Inside Saudi company’s sweet water deal in Arizona

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The Arizona Republic’s Rob O’Dell explains why a Saudi Arabian company’s deal for Arizona water raises questions for taxpayers, water users, the Legislature and the governor.

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@angelaonthego
@angelaonthego 2 жыл бұрын
The problem isn’t that it’s being used to grow alfalfa. The problem is that a foreign govt got a sweetheart deal using taxpayer resources while taxpayers don’t have access to those resources and are paying high premiums. And who is pocketing the $$? It’s not going back into the public coffers….
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, the insult to injury IS the fact that they're growing alfalfa to feed cows/animals, not even for people!
@jerrrdy
@jerrrdy 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to America First? Working class taxes pay for 20% of Israel’s army and fund their Dome program??? The don’t even have oil!!!!
@krabysniper
@krabysniper 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigwooly8014 if it's feeding animals that Americans get to feed their families at a sweetheart deal of free, great. If those animals are ro feed the trash in the middle east, they are not humans and this needs to be stopped, IN WHATEVER WAY possible.
@krabysniper
@krabysniper 2 жыл бұрын
@Jason McDaniel guaranteed it was the lefty 💩 head politicians in Arizona, all you lefties will suffer your crimes.
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
Why did the Republicans do this? Are they the bad guys?
@theNikkiDash
@theNikkiDash 2 жыл бұрын
Just follow the money. They don't care about us (Arizonans, Americans) at all.
@heidi22209
@heidi22209 2 жыл бұрын
How did this happen?
@KB-nt7eg
@KB-nt7eg 2 жыл бұрын
@J F thank God you have the appearance of voting.
@247VillainStatus
@247VillainStatus 2 жыл бұрын
No political party will save us. When are people going to learn?
@Rythmortis
@Rythmortis 2 жыл бұрын
@J F voting is what got us here, dip.
@realityjunky
@realityjunky 2 жыл бұрын
@@heidi22209 Because no one stopped them.
@YeahYall
@YeahYall 2 жыл бұрын
This isn't about the Saudis. This is definitely about corruption in state government and personal greed. No way a local resident would have gotten a deal like this.
@tRumpForPrison24
@tRumpForPrison24 2 жыл бұрын
It’s about Gov Ducey and Saudi! Corrupt as they come. Anything to line their pockets, even being a traitor to their own country!
@tomaszwida
@tomaszwida 2 жыл бұрын
well u need to stop voting against your own interest, democracy is still strong in this country if u ignore ur civic duty and only 30% of population vote for your state electros this is what u get.
@lisabrown7959
@lisabrown7959 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@NoNo-ce8xb
@NoNo-ce8xb 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomaszwida yeah .... voting ..... that's the problem ......... LOL Damn you dumb af man ...
@YeahYall
@YeahYall Жыл бұрын
@@tomaszwida Tell that to the folks in that community who voted their leadership into position.
@anastacie40
@anastacie40 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this story, exposing some of the corruption that's taking place every day (behind closed doors), reporter Rob O'Dell, (with The Arizona Republic). Keep shining light on the corruption in AZ. Much respect to you, Mr. O'Dell.👏
@bryanforeman3066
@bryanforeman3066 2 жыл бұрын
This report is very good, lets people know Republican party that runs Arizona don't give a damn about the people. Eyes open in Arizona 😎😎💯
@RivalStyles
@RivalStyles 2 жыл бұрын
This is so bad. But this is an Issue with Arizona. How can you not meter the water usage of each property owner. Water should be looked after and accounted for. Especially when it's a non renewable source. No matter who owns it. Arizona needs to take action. Not just against the Saudi farm but all farms and users of its water sources. Literally has nothing to do with privacy. It should not be a right to hide how much water you use. Convince me differently. I'm all ears.
@novalone3211
@novalone3211 2 жыл бұрын
Bot
@polaroidwhite9037
@polaroidwhite9037 2 жыл бұрын
But trump said it's all fake news?
@puccisnoopy
@puccisnoopy 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe John Oliver needs this news piece for his highly watched show on HBO
@libiure
@libiure 2 жыл бұрын
the government officials that cut the deal got a lot of money in their pockets - the state attorney general's office should be investigating and indicting everyone that took bribes and payoffs ..
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 2 жыл бұрын
The AG probably has stuffed pockets too
@kerryjones1257
@kerryjones1257 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@davesnothereman5150
@davesnothereman5150 2 жыл бұрын
And apply eminent domain
@Matt-fl8uy
@Matt-fl8uy 2 жыл бұрын
The Republicans laughed at the chump tax payers all the way to the bank.
@aidanhogg5146
@aidanhogg5146 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-fl8uy if we are going to fix things we must realize it’s not a dem rep problem.. it’s money greed It is a lack of consciousness, compassion, and community morals in the collective. We make up the state so it’s our collective problem/fault. We can’t be blaming everything but ourselves for what we are and create. Time to evolve.
@mdj864
@mdj864 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this on Cronkite news YEARS ago-- People who lived in the area suddenly had their wells go dry. In the middle of our current water crisis, over 800 residents on the outskirts of scottsdale who were forced to haul water after their wells stopped producing, are now being told that as of January 2023, the state will no longer allow them to have water hauled to their homes-- and guess what? City of scottsdale has approved the construction of resort homes which will share the same boundary with these residents. The greed and corruption of Arizona's govt is out of control.
@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536
@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch. This is absolutely brutal. One thing America is bad at is taking care of its own citizens' needs vs the needs and desires of foreigners.
@valerierogers9609
@valerierogers9609 2 жыл бұрын
You can't have drinking water but foreigners can mega irrigate crops to send overseas 😑
@domusloculi8073
@domusloculi8073 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for seeing our state government for what it is. It's not a democrat or republican problem, it's a we don't care about the people of Arizona problem. Governor Ducey is a shrewd business man with absolutely no interest in serving our needs only his and the entitled. If your not bring millions or billions of dollars into the state then you don't matter.
@desertBirdDogs
@desertBirdDogs 2 жыл бұрын
Thank the developers for going around the county on this. You call it Scottsdale but it's not. Scottsdale has its own residents to think about, Rio Verde isn't part of that.
@JB-dk3qc
@JB-dk3qc 2 жыл бұрын
Haul your own water.
@yairmiranda992
@yairmiranda992 2 жыл бұрын
I worked there. Fondomonte California, Arizona. They use so much water with no guilt at all. It is insane how much water they use.
@Mike__B
@Mike__B 2 жыл бұрын
Why should they feel guilt? They rent the land and abide by the rules that are there. The problem is the state simply doesn't have any damn rules.
@rambo3801
@rambo3801 2 жыл бұрын
You'd think with being the mecca of big tech they'd figure better ways for water usage in agriculture but they will kick the can until there is a real problem.
@PowerfulKundalini
@PowerfulKundalini 2 жыл бұрын
@@rambo3801 hard to believe people that live in the middle of the desert aren’t good at farming crops…. Hmmm lol
@warofhero
@warofhero 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mike__B State has rules and laws but people were corrupted by money.
@bookbeing
@bookbeing Жыл бұрын
@@Mike__B they have lots of rules for the poor working chumps in their districts.
@mlight6845
@mlight6845 2 жыл бұрын
As an Arizonan spending my career in making sure there is high quality, reliable water, this makes my blood boil.
@nicolatesla5786
@nicolatesla5786 2 жыл бұрын
can something be done? this is insane!!!!
@joefran619
@joefran619 2 жыл бұрын
it should
@Enlighten1640
@Enlighten1640 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute BS, can't believe this 😡
@davidschmidt270
@davidschmidt270 2 жыл бұрын
I too live in Arizona....and yeah....this is SICKENING!
@kitkatkat7894
@kitkatkat7894 2 жыл бұрын
California.doing the same.thing Democrats run the corruption on all the nation's life resources they don't. Care about the citizens of this country this has been going.on for years, I don't vote for them .
@RobToGame
@RobToGame 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the easy solution is to get rid of the bad rental and get back ALL the water. Someone got a huge kick back!!!
@Thegreendingler
@Thegreendingler 2 жыл бұрын
@Trace Inate my man
@ultratusk
@ultratusk 2 жыл бұрын
@Trace Inate salt*
@Lzrdman91
@Lzrdman91 2 жыл бұрын
The greed of this state is going to be our downfall.
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
But Arizona is run by Republicans.. are they the bad guys?
@Wildlonesome77
@Wildlonesome77 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me so damn angry.Were supposed to have politicians that look out for the people of our great state. Yet they allow this type of shoddy,harmful business to happen.Rise up Arizona, let your voices be heard!
@mikeodonnell9888
@mikeodonnell9888 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm but most of your politicians are Saudi loving trumptards
@waleed8530
@waleed8530 2 жыл бұрын
@Jason McDaniel We buy both Red and Blue. Biden is coming here as well very soon. Thanks for business.
@nathankoroush7918
@nathankoroush7918 2 жыл бұрын
@Jason McDaniel The problem is both sides, they are all in it for themselves. Once we all figure this out things might change. America first F the rest.
@sean-or1nc
@sean-or1nc 2 жыл бұрын
@Jason McDaniel i dont understand what you mean ?
@Hanshuber161
@Hanshuber161 2 жыл бұрын
The globalization the modern advances in technology has ushered in means that things are no longer restricted to geographical limitations. If there is a rich Saudi prince who can afford to pay money and buy stuff in AZ, then it is fair game. If there is a super rich Chinese billionaire who has enough money to buy entire towns in California, then it is fair game too. This is the sad reality and eventuality of the modern world we live in. Wake up!
@casienwhey
@casienwhey 2 жыл бұрын
Alfalfa is a water intensive crop. Why are crops like this even being grown in a desert where water is scarce? You see stories about how the Colorado River is rapidly being depleted and drastic steps may be needed. I'd like to see states like Arizona actually taking such steps now.
@Chief6945
@Chief6945 2 жыл бұрын
It's already too late.
@corpsman827
@corpsman827 2 жыл бұрын
Because of the amount of sunshine it receives each year.
@jettison8390
@jettison8390 2 жыл бұрын
The environment is better.. for instance, less insects to eat the crop. But you have a great point.
@jenson1569
@jenson1569 2 жыл бұрын
I think it seemed like a good idea decades ago since people didn’t understand there’d be massive consequences taking water from rivers, back then the population was a fraction of the size it is today and so was the water use-age. If you think the problem is bad here, look at what happened with the Aral Sea.
@cheddarcheese
@cheddarcheese 2 жыл бұрын
Do you really want the government telling you what to grow?
@Iam_msdeeyadig
@Iam_msdeeyadig 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, so now we find out the truth about our water ... Wow 🙄🤷
@j.d.garcia2757
@j.d.garcia2757 2 жыл бұрын
There's even a sweeter deal with Coca Cola in Mexico with water privatization. People have died over this deal. Beer companies too.
@jerryeinstandig7996
@jerryeinstandig7996 2 жыл бұрын
beer is a strategic resource
@All4Grogg
@All4Grogg 2 жыл бұрын
At the same time Mexico LOVES Coca Cola, they have the highest per capita consumption in the world by a wide margin.
@lokeyGee87
@lokeyGee87 2 жыл бұрын
@@All4Grogg I hear Coca Cola is more available than water in some Mexican towns.
@metalgearsolidsnake6978
@metalgearsolidsnake6978 2 жыл бұрын
@@All4Grogg it taste good, you have to admit it
@mar56cos
@mar56cos 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the people of Arizona need to vote this issue out
@LowenKM
@LowenKM 2 жыл бұрын
"But, but... we have much more _important_ things to worry about (aka, More Guns, Building The Wall, Ebil Kalifornians, Overturning Elections, etc. ...)!"
@deborahfox4206
@deborahfox4206 2 жыл бұрын
It’s ridiculous to farm in the desert in the first place!
@jjuanmarin
@jjuanmarin 2 жыл бұрын
not if they get all the water they want for free
@phoenixchick5088
@phoenixchick5088 2 жыл бұрын
So when it's time to renew the lease is their rent doubling like everyone else!?
@tomaszwida
@tomaszwida 2 жыл бұрын
doubling wound not be nearly enough they got a land for 1/6 of the market price, so doubling it it would be still a sweet deal for them 1/3 of a market price
@michaelmichaelagnew8503
@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Жыл бұрын
They should be charging them for the water period.
@mspuddin931
@mspuddin931 2 жыл бұрын
As rural residential wells around them go dry 🤦‍♀️ Go Arizona!
@Chris-re3xr
@Chris-re3xr 2 жыл бұрын
When will people wake up!
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
Why aren't the Republicans doing anything about it? Unless they want it to happend and want people to suffer? Good luck out there
@Frank-gt6wp
@Frank-gt6wp Жыл бұрын
Arizona is at fault for having dummies as leaders.
@kellikelli4413
@kellikelli4413 2 жыл бұрын
Spread the word to get citizens involved to stop these injustices and suicidal sweetheart deals .
@SuzanneWho
@SuzanneWho 2 жыл бұрын
What about the foreign ownership of land in SE Arizona used for dairy/ cattle? Also depleting the aquifers and ruining local wells.
@Beastbadd84
@Beastbadd84 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep those Suadi cows nice and fed at the expense of the most precious resource in the desert. This crop is the culprit to the destruction of Saudi's aquifers, yet did the Arizona leader's research this? They don't care, they will suck this state dry for Dollar Almighty.
@user-gn5ne2fm6m
@user-gn5ne2fm6m 2 жыл бұрын
A good step from Saudi Arabia 👍.. you have a large number of rivers, you do not suffer from a water problem, nothing will happen if Saudi Arabia takes a little of your groundwater..
@Beastbadd84
@Beastbadd84 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-gn5ne2fm6m Don't suffer from water problems? Says the guy an ocean away. We have major water issues in Pheonix, the ground is cracking and collapsing where ground water aquifers were once. Lake Mead and Powell are both approaching dead pools. Water rationing will be forced upon the people sooner than later. Also this same crop destroyed Sudi's aquifers and now looking to destroy ours. Phoenix is a desert not a lush landscape, we need our water.
@xxPlaceboxx
@xxPlaceboxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-gn5ne2fm6m You have a large number of poop trucks. Why not invest in basic plumbing?
@ottallman
@ottallman 2 жыл бұрын
​@@user-gn5ne2fm6m shoot, a little is all we have.
@angelaonthego
@angelaonthego 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s even for the cows-I think it’s for their prize ponies.
@VIC-ux8hd
@VIC-ux8hd 2 жыл бұрын
Ground water ? REALLY??? Of all places in Arizona?? How about invest tax payers money for future water resources instead of leasing state own land & water to foreign farmers??
@krabysniper
@krabysniper 2 жыл бұрын
@@natedos6817 after the last election and the evidence of what happened in crapazona, don't try to pin this on conservatives you lefty 🐑💩
@jaymacpherson8167
@jaymacpherson8167 2 жыл бұрын
This ground water withdrawal sounds like a “non-exempt” use, which means a water right from the state is required from the Arizona Water Resources Department. AWRD requires an annual report of the quantity withdrawn. Impossible to say without information from AWRD whether this water use is a legal issue. The bottom line tho, given alfalfa is one of the more water-intensive crops, seems irresponsible to allow farming it using an over-drafted aquifer.
@b34V15heh
@b34V15heh 2 жыл бұрын
"Laws for thee, But not for me!"
@mdj864
@mdj864 2 жыл бұрын
The AZ lands which have no restrictions on ground water pumping are being snapped up by investment and private equity firms. The water is dirt cheap, and the growing season extensive, making these investments highly profitable (until they suck the water dry.) Who is allowing this? Both the State and USDA. And yet the residents who depend on this water to survive, are being kept in the dark.
@alexj.5207
@alexj.5207 Жыл бұрын
That problem isn't the legality.
@xx133
@xx133 2 жыл бұрын
This is what deregulation gets you. You get what you vote for. You’re lucky the local news even covered this, there’s a lot of pressure behind the scenes for them not to. Don’t be surprised if you never hear this story again.
@tomaszwida
@tomaszwida 2 жыл бұрын
true people like to complain about" big government bad" but in all honesty the higher is its harder to do these corrupted deals too many of eyes on them, with local politician these type of corruption is just tuesday. and the data back this up. the lower the position of power the higher the corruption is. for some people they want no government oversight and what this translate in a practical sense they want people to be as corrupted as possible.
@iclite3656
@iclite3656 2 жыл бұрын
Arizona is in a drought.
@heidi22209
@heidi22209 2 жыл бұрын
Lol... funny. Aren't they always? Asking for a friend
@iclite3656
@iclite3656 2 жыл бұрын
Right Heidi Frey, the saudi,s are ALWAYS asking for friends, lol, but, as always, they ask the WRONG Ones.
@v8stmpr
@v8stmpr 2 жыл бұрын
It's the desert, SRP reservoirs are at capacity.
@terrygross7390
@terrygross7390 2 жыл бұрын
SWEET DEALS FOR OUR ENEMIES . HIGHER COSTS FOR ARIZONANS.WE HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND ITS OUR GOVERNMENT.
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
*REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT
@derrillyager7946
@derrillyager7946 2 жыл бұрын
Do not degrade our constitutional government, we have the best system, it is the people in the system that are effing it up. The supreme Court allowed massive money into government via their citizens united decision, with money comes corruption and bribery by the wealthy who want what they want. We must show them that our government cannot be bought by electing honorable people to represent us.
@tomaszwida
@tomaszwida 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksevert3099 thank you for fixing that
@Bigbert724
@Bigbert724 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksevert3099 Arizona voted blue in 2020 I fixed it
@hattielankford4775
@hattielankford4775 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bigbert724 Good first step.
@susanmazei1834
@susanmazei1834 2 жыл бұрын
It's literally insane to grow alfalfa in a desert state especially for export.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 2 жыл бұрын
Cotton and rice are also being grown. Arizona is quickly drying up. You ain't seen nuthin yet...
@billrosenstein
@billrosenstein 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you just love globalism
@tomaszwida
@tomaszwida 2 жыл бұрын
not insane if u get to rent a land for 1/6 of a market price and the water is virtually free. screw the community that live in there that the american way! on a serious note I read reports few years ago that in that area community wells "somehow" dried out...
@mountainloversoff-grid155
@mountainloversoff-grid155 2 жыл бұрын
No large scale farming should be allowed in the desert.
@andyjohnson3790
@andyjohnson3790 2 жыл бұрын
I heard about this about 5 years ago but very few actually cared because the drought had not reached 'critical levels' and people were mentioning the need for more business and money. Crazy how people only care about the environment when it's in immediate danger of affecting themselves at the moment
@drakemia4079
@drakemia4079 2 жыл бұрын
I agree like most things they better get over to renewables faster than ever or there money won’t matter
@CHMichael
@CHMichael 2 жыл бұрын
Back then the neighbors warned of their wells running dry. But this shows the general problem of farmers growing the worst crops.
@drakemia4079
@drakemia4079 2 жыл бұрын
@@CHMichael desalination using the sun .make salt battery’s
@shellydurunna
@shellydurunna 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@kennyw871
@kennyw871 2 жыл бұрын
As important as this news reporting is, it raises a very critical question: can we really allow the use of finite water resources to sustain cattle ranches and dairy farms just because Saudia Arabia can afford to drill large wells into aquifers? When the water runs out, they can afford to go somewhere else, but what are residents going to do, go somewhere else too? Not if you can't sell your home because of the water crisis. This should be considered a national crisis and demands immediate attention from our federal government at the highest level. If Saudia Arabia wants choice cuts of beef, let them raise the cattle in their own country and get the hell out of America.
@3BRH
@3BRH 2 жыл бұрын
Why you’re mad ? The Saudis did it by the laws not breaking it maybe you guys need to change it .
@domusloculi8073
@domusloculi8073 2 жыл бұрын
Government intervention is not needed. There the reason we're in this mess. Ducey allowed this to happen and we the voters messed up when we voted to sell our state trust land years back to fund failing schools and there still failing. Now that state trust land is being developed with more large living structures. They (the government) are promoting population growth in a desert.
@ottallman
@ottallman 2 жыл бұрын
​@@3BRH not fair game when republicans are in Saudi pockets.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 2 жыл бұрын
@@3BRH nobody is saying it's illegal. And the US has had plenty of unethical, terrible laws throughout its history. Along with people fighting to change them. It always happens too late though
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 2 жыл бұрын
@@domusloculi8073 the federal government promotes population growth by continuing the child tax credit. In reality, you should be taxed for having children
@JPBoston
@JPBoston 2 жыл бұрын
Has Ducey ever been forced to comment on this?
@bobralph5072
@bobralph5072 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in TN. This news should be alarming to all Americans, that our governments can pull off such a scam. If they want to raise crops on public land. The state should do it itself and keep the product at home. I'm sure there is a huge market for alfalfa hay in the American southwest. And the water implications are enormous. That whole deal is unbelievable.
@kedeglow2743
@kedeglow2743 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought on this was "Why would you grow a crop that needs constant large quantities of water in a desert?" Second thought, "Where's this alfalfa going?". I live in central Missouri. There is some Alfalfa grown around here, but not a lot compared to Timthy and Fescue, which is big because Fescue especially doesn't take a lot of water to grow. Likewise it doesn't have much nutritional value, which is why people buy so much feed. Our rains are inconsistant, and in the past 15 years it seems like we have more drought. Apparently the Saudis want the best for their animals. I'm guessing that somebody's getting full pockets in Arizona's state capitol.
@cbunix23
@cbunix23 2 жыл бұрын
The alfalfa is used as horse feed.
@nonimportant3505
@nonimportant3505 2 жыл бұрын
A Saudi prince rents that property and alfalfa grown and shipped to Europe in shipping containers.
@TJB-zt9tx
@TJB-zt9tx 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt some politician's campaign needed it's skids greased. Previous post; "Make them pay for water with oil." Absolutely!
@spiveydurango8391
@spiveydurango8391 2 жыл бұрын
Gallon of water for a gallon of crude
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiveydurango8391 a barrel of crude.
@spiveydurango8391
@spiveydurango8391 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurbrumagem3844 yeah I know what it is.
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiveydurango8391 I was just upping the price 😂
@spiveydurango8391
@spiveydurango8391 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurbrumagem3844 got it
@arizonaadventureriders9384
@arizonaadventureriders9384 2 жыл бұрын
People have been talking about the fields for years, now the public pressure is mounting
@arizonaadventureriders9384
@arizonaadventureriders9384 2 жыл бұрын
@@blondeunicorn3025 I love pistachios, and if sold local that’s a good use of local resources
@danmyshrall
@danmyshrall 2 жыл бұрын
The question is: Which politicians lined their pockets & how much $$$ did it take?
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
Republicans
@michaelcre8
@michaelcre8 2 жыл бұрын
We don't know how much they got bribed but the state land commissioner is corrupt and so are all the politicians who are responsible for keeping him honest.
@merrydaye4763
@merrydaye4763 2 жыл бұрын
So done with AZ allowing water guzzling businesses while we are in a drought. GOP deep thought at it's finest.
@saythankyou111
@saythankyou111 2 жыл бұрын
Water is more valuable then gold….see ya Saudi 👀🇺🇸
@tylermallory2504
@tylermallory2504 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Where do you buy your water? Because I'm pretty sure a shot glass full of H2O ain't worth a thousand bucks or more...
@itsmoshalawi
@itsmoshalawi 2 жыл бұрын
And oil is more valuable than life, grow up it's your capitalism at its finest.
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
Why are Republicans letting this happen? Are they the bad guys?
@gotwalk
@gotwalk 2 жыл бұрын
Great investigative journalism!!!
@zzkeithzz2
@zzkeithzz2 2 жыл бұрын
This is a major issue! not just for Phoenix I live in Cochise county and our well has gone dry for the 3rd time. We have a very similar issue with a company called Riverview. We have spent $26,000 on our well in the past 3 years and my home now has no water.. again. I'm real person who is really struggling just trying to have water for my family. I feel so frustrated when I see our government making these "sweet water deals" with foreign company's that are making millions while they suck the aquifer dry and me on the other hand born and raised in Arizona and a father of 2 working fulltime paying my taxes and trying to provide for my family, cant have water at my kitchen sink, or take a shower or a crap. How can this be right?
@tomaszwida
@tomaszwida 2 жыл бұрын
well u need to stop voting against your own interest, democracy is still strong in this country if u ignore ur civic duty and only 30% of population vote for your state electros this is what u get. research the candidate not make decision based who u saw the most in commercials, look them up their history their voting records the controversy, don't buy into this social crap hysteria economic policy should be focus with the focus on people who live in the area as a main priority, (NY state has different priorities then AZ has that should be the focus) and then make a decision. ur governor is Ducey he is ben in office for 10 years, what did he do in that tenure..
@mcelroychandler6267
@mcelroychandler6267 Жыл бұрын
Vote for the AMA , you might get some protections that way
@tomcooley3778
@tomcooley3778 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that we are being raped at the fuel pumps .
@angelaonthego
@angelaonthego 2 жыл бұрын
This is real reporting. THANK YOU
@kaydailey5816
@kaydailey5816 2 жыл бұрын
We the people need to kick out these tenants...if we are the landlord.. we should put a petition together to put an end to this!!
@counterculturevulture1917
@counterculturevulture1917 2 жыл бұрын
I'm down. How do we do that?
@TimeTheory2099
@TimeTheory2099 2 жыл бұрын
The Arab's obviously have a contract with state politicians. Find a way to brake the contract due to corruption charges.
@Favorite-catNip
@Favorite-catNip 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable. Especially now with water crisis looming.
@lovemoviesful2
@lovemoviesful2 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO, nothing will happen, you guys are all talked and Saudi have the overwhelming pocketing the people who are in charge. So nothing will happen.
@darrell_dee97
@darrell_dee97 2 жыл бұрын
Before you kick the tenants out the first thing you should be doing...or should I say stop doing is voting against your best interest.
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 2 жыл бұрын
This has been common knowledge for some years. The Saudi's use our precious water on our land to grow alfalfa, then ship it to Saudi Arabia. We are getting screwed right and left. Phoenix is a desert town in the middle of a water-less desert, & yet building is continuing. Who's getting the payoffs at our expense?
@user-gn5ne2fm6m
@user-gn5ne2fm6m 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@user-gn5ne2fm6m
@user-gn5ne2fm6m 2 жыл бұрын
A good step from Saudi Arabia 👍.. you have a large number of rivers, you do not suffer from a water problem, nothing will happen if Saudi Arabia takes a little of your groundwater..
@magicalhealerclairvoyant521
@magicalhealerclairvoyant521 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-gn5ne2fm6m troll
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-gn5ne2fm6m That was in the past. We no longer have excess water to give anyone. A great shortage. Saudi Arabia can find areas of the world where there is still a lot of water. That is not the desert of Arizona.
@v8stmpr
@v8stmpr 2 жыл бұрын
All the while, AZ is on top of one of the largest aquifers in USA...
@Herrera419
@Herrera419 2 жыл бұрын
Why give them a sweet deal they don’t give us deals on oil.. !!
@Deezbustednutz
@Deezbustednutz 2 жыл бұрын
Do a story on the Chinese govt land in Texas next. And nestle taking all the water from Floridians after that. Then the oil company’s claiming imminent domain on private land with the help of the state they’re in. Lots of cooperate greed goin on but we’re dumb enough to forget about it tomorrow, so no worries.
@donaldatkinson7937
@donaldatkinson7937 2 жыл бұрын
Nestles, doing the same thing in SC now also. This won't stop, until people quit with their silly desire for bottled water!
@dawnwokson8202
@dawnwokson8202 2 жыл бұрын
@@donaldatkinson7937 It's also happening in California
@willsweat1242
@willsweat1242 2 жыл бұрын
Nestle is in MI as well.
@ellenlandowski1659
@ellenlandowski1659 2 жыл бұрын
So...is that money laundering??? Why AZ that doesn't have water...why not MS AL or Louisianna that has lots of rain??
@alphaomega5909
@alphaomega5909 2 жыл бұрын
Seems your state, Arizona foolishly signed the contracts with Saudi Arabia. Perhaps MS,AL,etc had smarter ,more attention to detail in signing contracts selling their natural resources? I live in Michigan, home of the Great Lakes. We n the other states with Great Lakes borders are UP on this sh@#. We aren't letting other nations Cheaply n w/few regulations/reporting run off with our Water. That includes other states like AZ who've mismanaged their water resources going back DECADES N DECADES. Might want to elect better ,smarter folks?
@heidi22209
@heidi22209 2 жыл бұрын
Blame the weather... move into a desert and get thirsty
@JohnDoe-tx8eu
@JohnDoe-tx8eu 2 жыл бұрын
@@alphaomega5909 midwest is already sold out to local mega farms. Instead of draining the aquifer they're poisoning it with industrial animal farms.
@alphaomega5909
@alphaomega5909 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-tx8eu I'm well aware of our farming issues here in Michigan, lol. My large exended family ARE farmers, orchard owners. All over Antrim, Traverse county. Since early 1920s . But we are ON IT. It's not anything like AZ ,the West is suffering. Politically, weather wise n business wise. FYI, my own beloved wife of 63 yrs last month was the National Cherry Festival Queen ,early 1950s. (Traverse City.) I ACTUALLY married a Beauty Queen. 🥰
@richardmyers7847
@richardmyers7847 2 жыл бұрын
@@alphaomega5909 Detroit Michigan has a problem by poisoning the water supply in the black community
@harleyv1969
@harleyv1969 2 жыл бұрын
When AZ makes them stop then I will take water regs seriously
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
AZ is run by Republicans.. your whole state is dying a slow death. Good luck out there
@tomaszwida
@tomaszwida 2 жыл бұрын
first u have to stop voting against your own interests
@metalgearsolidsnake6978
@metalgearsolidsnake6978 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomaszwida meaning? who do you vote for?
@usamommy4446
@usamommy4446 2 жыл бұрын
Should charge foreigners more than double!! Then turn around and lower the price for US citizen farmers
@czrs85
@czrs85 2 жыл бұрын
Great report. I was unaware. Time to vote folks out.
@kellypbr7742
@kellypbr7742 2 жыл бұрын
It time to give politician in this country an attitude adjustment.
@-.-l
@-.-l 2 жыл бұрын
u mean john cena finishing move?
@novak.olen66
@novak.olen66 2 жыл бұрын
Don't give up on this story 12News ... you do ... we'll know why
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 2 жыл бұрын
How long is the lease for? I think AZ should put regulations/restrictions on ground water well consumption when it's obviously used for industry or agriculture, hotels and resorts etc. Just not for private homes.
@mazlosoutdooradventures8594
@mazlosoutdooradventures8594 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when there's no water for Phoenix that Saudi Arabian farming companies get water first The big drought is the intelligence level of management
@MCsRC777
@MCsRC777 2 жыл бұрын
I guarantee your land commissioner and your governor struck that deal up with them Saudi Arabian guys and they probably pocketed a bunch of cash under the table tried doing some hardcore research like looking at the two " PUBLIC SERVANTS" bank accounts at the time that deal was made , and family members I'll bet you you'll see a sudden rise in there income.
@Thomas63r2
@Thomas63r2 2 жыл бұрын
Greed will make people on the receiving end quiet. Sweetheart land lease deals, and the ability to pump an unlimited amount of water = someone got paid. Finding the money trail proof is tough. The silence of state leaders tells everyone that they were hoping no one would notice.
@victorydiaz11
@victorydiaz11 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. How funny 😆 quite
@Thomas63r2
@Thomas63r2 2 жыл бұрын
@Jason McDaniel Oh yeah, I forgot that only Democrats are saints sacrificing themselves for the greater good...not! There is plenty of payola on both sides of the political aisle. No matter how poor they were when entering the political arena - they all end up multi-millionaires after they have been in office for years. One of the things about American style politics that is surprising to people in other countries is just how open the U.S. is with lobbyists literally buying favors. How do you suppose politicians always seem to make such wise investments? - could it be they are carefully using inside information?
@mikeellis7286
@mikeellis7286 2 жыл бұрын
I remember someone saying we can't do that because we make money with them. That was just over a murder, not water.
@WRMRanch
@WRMRanch 2 жыл бұрын
Who was in office when they handed out those cheap leases - c'mon some real investigation please!
@jasonsabourin2275
@jasonsabourin2275 2 жыл бұрын
Do the Saudi's give us Sweetheart Deals on OIL......NO!
@saudkhalafful
@saudkhalafful 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely since 1930 American oil companies sucking oils at 25c a barrel from Saudi Arabia,, Duh
@branflakee4257
@branflakee4257 2 жыл бұрын
They did for WWI and WWII so it's good now, we can turn a blind eye on killing reporters, terrorists for 9/11, gas prices lol
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
Why would the Republicans do this? Unless they're the bad guys?
@notafed6524
@notafed6524 2 жыл бұрын
I want to evict the tenant if I’m the landlord
@JulesAZ1119
@JulesAZ1119 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile local farmers have had their water usage REDUCED affecting our local hay prices
@Lily1975
@Lily1975 2 жыл бұрын
I knew Ducey was no good… thank you 🙏🏼
@ghostdawg4690
@ghostdawg4690 2 жыл бұрын
@@libturdcrusher1776 a rino? Republican in name only. So in what other name is there?
@TheDudeInTheWild007
@TheDudeInTheWild007 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never liked Doug Douchy
@SG-js2qn
@SG-js2qn 2 жыл бұрын
He's a RINO. He ascended to the governor's seat only after getting in bed with China. Utah has a similar problem, as does GA, and to some degree TX. The Bush era (both Bushes) was one where the RINOs took over the party, and that's why people can't tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans. For instance, Bush 1 wanted to do NAFTA and other deals that destroyed American jobs. Clinton went ahead with these deals, as if the two parties were the same. It was Perot, the alternative Republican candidate, who was not a RINO, who wanted to preserve American jobs.
@mrlaw711
@mrlaw711 2 жыл бұрын
Never trust a man with that much hair dye unless they are a movie actor, and actually need it. Ducey is as bad as DeSantis, Abbott, and others - difference is he's not as quick on his feet, and far less intelligent.
@anomilumiimulimona2924
@anomilumiimulimona2924 2 жыл бұрын
@@SG-js2qn Perot started the reform party
@utube4greenfuture
@utube4greenfuture 2 жыл бұрын
So...Who's getting the kickbacks? Somebody is getting something! Unlimited water and 1/6 cost to lease. Who voted to approve this? Failed to mention that the alfalfa is shipped to Saudi for their horses.
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
Arizona is run by Republicans. Pretty obvious who got the bag
@michaelcre8
@michaelcre8 2 жыл бұрын
the state land commissioner
@JuanMoreno-oc5bx
@JuanMoreno-oc5bx 2 жыл бұрын
So this is part of the water problem we’re having in the western states
@rhondaarnesen6684
@rhondaarnesen6684 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing boggles my mind more than forcing a desert, water struggling land area, to grow crops. 😕 They could have rented land in Southern GA, in the Bread Basket, or some other location thats Not prone to droughts 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ Makes no sense other than corruption in the gooberment....
@beverlydiltz2604
@beverlydiltz2604 2 жыл бұрын
When did these leases come about. And who allowed this to happen. Do we have deals on land in Arabia? So the state allowed this. Our government needs to check more states and government laws.
@jjjj1670
@jjjj1670 2 жыл бұрын
Put a water meter up for that company.
@louisevad6091
@louisevad6091 2 жыл бұрын
Follow the money and you will have all your answers. What happens to the alfalfa that is grown? Do all the other farmers get the same deal?
@TimeTheory2099
@TimeTheory2099 2 жыл бұрын
Look for the money trail. Some politicians are getting sweetheart deal's of their own.
@dustynova171
@dustynova171 2 жыл бұрын
The North Saskatchewan River is more valuable as a water export then the oil sands.
@danthomas6587
@danthomas6587 2 жыл бұрын
Outrageous. They killed a journalist. Get them out of Arizona
@SA-is3rs
@SA-is3rs 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t wanna mess with us bro im telling u 🇸🇦
@saudalawini9651
@saudalawini9651 2 жыл бұрын
What about israel killed American Palestinian Christian journalist killed by israel
@danthomas6587
@danthomas6587 2 жыл бұрын
@@saudalawini9651 Isreal is the second biggest terrorist state in the world, only the USA is worse.
@user-gn5ne2fm6m
@user-gn5ne2fm6m 2 жыл бұрын
Stop crying, you killed a million Iraqis..
@itsmoshalawi
@itsmoshalawi 2 жыл бұрын
Dude... they killed one, the US army killed 15 in Iraq alone. Yeah that country the US unjustifiably invaded over imaginary WMD's. US's other ally Israel killed at least 45 since 2000!!! With American taxpayers money, you blind to those over one? Not justifying just wondering if all cases are equal in your POV or if its more like "it depends on who/where it happens"
@diankreczmer6595
@diankreczmer6595 2 жыл бұрын
Great reporting! Definitely an issue to be looked at as the governors campaign
@user-es3zh3jk5o
@user-es3zh3jk5o 2 жыл бұрын
This is rediculous. Citizens of Arizona should let it be known, this is not ok. Politicians are all about themselves, money and power. Follow the money.
@tomaszwida
@tomaszwida 2 жыл бұрын
well u did put them there, so u can take them out.
@michaellalanae7228
@michaellalanae7228 2 жыл бұрын
Free free free .unless your an American .
@bettiraige3474
@bettiraige3474 2 жыл бұрын
Let me guess which senator made money on this deal
@jeffreyyoung4104
@jeffreyyoung4104 2 жыл бұрын
And presidents...
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
Arizona is run by Republicans
@miketech79
@miketech79 2 жыл бұрын
Easily prevented by having part of the contract that any wells must be installed by the state and must be metered as a public utility from the state. Pretty simple! Big screw up on AZ! I don't even live in AZ and this makes me mad. I cannot imagine the folks living there.
@kristiblack1428
@kristiblack1428 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing Arizonian's all to well, they're singularly focused on blaming Californian's for EVERYTHING wrong with that extremely FU state and home of the Keating 5 Scandal!
@dougmoore7855
@dougmoore7855 2 жыл бұрын
Alfalfa takes 7 ft of H2O to grow but rice only takes 5 which is considered a water intensive crop. Who was bribed?
@CallingAllMadMen
@CallingAllMadMen 2 жыл бұрын
What a shame. Reap what you sow.
@heidi22209
@heidi22209 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! Why is a Saudi outpost in control of American water. I had no idea. Wtf.... I have to watch this again. Wtf!!! And whaaaA! Then feed the cows the food source from OUR Land. There is so much going on. I'm way north. Arizona....how did this get passed. Very good reporting. Seems like no one gaf? Until now?
@upcloseimage
@upcloseimage 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you for shedding light on this.
@vanessajazp6341
@vanessajazp6341 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely outrageous! Who the F* approved this insanity?!
@jeremywhiteley3021
@jeremywhiteley3021 2 жыл бұрын
This is so screwed up.
@salvadorgarcia4327
@salvadorgarcia4327 2 жыл бұрын
This same foreign Ag. Company for several years now has bought or leased farmland in the Palo Verde Valley, CA., about 35 miles west of Vicksburg. That Co.grows as much alfalfa as they can and need, 'while local longtime farmers standby and asked or forced to fallow prime farmland in order to sell off their Colorado River Water Allotmenrs......what the hell is going on here?
@nunzioification
@nunzioification 2 жыл бұрын
Government been selling us out for a while now, no accountability
@steven.h0629
@steven.h0629 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the Valley's local government.. that says it all.
@rjdverbeek
@rjdverbeek 2 жыл бұрын
Are there similar deals with other companies, domestic or international?
@racinford1
@racinford1 2 жыл бұрын
The Aquifer will collapse, ground will drop and NEVER refill . The same has happened in central California. We just dont learn.
@zippydo2678
@zippydo2678 2 жыл бұрын
We can guess how this sweet deal happened. Cash in the palms of those involved.
@johnaltobello5095
@johnaltobello5095 2 жыл бұрын
As usual the citizens get screwed.
@charlesurrea1451
@charlesurrea1451 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing happening in Cochise County. Mooo They have a 5 mile Square chunk that looks to support the Vicksburg Dairy. Relatively nothing in relation to already existing Ag operations. Though I must agree that cattle and open growing practices are HUGE users of water. Certainly there should been more oversight during the striking of this deal too.
@joefran619
@joefran619 2 жыл бұрын
What a great country we live in, for the rest of the World!
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 2 жыл бұрын
Why are the Republicans doing this? Unless they're the bad guys?
@joefran619
@joefran619 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksevert3099 backdoor deal , $$$$$$
@michaeltichonuk2176
@michaeltichonuk2176 2 жыл бұрын
China had sweet deals in Az too.
@nereyes15
@nereyes15 2 жыл бұрын
Lisa Atkins ,& Doug Ducey!!!!! Arizona demands Answers!!!!!!
@RKZX2
@RKZX2 2 жыл бұрын
i've also have been following the water situation in Lake Mead for a while. very alarming how fast the water level is dropping. the SW is not in good shape. we live in a 3rd world country carrying a Gucci bag.
@Dang3rMouSe
@Dang3rMouSe 2 жыл бұрын
This should be easy to solve as it's simply ensuring water metering on rented state land. It is not an isolated incident either. There are an insane amount of foreign countries including China that either own or rent US land in bizarre sweetheart deals.
@tomcooley3778
@tomcooley3778 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody check with the local feed store and ask how much a bale of hay will cost you?
@Somewhere-In-AZ
@Somewhere-In-AZ 2 жыл бұрын
All of this goes to Saudi Arabia. None stays here.
@tomcooley3778
@tomcooley3778 2 жыл бұрын
@@Somewhere-In-AZ I know .I was just saying. A bale of grass hay was 22 bucks at the feed store in Cave Creek just the other day.
@Kpots21
@Kpots21 2 жыл бұрын
Paid off
@enriquejaquez6993
@enriquejaquez6993 2 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous, how is this possible with the water crisis we have..
@rnp1785
@rnp1785 2 жыл бұрын
Now if everyone in Arizona was getting a $1000 monthly check than the people probably wouldn’t care if the Saudi’s were there or not.
@floridaviolets9601
@floridaviolets9601 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a rich republican politician just got richer.
@anomilumiimulimona2924
@anomilumiimulimona2924 2 жыл бұрын
A rich democrat masquerading as a republican just got richer.
@DesertRock1862
@DesertRock1862 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter what party there in, we need to get those responsible out. This is something that we can all agree with, the Saudi's have got to pay up or pack up.
@northbynorthwest5184
@northbynorthwest5184 2 жыл бұрын
@@anomilumiimulimona2924 I bet you believe it’s was really antifa at the capital on Jan 6th.
@waltervineyard5715
@waltervineyard5715 2 жыл бұрын
Alfalfa uses massive amounts of water.
@tylermallory2504
@tylermallory2504 2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't, I grow alfalfa in colorado on just a few inches of rain a year... your farms in california are the largest water consumers, like almonds... Those farms should absolutely be banned, but he water usage is absolutely insane for almonds.
@xxPlaceboxx
@xxPlaceboxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylermallory2504 Those almonds are sold for US markets. And California's agriculture has been established for much longer. This notion that CA has to seize operation for the growth of towns that have been established later is nonsense. When AZ themselves don't invest in better water recycling efforts.
@acf2802
@acf2802 2 жыл бұрын
Someone in the Arizona government is getting a sweetheart deal.
@Wyomingfarmer
@Wyomingfarmer 2 жыл бұрын
That land rent is ridiculous, should definitely be up close to $200 an acre. Now regardless of who is renting it, those reservoirs were primarily built for irrigation, the city should've also regulated water better for itself, the farmland has older water rights most likely.
@katmile5467
@katmile5467 2 жыл бұрын
Follow the money!
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