Inside the Betting Life: Horses - Raw or Die Ep5: Bob Baffert Interview on Justify & Hard Questions

In this interview offered up by the Bafferts, we discuss his top horses Justify, Arrogate, and American Pharoah plus his views on drug testing. I asked the question to the public in another episode "is Justify using performance-enhancing drugs" and Bob Baffert addresses this and many other topics on the minds of horseplayers.

[@lorrainewaters6189]

This is just such a satisfying interview! Bob Baffert has been my idol for years, and to hear him actually get comfortable enough to share his views and memories of his training career is just wonderful. I was full on with American Pharoah. I watched all the post-race press conferences for the Triple Crown races. Such a collection of high quality people who loved horse racing and loved American Pharoah: the Zayats, Justin and Ahmed, Bob,with his son, and. Victor Espinoza. Those were enchanted weeks. Thanks, Bob, for doing this.

[@ElsElbows]

Los Alamitos gave him the opportunity to take the Leap of Faith to the next level. His Records will Not be broken in The Sport of Kings. Top 5 Horseman of All Time.

[@pops8623]

Awesome interview

[@mjc2556]

G.O.A.T. Baffert. What a man. What a human being! This interview, his patience, forgiveness is why he is the greatest of all time.

[@OHRaceFan]

Great interview and hats off to Bob for giving you 50 minutes of his time. He's the face of horse racing in this country and his accomplishments are legendary. His approach to training has obtained superior results year after year but his eye for quality and ability to read a horse and develop to their potential means that he is certainly in the GOAT discussion for his craft. Congratulations to team Baffert and wish all of them continued success.

[@angel_emc341]

GOAT of doping. That’s a blatant fact.

[@elizabethferguson7002]

What do you think today?, 3 years later 36 positives. If he's the face of horseracing(?) We're screwed.

[@crasherdanny388]

I have ran into bob at the sales and at the races. Always a down to earth guy

[@kevinthecarrot1448]

down to earth cheater

[@crasherdanny388]

Conors Pass lol

[@christihalliday5370]

Love him. Would love to meet him.

[@jayzbroski4197]

Christian, I think the fact that Bob & Jill welcomed you to their stable for an interview speaks volumes. Only a person who has nothing to hide does that. On the contrary, he could have his attorney look into slander charges for allegations that Justify was juiced. When you are the best trainer in the world, you get the richest owners and the best racing stock. Plain and simple. Good horses make good trainers but only the best trainers can win the triple crown (twice). If you want to help the industry, please investigate the the individual state's procedures for drug testing, etc. For instance, do you know if all of the runners in the triple crown races are tested before and after the races? I know procedures vary from state to state, but I think the betting public has a right to know that the game is being played on a level field. Thanks, Jay

[@goodvibes1854]

They were extremely forthcoming about everything and I appreciated their invitation to address a topic that is on the minds of many horseplayers. All I did was ask the question is it possible? After speaking firsthand to Bob and to other individuals in the industry in charge of drug testing, I find it extremely difficult to be the case. More interviews to come.

[@garialmarsh6721]

Your so dam nieve!...go drink some milk and go to bed. This is the oldest trick the book. The murdered showed up at the victims funeral crying tears. And I'm the federal agent watching the show.

[@JeffRebornNow]

@@goodvibes1854 Christian, in light of recent happenings, do you still find it 'extremely difficult' to believe that drugging happens constantly even in the upper echelons of the sport????

[@JeffRebornNow]

@@goodvibes1854 Oh, and after you conducted this interview, we find out that Justify was drugged for the Santa Anita Derby and the stewards covered it up. It turns my stomach, dude.

[@JeffRebornNow]

@@goodvibes1854 Oh and now we see that Charlatan was drugged for the Arkansas Derby and will more than likely be stripped of the purse money (unless the Arkansas racing association is as crooked as the California board is, where the director had horses in training with Baffert for God's sake).

[@walterbrooken1722]

This.man is the truth when it comes through Breads he's my guy Best wishes Bob Baffert can't wait to see you Back in the game ❤

[@michaelzeisler2257]

Absolutely fantastic interview thank you very much

[@garlanddavis7099]

Those horses r kin to The Great Secretariat! All r Awesome! Fantastic Trainer!

[@christihalliday5370]

I'd give anything to meet Bob, he's my hero.

[@deanosborne6854]

You know I don't care what they say about Bob . Why because he was at the top nowhere to go but down and some of the people that are in the office are ? He knows how to train a horse to get to that level

[@deanosborne6854]

I believe Bob was the stepping stone for HISA

[@RafaelMartinez-vm8ez]

Good interview.

[@antr7493]

such hard hitting questions. journalism is alive and well. I wonder if this guy got paid to conduct this interview?

[@garialmarsh6721]

So much for tuff questions

[@michaeladams2077]

They were not, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times. Instead of the failed drug test causing a speedy disqualification, the California Horse Racing Board took more than a month to confirm the results. Then, instead of filing a public complaint as it usually does, the board made a series of decisions behind closed doors as it moved to drop the case and lighten the penalty for any horse found to have the banned substance that Justify tested positive for in its system.

[@lorrainewaters6189]

Kitten's Joy was a very successful turf stud, remember.

[@qhtv1664]

I wish you had more questions about how others that have been caught cheated he was coming off like nobody cheats in horse racing. He came from qh where cheating is very prevelant and he made it seem like it was a clean sport while he dominated it. You could've asked about clenbuterol which has steroidal properties and is legal in cali and when combined with other drugs is very powerful effects. You didnt mention like you did on your previous video about the statistics and how you said he mathematically too good.

[@christihalliday5370]

You can't expect Baffert to throw others under the bus. He could be sued for slander. No need to ask how others get caught.

[@thewitt530]

They send Servis horses to Baffert LOL!! We all know who's got the super juice!

[@mjc2556]

Nah. Servis is different than Navarro. SGF-1000 was basically a multivitamin snake oil - it did nothing and was marketed like a Whole Foods supplement.

[@danbarrett6113]

Super good and honest interview, I only wished you would have asked Bob, how does he feel regarding all the Justify trolls that say he was over rated as soon as he was retired instead of going into his 4 yr old season.

[@parkeobrien7526]

In the 2019 season l Won't be shocked in slightest if Bob wins the Triple Crown in fact I expect it.. It about as sure a thing as the Patriots will have home field advantage in the playoffs

[@michleb708]

Juicetify was allowed to run in The Derby- that’s where big money will get you in a Coorupt Sport.

[@lorrainewaters6189]

Abel Tasman!!! Yes!! I remember her!

[@parkeobrien7526]

There is no way Arrogate doesn't finish in the top 3 in the San Diego handicap... If he ran backwards blindfolded he should have at least finished show... Smith never even put out the slightest effort to have Arrogate run that day... Same thing happened to Abel Tazman this year.... I don't who but somebody made a fortune betting against those two

[@mikerelva6915]

There horse, man. Not race cars. Ever been around a horse? A plastic bag will scare them so much that it is equal to us seeing a grizzly bear in the wild. Arrogate shipped to Dubai and had a hard schedule. So many horses bounce after that trip. Smith saw the horse wasn’t firing and was worried he may have been hurt so did not whip on him. That wasn’t the Arrogate we know and many times horses aren’t the same after that Middle East ship. Arrogate also didn’t like Del Mar.

[@monikerone3203]

This didn’t age well considering many of his horses tested positive for PED’s in 2019 lol

[@monikerone3203]

@John Coppers any drug that improves a horses’ performance during a race is PED. That includes lidocaine and Scopolomine. For horses that is. Get real. You must be a liberal hippie.

[@mikerelva6915]

None of his horses tested for PED’s. What are you talking about? Pletcher has 6 fails the past year but NYRA was covering them up. ALL trainers encounter these contamination and overage issues. PEDs is something wildly different. I actually think it is smart to do it like they used to and cover up stuff that is contamination as the public can’t differentiate between Tylenol contamination and hardcore doping.

[@roytschaefer3518]

Still relevant today

[@anthonyconte2475]

These horse are beast dude ain't no schNaguns going on

[@parkeobrien7526]

The key to winning big races is schmoozing owners with deep pockets and they buy the fastest and best bred horses... Next you stand with owner watch the horse run around the circle and they win... Nothing more complicated than ordering a Big Mac at McDonald's

[@gregorygordon7858]

People say that he's cheating,because they have common sense...

[@gregorygordon7858]

@John CoppersThe conversation is about Baffert. If it was about Brown, Pletcher,Asmussen, Cox, Miller, and more i would say the same thing about them.

[@fullpack4666]

This is fucking hilarious. I'm with you... the numbers never lie... for someone to win at such a higher percentage than other trainers. It's not rocket science. To say that hes a better horseman than everyone else is laughable and truly a slap in the face to other good trainers. For him to sit here and lie to your face about Justify and then for him to fail a test is just hilarious. To be honest should it be a stretch for horse players to be able to get there money back if a trainer breaks the rules ?? Horse players make this business.. we should have more horse players demanding their money back if they lose their money and a horse fails a test! I've read charts that the footnotes read the winner was DQ'd for a failed test... the horse didnt recieve the winning purse money and was still a maiden afterwords! How many horse players lost money on that race because someone CHEATED?Notice the rambling about from Bob talking about non sense shit that doesnt matter... all the little details to keep you listening... just talking about random shit to say he talked to you but hes just telling stories! Classic liar. Hall of fame trainer no doubt but there should be an asterisk beside his name for sure.

[@fullpack4666]

If you fail a test for anything that horse shouldn't be able to run for a year! Why? Because you broke the rules and that horse has had an advantage training!

[@cecilegibbs3539]

It couldn’t be the better picking the wrong horse🤷‍♀️😂

[@FoolishPrankster]

Baffert cools down this degenerate by providing some honest insight. AND HEY ! GET TO A MEETING !(period)

[@ziskokid1]

Ice....thats the secret people.

[@pattiwinn5217]

I like trainers who don’t juice their Horses

[@craigconley1872]

Bet his horse's..has the best juice in the sport

[@parkeobrien7526]

Justify or Pharaoh were not injured they were to valuable in the breeding shed to ever race again

[@jimmason2080]

7 Members of the California Board have ownership in Baffert's Horses---What a Joke!!!!!

[@garialmarsh6721]

No disgruntle bettor here.... I bet baffert horses . After all I want to make money and beleive me baffert and pletcher are using P.E.D.S. and they are protected by the powers that be. ..This sport is too dam hard depends so much on luck for this guy to dominate the way he has.

[@drewrockwell8000]

Wrong on Baffert but pletcher definitely does

[@TenGreenRangers]

Every human endeavor includes an element of imperfection, flaws, mistakes.. Drug testing is no different. It is not a perfect process. With that in mind.. blood samples should be sufficient enough to undergo a 2nd testing procedure if you get a positive... and the animal tested should be allowed a 2nd draw of blood to provide to prove it is clean. This would eliminate issues of a testing agent mixing up a handful of samples they had to work on .. or a tainted test kit... or a tainted batch of test kits. If your process doesn't allow for insuring yourself against human error and bad test kits ... You're not providing a Professional or Fair testing service. A single sample.. and single result type of prodecure "pretends" the process will be error/mistake free.. ALWAYS... and that is never the case... that is not a fair way to do drug testing. Employers and Governing bodies are OFTEN unprofessional in their drug testing procedures.. not providing for the % of inaccurate results that will always occur.

[@joechrow8341]

Are you guys listening?...ArroGATE not ArroGIT....Some of the Analysts LOVE to pronounce the horses name as ArroGIT for no reason at all except to try and sound COOL and SMART in some weird way as if THEY know the REAL way to pronounce it...It is and always has been ArroGATE....WHY would it seem COOL to pronounce a horses name wrong?...Weirdos

[@parkeobrien7526]

Dortmund didn't have a snowballs chance in hell to win... I'm sure Bob told jock don't let Dortmund win.. All Bob cared about was Pharaoh.. That is why Kalem Shah pulled his horses from Bob

[@michleb708]

Why don’t you ask Bob what kind of juice his vet is supplying? He has single handedly destroyed California Racing. Bob The Butcher Baffert should be up on animal cruelty charges. Hey, Reporter hack- Why don’t you try one of his poppyseed muffins. I would like to be there when this guy meets his maker.

[@parkeobrien7526]

If you train at Penn National and train 1000 dollar horses I will guarantee you that you won't win the triple crown... It is that simple

[@bobbymadera3234]

BUT he STILL BEAT YOU AND the REST OF BAD TRAINERS OVER THERE IN THAT HALF MILE OF pennational BOB BARFFET IS THE BEST TRAINER EVER STEP IN EARTH 🌎 HE PROVE THAT ALREADY THE ONLY THINK YOU GOT TO DO IS TAKE YOUR HAT OFF EVERYTIME YOU SEE MR BOB BARFFET PERIOD NOT QUESTIONS AND PLEASE WIN A RACE

[@parkeobrien7526]

@@bobbymadera3234 ... Bob has a glaring weakness that Brad Cox doesn't. Bob Baffert is one of the worst all time with turf horses. He is the master of the triple crown series.

[@ziskokid1]

@@parkeobrien7526 Kentucky derby is a dirt race. Thats what he is about. He doesn't get turf horses.

[@user-pu5tu5ju7l]

AS A PUNTER THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS NOT WHAT TO BET ON. ITS WHEN TO BET ON IT THAT MATTERS. IF YOU CAN PUNT ONE HORSE A YEAR THAT IS ENOUGH. IF YOU ARE PLAYING DAILY THEN YOU ARE DOOMED!