Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Christie M1931

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The Chieftain

The Chieftain

Жыл бұрын

The first of the Army's Christie-type tanks, which they put a lot of effort into testing in the 1930s, came in two designations: Convertible Medium Tank T3, and Convertible Combat Car T1. This is one of those two vehicles, though in fairness, we're not quite sure which. After editing, I'm mostly leaning to the idea of this being a T3 which was converted to have the machineguns in the same manner as the T1, which seems to be unreported in the books, mainly due to the period photograph at 24:55 which, if so, simply did not have the machinegun mounted at the time.
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@michaelmanning5379
@michaelmanning5379 Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness the Chieftain is doing these videos, otherwise, with Fort Lee being off limits to civilians, we muggles would never get to see these treasures.
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 Жыл бұрын
Exactly right.
@jballew2239
@jballew2239 Жыл бұрын
I forget if this was one of the tanks on the old Patton Museum "petting zoo", but at least it has some form of corrosion control applied. I remember the ones at the Museum (in the 70's) being in less than optimal condition. That being said, there should be some form of public access, considering we did , and are paying for them.
@handlesarekindadumb
@handlesarekindadumb Жыл бұрын
THE JEWELS
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon Жыл бұрын
@@jballew2239 It was better when I was there in the late '80s, at least the part of the collection that was indoors.
@cmdredstrakerofshado1159
@cmdredstrakerofshado1159 Жыл бұрын
Well it's a lot easier because he is still in the US Army reserves or National Guard I forget which one.
@chief5861
@chief5861 Жыл бұрын
I must say, your audio equipment has improved drastically. This video sounds better than the last Inside the Hatch.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch Жыл бұрын
It was filmed it’s the same old equipment.Since I have gone shopping, I have not filmed anything, so I’m just releasing what I had recorded with the old stuff. Some vehicles came out better than others.
@handlesarekindadumb
@handlesarekindadumb Жыл бұрын
placebo is a hell of a drug
@TheHarvHR
@TheHarvHR Жыл бұрын
I dunno man, there definitely were some audio issues with the last few ones and I think if you couldn't notice them then you must be partially deaf. This one has seemed to escape those tech issues though
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch Жыл бұрын
@@TheHarvHR This one got lucky, as it were. I didn't screw up the gain, and I wasn't using the wireless mikes which have been causing trouble of late.
@Skarry
@Skarry Жыл бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch boom or separate lav?
@heikkiremes5661
@heikkiremes5661 Жыл бұрын
Medieval knights had sloped armor, castles and fortresses had angled walls.
@SMGJohn
@SMGJohn Ай бұрын
Jesus had a sloped nose
@HappyDuude
@HappyDuude Жыл бұрын
"The armor is so pointy, you can use it to bayonet people" - games workshop designers: "write that down, write that down!'
@AkosJaccik
@AkosJaccik Жыл бұрын
10:00 - Regarding the issue of surface grip when in wheeled configuration, I couldn't help but imagine a tyre burnout-start with a Christie Tank. A very unique way of smoke generation.
@nilo9456
@nilo9456 Жыл бұрын
I finally understand the Christy suspension well enough to see why it's considered a dead end, so thank you for showing the springs and spring towers, I could not understand the written descriptions. I was aware of some of the different issues U.S. Army had with Christy's design concepts, usually these are depicted as a great loss due to the Army's lack of foresight. Your presentation help me to understand that situation was based on careful consideration. It appears that what happened is that Christy wasn't willing to accept that his ideas needed to be altered to meet the Army's requirements.
@robertillston2350
@robertillston2350 Жыл бұрын
If the length of the 50. and the length of the 37mm were so close, would it have been possible that Christie used the same ammo bin?
@derkaiser9881
@derkaiser9881 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. It's not a bad idea if they work equally well for both types of rounds.
@hpoelies
@hpoelies Жыл бұрын
@@derkaiser9881 'Specially if you wouldn't get another beltholder in using the slimmer messaurements.
@Elmarby
@Elmarby Жыл бұрын
I cannot find any solid data on the 37x94mm with a quick google. So, 3.7 inches but that is just the casing length. Some more quick Googling suggests the projectiles typically add about 60-70% or more to the casing length. But hard to say what exact shell the US was using as everyone and their granny was running some flavour of 37x94mmR. Very rough maths but even assuming the protruding part of projectile is only half the length of the casing you exceed the 5.45 inches of of both bin and the .50 cartridge. So I am leaning towards a .50cal bin. -edit- Looks like the US shell might have been 6.566 inches. Considerably longer then the bin.
@quentintin1
@quentintin1 Жыл бұрын
@@Elmarby the 37x94 used by the US was generally similar to that used by the French since the US had adopted the short Mle 1916 Puteaux infantry gun and that was what eventually mounted in the M1917 light tank the cartridge length for that gun was between 160mm and 180mm (6.29 to 7.08 in) from what i can find, depending on the specific shell type wikipedia gives a max cartridge length of 138mm (5.45 in) for .50 BMG, so the bins are quite probably for a .50 in addition to that, the wikipedia page for the 37mm M1916 shows a photo of said gun in a tank mount, and it is pretty clear the mount is very different to the one seen in the tank (afaik the US never adopted the semi-automatic gun the french had developed for the FT) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_d%27Infanterie_de_37_mod%C3%A8le_1916_TRP#/media/File:37-mm_M1916_gun_in_a_tank_mount.jpg finally, the 37mm fed with single cartridges fed by hand in the breech in the french tanks, the 37mm ammo was stored vertically in racks, shell pointing down; and they were delivered in crates, no belt ever seen or mentioned forum.pages14-18.com/viewtopic.php?t=52826
@-Seeker-
@-Seeker- Жыл бұрын
@@Elmarby "37x94mm... so 3.7 inches" I might be too drunk, but how did you get that conversion?
@robertmontgomery8310
@robertmontgomery8310 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. They should have the tracks on one side and wheels on the other for contrast and comparison.
@walteredwards544
@walteredwards544 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've been looking for years to find something on this vehicle that went in depth.
@gregsmall5939
@gregsmall5939 Жыл бұрын
That’s the way it was displayed indoors at Aberdeen
@murmaider2
@murmaider2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for getting us in where we usually wouldn't be able to.
@libertycosworth8675
@libertycosworth8675 Жыл бұрын
Cool video Nick! Really enjoyed your discussion at the end about whether this was originally equipped with the 37mm or the M2 .50 caliber.
@okrajoe
@okrajoe Жыл бұрын
That tank in the opening scene looks like a perfectly weathered scale model!
@nobodyuknow4911
@nobodyuknow4911 Жыл бұрын
To further support Chieftan on sloped armor predating the T-34, sloped armor was being used routinely by the Confederate military in the U.S. on their iron-clads as well as in the Crimean War in the artillery/mortar barges. Sloped armor was known, and understood far further back than modern history revisionists would have you believe, it was always a matter of the practicality of its use.
@CycahhaCepreebha
@CycahhaCepreebha Жыл бұрын
Leonardo da Vinci’s “tank” also had it.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 Жыл бұрын
Plate armour, for humans, is mostly slopes.
@nobodyuknow4911
@nobodyuknow4911 Жыл бұрын
@@CycahhaCepreebha Indeed it was in the design, however, it also never went beyond a drawing in its day.
@nobodyuknow4911
@nobodyuknow4911 Жыл бұрын
@@julianshepherd2038 Most definitely, however practical experience with angles and deflection of broadhead vs bodkin point arrows wasn't really scientifically studied or implemented. Add to that, the production technology of the time was basically how good and consistently a blacksmith could make sheet metal, shape it, and it not be fatigued by it.
@CycahhaCepreebha
@CycahhaCepreebha Жыл бұрын
@@nobodyuknow4911 The point is that the concept of deflecting projectiles with sloped armour plates was evidently already well understood. There are elements of this in the trace italienne as well, the term "glacis" originates in the raised ramps leading up to the encircling ditch, which would deflect cannonballs fired at the lower wall upward, so they would hit the less vulnerable earthwork there instead, or to even miss the fortress entirely.
@janslavik5284
@janslavik5284 Жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate the Christie suspension!
@iamt_tl
@iamt_tl Жыл бұрын
My man of culture here
@MagosMirka
@MagosMirka Жыл бұрын
~Säkkijärven polka intensifies~
@jeremywells9019
@jeremywells9019 Жыл бұрын
It was pure genius and totally under-rated.
@laurisikio
@laurisikio Жыл бұрын
@@MagosMirka you must be a man of culture as well
@isleofthecheetah
@isleofthecheetah Жыл бұрын
I too indulge in Christie suspension lore.
@dmcarpenter2470
@dmcarpenter2470 Жыл бұрын
The end of vid piece, looking at the .50/37 racks is great. Reminds me of a couple of instances on BB-55 "What is that?" "Never seen that before." "Waaaaiitttt a minute. Stand by one..." Headscratching and chin rubbing commences, as we dove into the weeds.
@seanmalloy7249
@seanmalloy7249 Жыл бұрын
The driving roadwheel being on a pivot arm sleeved to the rear 'sprocket' axle is a necessary feature to ensure that the distance between the driving road wheel and the 'sprocket' remains constant, which keeps the tank from throwing the drive chain when in wheel mode. When in motion, the rear of the road wheel and the front of the 'sprocket' wheel are moving in opposite directions, which means that one or the other would be trying to fling any rock that tries to jam itself between away from the gap. That said, a sufficiently big rock, too big to be dislodged in this manner, would still jam the two wheels, and a greater separation would be better. However, this would make the lever arm for the driving road wheel longer, requiring a larger spring to get the same suspension response, and I suspect Christie simply ran out of room while trying to keep the size, and therefore weight, of the vehicle down to something even loosely approximating the Army's requirements, and he just accepted the tradeoff.
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 Жыл бұрын
A genus pushing blindly into the unknown.
@waynehiggins16
@waynehiggins16 Жыл бұрын
It makes you wonder what the ideal tank would be at any time, pre ww2 and after ww1.
@nilo9456
@nilo9456 Жыл бұрын
I suspect you will find that very much depends on who you ask. As has been mentioned by this channel, a tank is only one part of a system with many interlocking parts. A person's perception of the role tanks play in this system will vary widely on circumstances.
@JohnDoe-vm5rb
@JohnDoe-vm5rb Жыл бұрын
As the cheiftain out it; the best tank in the world is (for Israel) the merkeva, because it does everything they wanted the tank to do. For, say, Japan or Russia, the merkeva is probably terrible
@colbeausabre8842
@colbeausabre8842 Жыл бұрын
Given the available technology, the old joke applied - "You can have firepower, protection and mobility - pick any two", So if you wanted a fast cavalry tank you went with mobility and firepower, while if you needed an infantry support vehicle, you chose armor and firepower. It wasn't until the current generation with advent of engines well north of 1000 hp (1500 hp in the Abrams) that you could have all three. And even then, is the M1 ideal for Central America Indochina?
@jballew2239
@jballew2239 Жыл бұрын
The earlier M1921 .50" did mount differently than the later M2 (ANM2, etc) having a large diameter pin bore on an extension that protruded fore of the receiver.
@adamskinner5868
@adamskinner5868 Жыл бұрын
As much as I appreciate getting to see this amazing piece of armored history and having it all explained to me in that great Chieftain fashion I do have to mention the camera work. In the explanations about how the steering mechanism worked and latter how power was sent to the wheels, I couldn't see the parts being explained because of the camera angle and wheels etc being in the way. This was a bit confusing when it came to the drive mechanism. A minor complaint overall but changing the angle so we could see what was being talked about would have been a great improvement. That's not to say it wasn't a good vid on an important tank that I had no idea still existed and I certainly appreciate being able to see and learn about it, so cheers from down under ;).
@Jake9066
@Jake9066 Жыл бұрын
There's some pictures of bastion forts from the sixteenth century to prove his point on "we've known about sloped armor forever".
@emm4rmstrong
@emm4rmstrong Жыл бұрын
Breastplates were sloped and deflected arrows. They even included a pronounced 'v' on the chest to correct for a shot trap that would deflect arrows from the chest towards the neck.
@robertmartin6800
@robertmartin6800 Жыл бұрын
I love these old Christie tanks and their derivatives. He didn't design them to be really fast on accident or to suit any particular technical or doctrinal need in military service, especially not on behalf of the Americans or the Soviets, he just made them fast because he knew that it'd be cool for an armored fighting vehicle to move so quickly. And it is cool.
@MrJoe99998
@MrJoe99998 Жыл бұрын
Is there perhaps a chance this tank is a Chimera? With a body of a Converible Combat Car T1 (Thus having the .50 boxes in the hull) with the Turret of a Convertible Medium Tank T3 (Thus resulting in the mounting for the short 37mm)? The date of acquisition on the document at 32:51 says 1945, so perhaps the tanks where already stored outside for some time and they just combined the best looking turret with the best looking chassis from the lot that was rusting out somewhere?
@Shaun_Jones
@Shaun_Jones Жыл бұрын
Those huge track links must have made an ungodly racket at speed.
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad that Chieftain has the great opportunity visit the very interesting convertible Christie M1932. Probably the fastest tank ever produced. The Christie suspension, not adopted by the US Army, apparently because of it's cost and very difficult character of Christie himself was adopted by the Brits in quite a few AFV and in particular by the Russians resulting in the formidabile T-34 despite knowing the limitations. As always a very interesting video on a tank I never have seen. Good job again 👍👍👍👍
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch Жыл бұрын
It was more the problem that the Christies didn't meet US requirements as well as other options. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnKzlHisqtWon6M
@justforever96
@justforever96 Жыл бұрын
If you can define it as a tank when it is not on tracks. Modern tanks will do 50mph or better on tracks, with 70 time if armor. And they do that routinely in service, I am sure they did even better in testing.
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 Жыл бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch thanks for replying and I saw the link that you sent that somehow I missed 2 years ago. It really explains a lot. Found it very interesting!
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 Жыл бұрын
@@justforever96 I don't really agree with you because the AFV vehicles on wheels despite being good are too top heavy, extremely expensive, and will never have have a good off road capability especially in very muddy conditions.
@airbats801
@airbats801 Жыл бұрын
You put out the best tank videos on youtube. It's always a absolute joy when I see a new video pop up. Thanks for your hard work!
@unity3938
@unity3938 Жыл бұрын
Given the age of the vehicle I wouldn't discount it originally being a T1 that adopted the turret of a T3 either through the loss of its own to age/rust or the great military storage system!
@ravenbarsrepairs5594
@ravenbarsrepairs5594 Жыл бұрын
Looking at the condition inside, I'd guess this was a display pieced together out of a number of different vehicles.
@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham Жыл бұрын
Ha, my thought exactly! Posted something similar, sorry I missed your comment.
@unity3938
@unity3938 Жыл бұрын
@@kirkmooneyham y'all good friend it's a pretty obvious answer to the problem.
@AndrewSmithThomas
@AndrewSmithThomas Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining why the non-toothed drive wheel died with the T34. I've been asking folks at Bovington about this and could never get an answer.
@gaborgredely1848
@gaborgredely1848 Жыл бұрын
Az oroszok által sokat szidott USA adta ezt a tankot neik. Még a T 55 nél is ezt a l fogas ánc feszìtő szerkezetet hsználják.
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 Жыл бұрын
I wish that these little museum exhibits would be open to the public
@Lance-Urbanian-MNB
@Lance-Urbanian-MNB Жыл бұрын
Love these old finds. Very good mechanical detailing as always.
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters Жыл бұрын
Been hoping you'd cover this one for a long time. Brilliant video (as always)
@JessWLStuart
@JessWLStuart Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I've found this tank to be the most interesting USAA tank, and it's awesome one still survives!
@mikewysko2268
@mikewysko2268 Жыл бұрын
Well presented history lesson. Well done Sir!
@markr2616
@markr2616 Жыл бұрын
The OG sports tank!
@PanzerWeeb3305
@PanzerWeeb3305 Жыл бұрын
19:22 Chieftain: "ok". Don't know why, but that delivery had me dying.
@SkeletonXin
@SkeletonXin Жыл бұрын
Great video as always!
@andreperrault5393
@andreperrault5393 Жыл бұрын
I remember Scale Modeler Magazine, in one of the 1980’s edition, had an article on Scratchbuilding a Christie M1931 armed with a 37mm gun. This is great seeing the Chieftain discussing am actual vehicle and history around this vehicle. A great video, thanks
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh Жыл бұрын
Cheers Chief. Great vid as ever.
@drmarkintexas-400
@drmarkintexas-400 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🇺🇲✌️🤗🙏
@MililaniJag
@MililaniJag Жыл бұрын
Christie tanks always fascinated me. The what could have been! Cheers!
@chazcon5133
@chazcon5133 Жыл бұрын
lovely video on the famous Christie. Military history buff since childhood. Served in the US Army - 11B Infantry, not armor, no apologies :) Thank you for all you do, your videos are very entertaining and enjoyable.
@Hunter12396
@Hunter12396 Жыл бұрын
Tornado has always been armed with a 37mm in every photo I've seen of it, except for the modern photos of it in museums. It seems more likely to me that it was a museum botch job where they stuck a .50 cal in the hole where the cannon goes. As for the ammunition, the 37mm Browning T9 they planned to upgrade these to was definitely belt-fed, but that was never installed. I don't know if the original short 37mm was belt-fed or not, probably not.
@barongorn
@barongorn Жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstand what Chieftain was getting at. The belt for the short 37's would be for Storage, not as part of the feed system. Think of it as a big bandolier
@animal16365
@animal16365 Жыл бұрын
Looks like it's a hybrid of both. Depending upon its armourment equipped. It could be used as a infantry support tank against machine gun nest or after a artillery barrage. It could speed behind enemy lines and run around causing chaos and doing some scouting. But who knows
@kmoecub
@kmoecub Жыл бұрын
the road configuration was intended to get it to the next battle at the same speed as the trucks that were carrying the infantry.
@victormiranda9163
@victormiranda9163 11 ай бұрын
I have the opinion that what made the Christie suspension system tank so important is that it is the first tank that did not have an agricultural basis for track and largely non existent suspension. The Soviet t34 and German Panther are examples of what I consider modified Christie suspensions
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting Video. Fascinating Tank.
@flyingfalcon8999
@flyingfalcon8999 Жыл бұрын
"Gotta respect the Christie suspension."
@mikewysko2268
@mikewysko2268 Жыл бұрын
So many interesting items in the background.
@matthewanderson9754
@matthewanderson9754 Жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna lie, the tracks are the weirdest looking things I've ever seen... lol
@AFriendlyUnit
@AFriendlyUnit Жыл бұрын
fun fact: Soviet union use it as BT's tank another fact: even without track it still can move
@WRMonger1
@WRMonger1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been binge watching your videos and I’m now to the point where if you said that this combat car was an M1 Abrams I’d believe you. What I’m saying is that your knowledge of these vehicles is so vast that I’d take what you say over pretty much anyone else. Keep up the good work, your videos are extremely detailed. You provide information that has even you questioning your own assumptions and for an expert to call into question their own knowledge - not as if you have gaps in your data but that there’s overlapping historical content - means that you know a lot about your subject matter.
@DeliveryMcGee
@DeliveryMcGee Жыл бұрын
The ammo stowage reminds me of my 18E Vietnam veteran father's reaction on seeing the first of the movies with Sly Stallone toting an M60 -- "Those belts come in a bag that clips to the side of the gun!"
@russwoodward8251
@russwoodward8251 Жыл бұрын
This is great. Thanks!
@TheCreative01e
@TheCreative01e Жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of the BT tanks, and seeing what is essentially (I know it’s not technically part of the series, but let me dream alright) the earliest BT available is cool as hell. It’s an awesome piece of history and I’m so glad you were able to get your grubby hands on it for a video.
@edwardk779
@edwardk779 Жыл бұрын
I had a tour of the APG museum facilities before it closed. I was taken to a warehouse whose main function was to store samples of American and foreign ammo. But that building also had a T34, an M3 halftrack and the Christie tank. At that time the Christie seemed to be in excellent condition. The docent also took me into the paint booth where the disassembled Elephant was sitting while being painted.
@danparent1333
@danparent1333 Жыл бұрын
AUDIO IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
@frogman7073
@frogman7073 Жыл бұрын
Just got to see this tank at fort lee (gregg-adams) and it was cool seeing after this video!
@TheWalterKurtz
@TheWalterKurtz Жыл бұрын
One should always take a tape measure with one when one goes crawling around in an old tank.
@simoncampbell-smith6745
@simoncampbell-smith6745 Жыл бұрын
Formula 1 Racing tank! Complete with go faster pointy nose. On a more serious note, great to see another video on Inter-War tanks, their design and thoughts. Nice one Mr Chieftain sir
@Bomag1600s
@Bomag1600s Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this Thank you :)
@captianmorgan7627
@captianmorgan7627 Жыл бұрын
We've had suspensions on tracked vehicles for nigh on a century at this point. I wish someone would tell the skid/track loader manufacturing companies about it. My butt would be very appreciative.
@C0MMAND3R_ZER0
@C0MMAND3R_ZER0 Жыл бұрын
Oh no! The tank is on fire!
@anselmdanker9519
@anselmdanker9519 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very cramped.😃
@CAP198462
@CAP198462 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an interesting video colonel. By the way, apparently there were cloth “cartridge belts,” for the 37mm. forgotten weapons has a photo showing a gun team using one that holds 16 rounds.
@Wolvenworks
@Wolvenworks Жыл бұрын
Sauce?
@ferrinkatz6796
@ferrinkatz6796 Жыл бұрын
@@Wolvenworks i0.wp.com/www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/m1916-37mm-tripod-2.jpg
@KevinSmith-ys3mh
@KevinSmith-ys3mh Жыл бұрын
@@Wolvenworks I'll take the Romesco, extra parmesan please!
@jagervonweebs610
@jagervonweebs610 Жыл бұрын
looks like you need to start carrying random dummy rounds, when you visit wierd old tanks! great video as always 6
@nanorider426
@nanorider426 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for the video. ^^
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune Жыл бұрын
Quite the speed demon!
@iwhbyd2683
@iwhbyd2683 Жыл бұрын
20:29 insert futurama hermes “that just raises further questions!” Gif
@cynicalfox190
@cynicalfox190 Жыл бұрын
Interesting investigation at the end there
@CobraDBlade
@CobraDBlade Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Chieftain needs to start carrying around an Emotional Support Inert Caliber 50 round.
@Karmag555
@Karmag555 11 күн бұрын
3:15 "The armor on this is so pointy you could use it to bayonet people!" Those red stains near the point suddenly look a lot more suspicious...
@robertharris7027
@robertharris7027 Жыл бұрын
Climbing out was a nice view. I would have liked to see you climb in.
@lutherburgsvik6849
@lutherburgsvik6849 Жыл бұрын
KZbin auto captions never fails to amuse: 15:10 "It's actually a relatively large one man turd"
@zebradun7407
@zebradun7407 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@stevengrotte2987
@stevengrotte2987 Жыл бұрын
14:42 the turret makes me think of the USS MONITOR of civil war fame.
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U Жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@frankgulla2335
@frankgulla2335 Жыл бұрын
Terrific tour of an M1931, whatever T it is
@charlie15627
@charlie15627 Жыл бұрын
Letterman is an awesome tool to have around. 👍 Get the WAVE model, its the best.
@lewiswestfall2687
@lewiswestfall2687 Жыл бұрын
thanks
@JimWarford1
@JimWarford1 Жыл бұрын
Great video Nick! Is the plan to show more of the collection at Fort Lee?
@jsplicer9
@jsplicer9 Жыл бұрын
17:15 that I-Go tank really catches my eye
@The_Viscount
@The_Viscount Жыл бұрын
People knew about sloped armor when they were building Ironclad warships in the US, UK and France in the 1850's and 1860s. People understood sloping all the way back to 1600's with fortress defenses. The walls of Renaissance forts were protected by a dugout in front of them where allied infantry could take cover in front of the walls. This dugout commonly had a wall in front of the soldier that was protected by earth sloped so as to bounce artillery shells that hit it up and over the walls. The side facing the fortress was designed so that soldiers on the wall could fire into the dugout so as to deprive an advancing enemy protection. They understood sloping protection when building Renaissance castles! The soviets didn't invent it!
@johnf8064
@johnf8064 Жыл бұрын
Your back! 👍
@wacojones8062
@wacojones8062 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the wrong turret on a Cavalry Combat Car. An aside are there any US M41 light tanks left to poke around in. I visited one back in 1972 on a demo range at Fort Belvoir 14 miles south of DC. It was damaged but the inside was accessible on a no activity weekend when I visited it very near to where the T28 was found on the night vision range. Also, down at Stump neck annex part of the Indian Head Naval ordnance station there was a Martan Mauler Hidden off in the woods. On main post there was a F105b and a F11.
@patrickcronin6829
@patrickcronin6829 Жыл бұрын
Happy Thanksgiving!
@od1452
@od1452 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have been waiting for this video. Do you think that is the original paint? It does display the same markings of photos but....? The "new" mantlet would seem to indicate not original paint. I read the length of links was too long and later ( Like BT series) track links were shortened. Do you think that is true? I always wanted a model of this tank .. LOL Owning an original is unthinkable. . Thanks for covering this tank. !
@nicolatesla9429
@nicolatesla9429 Жыл бұрын
The thing I've been wondering by these Christie tanks is when they drive around on their tires, is if the number 1 axle does the steering, that means that, since the wheels on the no. 2 axle are so close to the no. 1 axle, the wheels on the no. 2 axle are being dragged sideways. I can't imagine that would help the manoeuvrability of the whole thing. Also.... 30:24 An unfired .50BMG projectile has a diameter of 13mm. The 12,7mm is the distance between the lands of the rifling. I just couldn't help myself.
@SlinkyTWF
@SlinkyTWF Жыл бұрын
On the final question of whether the rear axle is a drive shaft, I think it might be a drive. The bulbous extensions may be for gears to drive the shaft. Just a guess, of course.
@jsplicer9
@jsplicer9 Жыл бұрын
26:00 is that M2A2E3 sitting to the right of the frame? The suspension bogies seem different than standard VVSS of other M2 lights, and although it has a Stuart style trailing idler it clearly has the twin MG turret setup.
@josemanuelsolana4265
@josemanuelsolana4265 Жыл бұрын
Very nivel report
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 Жыл бұрын
They were 37mm.. but changed to .50 cal for use as training vehicles
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 Жыл бұрын
All one needs to do is look at how castles changed after the development of reliable bombards and cannon to realise just how long we've know that sloped armour is more effective against bullets...
@justforever96
@justforever96 Жыл бұрын
But forts weren't angled to deflect shot or increase the thickness, they were angled to create fields of cross fire from the walls. The first sloped walls were sloped so they could use soft material that would absorb the shot instead of smashing.
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 Жыл бұрын
@@justforever96 Yes. And then we realised that because the front face of the wall was sloped instead of 90 degrees to the shot, the shot would just bounce. And after that fortifications were built with sloped walls for more than one reason. Happened with breastplates, too. My point is that we've had the knowledge for centuries; it doesn't matter if we discovered it by accident or through someone being clever.
@tommygun333
@tommygun333 Жыл бұрын
For better range. Waiting for another video!
@rogerlafrance6355
@rogerlafrance6355 Жыл бұрын
Looking for extra holes, its safe to say, these tanks were experimented with in every way Patton, Ike and others could think of.
@FuzzyMarineVet
@FuzzyMarineVet Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was an infantryman in 1918. When he mustered out in 1920, he brought home an inert round for the 37mm IG that was used in the trenches. My understanding is that was the same gun used on the early Christie tanks as well as the FT7. The round was much as you describe and I doubt it would have the ability to penetrate the armor on a WWII M3 scout car, let alone another tank.
@barongorn
@barongorn Жыл бұрын
I imagine the short 37's would be entirely HE, unless there were different fillers that can be used in a low velocity round, like smoke perhaps. Creating any type of kinetic AP that would fit the breech would be wishful thinking really. Just my logic based opinion.
@JohnTBlock
@JohnTBlock 17 күн бұрын
The only .50 MG we HAD back then was the Browning, M-2. It had only been adopted in '21, so this tank usage would be in the first 10-11 years of adoption! All the different .50 cals we had were a matter of trying to improve upon Ma-Deuce. (HA!) And those weren't until after WW II....I as long have a Hotchkiss 37 mm casung, my Dad was decorating to kill time in hospital in Australia recovering from his Destroyer sinking at Guadalcanal - photos following.
@timscherrer9924
@timscherrer9924 Жыл бұрын
Also there is a part number on the mystery silos….maybe comparison to a manual might help.
@22GamingGuy
@22GamingGuy Жыл бұрын
I’ll always believe The Chieftain is the Doug Demuro of tanks, finding all the quirks and features and getting around a tank as if I may consider buying or using it lol
@ivankrylov6270
@ivankrylov6270 Жыл бұрын
I found a forum page from 2020 with a 37mm belt link that looks about the same length as a .50 that no one could figure out. Cant post the link, but it was on the great war forum and was a cloth belt with riveted brass strips separating the links. Not saying that it was for the tank but there was a precedent to use belted 37mm ammo
@finoxb944
@finoxb944 Жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly, the M2 hvy machine gun didn't have the universal receiver modifications made until after this tank was designed. Might that be the reason for the difference in the mounting?
@gregorybrennan8539
@gregorybrennan8539 Жыл бұрын
Col. I thought the Idler Wheels were RR track adaptors. Now I know but that seems like a good accessory. Use RR tracks as highways. All the bridges are strong enough and much better mileage.
@justforever96
@justforever96 Жыл бұрын
But you can only go where the tracks go. And trains can't use the tracks at the same time. And you are a lot less efficient than just loading the tanks onto flat cars and having a locomotive pull them. And how do you organize 100 take all trying to drive on the same tracks? There is a reason they use trains and not hundreds of small railcars. Advancing into enemy territory on rails is making yourself seriously vulnerable and unable to maneuver, using the tracks behind your own lines takes up badly needed trackage that they need to keep the front supplied.
@gregorybrennan8539
@gregorybrennan8539 Жыл бұрын
Yes all this is true BUT. One country's rails wont fit another country's locomotive engines purposely. I am also suggesting using the rail system in an occupied country and you can jump off anytime you want
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 Жыл бұрын
Hey Chieftain just something I noticed but a lot of your videos going over stuff like equipment reports and the Marmon-Harrington tanks aren't in any of your playlist. I can still find them in the video tab but it requires a bit of searching. Hope to see more!
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch Жыл бұрын
Hmm... Fair point. I guess I'll have to come up with some sort of playlist for that sort of thing
@anthonyjackson280
@anthonyjackson280 Жыл бұрын
That must b e a very heavy hatch - see how all the lights flicker when he removed it (17:30?😁
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