maybe when we grow up we don't have room for Joy" LAWDDDDD I WAS BAWLING. That's exactly how 12-17 felt for me.

[@AnonymOus-ss9jj]

What changed your mind at 18?

[@IzaiyahAresRiveiro]

@@AnonymOus-ss9jji still have anxiety 24/7 as an adult, but now it has more of a reason and I’m better able to calm myself & self soothe!! 12-17 I was panicking about what 18 would be like and I realized at 18 to take it day by day, moment by moment- there’s no point in worrying about the future if you can’t let yourself live in the present!

[@FlyingFocs]

I’m 30 and going through that now, kind of

[@guillerhonora717]

I like that riley's subconscousness and the emotions are separated & the fact that the 5 new emotions are like her defense emotions

[@frauleinzuckerguss1906]

I think it's a little sad that Riley gets so many new emotions yet still only has one positive one. Like, yeah, all emotions are important and joy can be toxic but when Joy is gone, Riley doesn't have anything positive to emote and instead only has multiple negative reactions left

[@ZidaneKiano]

​​@@frauleinzuckerguss1906If they ever make Inside Out 3,they probably will add the "Love" emotion that got cut cause love life is such an important phase during teenage years lol

[@WhiteRose2002]

@@frauleinzuckerguss1906I agree with you here somewhat, but there are no negative emotions, a lot of emotions don’t feel good, but they are just as important, our brain took the time to evolve them after all. And the other emotions can be positive, like anger is standing up for yourself, sadness can also be empathy.

[@raymaikeru]

@@frauleinzuckerguss1906Textbook wise.. I think you forgot about Nostalgia. I don't blame you, because she was always just shoved back in the room. But if we get a bit more complex, then none of them are really negative emotions. On paper they sound negative, but really they all do their best to lead to a good life.

[@nameman9997]

@@frauleinzuckerguss1906There’s no such thing as a “Positive” or “Negative” emotions. Emotions simply are.

[@rabnerd28]

I will say that I like that anxiety looks the way she does. A lot of the time when female characters are designed they're less cartoony that their male counterparts. You can see it with the five original emotions where Panic and Anger have more exaggerated designs while Joy, Disgust and Sadness kinda just all look like normal people with different colors. But Anxiety does not look like a normal person with a different color. She's the most exaggerated one of them all and I love it.

[@Mysticgamer]

She looks like a Muppet, and I love her design.

[@pyxilate]

You mean Fear and not Panic, right?

[@LittleNoddyLemmyVideos]

Sadness, Disgust and Sadness??

[@blackqweenmars]

Fr. I love how she has a muppets like and kinda creepy appearance but cute at the same time. I think the voice and personality is what saves the character from being nightmare fuel lol

[@JacKAB0Y]

In regards to what purpose the other emotions serve for Riley’s wellbeing: Envy: Ensures Riley feels welcome and a part of the friend groups she’s in (Stick with me on this, I’m gonna to come back to her) Embarrassment: Gives Riley the ability to self-reflect so that she can learn from her mistakes Ennui: Allows Riley to relax and not constantly get involved in EVERY situation presented to her 24/7 (Again, stick with me) I know a big issue people have with the new emotions is that unlike Anxiety and the originals, they don’t seem to serve a purpose. And that may largely be due to the fact that most of these new emotions (the most often brought up being Envy and Ennui) are not being represented accurately. However, I feel that these new emotions ARE represented not necessarily accurately, but in an important way nonetheless. When most people think of Envy, they think of the negative traits that come with it (jealousy, brash decisions to fit in, etc.). But for a film like Inside Out 2, it’s important to highlight the positives aspects of feeling Envious, hence why I feel that this “misrepresentation” of Envy doesn’t really hinder her character, but instead gives the audience a reason to appreciate Envy despite the negative connotations surrounding her character. The same arguments can be made for Ennui and Embarrassment, but I’ve already spoken enough about this topic and hope my point comes across. Either way, Inside Out 2 was an absolute delight for me and felt like the perfect follow up to a movie deserving of said follow up. Of course, the future of Pixar after Docter’s interview is questionable, but like Cellspex, it’s important to appreciate what’s in front of us now. And I’ve gotta say, there is certainly a lot to look forward to this year (The Wild Robot looks amazing and Arcane S2 will surely be phenomenal) All in all, IO2 has set the gold standard for what the inevitable tsunami of Pixar sequels should strive to be (imo), and while I’d love to have more original stories and less “relatable movies” going forward, I’m happy to say that IO2 was a great way to finally get myself back into the movie theater. TL;DR- Inside Out 2 is awesome, def recommend. Through all the lows, there’s a lot to look forward to. Everything will be okay, you’ve just gotta believe. Good night, Tristate Area

[@theassortedhobbyist]

I don’t know if it’s just me, but I really liked this movie more than the first one. It’s funny that both films pretty much have a similar setup and conclusion, but what makes Inside Out 2 more emotionally impactful for me is the execution of its story and characters. This sequel commits to a more stable balancing act between Riley’s plot and the plot with her emotions, Anger and Fear and Disgust truly feel like important members in the ensemble instead of just existing with Joy and Sadness, and I adore this movie’s message of embracing the complex and confusing emotions that we feel, but not letting them completely define us for who we are. Human emotions are extremely layered and a lot more mysterious than some would think, and I think Inside Out 2, just like its predecessor, was able to portray that in a way that’s palatable for audiences of every age to understand.

[@Kuvoa]

The film tackled a good well known trait of many grownups who are well growing up, I liked it, they kept it real while still catering to the younger audience but made it watchable for adults with its more adult themes. Fantastic film.

[@raingirlie]

I felt so bad for joy in this movie she was stressing so much 😭 Thank god for that one scene at the end where Riley wanted her and she got the closure she needed !!

[@LivingLegend0916]

It was such a good scene and I'm so happy that they included that detail, because it should be you who decides what you want to feel. Don't let your emotions be the one that controls you, you should be the one that controls them.

[@flopps1051]

@@LivingLegend0916 I was wondering what the theme of the movie is aside from a rehash of the last movie's message. This is really good and is really important for people to understand

[@elliart7432]

I really love that in the end, anxiety doesn't really touch the console, but not in the same way sadness was rarely allowed to at the beginning of the first movie. They get her input and then pass it along to Riley FOR her. That's a really neat way to explain that anxiety has a purpose but is more better filtered through an extra layer of rationale

[@carlotta4th]

I disliked that because despite saying anxiety helps protect her they still basically were telling anxiety to back off at the end. Manage it yes--but still show the good aspects she brings to the table. Maybe Riley's studying could have gotten her an A or something.

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

Tbh imo I like how they didnt really treated the new, seemingly negative emotions, as just negatives, keeping up with the last movie's theme. Anixiety allows you to keep mindful on the future while also making sure you dont forget things, envy at its purest form (wanting things others have to one self) helps give you ambition, embarrasmente allows you to learn from past mistakes and Ennui is helpful to disconnect from reality, and she does work as the straight man to anxiety and envy (legit if she wasnt there the chaos would had ensued faster) Also funnily enough, Ennui, Anxiety and Embarrasment would had being the perfect counter to the idea of running away. Ennui is the voice of reason and is very introspective, and would had worked a a temporary base emotion that isnt as chaotic in the meantime Joy and sadness came back, embarrasment would had made Riley think twice over how it would reflect on her, and Anxiety would catastrophise that idea 10 times over before it drops dead on the ground

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Between Puss in Boots 2 and Inside Out 2, these movies depict the perfect panic attacks unlike a certain animated property, who treats it like joke.....

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

well anxiety attack but yea (is not that incorrect but this is more correct)

[@AmpersandLWC]

If you're talking about Velma I thought it was fine

[@kinoire]

Having a panic attack in your animated movie is already a joke, shits mad repetitive

[@andromeda_neko]

@@AmpersandLWCare you deranged?

[@S0meb0dy728]

@@kinoirelist 5 animated movies that have them

[@cuberrt]

I can't be the only one who thought Joy was about to fucking die at the end when the particles started drifting towards the console, right?

[@iridescent28]

lmao I thought the same 🤣🤣 I thought she was about to evaporate

[@heavy0119]

I thought she was gonna turn into some button on the console or something

[@Iloveyou-dz7mq]

Oh god, I'm getting infinity war flashbacks.

[@TRNatalie48]

Yeah, I thought she was about to have a Bing Bong happen to her

[@waldoododo]

BRO SAME I WAS ABOUT TO YELL

[@katemiller4084]

I am an autistic woman and a ICU Nurse, so I have had a few anxiety attacks and have felt anxiety a lot growing up, especially when I step away from routine and step out of my comfort zones. I do tend to shutdown myself if I’m too anxious, but I feel the movies interpretation of an anxiety attack from inside the mind POV is accurate in my opinion from my experiences. I once experienced having an attack after having thoughts of disappointing others and the anxiety thoughts of getting into trouble from being autistic were swirling in my head and caused my body to react by feeling like I couldn’t breath and my heart was beating in my chest. I had to lock myself away in the toilets and use meditation and breathing techniques I have learnt to get my thoughts and body back under control. I would love Pixar to cover the mind of someone with autism sometime, especially puberty, because autism and puberty is not a good combination, believe me 😂.

[@aletanook]

Have you seen Loop? It's a pretty good Pixar film about an autistic character.

[@katemiller4084]

@@aletanook Oh yeah, and I agree. I meant I would like to see Pixar interpretation of emotions of an autistic character. Maybe with a console that doesn’t work properly or something. Just thought it would be interesting.

[@Lokear]

​​@@katemiller4084 Either doesn't work properly, or the emotions aren't created with all the knowledge of how to use it like Riley's have, so they have to figure it out as they go and never *quite* get there. That's how it feels on my end, like it's a skill that's hard to master rather than something that just happens.

[@candicraveingcloude2822]

As an autistic person I agree with the final sentence. It's horrible enough to deal eith sensory sensitivities, and no one understands each other in a conversation. It's worse when every change is happening on the horizon all at once.

[@katemiller4084]

@@Lokear Ooh, that’s a good idea. I have always explained autism to other people as being a tourist in another country and you forgot the tourist book and language book a home, so you have to learn a completely different language and culture with no to little instructions.

[@avivastudios2311]

The beliefs system is probably the best concept they could have possibly chosen.

[@caramelcwossont]

I think something nice was seeing the character development. More specifically, Joy. She lets the other emotions have more control over Riley then in the first film, as a way to show her growing from her lesson. For example, letting Riley feel sad at first when going to her school. also “Will Stolas ever get a degree of self awareness ever?”

[@velky_reeds]

i also love the detail towards the end where all the bad memories made it's way into the beliefs, showing that all our bad memories are all part of who we are as a person and we shouldn't push them all back

[@TheAnimationAnalyst]

SPOILERS FOR INSIDE OUT 2 BELOW: I think the thing I love MOST about Inside Out 2 is how it sort of "deconstructs" the first movie in how it depicted the Emotions being "pilots" that literally control Riley and who she is (to an extent), without it feeling at all like it “breaks the rules/worldbuilding” established up til now; instead feeling more like a “recontextualization” of what the first film depicted, if you will. Hell, even Riley “calling out” to Joy in the end (as evidenced by Sadness saying “Riley wants you”) is another BRILLIANT recontextulization of the first movie: explaining why Sadness kept “interfering” with Joy trying to keep Riley happy in a way that she couldn't explain/understand why, heavily implying it was Riley WANTING to be sad and Sadness was just (unknowingly) acting on instinct, further implying that Joy really WAS putting her in denial (aka blind optimism); Sadness being the one to tell Joy to go to Riley in the end of Inside Out 2 is further evident of this fact IMO.

[@dustymcwari4468]

It also goes full circle how in the first film Joy ends up telling Sadness Riley needs her, and here its the other way around with Sadness now telling Joy she's the one needed this time

[@devofficialchannel]

Even in the scene where Riley apologises to her old friends for how she acted, none of the emotions were controlling her, which shows that she is capable of making her own decisions while the emotions mainly serve as a "boost".

[@user-hermesiscool]

Maya Hawke did an AMAZING job with the voice acting

[@justinriley]

Ayo Edebiri as Envy was my favorite new addition.

[@yuenmienyu]

I love ayo edebiri

[@Goleon]

I had to warn everyone I talk to on Discord (including in a server I’m in) about there being a panic attack scene cause of how on point it is. My anxiety has gone from an emotion to a disorder (sometimes it goes back to being an emotion but that varies) and as such I can relate to Riley during hers but at the same time it’s a bit nerve wracking because again I’ve dealt with it a lot since childhood. However I do appreciate the realistic depiction of it as it shows the staff once again did their homework with this. I also like how Riley’s friends went to help her on it. Reminds me of when my friends, family and even complete strangers would help me calm down from mine own. And I’m serious on the last one. Like I had a breakdown in front of Lisa Ortiz because my day at the con was going awful and she quickly got up from behind her table to go over to me to help calm me down. She didn’t leave my side till I assured her that I was ok again. We really need more people like her in the world.

[@SleepyPossums]

When Joy says near the end of the film “Maybe that’s just how it is. When we grow up, we just have less Joy…” HIT ME LIKE A TRUCK 😭

[@amethystimagination3332]

I love that Joy retained her lesson from the first movie. So many sequels have the main character revert to square one but Joy starts the movie hearing anxiety out and letting her have access to the console, which she never would’ve done in the first movie.

[@hunterolaughlin]

Same. I loved seeing how Joy and Sadness’s relationship has grown since the first film in not only acknowledging her in the round-up of emotions at the beginning and letting her take control of the counsel, but letting her come with her to see the new area of Riley’s mind. It’s nice seeing Joy retained the growth she had in the previous film unlike another animated sequel I can think of such as Sing 2 where Buster Moon resorts to lying AGAIN despite suffering the major consequences of doing so in the previous film. I guess the destruction of his theater meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to him in that first film. 🤦‍♂️

[@deandredukes95]

Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a Inside Out 3 in the making

[@ladypool1404]

If it's about how Ryley's mother and father met, that could be interresting! Seeing them as kids and teenagers, the mother falling for the brazilian pilote. I think it can make a good movie 🙂

[@lusilusi6371]

​@@ladypool1404that more prequel then sequel

[@slashermaster28]

A TV series was just announced, so that's something.

[@MRdaBakkle]

I felt that Anxiety's arc was very similar to Joy's. Anxiety has to learn that she doesn't have to control everything for Riley to have a good life. Joy felt that she was the good emotion and did a lot of the same things Anxiety did. Joy was the driver the whole time, and while Anger, Fear, Disgust and Sadness all had their moments they all were pushed away when the threat was resolved. Anxiety suppresses the OG emotions just like Joy suppresses Sadness.

[@Sims3Timeout]

I feel like having Joy being the leader and the decision maker is so important because it’s symbolic with life. No one wants to be lead in life by their anxiety or sadness or shame. No matter how old you get, you still want to get joy and happiness out of it and lead with whatever makes you happy.

[@dustymcwari4468]

Riley's mom is lead by Sadness tho

[@kiwiclover9486]

@@dustymcwari4468 i think that's an oversimplification to say she's led by empathy(i feel sad because you do), and how her dad is led by protectiveness(i am angry for you); at least it seems that way to me

[@dustymcwari4468]

@@kiwiclover9486 I meant literally a Sadness is the lead of the emotions of Riley's mom, just how a Joy leads Riley's, though yeh, that means her mom is led by empathy, which the Sadness in her mind provides, which is to answer op mentioning Sadness as a bad thing, when there's more to the Sadnesses like you say

[@marvin39195]

7:47 my headcanon for the purpose of the other new emotions is Envy- Helping riley be her best self, she can possibly be in any possible scenario Embarrassment- Making Riley know her limits in certain social situations Ennui- keeps Riley away from obsessing over things that aren't worth the time of energy

[@amcalycat93]

My favorite moment was at the end when Anxiety was frozen at the consoul and Joy told her it was okay to let go. That's what anxiety does to me, freezes me in place, and when Riley was 'calling' to Joy, wanting her to take hold while she was skating. Oh, that got me in the feeeels...

[@CJBooks4]

I love how relatably anxious you got at the tail end of your video before asking us what we thought about it, which came across to me as "And now here's the thematic part of the video where Cellspex shows her anxiety"😅

[@dangreen3868]

inside out has always been an important movie to people who have DID/OSDD/etc, with the emotions being able to be read as alters. inside out 2 interestingly enough is both less and more plural depending on how you read it. the sense of self was really interesting because as a system we don't just have one of those, we have many. on the other hand, the emotions were even more like alters this time around, with anxiety in particular acting like a persecutor. a persecutor is an alter who hurts the rest of the system, and they're often depicted as monstrous, but most often they are like anxiety is in this film, well meaning. this film being able to be read as either a plural or singlet experience is great because it shows off the fact that the behavior of a persecutor in a system is equivalent to self destructive behavior in a singlet, not them just being evil or something. so yeah, we really really liked this movie!

[@MagicPlushy]

Ooo I'm early so here are my thoughts! I thought Inside Out 2 was surprisingly a great film considering the recent trend of Pixar and Disney films not living up to the standards their films once were. I am hopeful that Disney and Pixar can revive their legacy again and also Anxiety is me IRL

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

I just hope the success of the film would changed Pixar’s mind. As for reviving their legacy? Don’t get you your fingers cross. Since everyone felt disappointed at DreamWorks after releasing mid or bad movies after Puss in Boots 2… I really think everyone should stop putting their expectations too high.

[@firecrakerj3312]

Inside Out 2 is going to go down as being this generation’s Toy Story 2.

[@JoshuaZhang1405]

Agree this and Toy Story 2, and Toy Story 3 not Toy Story 4 are consider to me the best Pixar Sequels they have done for first films for Inside Out and Toy Story.

[@klimmr]

6:41 I'm just wondering how many people actually said, "Oh, Pouchy," out loud in the theater.

[@Graciechan-39]

A few people did when I went! (Me included)

[@brianlevine871]

The new emotions were a riot to watch, especially with how well the film handled Anxiety. I love how it portrayed the orange muppet as a well-intentioned extremist that wanted to help Riley the best she could, only to eventually realize the error of her ways and work together with Joy's crew. The only major thing that held this movie back for me was how they recycled several plot points from its predecessor. This includes some circumstance causing Joy and at least one other emotion to exit the control room, returning a MacGuffin back to said control room, Riley distancing herself from loved ones and making poor choices before reconciling with those closest to her, and Joy/Anxiety learning to accept help from emotions they believed were causing trouble. But outside of that one major issue, I thought the movie was fun and succeeded in discussing its themes.

[@Petpatrol2]

While I agree about Envy and Ennui kind of just... Being there and, while occasionaly ocntributing to the narrative, generally don't and are not really shown the purpose they serve for Riley... I do not think the same can be said for embarrassment. I think he had both purpose in the story and a contributor to riley's brain in negating negative behavior and putting a stop to it.

[@vstro_i]

(I’m paraphrasing) “I don’t know how to stop Anxiety. Maybe you can’t. Maybe as you get older, you feel less joy” hit me *HARD*

[@blackqweenmars]

Who said that?

[@paintrainfunhousetwo]

@@blackqweenmarsjoy did

[@JaredRotenberg]

Anxiety just needs to watch Kung Fu Panda. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery but today is a gift, and that is why it’s called the present

[@JulianGreystoke]

The scene with the imagination fueling anxiety really hit home. I have honestly too good of an imagination and boy howdy does it fuel my anxiety!

[@eeee8818]

I honestly found the original emotions more likable than in the past movie. With joy snapping, the other emotions comforting her, and joy clearly showing growth with how she treats sadness, it feels like they have a lot more depth.

[@Astrolionking]

I didn’t cry during the first film (I know shocker) but I sobbed so hard during this film bc it something I DESPERATELY needed as a now 20 year old dealing with anxiety and self love.

[@daelen.cclark]

I still like how Fear tells Anxiety that they’ll get along great.

[@moxstoleyoursocks2241]

7:26 I’d say the reason they don’t say directly what Envy, Ennui, and Embarrassment do is because they instead *show* us what they do throughout the movie. Ennui helps Riley keep her cool, Embarrassment prevents Riley from making a fool of herself, and Envy…drives her ambition? I don’t know, we didn’t get a lot about her.

[@poisonarrow658]

I think Envy works as a foil to Disgust. Disgust is supposed to tell Riley what she doesnt like, while Envy does the opposite and shows Riley what she wants to have or be.

[@moxstoleyoursocks2241]

@@poisonarrow658 Yeah that tracks, thanks

[@Chilltoons-kl3jl]

Growing up, inside out was my FAVOURITE MOVIE, so given Disney's recent track record, i was very VERY scared it was gonna be a flop. I am honestly so relieved it wasn't.

[@cheetaking243]

This movie hit just as deeply as (if not more than) the original for me. As someone who struggles with feeling not good enough constantly, to the point that it sabotages my joy in things that I normally enjoy, this movie came for me personally. The whole climax from "I'm not good enough" to her sense of self evolving absolutely destroyed me. It got that aspect of it SO right. It hurt so good.

[@Adam-xd9tr]

6:54 It helps that the jokes with the character last just long enough to be funny without overstaying their welcome. The varied reactions from other characters also adds to the joke, and is reflective of how some people look back on those kind of shows fondly and others with annoyance.

[@bumble_bbgun]

Something I think most people don’t realize about Joy looking at memories and going “What am I missing?” is supposed to be a parallel of the first movie where she looks through the core memory and sees that sadness helped make the situation joyful. Joy looks at all the discarded memories to see if she is “missing something” like she did in the first movie. It’s not the writers talking to themselves going “What are we gonna do?” It’s a callback to the first film.

[@Dimensioneer88]

The message reminded me of the Ned's Declassified episode on Stress when iTeacher tells Moze "A little stress can be a good thing. It's like an alarm in your head that tells when to make changes."

[@rhetiq9989]

The Inside Out movies and especially this one are so great because it appeals to literally everyone, from kids to adults. I’d argue adults would get even more out of them because of their complex narrative about mind systematics that would fly over most kids’ heads. They’re things that are more appreciated as we grow up, and from the way they have told Riley’s stories so far they’re going to be timeless classics easily.

[@Captain8ball]

Spoilers: My only problem with the movies that it still had joy and the emotion working on the console one at a time. working by herself and undermined anxiety. Like anxiety can be useful when use effectively. It’s good to be prepared, but too much of everything can lead to disaster. Like having joy and anxiety work on the console at the same time together for Rylie’s hockey game. Because she can be anticipating the worst, but also having fun.

[@lcako1616]

Didn't sadness and embarrasselment work together on the console in the movie at one point. Embarrassment covered most of the console while sadness covered a small part he couldn't reach.

[@OmniMon94]

Inside Out 2 is an example on how Disney should strive to be instead of how Disney is being today Whether it's the times changing at least they have passion

[@lancerguy3667]

I'm glad it's pretty good, and doing well... though I worry this'll be another example of companies learning all the wrong lessons. Outperforming Lightyear and Wish in the span of a weekend is vindicating, as someone who was let down by both... but I have a funny feeling they're going to look at that and say "Yeah, we're right to focus on mascots and sequels. That's all that can work" Instead of, y'know, "Maybe we could try making our stand-alone movies not be mediocre."

[@gsamalot]

as someone who suffer the latter of anxiety of shutting down when it happens this was a pretty good depiction of this emotion and how it can really mess with you an pop up in the worst possible times

[@ImperialWarrior6490]

The fact that Disney have the greenlight to the imagination scene that is very good comparison to how Disney treats its animators is incredible! Never expected them let that joke pass. Now if only Warner Bros and HBO could have that humility to them when it came to Coyote vs ACME.

[@excitablepack7076]

I thought the saying was: “We can’t change the past, but we can change the future.”

[@theownerofthisaccount2521]

The amount of tears I shed in this movie could fill a water fountain. I’ve struggled with severe anxiety for a huge chunk of my life and related heavily to some of the stuff like it taking over the imagination and keeping you up on the what if’s, the panic attacks, and the feeling of not being good enough despite all your efforts. I think the message of anxiety and the regrettable memories being as much apart of who you are because you are human was beautiful

[@reasyrandom]

Before I watched the movie, I assumed Envy was going to work as a Joy substitute: The only semblance of Joy Riley would have when starting puberty was wanting to be more like other people.

[@skyenight-by8yh]

To be honest, I’m quite pessimistic about the future myself, and Anxiety is honestly me sometimes with overanalyzing things. 😅 The ‘sense of self’ and the belief system were *excellent* concepts as well. ❤

[@geministrial950]

Unrelated but ayo TLK oc pfp

[@GPischke]

This movie is so good. I'm glad it's doing so well in theaters. I loved the new mental concepts that were explored here and how, thanks to Anxiety, Riley's new sense of self was a literal bundle of nerves.

[@PAT.OS96]

inside out brought people back to cinemas. I unironically have not seen a full cinema room in my country in years! I didnt even like the first one that much, I watched it once and forgot about it quickly, but I was really excited to watch this one.

[@mattchewdraws]

SPOILER ALERT: 🚨 The scene where Riley calls to Joy is now becoming one of my all-time favorite Pixar moments. It was such a beautiful surprise, we always saw Riley’s emotions controlling her actions, but we’ve never seen Riley herself consciously call to her emotions, culminating in the movie’s themes of self-awareness. It perfectly illustrates what was going on inside my head watching this scene. Joy is right there with Woody as my favorite Pixar character, and to see her have that moment with Riley brought me to tears. Mirroring the beginning of the first movie, it’s a brilliant depiction of how much Riley has matured as a person and how far Joy has progressed as a character. Pixar doesn’t always treat their other franchises in the way they probably should, but it seems they really care about this one, Inside Out just feels so genuine. I was immensely satisfied with the sequel, it truly felt like a continuation of the first one rather than just a simple rehash. I can totally see myself watching 1 & 2 back-to-back as one movie.

[@TheLegendaryMovieCritic]

Inside Out 2 is a phenomenal Pixar sequel that is just as emotional as Inside Out with Anxiety involved!

[@DORAisD34D]

Inside Out 2 feels so much smaller. The "Sarcasm" and "Brainstorm" are great world building, but they don't work too well as roadblocks because they aren't really a result of Riley's conflicting emotions. They're just a result of Riley growing up/literally thinking! (In the first movie, the roadblocks were Riley as a person breaking apart). Good movie- that I wish didn't try to copy the same formula of the first movie and would have expressed its strong themes in a better way. Great humor, themes, and world building, but bad plot, and too fast paced so it's emotional beats felt...rushed, and didn’t hit that hard

[@sarahm9209]

My interpretation of the envy in the movie leaned less into the jealousy traits and more into the ambition traits that come with envy as an emotion. I don’t think that necessarily makes it less accurate to the emotion. It’s just a different take because most media takes it as pure jealousy. I also saw Ennui as the opposite of anxiety purpose wise. Where anxiety worried about what to say and how it would affect them down the road Ennui decided to just have Riley say nothing and nod along since she doesn’t always need to respond to everything. While I agree nothing can really beat the first movie, I really liked the new emotions presented and the sequel as a whole still left me crying at the end.

[@justinriley]

Absolutely loved this one!

[@parycartoons6840]

I honestly get why they went the route they did with Anxiety. Just like how the first movie wanted to portray the good and bad of sadness this movie wanted to portray the good and bad of anxiety. Thomas Sanders once made a video about it, no anxiety is also a bad thing.

[@CallumQuinnCreates]

Glad you found the film enjoyable! 😁 I personally thought it was even BETTER than Inside-out 1! Something I really enjoyed is the subtext that none of the emotions are objectively bad. Envy for instance inspires Riley to emulate qualities she finds desirable in others. The problem is when one emotion dominates the others as seen with Joy in 1 and Anxiety in 2.

[@shinjiikari6894]

I just think it’s so cool how they managed to properly represent the ongoing maturity that happens in our minds, like as you grow up everything becomes a lot more complex and everything becomes less broad

[@harveymaltezmansilla8098]

I love the Movie, I like the Character and their Voices, The Jokes, The Slight Jab at Disney's treatment of Animators to the Way, The Anxiety Attack was treated Maturely and Respectful (As far as Knowledge go, I'm not a Doctor), and just how Wholesome, It was, I felt like watching the First Inside Out in Theaters, All over again.

[@niv731]

"Monkie Kid season 5 will come out... eventually" is a quote I will be thinking about until... well, y'know.

[@lxmesoda]

ITS PROB COMING OUT THIS WEEK?? uf not then its maybe within the next two weeks

[@niv731]

@@lxmesoda is that a statement or a question?

[@Shadow_Hunter_X]

You singing overwhelmed was something I've never knew i needed

[@Gatekid3]

I love this movie. Anxiety especially. my biggest complaint is they had a really good idea showing that joy and anxiety were doing the same thing (shaping Rileys mind in a specific way), but we never see the problems with Joy's way. I didn't realize what Joy was doing was bad until they made the connection at the end. "being a winner/good friend" are pretty positive things, but I think the movie missed the opportunity to show that putting up this high standard would only make her crash if she was ever not a good friend/winner. All the scenes where she is a bad friend/messes up are when she already had her sense of self removed so it doesn't read as Joy setting her up to fail, but instead Anxiety mainly being the one driving Riley to a worse off state. maybe anxiety could have added a core to the beliefs that would have rippled and shown how fragile Rileys sense of self was (maybe the fact that it was so easy to remove was the representation of that). Anywho. I loved this movie and the new emotions, but ended up finding Joy to be weaker this time around. *insert quote about joy fading with age here*

[@dustymcwari4468]

From how I see it, the thing with that is that Joy realized she's been making Riley live a happy lie all this time by artificially removing every bad moment she had in her life from her beliefs, making her think she was pure and free of any flaws, blissfully ignorant, which made her struggle fitting in at the camp at first because she never saw herself as in need of any improvements, which got her into trouble because everyone else could see said flaws very clearly, that wake up call let Anxiety take over Which is the complete opposite to Anxiety's problem, in her mission of making Riley the best version of herself, she wanted Riley to quit ignoring her flaws and work hard to refine where she was lacking most, which on paper sounds nice, and at first it was working, but she ended up making Riley not just acknowledge her flaws, but be overly fixated in them, especially when that obsession to be the best began making her commit even bigger mistakes and started making her hurt the people she treasured and admired most because Anxiety's approach was being way too cold, risky, and self-centered, that only made Riley see herself in a very negative light overall, that's why neither side was in the right, which Joy realized they were not letting Riley accept herself for who she really is as a whole, and that needed to change asap

[@Gatekid3]

@@dustymcwari4468 I agree with this, but my point was more that the movie makes that really clear with Anxiety but not as much with Joy. When those final scenes hit, I got what they were trying to do, but I while i feel like the movie shows what you described for anxiety the stuff you are saying about Joy wasn't really shown or portrayed well. The idea is really good, but i dont think it was as earned for joy

[@emanueltheodorus1056]

This movie is by far Pixar's best sequel in quite a long time. I love the way this movie just keeps on expanding the ongoing world building inside Riley's head, and on top of that, this movie honestly is better at making Riley her own character rather than the puppet of the emotions. The best part is that the emotions doesn't really fall into the same trap in the first movie as can be seen from the "broken" control scene, Anxiety had a legit reason to take over the controls because Riley's future is basically uncertain and they needed plans, Joy wanting to enjoy all the good memories for now ends up kinda blindsiding her from the future. It's a very enjoyable watch for me.

[@SwellStuff483]

10:05 Honestly, I’m actually kind of happy to see Disney taking a chance on fresh young talent. Upon doing some research into them, it seems like they’re pretty much musical prodigies and they’ve already got a Grammy win under their belt. I've got faith in them.

[@leroypreston2973]

The other bit in imagination land was mount crushmore. Probably a subtle hint on what else the imagination focuses on as a teen/adult. Beyond catastrophizing everything. On hot people, the things we want to do with them and all the outfits we want to see them in. We would focus on something that gives us a more adult joy versus the joy from fantasizing of pretending to be a knight or a superhero or something. I figured mount crushmore was the censor approved indicator of a teenage imagination.

[@riley3001]

it's always a good day when you upload cell :3

[@starry-t4y]

I love all the small details, symbolism, and design of this movie, it’s kind of amazing

[@kingsleycy3450]

Really hoping against hope that Disney doesn't treat its financial success as evidence there needs to be more sequels

[@MightyMewtron]

I think the new Sense of Self getting slowly bigger and building up to the recurring intrusive thoughts worked for the "stress gauge" idea decently enough. Though I also would've loved more elaboration on the new emotions' "positive" purpose and such.

[@begoneheretic9760]

I’d say that envy doesn’t necessarily have to manifest in a negative way. It can also manifest in admiration or simply wanting something you don’t have yet, rather than resentment and jealousy. Like thinking about your future dream job you would love to have one day.

[@justaguywhowatchesyoutube5588]

6:30 Mappa has been real quiet since you said that.

[@noratheelk3729]

What’s crazy is that I was younger than Riley when the first film came out. Now I’m older.

[@pathological8231]

I would like to point out that Envy does not always mean Resentment. Envy is more if a childish emotion, looking up to older people as the goal to strive for. Children often look at others and go “mommy i want that can i have it”. Resentment is more like jealousy.