Inside the NBA Reacts to the State of the Phoenix Suns | NBA on TNT

[@GiriRam]

4:57 Chuck: You want me to say it? 🤣🤣 You are golden Chuck

[@mikewootson2675]

Imagine Kenny with his own podcast he be talking in circles for 40 minutes.

[@slimm7848]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cristiangodinez1139]

Haven’t cared what he’s had to say for like 10 years

[@dp2120]

No one would listen

[@OP_-pk9hm]

Yep

[@aaronwalker1678]

He’s made a career of it

[@august6281]

as much as Ayton benefited from CP3 on their 1st year together, he will not develop into a Superstar/Star the way Suns use him, having Cp3 their 2nd option while Ayton is only their 3rd/4th

[@NS3825]

Cp3 was out for 10+ games ayton still didn’t do anything. Only a fool believes he can be a star

[@august6281]

@@NS3825 well, i kind of agree. Im not a fan of his soft/too finesse style of play. But still, i jsut want to see him be given the responsibility of the 2nd star and see how he will perform. I also not a fan of him asking the max since he hasn't proven anything

[@twizz13r24]

@@august6281 he had that opportunity for 10 plus games

[@twizz13r24]

@@august6281 some of those games he was number 1 and he was mid at best

[@otislamar8613]

@@twizz13r24 bruh 10 games while not being developed as a real option isn’t fair to judge him most stars get atleast a year of constant being the guy or number 2

[@deshizle]

So now folks wanna regulate how much a team is sold???

[@jordanjenkins1671]

Crazy how they could pressure Robert Sarver into selling yet James Dolan still owns the Knicks despite keeping the franchise cursed for decades.

[@WhamBang]

Losing isn’t a black enough eye.

[@TomDelayBeats]

Marxism

[@qbQubii]

I thought trae young was the owner of the knicks?

[@Bristaps]

Dolan basically doesn’t run the team anymore. So it’s not so bad.

[@BabaYagaRacing]

@@qbQubii 😅😅😅

[@meatyeye]

Kenny and Chuck always be cutting Shaq off when it’s his turn 😂

[@kimberlybecoatstudio7020]

Thank God.

[@JohnWick-qr4yc]

Good no one wants to hear him Mumble for 5 minutes straight saying not much of anything he’s only there to joke around with Chuck

[@meanjean3023]

1,2 back to 1

[@meatyeye]

@@meanjean3023 😂😂😂😂😂

[@GG-fy2bm]

@@JohnWick-qr4yc 💀💀💀

[@hughjanus5525]

So sick of Monty targeting Ayton, man. I’ve seen Book completely forget about his coverage and leave wide open 3 shooters in the corner. Not a peep from Monty. Popovitch used to chew out Duncan just like anyone else on the team, but Monty is so afraid/scared to hurt Paul and Book’s feelings that he exclusively exerts his frustration on DA because he is a “nice guy”.

[@lizziebutdiff698]

Remember the suns lost because ayton chose to play mmorpg during the playoffs instead of going to sleep he was intentionally playing poorly because he wanted to get the max contract first. Instead of preparing and getting enough rest for game 7 ayton chose to play online games with his nerdy friends whom he refers as "family" until 4am in the morning. For the suns to get the chip they need to get rid of ayton asap.

[@HumbleRumble420]

@@lizziebutdiff698 fire Monty Williams

[@cassidycordeiro9080]

@Lizzie but diff There are plenty of other players on the team that are not pulling their weight. One is bridges with his streaky shoot. He has a good shooting night, then he is ice cold in the following games. To me, he is looking like a slightly better version of jay crowder.

[@cassidycordeiro9080]

@Lizzie but diff then we have cam Johnson, who I think he is a great shooter, but whenever he has a good shooting night, he gets injured and is out for an extended period of time. So when he gets back how long will it take him to get back in the groove cause this also happened last year against the NY he got injured and couldn't shoot good at all when he got back.

[@joshuapratt995]

Agreed. And with Ayton always flashing up to help on the suns weak defense beyond the three point line it leaves the post vulnerable. But when cp3 is on the floor he can’t guard anybody and it makes for a weak defensive middle. Ayton is one of the last to blame as far as defensive coverage goes

[@willpina]

Kenny is so good at not making sense of any subject. Glad Shaq and Chuck are there to bail him out

[@hmrhuang]

I honestly could not tell what point he was trying to make tonight!!!

[@tomsea6017]

😂😂😂😂 If you think Chuck or Shaq are better communicators than Kenny, then your comprehension is lacking.

[@willpina]

@@tomsea6017 they are, and that's the funny part.

[@hiraijake5140]

True bruh, kenny always wants to sound smart

[@lionelreal502]

Kenny was basically saying how is it a punishment being forced to sell your team for a billion dollars after being caught saying racist things that's not punishment

[@justblaze.]

Kenny just got back from Vegas that explains allot lol

[@MrYS-eo5zw]

I was there at the raider game, GREAT GAME!!!

[@juliogarcia4757]

He paid 400M in 2001. If he had to sell it at 400M today, that would be a loss. That would be closer to like $700M when accounting for inflation alone.

[@kingjames3488]

TNT crew is just doing what their masters are telling them to do. (Communist)

[@deshizle]

These guys do not understand economics and capitalism

[@fumihiro8564]

@@deshizle they literally mentioned 600-700 million in the discussion

[@lucky889s9]

Exactly, 4billion is what it's worth TODAY. It's his right. If they forced him to sell less than that, he can sue the NBA for more. The punishment is that by losing it, he can't sell it for 5billion anymore. Harassment and others can be settled in court, has nothing to do with his 4billion

[@lifegoeson4554]

@@lucky889s9 you’re right. It’s almost like double jeopardy. The punishment is you’re no longer an owner. Oh yea and here’s this additional punishment of restriction on the sale capping your profit. If it’s not agreed upon before there’s nothing that can be done about it.

[@jjcastilllo]

This Suns team has been interesting this season. Coming out of a bad playoff loss last season, I thought the Suns will still be able to do well in the regular season but of course, need to show in the playoffs. Lately, they haven't been themselves and even though they are battling through injuries from Cam Johnson and Devin Booker, they look like they make a good effort in winning games but show what happens when they are facing pressure and lose in games that matter. They lost to a Wizards team who lost 10 in a row and even though it was shorthanded, they found a way to lose when they had the lead. Monty and Ayton haven't been eye to eye since last year and it clearly shows that he's not happy with the way the team is heading and considering the contract extension he had wasn't 5 years and that he almost went to another team but the Suns match it just to not lost him for nothing. This team right now can play well in the regular season but come playoffs, will see if they get it together soon because they manage to fail to meet expectations to win it all. They had a chance twice but for some reason, found a way to lose.

[@hueyfreeman5509]

They should have sign and traded ayton to start the season. He's getting to be more trouble than he's worth in addition to not being worth the contract they gave him

[@lucky889s9]

Ayton and Shamet got 30 points each. They did their part. Where TF was everyone else? Where's that geriatric PG?

[@ESPLTD782]

@@lucky889s9 30 against the wizards…. One game. The dude is talking about the season. It’s 82 games. Ayton doesn’t want to be on the team. He gives lack luster effort when things aren’t a going his way. I watch him very closely every game. Anyone can see it. Watch them play Boston. A couple weeks ago.

[@lucky889s9]

@@ESPLTD782 still not answering my question. Where was everyone else? Where was the geriatric PG?

[@predragnicic7138]

Luka curse

[@joeyzapata6786]

So does this mean that the nachos at the Suns games won't have pickles anymore?

[@benda777nba]

😅

[@Ewabound571]

I know they mad about the $4 billion dollars but that’s the value of the franchise TODAY. He invested smart when he bought it years ago. They can’t say Sarver cant get his money, the only punishment is he lost his franchise so by losing it he can’t make more money off of it form it’s value overtime. It don’t matter what he did wrong, it cost what’s it’s worth today no matter if it’s not right or not. That’s business.

[@isfakahmed]

🥾👅

[@robertleamon1419]

I agree

[@InfoGDotG]

Exactly. I don't understand what they're trying to say... do they want to rob him?

[@Mister_Real_Talk]

Great comment. 👏🏼 I agree 100 %.

[@lucky889s9]

They were ex players, not too bright. They don't understand business basic investments, value, future value, market situation. Had the value NOW was 200mil, will they have anything to say about it? Right or wrong, can be settled in court. But the current value is 4 billion, not a penny less

[@SFCAUSTIN1995]

I loved these wizards uniforms. I like these. I miss when they were in rotation.

[@terryindachat7296]

I'm glad Ayton giving it back to Monty, cuz in the past couple years Monty would bark at Ayton and he would just hold his head down and take it. When Booker is out you run the offense thru me, not whoever is slotted in at the 2 guard... Landry played a good game.

[@terryindachat7296]

@@bmorejunior how is being too consistent a bad thing 😕

[@makaveli6873]

If Kenny had a podcast it’ll sound like this: “Ladies & Gentleman, but not to exclude anybody else, I am Kenny Smith and I wanted to talk about something overwhelming, dare I say, immersing. It’s been on my mind for a while, and I just thought “Maybe if I bring this to light it’ll receive good coverage” Coverage that I’ve learned, with Hakeem of course, to be honest about. Not biased but completely honest, and it’s so frustrating because just like Shaq said, it could be challenging. But as a matter of fact, it is a very difficult conversation to have. Goodnight everyone”

[@Lucky00-00]

The suns are going thru the Chris Paul effect

[@bye692001]

the 2nd team that CP has been on, which resulted in owner having to sell. LA and Suns

[@artimp152]

Lol

[@1987benhur]

BeSt LeAdEr In ThE NbA...

[@ColdHoops]

@@bye692001 Houston got a new owner too. Don't forget

[@bye692001]

@@ColdHoops snap, oh yeah totally forgot. thats even worse, CP made 3 team owners sell.

[@bobby4front]

Why are people acting like he was rewarded when he was shunned into selling lol. If you think he made a lot of money now just imagine if he had sold it 20 years from now when he wanted too....

[@Xyz99899]

Well said

[@chrislowe8212]

Brad having 16 in 4th is crazy

[@matt-qz2dv]

Brad?

[@carsyntruong4881]

@@matt-qz2dv brad beal

[@matt-qz2dv]

Beal. Who tf is Brad?

[@albertol9654]

Bradley*

[@Forthreee]

Brad*

[@Binnieishere]

Ayton has loads of potential, but his biggest issue is that he's still super immature. He's been immature and had the wrong mindset since college. This is the same kid when he played in Arizona, his team was the favorite to win it all but got eliminated in the first round and then after the game he literally said he's not thinking about it anymore and just focusing on the NBA draft. Kid has talent, but no heart whatsoever.

[@otepdotnet]

i don't think he is immature, the leaders of that team treat him like he was kid, Just give him a bigger responsibility not just a third or 4th option of the team

[@blablablaa14]

Its nice to blame it on the young kid coming out of college super early with a ton of expectations and not the entire adult organization that is supposed to teach him how to be an NBA player. If he went to the Spurs he would be a top player

[@Doriamo]

Ayton probably just has roid rage.

[@JrobAlmighty]

@@otepdotnet absolutely

[@joshuapratt995]

If he gets fired up and intense about the game. He gets called immature. If he stays quiet then he’s not in the game and he’s soft. Either way people gonna hate. He’s very very low on a list of issues suns have

[@abayomikelvin5153]

Capitalism doesn't have a switch that can be flipped on/off.

[@WhosPlant]

Beautifully said.

[@jamesmiller5331]

I don't know what their suggestion is. Take away what the man owns? I stopped short of saying property, but you know what I mean. You're not allowed to tell him he can't sell it and you were lucky to be able to *make him* sell it.

[@radi0bezel825]

Actually it does… it’s called regulation. Happens quite often.

[@jamesmiller5331]

@Radi0 Bezel link me to the regulation passed that turned capitalism off like a light switch.

[@theddd15]

*sent from your Apple Iphone*

[@2KGrind09]

Ayton ain't accepting the blame for him playing lackluster & trying to pass the blame to someone else "I'm talking to you & him" - Monty

[@davidumoja6488]

I think it's fair. That's the dollar value of his team. What he lost is priceless.

[@erik3423]

As a Suns fan, losing Robert Sarver is priceless. He could have sold the team for 50 billion and I wouldn't care, the guy was the worst owner in the NBA, maybe tied with Dolan.

[@davidumoja6488]

@@erik3423 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@paulfrantizek102]

Being forced to sell something against your will is absolutely a punishment, regardless of whether you make $$$ or not.

[@nikosvault]

You don't own a NBA team in isolation.

[@paulfrantizek102]

@@nikosvault Very true. But the franchise contract doesn't allow the league to garnish the proceeds of the sale just because they disapprove of the owner's conduct. Now maybe that will change at some point, but I'm skeptical that owners will agree to a revision of franchise terms that allows the league to potentially garnish billions from them. It's just not a reasonable thing to expect.

[@octaviakf]

Agreed

[@lucky889s9]

Exactly, 4billion is what it's worth TODAY. It's his right as owner. If they forced him to sell less than that, he can sue the NBA for more. The punishment is that by losing it, he can't sell it for 5billion anymore. Harassment and others can be settled in court, has nothing to do with his 4 billion. If the value is now 200mil, chuck won't even open his piehole

[@lisafan6365]

It's the bidding wars that come when a team is up for sale that causes the price to inflate. Especially when these forced sales happen it puts more of a spotlight on it and these billionaires are more desperate to swoop in and become this positive savior for their brand.

[@wilsonchubacca]

They seemed to have left out that Sarver was FINED 10 million dollars for his misconduct as well as suspended. Sounds like a punishment to me… might nof seem fair to the average folks but they forgot about market value, inflation. Unless they rewrite team ownership rules, it is what it is.

[@nuevohills1104]

10 million dollar fine is nothing to someone who turn 400 million into 4 Billion

[@lucky889s9]

Exactly, 4billion is what it's worth TODAY. It's his right. If they forced him to sell less than that, he can sue the NBA for more. The punishment is that by losing it, he can't sell it for 5billion anymore. Harassment and others can be settled in court, has nothing to do with his 4billion

[@janoycresnova9156]

Fined 10 mil for quoting what other teams players were openly shouting on the court and cracking a few bad taste jokes. Had Sarver been a different skin color, he'd just get a stern talking to from the commiss. This is the clown world we live in today.

[@darrengordon-hill]

@@nuevohills1104 WHAT WILL THEY DO WITH THE MONEY?? How many zeros will soothe the pain of "racist misogyny"??? LeBron is nigh on a billionaire... yet STILL A VICTIM; so clearly it'll take a lot of money...

[@rjtherenegade7743]

@@janoycresnova9156If you’re racist just say that.

[@markarmage3776]

You're not allowed to punish people by taking away their property. Being rude and being racist is not a criminal offense. Now Sarver did a lot of good stuff to that team. Had the team not been in this current situation with a decent fan base and good enough stars, it would've been sold for the price of the Hornets. Property is property, ownership of property is human right. You can't violate somebody's human right just because they hurt your feelings.

[@sheedmm2174]

What they said regarding the Suns 4billion sale made zero sense to me lol. If someone who is racist for example owned a very rare Micheal Jordan card that is worth 10 million dollars. The value of the card isn’t going to change just because the owner of the card is racist or misogynistic

[@deshizle]

That's cause they do not understand capitalism they need to take classes in economics and investing

[@diegobromfield]

400 million in 2001 is not 4 billion today so I don't know what you guys are on about. The guy clearly won and this is not punishment. That's the point they are making. 4 billion is waaaaay too much.

[@deshizle]

@@diegobromfield $4 billion is too much for folks who ain't got it. And when it comes to owning a rare asset such as a sport franchise the value of that asset can go up exponentially. Plus owning sport teams is a billionaire game

[@THEEKANYEW3ST]

@@deshizle you're right, because 5 or 10 years from now the team might be worth 8 billion.

[@lucky889s9]

Exactly, 4billion is what it's worth TODAY. It's his right. If they forced him to sell less than that, he can sue the NBA for more. The punishment is that by losing it, he can't sell it for more in the future. Plus he's forced to sell against his will is punishment enough. Harassment and others can be settled in court, has nothing to do with his 4 billion

[@xXxALeXFuTexBaLxXx]

Him having to sell is the punishment he’s just lucky the team Appreciated in value over time

[@onceuponasavage]

They FORCED him to sell now they’re mad at the amount of money he got😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@darrengordon-hill]

I believe the saying is "Haters gonna hate"...

[@TJAvant95]

The funny thing is…Shaq said when we do something they do this and that..BUT YALL DO EXACTLY THAT! Talk down on your “own” all the time being used as pawns

[@dhawalpatel9185]

what is that background music its too dope

[@BlackBeard.2345]

“The Great Bradley Beal” - Mr. Barkley brought it on himself

[@marvellis6762]

Kenny business isn't a democracy

[@ryanabbeyseon]

It’s not a meritocracy either

[@marvellis6762]

Can you elaborate that?

[@bobby4front]

@@ryanabbeyseon Yea Some ppl can get a "small" loan of a million dollars from their folks while others cant

[@HybridxProject]

@@bobby4frontLifes not fair bud, you can disqualify people from buying something cause they had more resources growing up. Most of your favorite nba players are sons of nba players. Should steph curry not be allowed in the nba b/c he had a professional ball player for a father to mentor him as well as millions of dollars to put to his game? give me a break..

[@PandainAtlanta]

@@HybridxProject exactly lol.

[@julietrips4906]

I forgot to skip kenny's part this time. Smh

[@deathstarstallion]

Wasn't just him, he was saying what Chuck, Shaq and himself all thought. Wouldn't have been better if someone else said it

[@LeChina]

Yall hatred for black people be showing smh.

[@217ShowOffBoii]

cause he spoke the truth?

[@quagmir3]

Because he said something you didn't like

[@darrengordon-hill]

@@deathstarstallion WHOLE PANEL IS BETA!!!

[@rayreese8924]

Wait he’s not allowed to sell his team at the price it costs?

[@lakersrdbest]

What did they do Ernest🤣👏

[@aquaviii]

Idk why Kenny said that😂😂

[@dusk6159]

Ernest and Sir Charles

[@sandorfintor]

Kenny's comments are purely incoherent on the Suns situation.

[@femlin1994]

Kenny’s comments are typically incoherent on most topics.

[@pex3]

No, you just are having a hard time understanding. He's saying a) The NBA should scrutinize ownership and executives to make sure we don't get another Sterling or Sarver. Less likely to have widespread racism and sexism when people of colour and women are high up in the organization. b) The NBA should find a way to hold owners financially accountable for the problems they create, just like the players are held financially accountable.

[@seanpidduck]

@@pex3 grow up pal. The woke clergy are full of it. What did MLK say? Content of character not colour of skin. Why are we still talking about people of colour in 2022 we are all humans. Skin pigmentation means NOTHING

[@starfireprincess]

@@pex3 People of color? You mean white people right? They turn blue when cold, red when hot, green when sick, etc

[@deshizle]

@@pex3 Where's the proof of when people of color are in charge less BS happens?

[@jwilliamsdrums]

That’s the type of game afterwards the coach start throwing clipboards and knocking over the Gatorade stand. And say to the team if anybody gotta problem we can square up right now! 😂

[@isaabdullahi9097]

Kenny Oh Kenny

[@bobby4front]

ikr😂

[@SoggySlopster]

He has no idea how the world works 😂

[@janoycresnova9156]

"we need more diversity" aka more people with Kenny's skin color. No we don't. We need more merit based employment.

[@billyconnelly3568]

@@janoycresnova9156 Kenny's analysis isn't top shelf but you MAGAts can buzz off.

[@indamaking]

Suns are still around the top in the west though battling injuries with the whole starting lineup except for Bridges. After this game Ayton said that “We’re a family” and stated this stuff happens. Also Jae Crowder has the played a minute this szn. Suns will be fine

[@BePatientSeeLove]

Jae isn't part of the team anymore

[@CezrDaPleazr]

Im so happy they spoke about this

[@bigtimeohiostate1307]

They are totally wrong. If the value of his team increased since he bought it he has every right to make a profit. You wanted Mr. Sarver out so now he is out

[@JS-fw1gz]

The team should go to the inside the nba guys. Imagine shaq, Charles and Kenny coaching those guys

[@Jermaine2099]

A 10x return on investment is insane. If I had the money I'd get into sports ownership asap. Even partial is fine lol

[@bonddm1391]

They have it made.

[@DarkTim3z]

I think we need to start taking a closer look at the attitudes of the individuals on the team

[@carlolo607]

The value of the team is dictated by the market at the current valuation regardless of what the owner did or did not do behind closed doors unfortunately. His punishment will be dealt with once proceedings are brought forward in court. Two separate issues.

[@LebronMelo1523]

Love what they said about the owner selling

[@royhobbs5167]

He owned the team. He sold the team. You literally can't make a rule that says if we don't like you you have to lose billions of dollars.

[@darrengordon-hill]

You're a racist. You owe me your house now...

[@YeeSoest]

You could quite easily write a rule that says "If you harm the League, be it financially or in terms of prestige and public image, you're out. We take the team, pay you out and sell it elsewhere. (We didn't need Donald Sterling and got rid of him and we certainly don't need anyone else following his footsteps.) You can't disown him but sure you can kick him out. Or rather threaten his team with ineligibility and thus force the sale. It's not HIS league, just his team...he can apply to any other league...oh wait

[@darrengordon-hill]

@@YeeSoest How about you earn enough to buy a franchise THEN talk about policies that will apply to YOU!!! The hurt feelings of "misogyny and racism" is a joke!! Well then, I accuse you, so you now owe me stuff...

[@royhobbs5167]

@@YeeSoest I agree with that and that's what they did... And he sold the team. They're just being petty about how much he made on the sale. We're a capitalist republic. That's how this works. He paid 400 million for the team. During that time the team appreciated to 4 billion. Trying to force him to lose money on his company is a dictatorship like China.

[@YeeSoest]

@@darrengordon-hill dafuq are you on? First: Just because someone has the money doesn't absolve them of the responsibility to act right. Maybe in your household but not legally. Second: I don't need to be affected to know and discuss the rules. That's why there are lawyers and judges. And Journalists and as you can see KZbin comments. Third: WERE YOU IN THE ROOM OR HOW DO YOU KNOW ANY MORE THAN I DO??? You just don't believe in racism and misogyny, do you? Well that's all I need to know. Fourth: You need evidence just like any other accuser. Name the date and location of my missteps and i'll tell you... to eff off because you are saddening

[@chrisheineken9757]

I'm digging this instrumental background song. Who does it? Can anyone find this song?? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@junebugboy5074]

Barkley said the same thing twice lol

[@Dre_Key]

He always does, just changes the sentence around😂😂

[@tharanidharan7610]

Yeah it's 1 2 and back to 2 not 3.

[@aaronwalker1678]

He doesn’t count money twice

[@SwishGod6]

I like them wizards jerseys still

[@bmomosaik]

the problem with what chuck is saying is that hes missing the point the teams value has grown. you cant look at what he bought the team for. you can only look at what the team is worth now. and force him to sell forcing him to sell today means that if the value of the team grows tomorrow to 7 billion he is missing out on that growth, you cant take away the growth he was the owner for.

[@blackpow3r]

That's like saying someone who makes 20 million by scamming people don't get ordered to pay back the money via restitution. They are right, have him just get the money back he invested but none of the profits for clear horrible infractions. Being able to keep all of that is anything but a punishment. He's walking away unscathed financially.

[@bmomosaik]

@@blackpow3r he did not scam anyone. dmbas

[@bmomosaik]

@@blackpow3r the punishment is having to sell the team and missing out on the growth and also the business itself. the value of the team grown under his ownership thats his money. you do understand that 3 of the four of them on that panel barely passed highschool right..

[@MojoMachin3]

@@bmomosaik You don't need to pass highschool to understand that the point they are trying to make is legit and a morality clause would stop toxic owners from abusing their power. While it may not be practical it is a good point that can be built on.

[@bmomosaik]

@@MojoMachin3 no its not a good point. thats like saying shaq cheated on his wife so now every business he has ever invested in he should have to sell with zero profit for X amount of years. you can only make changes going forward not backwords...

[@xwers1234]

Kenny is the king of saying a lot of words, but saying nothing

[@JoeWagner21]

The idea that a private entity can seize your property because they say you did something wrong is insane. I appreciate how Kenny Shaq and Chuck feel, but their plan is essentially a call for fascism. What they're saying is like if you had a car, and the garage you kept it at found you guilty of something so they kick you out of the garage and take your car. Or an even better example is like if a NBA player abuses their spouse so the NBA kicks them out of the league and takes back all the money they ever made in the NBA.

[@michaelmacintosh3109]

Still talking about the dumb outside drama when I just wanna tune in to hear about the game

[@9bridges]

Thank you Kenny for speaking up!

[@cdplayer9933]

How much for each team?

[@hillplays4798]

its a business selling a franchise for more than what you got it for is normal and doesn't have anything to do with race or gender

[@diegobromfield]

From 400m to 4b? That's not just higher. That is way higher. And clearly a huge profit for a guy that did bad things.

[@firstchain_prominence]

@@diegobromfield they are worth alot more now

[@THEEKANYEW3ST]

@@diegobromfield I own a car, over time it becomes more valuable, I do bad things and am forced to sell it, it's still my car and if someone is willing to pay a high price for it has nothing to do with the bad things I did in the past.

[@IBlackSanta]

Talking about punishment. You can throw race and gender into your point if you want to, but they obviously have a problem with the lack of punishment. Doesn't matter what the franchise is worth at this point. We're talking morally here..

[@bryange7747]

@@IBlackSanta Don't talk about money when you are trying to talk morally.

[@xm23ful]

that's true. Never thought fit like that. If it's forced sell they should get what the league says Forces owners to change their ways

[@nochill9722]

Big respect to Ernie for not interrupting when Kenny, Chuck and Shaq spoke 🙏🏽

[@tyronemaxwell8091]

He should’ve, they was speaking nonsense that had nothing to do with the topic

[@Cyilus_World]

@@tyronemaxwell8091 What’s nonsense on what they said ? When players do something they get crucified but the owners get off no punishment at all

[@mduncanmd17]

@@tyronemaxwell8091 yep complete none sense. That’s why Ernie didn’t say anything lol

[@mduncanmd17]

@@Cyilus_World if you break the law should they take your house? That makes just about as winch sense

[@jamalabdelbaset6635]

@@tyronemaxwell8091 Agreed. The topic had everything to do with what’s currently going on with the Suns. They should’ve been talking about Ayton not playing up to his potential. That has nothing to do with Robert Sarver. He’s gone and the team is still in disarray. Can’t keep going back to Sarver.

[@jusrevenue3102]

That’s a good look to have a owner that played is dope

[@lionelt7882]

Suns needed an owner who actually knows basketball

[@mykhailoversta1473]

basketball teams need general managers that know basketball. good owner just pays when it needs and he is not involved in basketball operations, especially if he thinks he "knows basketball". Imo

[@thespadestable]

The Suns need to catch the right players at the right time like what Milwaukee has been able to take advantage of. Now they are the team to join when not too long ago, they were the team to avoid.

[@lionelt7882]

@@mykhailoversta1473 nah. Suns needed an owner that actually knows basketball and willing to pay extra for players and GMs who know basketball. Here in Phoenix, too many casuals have been in that owners box

[@swimfan752]

That’s not gonna fix their issues lol

[@c_smooth5645]

what is the Name of the Beat playing in the background ??

[@giesii_141]

The players have the same attitude problem that the clippers had when CP3 was there. Talking all kinds of trash and then getting sensitive. You can't have it both ways.

[@beinghonest9433]

it's monty he needs to go

[@giesii_141]

@@beinghonest9433 but he is one of the best coaches in the league and i don't know if they can get somebody who is better. They need to concentrate on themselves, clear their differences and come together as a team. Changing the coach now would not fix them

[@beinghonest9433]

@@giesii_141 He always gets out coached in the playoffs and regular season too. Booker is a great player and Jones built a good team around him that any joker can coach them for wins. Monty is a trash coach.

[@giesii_141]

@@beinghonest9433 you need a coach and leader in the playoffs, not some joker and Monty is that. Well respected around the league, just in a difficult situation at this moment. He can figure it out..

[@beinghonest9433]

@@giesii_141 monty throwing ayton under the bus again great leader LOL

[@RocellerAlvarez]

If it's worth $4B.... then it's worth $4B... what you people are even talking about?? The punishment is being forced to sell a business that makes a LOOOTTT of money!

[@terencew7716]

Phoenix needs to move Deandre Ayton at the trade deadline

[@Ravenamps]

Fr. If he and Monty haven’t settled it by now I don’t see them doing so anytime soon. DA needs a new locker room. He’s just gonna keep giving minimum effort as long as Monty’s the HC.

[@mannymanny3859]

Ownership vs employees always gonna be huge differences " punishment "

[@Dre_Key]

They didnt even force him to sell it, he chose to. They just suspended him so there was no punishment whatsoever.

[@universe-ie2mk]

Thats not the point. The point is to get knowingly bad owners out of the league. Donald sterling got 2 billion dollars from a 13 million dollar sale with the clippers. But he can have the money, no one in the industry will ever respect him again.

[@bobby4front]

kinda blackballed out

[@valjohnson7112]

Uh the nba fined him 10 million dollars. That’s no a punishment?

[@jacksonelh]

@@valjohnson7112 shouldve fined him 4 billion

[@Xyz99899]

Suspension isnt a punishment? Pretty much black balled him out of ownership. Just a bunch of haters wishing they couldve invested and made billions.

[@curtisbarnes2283]

Dang all I see is Chris Paul getting exposed on defense 😂

[@matcole1975]

It's nothing to worry about. These guys want to win. They just need to take it out on the court. Not on each other.

[@mallabiss6772]

This is sad they don’t understand the market dictates the price not your feelings

[@estigia]

"what did they do ernest?" hahahahahahahaha

[@AlmostanSRT]

I love how that intro was worded as “allegedly”. It was true that Sarver was who he was, this is is the sole reason his majority stake was sold. It was true just like Ime Udoka situation was also true

[@real4life335]

yeah that's not a punishment. it's a business transaction.

[@andrefaelnar]

They could've let him walk to the Pacers but I guess the Suns didn't wanna lose him for nothing I guess?

[@8mathdaddy]

They can trade him.

[@namontaylor2701]

They can trade him on Jan 15th.??

[@harmonicproportions6588]

Sports teams should be public, cheap tickets should be available to public. The players and owners make way too much money and the fans lose out

[@xengarcia1217]

Ìf only indiana Got that center i think hes happy to go out from suns and now Suns are playing ayton crazy when booker is playing

[@bazzle2122]

Samurai turner > ayton

[@jimmyrouse8920]

It doesn't matter where he plays he's just to soft

[@desmondslater]

Tf Kenny talking about

[@Call_me_E_C]

Lack of representation leading to an absence of true accountability and consequence. Which everyone on the table agreed with...

[@Dre_Key]

He's saying the punishments arent really punishments and theyre just making rich white men richer instead of a minority even getting a shot to be an owner in a majority black league. He was being careful with his words

[@beinghonest9433]

@@Call_me_E_C where is the representation on the player side 80% black?

[@quick2bud]

@@beinghonest9433 Whoa whoa buddy! We are only allowed talk about how oppressed black people and women are. Say it with me, "white man bad!!!"

[@beinghonest9433]

@@quick2bud Im native american i want to see more brown people(native or hispanic), some asian too the Rocket should always have an asian player LOL but i agree white man bad i should know.

[@Israelguy100]

Kenny just talking 😂😂😂

[@darrengordon-hill]

"Female African American Woman"

[@MattBCnR]

No, regardless of racist or un-ethical things a owner potentially did, you can't force him to sell for no gain. It's his team, if the players/staff don't like it, they can all refuse to play/work. If not, pay the man and add the diversity you seek.

[@MattBCnR]

The 4 billion was what the team was worth and he deserved to be paid what the team is worth.

[@charalamposlazoglou7658]

It might not be fair but it is life. Bosses have more options than employees. Furthermore, how much he bought it for is irrelevant. Nba teams values have multiplied since then.

[@valjohnson7112]

It’s no different from an employee being fired for making racist comments. The dude got fired from being an owner. They don’t fire you and also take your car.

[@righttocensorvalvenis]

Wizards should make these unis their permanent ones again 🔥🔥💯💯

[@allengreene9954]

They need to change their name back to the Bullets.

[@edvirgiliom]

It's funny how they all talk about diversity in ownership but never mention it at a player level (mainly black). You know why that is? Because playing in the league is based on merit. There's a case to be made for ownership (measured by accumulation of capital) also being merit based, so imo their points are not valid since what they mean is just biased,they don't want "diverse" representation, they want black representation. Alsothe fact that he sold the team for 10x doesn't mean anything, the market value is what matters. I love the guys but if they are going to comment on sth they should at least understand how markets work.

[@Dre_Key]

There is only 1 black owner in the NBA. That is definitely a problem.

[@ismokeOpps]

Well technically by your logic there should be only 2 white players and majority black execs.

[@Smoothkush98]

@@Dre_Key then they should buy one, the suns was on sale. Or are they expecting the nba to hand them a team?

[@Young-ep8ik]

@@Dre_Key why? There are plenty of rich black people. Why didn't they buy the team? Its not like someone bid 5 billion but got rejected for being black. If you want black businessmen to get an unfair advantage just so theres diversity in ownership that would've been a real problem.

[@Arvisgrt]

They were definitly way off on this one. They dont seems to understand how ownership works and complain about who the owners are. If the NBA were to not be based on market rates the league all these player salarys would crash since no one would want to buy a team that they cant later sell at market.

[@badbunny2107]

Luke sent the franchise to look for a whole new owner 🤣also CP3 hasnt been the same since kanye said he was doing kim

[@HybridxProject]

You can confiscate the guys profits on something he privately owned. He owned that team not the NBA. Even forcing him to sell it is a reach.

[@dervishmichaels9147]

But diversity! I really like Kenny, but this was a baaaad take.

[@livefromthemotherland]

I hear what the guys are saying but a cap would set a dangerous precedent for all owners who sale teams going forward. Especially as the amount of money the league generates increases in decades to come

[@chowdog2022]

Bro Kenny just saying a lot of nothing that makes no sense when chuck could’ve said the same thing in 100 less words and made it make sense 🤦‍♂️ just tryna sound smart by saying HELLA words stop dude

[@trhansen3244]

When Smith starts talking about diversity and inclusion, he is saying it's ok to be racist as long as it benefits people of color. Which is absolutely racist. We should be have a merit based system. Diversity is about the ugliest word right now.

[@moseskim1771]

He didn't want to sell the team but he had to, because he did wrong. that is punishment. The value of teams are skyrocketing so sarver is missing out. When you set the rules, fine them larger amounts then..but he made a great investment and him getting 4 billion is as legit as it gets

[@jastrology4192]

Monty is totally targeting Ayton. DA was balling on the Wizards. Just let the dude be himself and you get 30+ points for free

[@xofmetleh6618]

Ayton need to chill it ok to disagree with a coach as long as you dont disrespect.

[@alexturner-claros5156]

Chuck got down to brass tax. Class act.

[@Taydothat]

Didn’t these dudes curb stomp Kyrie a few weeks ago so he actually lost all of his deals?? Make it make sense.. they won’t even say his name

[@michaelplowman8674]

What Chuck at the end is something that would have to be put into a contract beforehand. It's like buying a house and being in an HOA. You could do something where you have to sell your home and move away, but they can't make you sell your house at less than market value.

[@pex3]

I think that's what they are arguing for, so that this doesn't happen in the future. I have no legal background and nor does Shaq but Shaq mentions a "morality clause"

[@michaelplowman8674]

@@pex3 And every current owner would have to have one applied to them also. There's no leverage or incentive for them to do so. A week after the sale no one will really remember or care anyway.

[@ThereIsNoTrueLove]

wow that dude make a huge profit nice punishment

[@IshhTheFish]

Would have made more if he held on to the team...

[@valjohnson7112]

He didn’t want to sell it. They made him do something he didn’t want to do as a consequence of his actions. That’s the definition of a punishment.

[@janoycresnova9156]

His punishment was $10 mil fine. He didn't have to sell. He chose to on his own.

[@dvdly]

I'm not sure what punishment they have in mind, unless they think the NBA could have fined the owner three-&a-half billion dollars prior to his having sold the team. Once it's sold, that ship has sailed. I suppose the ownership collective and/or the league could try to negate the sale until the owner in question somehow voluntarily relinquishes his massive profit, but any court in the land is gonna side with the owner on that one. Now, as to the question of who the team should've been sold to, well, then you have an argument. The rest is a red herring with no solution.

[@reallyharsh]

the suns will be blown up this offseason

[@mikewootson2675]

Hmm u think Paul and Ayton are gone ?

[@reallyharsh]

@@mikewootson2675 yeah, suns won't keep them around after they lose in the playoffs again

[@Nexta12321]

He didn't 10x his money from making derogatory comments. He 10x his money by contributing to the growth of the league. Not saying it's right, I'm just saying that they are independent of each other. And the punishment of having to sell now is not 20x-ing his money from the future growth of the league

[@hughjanus5525]

Why does Kenny’s moustache look fake

[@valjohnson7112]

It might be fake. Those dots on his head are fake hair.

[@ABG0]

Luka and the mavs gave them an unforgettable playoff exit. #emotionaldamage

[@timato234]

It's pretty clear what Kenny's valid point is here and if you cant understand it that's on you

[@richardmather1906]

Then its on me, because this take makes no sense. The NBA is not giving the owner $4 bil. The new owner is. That is what the team is worth. Of course he is entitled to what the team is worth. Its his team. The league has a lot of control over the franchises. But they can't just steal the team from the owner.