Installing a Motorguide XI3 bow mount trolling motor on the Perception Outlaw 11.5

Installing a Motorguide XI3 bow mount trolling motor on the Perception Outlaw 11.5
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[@brianbishop1866]

Great install! Looks awesome. Very clean setup.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you, I really appreciate it.

[@BirdDogOutdoors]

Nice mods!! I’m definitely thinking about getting this yak! Keep the content coming!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you. I appreciate good feedback.

[@stevebaker8138]

Really nice build. Great job!!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you!! I really appreciate it.

[@Davidfca1]

amazing =) I just purchased the same kayak, because of your great videos. Thank you.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

You’re welcome, Thank you for watching.

[@patrickt1087]

Nice video. Definitely appreciate the detail on how to do the install with the mount. I currently have mine setup with a stern mount trolling motor using your prior videos. I have a foot steering system to control it with a pwm. It works great, but you do have to be seated to steer. I can set course and speed and fish standing up for a bit. I may eventually switch to a bow mount setup though. Thank you for the video and the details!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

You’re welcome. I use to have to sit down also with the stern mount trolling motor that was the reason I wanted to do a bow mount trolling motor. I appreciate you watching.

[@thesteadfastangler6724]

Thanks for taking the time to show us brother, looks great

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you for watching. I appreciate the kind feedback.

[@thesteadfastangler6724]

@@334tacticaloutdoors Brother I finally got my Xi3 this past weekend and referenced your videos for all my guidance getting it mounted and squared away. Looks great and was a breeze thanks to you.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

That’s awesome to hear. I’m glad my video was easy enough to understand and able to help. Thank you for letting me know.

[@kenestra123]

Your work is so very clean,nice to see such details to installs. You should start your own business!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you for the generous compliment.

[@dylanbell6767]

You are a life saver

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thanks, glad I could help you out.

[@emmettbowen4431]

After watching this is ditched the 30lb and went to a 55lb thrust. Thanks for the help!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Glad I could help. I appreciate you watching.

[@SavageFlies]

Great tutorial man. You’ve just convinced me to buy this boat. I’m going to play around without a motor for a while but good to see we have these options.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you. You will not be disappointed with your purchase. I have another modification I’ve added to this kayak, I’m hoping to have the video posted tomorrow if you wanna check back I believe it will make you enjoy the purchase more.

[@SavageFlies]

@@334tacticaloutdoors Absolutely; I definitely will! I think I’ll binge a few of your other videos tonight. 😁

[@SavageFlies]

@@334tacticaloutdoors And BTW, I just ordered it. Will be here next week!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@SavageFlies thanks I appreciate all the support. Thanks for subscribing.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@SavageFlies that’s awesome!!

[@freighttrain7143]

What's next is some Automatic Rod and Reel Controllers, and next thing you know, you just send the kayak out in the morning and by lunch, it comes back and brings you the fish.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Lol that might work for some, but I enjoy getting that bite way to much for me not to go.

[@Kilo31]

Nice video, thank you. I've watched so many other great videos showing how to mount on the rear but this looks closer to my technical level (I'm a computer guy mostly!) Looking forward to getting my kayak and something like this on it.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

You’re welcome, let me know if you need my advice while doing the install.

[@elizabethmarcum1456]

Where are you located?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Salem, Al

[@FishingWithGraham97]

Love the yak bro keep up the good work👍👍👍👍🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇👍👍👍👍

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you!! I appreciate it.

[@gillismartin328]

I think that is so cool

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you, I really appreciate it.

[@bradymeredith3528]

Yessss thank you sir

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I appreciate u watching. Thank you for the feedback.

[@Taxation_1776]

Nice work

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you, I really appreciate it.

[@bradleyrussell1973]

The installation of a rudder will improve its handling and turning. They are cheap, and easy to use and install on the Outlaw!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thanks for the info.

[@bretshivers8352]

subscribed! nicely done! i been trying to find an outlaw and there hard to find around here.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you. I appreciate you watching and the feedback. A lot of kayaks are getting hard to find.

[@jamiehov9350]

awesome build!!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you, I really appreciate it.

[@jamiehov9350]

was it hard to install the screws on the inside?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

It wasn’t to bad. Once you install the deck plate you can reach in there fairly easy.

[@jamiehov9350]

thanks for the replies! and this great video!! definitely going to save up for the equipment todo this to my outlaw. also with the fish finder do you have any glare issues with it being on the water?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@jamiehov9350 no the screen on the Garmin is fantastic and also easy to see even when the sun beaming on it.

[@Doublepain3]

I really love this video! What gauge wire did you use to run your trolling motor battery in the back? I've been looking into doing this for my outlaw and this is the best video I've found!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I recommend 8 gauge wire and 8gauge wire plugs. That’s what I run and I’ve never had any issues. Thank you and if you have any questions just let me know.

[@Glock-1]

That's the ultimate fishing kayak for sure,I bet all that together was expensive

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you, well the kayak was $825.00, trolling motor $689.00, fish finder $499.00, and battery and accessories $250.00 so all together this set-up is $2264.00. Just start little by little.

[@Tboville]

Great video! I wanna do the same thing with mine. Just wondering if you have a video on how you wired it to the battery through the hull

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I don’t have a video on it, but I have deck plates so when I drilled holes where the trolling motor plug is I just fished it through to the rear tank well where I had another hole drilled where my SAE connector was being placed. Now my wires are run through a 5/8” clear tubing to keep them dry and it makes it easy to push the wires from the bow to the stern.

[@paint3ball]

I’ve been looking for a video exactly like this. Thank you so much for your explanation of everything! Can’t wait to make mine just like yours! Does yours have the GPS function?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you for watching, I’m glad it has helped. When I first bought the trolling motor it didn’t have GPS I added it on later. And I can tell you it’s a great add on to this kayak.

[@paint3ball]

@@334tacticaloutdoors just purchased the Xi3 from bass pro because of the military discount. Can’t wait!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@paint3ball you’re gonna love it. Quick peice of advice the remote control has 4 screws on the back they only take a small turn to get tight do not over tighten them you will strip them out.

[@paint3ball]

@@334tacticaloutdoors I truly appreciate all tips as I’m new to all of this. What storage box did you use for your batteries? Also, what fish finder did you go with and why?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@paint3ball I use the Garmin Echomap 73sv fish finder it’s reasonably priced and easy to use. And I use the Hart storage tool box if you’ll watch the video of my fully rigged perception outlaw and go to the description you’ll see everything that’s on it.

[@3routdoors16]

Awesome videos! I purchased my outlaw because of your review ! I want to do the motor guide set up eventually . Is there anyway we could get a video of you standing up and using the motor guide ?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you!! This is truly a great kayak and yes I will film a video tomorrow on 9-8-22 and upload it I’ll comment back here to let you know it’s uploaded.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I tried to shoot a video today, but is has rained all day here. I will get a video uploaded soon as I can. Sorry I couldn’t get it up today.

[@3routdoors16]

@@334tacticaloutdoors no worries man that’s how it was here in north Tx past couple weeks.. look forward to the video!

[@FishingWithFred]

Awesome outcome. I also have the outlaw and don’t want to put trolling motor on the stern. Thanks for the insight. Was it hard to bolt down mount through access hole

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

No it was fairly simple. That deck plate gives just enough room to get your arm into it.

[@FishingWithFred]

@@334tacticaloutdoors Thanks, my name’s Fred. I reside in the Central Valley of California and also create videos through KZbin. I thought it was a great buy at $749.00 in 2022 and got it. I was fortunate to get it here and I have a couple stories that will back that. I’ve been watching your videos all day trying to make my next move. I could get a stern mount nice system but want a bow mount like you

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Well Fred, I’m Joey, thanks for watching the videos. I think you having a bow mount would be the best way to go, having the Outlaw it’s so easy to stand and fish that’s why I went with a bow mount cause I didn’t wanna be restricted to sitting for trolling motor operation. On the outlaw you do have to counterbalance the weight when using a bow mount trolling motor.

[@dennarricole618]

I have an outlaw just like you and I was wondering if you recommend putting the trolling motor in the back on the back plate or on the front

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

If you’re wanting stand and fish the most, I would definitely go with a bow mount trolling motor. If you sit and fish the most, then go with a stern mount trolling motor. I stand and fish the entire time I’m out that’s why I have a bow mount trolling motor.

[@Michael-s2p3p]

I want to install a different bow mount to run my Autoboat GPS system. How did you visualize the bolts on the install of your mounting plate? It seems like the deck plate is a bit far back and not in line of sight to install the bolts. Did you do it by feel? I’m nervous about that… thanks for the video, subscribed!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

All you can do is measure the inside of the hull from where u install the deck plate to the very front of the bow. Then you can get the measurement on top of the bow the biggest thing don’t get to close to the very front of the bow, make sure you have room to get bolts through and the washer and nuts on. Just get close as you can it doesn’t have to be perfect.

[@michaellucas373]

Bro you should be doing this on the side you would make a killing on this install.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you, I make these videos to help everyone out.

[@pthreeinspectors]

I have the outlaw and considering installing the xi3. Wanted to see if you've run into any issues since the install or any new recommendations since you've installed. Thanks great vid

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I’ve had absolutely no issues just offset the weight of the trolling motor with a battery in the rear tankwell. I can assure you want be disappointed with the XI3 on the outlaw.

[@popeoftattoos]

How many running hours do you get on the battery and do you just recharge it? I’ve been looking at buying this exact kayak for crappie and bass fishing around northwest Alabama.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I get about 11 running hours. I charge my batteries on a battery maintainer after every trip out.

[@gusdeleon3536]

Looks awesome! How do you think that setup would work on the saltwater flats?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

As long as you balanced it out correctly it would work great.

[@KentuckyBassin]

Question, I put the same 4 inch deck plate on mine but man I cannot reach my arm in far enough to try and rachet bolts down on the inside. Any advice or specific tools you used?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I had the same issue what I did is remove the hatch and tighten all your bolts down and do everything you need to get done then put the hatch back on.

[@zacharywoolverton225]

What battery do you use? Do you use a fuse at all? I've been researching and some videos say to use a fuse and others don't so I just wanted to know your opinion. Thank you

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I use a full size everstart agm marine battery. I used it for weight on counterbalancing the bow mount trolling motor. I only use fused links on my fish finder. I always suggest one for the trolling motor cause it protects it, but I don’t use one.

[@doylecovey]

Why do you have 2 wire ports going to the battery? Is one for your fish finder? I want to use just one battery for both electronics but I have read that it may cause issues. Any help would be appreciated.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Yes one port is the trolling motor the other is for the fish finder. It’s best to use separate batteries for electronics and for trolling motors. I use a mightymax 18ah battery for my fish finder it cost $37 bucks.

[@ApocalypsoAngler247]

Good job buddy, keep up the good work, I'm a new KZbin channel producer and mine is way new

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you, the more you do the better it gets.

[@ApocalypsoAngler247]

@@334tacticaloutdoors I like your kayak, I'm indecisive what I want next whenever my son gets older

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@ApocalypsoAngler247 doing the proper research on what you’re looking for is best. Sometimes you’ll here people say it’s a horrible kayak just make sure to listen to people that own it.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@ApocalypsoAngler247 thank you for liking my kayak

[@ApocalypsoAngler247]

@@334tacticaloutdoors yeah I'm looking at the one you have and one other

[@schalleroutdoortv8070]

What size deck plates do you have for the middle and back?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

It’s 5” deck plates in the middle and on the rear. It’s a 4” on the front.

[@seekhimoutdoors6825]

Question. I installed the 5" deck plate in the center and stern of my perception outlaw. And the 4" on the front as you did, but I can't reach the front to tighten the bolts for the cutting board mount on the front. How did you reach them with the 4 inch deck plate instead of a 5 ". And I'm just a little guy no massive arms lol

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I had to remove the deck plate to install the bolts for the mounting bracket. It’s a really tight fit. The hole with the deck plate out is just big enough to get your arm in to reach the bow.

[@seekhimoutdoors6825]

@@334tacticaloutdoors 10-4 thank you, I hadn't tried that yet.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@seekhimoutdoors6825 you’re welcome

[@timgoodrum9324]

Hello, I mistakenly purchased the 54" Xi3 for my boat. I can't return it. I would like to be able to use it on my outlaw. Will it be possible with the space up front?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

You can cut the shaft down on the xi3. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaOoanWKesxohq8si=pxn_Oh9QB_QX1-0Y

[@KentuckyBassin]

Another quick question, what did you use to attach your cord to the upper have of the xi3 in order to pull it back or lower it down?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

To keep my xi3 removable I used a carabiner and drilled a hole in release of the xi3 and attach the carabiner each time I put the xi3 on.

[@KentuckyBassin]

@@334tacticaloutdoors apologies I mean the upper part, did you just use a clamp and if so what size?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I used one of these and stretched it open and tied the rope around the bolt. newportvessels.com/products/motor-height-collar-for-nk180?variant=39497436823713&currency=USD&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=17491511898&gclid=Cj0KCQiApKagBhC1ARIsAFc7Mc7JDA9jEltrXtBmrAmoy178JVPvmEIsxO_feR_0nivXnwX8iw_g1_MaAilIEALw_wcB

[@jakelawson8358]

Are you close to North Alabama? I have the same model Kayak and I have been looking at this exact motor system. Would you be interested in modifying mine similarly?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I’m in east alabama in Opelika,Al if you willing to get it to me I can get it done for you.

[@wayneblanchard4347]

Sorry if you already answered this question. Was there a performance issue for deciding on the bow mount instead of the stern mount?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I wanted to be able to stand and fish and the bow mount trolling motor allowed me to do so. When you stern mount you have to either use pedal steer or a tiller handle either way it doesn’t make standing to fish east or possible.

[@wayneblanchard4347]

@@334tacticaloutdoors Thank you for the prompt response. Does the remote not work as well in the stern mount because there is interference with the signal?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Bow mount trolling motors aren’t meant to be mounted on the stern. And stern mount trolling motors doesn’t come with remote steering

[@topwaterwes2339]

Cool vid. Just purchased a trolling motor for my Outlaw yesterday. And just cut my cutting board to fit transom. Now just gotta figure out a battery. Not sure what's the best for trolling hours out on lake. 🤷‍♂️

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Thank you, I used a full size marine battery on my outlaw for the weight distribution.

[@topwaterwes2339]

@@334tacticaloutdoors How many hrs you get out of it? I guess that varies on how much you use it while on water.... AND what speed you're using too.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

If you want just a small but very good battery this is what I use on my lifetime Yukon kayak it’s the Everstart ES-TX30LA. Is weights 18lbs.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@topwaterwes2339 yes it all requires how much you use it, 7-9 hours easily though.

[@topwaterwes2339]

@@334tacticaloutdoors 7-9 hrs for the battery you just suggested ? Or different one

[@ELECTRICEYE1776]

How do you like the remote? Does it get in the way when you're trying to fish? would you rather a foot control? Thanks

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I actually love it. It’s very responsive and no it doesn’t get in the way.

[@ELECTRICEYE1776]

@@334tacticaloutdoors thanks for the info

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@ELECTRICEYE1776 you’re welcome

[@raybrdjr]

HI, IM FROM SOUTH ALABAMA! HOW LONG WILL THAT BATTERY LAST ON AVERAGE FISHING? IM WANTING TO ADD A TROLLING MOTOR TO MY SETUP MAINLY BECAUSE MY KNEES DONT LIKE PEDDLING THE FINS.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I run a full size agm deep cycle marine battery and it last me all day. If you want/need a longer lasting battery you can go to lithium 100ah battery and it’ll last for 2 or more in most cases.

[@raybrdjr]

@@334tacticaloutdoors WOW, THANKS!

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

You’re welcome

[@mariodinatale8314]

How does this compare to the bonafide ss127 ?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Stability is the same on both kayaks. The biggest difference between the 2 is the Bonafide is 1’ longer, has more built in storage, but cost $650 more. The outlaw does have more open deck space and is practically an open canvas for any modifications. Both of the kayaks are awesome to have.

[@emmettbowen4431]

Do you find having the garmen thst far forward hard to reach? I can't tell how tall you are.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

No not at all, but I stand and fish the entire time I’m out. The only time I sit is long moves or to tie new baits. But it’s really easy to still reach from sitting you do have to lean forward, but not much.

[@emmettbowen4431]

@@334tacticaloutdoors thanks for the quick reply. I really like the trolling motor setup. How much thrust is that one?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@emmettbowen4431 it’s a 45lb thrust.

[@WV_Opie]

What exactly is the clamp you used for pulling the motor up and securing it???

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

That’s just a trolling motor adjustment. lakesidemarineandservice.com/products/minn-kota-power-drive-depth-collar-kit?currency=USD&variant=14060753584194&Google%20Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAiA2rOeBhAsEiwA2Pl7Q3t3FUt_2pl7-MR-GskxLucDIE61dlVTBNSCTbT5EEqAK8vXdLEZmBoC8xUQAvD_BwE

[@WV_Opie]

@@334tacticaloutdoors thank you

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@WV_Opie anytime, if you ever have anymore questions just ask.

[@charliewanosik4154]

What is the trolling motor called and how fast does it go

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

It’s the Motorguide XI3 36” shaft 45lb thrust and it runs about 4-41/2 mph.

[@fatcatfishing7087]

How long can you fish with that battery using spot lock and other features?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I use a full size marine battery. I stay out between 8-10 hours and still have over a half of charge. If it’s a extremely windy day it will come down to about a half of battery.

[@fatcatfishing7087]

@@334tacticaloutdoors sweet! I just mounted the XI3 on my outlaw today.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@fatcatfishing7087 super nice. you will enjoy every moment of it. When you put it in the water you’ll see why the need for a full Size battery in the back is important for the counterweight

[@jimmymontes1777]

What gauge wire u use ??

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I use 8awg wire

[@csleach1]

What box did you use for your battery?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I started out with this boxin the first link. I have recently upgraded the battery box to the hart box in the last link. www.homedepot.com/p/Plano-16-qt-Storage-Crate-PLA1071MC/312083542 www.walmart.com/ip/HART-Stack-System-Medium-Size-Tool-Box-Fits-Modular-Storage-System/122949169

[@csleach1]

@@334tacticaloutdoors any reason for the upgrade? Did the plano box fail? Or just more room?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@csleach1 no the Plano box was great, I just wanted something that looked better in the tank well.

[@brandondinsmore5633]

Could you explain how you connected the battery to the connection that goes inside of the haul. Thanks.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

That’s SAE connections. The female end is what attaches to the kayak and the male end is what plugs into that.

[@brandondinsmore5633]

Are they 8awg?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Yes the trolling motor SAE is 8awg and the fish finder is 12awg

[@brandondinsmore5633]

Thanks man really appreciate it, I was confused because I can’t find any 8awg SAE connections on Amazon but I’ll look somewhere else.

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Here’s the 8awg SAE connector www.amazon.com/Ygdyxautoc-Extension-Compatible-Generator-Motorcycle/dp/B0BHYYLTC2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1NYO2HQCM4FXU&keywords=8awg+sae+connector&qid=1684110858&sprefix=8awg+sae+%2Caps%2C367&sr=8-3

[@dylanbell6767]

So would I be good just getting a 1 inch poly granite board

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

You can just make sure it’s over 1/2” due to getting it high enough for the quick release handle to slide out.

[@dylanbell6767]

@@334tacticaloutdoors awesome would that be 2 pieces of 1/2” board stacked on top or just a single 1” board though

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

It takes 1/2” just to get to the top yes just one 1/2” peice should be good you just gotta be careful some HDPE says 1/2” but comes nearly 7/16”.

[@paulmanzone8373]

how far and fast for trolling motor ? can you fish all day, and can you get from spot to spot quickly? thank you for any info

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

Trolling motor moves the kayak at 4.1mph, and yes it runs all day. My next video is me running the trolling motor while out fishing. So stay tuned to the channel I should have the video up Tuesday night. All your questions will be answered. Thanks for watching.

[@paulmanzone8373]

@@334tacticaloutdoors Thank you very much

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@paulmanzone8373 you’re welcome!!

[@paulmanzone8373]

Looking forward to more videos, I was planning on doing same set up on kayak but was not sure it would work now I'm a believer!

[@paulmanzone8373]

One more question please, where do you get the performance outlaw kayak and about what is the price, and dry weight? I've looked at several companies and want to get something more along those lines of kayak? And thank you again

[@xam1289]

I’m 210 lbs. I wonder how low it would ride with me in it?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I’m 155lbs so you’re on 55lbs more there shouldn’t be very much difference on the ride height.

[@gillismartin328]

How much is that trolling motors?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

The Motorguide xi3 is $699.00 without gps. If you wanna get it with gps it’s $1149.00 the gos is spot lock that’s the feature that’ll hold you in the same spot with the press of a button.

[@nickher83853]

How did you determine where to screw in the mount on the cutting board..

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

I measured off the bow to make sure I was at least 2-1/2” to allow me to get nuts on the bolts. Just make sure you’re not to close to the nose of the bow you wanna allow room for the buts on the inside of the hull

[@nickher83853]

@@334tacticaloutdoors I'm so darn nervous.. you used 1\4" screws that were 2" long.. would you have gone thicker.. daddy 1/2 inch by 2"... or shorter on the length?

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

The 1/4 works for me. I had absolutely no issues plus I like the smallest holes I can make

[@nickher83853]

@@334tacticaloutdoors excellent.. thank you again..

[@334tacticaloutdoors]

@@nickher83853 you’re welcome!! Let me know how it goes and if you have any more questions just ask.