Installing a Thundermax Tuning Module on my Wife's FXLRST

[@M14armorer]

Awesome video bro… I’m definitely going with a Thundermax after watching this. Appreciate it man!

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

Glad I could help, you wont be disappointed!!

[@jlaw32860]

Great video, Installed the Thudermax on my 2011 Deluxe with a 2 in 1 Bassani pipe, didn't have to move the "bung holes" but I did have to loosen up the pipe to get the rear one in. Same result, bike started right up, been running great since.

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

Heck yeah. The bassani pipes are in a great location, I think this Thrashin pipe just needs a slight adjustment to work better. Glad to hear it’s working perfect for you!

[@RobertS81658]

Thanks for sharing, I’m sure your wife will be happy with it. When the cam upgrade? LOL.

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

hopefully before winter we will do the cam swap, just trying to decide on which one. lol

[@digitalmischiefHD]

Ive been struggling hard between the Harley SE tuner vs the Thundermax. Yes the cost is a little greater, but I think you are right that this is the better option.

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

The SE is a ok choice if you’re looking to maintain a factory warranty or your plans are to only do exhaust/intake. They are designed to work within a safe zone for the MOCO, but for maximum performance and adjustability, the upgrade to something like the Thundermax is the way to go. Best of luck with which ever you choose

[@kpnomad7]

Tmax can handle any future changes or upgrades is why I like it, even though on my 17 ultra it seemed rich and combo oil pressure I had pinging issues, hopefully upgrade on my 20 ultra to a tmax from current se auto tuner, soon as I can justify $$.

[@Gimps_Garage]

Don’t waste your money with the EPA compliant garbage. Such as SE. those SE tuners are garbage. You’ll regret it

[@zackburdynski]

I definitely do, that's why im looking for the best option now.​@RoadGlide_Gimp

[@Gimps_Garage]

@@zackburdynski I did an install and review video on the Thundermax I installed on my 2018 road glide special. It’s a pretty detailed video and explains install, setup and overall layout. Etc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pICngX5-h76Kgsksi=1q6Ljq23byYFBYdT

[@davegayaldo]

does change speed limit

[@jasongallagher7646]

Thanks for sharing. I've decided on Thundermax on my 23 RG. I hope I don't have the same issue on the HPI pipe!

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

HPi will DEFINITELY work with the Thundermax, HPi actually runs TMax modules on almost all of their builds and they know many of their customers do too. Ryan from TMax is also running an HPi pipe and breather on his recent build. Hopes this helps!

[@jasongallagher7646]

@@Me.MyMachinist.and.l Thx man!

[@benodie02760]

Ha, wish I saw this when I was doing my TM. My VH head pipe rear cylinder had the same issue, $20 to a muffler shop to save the day. Otherwise I was too close to trans cover. Good video guys!

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

glad you were able to have it sorted, sucks that these companies can’t just make the adjustment while they are in production. 😂

[@kevinf7016]

What are you supposed to do with the old o2 sensor wiring harness where it was clipped in.. ? Just tape it off?

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

The kit comes with rubber dust caps to go over the connectors if you do not wish to try and pull them from the entire harness. I have them capped and out of the way.

[@parnellsc]

I love that machine! 😎

[@jayzee1968]

Exactly which Thundermax model/# is that please?

[@dwanjacquet162]

I’m getting a stage 2 but I’m curious about the ThunderMaxx , I was wondering if it does the same as a dynojet power vision

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

The PV does not auto tune unless you buy the upgrades wide o2 sensors and adapter. The PV tune only is just that, a tune. Any changes will have to be done at the shop that downloaded the tune. The TM gives you the ability to auto tune as well as adjust things from your laptop

[@ridered7394]

Why happens when a o2 sensor goes bad? Does it just go back to the base map?

[@508knucklehead]

Great informative install 🤙🏼🔥

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

Appreciate it!

[@kpnomad7]

They tmax sensors are giant size, currently have se wide band on a bassani with no issues!

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

I wonder if the connectors are the same? I’ll look into that. thanks for the info.

[@kpnomad7]

Yes standard connectors,

[@motorbikemike185]

Any problems with the bag due to the angle of the muffler? I run the same exhaust on a low rider s with leatherpros and the right bag gets pretty hot. Idk the long term effects but might switch to st bags

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

the ST bags sit higher than my LPs on my bike so far I haven’t noticed any issues. I have seen a lot of folks running this pipe on the ST and they seem to work great together

[@cfmartin568]

Don’t forget to lock the tune in after you drive it about a week or two that way it will fine-tune the map

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

yes, good point! def lock it in once the bike is running good. that’s what is nice about this module too cause you can go back and review the map to see how everything was performing

[@robertvillarreal7590]

How do you lock it in do you have to do that with the computer. I'm asking cuz I haven't installed mine just yet.

[@cj8172]

@@robertvillarreal7590 Good question, I want to know that too

[@cobnutts]

Thundermax saved my ass too..... I thought I could trust zippers for my order to support more then 1 American company with one purchase. Long story short they quoted me 3-4 weeks they just kept blowing me off and after 6 weeks of getting the run around Thundermax stepped up to save my sturgis trip and got me a module asap

[@JCunningham21]

traction control can be turned off in the tune. I have 2 tunes i can switch on the fly. 1 has it on the other has it off. My power vision is mounted on my bike all the time so i can switch it. iv never bothered to though. I just keep it off on my 21 LRS with a 128ci stage 3. 133hp 152ftlbs.

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

yes, you’re correct. This being my wife’s bike, she doesn’t need to remove TC for anything though 😂 my LRS doesn’t have TC so I can have all the fun 💨

[@MarvFitBikesKicks]

From my understanding the Thundermax is a real time auto tuning system that makes adjustments on the fly unlike the dyno jet target tune system which has auto tuning but you have to actually flash the computer to apply the map you got from your run. Now, if you install the Thundermax, why would one do a dyno tune if the data applied by the tuner can just be overwritten by the Thundermax? I’m having a hard time making a decision with what system to go with and can’t find a clear winner

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

the Thundermax does tune as you go, but also has what they call a safe target tune, which means it will make power, but has a tendency to be a little safer than a maxed performance tune. However if you want to know the power you’re making, or want to put down the most amount of power possible, a locked in dyno tune will provide that

[@muhammadumartahir1126]

@@Me.MyMachinist.and.lso why would you do Thundermax if you are locking Dyno tune? I’m confused as it seems like Thundermax is just going to waste if one needs a Dyno.

[@jamescarlson9051]

He'll yea what part of Central Arkansas I use to live in beebe AR

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

Cabot and NLR

[@normanboeck5444]

I’ve noticed a lot of exhaust companies put their O2 bungs in stupid places. D&D is one company that does it right. It’s almost like some companies never actually test fit their products.

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

D&D def has a great system that is easy to use and makes great power. I personally love the look of their pipes and with the saddlebags, feel it would have been a better look!

[@umpatas5468]

I've had a Thundermax on my 1200 sporty for 20,000 miles 2 exausts and 2 intake modifications. So far it takes a while to smooth out after such adjustments. It falsely says i have an intake leak ( verified with vacuum test) . I have been wanting to hop the engine up with jugs, pistons and cams but im honestly afraid it won't adjust fast enough to avoid causing damage. It doesn't seem to respond to manual map and timing changes. It takes them in memory then quickly disguards them. I'm thinking velocity stacks work better. If i were to do it again i would probably go with power vision with wide band o2.

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

from what I have been told, with each change you must start with a base map from their website that closely matches your mods. The module needs to learn from a base map, rather than a developed map that was created from previous mods.

[@umpatas5468]

@@Me.MyMachinist.and.l this is true to a point. But issues that require fine adjustment like retarded timing during break in just don't seem to stick. I am really growing to hate this computer stuff.

[@Idlehandzx2]

I would be surprised is 100% of H-D parts where not made in China shipped to the US and put together in Milwaukee

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

exactly….I’m no longer surprised when I see genuine parts being made elsewhere.

[@FeatheredDino]

HD's are made all across the world, assembled in the US. The easiest one everybody can see is the suspension. The suspension on all Harleys is made in Japan by Showa, a Japanese company. Granted, Showa has made themselves a good name by making great suspension for dirt bikes, quads and the like; but people buy a Harley with the expectation that it's American made. Well, they ain't. I'm real close to trading in my 2020 FXST for a '23 Indian Chief bobber. Reeeaaaal close.

[@Idlehandzx2]

@@FeatheredDino I am the same way my 2011 Fatboy is falling apart so buying replacement parts all day China 🇨🇳 and I’m good with them going after premium manufacturing but they don’t because of we all know it’s about profits. I’m not against profits at all I’m in sales but come on with the crap quality already.

[@Mrproper86]

Thundermax, what happens if you get a bad tank of gas or only have 91 available on trip? It wont retard timing on the go, what about a freaking hot day, and you be stuck in traffic and all the sudden it opens up and you wanna punch it going through all the gears? Its gonna detonate badly. Its old technology, the se tuner(epa or not) , powervision, and tts for example are able to pull timing at any. Moment while you ride , which the thundermax cannot do.

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

I’m not sure about the pulling of timing. I know the PV on my LRS continues to go lean on long hot rides. I have replaced the intake seals and searched for any other reason it may be doing it with no luck. I ride along side a lot of guys from one coast to the other and the TMax seem to run great throughout the entire trip. I can’t speak for personal experience, but I know a lot of guys, riding a ton of miles, that love their TMax so I’m stoked to try one out firsthand. I’ll def keep an ear out for any noises under extreme conditions

[@Mrproper86]

Typical trashin stuff. Overpriced product and inferior quality. Whole exhaust system and their engineers can’t even set it up for widebands? And people complain about Harley quality. Lol

[@Me.MyMachinist.and.l]

Rumor is that Bassani makes the pipes for Thrashin, I can’t say for sure. Def sucks that we had to modify an expensive system, but overall I’m still very happy with the products I have gotten from them over the years. Maybe they will see this video and make the changes needed to allow them to bolt on for all applications