Inside Toronto’s $40 Billion Subway Expansion

[@MrAronymous]

Subway revolution? Just building a new subway line that has been needed for 40 years is not relevolutionary, mr AI channel.

[@AmorFati-n6q]

Exactly. They could've done this in the 90s or early 2000s. As usual they're all waiting for their pensions and don't want to rock the boat.

[@annakoncz9413]

Russia has been building subway metro line. Much. Faster! Toronto subway is a joke. Smelling dirty.

[@fortythreenorth2518]

It's big for Canada. No it's no China but for Toronto it is badly needed as there's been zero investment thanks to the previous premiers doing nothing.

[@WebVid]

Two minutes in and I’ve lost track of how many errors there are.

[@riseofazrael]

That's what you get when AI writes the script.

[@bobmerkley3959]

I’ve lived here 35 years and I’ve never heard of the ‘Yongay’ line.

[@RyantheCanuckpirate]

@@bobmerkley3959 Have you ever taken the G-O train?

[@arrjay2410]

I've lived in the GGH all my life, including 35 years in Toronto. There is a tossed salad of transit plans being built or in advanced stages of planning. This report gave me a better handle on the plans that are ongoing. Traffic in Toronto proper is chaotic, more so with all the construction going on. If you want to travel relatively short distances, right now, it's faster to walk. One project you might want to look at is the High-Speed rail planned for the Toronto to Montreal corridor. It is currently at the tender stage with at least three organizations bidding on it. Within a few months it will either get the go ahead - or die.

[@watson956]

1:15 Noooo, that's not York Region, that's the former borough of York, which is now part of Toronto. York Region is NORTH of Toronto, and includes Georgina, East Gwillimbury, King, Whitchurch-Stouffville, Newmarket, Aurora, Richmond Hill, Markham and Vaughan. The map at 7:58 is correct. Also regarding Scarborough - the transit plans just skirt the western portion of Scarborough - transit needs to go a lot further east than the Ontario Line, and further than the SRT used to, as a matter of fact.

[@anthonysaunders345]

1:15 I have no idea where they got that map. It's a mishmash of regions, cities, former cities before amalgamation, and neighbourhoods. Why the would highlight Rexdale, for example, as a separate and significant area is beyond me.

[@nanaokyere7141]

Scarborough is not part of the GTA. It's apart of Toronto. Also Scarborough currently has 3 subway stops (Victoria park, Warden and Kennedy) already. I hate when ppl don't know the difference between Toronto and the GTA.

[@spencermatthews5942]

The Gee Oh trains??? It's Go Train.

[@DINESH1983WONDERS]

Construct Monorail in all NIC (New Industrial City) and Metro Rail Transport System in all SMART Cities.

[@Lizwindsor]

GO stands for Government of Ontario. No one says gee-oh, it’s GO

[@DavidHalverson]

Obviously this was read by a computer voice synthesizer and not an actual human reading his report back to the viewer.

[@broreal]

Well done. You forgot to mention the almost completed Finch West LRT project.

[@henrygreenwood3927]

The problem will be the downtown core. All these projects will make for major congestion. For example... Toronto has some very narrow sidewalks. That will need to be fixed.

[@PWingert1966]

Line 5 is not a subway it is an LRT. It does not use rolling rail stock as its cars but instead streetcar like vehicles with 1/3 the capacity of subway. By the time it opens it will be over capacity and without its eastern segment, the Eglinton east LRT, it will be incomplete. It is over a decade late and 30% over budget at a projected 13 billion dollars prior to opening and not accounting for the unfunded operating costs. Its construction cost is over a billion dollars per mile. The most expensive transit line ever built in Canada per mile. The extension to the airport has still not been approved for funded by the province or the federal governments.

[@CujoBD.]

It's not a decade late. The original opening was scheduled for 2020. It's five years late.

[@DavidHalverson]

Unless immigration policy changes the improvements made to the subway and LRT network will be lacking due to overcrowding. Government needs to make new arrivals to Canada live in other provinces when they have processed their visa applications making the Golden Horseshoe a restricted and NO GO TO region for any new Canadians as the infrastructure and transportation services cannot handle the population explosion.

[@Vortexone112]

“Subway” is a location. “LRT” is a technology. They are not mutually exclusive

[@PWingert1966]

@@Vortexone112 But you would agree that you are not going to build a" subway system" using railstock and having higher capacity (1500 passengers per Subway train compared to 490 per three car train for the LRT) where an LRT already exists. Nor are you likely to be able to replace the existing LRT with a larger system of railstock carrying 1500 passengers since it is likely the gauge and tunnel specifications and not suitable to the large cars and the platforms are not able to accommodate the longer railcars. That was the core of the point that I was trying to make. You have no overhead in the Eglington LRT to accommodate the current projected growth which is potentially an order of magnitude greater then the LRT design allowed for.

[@Nouvellecosse]

If you look around the world, subway and metro trains have vastly different sizes. Just because a line doesn't use the same ultra-high capacity 6-car trains as the current Toronto line 1&2 subway doesn't mean it's low capacity or that it won't be sufficient for demand. The vehicles will be 2.6m wide and up to 90m long while there are subway lines in places like Paris, Berlin and Madrid that are smaller in all dimensions. The only thing that's signficantly different compared to many world metro/subway lines is that the trains can run at street level rather than only in tunnels. And since Line 5 doesn't go downtown and doesn't run through the city's densest neighbourhoods, and it will have much greater capacity than the buses it's replacing. Sure it will reach capacity eventually but that's true of any line in a growing city and it just means new lines will be needed in the future.

[@jeffwindrim975]

If they are going to expand the Sheppard line it should be extended to the Sheppard West Subway Station that would be a game changer for getting around Toronto

[@DINESH1983WONDERS]

All Highways should be Eight Lane.

[@TMBpk]

@@DINESH1983WONDERSno make it 20 lanes…that’ll solve everything. Just like how giving alcoholics more alcohol solves everything.

[@jeffwindrim975]

@ more highways just means more cars on the road that doesn’t solve any of the problems the issue is to build more public transportation and get some of the cars off the roadway

[@anthonysaunders345]

It should also be extended to the east, at least to Scarborough Town Centre. Right now it just ends at Don Mills and doesn't connect to anything.

[@jeffwindrim975]

@ your right it made no sense where they stopped the line at that time. I guess we will have to wait another decade before we see anything finished and where they decide to go with it

[@since1986-t9k]

No cars are made in Toronto bud the rav4 is made in kitchener

[@steveciancone8941]

Bud, he said in the Greater Golden Horseshoe area not Toronto specifically. Kitchener is in the GGH area 😂

[@winstonsmith1222]

Vehicles are certainly made in Oakville and in the GTA Think Oshawa Many automotive parts are made in Metro Toronto

[@amazingdecks1]

Line one is already overloaded so let's extend it to increase volume. Makes sense to me.

[@July1st1867]

1:15 Thats not York Region, Vaughan and Markham are York Region. The area you pointed out is the former city of york

[@PWingert1966]

The Ontario line is already behind schedule and 127 million over budget. Projected completion time based on estimates using AI tools utilising construction data from the other three lines suggests it will open in 2040 and be several billion dollars over budget. The other three lines are or have been mired in legal disputes with the PPP private partners costing millions f dollars. It almost appears part of a strategic plan to ensure the consortiums maximise their revenues.

[@jj.1412]

Ai Bot channel outing itself less than 2 min: 'Toronto the Capital of Ontario Province" ..and me, likely training it by responding 😅.

[@fortythreenorth2518]

RIP Science Centre!

[@RaviA-n5u]

Subway network gets connection to small cities like Vaughan and Richmond hill, but they never connecting it to Mississauga or Brampton, the biggest cities of GTA after Toronto…

[@yazdani3289]

Toronto subway is the most depressing part of Toronto.

[@davidcheung8595]

I am 57. I believe I won't live to see any changes, and I doubt my son will.

[@barney6888]

My dad took pictures of the Yonge St subway when it was under construction. I'm 68 now and i've watched cherahnuh grow into what it is now. One thing I can say is.. I hate I hate I hate trying to crawl out of downtown traffic. It's not that it's 2 hours to travel 8 miles, it's the BMW driver who insists in driving in the opposite lane for the sole reason to cut me off because I look like a stupid, old, fat Irish guy in a Kia. NEVER, EVER yield to a BMW driver.

[@98rolyaTnaeS]

Lol that's not York Region

[@mcibus2000]

How about avid on Ottawa's LRT?

[@STLUCIANIDOL91]

1:15 the map points at the wrong York. The map points at the former city of York, which has amalgamated into the mega city of Toronto in 1998. Your script references York Region, which, based on the map, includes Woodbridge, Vaughan, Concord, Richmond Hill, Thornhill, Unionville, Markham, and others not included in this map.

[@GingerKiwiDev]

Multiple the wait for each line by at least 2. So if a line is supposed to be built in 7 years it will most likely take 14 years. ... The Eglinton Crosstown is currently 5 years behind schedule and won't open for another year ... maybe. Also the new lines are not gap free. So I will still have to board and exit the trains backward in my wheelchair to prevent my front wheels getting caught in the gap and pitching me out of my chair. ... Liverpool has mini ramps that deploy at every door making every station both step free and gap free. BTW GO Trains are pronounced "Go" not "G.O". "Yonge" is pronounced "Young". Spadina is pronounced "Spa Dine Ah". UP Express is "Up" not "U.P.".

[@trainglen22]

Doubtful that it will relieve traffic on the Don Valley Parkway. Can't count how many mistakes the AI made. And the 413 should not be built.

[@normpaulsen5775]

I have to disagree, we need the 413.

[@trainglen22]

@normpaulsen5775 I don't understand why destroying wetlands and farm land for another highway and more urban sprawl will help Ontario.

[@scottnorris1615]

I just showed up to simply comment on how STUPID THE TITLE IS. The only truly bold move Toronto made was to watch it's population skyrocketing and NOT build mass transit - bold and stupid. The mismanagement by decades worth of politicians is the only thing worse than the title. Politicians... I am continuously impressed by how inadequate their education and understanding of simple concepts is.

[@djhrecordhound4391]

These AI videos suck. Why start off highlighting the Niagara Region, when nothing will ever be done for the area?

[@DavidHalverson]

plans are being developed to link the entire Golden Horseshoe with a transit network that stretches from City of Toronto to Niagara Falls, Ontario that uses either GO transit or a dedicated subway and LRT network that will not require the passenger to have to deal with any transfers while on route. One tap (PRESTO) to get on the vehicle in Toronto and one tap to get off in Niagara Falls when your trip is completed on the same vehicle. We could see a dedicated tunnel from the Toronto lakeshore going under Lake Ontario and ending near to if not inside the City of Niagara Falls, Ontario.

[@djhrecordhound4391]

@DavidHalverson Two major factors have left Niagara behind... 1. The tracks running through Niagara are owned by one of the freight companies. Track maintenance and passenger services are far below their priorities. 2. The Welland Canal. Ships have right-of-way over all other vehicles, including trains. The mainline only crosses the canal in one spot. If a bridge is raised, a Go Train is delayed...no if's and's or but's. The idea of a tunnel getting built under Lake Ontario is nice, and I wouldn't oppose it, but it would be more realistic and cheaper if a rail tunnel or bridge bypasses the Welland Canal instead. Go's "experimental" bus route along the QEW is getting closer to two decades old now. That's about as reliable as Go can get for the Niagara Peninsula right now, and there's currently no other choice but to transfer to/from a train in Burlington. Also, that Go bus only serves the north of the Niagara Region along the QEW, and we must rely on a wonky regional transit bus service to get to the southern cities. You're most likely going to be stuck (or stranded) outdoors at a small terminal, with no idea if schedules are running correctly.

[@stevynmykelz]

York and York Region are two very different places.

[@emekao]

@2:45 "Since the Trains are fully automated, it will reduce the need for excessive labor..." Excessive labor???,... This is just code for sending more train operators to the unemployment line.

[@ItisMoody]

Why use AI to voice over is always a puzzling question to me! Just record with your own VOICE!

[@InADarkTavern]

The highways will not solve traffic, only increase capacity and gridlock all interchanges

[@DrewK-e2i]

This reads like an advertisement, how much did the government pay you for this production?

[@awesomeman116a]

9:35 WHY SAY IT LIKE THAT😭

[@kathyt416]

This city in general is always for sale...with things every other city had 25 years ago. Give us a break.

[@PWingert1966]

Yet our premier Doug Ford cancelled the Eglington East LRT. This leaves Scarborough using busses for transit for at least the next 25 years until the city of Toronto, independently of the province designs and builds the LRT without the province's assistance using a special levy to gather the billions of dollars needed to build the LRT the service in the east most areas of Scarborough not served by the new Scarborough subway. Right now, there is insufficient demand based on the current bus ridership to justify the LRT in the Province's opinion, and it will take a decade for housing to develop in sufficient quantity to change this. Scarborough is viewed by the premier as a welfare ghetto holding mostly people on welfare and on disability who really don't want transit or else they would get a job somewhere else, according to the premier.

[@ItisMoody]

“Line one is one of the busiest in Toronto” - I love how this makes me feel like Toronto has dozens of subway lines 😂😂😂 dude it IS THE busiest lol (and only one of two real lines tbh…!) Also you kinda forgot about the +5 year delay in the Eglinton Crosstown (you’re the only one who calls it line 5 btw) And what’s up with cheering for HW 413?!!!! NO ONE wants that or needs it!!!

[@TurboLingaLanguages]

"If you own a car, there's a good chance that it was made in the GTA." Fact check... so the GTA makes about a million cars per year, out of a total world production of about 80 million. So, a "good chance" equates to a roughly 1.3% chance, does it? I suspect there's a much higher chance that AI wrote this video's script? Poor.

[@aviation300x]

So many errors in this video, do some proper research, at least get the names right.

[@eldeluxo]

So automated trains with glass platform doors have already been in cities like Kuala Lumpur for almost 20 years. People in Toronto don't realize that we are really far behind, and have horrible slow moving goverment run by very stupid people.

[@aknightstale2248]

LOL Long point is not part of the GTA

[@chingo3625]

Take a deeper look at how backward Toronto is when you venture out to Eastern Asia.

[@KarenThomas-z7m]

Great analysis, thank you! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@sc0tte1-416]

2031 my asssss, 2040 maybe....

[@eshep71]

No one wants a subways under their house, but it's not about the people of today. Can't let the selfish disrail this

[@ropro9817]

Lol, I'll believe it when I see it! 😂

[@binhquocma1032]

❤❤love to hear about the new..hopefully I can see it on my lifetime..😂

[@raymondbennett6793]

Waste of money.

[@bigjubes111]

Why dont talk about the Eglinton Crosstown? How may years delay. Supposed to open in November. Still doing tests. Being over budget? What a joke. This line supposed to serve Scarborough? Why then it doesnt gonto the Scarborough city limits? 😅 Planning is a joke.

[@brianliu522]

Too late, too slow

[@vstylie]

Go, not G.O. Yonge in pronounced Young. East/west and north/south, not horizontal and vertical. Come on!

[@johnbee7729]

Nice video, except for the AI narration. The Gee Oh train? hmmmmmm And GAWD, Toronto is the capital of Ontario, a big city, but it is NOT all of Canada. As a Canadian not living in Toronto I will not be gaining any benefit fromthese. I am starting to really hate AI - wish that KZbin would put an AI logo on AI videos. Grrrr

[@JerryBrentnell-x9z]

if ontario had any brains they would buy back the 407 and make it a truck route to get trucks off the 401for the most part that are not stopping in the GTAand take the tolls off it !to get long haul trucks to use it and ontario needs some more modern truck stops where drivers can stop and rest !and get decent food to eat not fast food crap if the states can do it why cant they do it here!

[@awesomeman116a]

10:26 More highways are not the solution to prevent gridlock, it will just encourage more people to drive instead of taking transit!

[@prajav9865]

he has it the other way they come down town to suk imigrants off

[@ShawnLincoln360]

I can't stand ai videos... So lazy.

[@BeardedPilot]

In regards to funding, there is no shortage... how about stop sending money to Ukraine and Is(not)real for wars and actually spend it within the country......................

[@Peeta-wn4hh]

Generally speaking Canada doesn’t send money to Ukraine. The majority of the money is allocated to the Canadian defence industry which manufactures materiel for Ukraine. The money supports Canadian manufacturing.

[@alfredmajor428]

Time paying back taxpayer dollars cover trillion s of dollars back pay off debt now all levels of government. Off trillions of debt