Installing Cam & continuing Into Next Video Part A

[@drummerdm1016]

Mike, your awesome, your eye for detail is amazing. Always fun to watch a craftsman, thank you

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You

[@king0cans]

I wish Mike was my neighbor. Nice guy and a wealth of information for a old guy here playing with my first evo. Thank you!

[@pacificmike9501]

Our pleasure!

[@caseykelso1]

Better than Any Manual !!! Thanks for sharing guys! I know it's a team effort. Awesome work!

[@pacificmike9501]

Our pleasure! But, don't discount the manual.

[@caseykelso1]

@@pacificmike9501 always have my manual. But again, the manual doesn't talk to us and explain shit.🤣🤣🤣

[@pacificmike9501]

I really appreciate that. As long as you have it. My hope is to be clear and hope it helps to make the manual make sense to people.

[@jang6969]

Jim's very lucky to have a person of your knowledge working on his bike. Thanks for another great informative video Mike! 🇨🇦

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. We're just as fortunate to have Jim.

[@MrBadgas]

Indeed

[@radicalanddangerous]

I've really learned a lot watching your series. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.

[@pacificmike9501]

My pleasure!

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing.

[@pacificmike9501]

My pleasure!

[@dray1842]

Nice shim hoard, I'm jealous.

[@pacificmike9501]

Put in a gazillion cams and you'll end up with a collection of shims.

[@darrell3368]

Learning a lot Mike thanks for sharing keep Jim working

[@pacificmike9501]

Thanks, will do!

[@danielmorris3687]

Mike! You're using the box end of a wrench! I can't recall you doing that before, ever. Like all your uploads this series of videos has been informative and interesting. ✌🇨🇦

[@pacificmike9501]

I hate to chip fasteners. Sometimes, box end is the way to go. Motorcycles are more than machines to me. Beauty (as I perceive it) Is very important. And, as a mechanic, I didn't like chewing up fasteners on my customer's baby.

[@danielmorris3687]

@@pacificmike9501 Agreed. I've seen way too many of those chewed up because someone didn't have access to a draglink socket. You've mentioned you use the open end to avoid damaging the fasteners right? Or did I hear that incorrectly in a long ago video of yours? That could have happened. I'm getting into the forgetful stage of life. 😆

[@pacificmike9501]

Open end to keep from knocking off chrome corners.

[@rustyrims05]

Love the senior moment at the start of the vid. Mine are getting more often. 🙄

[@pacificmike9501]

I don't remember.

[@larryfisher2663]

Good Work Jim! Wiping that oil off with paper towels is the most work I've seen you do on this whole project!👍

[@pacificmike9501]

It's Jim's motorcycle. He's there to watch and help when needed. He's one of my best friends and we've been planning this for years.

[@beetlepimp2624]

i didn’t think this was jim’s channel!

[@jimmyp6443]

Mike ,searching for shims ,been their before measure 50:shims and closest one is .010 too big ,thankfully I have a surface grinder .

[@pacificmike9501]

You're spoiled. Where were you when I was fitting flywheel shims?

[@jimmyp6443]

New Jersey ,mail them out with finish size ,if you have the time !

[@pacificmike9501]

It may come up again. When it does, we'll talk. Take care.

[@dumpstersouls8176]

Thanks Mike. IM rebuilding my first Evo and this was more information than ive found anywhere else. insanely helpful

[@pacificmike9501]

Glad it helped!

[@jonnycando]

My new cylinders and pistons haven’t come in yet, so this could be my next step….you are right in sync with me!

[@pacificmike9501]

That's very cool. Take it slow. It's in the details. Super sanitary clean.

[@jonnycando]

@@pacificmike9501 slow is mandatory with a day job….cleanliness an effort but have many rags and much cleaning fluid will be copiously used!

[@pacificmike9501]

That's the spirit!

[@brandonjones152]

Great videos!

[@pacificmike9501]

Glad you like them! Thank You.

[@gregr1672]

How important is line boring a new cam case bronze bushing to match the came bore? I had to install new cam cover on my 87 FXR and bought one ready to bolt on with new seal and oem tolerance bushing. It went on ,but it did not just push on easily like yours did. I had to draw it on with the screws. I was afraid to tap the cover on with a leather hammer in a dead blow. I didn't have the special tool to remove cam and I assume put new cam cover on and line the 2 holes up perfectly .I rode the bike with no issues but wonder if that was a critical step I should have done. I ve since had engine totally rebuilt by A life long pro HD Machine Shop here in W Pa. Guys like yourself ,and the Motorcycle machine shop I use are a dying breed . Who is ever going to pick up all the knowledge you guys possess. Thanks for all your knowledge you share right here on You Tube. I am thinking of picking up an early V Rod with low miles . I know they were never embraced by trad HD guys ,but they are mechanically rock solid drive train from everything I ve read and heard .The new Sportster with the V Rod style motor 120 hp off the showroom floor I think is going to change things up .

[@pacificmike9501]

Okay. Here we go: You had to press the cover on. Something did not align perfectly or was too tight So now the question is: Will it wear in and be just fine? I can't tell you that one. All we can do is assume, because it's running fine, that it's okay. What we don't know is if there is stress on the cam bearing and if one or both of the bushings in the cover was just a little tight. It has probably run in now and is fine, or you can be uncomfortable and take it apart to inspect it.

[@gregr1672]

The motor did run fine so it probably wore in . The engine has since been totally rebuilt for the crank pin being gaulded(rough) . I was just wondering if you were to put a new cam cover on ,would you use the reaming tool or boring bar the Harley Manual recommends .Thanks

[@pacificmike9501]

I certainly would have checked it with the motor apart.

[@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369]

HOWDY Mike, Part-A ... Installing the CAM Thanks COOP ...................................................

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You

[@huuknow3133]

Many thanks for everything! One question, I recently changed cam and case was mildly scored, plastic breather. I went to S&S reed breather, have you used these? Thanks a million.

[@pacificmike9501]

I've never used one. But, I've only heard good things about them.

[@jimmccoskey8253]

Always saddened when the video comes to an end...patience, Jim, patience.

[@pacificmike9501]

He'll be fine and we'll get done. At that point, it will all be worth it.

[@tripswtrav]

I've had an issue finding a pack of cam shims of various sizes. Like the ones im finding are maybe 5to10 per pack but all the same size. So I would need to figure out my exact endplay before I can even order a shim the correct size . Would you know of anywhere I could find a variety pack?

[@pacificmike9501]

I don't know. I've always bought them as a shop. 5 in a bag was okay. Measure for what you need and buy one larger, one smaller, and one just right. Sorry. Couldn't help it. I used to (before I started working in a shop) measure, then go buy three sizes hoping to get what I wanted. I don't know of any suppliers, just shops, that sell individual cam shims.

[@video-dispatch8309]

Did Harley switch away from the tabbed thrust washer? Opened up My 95 softail and it has a single fully circular thrust washer. But I believe the manual has the tabbed one. Nothing else inside indicates aftermarket parts or someone messing with it. Should I order the tabbed version and use it in conjunction with my shim? Installing an ev27.

[@pacificmike9501]

Late model Evos have huge camshaft endplays and all come with a round cam shim. I usually install the old type shim to replace it and get the endplay the cam manufacturer recommends.

[@fatbob187]

Hi Mike, I am a lttle confused the way you install the tappet screen. In my opinion it must be installed with the closed end upside and an additional spring. So tells every manual at least :-) Greetings from Germany.

[@pacificmike9501]

Different screens for different models. The one in the video is a 65 Panhead. It is an early type. The Cone motor Shovelheads and Evos have a pointed screen which goes in with the point up, then drop the screen on top, over it.

[@lukegabriel1095]

I've got a question hopefully you can or will help me lol I found two dots perfectly centered on the flywheel and the front piston is TDC should I go with it or continue looking for the line.im installing an ev 27 on my 1997 1340 evolution. What should I do . Thanks in advance

[@pacificmike9501]

Keep looking. You have found TDC on the rear cylinder.

[@SgcrazykillerGaming]

Hi mate I’m new to Harley motors I’ve got a s&s v96 I was pulling off the cam cover and cam dropped out with it the issue I have now is can I be 180 out or just line up marks and should be good ?

[@pacificmike9501]

Just line up the marks. You're good.

[@efrainguzman6143]

Hey Mike thanks for your hard work on getting your videos out, i have a 1994 Harley Davidson heritage nostalgia softail fully stock, i will like to spice up and work on the motor and i will like your recommendations on modifying the motor and cam, im looking for sound, performance and touring on long trips, what are your recommendations? Thanks Efrain

[@pacificmike9501]

It's all a matter of what you want and what you want to spend. I did bunches of them in the past. Your choice on carburetor (S&S or Mikuni HSR42). Cam again, your choice. Read all of the specs and don't go too wild. The mfgrs will tell you what each cam will do. Depending on how many miles are on the bike, you might want to install a new set of valve lifters (good aftermarket set). You'll need a good exhaust system and probably a good aftermarket ignition system. Don't forget, with the new cam, you'll need a set of adjustable pushrods. This is why I don't like to make recommendations. I don't know what you're wanting in the way of performance. I don't know how much money you want to spend and I don't know your level of mechanical skills. But, that's the stuff I would do. Lastly, I don't push brands.

[@efrainguzman6143]

@@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike

[@Tcalz06]

great video. I'm getting ready to do a cam in a 80" evo. Do you prefer the metal breather gear and do you worry about the gear lash with a new cam?

[@pacificmike9501]

Individual bikes have individual issues. Stock breathers are all fine. We start making changes in the motor. Sometimes we need to figure it out. Mild cam change? Stock breather fine. Stroker? Huge cam? Stop and think it over.

[@BLZDxSAM]

Hi Mike! I’m finally getting around to rebuilding my 98. You answered all of my questions before with great knowledge haha. I’m replacing the stock cam with another used OEM cam. Should the original shim and thrust washer result in the same amount of end play it currently has? First rebuild I’ve ever done, so I don’t have all the extra resources laying around nor the knowledge of what to purchase. Thanks!

[@pacificmike9501]

Always check the cam endplay. The factory assembly here is usually a huge endplay. Everyone I know, resets them.

[@edoluyt467]

Mike, I own a 98 Evo and just bought an EV27 cam for it. I noticed in the original set up I only had the round thrust washer. With the EV 27 and only the thrust washer there is way too much play. I measured both the old and new cam lenght between shaft ends and there is approx 1/16 length difference. I was told that the EVO 1 had shorter cams than Evo 2 and that aftermarket cams are made for both. Can I simply add a spacer between thrust washer and cam or do I need to do something else?

[@pacificmike9501]

I don't know of such a thing as Evo one and Evo two. I generally install a shim between the cam and the thrust washer. I'm assuming that is an Andrews EV 27 cam. I also believe that cam came with a blue instruction sheet. Read it and govern yourself accordingly. Just joking. But, Andrews knows exactly what they're doing. Their instructions are perfect. Read the end play of the cam in the engine and select the proper shim. That's the only way to be accurate with it.

[@wildman3541]

Mike- do you have to remove the push rods to install an EVO27 cam into a 1988 FXR?

[@wildman3541]

It would be great to be there while you installed the cam for me to learn. I understand no one wants to reveal where they live. I'm in NC...you anywhere close to that? Wild man RG3 (my channel).

[@pacificmike9501]

Sorry. I am not only on the West Coast, but I am retired. You should not only remove the pushrods, you should replace them with a good name brand adjustable set. Hopefully, we'll meet sometime.

[@wildman3541]

@@pacificmike9501 Thank you Mike. Will do.

[@dougbrown8840]

Any chance you could do a video to explan lift and duration and their effect on performance? I'm trying to build my motorcycle not just the motor. I checked out your vid on changing gear ratios and learned a lot, now I'm looking for that balance between power and gearing to get what I want. The sweet spot is kinda elusive bro, any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks...

[@pacificmike9501]

That's a little more technical than I like to show. And, I go by reading the descriptions in the catalogs to see where that cam is going to perform. Then there's preference that comes from experience. Each designer of camshafts uses his own scientific approach.. Then, everything that goes with it. I try to stay away from explaining things beyond my comfort zone.

[@dougbrown8840]

@@pacificmike9501 I can respect that. I've been riding since the early 80s and never really considered how many details come together to create the overall experience. Thanks anyway. Really enjoy the channel

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you. Sorry to be so vague.

[@harryspeck8098]

No checking cam gear diameter?

[@pacificmike9501]

Not always necessary. Factory color codes them. Aftermarket allows for more. There is "old age and treachery."

[@video-dispatch8309]

This man is like the bob ross of working on harleys.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@victorzaharov5072]

Большое спасибо. Как всегда отличное видео.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@victorzaharov5072]

@@pacificmike9501 I own a motorcycle powered by an Evolution engine. However, it's hard with spare parts now

[@pacificmike9501]

I'll bet it is.

[@donquijote1141]

One small puck almost stopped a Big Deal :-) But we won't let her)))

[@pacificmike9501]

Okayfine.

[@tripswtrav]

What cam is this?

[@pacificmike9501]

Can't tell everything.

[@shovel2683]

I’ll wait here for ya 😂

[@pacificmike9501]

I'm there now.

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍😊

[@banditscatti5716]

Hi Mike, great Videos, nice bike. I'm looking for a recommendation, are those steel breather gears a good choice instead of the plastic breather gear? And if yes, do you recommend a specific maker?

[@pacificmike9501]

I've used both with no complaints.

[@banditscatti5716]

Hi Mike, is there a recommended replacement interval for the original plastic breather gear? I mean, after a specific amount of miles or years maybe? Of course it is to beplaced when it is broken.

[@pacificmike9501]

Not that I know of.

[@markgarrett8814]

Hi Mike , I really enjoy watching your videos and have learned quite a bit so I have a question for you. I have a 98 evo and thinking about installing the Andrews 27 cam in it but I was told that I should swap my original cam gear to the new cam so it would match the pinion gear perfectly so in your professional opinion is this nessacary? Thanks!

[@pacificmike9501]

Probably not. If you look in your service manual, you can see how to measure that gear and how the cam gear and the pinion gear are "color coded." However, with todays quality control and measurements, you will rarely have a problem matching gears on an Evo motor. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm saying it doesn't happen very often. Most of them (certainly on Evos), you just install your new cam as per the cam manufacturer's instructions.

[@loddude5706]

'Cam shimery, cam shimery, cam cam cherim, somewhere in this plastic, there's a cam shim for Jim'. (Alas, we must now leave our friends to their musing, for not only have the lads & I have decided that this morning's mead is once again an excellent vintage, we also worry cameraman Mike may have 'shim-cramp' coming on. Y'all : )

[@pacificmike9501]

And we're all "Lucky as Lucky Can Be!" Yes! It is a real "Shim Dandy." Jim and his shim shall soon be on the road. And the Dude ain't Rude and He's never Crude. And his Poetry's Never Subdued.

[@cameramanmike2072]

❤️😁

[@glenkarden300]

Hi Mike, my name is Glen, I would like to start off by telling you your videos are really good I have seen them all. if you would help me out, I would really appreciate it. I had a lifter blow out on my 1990 evo and I got lucky it only damaged the cam so I got an Andrews cam #27 and fueling lifters my question to you is and I know you said you get asked this allot and I don't want to seem like a dumbass but can you please tell me if I need to do anything else other than lining up the timing marks thank you in advance

[@pacificmike9501]

We've shown it a bunch. The end play of the cam (specs came with the cam). The end play of the breather gear (in the service manual). Install new cam bearing (also in the service manual). These things are all in the videos we've shown. Go to Pacific Mike on KZbin, click on the word videos. They'll all come up.

[@glenkarden300]

Hi Mike , I really appreciate your reply I have already installed a new cam bearing, bushing & checked end play on cam and breather gear I don't have a problem with any of that I just want to make sure all I need to do is line up the timing marks and I can button it up thank you Glen... . @pacificmike9501

[@pacificmike9501]

Cool.

[@glenkarden300]

sorry to bother i just want to make sure some people say all you have to do is line up the marks some people say you have to have the crank at tdc ? one of your videos it shows you assembling a cam and you dont mention anything about the crank other than line up the marks i just want to make sure if you could pls let me know and i will stop bugging you thankyou Glen...

[@ronaldchmielewski]

Knows his shit

[@pacificmike9501]

I try.

[@davidcoyote8921]

Monkey see, monkey do...

[@pacificmike9501]

Okayfine

[@davidcoyote8921]

Thanx... the pros are disappearing so fast...

[@johnhackley1626]

First thing to go is your memory, I can't remember the second.

[@pacificmike9501]

Couldn't have been me or you. Must have been two other guys.

[@brandonjones152]

69!

[@pacificmike9501]

Right...