Installing An Underground Propane Tank (500 Gallon)

Installing a 500 gallon tank, complete with unexpected problems with the new excavator. Doh!
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[@FarmCraft101]

So many projects, so little time! Lots more on the way folks! Have an awesome weekend everybody!

[@RandoCommando]

Is it overheating and causing it to slow down? Seems like it runs fine when it's rested and cool.

[@Mad.Man.Marine]

Wait !! So I was right when I guessed underground propane tank!!?? Cool

[@SpaceMulva]

was the toad ok?

[@Fireball9394]

Hell yea man...you too John!

[@80spodcastchannel]

for the curious...you could also tell them you installed the worlds smallest single person underground survival shelter.. or a subterranean submarine. 😉😉

[@joeslacks]

I had this exact problem on my old Bobcat x325, would run fine for 15 mins or so then cut out. Blew through with air and i'd get it back for a while but always stopped again after 10 mins or so. If i let it sit 24 hrs it would run for 15 mins again. There was a gauze on the fuel pickup in the tank that was completely clogged with gummy resin. I removed the tank and cleaned it out, cleaned the pickup gauze and put it all back in. No problems since then and it's been a good 5 years or more now. I got that machine cheap and i'm guessing it's because the previous owner got fed up with it stopping and didn't know what was wrong.

[@daolinhai]

Same with my bobcat 751. In this case it looks more like a lot of dirt in the tank... my bobcat did not start anymore before I installed a new fuel pickup. The excavator got a fuel lift pump, an electric one... I would wonder, if hat is there since the machine has been new. I would think, its an aftermarket installation to get rid of that missing fuel problem...

[@WayneWerner]

based on the state of the machine otherwise it's pretty clear the previous owner wasn't familiar with "maintenance"

[@Glidercat]

Thanks! Aside from the farm projects themselves, I have a sense for how much work goes into editing and putting these videos together. You do such a fantastic job! Keep up the amazing work and thanks again for what you do! 😺

[@papawheelie5835]

Judging from the air pressure you introduced that resulted in spraying fuel, I'd suggest that you vent the tank. Try running it with a loose cap to test the theory first, if it works, maybe all you'll need is to drill a tiny hole in the cap to relieve the vacuum. I've experienced a similar situation after replacing a missing fuel cap. It simply sealed too well.

[@timderks5960]

That wouldn't explain the required pressure to blow it open, plus it would have made itself very obvious by sucking in air as soon as there was an opening in the fuel line, like when he pulled off the filter. It's worth a test, but in my opinion, there's less than a 1% chance this is the issue.

[@BRI33NOR]

Had this problem on a fuel tank on all kinds of vehicles needing a vent of some kind. Hole in cap cheapest and easiest. There is not a big vacuum in the tank that's noticeable , it just seems to give a slight negative pressure that slows, not stops, normal fuel delivery. Not saying this is the problem in this case, just confirming it does happen.

[@mikeclarke3005]

@@BRI33NOR yes and any troubleshooting is process of elimination, and venting could be an issue, best to eliminate it before doing header work LoL

[@CordCrenshaw]

I feel like a part owner of all this equipment. I’m so invested in it. Great work!

[@alsaku33]

Fuel starvation. I had to remove and replace most of the rubber lines in my older Kobelco Mini. The routing in mine caused the supply line from tank to fuel filter to become smashed. I kept blowing the lines out, etc. but the problem would come back, machine would bog and start to run hot. Nice video sir!

[@551moley]

On my old kx 121-2, I found the fuel tank had an inch of mud at the bottom, after refuelling it would stir it up and block the filters, fortunately kubota have left a nice big access hole, after cleaning it out I put some descaling fluid (phosphic acid) in to cover the rusty bottom, after a few hours the rust had gone and left the tank like new with layer of phosphor to protect it, over a year now with a nice clean fillter bowl.

[@segdoh]

Thanks for this whole generator segment, great and inspirational stuff.

[@Norseman220]

I think the excavator will be good and faithful for many years once you get sorted out it's little problems. You are a clever guy and will have no problems fixing it. Good job.

[@markbrown6236]

Really like the easy to understand explanations along the way.

[@bobcarry4820]

I have watched a number of your videos and give you an A+. You work with what you have. You actually plan your projects, sometimes even on paper. You explain what you are doing in a professional and serious manner. Your comedy is appropriate, quick and appreciated. Subscribed and rung the bell. Thanks for sharing.

[@johnclemont7801]

Turned out great. Really liking the content and looking forward on what's to come. Thank you for bringing us along!

[@garethjudd5840]

Here in the UK all tanks are supplied with a concrete pad bolted to the bottom to stop it popping up when empty in wet water logged ground.

[@Jay22222]

By “Supplied with” you mean “Required by law. At your own expense, of course” right? Not saying it’s not a good idea, necessarily or even just a prerequisite due to the environment in some places though.

[@micheleb.6154]

I find your videos very instructive and entertaining. I always learn something new. Who knew what a galvanic bag was? Keep up the great work.

[@billyhansen7183]

really loving these videos, must be so much work to get these out each week.

[@bradhafichuk]

I have to tell you this video reminded me of a good old new yankee workshop episode. Little bit of tool talk, little bit of measuring, and a lot of straightforward work. Love it.

[@forrestcurry7889]

If the packing in the blade cylinder looks good or it otherwise continues to bleed off after repairs, check the swivel. It transfers the hydraulic flow from the top of the machine to the undercarriage. If an O-ring in the swivel is on its way out, it can show the same symptom. You may also have issues tracking where one final is usually slow and weak. You mentioned that your left side wasn't spinning as fast in the previous video. Worth a look. It's not a terrible repair. Just a ton of O-rings after you get it apart. Great videos. Machine looks solid. Good luck.

[@daniellassander]

I really love your videos they are so good, i really like that they are aimed at improving your own home and life too, it gives them a deeper meaning.

[@pitchblackscatpack8229]

Easily my favorite channel on KZbin. Love your videos, man. Thanks so much for posting so much informative content and doing things the right way.

[@williamglaser6577]

Always enjoyable to see your projects. Makes me feel like I am doing something as opposed to being totally lazy !

[@lebensgesetze]

I always look forward to seeing a new video from you on Friday. Thanks a lot of all your hard work into making these videos, I always find them deeply interesting.

[@rmsflorida]

I stumble across your "Tong& Groove " video.'.. Then this about the tank installed today...I didn't know about the anodes... Interesting...I about the installed a generator and will be installing a in ground propane tank....I do a lot of repairs here in Florida having a machine shop. I think your location is Va. ...I live there...You did a great job in the repairs on the hydraulic cylinders.... I see that you replacing the porch on the house...Rember codes !A "square & flat bottoms in the holes" for the foundations...I made that mistake...Good videos .....Thanks..... Robbie

[@stephenc2527]

Great explanation of the galvanic properties. Huge in the boating world. Maybe american truck manufacturers could connect something to their panels to stop from rusting out :)

[@28thAttempt]

This is quickly becoming my new favourite KZbin channel. Keep up the good work John. Cheers from Hamburg, Germany

[@BCJAZZZ]

Man, never heard about the possibility to prevent rust for tanks, using other metals... sounds perfectly obvious, but I never even thought about it, and that it's even in use... The more you know... :)

[@LivingTreeCarpentry]

I look forward to your videos. Amazing the hard work and the ingenuity you show!

[@thegrumpytexan]

Turned out great! I went with an above ground tank the same size, and had them install a portable tank refill adapter setup. I can fill my own 20lb tanks from my big tank; comes in handy for filling up the tanks on my RV camper. You have to have them install this before they fill the tank though.

[@aron6998]

The parts needed can be installed anytime even with propane in the tank without issue as long as the large tank has the proper valve for liquid withdrawal

[@Motoxr32]

Really enjoy your thought process on projects. 😎

[@mikegriff8372]

I have an 06 Terex. As soon as I bought it I had to put in an inline filter like yours has, 12-15 filters later no issues. It is a whole lot easier than getting that tank off.

[@jonathanstabley7807]

Clean the gas tank out and the entire system. That motor sounds excellent!

[@tylerbarrett6652]

Huh.... I didn't make a comment as to my guess in that last video... but I was thinking "propane tank" or something... but then I saw those cable tie-downs (or whatever you might call them). I don't know what they are securing... but I gotta wonder if having the propane tank right next to them will cause any issues. Just found your channel and I'm loving it... excellent use of the time lapse and ALSO the slow mo stuff. You just do a really nice job with this stuff. Again, thanks for sharing these projects with us.... quite entertaining AND educational.

[@pavil58yt]

I had the same question. Those anchors are I think keeping a power pole vertical. Did he have to check with power company before hand?

[@mursalot]

Great video. You may want to leave a mound where you backfilled. Over time the sand/dirt will settle leaving behind a depression.

[@louisross9691]

It’s great when you pull science into normal life. So interesting. Thank you , love it!

[@Megalixer84]

fuel cap not venting maybe? building up a vacuum in the tank

[@torotheplumber3788]

In my state you're required to have a tracer wire and caution tape over that gas line . Pretty cool how you're able to stay composed and maintain a sense of humor through the ups and downs of the project . Great job 👍.

[@LoyaltySucks]

i love how when watching your videos the exact question that i have is answered a minute or two later genuinely learn alot thanks for that

[@jjryansea]

The variety and sometimes complexity of the projects you take on never ceases to amaze me. Thank you. I loved the anode bag tutorial. Brought back lost, (well sort of lots) of high school chemistry. Thank you.

[@roseblite6449]

LOL, love the backhoe that doesn't need repairs. The area I live in won't allow propain tanks to to be buried, so mine has always been above ground. Did some hand sanding on my tank due to some surface rust, then repainted it a couple of years ago. It's been out here for over 50 years, very little rust but figured I would prevent it from rusting out. We got a whole house generator last year to supplement the solar panels we got the two years ago. Personally, even if they allowed us to place our propain tanks underground I wouldn't want to, simply because the anode bag would have to be replaced every 20 years or so and our above ground one hasn't had any problems since it was installed over 50 years ago. Still, great video and enjoyed watching.

[@nicolaspa4644]

Tanto trabajo y nunca pierde el sentido del humor ! Siga así....

[@stanleykeith6969]

I Love watching you work on things, and you do it right. Don't know if you where trying to scare the wife or what. Great job, something always needs fixed. I bet the fuel tank has crud in it, but the fuel looks clean. Maybe a bigger fuel filter after you clean the tank out.

[@mikeburton7077]

Great machine once you get all the problems sorted ,so very useful!

[@still-DJ]

I hope that bag works out for you for many years. In Arizona I used galvanized pipe risers (because of sun) for faucets, and they rusted through in less than 2-years.

[@stevem6711]

I put a 1,000 gal tank in a few years ago. Propane company recommended filling with pea gravel, which I did. Worked fine. I put some landscaping fabric over the gravel at the top to keep the dirt out and covered the rest with top soil. Two anode bags on a 1k gal tank.

[@user-fj1fu7tc8x]

Just beautiful when a plan comes together looking forward to more videos

[@TheOneAndOnlyTBash]

there is definitely something that feels good about having the right tool for the job and I can imagine that scales with the size of the tool. The property my mother in law bought has a skid steer and I will do any chore that requires it with a smile on my face.

[@johnguay1859]

John great video. My Bobcat skid steer did the same; run for a short time and loose power and stop. The screen in the tank was plugged up with gunk. Cleaned and now works great. It sat with little use for a few years till I purchased it. Great machine. Good luck with the excavator, seems to dig well as it is. Some much needed maintenance will make this a good machine for you

[@shawndyer8140]

Never dig so close to guy wires.

[@johnekins4408]

Once again I am enjoying watching your video whilst I should be cutting my grass! Excellent info as always, thank you.

[@jeffcrocker5214]

Mr. John appreciate what you do and how you do it and how you explained it

[@Sam-hg7on]

Interesting to see the way things are done in other parts of the world. In my country above ground tanks seem to be the norm, I think mostly for ease of maintenance and flood protection. Definitely uglier than underground tanks though. I only just found this channel and I'm already addicted; the creativity and production value of your videos are top notch. Looking forward to future projects, keep up the good work 👍

[@franswa455]

Australia 🇦🇺?

[@michaeltarasenkoop2389]

Nice neat exelent installation great job not like some sloppy Carless installs with full of rocks !

[@kaakeith3772]

i found you from your outboard series, and have watched almost all of your content so far. finally got my '39 johnson 2.5 hp humming last week :]

[@petereriksson4405]

Just found your channel and love it! I work on power lines, i would not be to happy to have some one dig up our anchors. The pressure of the soil holds them down, and they go down in about the same angle as the anchor wires, so im affraid you are just above them.

[@lancer2204]

Nice job! Now you just need a gravel filled trench to drain the water to a level to your access tub doesn't fill the next time it rains :)

[@richardc3208]

Looks like you worked thru the bugs to complete the task at hand. If the main cylinder doesn't leak to bad, you can use the bucket to help turn the machine. So you can get a little more time out of the tracks but repacking cylinders and the track tensioner ain't to bad of a job. I would clean it well on the track tensioner,it makes removal alot easier. Enjoy watching,keep em coming

[@jeffallen3382]

That ending was great!

[@FvGa]

You're having way to much fun with your toys :D

[@tracybowling1156]

Don't you just love when your expensive equipment helps you out by giving you video ideas!?!

[@Jack-rg6xf]

I like your channel, and you have far more talents than I could ever imagine. I would have put the tank on the ground behind some bushes.

[@lloydledrew4200]

Great video. Keep them coming

[@FrankTheTank417]

Great video. I’m addicted to these.

[@kellygb9278]

I must say, I am impressed with your work skills!. I am a 54 Yr. master mechanic & I feel qualified enough to say you have mastered your skill sets. For someone who 'picked it up' as you went, I am only wishing you lived closer so as to pick your brains :)

[@staceyhepburn3201]

I am in the same boat! So many projects and not enough time! Lol

[@iainhetherington4608]

John I don’t want to tell you how to cook eggs but a tip for digging trench’s wider than twice your bucket , use the main arm slew and dig one side, then before you shift slew the other way and dig the other side, then clean out the middle. Doing this reduces side pressure on your boom from trying to scrape the sides of the hole. Hope this helps next time Cheers from Aus

[@willboudreau1187]

I prefer the sounds of trucks and tools and nature and your voice over to that of music.

[@FarmCraft101]

I hear ya. The drone doesn't have a microphone, so it's music or silence. And when I speed things way up I have a similar problem. The audio becomes noise. I try to find royalty free music that isn't terrible...

[@daleolson3506]

Music sucks 👎👎👎👎👎

[@billyhaddock5540]

Congrats FC101 on digging the hole and putting in the Propane Tank. Looks Great.

[@aron6998]

Improper tank installation and if the propane company that the guy works for sees this video he will at least have a final written warning for several issues

[@raloszkmag9888]

amazing, love your humor

[@oliefan3722]

You should build a small removable barn over the plastic lid. On the side paint an ad for Strickland Propane

[@anderssvensson8472]

Love your videos, keep up the good work👍🏻

[@bobpickett5987]

I just figured something out. You seem to have a lot of money to buy equipment for your own personal use and you know a lot about everything almost like an engineer, and a chemist combined. Do you by any chance call yourself, Heisenberg. And is Jesse your friend. I love your podcast and I have learned more than I could ever learn in a classroom. You go out of your way and explain how things work and your ability of troubleshooting problems.keep up the good work, and keep explaining the smallest of details. this is where you shine from all the other KZbin podcast.

[@denveyebanks4787]

Forget the excavator for a sec. What are support anchors for and why are you digging so close to them?

[@TheZigZiggy]

All that sand around the gas tank will make a nice collection point for the rain and any groundwater to accumulate. I'd be looking down that access port after any large rainstorm.

[@trader025]

They are supposed to be bedded in sand and backfilled with sand and screened fill ... unless your in an area that code requires you install a concrete liner first.

[@davemoulton2971]

The sand prevents any rocks from rubbing against the tank and wearing a hole in it. Sand is part of the gas code for installs

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

Excellent chemistry explanation. Anode what?? Too funny

[@tectalabyss]

I mean this in a good way,please don't take me wrong. I myself wouldn't put the tank next to the guild cables of the power pole. Lightening can do some very wild things. And the cables here at home are also used for the main earth ground . Liked,shared. All my best.

[@ericwalstrand3512]

Very similar to ships, when they put zincs bars on the hull do prevent/delay rusting.

[@raoulwallenberg5735]

Thanks for another great video, dad!

[@mccoulombe941]

Great video! On point. Realistic because there's always a breakdown, when there is a deadline looming.💪 Bottom line... You completed the job And the video.🥳 Subscribed

[@Cotton088]

That’s what you want to do…bury a propane tank next to a guy wire. If lightning hits the shield wire or the conductor goes to ground and there is an issue with the pole ground…yeehaw. I do enjoy your videos. Please continue to publish

[@Pskawt]

As a gas fitter I highly recommend AGAINST burying propane tanks. I know they are unsightly but it just makes more sense. Of course I live in Canada which brings all sorts of other issues like propane vapour turning liquid in the dead of winter. At any rate good luck with that!!

[@nicvazqueznic]

Burial tanks perform better in extreme cold, burials are at near 50° when it's below zero outside, less likely to lose pressure, and they can be drawn down to 10%, above ground tanks will only draw down to 20% in extreme cold. Burials can be filled to 89% whereas above ground tanks only 80%. And in the states, burials of any size only have to be 10' from a building, an above ground 1,000 Gallon tank would need to be at 25' away. Burial tanks are a luxury. We install them regularly. We just buried 3 x 1,000 gallon tanks as a single system.

[@Pskawt]

@@nicvazqueznic ok that’s good to know. You don’t they rot out a few years?

[@nicvazqueznic]

@@Pskawt there's redundancy in tank protection these days, the new burials come with Electrolysis preventing paint on them to keep rust from eating the tank, additionally since early 2000's an Anode bag is required for install, the anode bag is 20lbs approx of pure magnesium, it has a wire lead that is attached to the tank, if there were any scratches in paint it would rust without the anode bag, the bag reverses the polarity of the tank so it will actively repel ferus metals in the dirt that would otherwise rot the tank, the anode bag is a lot like a zinc plate on a boat in Salt water, the zinc plates corrode so the boat doesn't. It's sacrificial so they go bad over time, but should last at least 20 years or so, the theory is, if you replace the anode bag every 20 yrs, the tank should last over 100yrs.

[@Locane256]

Love It! Not sure about the music this go around but love all the content 😃

[@adanfranchi578]

John, it amazes me how well you can problem solve. You are very bright, talented and a gifted teacher. I enjoy your videos tremendously. Please keep sharing. Thank you also for being a strong second adm. advocate!

[@jebowlin3879]

I love the Dune Cascades (sandvalanche) you seem to have put a lot of thought into this, its like you know what you are doing LOL

[@TechneMoira]

Darn it, I honestly thought he was digging an elephant latrine... I love elephants. That being said it's actually fun to see a farmer with a sense of humour who doesn't take himself too seriously :) Can't wait to see how he's going to cure his ailing johns... I mean, dumptruck... must be another farmer's survival trick

[@twofeathers6540]

this video is great thanks so much

[@hhazelhoff1363]

I’m no expert on this subject but I built numerous pole barns on agricultural properties. Seems to me with all the wind you have at your farm you would be well suited for a wind turbine to get free electricity to your entire operation. You would be shocked at how much energy you can produce if you have a steady wind source.

[@jth1699]

The utility company will crap when they see how close ur tank is - and I'd be really supportive if the inspector doesn't make you expose that line again - you buryed one of the things they want to see... that is the radius of the bends - we always used pea gravel to back fill fuel tanks ... good luck with the inspections

[@aron6998]

Sand is acceptable as it’s a neutral soil and drains well but using a hard riser in the dome lid horrible decision, not having tracer wire/tape with the poly is definitely not legal, the depth of the poly is also questionable, and at least in my state using what seemed to be compression fittings on the poly is also not legal

[@DaveyBlue32]

Should have had sand on the bottom…but it’s way better than had you tossed that rock back in… what inspection!!! LMFFAO’. Should definitely do the warning tape or bury a board with some orange paint… you don’t want to hit that line with a shovel when you are replacing your anode!!! LMFFAO!!! Tear that tank off and clean the fuel system up!!!

[@fishes4life362]

It’s all ok other than the riser in the dome. States don’t regulate propane tank burying it covered in NFP58 code federal. Now they can say the line is not deep enough or no tracer wire is a no no, but the soil comp when it was buried not there job.

[@aron6998]

@@fishes4life362 well that’s somewhat incorrect as some states have LP gas commissions that oversee the installations of propane systems and NFPA 54 & 58 are in play however authority having jurisdiction can place additional rules on top of the federal guidelines

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

My dream is to own property like yours. Beautiful and peaceful.

[@6minutemedia543]

I'd have been so tempted when the tank was still waiting to be buried to paint it yellow and mount a drain pipe on top to give folks a talking point.

[@LinkinPark4Ever1996]

In Italy we are required to have a concrete slab under the tank and the tank bolted to it, I guess because the tank could float because of rain or whatever, I'm not an expert. My job is to fill them with my tanker trucks!

[@robertlemoine3500]

Thankyou John .looking forward to the next episode.

[@scottwitherow7586]

Another great one & one of the projects I'm looking to do soon.

[@charlessoule8587]

Great job!

[@tofmcwilliams887]

An EXCELLENT example of how and why anodes prevent rust. Wouldn't have clicked for me in a chemistry class situation. I assume 'galvanized' metal refers to the galvanic series?

[@arcanewyrm6295]

Yes. Most specifically, galvanized steel is generally coated in zinc. You might also hear about aluminized exhaust pipes for cars and such. Basically same thing, except the steel is coated with aluminum instead of zinc - but with the same anticorrosive effect.

[@michaela1655]

Change the spark plugs and the ignition coils and it will run like a champ! :)

[@JuzzyQld]

Its diesel....

[@michaela1655]

@@JuzzyQld :)

[@jasonshipman3384]

Bro! You are the bomb. Really enjoy watching these. Can do attitude. Keep it up

[@zakimirza5648]

You explained better than my Chemistry teacher.

[@niveknospmoht8743]

Good install

[@jeffskent]

I certainly agree with you about the downside of buying used equipment, but my friend bought a high end $32,000 camper pop up thing and had major issues the first two times he used in the desert and the mountains. He is planning to upgrade to a Mini Wini so things happen. Or life happens while we are busy making plans. I will always remember your last video where you came up to your wife and pretended to measure her and she laughed and sprayed water at you and that was charming. Thanks again.

[@BjornV78]

25:30 Damn, they stole your tracks 😂

[@KarasCyborg]

First thing to talk about is why you would want to install a tank underground, especially near those power pole stabilizers? I mean that whole thing just seems like a maintenance nightmare, accident waiting to happen? An above ground tank seems easier to work-on or replace if something goes wrong. Might not be that sightly, but seems a lot easier to build some privacy fence around it rather than burying it.