Inside Sweden’s copper mega-mine | DW News

[@guderian557]

'miles'? It is not the dark ages anymore, DW. Tell your reporters to use standard units of measurement.

[@Foersom_]

He probably meant Scandinavian miles, those are 10 km.

[@andrewturner8491]

Why do you consider miles as inferior?

[@Cerulean_Frost]

Probably not Scandinavian 'mil'. If this is the mine outside of Gällivare as I suspect I doubt it has more than 15km of conveyors.

[@Julian-mv5zi]

@@andrewturner8491because it is

[@jesse8600]

​@@Julian-mv5zithey are reporting to Americans mostly, the strongest military and economic power in the world. Imagine if this was meant for a weak country like russia, who has to dig trenches and build defenses when they invaded another country lol.

[@dhawthorne1634]

These diesel-electric with cont actors are pretty cool. When there is overhead power available, they run like a train, If they have to leave the grid for maintenance, to go around a lane blockage or to access remote locations, they switch on diesel generators like a WWII submarine. There's trials of this being done for big rigs on freeways.

[@SergeyPRKL]

Also, Dual mode buses are a thing. Trolleybus is over 100 year old tech, but before there have never been trolleybuses with diesel and electric in normal service. But now, last 20 years or so, there is some cities across the world who have taken them in use, Seattle had them in the 90's, so they can drive from suburbs with diesel, but when closing the city, connect to the overhead trolleybus cables.

[@bnkh]

@@SergeyPRKL Bergen, Norway has some in use today.

[@antonhelsgaun]

​@@SergeyPRKLand it exists on trains

[@SergeyPRKL]

@@bnkh yeah, i know. Been there last summer :) I'm a Finn!

[@michaelewen5498]

The driver also indicated in the video that if she's gone for a week it's difficult to know the transportation paths (presumably because the existing paths have been blasted/taken away). It sounds like a fantastic concept, especially on freeways ~ like a video Tom Scott made a few years ago. I don't understand how this could work economically in a dynamic environment like mining.

[@Ashadow700]

We're pretty fortunate that our mines are located in areas that have both large rivers and are quite sparsely populated, meaning there is less competition for the hydropower. If either of these were not the case, I don't think running the stone mill on green energy alone would be possible.

[@kronop8884]

Power generated is transmitted from sparsely populated areas by method of power lines to densely populated areas, Sweden has a national power grid. This also means that green energy can be generated anywhere, even abroad since the Swedish power grid is connected to continental Europe.

[@Mr0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0]

@@kronop8884 dock är det ca 3% energiförlust enbart i högspänningskablarna per 10 mil transport, så det blir snabbt dyrt att transportera mycket energi långt

[@debrickashaw9387]

was about to say this@@Mr0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0

[@lancewood1410]

Hypocrites.

[@debrickashaw9387]

what do you mean?@@lancewood1410

[@perfectlyroundcircle]

God damn, those trucks are absolutely massive.

[@drmodestoesq]

It's nice to see that the copper refiners are taking pride in the quality of their copper ingots. I'm sure Nanni would be pleased after his unpleasant dealings with Ea Nasir a few years ago.

[@raclark2730]

Ah ancient copper quality complaint reference. 😉

[@rayhans7887]

Ea Nasir that scammer

[@mait1995]

I was just there in that area tenting couple of days ago. Randomly watched this video and figured out that i am actually next to it. I went to have a peek at the quarry. Did not get too far but it is massive, surrounded by endless forests.

[@TemalCageman]

Well... that is a good thing, because trees do live on CO2 and they suck a lot of it up.

[@anuraudagedara3676]

Hats off to the sound strategies implemented by the company👏👏

[@cs2forlife]

They cause irreversible damage to nature. I hope that company goes bankrupt.

[@MarkPemble]

I like that waving is required

[@TheOnesAtTheBottom]

I don't know for certain but I am quite sure bus drivers here in Sweden do the same because I always used to see them wave at each other

[@hadochaddockson4290]

it's dark 9 out of the 12 months a year... waving is not required.

[@belsnickel9670]

@@TheOnesAtTheBottom nej det är ju för att busschaufförer känner varandra, om de kör i samma stad jobbar de för samma företag och är då kollegor, ofta vänner

[@umashankarmurugan2412]

I was wondering why the local tram drivers waving each others when crossing in Sweden. now understand the reason behind it.

[@Karlthuluu]

"Waving is required to see that you're awake and doing fine", I'm sure they were just greeting each other, just like busdrivers do when they pass each other

[@daneenmurf1043]

Compulsary waving sounds like one of those workplaces pranks, like sending a newbie for a glass hammer or a long weight

[@joakimbacke6473]

It is a requirement here it's to ensure that we see each other. Cuz we don't only met other trucks but cars and smaller vehicles. It's a way to ensure that we don't crush some one.😅

[@cristianluchian4907]

I have always admired Sweden, an industrialized country and a very civilized people

[@MrConquistador76]

Sit over thousands of years of systematized robery. But you liked.

[@Flummish777]

@@MrConquistador76 L

[@user-lb7rq1lu1n]

@@MrConquistador76 you should keep drinking whatever it is you are drinking because whatever it is you have left in your head is not worth keeping so be a good boy and kill the last if your tiny brain now! Thank you!!!

[@starvictory7079]

​@@MrConquistador76No.

[@axeldenvon]

​@@MrConquistador76huh? Explain yourself

[@bogdankorolevych2900]

I work there! As a heavy truck mechanic! We repair those trucks!

[@Johnsjoylife]

How is it like to be a mechanic of those heavy machines

[@bogdankorolevych2900]

@@Johnsjoylife Theres tons of challenges when repairing such big machines, but luckily we have heavy equipment for most jobs and usually everything goes well. The truck themselves are not to complex, most days we servicing, changing hydraulic hoses and doing other back logs. CAT 797 is even more impressive ,but sadly (luckily) we don’t have those here in Aitik mine

[@luciencitron3015]

Hey, Do you know how much money does a truck driver make ? What's the name of the company please ?

[@bogdankorolevych2900]

@@luciencitron3015 The company is called Boliden. I cant tell much about salaries as its something personal, but Im sure truck drivers are getting pretty decent salaries.

[@ericp758]

@luciencitron3015Im guessing around €3k per month. 1 week on, 1 week off. The company is Boliden and this is the mine of Aitik.

[@missthang4982]

That'a girl! 🤜💥🤛.... I'm a Miner and work in a nickel mine. I work 4600 ft underground. Lots of us females down there. Nice seeing a documentary that shows the female roles too. Sudbury, Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦✌️

[@mzee5533]

Good job miners greetings from the coal mines in the Rocky Mountains in Alberta

[@missthang4982]

@@mzee5533 😊👋 🤜💥🤛 The Highest of Fives 🙌

[@missthang4982]

@@mountainstream8351 I suppose it would be if you didn't like confined spaces. There's many comparable jobs on surface too, though. 😊 ✌️

[@Pubbehey1]

Yea, girls should not be scared to work in mines. We need equallity you know, you need to work as hard as men or harder to prove yourself. Its not easy, but it is possible if women is up for it. Its always a trade, trade of free time, trade of choices you do, And a lot more! Men might be more free to make these choices easier to have a career, if we talk about biological nature of men & women.

[@dementia_81]

What is the temperature at such a depth? I guess it is warmish?

[@marcinsarniak]

"Waving is required" has to be one of the funniest things I've heard in a while.

[@kirgan1000]

No its it's bloody serious, it confirm that both have seen each other, its even more important, then you mix heavy traffic and foot traffic. Sometime I do work on road construction on foot, and the dumper trucks wave and we wave back, and they drive past very careful. Unsafe driving will have them banned for life.

[@justkiddingmate4382]

For those wondering it's an probably an translation error and it's mil not mile. 1 mil is 10 km while 1 mile is 1,609 km and i could see that americans would think a mil is the same as mile but they are not in the same measuring system.

[@MrTurbo_]

Imagine trying to impress her with your souped up lifted pickup truck and she's like "Dude, i drive a truck with 3500hp which is the size of your house, get your puny toy car out of my way"

[@agw5425]

Makes me a little proud to be Swedish.

[@petter5721]

🇸🇪👍🏻

[@jesse8600]

Join us in NATO!!!

[@trollingpcgames]

@@jesse8600 we are trying. say that to russia's best friend turkey

[@Axcy]

@@trollingpcgames Everything has a cost. We in Sweden are sacrificing our mountains for a better world and we should be proud about that no one else is doing it like we are.

[@manyulgarprsch]

Why?

[@NewsKaAchaar]

Great project very well managed

[@georgeshelton6281]

It's a good thing that I properly inform you that I'm having these American highway workers who are also implanting these pennies into these asphalt streets. Not just throw their pennies out in the streets. That really ticks me off when they really do those things. Whatever happened to when the rich are supposed to support the poor? The case represents the real life "Beverly Hillbillies."

[@Peppanomaly]

@@georgeshelton6281 what are you on about bro

[@georgeshelton6281]

@@Peppanomaly I'm finding both OLD and NEW PENNYS that were being thrown out into the streets. Being abandoned. Some are being rescued too late. The new PENNYS don't say in God we trust anymore. It's true that I'm sometimes function like a homeless guy.

[@JambalayaJimmy]

Worked in big open pit mines in Labrador, Canada. Very similar operation to this.

[@galvinstanley3235]

Canada doesn't care about their own land,the tar pits and copper mines are poluting their lands and water.

[@tymz-r-achangin]

3:21 Next time give us an actual break down of the processes. So what chemicals are they using and how do they separate the copper from the other things it bonded to without hurting the cooper

[@svennoren9047]

When I studied chemical engineering in high school we went on a trip to this mine! The crushed ore is separated by froth flotation. Air is blown through a slurry of ore, and the copper sulfide particles are lifted by the air bubbles and can be skimmed off the surface. That's what's happening at 3:25 in the video. Chemicals used are foaming agents, similar to those used in schampoo. The enriched ore is transported to a smelter where it is heated and oxygen blown through the melt. This oxidises the sulfide to sulfur dioxide, and the raw copper metal can be poured off. The raw copper is then purified by electrolysis. The main problems with the whole process is catching and handling the sulfur dioxide, and the waste sand from the flotation process that still contains a small amount of copper. (The sulfur dioxide is converted to sulfuric acid, and widely used basic chemical).

[@gustafdahlman8704]

/Chinese mine executive

[@thovsland1]

Fun to see the dam from my hometown in Norway, being used as an example for hydroelectric plant :) Clearly a superior dam

[@IIAndersII]

Im from Denmark - and we secretly envy you for a lot of things :) including oil fields and cheap hydroelectric energy

[@vik6092]

That was a Swedish hydroelectric dam no?

[@fredrikcarlen3212]

@@vik6092 Nope. Think they just used stock footage while the script read something different.

[@getous]

I work there on occation. That electric ramp they are talking about, I haven't seen that been used a single time since we started working there in late February, they always have the pantograph lowered and run on diesel. But hey, sure nice to pat themselves on the back.

[@fredrikcarlen3212]

Obviously... They get tons of government subsidies for that sweet sweet renewable money, got to show the cameras they put it to good use...

[@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044]

Greenwashing

[@danielrodal9305]

Since you only work on occasion, how would you know if it's being used?

[@bjorngve]

They have some difficulties make it work, that's what I've heard.

[@MCFCTheMadHatter]

Dear DW News: The trucks in this mine do not transport 600t of rock per trip. No truck in the world currently can. Ultra class trucks can transport 360-410t depending on manufacturer configuration and the Cat 795’s (used in this mine) maxed payload just barely gets into the bottom of the ultra class group with a max payload of 372t.

[@f5kn114]

Belarusians have 450 ton. Diesel -electric Belaz truck.

[@skrame01]

I bet the trucks going down could generate power for the trucks going up by regenerative braking.

[@williamknows3908]

Yeah maybe, but wouldn’t they need big batteries aswell?

[@skrame01]

@@williamknows3908 Just use the overhead wires.

[@lassepeterson2740]

But the trucks going down are empty and the ones going up are loaded . It would have worked the other way around .

[@Thellbro]

The diesel electric ones use their electric engines to brake going down. So the energy isn’t lost, but like someone already said, it still wouldn’t provide enough power to propel them going up loaded.

[@skrame01]

@@Thellbro Is there a battery?

[@bostromberg4704]

I wrote my ph d thesis about dissolved metal contaminants from this mine affecting surronding ground and surface water the dissertation was in the spring 1997

[@misterpotato427]

How bad was it 😅

[@erikwibaeus3220]

The commentsection here is absolutly great. Cheers

[@martiniv8924]

I was lucky enough to go down the Ancient copper mine ‘Falu’ in Falun in Sweden, further south than this Mega pit Aitik 👌🏻😎

[@Taggez1]

My brother worked as a tour guide there haha

[@MidKnightKid98]

Can we just all agree how sick the beat is in the background?

[@Nicosshalagalanis]

I am born and raised in Sweden and I must say that swedish womens is really hardworkers and indenpendent !

[@seriousplayer1]

They really are but its very depending on the location, Norrland folk are the hardiest I would say but the south farmers are just a hardy. Cityfolk are getting lazier every year...

[@Nicosshalagalanis]

@@seriousplayer1 I am born and raised in Helsingborg near Malmö in southern SE. The text you write is 100 % correct beceause of all I read and hear .. 👌

[@j777barbasiewicz]

"swedish womens" - help!

[@anthonymcneill1465]

Impressive and interesting!

[@kukulroukul4698]

3:12 That STONE MILL is NOT ''the world's largest of its kind'' by NO MEANS !

[@crishhari5903]

It's western so it's a good mine. Mine from other parts of the world are bad mines.

[@Curt_Johnston]

Well one of the main issues with the mines in developing countries is their unsafe environment for their workers

[@Apjooz]

And political instability.

[@JigilJigil]

Did you even watch the video! they are doing in the safest way possible while make it as carbon free as they can, that's the difference.

[@soularzensei1754]

Truth.

[@pakde8002]

Because it's Western there are more regulations and it's not so easy to bypass regulations with corruption. So yes, you are correct.

[@actually_zer]

2:32 this exact moment makes it the most obvious how insanely large these machines are, i have been next to one of the "small" ones (the one in the bottom right corner) and already that felt really big. but seeing it compared to these other vehicles is insane

[@lucianocampos9817]

Amazing to see that in Sweden even a truck driver knows perfect English.

[@OskarXCI]

English is the second language. We teach it as early as second grade in school.

[@abijithp92]

In progressive country like Sweden both head of the state and truck driver is just a job. There is no need to say ' even a truck driver ' .

[@Danger_mouse]

1:45 Not well researched... Total weight is close to 600t, but the standard truck transports 370t of payload.

[@JigilJigil]

One day I'll buy one of those caterpillar trucks.

[@soberman1520]

For what

[@azumishimizu1880]

Thats pointless. Buy shares in Caterpillar! But a truck? Seems like a waste of money too me.

[@claesmansson9070]

Just fill it up with pop corn and start film.

[@KonradParzymieso]

4:07 best background music

[@michaelewen5498]

The clip that end with the dump truck connected to a Pantograph is cool, but I don't understand how that's a viable approach with mining. The video also states that if drivers go on vacation for a week they have difficulty finding their way around (presumably because their existing path was blasted/taken away). Is it expected that there's a separate dedicated team creating/maintaining overhead electric lines?

[@chamamemestre]

01:47 600 tonnes? That can't be right, the 797F max is 400...

[@mzee5533]

The reporter did not do his research at all. He’s talking about the shovel as an excavator and sometimes runs with electric yet that machine is fully electric driven

[@SpencerHHO]

I wonder if that is gross weight ? It's GVM is about 620 metric tonnes. A few other issues here too, I'm pretty sure it's 4000 HP traction power too.

[@MyFolkrace]

The digger fills them with 3-4 buckets so around 280 -320 tonnes.

[@m8pwa_]

The newer one Komatsu are bigger than the Cats. Taking a load of +400 tonnes.

[@Thellbro]

@@m8pwa_the 980? I don’t know how much the CAT 797 (the largest CAT) can take in payload, but I think it’s +400 tons.

[@al-hn7fc]

2:15 Isn't the Bagger 288 bigger? Or is not considered as an "excavator"?

[@robinpope894]

The hydroelectric plant shown at 4:20 is located near Lillehammer in Norway! Google, Hunderfossen dam..

[@abro528]

I'm still trying to figure out how Dwayne Johnson ends up in the worlds largest stone mills...

[@DavidHuber63]

I love you for the effort you make to help our home ✌🏼

[@madPav3L]

1:45 get your facts right... 797F load capacity = 363 tonnes (metric tonnes), truck weight 260 tonnes, total about 623 tonnes The biggest trucks in the world are 400-tonne trucks, so 600 tonnes would be a huge improvement...

[@PunchySugar]

Was looking for this comment

[@NYlocked]

To call a copper mine green would be a lie, sure reduce the diesel etc helps but the trucks still need lubricated oil and alot of it, not metioning the tires, the dust, the water ... mining will never be green and should never be mentioned in same sentence but ofc its very good they take serious steps reducing the pollution of this kind of industry.

[@daheikkinen]

Those trucks are crazy

[@Foersom_]

Yes they are large, but there are even larger ones from Belaz.

[@FredrikGranlundkayaker]

When I grew up, we had to get a couple of weeks of job experience in school. I got two weeks in the laboratory at Rönnskärsverken where Boliden make the final products, e.g. copper, lead, zink, gold and silver. I got to analyse the metal concentrates from Aitik and Boliden's other mines in various ways.

[@joergarms1]

Very interesting. Must be great to drive a machine that big.

[@bigty5474]

bro the mine is located in Kiruna, i let you look up where it is in Sweden and you'll see that even if you drive the biggest machine it's probably the worst place to live. There's nothing there and when i say nothing it's nothing

[@RegulareoldNorseBoy]

@@bigty5474 hounestly sound nice. love being alone

[@Sneaadler]

@@bigty5474 There is a town with stores, bars and stuff. 23k people live there.

[@bigty5474]

@@Sneaadler most of them are miners, season workers or rich people that can afford a 2nd house. Appart from that the cultural life is pretty much 0 and you can't go anywhere else than the town itself. Just pure nature and nothing thousand of kilometers around you

[@janbananberg357]

@@bigty5474 It's in Gällivare. Right next to Kiruna. LKAB is the second mine there and they are also present in Kiruna.

[@virgiesipat8630]

To those who didnt know..these trucks are driven by electric motors....Its combustion engine functions only as a power generator which supplies power to the dynamo that drives the truck..

[@andrewrees8749]

No truck can carry 600 tons, max capacity is 400 tons

[@kirgan1000]

Is it in metric ton? short ton? long ton?

[@andrewrees8749]

@kirgan1000 u.s Ton , metric tonne is 1000Kg which is heavier I guess

[@studentstudent5044]

Best country in the world😎❤️🇸🇪

[@moos5221]

Green copper is a funny term, since copper turns green on the surface (patina) after many years of oxidation.

[@greggreg2263]

Very impressive mine🙌

[@kukulroukul4698]

and VERY very little powders in the air AROUND those mills !!! In romania the visibility is 1meter around a stone mill and the dust is 5 centimeters thick EVERYWHERE in that room :D

[@kukulroukul4698]

Its an EXCEPTIONALLY clean room for a stone mill there

[@EmiliaAlvarezNordström]

Boliden is responsible for dumping toxic waste in Chile during Pinochets dictatorship in the 1980's to bypass Swedish environmental regulations, and they are responsible for an ecological disaster in Spain in 1998. I hope they will be more responsible for their waste - from start to finish - in the future.

[@seymourbutzzz]

Typically Swedish companies... Add Atlas Copco (mining engineering equipment assisting in the theft of natural resources in SA and elsewhere), Ericsson (5G telecom), ABB (electrification and robotics), AstraZeneca, Lundin Oil, Lundin Gold, and the list goes on... bribes, bypassing regulations, etc...

[@waynewallace2061]

How much gold is produced as a by product annually?

[@nenasiek]

13 000 kilos a year, we also salvage 5000 kilos from old tech stuff a year

[@Thellbro]

From this mine it’s about 2300 kg/year.

[@pukid]

It was funny to hear them say "our product has a very low carbon footprint" and then "now it's time to put enough diesel in here to heat a house for a year"

[@dallysinghson5569]

Perhaps they meant in a relativistic kind of way.... those trucks are shifting thousands of tonnes of rock for months or years but a house just stays still....

[@thelloydersvk5068]

"Very low carbon footprint" ≠ no carbon footprint

[@Desertsol1]

Very nice, but how do they deal with the biters?

[@alvaroludolf]

Yeah.. the green copper sludge is green...

[@peterp4037]

Being the epicenter of the agenda has its advantages.

[@BobiR-bl9fc]

Awesome, I m in Munich, Germany and I wish to find someone for traveling to Sweden too🌲

[@Bizzishot]

You are welcome

[@erikandersson2129]

You should visit the Kiruna mine, it’s even cooler

[@pkgoeswild]

​@@erikandersson2129 Yeah it's quite majestic to see the walls of stone surrounding the city.

[@goldrush5764]

As a swede I'm very proud of my country! I recently saw a documentary about some country in Africa. There you had criminal gangs running the mining industry. They mined coal and could not get off it. It was like an addiction. The dictator and the regime took all the money and allowed these criminal gangs to roam free because of rampant corruption. You had many murders every day, polluted air, poverty, so many different problems. Never understood that it was that bad in Africa until I saw this documentary. That's also why I'm proud of my country, beeing one of the strongest democracy's in the world. Our mining industry is run by proffesionals, not criminal murderous gangs. This is the big reason for our effiecient and prosperous economy! Thanks Sweden for letting me have many opportunities and a nice life growing up here.. ;) And dear fellow swedes! We always have to protect our strong democratic values, remember that!

[@andersgerebo1949]

We will soon have gangs doing it here to.

[@harukrentz435]

Are you talking about the same sweden a country notorius of gangs problem?

[@goldrush5764]

@@harukrentz435 I never said we don't have gang problems, I said that criminal gangs don't run our mines. We have low corruption and an honest police force that don't take bribes. We don't let criminal gangs run our economy. Sure we have criminals like every other country, but that criminal activity is very limited to a few areas, like the drug trade for example. In other countries with high corruption the criminals are involved in almost all sectors. That's not the case in Sweden as you can see.

[@MonoToof]

@@goldrush5764 liar

[@goldrush5764]

@@MonoToof Was that the best you could do bot?

[@masonstump1579]

A ton of the info is wrong

[@morganmadison366]

They learn such good English. We can't even teach many of American kids basic skills.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

the average swede might be better at using their/there/they're correctly than the average american. and they certainly are less likely to confuse "have" with "of". 🤦

[@morganmadison366]

@@Ass_of_Amalek A school taught language is always a bit different than native speakers, because schools teach perfect language. I could argue all day long with Germans from Berlin that ch is not pronounced like in English.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

@@morganmadison366 that's called a regional dialect, and those don't replace words with wrong other words that have a totally different meaning/function just because they sound the same or allegedly similar. using the word "whom" wrong also does not become correct just because 90% of native english speakers are incapable of identifying object and subject of a sentence, and to which of those the "who[m]" refers (they otherwise don't have to due to how grammarless the english language is), nor does the plural form of greek loanwords become a correct singular just because most english speakers don't know the singular, like phenomenon or criterion. the worst one, in its severity and how common it is for whatever absolutely bizarre and embarrassing reason, is the "of" instead of "have". if it were up to me, I'd make that one a criminal offense.

[@Zezam_]

Im curious what you mean with ”of” instead of ”have” can you give an example?

[@starvictory7079]

​@@Zezam_The poster means "would've" written like "would of". I disagree about the word "whom" though. Languages change.

[@johansmith4764]

I love my country! I love Sweden!

[@dissaid]

Very cool! 😎

[@kingofthend]

hmm this seems wrong. You are supposed to mine for copper at around Y=40

[@elgiganten6154]

Long love Sweden

[@japphan]

0:20 Can it be done in an environmentally friendly way? So, you are actually asking whether you can rip a giant whole in the landscape in an environmentally friendly way?

[@gill__y7685]

Mine Reclamation ensures that after all the material is mined out that and the land is restored.

[@japphan]

@@gill__y7685 Utter nonsense. In successful cases it ensures that some amount of the damage is remedied. Some. The land is not "restored", and even if it was done perfectly, the damage done will last. Migratory patterns will have been disrupted, and will take centuries (or more likely millenia) for that to be remedied. And with animals not moving through the area in the way they did, the eco-system is not the same. Not only in the actual area, but through a wide area around it. I have never heard of a mine that even considers to fix the damage they did to the landscape 100km away from the mine. And I haven't even mentioned the toxic waste left behind in the soil, the groundwater disruptions and much more. Most mines, even with reclamation efforts, continue to damage surroundings indefinetely.

[@gill__y7685]

​@@japphan Your initial comment was utter nonsense and sounded like you were assuming that they just dig a big hole in the ground and leave. Mines are essential to our modern way of life since the industrial revolution and are necessary. Ecosystems that existed before the construction of the mine site are mapped also "Migratory patterns will have been disrupted, and will take centuries (or more likely millenia) for that to be remedied" is such a bold assumption based on current research and progressive reclamation results, it is expected that native vegetation (besides trees) will be reestablished within a first few years of restoration activities, creating habitat for wildlife for which they will be placed and reintroduced. "the toxic waste left behind in the soil, the groundwater disruptions and much more." The till and toplayer of soil is displaced for the time being and it is restored. I would like to add that most mines have environmental monitoring over the course of 100 years post closure to ensure the best possible restoration of the affected area.

[@japphan]

​@@gill__y7685 My initial comment assumed nothing of the sort. It assumed you rip a giant hole in the ground. I am fully aware of the benefits of mining. That is why I am a proponent of it, even though it is never environmentally friendly. It can be extremely harmful, or in model cases, only severely harmful. The Boliden mine is a great example where the benefits weighs up for the severe damages done. "it is expected that native vegetation (besides trees) will be reestablished within a first few years of restoration activities" Native vegetation will be reestablished very quickly, that is correct. How long does it take for _all_ native vegetation to reappear? Let me illustrate the difficulty at hand: An acquintance of mine have been part of a team that discovered 20-ish previously unknown species of dandelion, in an area a few times bigger than the one affected by this particular mine. Who will make sure the species yet unknown to science will return to the area? " I would like to add that most mines have environmental monitoring over the course of 100 years post closure to ensure the best possible restoration of the affected area." Thank you for making my point. Nothing that requires 100 years of post closure monitoring is environmentally friendly.

[@علي-ش7ث8ب]

*The environment is not only about CO2 emissions.*

[@johnDukemaster]

True!

[@flemch6136]

2:25 the teeth makes it look like it's scooping with a jaw which is pretty metal.

[@nosegrindv4951]

lovely, the equitable exploitation of natural resources brings prosperity and robust livelihood to us all. We can only solve our environmental problems by advancing through them, not by strangling the progress of civilization.

[@aliminingcompany]

Copper is always different, changing percentage from time to time, we do tunnel mining here in Pakistan! Salute to the miners from a miner of Pakistan! ❤❤

[@pmr1049]

As a Swed im just amazed didnt knew about all this updates :)

[@erikedlund2904]

U are probably are like most swedes that live in the south that calls 2/3 of Sweden as "the north" without knowing anything about it

[@pmr1049]

@@erikedlund2904 to be honest i dont care if its in southern part, middle part, north, east or west aslong as it has to do with innovations in engineering or tech its always good. So has nothing to do with geographic at all but nice to see what you values 😉

[@Ashuowl]

@@erikedlund2904 As someone from this far up north. Anything south of Piteå is the south for me. The ignorance goes both ways lol

[@kevin-sw8fe]

Anyrhing above skåne is north for me

[@MiROi555]

Pretty sure they dont transport 600tons per trip, more like 350-400ton for thos haulers.

[@dabay200]

what about waste products and water usage?

[@Robin-my2gz]

100 Percent of it is cleaned. And water usage is not a problem here.

[@zaryadnik]

check the numbers. there are 2 electric motors on truck. for sure its less than 600tonnes per ride, will be around 300

[@nxo91]

Good planning and strategies

[@PMMagro]

My uncle worked In Aitik and we got to visit (several of the cousins) many years ago :)

[@Desperate4Freedom.]

And?

[@ovidiuciuparu6421]

6:25 lol that is the greatest lie! 😂😂😂

[@ukraine_tbic]

Diesel electric is a nightmare! Good luck

[@peterterrell1712]

How can you say that one truck can carry 600 tons of rock? If you're that wrong, how can we trust the rest of the stats?

[@linuslundin7868]

80-90 miles of road and stretches 4 kilometers from north to south. The deepest part of the mine is now at the 1600 meter level.😮

[@doctorprocter4225]

You don't even have to have a driver's license to drive those trucks in Canada. People who work at the mines, get dui's all the time. They lose their license, but not their job. Plus a bus takes them to and from work. But you have to have grace 12 or GED. I don't think that's a legal requirement, more likely company policy

[@Theorimlig]

I wouldn't want someone who can't keep their license on any driving job. If you DUI you're irresponsible.

[@lubricustheslippery5028]

There is no buss line to the mine in the Video. You have to drive to it from any habitable house. And the closest village is removed to make space for the mine.

[@mzee5533]

Next time it’s better to use a reporter who understands what he/she’s talking about. The machine loading those trucks is a shovel fultime electric drive it’s not an excavator.

[@СаидбекСафаров-з7ы]

Салом аз Тоҷикистон❤❤❤❤❤❤.

[@eobet]

This was an ad, right? This was sponsored as a fluff piece for Boliden? I mean, not a single critical question. Not a single piece of data from anyone independent. How much money did you get for this video?

[@xavierjames8085]

That’s how we open up mines ? By blowing up the ground , never new that . And is copper mining like gold mining (I know it’s a dumb question) like the copper isn’t being found like copper bricks? , are we finding like little copper nuggets ? Or is copper in the rocks and you have to process the rocks? Sorry for the dumb question

[@technoviking9999]

I'm from Finland and it's funny how Finnish their accent sounds like. :)

[@svennoren9047]

Aitik is in Tornedalen, a finnish speaking part of Sweden.

[@rojavabashur6455]

No its not@@svennoren9047

[@anul6801]

@@rojavabashur6455 yes it is. Liar. But Sweden government has tried to erase the Kven people.

[@SillyPillow]

@@svennoren9047 I wouldn't call it "Finnish speaking", but our dialects are certainly influenced by our close neighbours. Sure, my grandparents speak/spoke fluent Finnish, but they're part Finns, so it makes sense haha! Lots of people around there have no Finnish ancestry, to my knowledge. Certainly met plenty who don't know a word of Finnish. Born and raised in Gällivare (or Jällivaara :D) but moved out of there a few years ago. It used to be a really nice place.

[@svennoren9047]

@@Ashuowl Point taken, you are right.

[@DevinHeida]

I surprised they don't have cables for when they go down into the pit. Use reverse regenerative braking and could likely repower the "grid" due to the sheer amount of braking necessary to get to the bottom.

[@TheYoutubeMethod]

Sounds to complicated for a mine. You would need poles in permanent places which in mining there are no permanent places as all will get mined eventually.

[@DevinHeida]

@@TheKZbinMethod yeah the only other method I could see is a "discharge station" but likely wouldn't work, like you said will get mined as well as the company not wanting "down time" whilst discharging.

[@JIJO333]

Viva Sweden!

[@Bowiiihowdy]

Those trucks do not haul 600 tones. They haul 360 at max

[@Coole-ee1vg]

It's 600 tons including the driver...

[@teacatsup]

Waving isn't required, it's a courtesy we usually do here in Sweden. No matter the work place.

[@AntonGermanReal]

Japp

[@Np7138-m6w]

I was in Sewell, Chile...that place is crazy

[@Nubbe999]

Meanwhile, children in Africa are digging deep holes with their hands to find the minerals in our cars and phones.

[@Merecir]

Sweden is working on fixing the laws to we can start mining that stuff in Sweden as well. So in a while those African children will be without a job.

[@nyakinyuan1005]

@DW do you have a comparison of Swiss mining in Sweden and Swiss mining in the Congo? It appears there's a huge disparity on environmental effects especially water pollution and low crop produce.

[@tiouip]

Green? is this promo a joke?

[@andrewthacker114]

Interesting clip, thanks for sharing.

[@FourthandFoles]

Amazing!

[@blkmoon5596]

They have haul truck that are electric and driven remotely using GPS now

[@Thellbro]

Not electric, but diesel electric

[@peterp4037]

So if other countries do the same it's not good but if sweden does it, it's green?.

[@DanielNyberg7]

yes🇸🇪

[@spruceg00se]

All their energy comes from the dam… so the largest environmental issue with this type of mining is negated. There’s still lots of waste chemicals and damage to landscape but that’s the same for all countries.

[@JigilJigil]

OK you made this comment under another name, we get it, we assume there are too many of you and you are not a bot.

[@sukhi_3]

Exactly

[@raclark2730]

@@spruceg00se landscape can be revegetated. Even open cut mines.

[@burzheru]

that "nearby" hydroelectric powerplant that you show a video of is not even CLOSE to this mine... its not even in the same country. its in norway.. and its called "hunderfossen".. which is in Lillehammer.

[@coole6825]

Becourse its Norge it can't be close??? Check the map....

[@hnorrstrom]

​@@coole6825Lillehammer is not close to Gällivare. In fact it's extremely far apart. Like 1000km or so. Gällivare is not even close to the Norwegian border

[@Lurigalinken]

I dont know about the video, but there are several hydroelectric powerplants not far way from Aitik I think Porjus might be the closest, about 60km away. But there are several powerplants in that river.

[@tomaszzap9574]

It is not quite true. This copper mine haye have zero carbon foot print, but still it remains a huge burden for environment. Think about all these chemicals which are used to extract copper from stone. And the quantity of ground removed. Falling ground waters..

[@gamlerik1]

..and making our comments possible.

[@DanielSilva-jj2lz]

no, the product used to concentrate the copper in the blenders is called turpentine, and it is a product extracted from pine trees, the sulfuric acid used is used until it is neutralized into sulfates, which is then buried, rest assured.

[@nenasiek]

True but nothing is, not even animals or trees are 'net zero.' Its better to think of it as balance

[@Cptnbond]

There will always be an impact with mining, but you can strive to minimize the environmental loading. Some countries does not care. Well done Boliden.

[@JigilJigil]

Enlighten us and tell us how they should do it, it seems you know some ways that they can mine that are not burden for the environment!? please share!?

[@aurelmatthews4164]

5:20 7,000 litres of diesel to fill up the fuel tank? That would cost 155,500 Swedish crowns. About 10,500 dollars to fully fuel that vehicle.

[@vukulampsa]

You missed a 0... 155.000 / 14000

[@aurelmatthews4164]

@@vukulampsa lol thanks man I fixed it