INSTALLING DOLBY ATMOS SPEAKERS! Atmos In Ceiling Speakers

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► CUSTOM ATMOS SPEAKER INSTALLATION
If you are considering installing Dolby Atmos speakers, knowing which types of Atmos speakers will work best for you and your space is key. This video will explain when to use upward firing atmos speakers vs going with a custom speaker installation and the things you need to know if you decide installing atmos speakers is the best option for your home theater and music listening room.
INTRO: 00:00
NOT ANOTHER DEDICATED HOME THEATER: 01:31
UPWARD FIRING DOLBY ATMOS SPEAKERS: 01:45
WHEN NOT TO USE UPWARD FIRING DOLBY ATMOS SPEAKERS: 02:52
INSTALLING IN-CEILING SPEAKERS: 03:40
MY NEW SPEAKER LAYOUT: 04:46
PROFESSIONAL SPEAKER INSTALLATION: 05:53
CHOOSING THE RIGHT IN-CEILING SPEAKER: 06:39
CEILING SPEAKER INSTALLATION COSTS: 08:53
KRISTI'S THOUGHTS ON CUSTOM INSTALLATION: 09:29
SIGN OFF: 17:35
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[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

@Douglas Blake oh you're not wrong about the tweaking. I suspect some of this process is about to get maddening, but I'm hopeful we'll get there in the end. Just started doing frequency sweeps in the room this week to see where the REAL problems are and how best to go about fixing them.

[@Joystick_Gamer]

I think you'll notice a difference in that big space! I'm glad to see Kadi was working proper quality control as the project supervisor!

[@willsullivan3]

@@Joystick_Gamer "K-K-K-Kadi, beautiful Kadi/You're the only, only one that I adore/When the M-Moon shines over the C-Cow shed/I'll be waiting at the K-Kitchen door!" Was taught at age three to sing that now-century-old song to our beautiful Norwegian Elkhound, Katy. She certainly supervised ME--excellent babysitter.

[@Alvenek]

As a European living in an appartment building i’m always amazed by the ease of running cables through dry-walls. I’ve spent a full day cutting a 50cm long and 30cm wide tunnel for TV cables into the steel reinforced concrete wall here. Had to rent some serious tools for that. :) great video as always Andrew!

[@jmchez]

Anywhere where the buildings are made of concrete, maybe because of Hurricanes or earthquake codes, should have spacers and drywall on the inside. Definitely makes it easier for cabling of any sort.

[@techsamurai11]

That’s where sound bars and white (painted) cables come into play:) Did you drill in the ceiling for Atmos? Cause I’d advise anyone to save their time and money before adding 2-4 channels in the ceiling unless you’re finishing a basement in the US where running cables is really easy. I use 2 rear in-ceiling speakers in my basement to avoid speaker overload and still get surround effects.

[@andrewforsythe7240]

Good for you, I never reached that point. But I have good sound. Good subject as always. Thank you both.

[@fotoram]

$2000 for 6 speakers installed? Wow! This would have cost upwards $5K here in California. This was a great video. Good for you for hiring some pros. Great for your own stress level and for your marriage. LOL! Looking forward to seeing the final results.

[@twinturbo111]

I have done this exact same setup before - it does not work well. Yes Atmos sounds good, but there will be MUCH LESS separation between the heights and the surrounds. They kind of blend into each other in a bad way - all of them start sounding like heights. If your heights are ceiling mounted, then your surrounds need to be lower - optimally at a handful of feet above ear level

[@mariod8405]

You need auro3d ,denon and Marantzs auromatic sounds amazing

[@jjlnguess7354]

I managed to fit and conceal 3 subs in our 15’x16’ living room. The Monolith V2 10”, an RSL Speedwoofer 10s MKII, and a Klipsch R 100SW. And I installed 4 Atmos along the beams on our ceiling (so not in ceiling speakers but wall mounted speakers. And they are custom painted the same color as the beams. The same with all other speakers in our 7.3.4 Atmos system. A lot of work and tuning and tweaking with REW, Audyssey MultEQ XT32 etc., but man it’s worth it. Thankfully my Dad taught me a ton in construction and electrical work due to him being a mechanical engineer. But 100% DIY is not everyone’s forte, and that’s perfectly fine. There’s something to be said for having a professional crew do things for you, saving you a ton of time. Love your channel and I have learned a lot from you and your wife. You both are awesome 😎. Thanks. 👍

[@stephenfrancisvoros382]

My system is 7.4.4, I installed all myself, I was lucky the ceiling joists lined up though, I'm a boilermaker, so I made speaker brackets for the 4 Atmos, used one coach bolt centred in each bracket to mount them to joists, it allows me to angle them at listing positions, also able to adjust tilt angle to listing positions, I used a laser pointer to align them, also for all other speakers. Master to the system is YAMAHA RX-A3070, employing 2 external amps that are KENWOOD krf-v5100d-s, using the 6ch-in of them, 1 kenwood power's my Atmos, the other kenwood power's my side's and rear's, leaving the grunt of yamaha to power fronts and centre, my speakers are Accusound Reference 8.6xd 200w 8ohm 90db, for centre, 4x Atmos, rear's and side's, my fronts are Polk Signature Series s60's, because they are a great match to my Accusound's, my subs are 2 Accusound Reference 8.6xd 200w class a/b amps, with 2 Emotiva Basx s12 300w class d amps, set up like so using monaural x2, 1 Emotiva to the front of room with Accusound daisy chained to it, the other Emotiva to rear of room with Accusound daisy chained to it, positioned using subwoofer crawl, I also made stands for rear's and side's, tripod like stands, the tops where the speakers mount are the same bracket as Atmos, so I can adjust them to suit too. With some home made room treatment. it's a modest system that sounds like a million dollar one.

[@frankpratt529]

When I built our basement family room, there was no intent to have any kind of speaker wiring. But I did put a coffered border around the perimeter of the ceiling that has removable panels 'just in case'. That labor intensive effort has more than paid off over the years, allowing everything from more wiring into the kitchen above to installing wiring for a 7.2.4 Atmos system to getting gas out to the deck for a grill, all without any ceiling cutting & patching. I have not tried the bouncy speakers, but have read from quite a number of sources that have compared them. I just can't see how a couple of up firing speakers at the front of the room can come close to duplicating the experience of having 4 properly positioned ceiling mounted speakers. I think it's well worth the effort to have them installed as close as possible to Dobly's Atmos install guide.

[@michaelchenault3774]

Andrew talk about perfect timing of this video. I’m planning to install four Revel C763s in my living room HT. Your video was helpful to make sure to spend enough time researching during the planning phase of this project. Keep up the great work with your channel.

[@p8triot01]

Thanks for the video. I'm in the EXACT same situation. 13' 6" ceilings. Luckily I ran 6 ceiling speaker wires prior to sheetrock. Can't wait to see the reveal! Congrats on your new house!

[@derekfaughn4982]

This is just Deja Vu...LOL. So, Andrew & Kristi, first, congrats on the new home. No matter where you are, I'll use the same mantra you use at the end of every video...no one has to like your home except for you. And, "home" is where you make it! I have spent the last 60 days redoing my lower level and it has been a major transformation from what I had before. New projector (100" TVs are still just too expensive), new AVR (which, as you know is a major pain to acquire), new ceiling mounted Atmos speakers (only 2), and moved everything from a dedicated "rack space" in another room to directly in front of me in a fine piece of audio cabinetry. Pulled the new ceiling wires myself and relocated some as well. And, despite knowing what was there (joist orientation, plumbing, etc), it was a pain and I had the same swiss cheese you had. And, yes, after all the patching is done, you wouldn't know there was swiss cheese. BUT, I also, repainted the room (including the ceiling). You just cannot match the old paint even with the same brand and color after it ages. (OK, I'm a bit OCD as well...LOL). Bottom line, I love the new 4K (had 1080p before) and Dolby Atmos. I think you will enjoy the ceiling mounted speakers over the upward firing. BTW, if you put a rack in that is located in some other room, how are you going to do your Dirac "correction"? Or, does it have a "remote" microphone option? Continued best wishes on the move and the new home!

[@scruffy8861]

Andrew-Kristi, as soon as you hear your in ceiling speakers, it will be an OMG moment. Sound from above will be more distinctive, more immersive and more pleasurable. Looking forward to the conversation after it's all dialed in.

[@jeromewhitmill733]

I'm so excited for you guys. Love the updates. I think the in ceiling setup is going to be best because your already in a big reflective room. Maybe with the proper DIRAC or whatever you use good sound will be achieved easier.

[@pilgrimpete]

Great video - looking forward to the rest of the reveal. I have a similar ceiling/joists I would like to put Atmos speakers in so this confirmed what I thought was necessary. Helpful of you to post the price too - that actually sounded very reasonable for the work involved and the speakers. I will live with my up-firing sets for now but this helps me keep planning. Thanks Andrew & Kristi.

[@luisarsuaga7637]

I'm really excited about the new stuff. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.

[@fourthplanet]

This was helpful. My old 50s rancher has ceilings that slope with the roofline much like yours. Upward firing atmos speakers didn't seem like they would work. After watching this video, I am inspired to try the in ceiling speakers.

[@khrispeter85]

Just had my HT prewired during the build as well as living room and upstairs room as well. One thing, my av guys also convinced me to get data ports at each location as well, don’t forget the data port!

[@GSP-76]

I've seen the square cutouts get done before in a friend's basement home theater...but it's really not that bad and they get everything plugged back up pretty quickly. You guys are gonna love the new setup for years to come.

[@leatherelectric]

Great video. This hits my current home theater evaluation on the nose. I've come to love the sound and feel of a wired system. I've mounted my Sony bookshelves on the wall, a little contrarian but it keeps speaker gear off the floor. The receiver is installed BEHIND the wall my 75" TV is mounted on. My older home with plaster walls is some kind of awful to cut and patch. I hate hate hate to compromise, but I'm going with Atmos speakers on my Bookshelf speakers. Any who there's no doubt the setup you've created will make y'all happy for a decade.

[@Cyclone311]

I appreciate knowing your limits in DIY. Some people think they can do everything single thing on their own, but sometimes it's best to augment DIY with professionals. I have come across that recently myself. Was doing some remodeling in the basement, and was battling doing it all myself or bring professionals in. Glad I brought in the pros I didn't feel fully comfortable with, because they did some I didn't even think about that worked out better.

[@jarms40]

I like directed sound. I self-installed a pair of in-ceiling Paradigms in a ceiling box that I knew well and lacked joists. Relatively (they're never absolutely) easy install and much crisper sound.

[@jimhamlin6551]

If you are putting speakers in ceiling for Atmos ...after room correction ...you will have to up the levels of the speakers ..to get the most of the effects ...because there is not a lot there and when there is something there you want to hear it.

[@westcoast708]

Great points with the paint match and yes sometimes as much as we like saving money doing things ourselves we have to know when too surrender to the pros thx you guys can't wait to see the final results ...

[@foxymojo]

Wow, I cannot tell you how great your channel has been during this year of getting more into home theater. Irony being that I come from an indie rock band that spends a lot of time in the studio but when it came to theater up until recently, I was a complete imbecile. My wife & I are currently in the middle of having our first home built and while we were initially just going to go with the Sony HT-A9 to pair with our Sony a90J 83” for our open living room which is where we will do our daily entertainment, I was sucked into the grandeur (and luckily my wife as well) of the test theater we listened to during a complimentary pre wire meeting. Since then I got the itch, and while I swore I never wanted to deal with the hassle of a full system, here we are, I was able to get an AMAZING bargain for a 5.2 Klipsch system, which we are now going to pair with the Prewired 4 height channels we’re getting from the AV company our builder works with. This channel really helped us see that the “incentive” package they were offering us for a rinky dink system fit for a much smaller or beginners set up. Luckily the AV company we’re working with us and loves that we’re coming into this with a bit more education than the average customer, so just wanted to say thank you for making things to simple, this channel is a god send! Our set up will be 5.2.4: Yamaha RX-A9A 2 - Klipsch R28f 1 - Klipsch RP-450C 2 - Klipsch RP-150M (or maybe some more ceiling heights, as your idea described in this video for the rear surrounds) 2 - Klipsch DS-160CDT front heights 2 - Klipsch DS-160C rear heights 2 - SVS PB-2000 subs And eventually a BDI cabinet for it all, and a 3 channel Emotiva XPA amp You and your wife are great team, keep it up, thanks again from the London Family in El Paso, TX, and hey, our first professional major recorded album comes out later this year and now that you’ve helped us create an amazing space for a listening party, you guys are welcome down to our side of Texas anytime!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thank you so much! We appreciate you watching.

[@cooluser23]

Awesome!! I was hoping for more Atmos content and got it. I love how you deliver!!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

We try to give you all what you want. Thanks for watching!

[@cchandonait]

So I'm pretty new to Atmos and I decided to mount Paradigm Premier 200B up high as my height speakers. My personal choice listening to music is either Atmos or MultiChannel Stereo. I love the aesthetics of your new setup and I love the current sound that I have. I wish it was easy for me to experiment with both and see what setup I like overall better. Thanks for the video. This part of the process interests me greatly.

[@rossharper1983]

Only couple months ago I added two Monitor Audio C265-T2's into my ceiling for Atmos. Best decision I made in a long time for my home cinema. Took me just over an hour start to finish to get both mounted.

[@dwayneharris1438]

Hi, I seen this video before, now when I move into my new home and viewed my area for My HT. I knew I needed the speaker wires, atmos speakers in the ceiling. I knew that this was beyond my scope. So I hired a custom design team. I must say even though I knew some of the lay of land the loft area and the a/c duct was a different what I had imaged. This video that I view earlier ring true. I glad I hire a custom team do this job. Thanks for your views. Tomorrow will be the last day of the install.

[@victor-erwin]

Thanks so much for this video. I've been looking for a setup EXACTLY like this.

[@Cuzin_Ken]

Loved this video. After months (actually years) of rebuilding my house and untold hours and hours of research of ceiling mount speakers I finally landed on my set up. My home has 9-foot ceilings, but also an open floorplan concept and not a lot of linear feet from screen to viewing position. The open concept doesn't allow for rear or sidewall surrounds so in the ceiling they are going. This means that I'm unfortunately not getting ATMOS. I will have a 5.1 setup with the surrounds going in the ceiling. I finally landed on Monitor Audio CP-CT380IDC for the ceiling surrounds, and they will match with the Silver 5007G and a Silver C350 Center Channel. Because I want those same surrounds to also be able to play music from my whole house audio system when not being used for surround duty, I'm connecting the speaker leads to each speaker via either a Russound AB-3.2 Automatic Speaker Selector or an MCM Custom Audio Auto A/B Switch so they can be powered by different amplifier feeds. One set of speakers with two different configurations and power sources. For a sub I plan on grabbing an SVS PC-4000. Cheers and keep up the great work. Enjoy your new home!

[@daraghmorrissey]

Great video, it’s great that you are doing this now (as you move in) . After you move in, it can become messier and more difficult to do this. Also appreciate you got some help and the money was well worth it.

[@SharetheShred]

Thanks for the great video. I installed my own Atmos speakers during the summer early morning during the summer last August/ September and survived. Welcome to Arizona.

[@jamband4230]

Paint "takes" to different surfaces differently. So you might not get an exact match using the paint on drywall and metal grills. It'll get close but never exactly the same. And the paint will wear differently over time. Also I know your wife is an audiophile but it's still interesting to get this dynamic of seeing a couple making decisions that couples generally have to make when buying audio equipment. I don't know any other reviewer that has the ability find out what the "waf" is. They can make guesses. But they don't have their wife in the video actually giving us men that perspective. I really like that. Good luck with the new home I can't wait to hear your opinion on up-firing Atmos vs in-celling!

[@t8500shx]

Can’t wait to see the finished room. Looking forward watching more equipment reviews too. When I built my dedicated room my self, I ran all the low voltage wiring either in-wall or in the ceiling. Definitely not the easiest thing to do. I made sure all the attic wiring was done NOT during the Arizona summer!

[@tywoodruff8578]

Thank you for this video! Wish I could have watched the whole thing yesterday while y’all were live. We are nearing completion of a 25’x35’ room addition on our house. Contractor had an A/V guy run low voltage wiring for four in-ceiling and two in-wall surround speakers, and I’m now in the process of deciding what speakers to install and who to do the work. His quote is WAY a higher than what your install cost, so I’ll be seeking out additional quotes. The info surrounding which speakers you chose and why was a HUGE help. I’m not sure what I’ll land on for front and center speakers, so definitely want to go with something that will complement as wide a range as possible. Thank you again, and congratulations again on the home and no more DST!

[@joshmcgowan4]

Wow only $2000 that’s so good. It would cost $2000 here just to have the drywall patched up. Definitely a great investment, really looking forward to seeing the rest of the videos on the new home.

[@mattwatson3721]

I like how you designed for flexibility in how many channels you chose to use in the space. 4 atmos speakers would probably be too much in my space, but I have been considering replacing my surrounds with in ceiling speakers. I have plenty of walk in attic space around my room and set up my atmos speakers, and I have helped a buddy set up his room with in ceiling surrounds. I think good room correction really helps with these types of surrounds. Right now my surrounds are mounted on a wall in a near ideal location, but "we" have other ideas for how to use some of that wall space. I started this hobby as 20 years ago from the home theater side, and over time have move more and more into the musical side. My listening is still probably 70-30 spit towards movies, video games and TV, but am really enjoying the musical experience more and more. I loved your video on receivers for 2 channel listening because that is what I have been doing for a long time now, and for me it has worked and was a necessity as I did not have the space nor money for separate listening spaces or equipment. Keep up the great work, I am looking forward to more of what you do with your listening space.

[@afizzoo7086]

That talk about having "worst-case mindset" is so accurate. I just got my 1st home and I wanted to run cat5e and do major rewiring across the house. I was shocked with how the house looked when contractors and electrician started their work. Also having full concrete walls didn't help LOL But it DOES get better towards the end :)

[@GiuseppeRedscarf]

I use a pair of Polk OWM3 speakers for front heights in my 5.2.2 Atmos setup & they work great. Being able to mount them in corners is a big plus!

[@j.j.h.atemycereal]

Great video! I can’t wait to see the finished product.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

You and me both!

[@tc6935]

I just installed 4 klipsch cdt-5800- c2 ceiling speakers myself and I just got klipsch heritage theater bar 3 days ago after your review. I also installed a/v rack in my closet with all my equipment. My house was a mess for weeks because I did it my self but I always tell my wife it will be worth it in the end.

[@KristiWright]

That bar is SO good!

[@tc6935]

@@KristiWright I really haven't played with it yet because I'm still wrapping up other house projects I'm doing but I've been eying this soundbar for over a year but I could not find one review about this soundbar. So I was so excited when I saw your review a couple weeks ago. I'm so excited for your new house and all the fun projects you will do.

[@justinphillips991]

I added 4 ceiling speakers to our new house as well. I initially intended to use 2 for atmos and 2 for rear but the surround sound never sounded right. It wasn't until I bit the bullet and added two bookshelf speakers at head level for the rear channel that the atmos surround sound came alive. Even with aim-able ceiling speakers I couldn't move them enough to trick my ear into hearing "rear" sound from ceiling speakers.

[@chairthrower]

The comment about not liking rear surround speakers on stands got me thinking about my room. My speakers are all up high on walls--that was how I had the room wired when it was renovated, and there's a door on the left side of the room where the front left channel is, so the only mounting location is above the door. (the speakers are all Klipsch Quintet speakers from about 20 years ago and I like them a lot.) Also in the center of the front of the room is the back of the fireplace from the living room which is brick protruding about 2 feet into the family room, which is where the center channel is mounted. A few weeks ago I got some Sony Atmos upfiring speakers and mounted them on either side of the center channel (which is above the TV). I listened to the one Atmos disc I have (Steven Wilson's "The Future Bites") and I could definitely hear the Atmos content, as well as from shows on streaming that use it. I just feel bad sometimes because I keep hearing you're supposed to have speakers at ear height. (They do angle down to point to the main listening location). It sounds good to me so I guess by the mantra of this channel that's all that matters, and there's really no other way to do it here so I'll be okay.

[@djlee688]

Nice, you are going love having speakers in the ceiling. Assuming you were able to position them properly and aimed towards the seating area, the difference will be drastic from "bouncy house" speakers. Enjoy and congrats on the new beautiful home. Love your dog 🐕.

[@mcsnoopster]

Depends on the content. I installed downward firing Atmos a few years ago. I love the added experience it gives in many movies. That being said, I think of all the speakers the Atmos speakers add the least. If I absolutely had to live without them I could, but I do enjoy what they add.

[@danilolorenzetti712]

Installing anything in ceiling can be tricky, I did all the lighting in my friend apartment and I had the same problem, I couldn't pass through the cables 'cause the barriers installed by the drywall guys. I know exactly how big the problem can be. But, after all, it's a fulfilling experience seeing all put together. It's worth it, it's a one time problem and a lifetime satisfaction.

[@geohof]

Awesome video guys. My wife and I went through the same situation and I have the same layout of the 6 in ceiling speakers. Our front and back wall are shared with neighbors. In ceiling speakers were the only option. I aimed the front tweeters to my seating, the middle speakers straight down and the rears at the back wall to reflect to my back wall to give a sense the rears are behind me. Good luck.👍🍀

[@geohof]

The depth perception is more believable as rears. Makes the room feel more spacious.

[@geohof]

My wife was tired of back speakers and all the holes and patch work I have done over the years. In this newer house, she was not having it. I like the fact that no one notices until after They’ve heard them.

[@jameslester6785]

I installed a similar system in my home using Yahmaha speakers. My challenge was my ceiling has a peaked roof right down the middle from front to back. I'm a woodworker so I made boxes out of cherry which match the tone of the knotty pine ceiling and are wedge shaped to allowed the speakers to fire straight downward. I do have attic access for wires. The project did take a week but the results were worth the time. Good times!

[@movie_av_impulse]

I am truly happy for you guy's I myself can't wait for new reviews once your all settled in the new home! My wife and I feel your pain when we moved from Massachusetts to North carolina it took 14 and a half hours of driving on 3 hours of sleep! Moving our stuff 4 cats and a Giant 25 pound rabbit! It was stressful but we're happy we did it! Once we find our permanent home, since we're selling our home in about 4 years! I will be doing all this custom install to my theater room! Again congratulations to the both of you and your beautiful husky

[@JBarAUS]

Love this video! So glad you're sharing this info. Interested to know, how do you find ceiling mounted surrounds as opposed to floor or wall mounted surrounds? Do you still get the same effect?

[@leetingler619]

I enjoyed your presentation. I used to do home theater installation. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said.

[@leetingler619]

I was thinking about your ceiling speakers. You can and l have Use a dry brush technique and dab color to match your ceiling speakers to the ceiling. Take a little paint and put on the brush dabit off till almost dry and then dab on the spk grill and the plastic surround. You will find it will match pretty nicely. Remember nothing is perfect but this should show fine craftsmanship. Enjoy!

[@gammaknife9933]

Hi Andrew, great video as always. I am also thinking about using ceiling speakers. 2 questions for you. 1). You picked Klipsch CDT-3800 instead of CDT-5800, is there a reason for that other than price? 2). Is it also ok to use ceiling speakers for side surround in addition to ceiling rear surround? I just got Pioneer LX505, and plan to do 7.2.4 with 4 atmos speakers, 2 side surround speakers and 2 rear surround speakers all using ceiling speakers (maybe Klipsch 5800 and 5650 combination).

[@Renan_Cas]

Andrew, nice to keep us updated as to how someone of your caliber would tackle these types of projects. I could imagine the final product might as well be officially dubbed "the Andrew Robinson Edition". U should prolly get a trademark on that! :) keep us posted!

[@mauriciosanchez9237]

Ceiling speakers are quite satisfying, sound pressure coming directly from above gives better quality than defused upward firing. My first system was an Onkyo up-firing Dolby Atmos Enabled speaker, also was the first home system they sold. I loved it until I moved and Atmos effect was gone. I got a pair of separate Dolby Atmos Speakers, tried the three configurations, up-firing, top front and last (and hardest to mount) down-firing. It’s glorious! I realized how much of the frequency I was missing, it’s easier to calibrate due to proper distance and dB level. Every Atmos Mix in movies comes to life, and you should try Music in Atmos; depending on the recording and mastering. Apple Music is the most comfortable option for this to me. Lately I test the system with The Weekend’s SACRIFICE, FINAL ASCENT from No Time to Die’s score from Hans Zimmer. I MUST clarify something, this Atmos quest made me upgrade my whole setup. So you proceed with caution my friends.

[@dylanledbetter2674]

I do these kinds of custom installs for home theater and I wish everyone would watch this video before starting their custom install

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

So glad you think it would be helpful!

[@michaellatta]

This was very helpful. Thank you.

[@KiterSuperfly]

In reality, many don’t have the floor space (or desire) for a dedicated theatre. The idea of a stealth Atmos install in my main living/listening/watching area is ideal. In wall, in ceiling with nice left/right/center and you are good to go!

[@bbmousedoowop]

I have the Klipsch upfiring Dolby Atmos speakers atop a pair of Polk M70s. (Audiophiles, stop gagging). They fit perfectly and sound great. The room has a 12 foot ceiling and I did have to adjust the volume up on the Klipschs, but other then that there have been no issues. Sources differ of course, but I have found the height effects to fall roughly in front of my seating position, sometimes mixed with the rear speakers which are on adjustable wall brackets. The Atmos effects on the Dune 4kHDR disk are absolutly incredible and all encompassing, a good test for your system. Also, the series Servant on Apple TV+ has Atmos effects that are downright creepy, the best I have heard on any streaming platform.

[@AlessandroBertolucci]

Been there, I'm no fan of wired rear surrounds. When we remodeled the basement we considered in ceiling speakers but opted out in favour of an initial 3.1 setup with a plan of moving to a Sonos wireless setup later. However we decided to stick with 3.1 as we saw no real need / benefit in going Sonos.

[@smargo77]

what i really liked about your channel was your whole standard of keeping things simple and not expensive and the great sound you can get. now your creeping up to fall off the wagon of being a " recovering audiophile" - the room treatments and the custom install - i mean home theater can get get way up there in price as well if you let it. please try and keep things simple - and continue to push great sound from inexpensive components and very few room treatments - thats what so attractive to me

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I think you're going to be surprised by just how creative and not elitist we're going to be with this new room, though I'm glad I called the pros for this portion as I wouldn't have been able to do it myself.

[@TheJohnnyNeat]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews I have been so lucky to have found your channel when I did. From the start of my first steps into “audiophile” territory, I have taken your expertise to build my setup with awesome results. Lintons are kicking ass and the Pioneer 305 is going to power it all. So excited to see you both enter into the same home journey I am in. Excited to learn more. This video was great and I looking forward to more. Side note: Wharfedale Diamond 12.C is actually a good match for Lintons in a HT setup (currently 3.1 minus Sub).

[@shegocrazy]

I've got Niles in ceiling speakers and painted the grilles just using a fine brush and dabbing rather than brushing. That way the grille holes weren't compromised.

[@bubblehead5394]

Just did my 4 atmos in-ceiling speakers and it was a real pita. I only have 9' cielings. If I would have had a sloped tall ceiling like you I would have hired it out also.

[@adamlink7561]

Well if Collin is right and you are anywhere near Phoenix, I am very jealous. Spring training is coming!!!! We were there a few years back (go Royals) so fun! Anyway great video, don’t feel bad about the home theater thing this is not a dark cave 40 feet underground, it looks like you have lots of natural light and you should have great sound in the space as well.

[@nickelbut10]

I was lucky enough to have everything we needed on two floors and had a 1800sq ft open unfinished basement i built a dedicated 2.2ch music room and put an atmos/projector setup in another section of the basement. Haha. Love your speaker selection. I did all over head ceiling for surround and atmos and towers and matching bookshelf for center (i hate center channel speakers). I will say, you will notice a huge difference having over head atmos speakers vs those front reflection units. Great decision.

[@davidwilson8634]

I really appreciate how much attention y’all pay to aesthetics. Having a nice clean livable space takes priority over ultimate audio fidelity for my wife and I.

[@axelwulff2303]

I had six in-ceiling speakers and wiring for back speakers installed when we moved into our house four years ago. Same deal you experienced; lots of holes. Great! Ready for some 7.4.1 Atmos nirvana. Now the embarrassing part. I haven't gotten an 11-channel receiver because I realized the built-in shelf it needs to sit on (where the speaker cables terminate...) does not have sufficient depth to support it. 🙄 Looking for your upcoming review of super-shallow 11-channel receivers. 😁

[@Mayday73]

Hi Andrew. Really enjoyed the video! I was wondering if there were special considerations with the ceiling fans and them affecting the Atmos sound? Thank you for your thoughts.

[@wmoore29]

Hi; I like you we have had some sort of variations of surround set-up's over the last 10 years, but I was lucky enough to have a barn 35x60 on the properity we bought a couple years ago and I have built a dedicated music/theater room 35x24. I went with in wall/ceiling by RBH 8" woofers & dual adjustable tweeters, I also boxed them in and used sound deading and Rockwool insulation. The front speakers are RevelF228 Be's LCR and SVS subs. All I can say is it blew me away from the old set-ups' and yes I did have the Revels for several of those iterations. When you get finished if you want to hear what your system can do put on the 4K atmos version of Waterworld , sit back and enjoy.

[@jc4626]

Andrew congrats on your new home and ceiling speaker install. I have to opposite problem my ceiling in my basement is 7' - 2". My drop ceiling had 4 Monoprice Alpha angled 15 degrees at my seating area. ($200 for 4 you cannot really go wrong) They worked surprising well and were fairly shallow so I could practically fit them anywhere in the ceiling. I think the spec's say they are a soft dome tweeter - but the looked metal to me. So anyways I recently just bought Elac debut in-ceiling - Andrew Jones had a hand in the design apparently. Installed these over this weekend and the magnets on the back of the Elac's were huge and unfortunately I had to move the install position of them slightly in the front Atmos, these do have a 30 degree angle so that helps, anyways got them in re-ran Dirac and they match my existing speakers better, more accurate placement of front to rear panning, Do I hear $1000 difference? No ---- again the law of diminishing returns. Looking forward to your new videos in your new place and Kristy's input as well. Thank you for all your video's always entertaining and informative.

[@themarklar8759]

QOTD: I bet you will notice a difference with the in ceilings (for the better). Also....I love your new space, because it's a really nice size for music and HT, 25x19.6 with 14 foot ceilings? Acoustically speaking...it would seem to me that is going to allow for some amazing soundstage in that space and really permit some of the high end stuff you all review to really sing. Congrats on this new space, I'm looking forward to seeing what you all do with it!

[@giovannivanhaaren9885]

Awesome, exactly what I'm interested in. Can you make a vid showing how it looks now and with what center speakers etc? Thanks for this video!

[@SeanVedell]

My dream installation!! Probably a good thing you did all that before you started unpacking, but I can see how stressful that must have been. Another brand offering rear speakers with built-in upward firing Atmos speakers is Pioneer. The Pioneer SP-BS22A-LR Andrew Jones Designed Dolby Atmos Bookshelf Speaker has served me well in my 5.1.4 system.

[@aplleyva]

Ahh, timely video , I'm looking to have in ceiling Atmos speakers installed. Thx

[@JM-xe1ts]

Great idea to go with more speakers so you can change your pattern as needed! You will LOVE the difference this makes to your Atmos experience. Curious to know why you chose not to(?) add back-surround speakers in-wall? Perhaps that part will be mentioned in a future episode. We went from front/height to rear l/r and back surround in-walls and just two mid-height “Atmos” in ceiling and it works really well for multiple movie formats. Totally changed our experience for the better.

[@raphaelmeillat8527]

Hi there! Have you kept your front height speakers? Trying to decide how to go atmos... Which ones make greater impact at first, etc. Can't do in-wall so they need to stick out. Curious to hear more about your experience. Also, what's mid-height exactly? Are the speakers aimed at the listening area or not necessarily... Cheers!

[@dennisbohner6876]

Use omni-directional speakers. It may not have the 'focus' of directed speakers but it has the advantage of being an easy install and a VERY large expansive sound.

[@Luis-ob4xq]

Kristy and Andrew, Thank you for doing your detailed analysis and recommendations on speakers and equipment ! You always go back and forward with your own taste and preferences, bringing your honest opinion to your watchers ! I need your help !!! Due to space limitations, I must use in-ceiling speakers and only the in-whal speajer for the center channel. My room size is about 20 x 25 feet... with 14' high ceilings and lots of top to bottom windows... I don't have the knowledge to read graphs on in-ceiling speakers performances... I've been researching, reading, listening to different audiopholics for 2 years, and have not come up with the ideal option for me. I enjoy music very much and I'd like to include surround for home movies. Would you please help me ? Thank you ! Luis

[@shemsureshot]

I’ve used ceiling speakers in the past and they are great for atmos and are much more convincing than upward firing speakers, I think you will be very happy with them! Right now I’m using Klipsch RP-500sa atmos speakers, wall mounted. They each only require one nail to hang on the wall so are great for easy installation and minimal holes in your wall. How come you went for in ceiling over wall mounted?

[@mikemmikem2758]

Since the usual default ceiling paint, is called ceiling white, it amazes me that in ceiling speakers are not white from the factory. I have 4 white SVS Elevation speakers and they look fantastic.

[@NosEL34]

Very happy for the both of you. I as well don't prefer the look of surrounds on stands or even hanging on the wall...Im not even using rears at the moment because of that reason. Good luck with the rest of your projects

[@xmj6830]

Could you also give the metric value when giving distance? Most of the world is using the metric system...thanks in advance

[@kwinders]

In general, you should be able to paint the speaker grilles. Recommended to paint thin and let dry so the holes don't clog.

[@mack4477]

Congrats on the new home. Just signed papers ourselves. Also doing a living room setup, 5.2.4 with in ceilings. Looking forward to it vs the two wall mounted heights I currently use

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Congrats on your new home!

[@mack4477]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thank you sir

[@gregoryfrassetti1276]

Downward firing tilted ceiling speakers is probably what you need. And I would also recommend the smaller 3 or 4 inch size versus bigger 6.5inch. And yeah good call on the bigger gauge wire run, 10-12 gauge is the way to go depending on how long the run will be. Good luck overall in the new home. Question - I recall you mentioning Cheapaudioman Randy helping you in some way or another. Cool that you guys intermingle.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Randy is a friend and he and his family were very helpful and supportive while Kristi and I searched for a new home. I have to be honest, it can be very lonely being a content creator, not to mention very demanding and unfortunately it's a lifestyle not a lot of people can relate to. It's important to have at least ONE person who can relate when the times get tough and Randy has become that friend to Kristi and I.

[@tron1974]

Thanks for documenting the work. So, I thought rear speakers needed to be at ear level to the sides. I would be curious how they sound overhead. Years ago when we bought our house I purchased some Canton Ergo 601 speakers, which are shallow depth on wall slightly above ear height. They actually sound really good but in wall would have looked way better.

[@flappospammo]

I got some monitor audio ones you stick on top of the speakers , look good and sound great

[@whitecrowuk575]

KEF Ci200RR-THX atmos ceiling and KEF Ci3160RL-THX for in wall surrounds combined with KEF fronts (R3 or R11 in case of your massive room) and there isn’t any better setup I’ve heard so far. Btw in wall surrounds you can put some acoustically transparent art over them if you don’t like seeing them

[@Bmiguelpaiva]

I’m a fairly new subscriber, i have lots of records from my father, and i plan to buy a vintage, or soo, receiver, and i’m loving your vídeos.....it was a very good suprise to know that your speakers and the install “only” costed 2000$.

[@KristiWright]

Welcome to the channel!

[@JunaidBanatwala]

Andrew, did you ever review the Klipsch DS-160CDT speakers after the install. I like how little space they need in the ceiling. Will work for an apartment dweller like me.

[@jked7463]

Benjamin moore can load any color in a spray can. A good painter can blend the new color into the old. As an architect, the only way to get it to match is to paint the whole ceiling.

[@KristiWright]

That's probably what we will do at some point because the patch work look of the ceiling bugs me. I'm sure I'm being overly critical and some may not notice the shade differences.

[@jked7463]

@@KristiWright to blend paint, start with a roller that is not heavily filled. Start from the repaired spot and roll away from center on a circular pattern. Short strokes at first, then slowly spread the paint out so that it gets thinner as you go out. Eventually the roller will be mostly dry. Keep rolling away from the door with the dry roller. The new paint will thin out and have partial coverage blending with the original paint. But with that many spots, painting the whole ceiling might be easier. If you have one spot by itself, the blend technique my be helpful.

[@maxpower78-15]

Warming up indeed. Coffee in hand. Waiting to feel your pain. This is one of those ones i think all audio minded people can identify with. You have the stuff. Good stuff. Now you need to organize the stuff. Always nerve racking.

[@fonkenful]

Yeah, as Randy at Cheapaudioman would say, “ grab a coffee and let’s go…”. I wonder though if sometimes folks, just sometimes, the brownish beverage in that opaque mug might be a single malt or small batch distilled bourbon, etc. As for the sponsored product, how about Kristi’s viewpoint. 😉

[@Mikipedia]

An upward firing speaker can do a great job at approximating a downward firing speaker, but it will always loose to the real thing if they are of comparable quality. BTW, did you not put back boxes in because of all the firebreaks? and was the insulations enough? Just asking as the ceiling speakers didn't look closed back and big differences in what is basically each back box can make them sound all more than a little bit different. It looks like everyone involved did a good job of it though, very clean!👍

[@landonboe2676]

Hi Andrew, love the videos! I have a question I currently have the itch to integrate some kind of Atmos setup in my current 5.1 setup. My rears on my setup are in ceiling just behind my listening position currently. I see you have gone that route for your rears as well. How are you liking that? Vs having listening level rears. I’m trying to decide whether to replace my rears at listening level or just add some upward firing Atmos speakers to my front speakers for a 5.1.2 (vs 5.1.4 by adding additional rears). I also hate the look of rear speakers on stands.

[@davel4449]

Mr Robinson, because of your incredible review I bought an Onkyo Rz50.. I live in appartement..YES I KNOW it's a lot for an apartment... Because I can't install in ceiling speakers for Atmos height.. I NEED a video to suggest REAL GOOD less then 500$ Atmos height upward firing speakers and NEED a proper video to compare the best place to put them to get best results (I KNOW in ceiling speakers are best bit for the one who cannot...) WHERE we place them ?! How to set properly ?! What model is good ?!

[@ggpack8190]

So what size wire should we be using for in ceiling speakers?

[@astrovewlix5929]

The CDT-2800-C II’s you linked are not the same as the DS-160CDTs you installed. The former have horn tweeters while the latter have silk domes. Where did you get the DS-160CDT?

[@arasandthevolodkas]

I did both up firing (Atlantic technologies) switched to KEF Ci2000rr ... Waaaay better experience with in ceiling. The bounce only gives you the high frequencies in a very washed out non articulate sort of sound. With in ceilings you will hear more mid and low range frequencies, it's just what you expect to hear. I will never go bounce again

[@edwinruizmusic]

Love the channel congratulation very good information. Thinking about the position of the rear surround on the ceiling. Let us know if is better. Something I will like to try on my set up. Again congratulation.

[@darkroom8317]

QOTD response: My favorite AV Receiver is a Marantz. It offers tyme alignment which will help you hear a big difference in your atmos ceiling speakers. In fact I am sure any AC receiver with tyme alignment built in will help you feel a big difference. The Marantz can also act as a preamp in your 2.2 channel system as well. Good luck!

[@brucemibus9523]

Had to plan my listening room from scratch, running concealed cables through the ceiling and wall space, and a steel duct channel from rear to front, power and signal in separate ducts. Could have run more but have enough to run wide and extra centre at the front. When it was all sealed up was when the nerves started! Was there enough, was it to the right places, time to stick head in sand. All up works ok, phew!😏😏

[@GayleGrantDocGrant]

How are you double duty-ing the 7 channel speakers vs atmos speakers..did you use a splitter or something?