Install Sail Shades Like a Pro

[@flubby1982]

Just wanted to leave a comment that I spent 2 months researching the best way to put up large sail in my garden and this is without a doubt the best. The references for where to put posts and the hardware were fantastic. Super concise and helpful as well.

[@danrockwell1883]

Glad you liked the video!!!

[@lynnettecardinal406]

​@@danrockwell1883 do you know who i am?

[@kallyxiongofficialchannel5020]

Very nice.. love it..

[@rudyk5657]

I was gonna do the same, months of research. However I didn’t know the same of “sail shades”. After seeing this comment & this video I’m super confident. Thank you both.

[@santsmartinez7513]

@@danrockwell1883how about putting a 2x6 in those big planters with concrete. Do you think that would be strong enough?

[@rustythrombosis5417]

Quick, concise, to the point, and informative, all with no silly intro, no obnoxious background music, or inane special effects. Plus, you made me feel stupid, too. I know all about turnbuckles. Used them for fences a hundred times. Never dawned on me to use them like this. Coupled with some springs to protect the sail if it gets gusty… dare I say genius? You found a new sub. Don’t change your format, just hit us with the knowledge.

[@danrockwell1883]

Really appreciate the comment! I don’t have the most entertaining personality so I can’t have too much fluff haha

[@tysoon4807]

Awesome comments. My sentiments exactly! When a video starts out like Martha Stewart Living I scroll.

[@vvcnursingschool6362]

​@@danrockwell1883 what company did you go through to purchase your set up? Do they help you plan what you need?

[@ortegalester]

Thank you for the spring idea. I did this to mine and I got all the tension I needed to stretch the sails. I live in Florida so we’ll see what happens in those rainy and windy days.

[@michaelharveymusic]

How has it been with the wind so far?

[@jan_vyhnak]

Do I have back yard? No. Do I need sail shade? No. Still enjoyed the whole video and learned some useful stuff.

[@danrockwell1883]

Well I’m glad you like the content! Working on my bathroom remodel, will have several videos coming soon

[@AllieY96]

This was the first video I clicked on and you answered literally every question I had lol

[@matthewbarwin4271]

Same

[@streetconstruction541]

Great video. I would use pressure treated 4x6s or 6x6s though. The Douglas fur with spar urethane won't last too long especially underground. Use the pressure treated wood and wrap the part underground with synthetic felt or a good window tape for around new windows. I built my 50x35 garage this way. 3 ft deep at least

[@threeblackburn]

This was incredibly informative and clear. I appreciate the crap out of this. Struggling to figure out the best way to do this in my back yard. Problem freaking solved. Thank you. Excellent content.

[@danrockwell1883]

Thank you Trey! Glad it helped!

[@nalvarado65]

So im just going to throw something at the interwebs and face the consequences. I put up shade sails in the back yard for a graduation party and expected to take them down after a season. Did it on the cheap and this is what I learned. Four by fours, while not the best are actually a pretty good option for posts if done correctly. They will bow towards the sails after awhile because of the tension but its not the end of the world. If you angle the posts away from the sails to about two or three feet between the sail clip ends and the posts you should have plenty of room for bowing. It actually looks nice and and there is a good reason to do this. Seal and stain the posts before sinking them. They will last a good while and being free standing, not a big deal to replace if need be. mine have been in the ground for four years now and im having no problems. We were going to take the shades down after the season but kept them up because we liked them. I didnt buy special hardware for the sails. I did buy inexpensive boat winches from amazon. I connected the winches about chest high on the posts, ran the straps through an I bolt at the top of the posts, clipped the end of the winch strap to the shade sail corners, and cranked tension when needed. When storms came in the shades were down in five minutes and back up even faster when they passed. That is I took them down when I thought about it, sometimes. These things take a beating and I'm continuously surprised by they're resilience. The great thing about the boat winches is that you can always adjust the tension to keep rhe sails taught. Because the 4x4 posts were cheap and what I thought a temporary party solution I may have made them too snug in their position to the sails. We replanted them two years ago to be further out and now everything is pretty cool. They creak in the breeze in the evenings and rhat makes them worth putting up in my opinion. Like i said, what was to be temporary is turning into permanent. The fly by night set up is turning into a happy accident. I didnt think this would last a season let alone become a fixture in our back yard. Don't over think it. You'd be surprised how well the set I did works.

[@nalvarado65]

Just in case anyone asks, I bought 600 pound winches for around twenty bucks each. The sails I have are 27 foot triangular. I live in the Great lakes region where the weather can be as brutal as it can get as far as summer heat, winter freezing, lake effect snow, ice, and wind. Nothing lasts here. I look out my window and there they are.

[@mre4875]

One of the few, caught me off guard, full on, laugh out loud moments I have ever encountered watching YT videos. I applaud you Sir!

[@danrockwell1883]

Thank you!

[@garrettgiuffre7298]

Tension helps the shade live longer. Tensioned correctly reduces the movement from wind. Movement is what destroy the shade

[@danrockwell1883]

Absolutely

[@joycehubka140]

Great information Dan and important suggestions for using cables, tighteners and springs. We have had Shade Sails for 15 years and we purchased the best Shade Sails made by Coolaroo. They are put up every May and taken down in October. Colorado winters are such that they would be ruined by the weight of the snow and ice. 6X6 posts or larger are necessary here where winds are above 50 mph at times. Jerry

[@mowingministry3577]

here at the Virginia coast, our neighbor's 6x6 wood post broke off at the base. now i'm researching metal posts...

[@Imwright720]

I used 2” well pipe 20’ for 2 attachments and the house for 2. Then I mounted hand cranks like on a boat trailer. Pulls it right up and the tensions easily adjusted. Maybe I will add in a spring for when it gets windy. All attachments can be made from the ground then cranked up. Easy peasy.

[@danrockwell1883]

I like to work harder rather than smarter

[@REVNUMANEWBERN]

I'd like to see that setup

[@lauralossie3893]

I planned to attach my sail to my house for 2 corners, the other 2 to medal rod concreted into a large planter. Will this work in 15-20mph wind? Or do I need 4x6’s?

[@Nonyabusiness911]

I dont think so. The pole is basically a giant lever. My first set up used 2" diameter fence pipe. Its about 3/32" thick and one of the bent in half. Since i switched to well pipe which is twice as thick and thats over a year ago. Plenty if wind and all is good. I did break a couple of cheap connectors but replaced those with quality ones

[@FranzStrasse]

Somewhere "out there" I saw a video (not yours) that showed using springs at the corners. Of course, I could not find it again and about a weeks worth of Google searching did not turn up anything about what kind of springs to use or what they were called or where to buy them. Then I searched YT for "solar sun sail spring" and BOOM, this was the first hit. With a handy link to a porch swing. Now I can add those to my shopping list. Thank you very much!

[@danrockwell1883]

Glad you found them! Absolutely!

[@scramtour7294]

Thank you for this, VERY helpful & my wife enjoyed looking at your muscles😂

[@criaturiya]

😂

[@LabelRider_113]

Take a shot every time Dan says “sail shade” then go get to work on your own! Another awesome one man. So glad i stumbled on your channel.

[@danrockwell1883]

🤣

[@labab1048]

No thanks on the shot of poison

[@LabelRider_113]

@@labab1048 🙄

[@labab1048]

@@LabelRider_113 it is though for too many. Gave it up nearly 4 years ago and it’s liberating for sure.

[@grim_bbx2241]

Its crazy what a little bit of hard work and simple tools can do for you.

[@danrockwell1883]

Absolutely bro!

[@Gabe94dotcom]

True!

[@apryle9228]

Omg this is the best video by far that I’ve found. You’re very thorough. I’ve had someone attempt to install mine and has failed miserably.. twice 😒. I’m doing it myself this time 😎👷🏻‍♀️.

[@danrockwell1883]

You got it!!

[@Gabe94dotcom]

Lol you can do it!

[@divineretreatss]

Same here!!

[@tonyb7748]

I spent some time with one of the United States wealthiest investors that lives in Berwyn PA. He had a gigantic sail shade (probally 60'x80') and it was drawn taught with an electric winch system. I suppose the avid DIY crowd could do the same. The corners were anchored to concrete buildings and lanscape features but the midddle "bridle loop" -like with a parachute- was raised into the air via stainless winch cable to an outrigger with a pulley. Very clean install and easy to take down for replacement . Bonus nachos- he also has a flexible misting system attached to it to further reduce the temperature but not soak guests.

[@KC-jq9kw]

Thank you. Nice video. We are just putting up a shade over our grand kids play area in our back yard and it had been too long since I lived in Arizona and put one up there.

[@danrockwell1883]

You’re welcome!

[@armandocardona6975]

pro tip use small ratchet straps to tie off two points. I would ratchet a click once a month for 3 month as the sail shade stretched in the sun.

[@danrockwell1883]

Great tip

[@Hybridog]

Good info, let me add to it. A three foot hole and concrete is not enough for those poles if you live in a area with strong winds - and really, who doesn't? Four feet minimum for something like this that is under constant tension. Also, with soft sandy soil like he shows in the video, go deep as you can. I used those ratcheting cargo straps to easily pull the shade sail tight. You can get plenty of tension and it's very safe.

[@danrockwell1883]

Thanks for the insight!

[@KB-mw4zf]

Great tutorial!!! Quick question..do you have a brand or recommend what to look for in a sunshade that would be exposed to extremely high winds? Appreciate your time! Kat

[@garrettgiuffre7298]

Getting the spring out of the bmw 7 series trunk from junkyard or picknpull is perfect

[@danrockwell1883]

There you go!

[@laurahillenbrand1828]

Great tutorial! Can you recommend an alternative porch spring? The one you linked to isn't available anymore.

[@JimJohnson-x7o]

Awesome tutorial! Probably already stated, however, make sure to let the treated wood dry before applying stain.

[@danrockwell1883]

Yes I waited a few months. Good tip

[@lachutequimarche8074]

A rare perfect tutorial! Thank you.

[@greginfla_1]

Great video/production/microphone/voice.…. you sounded like a professional canopy installer.

[@danrockwell1883]

Thank you!

[@brandone6252]

Love how you said common sense lot of people don’t have that

[@danrockwell1883]

Very true

[@MsOSheDidIt]

Great idea for any hot spots. I love the details! You're so amazing with the details and it looks great. I really do need one of those too 👍

[@EDAHSC]

Springs are a good idea, thanks. I bought the triangle, looks great, doesn't give nearly as much shade as a 4 sided sail shade. So what to do, but a second triangle shape.

[@danrockwell1883]

That would be a good option :)

[@colettejohnson945]

Nicely done. Concise is the way I like my info. Nothing hinky or rigged.

[@danrockwell1883]

Thank you!

[@juanflorez1644]

Awesome. Thank you for the ideas. I just did two pergolas with 4x4’s, 2x4’s and polycarbonate sheets from Home Depot. I have to do another one at another property and will instead do the posts and a sail shade.

[@danrockwell1883]

Good plan and thank you! Glad you liked the video

[@shannonkingston224]

I just a ratchet strap to help with the connection. Ratchet it back to hold. Did the same with my daughters zip line.

[@danrockwell1883]

Great suggestion

[@guillaumepare9651]

Good idea. Problem I can see is sometimes they can be a bit noisy. Also, they can eventually rust. Consider climbing rope. They have some elasticity (on purpose).

[@danrockwell1883]

Wouldn’t be a bad idea to give them a shot

[@AlamLotfi-md5up]

شكرا جدا . فكرة مميزة و مشروحة بكل التفاصيل و الإخلاص. بارك الله فيكم ❤😊

[@danrockwell1883]

Thank you! Glad you liked it

[@gabbyserna7025]

Wow nice i need one of those over the pool😀🏖🏖

[@VandDaisy]

Hi, Thanks for the video and great information. I live in the valley too. How did the way you installed your sail hold up in monsoon season - was the tension tight enough or too tight in the strong winds? I watched one video that said to have the post at a little bit of an angle away from the direction the tension will be pulling towards. Do you think that would have been helpful or not necessary? Thank you

[@danrockwell1883]

They held up great, it’s been 3 years and I very happy with how it’s been. Just make sure you get strong turn buckles

[@danrockwell1883]

You can angle it but i didn’t

[@buffalosierramtb7580]

Awesome video! Really made putting it up seem like a less daunting task!

[@danrockwell1883]

Glad you liked it!!

[@hap1n355]

I use Coolaroo premium sun shades due to they have a 15 yr warranty. The cheaper brands may hold up for 5 years but the color will fade. I also use Cam buckes straps d/t when its cold the shade shrinks but when the sun hits for 2 hrs while up and sagging I then pull on the Cam buckle to stretch all out. Its also very easy to adjust with the Cam buckle and very easy to take down which I do during the rainy season. Those springs look great but to much work for me. Adios

[@danrockwell1883]

Good info, I’m surprised on how well these Amazon ones have help up, 3yrs strong so far. I’ll have to try that trick to get them tighter easier!

[@ymawombat]

@hap1n355: Are the Cam buckles the same as these “CamJam Cord Tighteners”? (i’ll try to attach a pic). I was going to attach these to screw eyes (3/4 in x 3) and then use diamond braided polypropylene cord to connect the shades to the CamJam buckles. Now I’m second guessing my entire plan while some of my newly-bought poor plants are getting scorched by the South Florida heat/sun. They were fine a month or two ago, but now, the sun combined with the heat is just too much for them. A penny for your thoughts?

[@ymawombat]

And after reading a response to a customer review, I realized that this particular camjam product is not weight rated. However, apparently the XT version is weight rated to 280 lbs. looks like I will be going back to Home Depot; or just go the route that is recommended by you or Dan. I should have question my options when I had gone to a different Home Depot and found the hook tighteners in the same section of the sales shades that Dan uses in the video. But I didn’t want to start over. I may end up keeping some of these cord tighteners for other uses, as they seem to be extremely versatile. I’ll see if I can find a link to the XT version and I’d still like your opinion on that one.

[@Uncle-P2600]

brilliant. very helpful! good sense of humor too. I'll look for 4x6x12 then.

[@danrockwell1883]

Glad you liked it!

[@robreichjr]

How did 12 ft work for you?

[@anagongs6353]

Hi- I need this for the side of my house- the sun is hitting that wall - my space is 49’ long by 13’ wide- this is the most economical way- you speak about space, I do t think I have much- what size sail should I buy? I am thinking of attaching to home and then to 4x6 like you recommend- should I get 3 sails? Help days are starting to get hot - thanks for this video!!!

[@grotemuis4889]

Cool, I wish I had seen this before I got the sail shade, I would have stuck with an umbrella 🥵 This job is growing by leaps, handy persons we are not. Emphasize NOT. Now we have to borrow, rent a trailer, return and exchange the wrong hardware, borrow/buy a posthole digger, schedule a weekend for a cuss job and a half and.... by the time it's done it is winter. The airconditioned house starts to look mighty fine.

[@erickzelaya9372]

Hello Can it be even on anchoring across or does it need a slant for rain ? So it won’t slag in the middle ?

[@danrockwell1883]

Probably should. Have a little slope but they aren’t water proof. Water should go through them and for good reason. I wouldn’t stress if there’s no slope just don’t get a waterproof one lol

[@gismoscherer]

Yes springs, that’s a great idea… Do you use springs at just 2 corners, or at all 4 ends?

[@danrockwell1883]

The more the better. I used them at all 4 spots

[@evangelistakevinmoreno]

Spectacular, where can I buy the wood? What dimensions should I buy it has to be able to adapt it with the supports for pergola?

[@danrockwell1883]

Thank you! Lowes or home depot, you can get 4x4. I got 12ft on top to make it big then 10ft high

[@robertjames-life4768]

Springs are the key- I’ve had sails that have been through some serious winds and are still up.

[@danrockwell1883]

Absolutely

[@nickinator5423]

Thanks so much. First video I could find that clearly discussed post dimensions. You stated a 10x10 likely needs minimum 12x12. I'm considering a 16x20 sail...Is 22.6' between rafter posts sufficient for the 20' side??

[@danrockwell1883]

That should be perfect :)

[@boknows8936]

Looks great, inhave a 14x14 deck off the backdoor. Nothing to really attach it to as is. Dont want to drill into house 🤔 hopefully i can figure something out 😵‍💫

[@ItchyKneeSon]

Very nice! A couple things I'd add: 1) treat any wood below ground with wood preservative 2) use a mixing tub and a garden hose to mix the concrete. (Home Renovision just released a video a few days ago on doing this with a concrete walk path.)

[@adamrodriguez8053]

Nice video. Thinking about making a carport like this. Where did you get the sail? I need a 16x16 approx.

[@danrockwell1883]

Amazon :) I believe I have a link in description of video

[@DBGamer_eh]

I like your approach, well done!

[@blackhouse7646]

I have a concrete around my pool and i was hoping you can tell me what can i use to expand the length/ tension of the shade sail? I will need a lot of those springs or is there something else i could you to have length?

[@tamrawindsor8583]

I use ratchet straps to get them in place and then swap out for turn buckles and chain.

[@danrockwell1883]

Smart

[@romeparrilla8307]

wow thanks for the real nice learning video,i want one,i have a question,what will be the actual weight on the material 18x18 sail shade???thanks again......

[@sarahmountain2222]

Definitely best part of this tutorial was digging out the post hole. 1:07 😋

[@karthik17india]

Terrific video. To the point. No BS. Love it. Good luck bro!

[@quantumtechcrypto7080]

The hardware stores will cut chain to your length or you can get cables made or make them yourself it’s super easy and cheap.

[@danrockwell1883]

good advice

[@papajoeknows8355]

Excellent video. Very informative and well done. 👍🏻

[@danrockwell1883]

Glad you liked it!

[@mark-angelofamularcano237]

We’ve been planning to do this on our driveway to act as a shade for ourselves and parked cars. I guess our biggest worry is the wind. Would staggered triangle pieces help lessen the chance of catching strong wind? We are aware that we need more than one if we do that. And our winds can uproot old and large trees 😬 Will it make a difference if we go for triangles instead of a big rectangle? Thank you for this vid!

[@pasztoradam1988]

I asked my colleagues, and couple of relatives i know, they are all round have good knowledge about things around the house and what lasts, what not, but i got comments these shadea might not be too durable, whats your opinion? Cause im set for making this in our garden, i freaking love it, im just hoping it last a couple of years at least and it can withstand some wind and rain as well. Thanks

[@danrockwell1883]

just look for one on amazon with good reviews. The sail shade itself isn't that expensive, just all the other stuff is a lot of work and that should last a decade or more.

[@GodsGreenPlanet]

Looks great. Definitely protect the wood which is in the concrete. Concrete holds moisture and will rot out even pressure treated pretty fast depending on climate and water table.

[@howlinbeagle]

Looks like he's in the desert, bone dry!!

[@wisdomspitter7688]

I’m going with 3 telephone poles @ 20 to 22’ tall. I suspect the tension will cause a plumb post to move over time hence a phone pole and 3-4’ concrete seated base.

[@danrockwell1883]

Go big or go home! Love it

[@chelseagarrett7142]

Awesome video! I'm thinking I'm doing something like this to provide a little privacy around my pool area. The extra shade is nice, but I need it more for privacy When I bought the place a few years ago, there was nothing but wooded areas in my backyard Now an entire housing development is being built. As luck would have it, a double story house is directly in my line of sight. I'd like to use these sails as a way of providing year round privacy. without being blocked in by walls. Do you know if the canvas or material will hold up year round?

[@elmoblatch9787]

It will not hold up year round, but you can always replace it.

[@hadenayers1268]

Any idea if I can make this work with a rain tarp? I’d like to be able to sit on my deck while it’s raining outside.

[@danrockwell1883]

It’d be tough because it’d likely hold water you’d need it really tight

[@barbcook7]

Quick questions-1. Can you use long cable wires to connect to a house? 2. Can a sunshade be temporary- and only put up on days you need it, but take down when you don’t?

[@usispals1]

Question. When mounting the poles, did you mount them perfectly vertical or at an angle to account for some pole bending?

[@danrockwell1883]

I just did vertical, I figure using a 4x6 you should be fine as long as you dig your hole deep enough

[@DJLinMusic345]

Can you give details of the brand of this sun shade? And where it can be purchased

[@85gmc44]

Is exspanding foam a suitable substitute for concrete? Please advise using a 20x20 sail & 4x6 wood post.

[@danrockwell1883]

Why not use concrete?

[@rebeccaconaway4533]

Expanding foam is awesome and unlike concrete the post won’t rot over time.

[@kimlucero4630]

That looks great and it also looks like the house I had in Phoenix. You’re not in Phoenix by chance? Thanks for the video!

[@danrockwell1883]

Thank you! I'm in Scottsdale

[@fixtaurus]

Great video thank you for sharing. I think we are both in Arizona. Any suggestion on where to buy the sail ?

[@danrockwell1883]

Yup AZ! I got mine from Amazon

[@spinecollector9931]

Hey how did you install the sail shade on top of the post? Did you just screw an eye hook at the top end?

[@WeOnAMission]

Thanks for the info. I am going to install one this summer.

[@danrockwell1883]

You got it! Goodluck!

[@simplysuzyt]

Does the rain run off or go through it? I know some are permeable but wasn’t sure it it needed to be sloped or I could leave it flat.

[@danrockwell1883]

You definitely want it permeable so water can run through it

[@tedk2166]

It’s not wise to use wood, it will bow in time and if you do , don’t install it level, lean it back a few degrees, as it will pitch in due to ground settling. I used steel 4 x 4’s that were 5/16th’s thick and painted before installing. They’ve been there for 13 years and look great. Also only buy steel perimeter cable style shades, the dark colors like brown block the most heat. Use short lengths of stainless chain links to take up slack. Use a ratchet strap to tension and set load.

[@davidhicejr476]

I think you meant plumb

[@Holodomor4.0]

Sick hand signal bro 👌

[@danrockwell1883]

Thank you

[@JarrettLemke]

How long do those 4x6s usually last? Was thinking about using steel square tube instead of wood since wood is likely to bend over time.

[@danrockwell1883]

Not sure. I’m guessing up to 10 years if taken care of. (Stain, paint, etc)

[@rashidshakoor7982]

How do you shorten the steel rope to your desired length?

[@danrockwell1883]

Cut and crimp

[@mertomikron6350]

Hi! Thanks for the video. How big is this sail?

[@danrockwell1883]

The big one is like 26x15

[@MrIMacro]

Thanks, but what about strong wind? I mean very strong wind almost everyday, Is it going to hold up?

[@danrockwell1883]

Holds up to the AZ monsoons. Buy upgraded turn buckles though, not the cheap ones the sale shade will likely come with

[@gabbymemes4467]

We definitely need shade here in vegas 😂 i need one it gets 118 here too🙏🏻❤

[@JimPatModglin]

How many inches do you recommend between the high and low side of the sun shade?

[@danrockwell1883]

It's all preference. I would experiment. More than you'd think so try to make the highest point as high as you can so you can have a big difference from high to low.

[@benofalltrades]

How does a setup like this deal with heavy winds? I live in a very windy area

[@danrockwell1883]

Extremely well. Just have to upgrade the turnbuckles from the ones they’ll give you with the sail shade, I’ve had some of them fail but since upgrading, it’s stayed up during several monsoon seasons here in AZ.

[@benofalltrades]

@@danrockwell1883 awesome thank you for responding!

[@jgarvin6]

If you put these in planters with cement will it be heavy enough?

[@danrockwell1883]

Not if you want a lot of tension. I thought about it too.

[@evabobeva77]

So I’m watching this and I like the idea of the porch swing springs. Glad to know my choice to use 4x6 posts was the right choice. But I need clarification on something: you go into detail on how to hook the spring to the pad eye in the corner where you had to use two springs due to miscalculating the distance, but you don’t explain how you hooked the porch spring to the pad eyes in the other corners without the additional spring. The porch swing spring doesn’t appear to have an open end. Do you just use some heavy duty s hooks there?

[@danrockwell1883]

Yeah just buy some quick links

[@evabobeva77]

@@danrockwell1883I ended up using 1/8” cable with crimps to connect the spring to the shade, and then used the turnbuckle between the spring and the pad eye. I was thinking too hard and forgot about the turnbuckle.

[@donyemonroe4577]

By far beat sun shade video thus far

[@danrockwell1883]

Thank you so much

[@InCombatDaily]

I ordered a 12x24 on amazon and im using 6x6 posts. Do you think it would be more effcient to bolt through the post with an eye bolt or are those screw mounted ring mounts enough? Seems like a lot of stress for a few screws to hold over time

[@danrockwell1883]

Use 3 inch screws, that’ll be more than enough :)

[@BM-ms3gr]

Excellent vid thanks for sharing 😊

[@fortyfour6626]

Dude! Thank you! I’m pretty mechanical and… old lol so I’ve done just about everything. Having said that, never put up a sail shade. Bought one surprisingly inexpensive on Amazon and it’s a gorgeous turquoise. I bought it because the Tampa heat and UV is ripping ass on my Lexus leather and paint job. This house only has a nice carport but I use that for other things and can’t park my car in it. Anyway if you can imagine a rectangle house with a smaller rectangle carport on the front…. I bought a triangle shade to basically buy me a bit of cover for my car in the hottest part of the day. I bought the adjustable screws, a concrete anchor ( one point is going into cinder block) and 3 eye plates all beefy enough rated at 350 pounds. What I didn’t get is the springs! Damn! That’s brilliant! I saved a few springs from an old 12 foot trampoline the kids used. They are in visually fine shape. I don’t know what weight they are rated at but the coils are about 2-3 inch diameter and about 6 inches long. Before I go to ACE and let them rape my wallet for springs… in your opinion, you think those would work? Oh, the safe is 12x12x17… a long triangle which will fit nicely. ???? Thanks for making the video. Right to the points and we’ll shot. Easy to watch all the way through!

[@douglastrujillo9152]

Backyard looks great! What base did you use around the turf?

[@danrockwell1883]

Just pavers set in cement. Thank you!!

[@ericshufro8150]

Can wire cables be used? 6ft too long? a 10x13 shade can anchor to the house, but then needs 6ft to run-out to where i might hang lights as well. Thoughts?

[@danrockwell1883]

Only one way to find out haha id go for it, just make sure it’s secured nice and get it tight, use a spring too

[@rubenalaniz7761]

I love it ..I need to get me one for my backyard..

[@danrockwell1883]

Absolutely and thank you!

[@rubenalaniz7761]

@@danrockwell1883 you welcome and have a great day 🙏

[@ryanblumish9791]

Great video. Question: if I'm mounting 2 corners to the house and want to get the shade as close as possible, what hardware would I use (or opt out) so I dont have a 2-4ft gap from house to sail?

[@ItchyKneeSon]

Just a small spring and turn buckle? Make sure you know what you're fastening to. Maybe even add reinforcement lumber. You can preserve wood exposed to the elements with a penetrating sealer or deck stain. Of you want it to last long, get everything cut, holes drilled, etc. and take it off to get 3 good coats in all the nooks and crannies. Let it dry and cure. Then mount it and recoat it bi- or tri-annually, just as you would with a deck.

[@nopeunlimited]

Use a product like red guard to water proof the wood that's sunk into the ground the wood will eventually rot if too much moisture gets to it.

[@danrockwell1883]

Wow I use red guard a lot for shower remodels (tile guy)… never thought of that

[@danrockwell1883]

I’m in the desert so I don’t think I’ll do it but I plan on having a cabin in NY which I’ll definitely look into that route

[@ejdugan]

How many lbs of concrete per 12 ft post??

[@pasztoradam1988]

Do you think it would work the same, if i would install my posts on metal console thats cemented in the ground? Would it be able to support the lateral force the tension creates? I feel digging a 3 inch hole would be a lot more hassle.

[@danrockwell1883]

What do you mean by metal console brother?

[@pasztoradam1988]

Post support/base its called

[@evabobeva77]

We rented an auger for four hours to dig our holes. Cost $60 and we had four holes dug in an hour. Of course, I live in southern AZ, where the soil is hard and rocky.

[@mikewright3029]

what about wind? is there a danger of living in to windy an area. live in NY and we get a lot of windy days... can sometimes blow over umbrellas table. also are these waterproof enough?... could you stay under one in the rain and stay dry?

[@danrockwell1883]

Hey Mike. It’s very windy here too. You have to have strong supports. You don’t want them fully waterproof, they will pool up with water and break.

[@lot5953]

The legs that have black brackets, can I know what are they and where did you get them from?

[@danrockwell1883]

I believe link Is in bio. The ones I got are 50% the price of taja grid

[@lot5953]

@@danrockwell1883 Great! Thanks. I searched around on Amazon and found something similar

[@mommyhelen2017]

This is exactly what I needed!!!

[@danrockwell1883]

Glad it helped you!

[@mcse38]

I am about to do mine but would it be possible to install the post onto of the patio using post bases on all 4 corners? Thanks and love the idea with the swing springs and I am going to add that on all four corners.

[@johnbob4545]

The only problem I could see is the size of the shade, and if you can get one the right size.

[@mcse38]

@@johnbob4545 Thanks my shade is a 16'x12' which is a little smaller than my patio. My patio is 19'x14' and I was going to put the post on all corners to get a better stretch on the sail.

[@andrewfleming1795]

My concern would be if the post base can be a) anchored well enough to resist the tension and not pull out and b) provide enough depth so the post has something to push against when the sail is tensioned. The first issue is easy with the right concrete anchors but the next might be harder as most post bases I have seen are only a few inches tall and not designed to have something pulling laterally.

[@inculcatetobemaudlin2943]

Dude, That’s a awesome idea for the unbearable summer , especially during the killing heats season.

[@danrockwell1883]

Absolutely! And if you have artificial grass or lawn furniture, it’ll help protect it